On 2023-02-11 22:49:23, user Vitaly V. Ganusov wrote:
Review of the paper by Rahmberg et al. “Ongoing Production of Tissue-Resident Macrophages from Hematopoietic Stem Cells in Healthy Adult Macaques” [part of the MICR603 “Journal club in Immunology”]
Summary. Tissue-resident macrophage are cells playing an important role in homeostasis of tissues by removing dying cells as well as responding to local exposures to microbes. The origin of tissue-resident macrophages has been under intense investigation; studies primarily done in laboratory mice suggest that some macrophages (e.g., microglia) are derived from yolk sac during embryonic development while other macrophages (e.g., in the gut) are primarily derived from circulating in the blood monocytes. Laboratory mice are typically kept in clean conditions with little to no exposure to many pathogens, and whether the conclusions found studies with mice extend to other animals including humans remains unclear. This study takes an advantage of using GFP-expressing hematopoietic stem cell (HPSC) transplantation of monkeys with barcoded stem cells to track the dynamics of barcoded, bone marrow-derived cells in the tissues. Interestingly, the authors found that macrophages in liver, spleen/LN, and GI tract have high frequency of the GFP expressing cells and suggesting high turnover of these tissue-resident macrophages from bone marrow-derived precursors. Authors performed several additional analyses to ensure robustness of their findings including imaging of GFP-expressing macrophages, analysis of barcode sequences between different bone marrow-derived T cells, and using classical pulse-chase experiments to detect division of macrophages in the tissues.
Positive feedback. The study is a timely addition to the debate on the origins of tissue-resident macrophages in animals that live in environments with larger exposure to environmental antigens. The use of barcoded bone marrow-derived cells to track origin of cells in the peripheral tissues is innovative and interesting. The analysis of imaging data to ensure that GFP-expressing macrophages are not phagocytosing other cells is important, and PCA analysis of the barcodes is important to establish relatedness between different cell types. Labeling with BrdU is also a useful way to look at cell turnover that had been forgotten and may be revived by this study. Yet, because of some missing controls and not fully rigorous analysis of the data the conclusion that tissue-resident macrophages in monkeys undergo relatively rapid replacement from bone marrow-derived cells remains to be determined.
Major Concerns
It seems that several controls are missing in the paper. In particular, having the data in which samples are done very early after HPSC transplantation would be very important - it is expected that no GFP+ cells would be then found in tissues - so, presenting data for GFP+ cells (e.g., for key populations) as these change over time would be most useful for interpretation (some of that is present with barcodes but comes too late in the paper). This is a major limitation of the study that does not allow to fully interpret the data.
Most tissues are filled with blood. How do you know that you did not sample cells in the blood that have features of macrophages (e.g., MHCII+)? Work with serial intravascular staining by Mario Roederer’s group clearly showed contamination of tissue samples (e.g., LNs) by blood-derived cells (PMID: 33441422). Some type of control is needed (e.g., intravascular staining).
Are these “myeloid cells” macrophages? Can the authors show some other types of data, e.g., imaging that clearly identifies those isolated cells as macrophages?
Gut-resident macrophages are known to be primarily monocyte-derived, so for these cells, finding high frequency of GFP+ cells is not surprising. What about brain-associated macrophages in monkeys? Are these HPSC-derived? (In mice, they seem to be yolk sac-derived). Another site to look at may be skin and other skin cells (e.g., Langerhans cells?)
It is hard to interpret what the data on percent of GFP+ cells mean. For example, if one finds 20% of cells with irradiation of monkeys in 2-3 months after transplantation, what does this suggest in terms of kinetics of macrophage turnover? It seems that the authors would benefit from some type of mathematical modeling-based analysis to generate a baseline prediction on expectations.
PCA analysis lacks rigor. Finding that some points are “clustered” and some are not must be done with some statistical tests. For example, resampling the data and reclustering may provide some evidence of robustness of clusters.
Interpretation of BrdU data can be made better. There have been a wealth of mathematical models aim at inferring cell division and death rates from pulse chase experiments (e.g., 9469816, 10799860, 12737664, 23034350), perhaps authors could use those methods to provide some boundaries of the macrophage division rate and/or differentiation-from-monocyte rates. Also, including some data - if available - on labeling during pulse dynamics - could be very informative.
A comparison to some other cells that we know do not have long residency time in tissues may be useful - e.g., neutrophils. THese are thought to be relatively short-lived cells in the blood (but this is again debated) and in the tissues. What is the GFP/barcode kinetics in neutrophils?
Minor concerns
Authors should better describe experimental design and specifically sampling details. For example, Fig 1A does not fully explain when the animals were sampled. Is 46m is the time of 1st sample for JM82? Is 49m when the animal was sacrificed? Only looking at Fig 3 it is possible to see sampling times but this is too late in the paper. Captions must be improved to explain that all and be more detailed.
There are sometimes too generic statements that may not be fully supported by the presented data, e.g., turnover of ALL macrophages being rapid (e.g., last paragraph in Discussion). Yet, authors only sampled some tissues.
Paper organization could be improved. For example, it is easier to review the paper when figures and figure captions are located on the same page. Numbering the lines in the paper can help to provide comments to specific parts of the paper.
Better formatting of the references would be helpful - .e.g, more space between individual entries or numbering the entries.
Figure 2D could include control with macrophages that may carry high levels of of TCRg, e.g., from the thymus.
Figure 2 figure legend could be more descriptive about which panels are representative of which sample
Figure 2 could have info on the tissues where samples were coming from (e.g., Macrophage/liver), etc. GFP staining in these images is hard to interpret - perhaps adding a membrane stain and DAPI (nuclear stain) could help to tell that GFP is in the cytoplasm.
Table 1 could also include symbols/shapes used in graphs to identify animals.
Would be very interesting to see spleen confocal to compare macrophages and their GFP staining - will them have the scattered signal due to taking up dying cells?
Adding shapes used in Figure 1A &D to differentiate each group to Table 1 would be helpful
It may be useful to discuss potential reasons for macrophage dynamics differences between mice and monkeys - is that because species are different or because they live in different environments. Would experiments in dirty mice be useful to tell if the environment is what is the main driver of (perhaps) different macrophage dynamics in some tissues?
For necropsied animals, is it possible to show data for macrophages in tissues that show little evidence of link to hematopoietic system (e.g., microglia)?
It may be useful to more thoroughly discuss the efficiency of lentivirus infection. Does this efficiency impact interpretation of GFP/barcode dynamics, e.g., does one need to normalize the data in some way?
The number of samples per time point (e.g., Fig 5) is varied per animal and tissue. Perhaps some justification of this could be useful.
In Figure 3, would it be possible to better describe how to interpret the PCA plots? Also, it would be good to use other colors besides green and red as green-red color blindness is the most common form.