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  1. Sep 2022
    1. And another real, real, good result is we gone help reduce prejudice.

      BIG POINT: Young's conclusion, part two! They address both of their arguments in the closing paragraph, tying them together once again.

    2. Labov say that “in many ways [black] working-class speakers are more effective narrators, reasoners, and debaters than manymiddle-class [white] speakers, who temporize, qualify, and lose their argument ina mass of irrelevant detail” (qtd in Graff 37).So when we teach the rhetorical devices of blacks we can add to the writingproficiency of whites and everybody else.

      Yes yes and yes! When you spend so much time developing the skill of observing the status quo, and understanding your own thoughts and language in relation to it, that skill absolutely translates to argumentation!

    3. The metaphorical language tool box be expandin, baby.

      I really love that Young used several media-form examples to highlight this point! It acknowledges that there are more types of media now in the advent of the Internet, and it gives the audience proof that this "tool box" includes more than just academic writing.

    4. writers of color who have been using the blended form [...] from the get-go

      This is why we ought to study multiple languages and language influences! We would get to know why and how writers with multi-lingual backgrounds have the ability to blend language and thought in a way that is transformative!

    5. Campbell just one of many academics—pro-fessors of language and writin studies, no less—who code mesh.

      More call to credibility here! But it also serves as an excellent proof that there are examples of code meshing that are highly successful in higher academia, this essay notwithstanding.

    6. The Internet, among other mass media, as well as the language habits ofAmerica’s ever-growing diverse ethnic populations be affecting how everybodytalk and write now, too.

      Young is leading us into a new point here. I agree that creating an entirely new playing field of communication has transformed our ability to absorb, bend, and integrate languages that we are newly exposed to.

    7. theseexamples

      I love the linguistic breakdown of all of these examples! It goes back to Young's earlier assertion that even people in "high-ranking" positions still bend language rules to suit what they need.

    8. This mode of communication be just as frequently used by politicians and profes-sors as it be by journalists and advertisers.

      Young's using ethos here, lending credibility to the idea that code meshing has always been a Thing, and should be explored further. If it's good enough for politicians and professors, it's good enough to teach students!

    9. Code meshing what we all do whenever we communicate—writin, speakin, whateva.Code meshing blend dialects, international languages, local idioms, chat-roomlingo, and the rhetorical styles of various ethnic and cultural groups in both formaland informal speech acts.

      Big definition of code meshing here. Pay attention, me!

    10. mulitdialectalism and pluralingual-ism in one speech act, in one paper

      Again with the self-awareness! Describing the thing while having spent six pages doing the thing! Incredible!

    11. two languages and dialects co-existing inone speech act (Auer).

      So so so cool. From Creole to Janglish to Twitter-speak to Olde English, language has always been a swirl of multiple influences. I'm very glad I learned the real definition of code-switching, after being told something entirely different for so long.

    12. He say that we should have students totranslate the way they talk into standard English on a chalk board.

      Classrooms absolutely still teach like this. Even when I was a kid we had a list of "unacceptable slang" that we could never say or write in class.

    13. convoluted language

      Hehe! I love this moment! It's yet another credit to Young's intentional style. By dropping in a word like "convoluted", we see how self-aware this writing is. In short, Young makes this style-fluidity look easy!

    14. grad students also be tryin too hardto sound smart, to write like the folk they be readin, instead of usin they own voices.

      Oof. I love that Young mentions this. It's something I wish we really took some of the pressure away from, because it certainly does lead to burnt-out students with flat writing that they take no pride in!

    15. Standard language ideology insist that minority people

      This dissection is perfect. Again we realize that by following the strings of Fish' logic, we come to the same point: marginalized communities will be shut-out, blamed for the exclusion, then asked, "why didn't you say thank you?"

    16. Race aint got nothin to do with it, he gone add. It be onlyabout speakin and writin standard English

      Another rebuttal of Fish' argument coming up! Again Young does a good job of connecting their two primary points: that standardizing English has everything to do with race, and that multi-lingual language teaching benefits everyone.

    17. What the writer/speakersays (or means) often controls the form of the sentence.

      Yup yup! Will be checking out Inoue's work for further insight in the near future! I think this is one of the best points to be made when someone polices language. If you understood what the person meant, then you understood them, period.

    18. In a short, 13-wordsentence, the chief academic officer of the highest ranked university in the country,and therefore in the entire world, has committed three grammatical crimes, failureto mark the possessive case, failure to specify the temporal and the causal relation-ships between the conversations he has and the effects he regrets, and failure toobserve noun-pronoun agreement

      So after Lawrence Summers acknowledged he made a mistake in gate-keeping educational language, Stanley Fish went on an unnecessary grammar rant... to gatekeep educational language. The irony of this one white man policing another white man's writing is so ridiculous, and serves Young's point well.

    19. some folks can get away with not meeting those rules while others get punished

      OOH. This is the best point made about this subject. Nobody is perfect at language, not even the most institutionally-educated. BUT if they do get away with bending or dodging the rules, that doesn't mean that more vulnerable communities have that same privilege. I think this is brings the beginning points in this essay full-circle.

    20. What we need to dois enlarge our perspective about what good writin is and how good writin can lookat work, at home, and at school.

      BIG POINT: Call to action statement here by Young. This is the crown of their argument!

    21. descriptively

      "Prescriptive vs. Descriptive" language-teaching. When prescriptive teaching operates on the inherent notion that some languages are "bad", descriptive teaching acknowledges that each language is valid. MORE importantly, each language doesn't just exist in a vacuum, like we tend to believe.

    22. prescriptive

      I really just like this word to describe Fish' process. Prescriptive implies that there is inherently something wrong with the way non-SAE speakers communicate, and that with the right treatment is can be fixed.

    23. that aint natural or easy to understand

      direct reference to Young's own point made above. "Natural vs. unnatural" is a really interesting idea to pursue! Will be thinking on that for a while. It definitely does make sense that forcing language rules actively hurts "natural" language patterns. I wonder how many of us have already gotten used to Young's writing style after a few paragraphs? Our brains are flexible!!

    24. some peeps gone say this illustrate how Fish be rite, why we need to beteachin mo standard grammar and stuff. If you look at it from Fish view, yeah itmean that. But if you look at it from my view, it most certainly dont mean that.

      Young leads with Fish' argument, then refutes it immediately. This whole segment feels self-aware of the "argumentative essay genre", and it made me chuckle to read!

      This also marks another transition in Young's main argument.

    25. even folks with good jobs in the corporate world

      read: upper-middle class, probably white, educated people. I respect that Young phrases it the way that they did, because it adds to the shock value upon the first reading.

    26. It’s natural (Coleman)

      I wish this line got to stand out on its own a bit more! The citation next to it detracts from the impact of this simple (and effective) statement.

    27. . Everybody mix the dialect they learn athome with whateva other dialect or language they learn afterwards

      Big point here. Sets up the foundation for future evidence where Young points out the fluid use of both "Standard English" and colloquial phrases in several different forms of media.

    28. And that’s my exact argument

      The big argument of the piece has been addressed! I love that it was introduced right after pointing out the biggest fallacy in Fish' logic above.

    29. language rites

      This part stood out to me in the several times that Young purposefully misspells "rights"-- like so much of the intentional switch-ups in this essay, this change has its own quiet meaning!

    30. Black English dont make it own-self oppressed

      Ties in both topics above and below. Also, if this was the only sentence in the entire work, it would still deliver!

    31. Asian or black or with an Applachian accent or sound like whatever aint thestatus quo

      It's actually kinda nice that Young mentions Appalachian accents here-- and the combination of all the lived identities that they mention is key, too. Though Young is approaching from a Black identity-perspective, they are keeping other identities in mind to demonstrate their point later in the essay about mixed-linguistics.

    32. “vulnerableto prejudice”

      The logic in this idea, that by communicating in their own languages, students are essentially "setting themselves up" for prejudice... I almost wish we could return to this assignment later in the year, and read Stanley Fish' referenced essay, so we could pinpoint all the blatant contradictions!

    33. three-piece New York Times“What Should Colleges Teach?” suit

      I've read this intro at least three times now and this line here gets more amusing each time. We don't need to get further than the FIRST sentence to know exactly how Young sees Fish, even if we don't yet know what stance Young takes themselves.

    34. We affirm the students’ right to their own patterns and varietiesof language—the dialects of their nurture or whatever dialectsin which they find their own identity and style

      Why would we rid ourselves of these values?? I believe this is an excellent intro quote by Young, as this line of logic provided by Fish sets the stage for us to understand what he is like as an instructor AND a "leader".