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  1. Aug 2023
    1. Although the vloggers in my study acknowledged that greater visibility on their part could make their channels more popular, they prefer not to show themselves immediately, or at least until they have reached a certain number of followers to bolster self-confidence. In their view, their invisibility in videos does not negate their agency since they can convey their sociocultural values through their online sharing.

      These women have taken their everyday activities (cooking) and made it into a living, which I find wonderful.

    2. Therefore, when a man “keyboard warrior”—to use her term—accused Hacer of being “arrogant” on account of her assertive answers, adding that Allah does not approve of such behavior, she responded with a flower emoji and wrote that she had never been an arrogant person in her life.

      Being proud of herself is considered arrogant? Strange.

    3. After YouTube, when I passed 100 thousand subscribers, I learnt not to wait for approval from anyone. I’m already successful, and I’m doing it well. I got more self-confidence. I’m not passive towards people anymore, not the person who is constantly waiting for approval, but the person who has already received approval. Whether you like it or not, I’m quite in this mood, no lie.

      Fame doesn't always equate to success or happiness- but I find it great these women are able to feel more comfortable with themselves and proud of all the hard work they accomplished.

    4. Through the videos, their age, marital status, beliefs, and lifestyles are subject to be interpreted. In Figure 6, for example, Merve holds a tray: in addition to her young-sounding voice, her visible bracelet might lead the audience to an interpretation that she is young.

      Another great example of how meticulous this process is- and how the smallest of things could end up becoming a very big problem for these women.

    5. After posting the video of the healing soup, she was contacted by one of her followers who was an elderly religious woman. Since she felt a connection to Nergis, the woman wanted to visit and in fact stayed at Nergis’ home for two days.

      I like to see how these women were able to get connected with other women simply through a video.

    6. r example, Nergis has been criticized in the past for wearing long sleeves instead of showing her forearms on the basis that her clothing is likely to come into contact with the food. Although Mualla, wearing a shalwar and “başörtüsü,” rolls up her sleeves while cooking in a village garden—illustrated in Figure 5, some of the comments on her vlogs refer to her as a “peasant” for her alleged lack of hygiene.

      It seems as though a lot of these negative commenters won't be satisfied with either of these options- women showing their forearms are disrespectful but those who roll up their sleeves are considered "peasants"

    7. However, she did not hesitate to share a photo of her mother online (Figure 4) as norms for covering in Islamic understanding are less strict for elder women (Sevinc, 2021).

      Very interesting that older women do not have to comply as much to the societal "norms" whereas younger women need to follow these rules strictly.

    8. Wearing a hijab, she speaks in the Istanbul dialect with a flat and neutral tone of voice because she ascribes to the Islamic belief that a woman’s voice can be seductive to men

      I didn't know women had to change the cadence and sound of their voice in order to not attract men- it seems that they are forbidden to do many basic things which is really unfortunate.

    9. or example, when Tenzile had first begun vlogging some 6 years prior to the interview, she did not even talk in her videos and only showed her hands alongside text. For her, this discretion was meant as an embodiment of her inner disposition of modesty and piety (Mahmood, 2005, pp. 157–161). At that time, Tenzile felt that talking or showing herself online was illicit (haram) and could cause “fitne,” that is, “disturbance”

      I was wondering how the women maintained an invisible online presence and this answered my question. How did she make the decision to finally reveal herself, was it because she got more subscribers and viewers demanded more content of her as well?

    10. Even though she is invisible in her videos, Nazan still felt she needed to pay close attention to her behavior since she is single and has children who might be affected by any behaviors deemed inappropriate on her part.

      I think having an online presence while also having children is a very big sacrifice, because anyone online could find out information about you and your family.

    11. uch neighborhood gossip greatly exacerbates the difficulties of being a single mother in Turkey.

      My grandmother was a single mother during the 70's, which was extremely difficult for her due to the stereotypes and shame associated with it. Although I can't relate to this personally- I know many people that can.

    12. All of the women vloggers I interviewed described having had apprehensions about producing online videos. These reservations stemmed both from their sociocultural environment and their lack of confidence regarding their tech skills. Although they had social media accounts before taking up their YouTube activities, they did not tend to use these accounts to share their lives because they were concerned about their privacy. For this reason, they all worked hard to control their (in)visibility on the Internet.

      Such a difficult thing to accomplish- trying to maintain invisibility towards the general public while simultaneously trying to get as many views as possible to get an income.

    13. Their child-rearing and household chores were additional reasons they gave for seeking home-based work since they could not easily leave their homes for many hours. Vlogging on YouTube thus served as a way for them to generate income by drawing on resources that go unvalued in their daily lives, but which have attained new value in virtual settings.

      I love how these women also used cooking and making youtube videos as an outlet of creativity and way to keep themselves entertained during the day.

    14. . For instance, Nazan had developed significant health problems including herniation and depression due to her combined work routine in the service sector and on YouTube after her problematic divorce and the lack of support for her children from her ex-husband:

      Again- another example of how much these women have to risk just to cook a simple cooking video. Their mental and physical health is at risk.

    15. Only Mualla had a formal cooking qualification. While my participants expressed that, for the most part, they did not receive any support from their relatives or community members until beginning to generate an income, they opened their YouTube accounts either after receiving positive comments on dish photos they shared on their Instagram pages, or based on a woman acquaintance’s suggestion.

      It's also interesting how little experience these women truly have at cooking in terms of "education", yet many of their youtube videos have gone viral because of how skilled they are at cooking. Power to these women for teaching themselves how to cook/bake- especially because no one else would. Theres so much risk going into these women making these youtube channels- such as risk of going bankrupt or rejection from family/friends.

    16. Four of the interviewees (Derya, Hasibe, Semahat, and Lale) had never experienced working outside their homes. Except for Nefise and Merve, who expressed being able to read written English, and Lale who has Arabic language skills, none of the participants could speak any language other than Turkish.

      Is there a lot of women in the work force in Turkey? Is it a rare occurence for women to work outside their homes? I also find it interesting that many of these women didn't know a second language, whereas in other places language learning at a young age is crucial.

    17. Most of them had experienced cross-cousin marriage. Half of the sample are single mothers, one of whom had been widowed and the others divorced and mostly unsupported by their ex-husbands. Except for two women (Nefise and Merve),3 all have only high-school-level education or below

      Is cross cousin marriage a common practice/ occurence in Turkey? I'm aware it happens in a lot of different places, it's interesting to see the cultural norms throughout each country/religion.

    18. he number of subscribers to the YouTube channels of the women I contacted ranged from 1,000 to 1 million (with a median of 126 K—see Table 2 in the Appendix).

      One of the questions I had earlier revolved around how the selection process worked- and how high the subscriber count had to be in order for these women to be interviewed. I really like how the author picked women that had a subscriber count ranging from 1000-1 million, I think it's important to include channels that are just starting out.

    19. Fashion shows featuring fashion models in slim-fit modest clothes took off and gained popularity. Yet, wearing red lipstick and nail polish in pious fashion was still a taboo as recently as the 2000s (Gokariksel & Secor, 2015, pp. 2590–2591).

      It's crazy how recent that is, although the early 2000's were almost 20 years ago, it still seems crazy to me that women wearing lipstick and nail polish only became accepted around this time.

    20. Due to the government’s regulation of dress in public after the military coup in 1980, women wearing hijabs were not allowed to attend university and faced barriers entering into public institutions.

      I think this is an interesting contrast to the point made earlier- women were expected to be educated, raising good children, and being a good wife, yet women wearing hijabs were banned from attending university and getting any sort of future education.

    21. eligious clothes and accessories were banned in public in accordance with the principle of “laicism.” As a representative of the modern Turkish nation, women were discouraged from wearing headscarves, as though veiling communicated obsolete values.

      I'm a little confused by this section- muslim women were not supposed to wear headscarves during the 1960's, but now they are encouraged to wear it? What was the shift that enforced women to start wearing headscarves?

    22. According to the Quranic verses, women should behave modestly in public by lowering their gaze, covering themselves appropriately, and eschewing any trappings of glamor. The virtue of piety is gauged according to how a woman’s demeanor embodies humility, honesty, and reverence (Ahmed, 1992, pp. 54–57; Mahmood, 2005, pp. 100–123). T

      What were to happen if these women disobeyed that? Is there a potential for physical violence or would they be shunned from their community?

    23. This is partly because, as Fatima Aziz (2019, p. 136) has observed, “from an Islamic cultural perspective . . . female sexuality is considered more potent than those of males and is therefore highly regulated.” Based on this assumption, a woman’s voice alone is viewed by some as having the potential to arouse male lust (Mahmood, 2005, p. 65), while it is expressly forbidden (haram) for women to invite or return the gaze of any man other than a close male kin member ((a) mahram) with whom marriage would be considered haram (Tobin, 2016, p. 81).

      This is unfortunately the reality that a lot fo muslim women and women in general experience- being blamed for the way a man behaves, instead of blaming the man.

    24. In contexts in which there is widespread surveillance of social behavior, both on digital platforms and in society, Muslim women need to invest special efforts in impression management online. In constructing their online identities, as Pearce and Vitak (2016) state, they need to calculate the costs and benefits through the use of privacy settings and paying close attention to the social codes prevailing in their environments.

      It's unfortunate that these women create content to make a living for themselves but it's also incredibly risky due to their culture and religion. However, it's interesting that these cooking vloggers need to be careful with their content due to backlash from their community.

    25. As opposed to other social spaces dominated by men, Lewis (2015) and Piela (2017) point out that social media platforms provide a relatively safe space for Muslim women to communicate with others and curate their own modesty norms. In pursuing this opportunity, Salam (2020) argues that Muslim women vloggers challenge the idea that women belong only in the private sphere.

      I also think the online community is a great way to connect with other people that share the same values and beliefs that you do. It's nice to see these women be able to connect with other muslim women.

    26. Turkish Muslim housewives I interviewed who vlog their domestic labor prefer to be as invisible as possible on account of sociocultural and religious concerns. For the same reason, they assume an air of moral detachment in their presentations in place of pursuing intimacy. Their cooking performances in public are conducted in a modest and pious manner. Rather than through their physical appearance, they prefer to exercise their agency through the performance of cooking, narration, and materials on the video. In this way, on the other hand, their (re-)presentations are disputed online in connection with the societal values of Turkey.

      I find it interesting how most of the women interviewed prefer to be invisible due to religious and cultural concerns. Would they be shamed if these videos went viral?

    27. Therefore, as my study explores an aspect of “the lives of women whose desire, affect, and will have been shaped by non-liberal traditions” (Mahmood, 2001, p. 203), the performance and maintenance of online self-brands inevitably involve the embodiment of cultural values prevalent within the vlogger’s milieu and their (more or less homogeneous) intended audience. In the case of Turkish Muslim women vlogging their cooking skills, such self-branding efforts include taking great care to not only avoid offending prevailing norms and gender expectations but also to meticulously ensure that their online performances and brands embody the virtues of piety and modesty which are central to Islamic notions of femininity.

      I don't think I realized how much went into the content these women make. They have to take a lot into account when they publish their content, including how the audience will perceive it and the fact that they need to be modest.

    28. All the women in this study defined themselves as “housewives,” including those who were single mothers or divorcees. The average age is 41 and most have limited formal education and few employment opportunities.

      It's very interesting to see the duality between those who become vloggers to get rich and famous, while other people genuinely need to create content to put food on the table.

    29. Yet, this conceptualization which is predominantly based on how self-branding is performed by women in the West (Gibson, 2019), overlooks the very different ways in which digital media are used by women outside the West and from less advantaged backgrounds, including the role of socioeconomic and cultural factors in their efforts to maintain their self-brands. In sum, prevailing accounts of women’s self-branding on digital platforms have neglected to consider diversity in social positionalities.

      Platforms such as Tiktok have been infamously known for promoting white men and women on the app, while many black and brown people have the same content that oftentimes gets hidden and therefore gets less views.

    30. n extolling “can-do” and “always-active-and-productive” woman role models, postfeminist discourses urge women to self-brand themselves through “mediated intimacy” which also engenders them to compete for attention on digital media platforms (Banet-Weiser et al., 2020), “offering [their] personal lives for consumption by unknown others” (Kanai, 2017, p. 296). These and other findings suggest that being seen as sexually alluring and fashionable is what young women widely want to accomplish

      I love the way this is described: "offering their personal lives for consumption by unknown others." Becoming an influencer or "instagram" model has become increasingly popular on social media. Is this helping, or hurting our culture and the way young children on the platform view themselves?

    31. Social media platforms have been hailed as spaces with the potential to amplify marginal voices and thus enhance cultural diversity, including by facilitating individual empowerment through self-branding.

      This is an interesting take because many people have different views on the purpose of social media. On one hand, it's an outlet for creativity and individuals to express themselves, while also being a space for hateful messages, promoting unhealthy habits, etc.