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  1. Sep 2013
    1. in a word, I hold that there does not exist an art of the kind which can implant sobriety and justice in depraved natures. Nevertheless, I do think that the study of political discourse can help more than any other thing to stimulate and form such qualities of character

      Conclusion: Rhetoric (experience or natural talent) cannot be taught but knowledge can.

    2. But it cannot fully fashion men who are without natural aptitude into good debaters or writers, although it is capable of leading them on to self-improvement and to a greater degree of intelligence on many subjects

      Is Isocrates saying that rhetoricians have to be rhetoricians by nature, thus teaching rhetoric does not make people rhetoricians?