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    1. On 2022-12-14 17:59:51, user Andrew Liang wrote:

      Hi, my name is Andrew Liang and I’m currently in the Biomedical Research Program at UCLA. I want to thank you for the work that you did in this paper. We had the great opportunity to read and examine the paper in detail and we had come up with a few comments that we would like to offer!

      For Figure 2A, we noticed that in the UMAP data, there appears to be two separate clusters for Red Blood Cells that are far apart from one another. We were a little confused yet curious to know whether there is an explanation for such separation despite both being the same type of cells. We understand that the main focus of this UMAP was to show the presence of PGCs on embryonic day 50, but seeing the two separate clusters for Red Blood Cells, we couldn’t help but wonder whether the UMAP data were completely accurate. Nevertheless, we understood and appreciated the effort into obtaining this UMAP data showing a cluster for PGCs.

      For Figure 3B, we thought it would be appropriate to have some explanation within the paper or in the caption of the images to guide our attention to the significance of the brightfield images. While studying the paper, we were a little confused with what the brightfield images were trying to show except that cells aggregated together. Furthermore, since there is already a FACS data at the bottom of the brightfield images that gives readers much more useful information, we wonder whether those brightfield images could be excluded or be added as supplemental figures instead. Overall, we were still very impressed with the efficiency and the success of this induction process from iPSCs straight to cjPGCLCs without inducing into iMeLCs first.

      For Figure 6C, the arrow in the PCA is camouflaged by the gray background. We thought it would be more appropriate to use a different color for the arrow in order to make the figure clearer and visually appealing. In addition, both Figure 6E and 6F are a little confusing since there are so many lines jumbled together. We believe using a different visual representation may be able to clarify the significance of these two figures.

      Overall, this was a very impressive paper. We learned a lot and thought it definitely made a lot of significant breakthroughs in the field of generation of primordial germ cells. All the data building from figure 1 to figure 5 have a nice story and flow to it. Figure 6 and 7 disrupt the flow a little, but we understood and appreciate the effort of trying to connect the findings to human significance. Once again, thank you so much for all that work that is put into this study. Great work!

    1. On 2022-12-14 17:32:54, user Sukanya Mohapatra wrote:

      This paper was very extensive and its implications on lengthening lifespan and healthspan are evident. I appreciated that there were different types of evidence to support the claims being made and the experimental processes were detailed. This allowed for a good mix of qualitative and quantitative data being offered. A nice variety of visuals were also included in the figures, such as the images of mouse physiology in the extended data and the diagram of PROTOMAP DARTS in figure 2. I also liked that there were rescue of condition experiments and in general there was a considerable increase in the lifespan of male mice, meaning there is a lot of potential for future research. Finally, I did think it was extensive that two different systems of developmental model organisms were used and that these experiments took a considerable amount of time. Additionally, female mice were included in the study and all organisms were inspected daily to reduce the chance of confounding variables.<br /> I do think this paper could be made even stronger with some reorganizing and adding sections to separate the paper, ex: Introduction, Results, Discussion etc. Furthermore, some additional discussion to emphasize why this focus should be important to us would be helpful. As for statistical improvements, post-hoc tests could be added, and using power analysis or statistical tests to determine sample sizes would have been useful. Sample sizes were also really small with female mice specifically. Explaining the reason for the threshold of the False Discovery Rate would be helpful as well as including it in the figures. As for figure explanations, in terms of mitochondrial “perturbation”, additional context on if this is negative or positive change would be appreciated. In figure legends, it was hard to tell why some terminology was red and why some was black. There was a missing loading control in figure 3D and no quantification of figure 3E. Additionally, sex comparisons in mice could have been more comprehensive. Males needed their activity level measured and the analysis of both males and females for all experiments was sometimes missing. <br /> Overall however, this is a strong paper with very interesting results! I am excited to see what else this lab works on!

    2. On 2022-12-13 00:26:32, user Mansi Sharma wrote:

      It was interesting to read about the rescue of condition experiments performed on the mice and C. elegans. The daily surveillance of the model organisms reduced the chance of confounding variables so readers could trust the data more and feel more secure in the results. Including female mice was also a great addition so applications of the findings could be more inclusive.

      In regards to the statistical analysis of the data, if some post-HOC tests were run those results would have been nice to see. The missing loading control in figure 3d was also alarming. The lack of quantification in figure 3e was also something I noticed that would be a great addition. Including the false discovery rate in figures would also be helpful. Specificity about mitochondrial perturbation could have also provided more clarity. Lastly, keeping the sex comparisons consistent throughout the studies would be best. For instance, there were no male mice activity levels in one study so comparing male and female mice throughout all the studies would be ideal.

      However, despite some of the changes one could consider, the findings of the study were profound and interesting to read about. This study could lead to the exploration of more effects by endogenous metabolites on increasing health and lifespan.

    3. On 2022-12-08 22:57:33, user Abbie Hall wrote:

      Hello! I really enjoyed your paper about alpha-ketobutyrate effects on lifespan and healthspan in C. elegans and mice. I thought the results were fascinating! I thought your experiments were well laid out and supported your claims. I also appreciated how you provided qualitative and quantitative data and included two model organisms.

      Here are some general comments I have about your paper. I think it could be helpful to split the paper up more by different sections, like materials and methods, discussion, etc, to make it more organized. In regards to your figures, I think it would be helpful to include the data being statistically significant and the p-value. For example, I really liked how figure 4 did this and I think it could be useful for the other figures as well. Additionally, I think it could be helpful to explain why you chose your sample sizes, such as figure 1. You suggest that you included the sample size because of previous research so it would be helpful to cite this research or even perform a power analysis to justify your sample size.

      I really appreciate how you included male and female mice in your study. Additionally, I appreciated how you still included female mice in your studies on healthspan even though there was not a statistically significant increase in lifespan for these mice. In regards to figure 4e, I think it would be helpful to perform this study on male mice as well. It was interesting how alpha-ketobutyrate was able to decrease the decline of motility for female mice; however, it would be interesting to investigate if these results are also applicable to male mice, as you have displayed in this study, there is a difference between male and female mice. Additionally, I noticed how male and female mice were grouped together in 4f when studying hepatology. As the other experiments separated the two by sex, I also think it would be helpful to keep them separated when studying this. I noticed how there was only one female mouse included in this study so it would be helpful to include a larger sample size if possible.

      Overall, I found your paper really interesting! Really great job!

    1. On 2022-12-13 23:26:57, user Tyler Nelson wrote:

      Published in the 2021 volume of the Journal of the Entomological Society of British Columbia.

      https://journal.entsocbc.ca...

      Nelson, T. D. and Moffat, C. E. (2021). A northern range extension of a Canadian species of Special Concern, Dielis pilipes (Hymenoptera: Scoliidae), in the Okanagan Valley of British Columbia. Journal of the Entomological Society of British Columbia 118: 82-86.

    1. On 2022-12-13 22:09:12, user Eesha Chattopadhyay wrote:

      Hello Dr. Oh,

      My name is Eesha Chattopadhyay and I am an undergraduate student at UCLA taking part in the biomedical research minor. I wanted to thank you for your work in this paper, as our journal club gained a lot from reading and presenting it this quarter. As part of the group that chose your paper to delve deeper into, I had a couple of suggestions that our class felt would make your paper even better.

      Firstly, while reading the paper, our class was slightly confused as to why you decided to focus only on miRNA 106b-5p, when Figure 5I showed that there was a significant decrease in glucose uptake within cells transfected with mimics of both 106b-5p and Let7g-5p. Our class felt that explaining this choice further in the paper would go a long way in understanding the role that specifically 106b-5p played. Did Let7g-5p also increase in expression at lower levels of serum vitamin D?

      Additionally, while the methodology of this paper was very impressive, our class found that since there were no diagrams relaying methodological information it was rather difficult to find all of the information needed to contextualize each experiment. While the text explains the connections between all of the downstream effects of Jarid2 suppression due to vitamin D deficiency, some sort of comprehensive flow-chart or diagram would be very helpful for reading while trying to understand your work.

      Thank you so much again for making your work available for us to read. I found your work to be highly inspiring and our class had a great time deconstructing this paper!

    1. On 2022-12-13 02:06:56, user Alexander Ioannidis wrote:

      The authors ignore most of our analyses, especially those that contradict their conclusions. They derive a valuable equation, but it is unable to resolve the settlement path of Polynesia (in contrast to our allele frequency methods).

      See our response here,<br /> http://arxiv.org/abs/2212.0...

    1. On 2022-12-12 14:48:29, user Laura N. wrote:

      Hi,

      Thank you for the interesting work. If I may ask a couple of questions out of interest:

      • Was the pressure also modelled to take reflection onto the petri dish and water-air boundary into account or were the provided intensities based on the large water tank measurements? And if the latter, how did you compare the threshold intensities for a 39.5 and 500 kHz wave?

      • Were any additional experiments done to conclude the second harmonics were coming from cavitation?

      • "The increase in amplitude at the fundamental frequency was greater than other spectral components at 500 kHz"<br /> Is there an explanation for this effect?

      Many thanks in advance.<br /> -Laura

    1. On 2022-12-12 07:34:34, user Henriette Autzen wrote:

      The following is a review by Anna Engstrøm Garbers, Jan Ostendorf, Carlotta Strelow, Pep Cunill Subiranas, Victoria Amstrup Vold, Marvin Michael Weiler and Henriette E. Autzen.

      Summary<br /> Dalal et al. investigates the structural consequences that various lipid nanodisc systems have on a pentameric ligand-gated ion channel (pLGIC) from Erwinia (ELIC). The authors solved four structures of agonist-bound ELIC reconstituted in styrene-maleic acid (SMA), circularized Spycatcher-Spytag membrane scaffold protein (spMSP), and saposin and apo-ELIC5 (a non-desensitized mutant) reconstituted in spMSP using single particle cryo-electron microscopy (cryo-EM). The authors compare these four cryo-EM structures with previously solved nanodisc structures of the same protein(s) and find that different nanodisc systems produce different ELIC conformations. They conclude that “the nanodisc scaffold affects the structure of ELIC and this effect likely relates, in part, to nanodisc size”. They use molecular dynamics (MD) simulations to further substantiate this conclusion.

      The aim of the study is of great relevance for the assessment of meaningfulness of cryo-EM structures of membrane proteins reconstituted in various nanodisc systems, which has become a central approach for solving many different classes of membrane proteins. This was also one of our primary motivations for discussing the manuscript in class. As such, in its current form, the manuscript is difficult to read and primarily of interest to biochemists and structural biologists specifically working on pentameric ligand-gated ion channels in vitro. The evidence that the observed structural differences of ELIC can be ascribed to the different environments is primarily based on the cryo-EM structures. As it is not entirely clear to what extent the vitrification process influences the structures of ion channels, it is relevant to further substantiate these observations with biophysical studies performed in vitro in this or later studies of ELIC to appreciate if it is a general trend or only pertains to ELIC.

      Below we outline some questions and comments that the authors might consider when revising the manuscript. Several of our comments are centered on the presentation of data, which are missing details if this work is to target a broader audience than the manuscript in its present form does.

      Comments and Questions<br /> 1) The authors solve ELIC in SMA-stabilized discs, generated from ELIC proteoliposomes composed by POPC:POPE:POPG, starting with DDM-solubilized ELIC. A huge advantage of the SMA technology is that it can be used for detergent-free solubilization of membrane proteins in what has been coined “native nanodiscs”. We realize that the workflow taken by the authors enables better comparison between different nanodisc systems, keeping the starting material and the lipid composition constant; however, we cannot help but wonder why the authors didn’t also attempt to purify ELIC in SMA directly from E. coli membranes to address whether this part of the preparation has an effect on the conformation. Considering previous studies indicating that ELIC is dependent on its lipid composition, it is relevant to address which influence native lipids will have on the conformation downstream. Importantly, the proteoliposome approach which was used to prepare SMA-ELIC should be directly stated in the main text such that the reader immediately knows that the SMA-ELIC structure has seen detergent. <br /> 2) In extension of the above point, we also wonder why the authors did not attempt to vary the lipid composition in the reconstituted systems to probe their influence, or at the very least included a discussion of such effects. We of course recognize that including additional structural studies would have made the study even more extensive than it already is. <br /> 3) We find it challenging to understand exactly what the pore radii of each ELIC conformational state mean. The authors show in Figure 1 and 2 that the radius of the pore changes, but it is hard to follow what exactly this means in terms of gating. How narrow does the pore have to be for it to effectively be occluded? We assume that the central residue distances are those highlighted in Figure 1 (16’ (F247), 9’ (L240), and 2’ (Q233)), however, what is the significance of 16’, 9’ if 2’ is the gate? This is hard to follow for a non-ELIC/pLIC expert.<br /> 4) The authors state that “The nanodisc structure for SMAELIC was too disordered to measure” (line 106). At this time, it is not possible to review the cryo-EM maps (nor the PDB modes associated with them) as these are all withheld from publication, so it is difficult to understand why it was not possible to carry out the analysis on this map following the same procedure as for the other maps as Figure 1 shows a density for the nanodisc similar to the other structures. <br /> 5) According to Suppl. Figure 4, the sidechain of Lys?? lies outside of the shown map density. The authors should reconsider whether or not modelling the sidechains of Lys?? in the SMAELIC model is fair based on their data. <br /> 6) The authors are quite sparse in terms of introducing the reader to their model system, ELIC. For instance: Where is it from, where is it expressed, what activates it, what is its selectivity, and how relevant are studies on ELIC(5) to pLICs from other species? An explanation of this would allow the reader to appreciate the significance of the presented findings further.<br /> 7) In extension of the above, the agonist is not properly introduced. It is only indirectly mentioned that propylamine is the agonist in the main text.<br /> 8) The authors use a mutated form of ELIC - ELIC5 - to represent the optimal activated conformation. The authors should explain why they can use ELIC5 as the “true” activated conformation of ELIC.<br /> 9) The authors should provide a SEC trace of the SMA ELIC sample. This seems to be missing from Suppl. Figure 3a and b.<br /> 10) There are two large peaks in the SEC traces of the saposin sample in Suppl. Figure 3a. We assume the peak around 15 mL is saposin alone, but this is not clear from the text.<br /> 11) The authors should provide SDS-page gels of all their samples to showcase their purity.<br /> 12) The authors should explain why global superposition is the best option for their structural analysis.<br /> 13) The authors should consider stating if and how their MD simulations are limited in terms of sampling, e.g., is it enough to do single MD simulations of each system or should they have performed several runs of the same systems? <br /> 14) Figure 7 shows that the bilayer thickness for both 9 and 11 nm nanodiscs increases at the largest distance measured from the TMDs. This trend should be explained.

      The language in the manuscript is good, however, there are minor details throughout that would tighten it up:<br /> 15) The presentation of the results is somewhat confusing. For instance, in lines 73-100, the authors should clarify what findings are part of this study and what are contained in previous studies. Furthermore, a thorough introduction to the different nanodiscs and why they were selected is missing; The authors could consider including an overview of estimated sizes that different nanodisc systems typically support early on in the text. This would ease the understanding of the MD analysis later in the text, which mainly deals with the diameter of the systems, in addition to the estimated nanodisc sizes from the cryo-EM data.<br /> 16) The reader could benefit from Figure 1 showcasing the structures solved in the current paper only, in addition to the proposed conformational states of ELIC in a schematic (Figure 4e could be included in Figure 1).<br /> 17) It is hard to get a good overview of the main findings of the paper. One way to improve the structure of the text, the authors could consider presenting their results with more conclusive headlines. E.g., the header in line 172 (“Different nanodisc scaffolds produce a range of agonist-bound conformations”) is too general and would also be applicable to findings included in the previous paragraph and the headers in line 200 and 249 do not mention the main finding of the following paragraph.<br /> 18) Lines 76-80 cites original literature dealing with the channel opening of ELIC, however, it is hard to follow what “greater” and “quite high” means here, particularly as the literature cited is supposedly rather quantitative, e.g., “saturating concentrations of agonist in HEK membranes has been estimated to be > 0.96”.<br /> 19) Another statement that is diffuse and should be elaborated upon is “The measured diameter of the cryo-EM density of nanodisc scaffolds”. The criteria used for this measurement should be explained here in brief or at the very least refer to Methods. <br /> 20) Cryo-EM should be introduced as an abbreviation when it first appears (line 32 and 46).<br /> 21) It should be clear when the authors are referring to reviews and not primary literature (e.g., “as reviewed in”).<br /> 22) Domain names (e.g., ECD and TMD) should be introduced early on in the figures. It is hard to follow the analysis pertaining the helices M1-M4 as it is not explicated stated anywhere that a protomer is composed by four helices.<br /> 23) In extension of the above, in lines 210 – 214, they authors discuss the structures and the altering of “loop C” without showing the location of the named region properly. <br /> 24) Figure 4: The agonist in gray spheres in panel a and d is not helpful for the analysis. Panels f and g seem repetitive.<br /> 25) Coloring the sidechains of residues in Figure 2c with elements (red oxygens, blue nitrogens) would help the reader interpret this figure.<br /> 26) The MD simulations of the bilayer system is not properly introduced in the text, nor described in enough detail in the Methods section for the reader to understand this system, which makes it hard to follow the comparisons in the text.<br /> 27) Some of the Figure legends contains errors and should be double checked, for instance, Figure 4 shows a panel B, but its description is missing.<br /> 28) The authors should consider stating why only spMSP1D1 was subjected to MD simulations and not the other systems.<br /> 29) Figure 5 seems less important and could be included in Suppl. Same goes for Figure 7.<br /> 30) Figure 7: The chosen color scheme in Figure 7b is confusing considering red and blue denotes the two systems in panel 7a and in Figure 6.

    1. On 2022-12-11 10:19:44, user Karen Lange wrote:

      sas-6 is essential and strong loss of function of this gene causes embryonic lethality. The authors modelled a missense allele sas-6(L69T) that is associated with primary microcephaly. This allele did not cause embryonic lethality but did cause ciliogenesis defects. This study is an excellent example of how modelling missense patient variants can help to elucidate specific functions of these genes and better our understanding of disease mechanisms.

      The lack of dye filling defect caught my interest. This section is very carefully worded to state that no worms were observed “that completely excluded DiI in their phasmid neurons”. Was there a partial dye filling defect? For example, did only 1 or 2 phasmid neurons dyefill? The small sample sizes of ~25 worms suggest only one replicate was performed. It may be worth investigating further. While this does not change the findings of this paper, if more variants of sas-6 are modelled in the future dye filling is the easiest/fastest assay to screen large numbers of variants.

      The authors mention that the L69T mutation is located in a conserved PISA motif. I am not familiar with this motif and a brief description would help me better understand how this variant may affect protein function.

    1. On 2022-12-09 07:46:36, user YK wrote:

      Maybe the catalog number for the Lamin A antibody is incorrect. Which antibody did you use correctly?

      Rb. Anti-Lamin A (1:50; ab16667 Abcam)

    1. On 2022-12-08 17:53:57, user HEIDI BURI wrote:

      Overall, I greatly enjoyed reading the information presented in this paper. There are many pieces of data that will serve as very important information for this field. I greatly appreciated the abundance of figures in this paper. Each figure provided relevant information for the primary question of how vasopressin is correlated to the regulation of osmolarity. I also appreciated the use of various methods to validate results. For example, both immunofluorescence staining and western blots were conducted to give qualitative and quantitative data. With this being said, there are a few suggestions that I would like to contribute.

      One concern that I have in relation to Figure 3. Parts a and b of figure 3 are very well done. I appreciated that there was a quantification and statistical analysis of the protein levels found in the western blot. I realized that there was no quantification and statistical analysis that accompanied that immunofluorescence staining. This would be a beneficial addition because it would be a mathematical representation of the significance of your data.

      An additional concern I have is with Figure 9 and other figures counting human data. Although the understanding on how vasopressin is correlated to the regulation of osmolarity, it seems that compared with the other data provided in the paper, the human data still needs to be improved. In Figure 9, it is difficult to fully conclude that there is the localization of pre-pro-vasopressin and Rab3 but by the images provided. A numerical way to quantify localization may be a beneficial addition.

    2. On 2022-12-01 23:39:27, user Blake Williams wrote:

      My name is Blake Williams and I am an undergraduate student in the Biomedical Research Minor at UCLA. I selected your paper for a journal club presentation this quarter and I really enjoyed learning from it and sharing it with my class. We all appreciated how thorough and well-designed these experiments were, the claims made in the paper were all supported by multiple strong lines of evidence. As my group and I read the paper, we had a few suggestions to share with you.

      In Figure 2B, protein abundance of the kidney derived and brain derived pre-pro-vasopressin would have been helpful to quantitatively compare the vasopressin levels from each organ.

      In Figure 4, I would have appreciated some quantitative analysis of the amount of colocalized Rab3 and pre-pro-vasopressin relative to pre-pro-vasopressin on its own in order to compare the difference between the basolateral, mid-section, and apical levels of the IMCDs.

      The methods used in Figure 5 were very creative and the results were compelling and interesting to read!

      A figure legend or explanation of the 5 different wells in the Western blot conducted in Figure 8A would make these data more clear.

      On a broader scale, I think this paper would be strengthened with a more thorough examination of pre-pro-vasopressin made in human kidneys. The sequence of mature vasopressin is the same between humans and mice, so the same assay used in Figure 5 could also be used to detect if vasopressin synthesized by human kidneys is also active. Additionally, using female mice in addition to male mice would increase the power and scope of these experiments.

      I’m excited to see future studies on this topic and the physiological impact and relevance of kidney-derived vasopressin! Looking forward to reading more work from your lab!

    1. On 2022-12-06 17:39:45, user William Nicolas wrote:

      Hello,

      There seems to be a problem with the reference list in the preprint. It is truncated, starting at reference #67.

      Thank you for fixing this.

      Very interesting paper nonetheless.

    1. On 2022-12-06 10:16:45, user Andres Romanowski wrote:

      Hi! Could you please update Supp. Table 1 to include a compiled full list of TFs and their classification (or maybe another supp table in addition to the one with the families)? That would be great, as Agris (AtTFDB, 1851 TFs - 50 families), PlantTFDB v5.0 (2296 TFs - 58 families) and Ensembl Plant GO:0003700 (1660 / 32833 genes) don't have the same elements (last time I checked). Thanks a lot!

      Edit: There are also others that are identified in the latest TAIR public release as belonging to a transcription factor family either in the curator description or computational summary that are not present in any of the 3 mentioned lists (example: AT1G31040 - ORE15 - PLATZ TF).

    1. On 2022-12-05 13:37:18, user Erik Marklund wrote:

      Cool! I'd be interested in reading more about how you actually did the MD. I also think you need to soften the claim in the abstract that your approach "exploration of all conformational space confirming the experimental data". I strongly suspect that it is too enormous to be anywhere near fully explored even with your enhanced sampling approach. That said, I applaud the use of enhanced sampling for gas-phase proteins.

    1. On 2022-12-03 14:54:44, user Alex Cope wrote:

      If you're interested in this manuscript, you may be interested in our manuscript looking at this method: https://www.biorxiv.org/con.... We applied the original pipeline described by Rosenberg et al. to simulated protein-coding sequences that should remove any correlation between the bond angles and synonymous codon usage, provided this general relationship exists. However, we get pretty much the exact same results when using either the simulated protein-coding sequences or the real protein-coding sequences. We suspect there may be some underlying biases in the data that are not accounted for in their original analysis.

    1. On 2022-12-03 11:55:16, user Pedro Madrigal wrote:

      The authors could have cited here previous work on the topic of Tn5 chromatin bias:

      https://www.frontiersin.org...

      Accounting for Sequence-Specific Bias in Genome-Wide Chromatin Accessibility Experiments: Recent Advances and Contradictions. <br /> Front Bioeng Biotechnol. 2015; 3:144. <br /> doi: 10.3389/fbioe.2015.00144. <br /> PMID: 26442258; PMCID: PMC4585268

    1. On 2022-12-02 07:44:58, user Andrzej Dziembowski wrote:

      mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 have revolutionized vaccinology and have been administered in billions of doses, demonstrating their safety and effectiveness (I was also vaccinated with the mRNA vaccine). Our data provide another reason why they are so effective.

    1. On 2022-12-02 01:19:12, user Rogerblack wrote:

      Perhaps the redesign of the bioRxiv site answers the question of this paper, and implicitly if also BioRxiv wants comments.

      The current way to find out there is a way to make a comment is to click the unlabelled icon to the far left of the line of unlabelled icons at the bottom of the introduction block just above the abstract.

      This then pops out a panel with comments.

      This is arguably 'tidier' than the original design, which showed an empty comment box at the bottom of the page along with other comments (if I am recalling correctly), but it very much does not encourage comments.

      Yes, in principle this is documented in the FAQ, and indeed in a linked blog post.

      Not having it glaringly obvious on the page is an ideal way to avoid users actually being aware they can even make a comment or assuming the process is more involved.

    1. On 2022-12-01 11:05:29, user Benjamin Kyrkjebø wrote:

      Are you sure that these sounds are intentionally made by the plants? Could the ultrasonic sounds come from bubbles forming inside of the stem due to water shortages or the weakend stems?

    1. On 2022-11-28 18:49:11, user Connor Morozumi wrote:

      Neat paper and will be important that people incorporate these findings into their pipelines for mycobiome work! I have some line item comments that I will send the authors as it's too much for a comment. My main thoughts are: 1) that a bit more info will be beneficial in the methods regarding how studies were selected, 2) it would be good to speculate a little on why there are large divergences in some ecosystems and not others, and 3) give some recommendations in the discussion beyond just using an outgroup database, ASV tables should also be checked manually and anything assigned just to Kingdom probably should be discarded or held very suspect!

    1. On 2022-11-28 17:16:49, user connor wrote:

      A little quibble: mmseqs2 taxonomy is not a 'long read' classifiers per se. Rather it was made for contigs (presumably assembled short read). this in part reflects it worser performance for noisy long reads

    1. On 2022-11-28 00:06:07, user Shyam Bhakta wrote:

      Rather than predict the folding energy of the entire mRNA, it makes more sense to predict the folding energy of just the 5' UTR through first 10 codons, with and without the SKIK tag, as it is only this region that primarily controls the translation initiation rate by RNA structure. Even better would be to predict the translation initiation rates by inputting the mRNA sequence into the Salis Lab RBS Calculator (denovodna.com). This would better show how much the SKIK codon sequence alone can be expected to affect the protein production rates.

    1. On 2022-11-27 12:46:31, user Kresten Lindorff-Larsen wrote:

      Review of “Optimizing the Martini 3 force field reveals the effects of the intricate balance between protein-water interaction strength and salt concentration on biomolecular condensate formation” by Gül H. Zerze<br /> Reviewed by F. Emil Thomasen and Kresten Lindorff-Larsen

      Comments:The preprinted manuscript by Zerze reports on molecular dynamics simulations of the intrinsically disordered low complexity domain (LCD) of FUS using a beta version of the coarse-grained force field Martini 3. The author performed simulations to study the formation of FUS LCD condensates under varying protein-water interaction strengths (in the Martini force field) and at different NaCl concentrations, and concludes that strengthening protein-water interactions by a factor of 1.03 improves the agreement with experimental transfer free energies between the dilute and dense phases. Additionally, the author concludes that the NaCl concentration affects condensate morphology and protein-protein interactions in the condensate, and that the effect of NaCl concentration on protein-protein interactions in the condensate is sensitive to rescaling of the protein-water interactions. The preprint provides an interesting and novel benchmark of the (beta) Martini 3 model in predicting phase separation of IDPs, and reveals potential short-comings of the model in predicting protein concentrations in (or volumes of) the condensed and dilute phases. This benchmark will be useful for readers who wish to simulate liquid-liquid phase separation of IDPs with Martini 3, and the work will be interesting to a wider audience interested in the biophysics of IDPs and their condensates.

      Below we outline some questions and comments that the author might take into account when revising the manuscript. Our main comment regards a clearer assessment of the convergence of the simulations and correspondingly the lack of error estimates for observables calculated from the simulations. We also suggest a clearer presentation of the experimental data used to validate the simulations. While some of these changes are mostly textual, in other cases we suggest additional simulations. We realize that some of these simulations require substantial resources; if these are beyond what is available, we suggest at least to clarify caveats as per the points below.

      We have the following suggestions for revisions to the manuscript:

      1)<br /> Fig. 1 and 2: The finding of non-spherical droplets is interesting and intriguing. To examine whether the formation of these shapes in the simulations with higher salt and λ-values represent stable states or perhaps trapped metastable states of the system, we suggest that:

      1a) The author runs simulations with the parameters that give rise to non-spherical morphologies (e.g. λ=1.025 and 50 mM NaCl) starting from the structure of the spherical droplet (for example formed with λ=1.0 and no salt) and observe whether the non-spherical morphology is recovered or the droplet remains stable. If the droplet remains stable, then the effect of salt concentration on the inter-chain contacts (Fig. 6) could be assessed without potentially confounding factors from different dense phase morphologies.

      1b) The author shows time-series or distributions of an observable that reports on the dynamics of the proteins in the non-spherical droplet (e.g. Rg, mean square displacement, residue-residue contacts) and/or of an observable that reports on the dynamics of the droplet shape (e.g. the x-, y-, and z-components of the gyration tensor).

      1c) Additionally, independent replicas of droplet formation for each condition and parameter set would be ideal, but we realize that this would be expensive in computational resources and may be infeasible.

      2)<br /> “As λ increases, the volume of the dense phase increases (and condensed phase concentration decreases accordingly) until the system is not capable of forming a dense phase (λ >1.03)”: From Fig. 1 it seems that the rate of cluster formation decreases as λ increases. Is it not then possible that droplet formation at λ>1.03 is stable at equilibrium, but occurs on time-scales greater than those tested in the simulations? To support the statement that no droplets are stable at λ>1.03, we suggest that the author runs simulations with a higher value of λ starting from the structure of the spherical droplet (formed with λ=1.0 and no salt) to observe whether the droplet is dissolved or remains stable.

      3)<br /> Figure 3: The use of the radial distribution does not seem ideal for the droplets that have a non-spherical morphology, as certain distances will report on an average over the dense and dilute phases. This should at a minimum be discussed.

      4)<br /> Table 1: It seems that the discrepancy between the sigmoidal fit approach and the surface reconstruction approach increases with λ, possibly due to sensitivity to the shape of the droplets, illustrating that there might be significant uncertainty associated with the reported dense phase volumes. We think it would be useful to have an error estimate for the reported dense phase volumes (e.g. an error over volume calculation approaches and/or over different probe sizes).

      5)<br /> Table 2 and Fig. 4: We suggest that the author more explicitly states which experimental data was used for comparison with the simulations in Fig. 4. We also suggest a more direct comparison with experimental data points where possible (e.g. by showing the experimental values of csat as a function of NaCl concentration).

      6)<br /> “We used the “tiny” bead type (TQ1) both for Na+ and Cl- ions”: The author should clarify the reason for and possible effects of choosing the TQ1 bead type, as TQ5 is, we think, the standard bead type for Na+ and Cl- ions in Martini 3.

      7)<br /> We suggest that the author, where possible, reports error estimates for the various observables, for example from block error analysis and/or repeated simulations.

      8)<br /> It would be useful to include a discussion of the effects of simulation convergence and simulation starting configurations on the reported results.

      9)<br /> A discussion of the potential differences in the effect of non-bonded cut-offs in the dilute and dense phase would also be useful.

      10)<br /> It would be very useful if the inputs/settings (including starting configurations) used for simulation and code for analysis were available.

      We also have the following suggestions for minor changes to the manuscript:

      1)<br /> “We kept the protein-protein interactions unmodified (and no additional elastic backbone constraints were applied)”: The author should clarify whether this includes assignment of secondary structure and/or side chain angle and dihedral restraints (ss and scfix in Martinize).

      2)<br /> “All simulations were performed using GROMACS MD engine (version 2016.3).”: Error in references.

      3)<br /> In the Cluster Formation Analysis section: We suggest that the author cites the specific package used (e.g. SciPy).

      4)<br /> Fig. 2: There are small red dots on the droplets, which should either be explained in the figure text or removed.

      5)<br /> Fig. 3: It would be useful for the reader if the NaCl concentration was labelled at the top of each column. Additionally, the radial distribution of the ion concentration is shown as two separate rows, which we assume corresponds to Na+ and Cl- ions. This should be clearly labelled.

      6)<br /> “We found the largest water fraction For the ionic species…”: Typo?

      7)<br /> Fig. 4: Depending on how the plot is updated with more details on the experiments, perhaps the range shown on the y-axis could be made smaller.

      8)<br /> Fig. 5: May be clearer with a colourmap with three colours, as in figure 6.

    1. On 2022-11-23 20:05:03, user Yuan Hu wrote:

      It is interesting to see Zinc coordinating Cysteines on RNF126 and also RNF4 can be covalently targeted. I wonder whether it is 1:1 stoichiometric ratio between protein and zinc. Does C32 have enough Zinc to coordinate with, or it is due to the unoccupied residue effect?

    1. On 2022-11-23 19:46:10, user Ashley Albright wrote:

      Review coordinated as part of an assignment for San Francisco State University undergraduate and master’s students in BIOL/CHEM 667 - Optical Engineering for the Biological Sciences taught by Dr. Ashley Albright, Dr. Mark Chan, and Dr. Ray Esquerra in Fall 2022.

      This review reflects comments provided by the following students (in alphabetical order by last name): Michelle Chong, Eleazar DeAlmeida, J. Carlos Gomez, Deannakayte Marucut, Liz Mathiasen, Raquel Reyes, Karina Rodriguez, Abdellah Shraim, Matt Suntay, Yaqoub Yusuf

      Comments and review compiled by Dr. Ashley Albright

      To understand the role of kinases in the origins of multicellularity and animal development, the authors conducted a small molecule screen of kinase inhibitors in choanoflagellates, the closest living relatives of animals. Genetic tools in choanoflagellates, as well as other emerging model systems are limited. This approach using small molecule inhibitors rather than genetic tools to screen for phenotypic changes will not only be invaluable for choanoflagellate researchers, but researchers using other organisms as well. The authors found that sorafenib, a p38 kinase inhibitor, inhibits choanoflagellate cell proliferation. Furthermore, S. rosetta p38 is activated by environmental stressors (heat and oxidative stress), suggesting a conserved role for p38 kinases. Ultimately, the results of this study show that small molecule screens are a valuable approach to understand biology in emerging model systems, especially when available tools are limited.

      Students in our course come from a variety of scientific backgrounds, and many are new to reading scientific papers. Therefore, our comments focus on readability and significance more so than methodology and strength of results.

      Comments:

      1. While we appreciate the conciseness of the introduction, we felt that the authors could provide additional information on the background of choanoflagellate research and why they are used as a model organism. The authors do mention, “Choanoflagellates possess homologs of diverse animal kinases (Figure S1) (9–11) and due to their phylogenetic placement are relevant for reconstructing the ancestral functions of animal cell signaling proteins (12, 13).” However, we believe the connection between choanoflagellate research and the origins of multicellularity could be more explicit.

      2. Similar to the comment above, we felt that the authors could provide more background information on small molecule phenotypic screens and limited genetic tools. We understand the benefit that they provide in cases where genetic tools are limited, but how are the tools limited in choanoflagellates exactly? We are also curious about other small molecule screens. Why were kinases targeted in this case?

      3. The results were described in great detail, making interpretations of the data easier for people outside of the field; however, we feel that the connection between results and conclusion in some cases were less clear. As an example, the authors state: “These findings showed that glesatinib disrupts both cell proliferation and tyrosine kinase signaling. Together these observations provide independent support for the hypothesis that kinase signaling regulates cell proliferation in choanoflagellates.” How exactly does tyrosine kinase signaling relate to cell proliferation compared to other kinase signaling?

      4. The authors report that effects of sorafenib on cell proliferation are dose-dependent. We would like to know if this response is density-dependent as well.

      Other Thoughts and Questions:

      1. Would this approach yield similar results in other species of choanoflagellates? Other protists? Basal animals? Plants?

      2. We would like to see these experiments repeated for other hit compounds.

      3. The authors mention that this approach is normally used in drug discovery, how does what was discovered through this screen relate to human disease?

    1. On 2022-11-23 17:43:16, user Camilla and Neftaly wrote:

      Comments

      This article is one of the first studies investigating phosphates in M. oryzae. The authors identify a family of 6 type 2c protein phosphates in the blast fungus by homology with orthologues from S. cerevisae and C. albicans. They have generated two gene deletion strains of the family, PTC1 and PTC2. These mutants have been suggested to have role in cell-wall integrity which could occur through the negative regulation of MAPKs, Pmk1, Osm1 and Mps1. Additionally, PTC1 is shown to associate with the protein adaptor Nbp2 which might mediate the interaction with the MAPKs.

      Also, they localise some members of this family at different developmental stages of rice blast disease, showing PTCs accumulate at different sub cellular compartments. This suggests the different roles of these proteins during rice blast disease.

      The authors propose Ptc1 and Ptc2 regulate major MAPK signalling pathways in the blast fungus, such as Pmk1 which is a major regulator of pathogenicity. However, there is no evidence/discussion related to pathogenicity for Ptc1 and Ptc2 null mutants. Furthermore, the article lacks of experimental data from the major conclusions and there are gaps in addressing the rational of the narrative.

      Figure 1

      Phylogenetic tree is needed to dissect the family of PCTs in M. oryzae. It would be good to include orthologues of S. cerevisae, C. albincans and other filamentous fungi in this analysis.

      Figure 2

      q-RT-PCR analysis in appressorium samples during development should be added to support the conclusion that PTCs are important at this stage of infection. <br /> q-RT-PCR results alone are not enough to support the idea of PTC1 and PTC2 regulate stress responses. <br /> The title of figure 2 should be more specific to the result because ionic stress is the only one affecting the expression of PTCs.<br /> MoPTC7 shows to be significant in the graphs but this is not discussed.<br /> Authors did not specify why they exclude MoPTC8 from these experiments.<br /> Colours in the graphs are difficult to differentiate.

      From these results, authors do not justify why they only follow up on PTC1 and PTC2.

      Figure 3

      Cell-wall integrity was only studied by measuring the colony growth rate. Microscopy using cell wall markers in both null mutant and wild type strains could help to investigate their role as cell wall determinants.<br /> Complemented version of the mutants do not seem to restore the phenotype in the data presented, therefore pictures are not representative of the results.

      Figure 4

      Expression of Pmk1, Osm1 and Mps1 in analysed in mycelium. However, because the role of these MAPK is primarily during appressorium morphogenesis, it would be better to analyse tissue extracted from different appressorium development stages.<br /> To show consistency between blots, authors could have included anti-actin antiserum for Mps1 and Pmk1. Additionally, an antibody to analyse endogenous levels of Oms1 is needed. Authors could have also included null mutants of Pmk1, Osm1 and Mps1 as control.

      Figure 5

      The title and conclusions are not supported with the shown data because Pmk1 and Osm1 do not directly interact with PTC1.<br /> The authors do not discuss why PTC2 is not analysed for interaction assays.<br /> Several controls are missing in this figure: protein expression levels in Y2H experiments should be validated by western blot analysis, internal biological positive and negative interaction controls should be included (apart from the technical controls of the system, pGBKT7-53/pGADT7-T and pGBKT7-Lam/pGADT7-T).<br /> Positive and negative controls for figures E and F are needed, just like it is done for figure D.

      Figure 6

      The final microscopy includes various PTCs, excluding PTC7 and PTC8 with no further explanation. Authors might consider to show this results at the beginning of the article when introducing the family of PTCs in M. Oryzae.<br /> Typo PTC3 instead of PTC2 in figure legend.

      Figure 7

      The proposed model is visually complex to understand, PTC2 role is unclear in the network and there is not enough evidence to say PTC2 negatively regulated Pmk1 and Msp1. Data is missing for interactions.

    1. On 2022-11-23 12:59:20, user David Roe wrote:

      You state "There is no public sequencing data with annotated KIR information".<br /> This paper might be helpful. It describes how to obtain ground truth for any data set with PacBio HIFI data. It even gives an example from a 1KG/HPRC individual.<br /> 1. Roe D. Efficient Sequencing, Assembly, and Annotation of Human KIR Haplotypes. Frontiers in Immunology. 2020;11:11.

    2. On 2022-11-23 12:54:23, user David Roe wrote:

      PING isn't the only algorithm for KIR genotyping. It would be a benefit to everyone if you could compare your results with that from this[1] and maybe other algorithms.

      1. Sakaue S, Hosomichi K, Hirata J, Nakaoka H, Yamazaki K, Yawata M, et al. Decoding the diversity of killer immunoglobulin-like receptors by deep sequencing and a high-resolution imputation method. Cell Genomics. 2022 Mar;2(3):100101.
    3. On 2022-11-17 22:35:56, user David Roe wrote:

      I have a few questions and suggestions regarding the KIR portion.

      I don't see the ground truth genotypes for the KIR synthetic data or the WGS. Could/Would you include them or point to them?

      I also don't see the actual predictions. Have they been released? If so, can you include them or point to them? I see "KIR_Group_x_final_genotype.tsv" files on github, but their contents aren't easily understandable. I don't see anything for the other types of calls.

      Would you point to the location of the exact HIFI HPRC reads/individual that were used? They aren't easy to find from the HPRC and 1KG IDs.

      The synthetic KIR data was created with Mason. Can you give more detail about how that was used? I can't find the command or parameters from the Methods that matches the web page and github pages. The Methods don't give the name of the command, and the arguments that are given in the Methods don't appear in the mason2 READMEs or repository.

      The Methods state the synthetic genotypes were generated with six to nine random genes and two random alleles for each. Why not use something more realistic, like pairs of previously-reported haplotypes or genotypes?

      To find ground truth for the real KIR data, you wrote software to "[t]o identify the KIR alleles on the phased genomes". Where is that software? How was that software evaluated?<br /> For samples such as HPRC that have PacBio HiFi data, you could use the annotate workflow from kass[1] to annotate haplotypes and assemblies.

      What happens to the KIR genotype calls when a real novel exon variant is encountered in the reads?

      If reads are multi-mapped, and abundances are summed within the same allele series, won't that bias the calls towards reference exon alleles with more reference intronic variation? Often times, these alleles (allele series) are also the most frequent, which might cause other problems.

      1. https://github.com/droeatum...
    1. On 2022-11-21 16:17:13, user Heinz Ruffner wrote:

      This pre-print is now in press in the American Journal of Pathology, and a link will be forthcoming.<br /> Note: Corrected spelling of author "Luigi Terracciano".

    1. On 2022-11-19 13:38:52, user Mahad AZAM wrote:

      Though the work has been conducted on quite basic aspects of hematology, however such validations are a need of time for resource poor countries.

    1. On 2022-11-18 16:15:49, user Theresa Suckert wrote:

      Interesting approach! I know this is more a physics paper, but it would be very helpful if the authors provided more details on the biological experiments. I would be especially interested in the concentration of the SPY650-DNA probe, the incubation time, and if the probe was left on during imaging. In addition, the exact imaging parameters (e.g. laser power, illumination time) are ideally reported as well (see also: https://www.nature.com/arti...

    1. On 2022-11-17 20:19:36, user Rohit Farmer wrote:

      This paper describes HDStIM. HDStIM is a method for identifying responses to experimental stimulation in mass or flow cytometry that uses a high dimensional analysis of measured parameters and can be performed with an end-to-end unsupervised approach.

      Check out ColabHDStIM an easy to use web-like-interface to test/run HDStIM: https://github.com/rohitfar...

    1. On 2022-11-17 13:00:27, user Diego di Bernardo wrote:

      The authors introduce the "percentage replicating" metric to chek the reproducibility of transcriptional responses to drug treatment. In Sirci et al, NPJ Systems Biology, 2017 (https://www.nature.com/arti... in Figure 3, a very similar concept was introduced and was named "Transcriptional Variabiliy".

    1. On 2022-11-15 15:46:13, user Leonid Sazanov wrote:

      From Prof. Leonid Sazanov, IST Austria.

      This preprint describes the first structures of mitochondrial complex I from Drosophila melanogaster (Dm). The work is done carefully technically and is a valuable addition to the current set of complex I structures from various species, previously lacking representatives from insects or Protostomia clade in general. Complex I from Protostomia, in contrast to that Deuterostomia including mammals, appears to lack so-called “deactive” state, which is important for mechanistic discussion. In this study authors find that apo (i.e. in the absence of any substrates or turnover) Dm complex I (DmCI) can adopt two main conformations, resembling so-called “open” and “closed” states seen previously with other species. Uniquely, one of DmCI states is characterized by the ordered N-terminal helix of the accessory NDUFS4 (18 kDa) subunit, which wedges between the peripheral (PA) and membrane (MA) arms. This was not seen in other structures and appears to be a specific feature of Dm and closely related species. Authors suggest that the helix may temporarily “lock” this DmCI conformation. However, it may instead just reflect the ordering of a particular structural element in one of complex I states, as seen for different parts of complex I in other species.

      Overall, the new DmCI structures are consistent with our recent mechanistic proposals [1, 2] and complement the emerging picture. However, the discussion of the two states in this work is very confusing in my opinion, which is why I wrote this comment.

      It is surprising that the DmCI states were labelled as they were (locked open and closed) while it is clear that it should be other way round (locked closed and open). DmCI states were assigned by authors on the basis of PA-MA angle if complex I is viewed sideways, as we did for ovine complex I originally [1, 3]. In what authors called here the closed state this angle is very slightly smaller than in the other state, thus the assignment. However, it is clear from Fig. 4- suppl. 2A and movies that the main difference between the DmCI states is the rotation of PA, not the closing/opening of PA-MA angle.

      As we noted in our latest paper [2], the PA-MA angle is not a good indication of open or closed state – PA tilts in Ovine but mainly twists/rotates in E. coli. In E. coli the states are related by PA clockwise rotation (when looked from PA tip) when going from closed to open state. In the recent paper on Chaetonium complex I [4] – form 1 is clearly open state, form 2 is clearly closed (in our updated nomenclature as below). They are related by the PA clockwise rotation (when looked from PA tip) going closed-to-open (2-to-1). I.e. it is the same overall change as in E. coli.

      Therefore open and closed states should be attributed not by PA-MA angle, as we noted [2], but on the basis of:<br /> 
Open state - OPEN Q cavity (mostly disordered key loops, especially ND3) and pi-bulge in ND6 (as well as flipped out into lipid ND1 Y156 in E. coli / Y142 ovine).<br /> 
Closed state – CLOSED Q cavity (mostly ordered key loops, especially ND3), no pi-bulge in ND6 (as well as flipped in into E-channel ND1 Y156 in E. coli / Y142 ovine).

      So what was called locked open state in DmCI in fact clearly corresponds to closed state in our nomenclature (ND3 loop ordered, no pi-bulge). What was called closed state in DmCI is in fact open state (ND3 loop disordered, pi-bulge present). The only difference with E. coli open state is that NuoC beta1-2 loop is retracted in DmCI but is inserted into Q cavity in E. coli (incidentally, some of labels describing E. coli features are wrong in Fig.5-suppl1BC). However, in Ovine this loop is disordered in open state, so its conformation is not absolutely defined by the state (unlike ND3 loop and pi-bulge). Another difference is that in DmCI open state PSST loop is not flipped as in Ovine. However, in E. coli this loop does not flip either, so again its conformation is not absolutely defined by the state. Considering the re-assignment of states as we suggest then the PA rotation going closed-to-open is in the same direction in DmCI as in E. coli. A similar rotation was also noted in another recent manuscript on DmCI [5].

      In summary, after re-assignment it is clear that main features defining closed and open states (in our nomenclature) in DmCI are the same as in Ovine, E. coli and Chaetonium. It is possible that under turnover conditions in Drosophila even more of the features will become consistent (such as NuoC beta1-2 loop insertion in open state), however the assignment is already unambiguous.

      So to avoid confusing readers about what is open and what is closed state it would be great if authors renamed the classes according to our latest nomenclature as above.

      One potential question is that in parallel paper [5] (otherwise mostly consistent with this study) in Dm2 state (open state in our nomenclature) ND3 loop apparently remains ordered. However, Agip et al. did only global 3D classification on the entire complex I molecule which, according to our experience, is unlikely to fully separate classes - then any Dm1 (closed) state particles still present in Dm2 class would easily show ND3 loop density – we have seen this a lot when classification in not converged. Additionally, the resolution of Dm2 class is quite low.

      Considering authors comment here on the poor density of some regions in our Ovine deactive structures, I need to note that these data were post-processed with high B-factor suitable for the main bulk density. ND5-HL, TMH16ND5, NDUFA11 are indeed not well defined but are still present as we can re-activate this prep. However, if one applies blurring B-factor of about 100 in COOT (or filter maps to about 4A) to the deposited densities of deactive states, then except for open1, all other states (especially open3 and open4) show very clearly relocated ND6 TM4 density together with loop blocking PA/MA movements. It is clear that after full deactivation ND5-HL, TMH16ND5, NDUFA11 become flexible but still associated with complex, while ND6 TM4 together with its loop relocates. <br /> <br /> Authors also mention in discussion that in Yarrowia both open and closed states were observed. However, as we discussed in the SI of our paper [2], only one conformational state was observed under turnover conditions in Yarrowia. It resembles the open state of Ovine CI – pi-bulge present, ND3 loop disordered, etc. The reported conformational changes in Yarrowia CI [6] may in fact reflect the deactive to open state transition, and the closed state remains to be properly classified out.

      It is also a bit strange for authors to criticize our E. coli paper [2] on the basis on Kolata/Efremov paper [7] – we have clearly shown that the resting E. coli state is promoted by DDM detergent (which was used in [7]) and this is why we took a lot of care to fully purify enzyme in milder LMNG detergent, with clear data showing it is stable in LMNG. Further, air-to-water interface argument from authors is not applicable to our data – grids were made with continuous carbon layer support, so protein is never exposed to air during blotting/freezing. <br /> <br /> Authors also state that “thermophilic yeast Chaetonium thermophilum CI, which is found in multiple resting states, none of which corresponding to the open state seen in other species” [4] However, Chaetonium two states correspond very closely to Ovine open and closed states, as authors themselves state in [4]. So the point of the statement above is not clear.

      It seems like in the discussion the authors try hard to suggest alternatives to our mechanism, even though there are no real factual arguments here. One particular argument is that open states of complex I could be all deactive (as still suggested for mammals [5]) and do not participate in the catalytic cycle, with only closed state being part of catalytic cycle. However, all the new emerging data from species which do not have deactive state, i.e. E. coli [2], Chaetonium [4] and even including current Drosophila structures point out that closed-to-open transitions as part of catalytic cycle are universal.

      Overall, I hope that the discrepancies above will be corrected in the final paper.

      References

      1. Kampjut, D. and L.A. Sazanov, The coupling mechanism of mammalian respiratory complex I. Science, 2020. 370(6516).
      2. Kravchuk, V., et al., A universal coupling mechanism of respiratory complex I. Nature, 2022. 609(7928): p. 808-814.
      3. Fiedorczuk, K., et al., Atomic structure of the entire mammalian mitochondrial complex I. Nature, 2016. 538(7625): p. 406-410.
      4. Laube, E., et al., Conformational changes in mitochondrial complex I from the thermophilic eukaryote Chaetomium thermophilum. bioRxiv, 2022: p. 2022.05.13.491814.
      5. Agip, A.-N.A., et al., Cryo-EM structures of mitochondrial respiratory complex I from Drosophila melanogaster. bioRxiv, 2022: p. 2022.11.01.514700.
      6. Parey, K., et al., High-resolution structure and dynamics of mitochondrial complex I-Insights into the proton pumping mechanism. Sci Adv, 2021. 7(46): p. eabj3221.
      7. Kolata, P. and R.G. Efremov, Structure of Escherichia coli respiratory complex I reconstituted into lipid nanodiscs reveals an uncoupled conformation. Elife, 2021. 10.
    1. On 2022-11-15 13:06:04, user Babak Momeni wrote:

      Even though we stand by the accuracy of the data presented in this preprint, in light of new findings in our research, we are no longer confident in our interpretation of the data as presented in this manuscript. Even though our interpretation still holds phenomenologically, we suspect that the mechanisms are different from what we had hypothesized. We advise caution for readers of this preprint and encourage them to reach their own conclusion.

    1. On 2022-11-15 09:24:23, user Sweta Jha wrote:

      Hi,<br /> Good article. Just wondering If birds do not have some VEGFs, what about the CAM assay that has been used in many papers to study angiogenesis/lymphangiogenesis?

    1. On 2022-11-14 03:51:48, user Fengfeng Zheng wrote:

      The preprint has been recently published in the journal Geochimica et Cosmochimica Acta.<br /> Chen, Y., Zheng, F., Yang, H., Yang, W., Wu, R., Liu, X., Liang, H., Chen, H., Pei, H., Zhang, C., Pancost, R.D., Zeng, Z., 2022. The production of diverse brGDGTs by an Acidobacterium providing a physiological basis for paleoclimate proxies. Geochim. Cosmochim. Acta 337, 155–165. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.g...

    1. On 2022-11-13 15:18:53, user Hong wrote:

      Thanks for the interesting paper. RE contact head fitting, given that L*K is ~100s, I'm wondering whether the training size 20 is too small and the deviation 0.0028 is due to overfitting? Also in github it seam the head is co-trained within the NN, rather than separately trained using sklearn?

    1. On 2022-11-13 13:39:43, user Ed Green wrote:

      Interesting paper - we see the same types of read directionality errors in our nanopore plasmid sequencing. In some of the cases we looked at we see dcm methylation on the bases that are called incorrectly, suggesting that playing around with the basecaller might also help get the reads right 'first time'

    1. On 2022-11-12 20:17:52, user smd555 smd555 wrote:

      Dear authors! I have a question about Bk-II population and its HG component. Did you try for Bk-II simple f3-test for admixture using Latvian_BA or Estonian_BA as the first potential source and EEF as the second source? And the same for WHG and Iron Gates as the second source? Is this f3 statistics negative?<br /> Also did you include Latvian_BA or Estonian_BA into qpadm calculation?

      Best regards

    1. On 2022-11-11 10:20:50, user Giorgio Bergamini wrote:

      Great paper, and very interesting tool! The Github link does not look working on my side. Do you know when it might become available? Thanks

    1. On 2022-11-11 08:50:10, user Pranas Grigaitis wrote:

      Dear Authors,

      First of all, congratulations on your work! It is a comprehensive and very data-rich study you have performed, and definitely a valuable dataset for the community when data are all published. We have been discussing the preprint in the lab, and were very intrigued about your conclusion that S. cerevisiae runs aerobic glycolysis as means of being primed for anaerobic growth. We recently have explored growth strategies of another Crabtree-positive yeast, the fission yeast Schizosaccharomyces pombe, and I believe its physiology serves as a counterargument to your conclusion. Wild-type S. pombe anaerobically halts growth almost completely (e.g. Heslot 1970 J Bacteriol), and/or induce sexual development, a signature of severe stress. Aerobically, it has a clear disadvantage over S. cerevisiae: S. pombe grows ~25% slower in aerobic batch cultures than S.c. (specific growth rate of 0.3/h vs 0.4/h in S.c.) with a high specific fermentation flux (RQ of ~6), and switches to respirofermentation in glucose-limited chemostats earlier than S.c. (mu_crit/mu_max 0.53 vs 0.7 in WT S.c.). This is all even despite the fact S.p. has a higher P/O ratio (1.28 vs 1.0 in S.c.). So if intense fermentation is adaptation for anaerobic growth, why doesn't S. pombe go fully respiratory to outcompete other bugs in aerobic environments? I would be delighted if you could comment more on this.

      Thanks in advance!<br /> Pranas

    1. On 2022-11-11 05:46:15, user Jonathan Woodward wrote:

      Thank you very much for your work in trying to reproduce our experimental observations. We have now had time to prepare a detailed response to your study. You can find it on the bioRxiv at the following link:

      https://www.biorxiv.org/con...

      Jonathan R. Woodward and Noboru Ikeya

    1. On 2022-11-10 12:05:31, user Mattia Deluigi wrote:

      Very interesting study!

      A few suggestions:

      • In the current preprint, it is stated that “Visual inspection of the NTSR1-H4X:SR142948A complex, and two structures with the chemically-related antagonist SR48692 (NTSR1-H4X:SR48692 and<br /> NTSR1-H4bmX:SR48692), reveals that the M250(5.51) sidechain points away from the TM bundle...”.

      However, this is not entirely correct. In the NTSR1-H4bmX:SR48692<br /> complex, M250 points towards, not away from, the TM bundle.

      • In Figures 3F and S8G,H, F347(7.31) is labeled incorrectly and should be F346(7.30). Y346(7.30) is also labeled incorrectly and should be Y347(7.31).

      • It is stated that “Addition of NT8-13 or SR142948A induces sizeable upfield chemical shift perturbations (Figure 3A).”

      However, the next sentence states that the peaks are approximately aligned, which I don’t understand: “The positions of the M2044.60 peak in the apo, NT8-13 and SR142948A bound forms are approximately aligned, despite the different nature of the ligands”.

      Do you actually mean the position of the M204 side chain in the crystal<br /> structures?

      • It is also stated: “Thus, it suggests the main effect of the ligands on M204(4.60) chemical shifts is through the modulation of the contacts with other receptor residues, rather than the direct effect of the ligand on the methionine methyl group.”

      Don’t you think the ligands could indeed have a strong direct effect?<br /> The apo pocket is obviously empty, whereas in the NT8-13 and SR14 complexes, M204 is rather close to the isobutyl and adamantyl moieties of the ligands, respectively.

      All the best,

      Mattia

    1. On 2022-11-09 20:23:10, user Black Wang wrote:

      Can the authors explain why DFP treatment does not induce HIF1 stabilization in Fig. 1A, 1C, which is very odd? Also, FBXL4 KO clone 1D4 has much less BNIP3 expression than clone 2G10 while both KO clones have similar expression level of NIX.

    1. On 2022-11-09 09:15:00, user Hauser Kronenberg DZNE wrote:

      This work is an important resource and characterisation of culture media conditions for anyone doing in vitro iPSC-microglial monocultures.

      1. We were curious if the authors had performed immunocytochemistry for some of the most common microglial markers (eg. Pu.1, IBA1, Tmem119, or similar) with the different media conditions?

      2. Did the authors also ever test the effect of the frequently used poly-D-Lysine or poly-L-ornithin coatings for example? Or play/adjust the density of plated cells?

      3. Unfortunately it wasn’t quite clear to us, if one or all iPSCs lines were used in each round of differentiation and which line is represented in the brightfield images.

    1. On 2022-11-07 21:26:11, user Debra Tumbula Hansen wrote:

      This is an exciting result that may impact the development of therapeutics. Since the results are largely based on antibodies that are specific to each NPR1, NPR2 and NPR3, and since these three proteins have some sequence homology, then some additional information on the antibodies may be needed to robustly confirm this intriguing conclusion. Are the NPR antibodies monoclonal, and what region of each protein is recognized? What would also help would be to show the full lane for each blot, ideally including size markers. The anti-NPR3 blots appear to cut off where the anti-NPR1 signal runs, and vice-versa. Each antibody could be validated for recognition of its specific target, and lack of recognition of the other two homologous targets. The validations are needed only for whichever of the three methods (western, immunoprecipitation, or immunohistochemistry) was used for that antibody. It would also help to explain if the p62 protein is a receptor protein and to confirm that p62 is in the cell membrane fraction, like NPR1, NPR2 and NPR3. Also, the dimer is one possible form of the NPR enzymes. The few studies that have been done with purified, active mammalian NPR have identified a tetramer for NPR1 (PMID: 1657900 & 35821229). Eventually, it will be interesting to see if NPR3 forms a heterotetramer or a heterodimer with NPR1 and NPR2. Either form is consistent with the results of this preprint.

    1. On 2022-11-07 20:26:55, user George Orwell wrote:

      This sentence is ambiguous enough it seems nonsensical: "In addition, they retain activity against monoclonal antibody resistance mutations conferring reduced susceptibility to previously authorized mAbs."<br /> I think I know what the authors are trying to say and not say.<br /> Against BA.2 (the latest, most common variant tested), Sotrovimab (VIR-7831) and VIR-7831 do NOT demonstrate potent in vitro and in vivo activity: Table 1 shows IC50 and IC90 values for Sotrovimab need to be about a thousand and ten thousand times higher than against the Wuhan strain. But everything is being done to avoid making that clear.

      To call the oldest strain "wild-type" is inappropriate, as the preponderance of the evidence indicates a lab origin, so there is no wild type.

    1. On 2022-11-07 14:23:16, user Erin Schuman wrote:

      Erin Schuman<br /> Jan 7, 2021<br /> While initial reports argued that emetine was required to stabilize the interaction of puromycylated peptides with ribosomes, some recent studies of local protein synthesis via the puromycylation method relied on treatment with puromycin alone for ~5–10 min, with the implication that detected nascent proteins do not appreciably diffuse away from their site of synthesis (i.e. ribosome) within the treatment time (Colombo et al., 1965; tom Dieck et al., 2015; Morisaki et al., 2016). To determine how far a nascent protein might diffuse on these timescales (i.e. the spatial resolution of the method), we calculated the expected displacement as a function of time, based on the previously measured diffusion coefficient of GFP in the cytosol (Di Rienzo et al., 2014; Figure 5). This calculation depends on the dimensionality of space in which the molecule is confined. However, even in the most limiting case of one-dimensional diffusion—approximating movement along a very narrow neural projection—a protein is expected to diffuse ~100 µm in less than 1 min. This distance is large compared to both the scale of the relevant structures to which protein synthesis was localized in neurons (tens of microns) (tom Dieck et al., 2015; Biever et al., 2020), and to the diameter of HeLa cells (~20 microns) (Borle, 1969), in which the method was demonstrated (David et al., 2012). Thus, limiting puromycin treatment time to a few minutes does not ensure that nascent proteins remain confined to the subcellular region in which they are synthesized.<br /> More<br /> Using Green Fluorescent Protein (GFP) diffusion in CHO cells as a model for endogenous protein diffusion is not the most appropriate. In non-native cells, the diffusion of GFP is influenced by molecular crowding of its environment, as it likely does not have any abundant endogenous protein interaction partners (e.g. aequorin). For example, the GFP diffusion value cited by Enam et al. in Figure 5, (dark green line in our linked Figure), derived from studies in CHO cells, is much faster than the GFP diffusion values obtained in neuronal compartments like axons (light green line in Figure) (Reshetniak et al., 2020). In fact, and even better, there are direct data available on the diffusion of puromycylated peptides in a neuron-derived cell line (Ge et al., 2016) (purple line in Figure). The diffusion of puromycylated peptides measured directly in Ge et al., is ~ 10-fold slower than the diffusion of cytosolic GFP in CHO cells shown in Figure 5 of Enam et al. In addition, many groups have directly studied the diffusion of neuronal proteins in mature neurons- and again found diffusion values that are much slower than cytosolic GFP in the same subcellular compartment (grey line in Figure). As such, we believe that puromycin, when used appropriately, can be used in neurons to ascertain or validate the location of nascent proteins in or near the compartment (axonal or dendritic) in which they were synthesized. Practically speaking, measurements should be made in distal processes (e.g. > 50 microns from the cell body) following short-labelling times (~ 5 min) using a low (~2 – 5 uM) puromycin concentration– these are the typical parameters used by most experimenters, including our group.

      link to Figure: https://schumanlab.github.i...

      Erin Schuman, Paul Donlin-Asp, Susanne tom Dieck

      References.

      Enam et al., 2020. Puromycin reactivity does not accurately localize translation at the subcellular level eLife. DOI: 10.7554/eLife.60303

      Ge et al., 2016. Puromycin analogs capable of multiplexed imaging and profiling of protein synthesis and dynamics in live cells and neurons. Angewandte Chemie. doi.org/10.1002/anie.201511030

      Reshetniak et al., 2020. A comparative analysis of the mobility of 45 proteins in the synaptic bouton. The EMBO Journal. doi.org/10.15252/embj.20201...

    1. On 2022-11-05 15:22:58, user Frank wrote:

      The days after vaccination for the bivalent cohort is closer than the two monovalent shot cohort, and so antibody levels may be biased higher for the bivalent group due to temporal features.

      "two monovalent boosters (70-100 days after vaccination), or the bivalent booster (16-42 days after vaccination)"

    2. On 2022-11-03 02:07:05, user Nathan Pearson wrote:

      Thanks for so quickly posting these findings for the community.

      Can you clarify (in main text, and perhaps in figure and/or yet unposted supplemental material) how many of the bivalent recipients had been boosted once (or twice) previously with monovalent -- and, ideally, a basic profile of age, sex, etc. among the study cohorts?

      And, of obvious interest, can you report which analogous titer measures differ significantly -between- cohorts (rather than merely within cohorts), including after accounting for multiple testing?

    1. On 2022-11-05 13:23:45, user a rookie wrote:

      I think it would be better to explain more about why you chose albicidin in the Introduction. Because there are lots of compounds that are structurally similar to albicin. I mean, do not multiply entities beyond necessity.

    1. On 2022-11-05 12:34:20, user YotamW Constantini wrote:

      Very nice work. Question regarding the complexity when adding covariates: The design matrix X in the simple case doesn't require regression for β_0 as it is the mean, but adding domains will require regression. Do you think the complexity then would increase cubicly with the number of location and/or number of domains?

    1. On 2022-11-05 08:46:05, user Heather Etchevers wrote:

      Very convincing, careful enhancer analyses.

      For the record, my collaborators and I published the following some time ago (J Med Genet 2006;43:211–217. doi: 10.1136/jmg.2005.036160):

      "Presumably, the CHD7 protein plays an important role in chromatin remodelling during early development and allows a level of epigenetic control over target genes expressed in mesenchymal cells derived from the cephalic neural crest. We analysed the expression pattern of the CHD7 gene during early human development. CHD7 is widely expressed in the undifferentiated neuroepithelium and in mesenchyme of neural crest origin. Towards the end of the first trimester it is expressed in dorsal root ganglia, cranial nerves/ganglia, and auditory, pituitary, and nasal tissues as well as in the neural retina."

      The involvement of some of the transcription factors of interest in the present work (SOX10, FOXD3, CHD7), were also established in human neural crest and other embryonic tissues in this early transcriptomics paper back in 2008 (Hum Mol Genet. doi: 10.1093/hmg/ddn235):

      "We finally examined the spatial expression of a selection of genes identified by SAGE using in situ hybridization on human embryo sections at C13 (Fig. 4). SOX11 and MAZ code for transcription factors and GJA1 for a critical gap junction protein; other genes we studied (not shown) include the transcription factors SOX10 (24), ZEB2 (25) and CHD7 (26) and HEYL; the receptors encoded by NOTCH2 and FGFR2; and the cytoskeleton-associated CTNNB1 and MID1 (27). All were expressed in both the neuroepithelium and NCC, with the exception of SOX10, which only postmigratory hNCC appeared to express at C13. (...) As in animals, SOX10 (24) and FOXD3 (Fig. 3) appeared to be more expressed by early postmigratory hNCC than the neural tube."

      Due probably in part to restrictions on the number of references, neither of these contributions had been mentioned in the important basic research published thereafter by Bajpai et al. 2010, Sperry et al. 2014, or your own group's Williams et al. 2019.

      But it may not be too late to recognize that others, too, laid foundations for the community's further insights into the specific impacts of widely important (perhaps not "housekeeping") chromatin modifiers such as CHD7 on vertebrate neural crest lineages in particular.

    1. On 2022-11-05 00:31:14, user René Janssen wrote:

      A very well written paper by experts on this field of bird and insect migration studies.

      What I miss in the discussion is the foraging and migration of bats (mostly nightly, but also by daytime) that could give false signals. I think it would be improve the paper to add some sentence to this problem.

      Again: thanks for the well written paper and great research.

      René Janssen<br /> The Netherlands

    1. On 2022-11-04 01:27:48, user Yuko Munekata wrote:

      I cannot see the Table mentioned in the main text. Could you please tell me where I can find it?<br /> Best Regards,<br /> Yuko Munekata

    1. On 2022-11-04 01:00:24, user E. Castedo Ellerman wrote:

      Wonderful that you have been sharing the code as it is getting developed. You can use a reference more permanent than a github.com URL if you use a SWHID. For instance, your official Sep 10 release has SWHID swh:1:rev:a5523b8abe525c0630308dec31801eafc83133d7<br /> which can be used at archive.softwareheritage.org or any service in the future that supports SWHIDs. Software Heritage has more details on how to cite, badges, etc...

    1. On 2022-11-03 15:59:25, user Donald R. Forsdyke wrote:

      MEANING OF “POLYGENES”

      The study of Xiong et al. “highlights that, in addition to incompatibility factors with large effects, genomically dispersed polygenes are also abundant in creating butterfly reproductive isolation” (1). Regarding polygenes, they cite a 1992 paper of Naveira (2), rather than his 1998 summary of work carried out with Maside (3). They appreciate my drawing this to their attention and have suggested that readers of their preprint paper would appreciate a formal comment. At issue is whether, when genomically dispersed, the term “polygenes” should be interpreted as “many genes,” or something else.

      Pondering why incompatibility factors are so dispersed they write (1):

      “One of our key findings is that many factors of perhaps individually small effects are widely dispersed across autosomes or on the Z chromosome. Consequently, average chromosomal ancestry is often more informative of phenotypes than any particular locus. This pattern is similar to the polygenic threshold model of hybrid incompatibility in Drosophila, where abnormal phenotypes depend more on the total quantity of introgression than where introgression occurs in the genome [41, 42, 43].”

      Their first reference here “[41]” is to Naveira’s 1992 report on polygenic effects causing sterility in male fruit fly hybrids. However, they do not mention his subsequent detailed studies with Maside that were summarized in 1998 (3). These concluded that, rather than genes per se, “it might be only a question of foreign DNA amount.” Thus, “experiments on the nature of these polygenes suggest that the coding potential of their DNA may be irrelevant.”

      The Naviera-Maside hypothesis was cited in a 2000 paper on Haldane's rule (4), but it has been largely overlooked in the literature. There appears to be no discussion of the hypothesis in the paper of Xiong et al. (1), even though the case for it has grown appreciably (5). It is also important in view of their paper's opening remarks on "the sex with the greatest fitness costs." Fitness usually implies genes. However, sterility and fitness do not necessarily go together. A mule is sterile but very fit. So being "fit" is subtle and it may be unwise to imply that a sterile organism is necessarily unfit, especially when that sterility is considered "largely phenomenological." Thus, it is good that Xiong et al. write of "incompatability factors" rather than of "incompatability genes" (1), which implies phenotypes.

      (1) Xiong T, Tarikere S, Rosser N, Li X, Yago M, Mallet J (2022) Diverse genetic architectures on the Z chromosome underlie the two rules of speciation in Papilio butterfly hybrids. BioRxiv: doi.org/10.1101/2022.10.28.... (Oct 30)<br /> (2) Naveira HF (1992) Location of X-linked polygenic effects causing sterility in male hybrids of Drosophila simulans and D. mauritiana. Heredity 68, 211–217.<br /> (3) Naveira HF & Maside XR (1998) The genetics of hybrid male sterility in Drosophila. In: Endless Forms: Species and Speciation. (Howard, DJ & Berlocher, SH, eds.), pp. 330-338. Oxford: Oxford University Press.<br /> (4) Forsdyke DR (2000) Haldane's rule: hybrid sterility affects the heterogametic sex first because sexual differentiation is on the path to species differentiation. J. Theor. Biol. 204, 443-452.<br /> (5) Forsdyke DR (2022) Centenary of Haldane's "rule": why male sterility may be normal, not "idiopathic". J. Genetics 101 (1), 26.

    1. On 2022-11-03 05:01:46, user Anubhav Prakash wrote:

      Dear Author, <br /> Congratulations for this very Interesting paper. I want to further understand two things<br /> 1. Does the down regulation of sox2 expression in the segregating patch, also triggers the expression of some different kind of adhesion molecule to facilitate the segregation? <br /> 2. Probably a little tangential to the paper, does the size of segregating sensory patches are similar in different individuals ? If it is similar, then how do u think that might be regulated. Can also throught as how the segregating patches being (Sox 2 down regulation/ lmx1 expression) positioned in the common sensory regions?

      This paper is very informative. Thank you very much.

      Anubhav Prakash <br /> Graduate student, NCBS (India)

    1. On 2022-11-02 18:28:17, user Paul Robbins wrote:

      I have some concerns about the attribution of many of the gene alterations that were proposed to have resulted from RNA editing. When the changes were evaluated in our tumor samples it appears that multiple changes resulted from incorrect mapping of the sequence reads. For example, the PHF2 variants, which occurred at the first 2 bases of intron 16, corresponded to the first 2 bases of exon 17. These are visible in IGV when soft clipping is turned off, and the first 5 bases that were proposed to be intronic also matched the first 5 bases of exon 17, which is indicative of the problem of mapping RNA-seq reads properly. This was not true of all of the changes, as the G>A changes in NEIL1 mapped to exonic sequences, but we also have transcriptome data from matched normal tissue samples from 1 of our patients where expression of these variants was observed. This is another issue that has not to my knowledge been adequately addressed, as normal tissues express ADAR, indicating that these changes may not be tumor-specific. Finally, there is the issue of the high error rate of reverse transcription, which may not occur equally at all sites. This is a problem that is not easy to resolve, unless these changes are directly probed, which would seem like a good way of potentially validating these changes.

    1. On 2022-11-01 16:18:06, user Joel Boerckel wrote:

      Journal club review of:<br /> Toll-like receptor 4 signaling in osteoblasts is required for load-induced bone formation in mice.<br /> Rajpar et al. bioRxiv 2022<br /> doi.org/10.1101/2022.08.05....

      We reviewed this preprint as a part of Arcadia Science's preprint review initiative. Collated comments follow:

      In this preprint, Rajpar et al. identify a novel role for Toll-like receptor 4 (TLR4) in mechanical load-induced bone accrual. The authors conditionally deleted TLR4 from Ocn-Cre-expressing cells (which primarily target mature osteoblasts and osteocytes). Ocn-conditional TLR4 deletion had negligible effect on baseline bone phenotype, but abrogated the effects of ulnar loading on periosteal and endosteal bone formation in both male and female mice. Prior papers from the lab demonstrated that nerve growth factor (NGF) expression by periosteal cells is upregulated by loading. Here, they show that periosteal NGF expression in loaded bones is reduced by the NF-kB inhibitor, BAY 11-7082, and that loading increases the number of TLR4+ periosteal cells in WT mice. Complementary in vitro experiments in MC3T3 cells and primary osteoblasts, showed that both NFkB and TLR4 inhibition abrogated the increase in NGF expression induced by in vitro mechanical stimulation (by fluid shear stress). Finally, the authors use bulk RNA seq to compare the transcriptomic profiles of loaded or non-loaded limbs in TLR4 knockouts and wildtype mice. <br /> Overall, these new data are exciting and implicate a novel role for a classic inflammatory signaling cascade in bone mechanoadaptation. However, we found that the structure of the paper, written with NGF as the starting point, is challenging to follow for naïve readers unfamiliar with the prior NGF studies and obscures the key finding (viz., TLR4). The authors could adapt the flow described above to make it an easier read and to emphasize the novelty and impact.

      Several experiments in the paper feature insufficient sample size or missing data, whose addition would improve the strength of the conclusions that can be made.

      Specific comments:<br /> 1. Immunostaining in Fig 1 shows NGF:eGFP expression in the periosteum. This is qualitative; it would be better to quantify the number of eGFP+ cells and show this as a percentage of the total number of cells in the region of interest, for both loaded and non-loaded bones. While built on prior results, display and quantification of both loaded and non-loaded bones is important to demonstration the extent to which the BAY inhibitor reduces NGF expression to non-loaded baseline levels.<br /> 2. The qPCR data in Fig 1 C-F are not adequately powered. A minimum of 3 mice per treatment group must be analyzed for statistical analysis. <br /> 3. It is not clear how the ∆∆Ct values in Fig. 1 C-F are normalized. This information appears to be missing.<br /> 4. An explanation of the kinetics of NGF and TRL4 analysis would help. NGF-EGFP expression is analyzed 3 hours post loading and TLR4 positivity is analyzed at 7 days.<br /> 5. Figure 2 is presented as relative values, and non-loaded images are not shown. It took us a while to understand this figure. It would be clearer and more rigorous to show all four groups – Non-loaded WT, Loaded WT, Non-loaded cKO and loaded cKO on the same graph, along with corresponding representative images. These data are included in table 2, but tables are always harder to interpret compared to the main figure. Statistical comparison using repeated measures ANOVA would preserve matching and account for animal-animal variability.<br /> 6. Scale bars are missing on the images in Fig 2. <br /> 7. Figure 3 provides important support for the TLR4-NGF connection, especially with TAK-242 inhibition. The use of two orthogonal NFkB inhibitors to show the same effect is robust. Adding figure labels or illustrations to clarify the cell types used in each panel will add clarity. <br /> 8. The timeline is missing from Fig 3A. <br /> 9. The sample size for experiments in Fig 3 is unclear. Showing individual data points for independent samples, including for controls, is important. <br /> 10. Addition of a diagram/illustration to Figure 3 to indicate the fluid shear stress conditions would add clarity. “Load” should be changed to FSS (Fluid Shear Stress) in this figure.<br /> 11. The RNA-seq analysis in Figures 4, 5, 6 is unclear and does not show the comparisons most relevant to the study. We recommend re-analysis using the following comparisons:<br /> A. Effect of load: Loaded WT vs Non-loaded WT. Which pathways are regulated by loading?<br /> B. Effect of TLR4-cKO on pathways identified in (A) as load-induced pathways: Loaded WT vs Loaded cKO. Are the same pathways that were up/down due to loading still up/down after the KO? <br /> C. NGF-signaling: the in vitro data show NGF expression is abrogated by TLR4 inhibition. But in the RNA-seq data, NGF remains significantly upregulated by loading in cKO mice. Whether this upregulation in the knockouts is due to the heterogeneity of the lysed cells in the tissue or is actually relatively lower than the upregulation of NGF by loading in WT mice is not shown. Comparison of the effect of loading on NGF induction in WT and cKO mice could answer this. If NGF signaling is reduced in cKO mice, compared to WT, RNA-seq would be the ideal method to look for signatures of altered signaling downstream of NGF.

      Reviewed by: Boerckel Laboratory, University of Pennsylvania, Oct. 14, 2022.

    1. On 2022-11-01 06:28:15, user Giorgio Cattoretti wrote:

      I have to admit that I personally like the game of the easy moniker for the abstruse algorithms; and I may soon engage myself with the game. But with no acronym and a copyright protected brand name, I hope does not ends as another previous story: Pokemon (https://rdcu.be/cYHmb).

    1. On 2022-10-31 15:54:40, user Daniel Lüdke wrote:

      Line 333: “Interestingly, all three genotypes showed similar increases of induction of expression of ICS1 upon infection with Pst, with somewhat higher levels in LL versus LD (Fig. 6c)."<br /> - Was a statistical tests performed here?

    2. On 2022-10-31 15:54:07, user Daniel Lüdke wrote:

      Figure 5: It would have been interesting to see the water-soaking phenotypes as these would have been expected to appear at around 24. Can a water-soaking phenotype be “reversed” once plants are shifted from LD to LL 24h after Pst infection. Same for the stomatal aperture.

    3. On 2022-10-31 15:53:52, user Daniel Lüdke wrote:

      Figure 4b/c/d: Labelling at the bottom should be as in a (“DC3000” instead “Control”, “DC3000+BTH” instead “BTH”)

    4. On 2022-10-31 15:53:13, user Daniel Lüdke wrote:

      Figure 3a, b and c: Are the same gene expression patterns and SA levels observed for the different light settings when treatment with Pst instead of flg22 is performed?

    5. On 2022-10-31 15:52:49, user Daniel Lüdke wrote:

      Figure S3/Line 200: “Moreover, under LL, Pst grew to levels similar to Pst hopM1-/avrE1- (h-/a-), which cannot induce water-soaking (Fig. S3).”<br /> - Pst and the Pst mutant line levels are markedly different

    6. On 2022-10-31 15:52:27, user Daniel Lüdke wrote:

      Line 168: “We observed that, under LL conditions, Pst could no longer induce water-soaking lesions in Arabidopsis leaves, in contrast to LD or DD (Fig. 2a).”<br /> - add that this is after 24h in the main text to make clear that there is a difference in time points for disease resistance and water soaking assays?

    7. On 2022-10-31 15:51:49, user Daniel Lüdke wrote:

      We think it would be interesting to measure ABA levels for the different light conditions as aba2-1 appears to have a strong effect on bacterial titters and ABA as antagonist of SA plays an important role in the discussion

    8. On 2022-10-31 15:51:23, user Daniel Lüdke wrote:

      We appreciate the schematic diagram of light conditions/treatments in Figure 5. Would it be possible to include similar diagrams for the other figures as this would make it easier to follow how plants have been treated. In the methods could it be described in more detail at what point after infection the light conditions were applied?

    9. On 2022-10-31 15:51:04, user Daniel Lüdke wrote:

      The following comments and suggestions were made by S. Johnson, Y. Li, C. Briggs, J. Claeys and D. Lüdke during the 2022 TSL preprint pizza party.

      In this preprint the authors demonstrate that different light conditions affect the outcome of Pseudomonas challenge on Arabidopsis. While darkness appears to favour the induction of stomatal closure and the formation of water-soaking lesions, these phenotypes are reduced/prevented under constant light conditions, leading to enhanced resistance. The authors show that this requires SA as well as integration of red and far/red light signaling. In the following are some comments and suggestions that came up during our discussion of this study:

    1. On 2022-10-31 10:53:55, user ROBERTA BANKS wrote:

      Thank you for taking the time to submit this paper. Although tobacco smoking is a prevalent problem, not much research dives into how it affects human physiology on a cellular level. I appreciate your efforts to explore this topic on a deeper level.

      The title of the paper and objectives of the study stated in the paper claim to explore the effects of cigarette smoke on neurodegeneration and reactive oxygen species, however, there is a less definite link between these topics and inflammatory markers. These topics are not fully explored in this paper. More specifically, reactive oxygen species are not explored to the depths in which EVs were explored, yet it was stated in the paper, “cigarette smoke induces a series of mechanisms that activate cell populations from both the innate and the adaptive immunity, which in turn promote the secretion of multiple inflammation-related molecules such as proinflammatory cytokines including chemokines, reactive oxygen species (ROS) and extracellular vesicles...” Reactive oxygen species were not explored sufficiently to claim that cigarette smoke can activate ROS. The lack of exploration of key topics mentioned in the beginning of the paper, make the overall study over-promising in combination with a lack of data to back up the paper’s claims. For future studies, it would be helpful to see how ROS is affected in EV-secreting cells post smoking a cigarette to have a better understanding of cigarette smoke on ROS.

      The data that is available in this paper seems to be more descriptive than quantitative and has difficulty showing significance to claims that are being made. There is also a lack of controls in your data which make the existing data and claims unreliable. Perhaps in Figure 1 and 2, it would have been helpful to take blood from the smokers after smoking to compare the data and ensure what you are seeing is significant. In addition some of the claims that are in this paper are very generalized. It is important to understand how different demographics are impacted by cigarette smoke physiologically. Might I suggest, for a future direction, conducting more testing data to see if there are any statistically significant differences in physiological response for individuals of different demographics. (For example, age, BMI, gender, ethnicity/cultural background, diabetic/non diabetic, etc.

      Once again, thank you for posting this paper. It allowed me to think deeper about the physiological effects of tobacco smoke.

    2. On 2022-10-24 04:59:52, user Sarah O'Malley wrote:

      Hello, my name is Sarah O’Malley, and I am a student of the Biomedical Research minor at UCLA. I recently read this paper with my program’s journal club, and I want to thank you for your work on mEVs and early biomarkers of tobacco smoking-induced disease. My class learned a great deal of information while reading and discussing this paper, and I would like to present some suggestions and comments:

      The variety of techniques utilized to isolate and characterize mEVs here were impressive. However, I suggest including percentage breakdowns of the different populations studied on the flow cytometry plots (Figure 2A, 2B, 2E). This data may have already been calculated through FlowJo or could easily be calculated with this software, and it would be valuable to display these percentages to provide more precise quantifications of EV populations. In addition, I believe that Figure 2D may have been incorrectly referred to as Figure 5D in the results section titled “Extracellular vesicle concentration increases in circulation 1 hour after smoking in never-smokers”.

      Also, in the results or discussion section, I would suggest including a description of why there are four post-smoking samples in Figure 2F compared to the 20 non-smoking participants or the nine pre-smoking samples shown in Figure 2F. Next, if possible, I would also suggest conducting the tests performed on nonsmokers in Figure 1 and 2 on smokers as well, which could provide additional data on the acute effects of smoking and if these effects change with the chronic smoking of tobacco. I understand that this data may be difficult to collect, but I believe that it could bolster the content of this paper.

      Lastly, I was wondering what specific statistical test you conducted for this figure. The figure legend states that a non-parametric unpaired t-test was performed. However, I wonder if a paired test should have been used, as this data consists of blood from the same individuals pre- and post-smoking. Thus, I do not know if the groups can be considered independent. Also, t-tests are parametric tests, so I am unsure of what a nonparametric t-test refers to. This pattern of referring to a nonparametric t-test was also maintained throughout the paper. Was a Wilcoxon signed-rank test performed? If not, then I would suggest implementing this statistical test here, as it serves a similar purpose to a t-test but is applicable to paired, nonparametric data. For the other instances of unpaired nonparametric t-tests, I would suggest using a Mann-Whitney U test, which also serves a similar purpose to a t-test but is applicable to unpaired, nonparametric data.

      In Figure 4B, I would suggest expanding the heatmap to display MFI levels for each sample analyzed instead of condensing the data as shown. In this condensed form, the data is a bit difficult to interpret. Alternatively, I would suggest displaying some of the quantifications of activation marker levels described in the results section, as these quantifications would convey the same message but through a more easily interpretable form.

      The discussion around Figure 5 depends on a trend shown in sTREM2 expression and a statistical decrease in BDNF expression. In the results and discussion sections, the following conclusions made about the smoking-linked mechanisms of neurodegeneration may be a bit strong based on this data. I would suggest performing follow-up experiments on other neurodegeneration markers to strengthen this evidence or perhaps test BBB functionality, as this was a concept linked to neurodegeneration throughout this paper.

      I have a quick general note on the references section. I had some trouble finding a few of the papers cited in-text in the references section (e.g. Zalba et al. 2007, Sophocles Chrissobolis et al. 2011). My class had similar difficulties navigating the references section, so I would suggest following up on the consistency of citations in-text and within this section.

      Overall, thank you for posting this paper! It was a highly educational read.

    1. On 2022-10-31 05:04:22, user Ashraya Ravikumar wrote:

      Summary:

      In this work, the author asks how protein structures change based on analyzing the torsion angles. Through examples they show that the distribution of points in this representation correlates with resolution and data collection temperature of the structures. They also construct the RoPE space of a protein using time-resolved experiment datasets and show that minor changes in the linear coordinate space are clearly observed in the RoPE space. This work demonstrates the utility of a non-linear representation of the conformational space in visualizing changes throughout the structure which are originally considered subtle. This work is very interesting and can have significant impact on ensemble studies on protein structures and in crystallization/cryo-EM and fragment screening efforts by showing the impact of temperature and resolution. The manuscript is very concise (perhaps too concise?) and well written.

      Major points:

      1. In Page 3, para 2, the author states differences associated with data collection temperature is preserved across space groups for trypsin and lysozyme but Figure 1(a) and 1(b) marks different space groups only for lysozyme and not for trypsin<br /> 2.The section on carboxymyoglobin has some unclear statements:<br /> (a) “The RoPE space of these structures showed that, over the first three picoseconds, two torsion angle modes are sufficient to represent a clear trajectory during release of carbon monoxide”. Fig 1(e) does show a trajectory from -0.1ps to 3.0 ps but it is not clear how two torsion modes are sufficient to build the trajectory.<br /> (b)“The last three timepoints, 10 ps, 50 ps and 150 ps, are therefore beyond the biologically relevant timescales for CO dissociation in myoglobin and in-line with this, they did not strongly correlate with any other timepoints in RoPE space”. We are confused about which figure/data supports this non-correlation. Is it to be interpreted from Fig 1(e)? If yes, then the author should describe what is correlation and non-correlation in the context of this figure.<br /> (c) The section on “mapping motion back onto structure” in the methods makes it unclear why the scaling is normalized to 1degree and how that might bias the magnitude of motion observed in Figure 2a (+/- 0.3 A)
      2. We tried running some analysis on the RoPE website but it was either unclear how to go about submitting a job or the website became unresponsive after clicking on “view conformational space”. The author can provide a run-through of the website usage with some examples.
      3. It is unclear how important the vagabond refinement performed here is in the clustering. How would figure 1a, b look, for example, if the PDB or PDB-REDO models were subjected to ROPE without further refinement?
      4. At the end of the SVD, it should be possible to project the contributions for each SV back onto the torsion angles most responsible for the differences. It would be interesting to plot that for BPTI and lysozyme to identify the torsions/areas leading to the greatest differences across temperatures.

      Minor points:

      1. There are some gray colored points in Figure 1(a) and 1(b) which are not accompanied by a legend and their significance not explained.
      2. To highlight the advantage of RoPE space, the author can show clustering of the same protein chains when clustered based on RMSD. The crowding of points when using RMSD vs. the separation of points when using torsion angles can make the utility of RoPE space obvious to the reader.

      3. Ashraya Ravikumar and James Fraser, UCSF

    1. On 2022-10-30 20:11:02, user Christina Stallings wrote:

      Very interesting manuscript! There are a couple of additional references that would be appropriate and important to include and discuss. The first is the original manuscript that first noted the similarity of the DciA domain with the N-terminus of DnaA (PMCID: PMC5720831, 10.1371/journal.pgen.1007115). The second is a recently published manuscript that explores predicted structures of DciA homologs across bacterial phyla (PMCID: PMC9380583, DOI: 10.1128/jb.00163-22).

    1. On 2022-10-30 17:53:25, user Thomas Guttmann wrote:

      Thomas Guttmann (thomasg@zahav.net.il)

      The SARS-CoV-2 isolate you have selected to show the special pattern (regular distancing of the BsaI/BsmBI sites, and the longest fragment being short) indeed exhibits the stated features, but I have randomly checked four other SARS-CoV-2 isolates, and they do not exhibit the same features.<br /> Your isolate:<br /> NCBI Reference Sequence: NC_045512.2<br /> Four other isolates:<br /> GenBank: MT192773.1<br /> GenBank: MT764166.1<br /> GenBank: MZ831225.1<br /> GenBank: ON110425.1

      More strains should be shown to have the alleged properties. The fact is that the virus mutates, and the recognition sites may appear and disappear. In the meantime, the supposed special features may be artefacts.

    2. On 2022-10-29 16:04:44, user Prashant wrote:

      I see the logic of the 'presence' of the type IIs sites as an indication that the genome was prepared for in-vitro assembly but those sites were not yet used for inserting variant fragments. So the paper should also comment on any restriction sites that they believe have been used up by adding a variant fragment thereby removing any type IIs sites present there.

      For example I would do this by aligning a fragment such as the furin site containing fragment to multiple viral genomes, look for regions where homology shifts from one genome to another anook into those genomes for any restricti

    3. On 2022-10-24 15:12:40, user Marlise Amstutz wrote:

      But the great advantage of Type IIS restriction enzymes is, that if I assemble fragments using these enzymes I don't need to leave the recognition site of these enzymes in. It let's me create scareless, seamless sequences. So when I use Type IIS RE why would I let them in? The only reason would be for further modifications. But then, why would I leave the same site several times and not use different sites, so I can direct my future modifications specifically? I can't imagine someone, would have designed this like that.

    4. On 2022-10-23 03:08:24, user Alex Crits-Christoph wrote:

      Genomic and phylogenetic evidence proves this preprint false for a very simple reason: the 'endonuclease fingerprint' observed in SARS-CoV-2 is also present in the bat coronaviruses most closely related to SARS-CoV-2. Thus, any hypothetical engineer of the RE sites would have to go to enormous lengths to purposefully mimick natural bat coronaviruses that have only been discovered in the past 2 years: a very dubious proposition. The far simpler alternative is that the sites evolved via natural recombination from natural bat coronaviruses.

      Further, if one examines the genomic regions around each restriction enzyme sites, we find that SARS-CoV-2 shares general genetic similarity with the virus(es) it shares the RE site (or lack therefore) with. This would further indicate that they were inherited via recombination. For example, two BsaI sites missing in SARS-CoV-2 are also missing in the RpYN06 batCoV, which follows naturally from the phylogenetic prediction that RpYN06 is the nearest neighbor in that region. Correspondingly, SARS-CoV-2 shares not just the lack of the BsaI sites in this region, but several other mutations as well: a signal entirely inconsistent with engineering and entirely consistent with natural recombination. The same is true with other natural batCoVs if you examine any of the RE sites described in this work.

      For the engineering hypothesis, this would have to imply that someone not only modified the RE sites to match natural viruses, but also unrelated nearby sites as well - an even more ludicrous proposition that I do not think even these authors can defend.

      Finally, this sort of analysis can be be done systematically by reconstructing a recombinant ancestor of SARS-CoV-2, as the two papers below did:<br /> https://www.nature.com/arti...<br /> (See Fig 2)<br /> https://www.science.org/doi...<br /> (See Fig 6)

      The recombinant ancestor is a reconstruction of the common ancestor of SARS-CoV-2 and other known bat viruses in each region of the genome. The recombinant ancestor of SARS-CoV-2 indeed shares the exact BsaI/BsmBI RE pattern of SARS-CoV-2, minus a signal synonymous mutation: thus further proving that these sites were naturally acquired via recombination. This follows intuitively from the observation that different bat viruses each have some of the RE sites described in this work, and that each bat virus that shares an RE or lack therefore with SARS-CoV-2 is the most recent common ancestor of that genomic region.

      For more, please read:<br /> https://twitter.com/flodeba...<br /> https://twitter.com/acritsc...<br /> https://twitter.com/K_G_And...<br /> https://twitter.com/zhihuac...

      And the data described in my comment is fully available at:<br /> https://github.com/alexcrit...<br /> In particular, the file with 'alignment-with-RpYN06.fasta' which includes a comparison with several batCoVs ignored in this preprint.

      Let us be clear, this is firm phylogenetic proof that the RE pattern in this work is natural. I would not use the word 'proof' lightly in science, but if we cannot use it in such a clear circumstance, we cannot use it at all. If the authors have any integrity they should gracefully retract their work here.

    5. On 2022-10-22 09:06:50, user Jacques Basaldúa wrote:

      How are synonymous mutations evidence of manipulation?

      1. They encode the same peptide, therefore researchers who would have "manipulated" the sequence would have no other reason to do it than "signing" the sequence.
      2. For the same reason, all intermediate viruses on every path from A to B are viable (in fact functionally identical), which if anything indicates it could be natural.
      3. The statistical analysis assumes independence of the mutations, which is a very tall order (linkage disequilibrium, etc.).

      Are we saying "SARS-CoV-2 is an anomaly" (which could just mean "we have lose ends") to argue in favor of the laboratory accident hypothesis?

    6. On 2022-10-22 02:57:06, user Tomato Addict wrote:

      When you test a hypothesis, you are also testing the assumptions that go along with that hypothesis. You describe a lot of assumptions in the methods, but do not say if any effort was made to check the sensitivity of the results to particular assumptions. For that matter, were these methods pre-specified before you looked at the data, or were they tuned to the data you have? If the latter, then you may have a Type I error problem.

      I strongly suggest you should consult a Biostatistician.

    7. On 2022-10-21 16:40:50, user disqus_8AVEuorTBu wrote:

      I appreciate the approach and that your data is public, but I disagree with the conclusion for a few reasons. I really hope you can address these issues before certain “news” organizations gets ahold of this.

      One criterion for IVGA is even spacing of cut sites, yet the SARS-CoV-2 BsaI/BsmBI fingerprint includes a tiny 643nt fragment within nsp13/helicase. This region is identical to SARS except for a single I->V mutation, so why would anyone engineering this virus want to separate this fragment to then do nothing to it? I prefer to believe this is just a cherry-picked pair of restriction enzymes and random noise. One could argue that this is similar to the less even iWIV1 cuts (Figure 2B), but iWIV1’s shortest fragment is still much larger than SARS-CoV-2’s and is only so short because of plasmid instability reported by Zeng et al. This unstable region is, however, very far from SARS-CoV-2’s short fragment, so again I see no reason why anyone would need this short fragment for engineering.

      Relatedly, although the longest fragment length is minimized when cuts are perfectly even spaced, statistics based on longest fragment length are not robust against tiny fragments and lead to false positives. Accounting for all fragment length by fitting to Poisson/exponential distributions would give better statistics, and I’m sure that SARS-CoV-2 would become less significant i.e. nothing in Figure 3A looks at all like Figure 2A.

    8. On 2022-10-21 15:50:35, user Jackson Emanuel wrote:

      The authors state that "The combined odds of obtaining 5 wobble mutations by chance is likely very low (Table S3), although robust estimation of the odds requires considering a space of possible sites and careful examination of wobble mutation rates in the literature, so we leave this task to future research.”However, it is already known to be the case that RNA viruses are under strong purifying selection (doi: 10.1016/j.gene.2007.09.013), and that synonymous SNPs occur far more often than non-synonymous SNPs. This difference affects the validity of their in silico mutation analysis.

    9. On 2022-10-21 03:51:47, user Jared Roach wrote:

      The distribution of random fragment lengths is a beta distribution. (Roach JC. Random subcloning. Genome Res. 1995 Dec;5(5):464-73. doi: 10.1101/gr.5.5.464. PMID: 8808467.) Maximum fragment length is not a robust statistic - it has high variance.

    1. On 2022-10-30 13:28:15, user The Sato Lab (Kei Sato) wrote:

      This preprint is now included in a paper published at Cell Host & Microbe:<br /> doi: 10.1016/j.chom.2022.10.003

      When you refer this study, please refer the peer-reviewed paper above.<br /> Best wishes,<br /> Kei

    1. On 2022-10-30 08:47:01, user Ruzek Lab wrote:

      Interesting study and very nice results, congratulations! Maybe you missed these two papers on TBEV reporting similar results: <br /> Palus et al. Mice with different susceptibility to tick-borne encephalitis virus infection show selective neutralizing antibody response and inflammatory reaction in the central nervous system. J Neuroinflammation. 2013 Jun 27;10:77. doi: 10.1186/1742-2094-10-77. PMID: 23805778; PMCID: PMC3700758.<br /> Palus et al. A novel locus on mouse chromosome 7 that influences survival after infection with tick-borne encephalitis virus. BMC Neurosci. 2018 Jul 6;19(1):39. doi: 10.1186/s12868-018-0438-8. PMID: 29976152; PMCID: PMC6034256.

    1. On 2022-10-29 08:23:12, user Karen Lange wrote:

      This study investigates the autoproteolytic cleavage of polycystin1/PC1 in the C. elegans ortholog LOV-1. Walsh et al used CRISPR genome editing to tag the endogenous LOV-1 protein at both the N-terminus (mScarlet) and C-terminus (mNeonGreen).

      Figure 1 clearly shows that the N and C tagged fragments have different localisation patterns. The N and C terminal tagged fragments also displayed different transport dynamics (Figure 4). When a point mutation that is predicted to prevent cleavage (C2181S) was introduced in the mScarlet::LOV-1::mNeonGreen strain the localisation of LOV-1 was severely disrupted. Interestingly the the N-termini of LOV-1 was enriched in the cilia of three ray neurons suggesting that some cleavage can still occur in this mutant. Taken together this body of work presents strong evidence that LOV-1 is processed in C. elegans.

      The mScarlet::LOV-1::mNeonGreen strain will be a very useful tool for use in future studies to model conserved ciliopathy variants. I would predict that missense variants in the N or C terminal fragment do not affect the function of the other. Modelling these variants will help to elucidate disease mechanisms.

      One concern I have is whether or not the double tagged LOV-1 protein is fully functional. I can see in Figure 3D/F that the mating efficiency with unc-52 and the response behaviour is not significantly different from wild-type. However, I do not see the comparison to wild-type in the dpy-17 mating efficiency assay (Figure 3E). I would have appreciated a supplemental figure when the double tagged LOV-1 allele is first introduced to immediately address whether or not it is functional.

    1. On 2022-10-28 22:50:28, user Nathan Bowen wrote:

      what output from gnomix and additional software did you use to produce figure 8b. Chromosome painting of a Xoloitzcuintle (Xolo) dog ? thanks.

    1. On 2022-10-28 21:26:44, user Pierre Siffredi wrote:

      in the evaluation of power, they do not seem to actually test if this really outperforms basic meta-analysis. outside of contrived scenarios, basic meta analysis is usually the best

      i can't imagine the cross population LD working so great when most people want to use gwas summary from admixed samples, at least until biobanks provide LD calculations along with their summary data

    1. On 2022-10-28 13:55:06, user Jovana Deretic wrote:

      This work was supported by European Molecular Biology Organization (EMBO) Installation grant 3622 and an EMBO Young Investigator Award to ENF, The Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey (TUBITAK) grant 119Z347 to ENF. This project has received funding from the European Union's Horizon 2020 research and innovation program under the Marie Sklodowska-Curie grant agreement No 896644 awarded to JD.<br /> The article is now published in the FEBS Journal, doi: 10.1111/febs.16367, with open access after January 2023

    1. On 2022-10-28 11:23:07, user Robert Eibl wrote:

      This study shows that

      1) A fourth vaccination, either monovalent (only against original SARS-CoV-2 strain), or bivalent (also against Omicron BA.4/BA.5), really can induce a robust antibody response against SARS-CoV-2 variants,<br /> including Omicron BA.4/BA.5.

      2) Within 3-5 weeks after vaccination and in small<br /> groups of only about 20 volunteers each, a highly significant effect of the bivalent over monovalent vaccines may not be that clear, although in my view and in consideration<br /> of the logarithmic scale, I can clearly see a better outcome for the bivalent vaccines.

      Consideringnew Omicron variants currently evolving further from BA.4 or BA.5, this would further support the use of the bivalent vaccines. In addition, the study tested only the antibody (B-cell) response. It is reasonable to expect also a specific T-cell response. Finally, the level of protection may be demonstrated soon in the clinical outcome within a few months.

    2. On 2022-10-27 03:23:18, user Nathan Pearson wrote:

      Please consider using plotted datum color, shape, or size to distinguish recipients of Moderna vs. Pfizer bivalent boosters (and, ideally, to also distinguish recipients of 4 Pfizer founder-monovalent doses vs. 4 Moderna founder-monovalent doses vs. 4 founder-monovalent doses including at least one Moderna and one Pfizer dose -- as well as recipients known to have recovered from a COVID bout in the _ months prior to assay).

      Currently your main plot does not independently use color and shape (e.g., in Fig. 1B all squares are blue and all triangles red); as such, you have some flexibility to include more information in the plot that might help at least anecdotally highlight further factors (such as brand) that may shape quantitative findings.

      Thanks.

    1. On 2022-10-28 08:53:32, user Mark Banfield wrote:

      We have observed cases of domain integrations in Pikm-1 being accepted by the Pikm-2 helper. But equally, there are cases where integration results in autoactivity, like those highlighted in this work. Our goal here was to address specific cases where autoactivity arose from manipulation of the integrated domain in the Pikm-1 chassis, and to provide methods of addressing this. We are yet to determine definitive rules that describe/predict whether an integration will cause autoactivity, and as such there is an element of trial and error in the approach at present. In this regard, some pikobodies can be incorporated into the Pikm-1 chassis without autoactivity - but this isn’t contradictory, especially as shown in the supplement of Kourelis et al., where there are several different nanobodies trialled that did result in autoactive phenotypes. But yes, we agree, the use of Pikp-2 with a Pikm-1 nanobody chimera could be used to alleviate, or help lower, autoactivity caused by the integration of some nanobodies.

    2. On 2022-10-13 12:53:12, user Ryan Kessens wrote:

      It's amazing how intolerant the Pikm-2 allele is of changes to the sensor Pik allele. I'm particularly surprised that the RGA5 HMA domain in Pikm-1 was not tolerated by Pikm-2 considering the fact that nanobody domains can be incorporated into Pikm-1 and coexpressed with Pikm-2 with some success. Do these seemingly contradictory results surprise you? Do you think there is something special about the nanobody structure that makes it a good replacement for the HMA domain in Pikm-1? Do you think coexpression of Pikp-2 with Pikm-1 pikobodies would result in less autoactivity?

    1. On 2022-10-26 13:05:02, user Diana Camila Gómez De La Cruz wrote:

      Regarding the statistics, were the student t-tests controlled for multiple testing? Perhaps this could be expanded on in the material & methods section.

    2. On 2022-10-26 13:04:17, user Diana Camila Gómez De La Cruz wrote:

      There appears to be no strong conservation of either RE02 in Solanaceae, or RLP30 in Brassicaceae. Perhaps the authors could go more into the phylogeny of these receptors, which might highlight putative receptors in Brassica and tomato involved in the recognition of SCPSs. Also, in the Arabidopsis accessions that do recognize SCPSs, is there sequence variation in RLP30?

    3. On 2022-10-26 13:03:22, user Diana Camila Gómez De La Cruz wrote:

      In figure 3 the authors show that different mutants and fragments of SCPSs are differentially recognized by different plant species. In this figure it is not immediately clear how these mutant proteins were produced (extended data 7 makes clear this is from Pichia), this should be highlighted in the figure 3 legend. Additionally, the western blots for the truncations appear to be missing and perhaps the western blots for the individual cysteine mutations should be moved to the main figure. Finally, the interpretation of this data is that there is differential recognition of these SCPSs mutants and fragments between species, indicating that either there are additional receptors, or different epitopes are recognized by SCPSs-recognizing receptors in these species, or the SCPSs-recognizing receptors differ in their robustness of recognition. One alternative interpretation is that the apoplastic conditions are different between these species, and therefore these SCPSs mutants/fragments may behave differently depending on the species. Either this could be mentioned in the text, or a western blot should be added after infiltration to show the stability of these mutants in the apoplast of the different species.

    4. On 2022-10-26 13:00:13, user Diana Camila Gómez De La Cruz wrote:

      The paper does not go into structural similarities between the cysteine-rich effectors from the different pathogens, specially between SCP and VmE02. Given that this effector family is widely distributed, it is likely that Alphafold2 would be able to produce high-confidence models. This might also help to narrow down candidate proteins recognized in the fractions from Pseudomonads

    5. On 2022-10-26 12:57:34, user Diana Camila Gómez De La Cruz wrote:

      In figure 1E the authors show a CoIP, where they pulled-down on the receptor-side to show that SCPSs-Myc specifically interacts with RLP30-GFP, and not RLP23-GFP (used as a control). However, this experiment requires a Myc-tagged secreted protein as a negative control, rather than no control at all on the effector side. Finally, a less cropped version of the CoIP (as a supplemental, if needed), and a ponceau stain or similar for loading control would be appreciated.

    6. On 2022-10-26 12:55:54, user Diana Camila Gómez De La Cruz wrote:

      This paper nicely characterised the previously reported SCFE1 as the small cysteine-rich protein SCPSs, and showed its recognition by RLP30 in Arabidopsis. This is demonstrated using T-DNA knockout lines, complementation, and CoIP. The authors show that SCPSs-like effectors from fungi other than S. sclerotiorum, oomycete and bacterial pathogens are also recognized by RLP30. In addition, they also show that SCPSs is recognized by different plant species. Based on sequence similarity to VmE02, the authors identify that the N. benthamiana receptor RE02 (also known as NbCSPR) can also recognize SCPSs. The authors then go on to delineate the recognized peptide from SCPSs, showing there is variation between plant species in the ability to recognize fragments derived from SCPSs. Finally, the authors show that RLP30 can also recognize an unknown elicitor found in small molecule fractions from Pseudomads, unlike the NbRE02.

      We enjoyed reading this well-written paper! The data were nicely presented, and generally well controlled. We have some comments that could improve the manuscript, although these would not affect the overall message.

      The following comments and suggestions were made by J. Kourelis, D. Gómez De La Cruz and J. Bennett.

    1. On 2022-10-26 10:34:06, user Mauricio P. Contreras wrote:

      Here are some potential future questions/avenues of exploration that arose in our discussion of the study:

      It would be super interesting in future works to identify the receptor/s involved in perception of plant and parasite derived PSY peptides. This would enable many new lines of questioning.

      Are MigPSY peptides triggering an immune response or mediating any sort of PTI-like response (i.e. triggering a ROS burst) in any root knot nematode hosts (i.e. rice)?

      How do plant receptors (such as Xa21) distinguish between endogenous and parasite derived PSY peptides? What are the molecular determinants for this specificity? It would be super interesting to study the potential co-evolutionary arms race between pathogen PSYs and host receptors.

      How did plant pathogens acquire PSY peptide mimics, evolutionarily speaking? Do non-plant pathogenic nematodes also have PSY peptides? Is it possible that non-plant pathogenic nematodes also produce these or similar peptides for other unrelated endogenous processes and then these were co-opted over evolutionary time to fulfil a role in pathogenesis?

    2. On 2022-10-26 10:33:37, user Mauricio P. Contreras wrote:

      General comments

      A sentence highlighting that this appears to be a case of convergent evolution in the discussion/conclusions would be nice!

      Would be interesting to test whether there is an additive effect between the nematode PSY peptides and the endogenous plant peptide (AtPSY1). This may help clarify if MigPSY peptides are functioning via the same signaling pathway as AtPSY1as performed in Figure 3 of the cited paper (Pruitt et al. 2017).

    3. On 2022-10-26 10:32:20, user Mauricio P. Contreras wrote:

      Figure 5<br /> In Figure 5, are graphs B and D independent? Does the number of galls affect the number of females with egg masses? Are these two independent processes?

      Is nematode fitness affected by silencing the PSY peptides? Is it correct to conclude that the silencing of the PSY peptides is affecting pathogenicity of the nematode and not the fitness?

      In Figure 5, GFP targeting siRNAs are used as a negative control. Could an improved negative control be used that knocks down a sequence that is expressed in nematode that does not impact nematode development or pathogenicity?

    4. On 2022-10-26 10:31:31, user Mauricio P. Contreras wrote:

      Figure 4<br /> Based on the in situ hybridization assay against the mRNA of the PSY mimics, the authors hypothesize that the PSY peptides are sulphated in the nematode. Is this enough evidence to hypothesize that the peptides are sulphated inside the nematode? The location of MigPSY transcripts and the location of sulfation may be completely different. Could the peptides be sulphated in the host?

    5. On 2022-10-26 10:31:07, user Mauricio P. Contreras wrote:

      Figure 2<br /> Mock is currently the only negative control, as even the truncated peptide exhibite an effect. As all peptides used influenced root growth, would there be a different and more stringent negative control that could be included? Does mutating one of the conserved residues in the PSY peptides abrogate their root growth promoting effects? If so, maybe this could be a nice control. Really liked the inclusion of the truncated peptide! Cool to see that even this variant retains root growth promoting activity.

      Also related to Figure 2, it would be helpful for any readers trying to build on these data or trying to design similar experiments what the rationale for using 100 nM concentration of the peptides in the growth medium in Figure 2. Was this decision based on the bibliography or was this found experimentally?

    6. On 2022-10-26 10:30:30, user Mauricio P. Contreras wrote:

      Figure 1<br /> •Would it be possible to model these MigPSY peptides with AlphaFold2? This would be nice to include in Figure 1. If not, is there any other in silico approach that could be used to have an insight about the structure of these small peptides? We would find any exploration of structural homology between plant and parasite PSY peptides from very exciting. Do MigPSYs exhibit structural homology to other proteins, either from the host or the pathogen?

    7. On 2022-10-26 10:29:27, user Mauricio P. Contreras wrote:

      We highly enjoyed reading this preprint, the study was well written and easy to read! We find the idea of convergent evolution of plant PSY peptide mimics in both bacteria and nematodes super interesting and look forward to any follow-up studies.

      All comments/suggestions by M. Bergum, M. P. Contreras, L. Feng, X. Lyu, S. Muniyandi, A. Posbeyikian and H. Pai

    1. On 2022-10-25 04:27:57, user Amanda Maldonado wrote:

      The article strikes me as a well-written analysis of aquatic bacterial evolution. I think that this article was incredibly effective in proving the points hypothesized in the introduction and abstract. All of the information in the article tied back to information first brought up in the introduction, which helped me as the reader follow along and see the significance of the information being provided. I also appreciate how clearly the thesis statement is addressed in the introduction of the paper. The main idea of the paper is that physicochemical factors largely contribute to the phylogeny of aquatic bacteria. This is proven by the methods mentioned in the thesis, which is a phylogenetic and MAGs analysis. Although the purpose of this paper was briefly mentioned in the introduction as relating to climate change and understanding how changing environmental conditions might affect bacteria, the authors could have been a bit more explicit about how these findings affect this field of study. I would rate the significance of this paper as a modest contribution, because although the authors did tie its importance to climate change, more context regarding its place in the field would allow me to have a better understanding of its significance. The findings are important for understanding how climate change affects ecosystems and the organisms such as bacteria living within them, but again, more context would help in understanding the gravity of these findings. The methodology in this paper is convincing, and the only area I find questionable is the validity of MAGs in acting as an accurate representation of bacterial genomes. This question however is one addressed by the authors and accounted for in the data collection. The writing quality is a particular strength of this paper, and I thought the figures and thought process behind the data collection was well communicated to the reader. A strength of this article is that it does incite intrigue regarding the question of how climate change might affect the environment, leaving open further questions about how studying the past evolution of organisms might provide insight into their potential future evolution.

    2. On 2022-10-25 02:19:08, user Zeyad El-Naghy wrote:

      It was a pleasure reading your paper! Not only did confirm a lot of speculations that were proposed in prior studies, but it also highlighted a lot of new information about an aquatic environment (ie. brackish biomes) that has not previously been elucidated. It is intriguing that the transitions of bacterial communities both into and out of brackish bodies have glossed over in the field despite such type of environments taking up such a large portion of global waters. Some strong points of the paper that I noticed was that I liked how for the most part the figures in the paper were properly explained in the written portion and that the conclusions drawn were easily traced back to the data in the figures. It made going through the findings of the study a pretty straightforward process. In addition, I liked how you acknowledged the missing information from this experiment in your discussion section, such as exactly why transitions were more frequent into than out of brackish biomes. These kinds of acknowledgements paves the way for future research to build off of this study and come up with answers to these gaps in knowledge. In the end, you mention that "phylogenomic analyses should be supplemented with experimental and ecological approaches" in future studies, but what exactly did you have in mind? One suggestion I had was maybe repeating the experiment in other brackish bodies of water such as the Black Sea/Salian Sea to see if the results can be reproduced? Overall, great work!

    3. On 2022-10-24 22:34:03, user CDSL JHSPH wrote:

      This was a very interesting paper. It was based on large-scale phylogenomic analysis and tried to explain the findings through biochemical and molecular points of view. On the general organization of this paper, a minor suggestion I would propose is including a workflow chart to explain how each experiment is connected to the question of investigation. Regarding the result, I noticed from Fig 5 that there are clear increases in acidic protein proportions for all transitions, but for the frequency of basic proteins, only the BM transition showed a slight increase. I was curious if there is an explanation for this. Additionally, I was a little confused if this paper is trying to suggest a causal relationship between functional gene content changes and cross-biome transitions, or if it aims at showing the association between these two events. Lastly, I was wondering if there are other ways (both computational and experimental) to validate the findings from this paper.<br /> Overall, this is a good paper with beautiful figures and in-depth analysis of molecular incidents in cross-biome transition. Thank you for presenting your work here!

    4. On 2022-10-22 15:18:45, user CDSL JHSPH wrote:

      I really enjoyed reading this study. I liked that this paper was easy to read if you have a good scientific background. I just thought that there could be some terms that could be defined in the Introduction such as brackish waters and MAGs. I also thought that maybe specifically defining the conditions for the marine filtered genome. I know that there was a supplemental table talking about where the MAGs came from, but I think it would be better to put that somewhere in the paper (either the results or methods) because it has a lot of important information. On another note, I don't know what happened but for some reason for figure 5, I just saw a replicate of figure 1 even though figure 5 was obviously different. Overall though, the paper was very interesting and well written! <br /> Also, I know in the preprint you mentioned that climate change has a role in affecting some of the factors in marine environments like salinity. Also, this study shows that bacteria transitioning between different marine biomes is pretty rare. However, the study also showed that there are some species of bacteria that are making these transitions. I guess what my question is do you think that there's still hope that bacteria will survive climate change and be able to adapt to different biomes?

    5. On 2022-10-22 00:15:10, user CDSL JHSPH wrote:

      This is interesting research, not only because it corroborates past findings, but also because it confirms and arouses mixed reactions concerning microbial diversity in equal measure. It is my pleasure to make these remarks. The work is well structured, well researched, and properly presented, easy to read even for non-scientific audiences. When going through the details though, I could not keep the concepts of hospital-acquired infections, antibiotic resistance, and the emergence of novel diseases out of my mind, particularly because of how they are linked to the overall concept of microbial diversity and adaptability. For antimicrobial resistance, for instance, the underlying factor has everything to do with the transfer of mobile genetic elements (MGEs) between two genomes. When MGEs access the chromosomes of new bacterial hosts, the outcome is phenotypical alteration. If the MGEs contained antibiotic resistance then novel or ongoing pathogenesis may result. Nevertheless, your study has demonstrated that bacterial species rarely cross environmental barriers. However, it is interesting to note that this is not the entirety of the results because there are distinct transitions between aquatic biomes, which, noteworthy, are ancient, rare, and often directed towards the brackish biome. At the same time, there are frequent transitions into brackish sites, which are harder to explain. I am just concerned, are there tests that can ascertain these claims? Previous studies have identified that bacteria are opportunistic and may manipulate any loophole to establish supremacy. The concern is further aggravated by your additional findings, that brackish bacteria often exhibit enriched gene functions for various physiological responses, including transcriptional regulation, which is integral in the re-writing genetic information, further begging the question should there be a cause for worry.

    1. On 2022-10-25 04:04:37, user Pooja Ravi wrote:

      Hello! This was a very interesting and captivating paper. It was very educational and understandable, even with limited knowledge of the field of Trypanosomes and parasitology. The contribution of the paper to really delve into the immunogenic capabilities of antigen variability of Trypanosoma is really providing a different perspective as to how it undergoes immune evasion. This detail really aided in surmising the paper's focal target of Trypanosoma responding to cells within extravasuclar spaces and their respective capabiltiies of changing their VSGs in such an environmental niche to best suit their survival as a whole. I was a bit curious of whether the tissue-dependency of this organism could be affected by different tissue types and extravascular conditions? For instance, would meningital tissue and extravascular spaces in the cranium feature a different response than enteroid tissue in the gut, and extravascular spaces there? The writing overall was very thorough and really helped to build my understanding. I feel one important and arbitrary takeaway from this work could be the clinical capability of recognizing this antigenic shifting, and maybe finding a means to classify the pattern of shifts to determine an effective means of possibly quantifying and curing sleeping sickness.

    2. On 2022-10-24 23:55:58, user Shreya Jolly wrote:

      Summarize the (at most) 3 key main ideas.

      The three key ideas I gathered from this paper were –

      1. Extravascular spaces appear as an important and previously overlooked niche for antigenic variation in T. brucei infection.
      2. Extravascular-resident T. Brucei play a profound role in the longevity and persistence of T. brucei infection by exhibiting novel immune evading VSGs.
      3. Extravascular spaces potentially facilitate antigenic variation by providing parasites extra ‘time’ to reside in the same.

      Main contribution of the paper

      This paper highlights the role of the extravascular spaces in enhancing and or prolonging T. Brucei infection. This is a novel finding because previous work on T. Brucei has barely studied antigenic variation in extravascular spaces. Most studies have been conducted on blood resident T. Brucei. Claims that state that T. brucei populations residing in the blood fully represent the antigenic complexity of T. brucei populations have been falsely passed on. Consequently, this paper helps break such false beliefs. Besides breaking false beliefs, the importance of this paper is further highlighted in the introduction section which states that most T. Brucei parasites reside in the extravascular spaces during T. Brucei infection. By providing a rationale over why they do so, this paper helps guide effective strategies to eliminate T. Brucei infection. Now for example, researchers are more likely to focus on preventing the entry of these parasites into the extravascular spaces since it is these spaces which provide the parasites their key pathogenic mechanism and or strategy.

      Critique

      One of the claims researchers make to explain how extravascular spaces help enhance and or prolong T. Brucei infection involves the immune system. The researchers specifically claim that extravascular spaces provide the parasites additional time to carry out antigenic variation. While the researchers have provided an immunological basis for this hypothesis of theirs (by including the IgM antibody), I do feel that it still too far-fetched. It could be the extensive VSGs found in the extravascular spaces provide parasites additional time to carry out more antigenic variation rather than the extravascular space itself providing the parasites additional time to carry out antigenic variation (through blocking IgM). To solidify their IgM hypothesis, perhaps they can block the IgM antibody of mice and then infect them. This way the additional time earlier enjoyed by only the extravascular residing parasites can also be enjoyed by the blood resident parasites. If blood-resident parasites in this condition just like the tissue-resident parasites start to demonstrate higher antigenic variation, then this can provide support for the researcher’s claim that the tissue’s provision of extra time is what makes the parasites undergo more extensive antigenic variation within the extravascular spaces.

      It is important to note that the researchers in this study made use of a specific model of T. Brucei. They used T. brucei EATRO1125 AnTat1.1E 90-13 parasites which are incapable of developing into their short stumpy forms (McDonald et al., 2018). This appears risky since the short stumpy forms of the parasite enable it to undergo apoptosis and cell death. Hence it could be that the parasites continued existence in the tissue could be due to their inability to undergo apoptosis rather than the VSG itself. This definitely poses challenges on the main contribution of the paper which associates prolonged T. Brucei infection to VSGs and antigenic diversity. Hence while using this cell line helps researchers account for antigenic variations which are independent of development, it also likely causes continued parasite pertinence due to the inability of the same to undergo apoptosis.<br /> Surface proteins like VSGs which serve as key players in host-pathogen interactions are often subjected to strong selection pressures resulting in rapid evolutionary changes through mutation, recombination, and gene duplication. Consequently, studying VSGs repertoires is very challenging and I wonder how the researchers ensure the initial stability of VSGs for comparison post antigenic variations.

      Significance

      While I do think that the finding is novel and hence significant, I believe that the researchers can do a better job in explaining the applicability of this finding in the field of vector biology. There also exist some issues (model of the parasite used) which may make one skeptical about the paper’s main contribution and hence significance.

      Methodology

      I believe that the experiments were well-designed. This is because they made use of appropriate and highly accurate reagents and techniques. For instance, after obtaining the tissues from mice who had been infected with T. Brucei infection, the tissues were treated with TRIzolTM LS to obtain RNA. Usage of TRIzolTM has long been considered the “gold standard” for RNA purification. The all-in-one reagent can lyse extremely complex samples, is easily scalable, generates and or recovers ample RNA yield and is also effective in inactivating RNAses. This way the researchers ensure that they preserve the RNA quality, integrity, and quantity. To get rid of any contaminating DNA researchers also make use of DNases This prevents their sample from being contaminated and hence ensures the integrity of their data (and therefore claims). Additionally, the researchers also make use of the Mag-Bind Total Pure NGS which refers to a reliable solution used for the purification of both DNA and RNA for next-generation sequencing workflows. The technique enables the researchers to selectively bind fragments thereby providing the flexibility of left, right or double-sided size selection. The purified RNA generated post this technique is suitable for a variety of downstream applications such as NGS library preparation, microarrays, automated fluorescent sequencing. Knowing that the researchers use such a reliable technique to purify and select their RNA gives me confidence over some of their results such as the one presented in the abstract – the expressed VSG repertoire is not uniform across populations of parasites within the same infection. Following extraction of the RNA from the extravascular tissue post T. brucei infection, the researchers then obtain cDNA from the RNA using Superscript III reverse transcriptase and a primer that binds to the conserved VSG 14-mer in the 3’UTR. Using the enzyme Superscript III reverse transcriptase to carry out the reverse transcription definitely serves to be advantageous. This appears to be an effective strategy since the particular enzyme has been modified to have a higher half-life, higher thermal stability, and reduced RNase H activity. Furthermore, using primers that specifically bind to the VSG gene enable, the researchers to obtain cDNAs of VSG. cDNA’s reflect expressed genes and obtaining the same for VSG hence helps provide researchers an idea of the extent of VSG expression. Post obtaining the cDNA the researchers then subject the same to 25 rounds of PCR using VSG-specific primers that contain a Phusion polymerase. Use of such a polymerase definitely serves advantageous since, the polymerase brings together a novel Pyrococcus-like enzyme with a processivity enhancing domain. This enables the generation of PCR products with accuracy and high speed which is something previously unattainable with single enzymes. This further adds to my believability of the results since the reagents chosen to appear to be high quality and error aversive. Once the PCR products are obtained, they are then quantified using QuBit HS DNA kit which is a kit that enables accurate and precise quantification of dsDNA. The resulting DNA which represents VSG genes present in extravascular tissue post infection with the parasite, are sequenced using Illumina sequencing which is a high-throughput sequencing technique. Consequently, through using high-throughput, modern and accurate techniques, the researchers definitely make their data appear accurate.

      Using these techniques also helps the researcher’s study both the genetic and epigenetic bases of antigenic variation. Antigenic variations often occur by altering the DNA sequence of an antigen encoding gene or the regulatory elements. The changes then cause alterations in the expression levels of the antigen. Since the researchers in this study not only sequence the VSG specific genes but also obtain and quantify the cDNA extracted from the RNA of TRIzolTM incubated extravascular tissue, this method enables them to assess both and account for both the genetic and expression level changes that associate with the genetic basis of antigenic variations. In fact, this method even enables the researchers to account for the epigenetic variations of antigenic variations. During epigenetic variations, antigenic variations manifest as changes in their expression levels as opposed to changes in their genes. Hence even if sequencing data shows no changes which may lead to the assumption of no antigenic variation, coupling this method with cDNA acquisition and quantification, definitely enables researchers to account for the epigenetic basis of antigenic expression by providing the researchers a chance to study changes in expression levels (Cortés & Deitsch, 2017). According to (Stockdale et al., 2008), three key things are required for antigenic variation. The first requirement includes the need for a family of genes encoding antigenically distinct surface antigens. T. brucei contains more than 1000 VSG genes. Through having access to those genes using VSG-specific primers, PCR, and sequencing and that too of extravascular tissues post the parasite’s infection, this technique enables researchers to assess antigenic variations in extravascular tissue. Another requirement for demonstrating antigenic variation includes the need for a single pathogen to express one variant antigen gene at a time. This prevents the over exhaustion of the surface antigens repertoire. Through extracting and quantifying cDNA which represent genes which have been expressed post extravascular T. brucei parasitic infection, the researchers can assess the same as well. The third and final strategy needed to achieve antigenic variation includes a mechanism which enables the microbe to switch the single expressed antigen gene. T. brucei appears unique in that it actually acquires two mechanisms to achieve those switching. The first mechanism involves a single antigen gene being expressed and then being periodically silenced with another gene being activated. This can be assessed by the chosen method since it makes use of cDNA analysis. The second strategy used relies on recombination. Specifically, there exist a site for antigen gene expression. Switching to new antigenic variants is achieved by recombination into the specific site. Often times a silent antigen gene is copied and duplicated into the expression site deleting the resident gene. I am not exactly sure how the method helps researchers study such form of homologous recombination. Perhaps researchers can further venture into this.

      Most important limitation

      I believe the most important limitation of this study is the utilization of a model of T. Brucei which is incapable of undergoing apoptosis (due to the model’s inability to form short stumpy bodies). Since the entire study focuses on assessing parasitemia and relating the same to antigenic variation, how do researchers control for the effects of reduced apoptosis on the parasitemia?

      Another important limitation I would like to highlight is that involving the data presented in figure 5. The data in this figure is generated by the researchers testing for unique VSGs generated on day 6 in the blood. I wonder why this is the case. This is because in an earlier section, the researchers specifically mention that they did not assess for unique VSGs in day 6 since there were too few VSGs generated at the time. This makes me a bit skeptical about the results generated in day 6 since the data for the same in the context of unique VSGs was never presented. Another question that arises is why the authors specifically chose to study day 6 VSGs and exclude day 10 and 14 VSGs for this analysis. I believe that some rationale could be provided to better understand this choice of the author.

      Writing

      I would give this paper a score of 4 for its writing. This is because I genuinely feel that the researchers were able to communicate complex ideas in a simplistic and comprehensible manner. However, I think that certain terminologies such as tissue tropism, and certain concepts such as immune evasion could be further explained, since the audience may not have much science background. While I did not find any grammatical errors, I do think the researchers should keep track of the claims they make. For instance, in one section of the paper, the researchers wrote that they did not assess unique VSGs on day 6 since none were generated by then. However later onwards when describing the findings presented in figure 5, they stated that they assessed/looked for the unique VSGs on day 6 in the blood. These two statements appear contradictory and makes one skeptical over the writing and hence the overall study.

      Any questions the work leaves open?

      In this study the researchers find what they like to call unique VSGs. Unique VSGs are VSGs only expressed in certain spaces. I believe that the researchers can further expand on their study by assessing the role of these unique VSGs in tissue tropism. If the identified VSGs do play a role in tissue tropism, this can significantly uplift the impact factor of this research study given that tissue tropism changes during the course of infection and hence potentially serves a diagnostic tool. For instance, acute Toxoplasma gondii infections associate with gut cell invasion whilst chronic disease is characterized by brain invasion and neurological impairment. Trypanosome tropism towards the central nervous system causes a variety of sleep disturbances, psychiatric, motor, and sensory malfunctions. Hence understanding the potential of those unique tissue specific VSGs in T. brucei specific tropism can definitely improve the applicability of this particular paper.

      In this paper, the researchers show that majority of antigenic variation takes place in the extravascular spaces. It would be interesting to evaluate the survivability of the blood-resident VSGs prior to extravascular invasion using in vitro studies. This could potentially enable drug development which prevents the entrance of T. brucei into the extravascular spaces.

      In this study, the researchers only study VSGs for up to 14 days. At this point according to the researchers, tissue-resident populations only begin to diverge from one another and the blood. Studying longer periods of VSG expression can definitely help the researchers further address their aim of studying the role of extravascular parasites in T. brucei infection. I wonder why the researchers choose to only study 14 days post infection. Are there any limitations that restrict them for studying T. brucei for longer periods of time.

      The researchers in this paper also discuss about tissue-specific VSG selection. This seems to make quite a lot of sense. This is because other parasites like Plasmodium do express different var genes Besides studying for tissue-specific VSG selection, researchers in this study can also study the role of VSGs in things other than antigenic variation.

      According to Silva Pereira (20220, researchers are currently underestimating the extent to which VSGs are repurposed beyond their role as variant antigens. Indeed, there do exist nonvariant VSGs that perform specific functions such as serum-resistance associated VSG. To relate this future study with their antigen specific aims, they can assess how antigenic variations in VSGs evolve and or modify VSGs to carry out other unique functionalities.

      The researchers in this study discuss the applicability of their findings in the context of natural infections. They specifically claim that the variations can help the parasite survive in wild animals who may already have anti-VSG immunity. However, I feel that to improve the generalizability of the research’s findings to humans, researchers can assess if these antigen variation strategies enable the parasite to survive longer in a vaccinated human already acquiring VSG active immunity, nonvaccinated human already acquiring VSG herd immunity or infant already acquiring anti-VSG passive immunity. This can definitely be an interesting arena to look into.

    3. On 2022-10-24 15:59:40, user Nyah Johnson wrote:

      Hi! I thought that this was a great paper. It was very informational and allowed for easy understandings of the goal of the research which i thought was pretty interesting. I did, however, have some questions about the main points. I think a point being proven was in regard to the question about parasites expressing antigenic variation while in extracellular spaces. I was curious on when exactly the antigenic variation occurs. Is there a signal that notifies the parasite when to change the VSG coat also? I think ultimately these were questions the paper posed as well, however i think it could be beneficial to list some speculations on what you might think is occurring. It could help with providing some context in relation to this in the background. Also I was a bit unclear on the plan for future work. I didn't see it really discussed in detail, either that, or I wasn't sure if the questions you posed at the end of discussion was where the future work was headed. Overall, the paper was great i was able to fully emerge and and take interest in the topic despite this not being my primary discipline. Explanations were amazing, I would just narrow down on the points you weren't sure about because I also wasn't sure about it and others may not be as well.

    4. On 2022-10-24 01:42:04, user CDSL JHSPH wrote:

      This was a fascinating and well written paper. Additionally, the analysis in the results and discussion were logical and easy to follow. I do think at times there is some confusion/ambiguity regarding the sample sizes for some tissues. In the methods section, you mentioned that 3 brain samples (2 day 10, 1 day 14) and 1 heart sample (day 10) were excluded from analysis. When talking about Figure 2A, you said that the initiating VSG was detectable in 23/24 tissue samples from day 10. I was wondering if that was supposed to be 20/21 tissue samples? I had a similar comment with figure 3C and figure 4, where the legends say that n = 4 for each tissue. I think it would be helpful to mention that n=2 for day 10 brain samples and n = 3 for day 10 heat/day14 brain samples in the legends of figures 3 and 4 in case a reader did not catch that in the methods section. I also had two minor comments regarding figures. For 2A and 2C, since you are comparing the blood to tissue spaces collectively, I don’t think having the tissues being different colors is necessarily useful. It might be visually beneficial if all tissue samples were the same color (i.e. blue) like they are in 3B. Additionally, for 2A, 2C, and 5, the Y-axes say Log10(% parasites), but the tick marks show actual per cents.

    5. On 2022-10-22 02:13:33, user Martina Kathryn wrote:

      This was a great paper, very informative comparisons and analysis done. The only source of confusion was with the supplementary figures 1A and 1B. You stated that, "The number of VSGs in a sample did not correlate with either the number of reads aligned or the number of parasites in a sample 1A & B)" which I agree with but you added on to state that this was "suggesting that sampling of each population was sufficient" which I didn't understand. Also the labeling of the x-axes for figures 4B and 4C was really confusing. 4B- I interpreted the label as though this measurement was done in only one mouse, but then this wouldn't be possible because the mouse would have been killed on day 10 and measurements couldn't have been done on day 14. Not until I read the text section. Maybe I'd advise that you add n=4 to this figure to indicate that 4 mice were monitored for each tissue. This was the same case for 4C. Ideally, one is supposed to look at the figure and get all the necessary information from it without checking the text part of the results for more information about what the figure is communicating.

    1. On 2022-10-24 23:44:43, user CDSL JHSPH wrote:

      Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review your preprint article! I enjoyed reading the article and it was fun to learn a little more about whale songs and their potential influences. Understanding how vocal learning and conformity is especially important as the noise environment continues changing in the ocean. Overall, the article had a lot of information that supported how much fin whales depend on vocal learning and conformity.

      I felt that your abstract and introduction requires additional information to understand the paper. There was a clear definition for vocal learning, but conformity and what a singing season is was not well defined. Additional information on fin whales would have also been nice to better understand their behavior not in the context of song. I liked how you included other examples of species to gain a better understanding and it also helped show that this study could potentially translate to those species as well. It was clear what questions you were trying to answer with your study, and you defined your results clearly without going too deep into it.

      For the most part your methods and results were clear to understand even for someone who has no background in what was studied! In Figure 2, I thought that I had was to potentially add a comparison in Panel C to the 1998/1999 season. It would be interesting to see the change that occurred in all the locations in the ONA region instead of just seeing the one shown in Panel B. Figure 3 was clear to understand and it supported most of the claims that were made in the introduction. I thought it was very cool to see how many ways these figures could be interpreted. An additional suggestion that I have is for Figure 4, I felt like the figure caption was bare and was missing some information to make it easier to understand and there was not much detail into what this figure was supporting so I had to make my own inferences into what was being shown there. Additionally, frequency of note was spoken throughout the article so the frequency on the y-axis was confusing so potentially changing or clearly defining that axis title would be beneficial.

      The discussion section in your paper went into a lot of detail and at times felt like too much. The discussion of the results that you obtained were lost in a lot of the extra information that was in it and at times were confusing since it felt like it was jumping around too much. At times it felt like I was reading a review article on animal songs instead of results from a study, but some of this information may be beneficial to have in the introduction section instead. Overall, I thoroughly enjoyed getting to understand whale songs a little bit better and the results that came out of your work are very interesting and hopefully this can form a basis for future studies in other animals that use song.

    2. On 2022-10-24 00:05:14, user CDSL JHSPH wrote:

      This manuscript presents a wealth of supporting data for evidence of vocal learning and conformity among whale songs in the fin whale (Balaenoptera physalus). Romagosa and colleagues present a twenty-one yearlong observational study of three critical components of the songs produced by male fin whales. It is the first study to suggest a mechanism driving vocal learning and conformity in animal songs, specifically pertaining to the fin whale. Romagosa & colleagues’ comprehensive analysis includes a dearth of both temporal and spatial data. The assessment the inter-note interval (INI, i.e., rhythm), the 20-Hz note, and the High Frequency (HF) note of the fin whale song is used as a conduit by which the authors reveal patterns of change and adoption of different patterns over time. The authors use a wide geographical range, inclusive of 15 sampling locations grouped into 7 separate regions, with data collection spanning between 1999 and 2020. They provide thorough consideration of alternate interpretations of their data and use the existing literature to further bolster their proposed ideologies.

      This manuscript has immense potential to posit something novel to the field, based on the background the authors have provided. However, due to the seeming overreliance on existing literature in the discussion, limited exploration and elaboration on the data itself in the results section, and poor articulation of caveats in the sampling methodology, the significance of the findings presented are undermined. Based on the targeted journal, a re-organization of the manuscript’s structure may be suitable to address these more structural issues. Despite the incredible amount of data, there lacks thorough explanations of how the data directly supports the conclusions presented. The results section could be elaborated upon to increase the credibility of the stated conclusions (examples starting in line 93 through 106, 119 – 127, 136-144). The discussion section does not implicate the data presented in this paper in the conclusions being made by the authors as much as it should, and it seems to rely much more heavily on existing literature in the greater field (i.e., extending beyond marine mammals). Switching some of the description of the data from the discussion section into the results section will make both sections easier to read and understand. .

      As these studies are purely observational, the methodology should be highlighted more, and as stated previously, perhaps may merit a structural reorganization of the manuscript itself. Because of the several sampling differences such as those in instrumentation & manufacturer, including the supporting evidence for why these data are still usable and comparable is critical to the credibility of the work (see Supplementary Material, lines 30 – 50). This experiment should be included either in the main body of the text or highlighted more explicitly in the main body, so the reader knows to find it there. The inconsistencies between recording machinery need to be explained, as the authors have performed an additional study to verify these data. Using figure 1 to be referenced primarily by the methods section is a poor choice of ordering, and perhaps the visuals provided in figure 1 can be moved into the supplement since they are not showing any data. This would leave available a spot to move the experiment in the supplementary material into the main text.

      Additionally, including more detailed figure legends (i.e., explaining that each symbol represents an individual recording/represents one day, explaining the red circle in current figure 1A in the legend, etc.). The same descriptive wording used in the legend for Figure 3 (specifically the information provided in line 133 – 135) should be applied to all figures in both the main and supplemental data. The rationale for the groupings of regions in the histograms of INIs and HF note peaks in Figures 4A & B is unclear and not indicated. Figure 4B is not discussed in the text either. Having panels in figures that are not described in the text is confusing, as the reader cannot understand what the purpose is of what is being presented.

      Generally speaking, the manuscript was a delight to read. It was well-written, and I felt that the background and foundation for the work presented was laid out very well. This data that is being presented has exciting implications for the field and fills in a clear gap in knowledge. The amount of time and dedication that was given to these studies should not be understated. I felt that the authors framed their goals and provided comprehensive context for the material being shown. This research should be celebrated, and the authors should be pleased with the work that went into this manuscript!

    3. On 2022-10-22 22:22:22, user CDSL JHSPH wrote:

      Dear Romagosa and Colleagues,

      I enjoyed reading your article, and commend you for synthesizing a vast number of datasets from across different research groups, spanning many years. Just goes to show the strength of researcher collaboration for the purposes of broadening our understanding of important topics. I do, however, have some comments on your paper which I would like to share. I should preface this with a statement of reflexivity - noting that I am not a marine biologist or within an associated field of interest, but have a background in the social sciences and an interest in One Health. Further, as a current academic and researcher in the social sciences I view your work through the lenses inherent to my discipline. I acknowledge the limitation that my lack of prior technical knowledge in this field brings, and intend to provide a critical perspective that may conform to those that also view your paper without prior technical knowledge.

      That said, I was initially drawn to your article because of your title. As such, based on your title I was expecting to read about a novel new notion of 'song conformity among fin whales'. Through your background, and discussion sections, I learnt that song conformity is an established notion for many animals, and species of whales - including fin whales (Line 243). So, while the title is clear and short, it also leads the reader to expect to learn about a new concept that is 'song conformity', but you later note that evidence of song conformity exists among fin whales already. Perhaps your paper would benefit from a reevaluation of the title to clarify that you intend to show, through a synthesis of multiple study datasets, trends within fin whale songs over a long time horizon.

      In your abstract, I thought you presented your main arguments quite well (Lines 25-28), though could have added a little more detail on your methodological choice and your study population (male fin whales) - perhaps in Lines 23-24. In Line 29, you note that you found "evidence of vocal learning of rhythm" and "conformity" - these are strong findings - and I was keen to read more.

      I thoroughly enjoyed reading your introduction, and I was most interested in reading your problem statement - and more specifically, the gap in the literature that you were trying to fill. In Lines 59-63 you note four distinct gaps that is our understanding of (1) the functional mechanisms of vocal learning, (2) natural selection and learning strategies, (3) the benefits of song conformity and (4) individual decisions impacting song evolution. You also note that "vocal learning of rhythm is ... poorly understood" [Line 62], and research focuses on complex songs. You call for "a broader view" to piece a part the different mechanisms of vocal learning to better understand prevalence and evolution [Lines 63-65]. Here I was anticipating a little more detail on what you meant by "different mechanisms". Also, while it was certainly interesting to read about all the gaps in our understanding of vocal learning and conformity, it wasn't immediately clear to me which of these gaps your work was seeking to address. A little more clarity here would have helped.

      In your methods section, I was intrigued to read about the processes that were involved in the creation of your analytical dataset. It seems like you had some challenges synthesizing inconsistent recordings which created some gaps in your dataset, and necessitated the exclusion of some data. Since the data was so critical to your examination of trends in songs over time, it would have helped to provide a figure tracking the data itself - e.g., the amount/type/nature of data that was available to you, the amount/type/nature of data that was excluded, and the amount/type/nature of data that made it into your final analytical dataset. Furthermore, I would have liked to have read a little more about your statistical assumptions. You employ the use of histograms to compare song distributions among periods/regions, I would have liked to have read a little more about whether you performed statistical analyses to assess distributional similarities (KS test?).

      In your results section, Figure 2 was intended to demonstrate song changes over time. Using the ONA SE dataset you present avg. song INIs over time, a stacked bar chart summarizing the three song types within the period, and a spatial presentation of this stacked bar chart. Maybe I missed it, but it wasn't clear to me how you technically defined and labelled "hybrid" songs in your dataset - from Figure 2 Panel A I noticed song INIs that fell within the 12s-19s range but the confidence intervals appeared to overlap into both the 12s and 19s ranges. Without further information, this did not appear to be clear evidence of a hybrid song. Much more clarity on how you defined hybrid songs, as well as an accompanying (supplementary) table on statistical summaries would strengthen your work here in my opinion. Figures 3 and 4 intended to show long term song trends (in avg. song INIs and two song parameters), and distributional comparisons of song INIs for regions and periods where simultaneous recordings were made, respectively. Much more clarity on the organization and interpretation of the data for Figure 3A would have been appreciated. Multiple ocean regions are plotted on the same graph, and a trend line is plotted through them. My first question is, are these regions comparable enough to be plotted side-by-side? For in other words, did these regions start from the same origin point? Is the trend being largely driven by ONA or the BBIC?

      Finally, in your discussion section, you do a good job contextualizing your research. And, explain your results through factual and counter-factual arguments (e.g., these results can't mean 'this' because if they did 'this' is what we would have found). At times, you extend the meaning behind your results a little too far for comfort - for example, when describing your results in the context of mating [Lines 241-254]. The arguments make sense, but without further evidence, it veers into conjecture. Though, in my opinion, this is a problem with the way you've framed your discussion pieces rather than a problem with the content itself. It would have been helpful to read a section on the limitations of your study design, and limitations of your study findings which would have clarified areas where you noticed anomalous results (such as the Barents Sea findings).

      All-in-all good work, though as a lay-reader, I did need more information at times and some clarity on your processes.

    4. On 2022-10-21 20:50:34, user CDSL JHSPH wrote:

      Hello, I read your article. I knew nothing about whale song before this, but your article helped me realize the mystery and variability of whale song. In addition, I noticed that this research was over two decades. I really appreciate your persistence and dedication.

      I don't know anything about this area before, but I'd like to leave a few comments here. I apologize if there's anything inappropriate. As for panel 2C, the figure shows the INI song type spatial gradient in transition period. But do whales stay in one place? Can there be repeated measure? Is it possible that a particular whale or group of whales was sampled twice at two adjacent sampling location? Maybe you'd like to do a short one or two sentence discussion of the impact of whale migration on data collection.

      Also, have you tried using some type of tracer to track a particular whale? I was wondering if you could track the song of one whale, and the songs of other whales around it. If you have data on that, I'm very curious what that looks like.

      For the discussion section, personally, the reading experience is not that good. I felt like so many assumptions were thrown at me that it took me some time to sort out your central idea. If I may be so bold, would you consider re-section the paragraph, or making it a little bit more concise?

      Again, thank you for doing such an amazing research. That was eye-opening for me.

    5. On 2022-10-21 03:13:15, user CDSL JHSPH wrote:

      I had a lot of pleasure reading the article. I knew nothing about fin whales, so I had a lot of questions.<br /> If the public targeted by this article are not fin whale specialist, I think it could be helpful to add more information about their reproductive behavior and their immigration pattern. <br /> The question I asked myself were: Do the fine whales migrate? If they do what their migration pattern? Do they come back at the same place at the reproduction period? I think the article needs to give us the proof that population that measured overtime at different place are not the same, that there is no replacement of a group by another one, do the group get mixed? <br /> Since the authors are looking at evidence of song learning and conformity, I think it is important to ascertain that we are talking about different population across different geographic location and not the same group that would be recorded over different time period at different place. I don't think there was a tracker device, that would have help or at least it more information about the fin whale behavior during the reproduction period need to be clarify. I would suggest providing more information about the data collection, or in the discussion explain why all regions were not sampled in all years and time periods. Why was hydrophone channel used in the Canary Island, but the seismometer preferred for BBIC?<br /> The figure 4 does add any information, all seem well described by the 3 first figures. Maybe I missed, but I did not see in the discussion an explanation about the why there were no change in INI with the fin whale population in the Barents Sea. If there is no way to ascertain with this data that they were no population replacement, I would then add it in the limitation section.<br /> Those are the main points that I want to share, as a reader who is not the field of animal communication.

    1. On 2022-10-24 22:09:32, user Jorawar Sandhu wrote:

      Hello! I just wanted to start off by saying that I really enjoyed reading your paper! I’ve often read about this topic before, but this was a really novel take on the topic of antimicrobial resistance. Beginning with the introduction and abstract I thought there was sufficient background information provided on why this topic is important, and why it is relevant to study today. In addition, it was also clear to me what the goal of this paper was (studying the effects of ARM-1 on Mfd). However, I would have preferred to see a little more background information on the Mfd compound. I understood how it operates to produce mutations, but I wish this compound was expanded upon a little more. Perhaps including some information on whether this compound is only seen in bacteria, and if not, are there any analogs in other organisms? Moving on to the first experiment, this was the only part of the study I had a little trouble understanding. I understood the underlying mechanisms that displayed the relationship of Mfd to the RNAP molecule, and how the ARM-1 compound thwarts this relationship. I just wish a little more context was provided as to how you arrived from 43 hits to ARM-1. When focusing on the next three figures presented I think that these were all done very well. I will, however, suggest for figure 2 perhaps splitting up the figure into two separate figures/parts. The first part containing information for figures 2A and 2B, and the next part containing information for figures 2C and 2D. I suggest this because the two halves of figure 2 discuss information that deals with separate topics. I thought that figure 3 was very clear and displayed your findings quite well! The only suggestion I have here is to define what “CTL” is. I tried to find a specific definition for this term in the paper but was unable to do so. Figure 4 was quite clear, and I found everything quite easy to understand! Overall, I really enjoyed reading this paper. This was a very interesting look into something I think many people have heard of in at least some context. I am very interested to see where this research goes next, as I believe it has a lot of potential to create a very positive impact throughout the world.

    2. On 2022-10-23 23:34:31, user CDSL JHSPH wrote:

      I enjoyed this article. As for feedback, I gathered from the article that this research contributes to the notion that scientists need a new way to think about targeting antimicrobial-resistant bacteria. Here you provide the audience with a new method of preventing the bacteria from evolving at all. While previous interventions focused on killing the evolved bacteria. However, did you ask questions about addressing the bacteria that have already developed into something like, let’s say MRSA? Your approach evaluated in this research is new and innovative, but it does not mention the life of the bacteria after it has evolved as a limitation. With that said, I feel it would greatly benefit this article to contain a limitation section so you could reflect on possible improvements for future work and shortcomings of the current work. Other questions to address in this section would be what happens if AMR bacteria does evolve and what parameters are in place to inhibit it? Specifically, you leave the audience wondering how ARM-1 can be used medically. I feel since this is a huge component of why you did this research, it should be addressed in the conclusions section. How can it be used? For whom? What would access look like? Where is it most needed? Who and what countries could benefit? Why is this intervention the best course of action for people? How could it actually be used as an anti-evolution drug? There is a disconnect for me when I compare the outcome of the research and how it can meaningfully impact medicine beyond just stating that it can. Although this paper was scientific, it is dense for someone coming from a non-science background to digest. I did feel it was logical and well-written but could have benefited from being broken up into more sections. I found myself rereading the results section since you combined the methods, results, and figures altogether and only had four subheadings. Although you have a discussion section, I felt that your discussion section was actually in your results section and that your discussion section acted as a conclusion section. This made it challenging for the reader to synthesize the results section in an efficient manner. From reading the summary, I felt the main idea is that the inhibition of Mfd activity by the lead compound ARM-1 delays the development of mutations and resistance acquisition in pathogens. This finding then demonstrates that molecular mechanisms are targetable which ultimately could prevent AMR in future pathogens. If this is not what you are trying to convey, then I would advise reworking your summary and or introduction. I agree with others that replication of the study could benefit more concrete findings to solidify the argument this article is making. I do feel this paper dives into some really interesting questions which I feel need to be explored further. In terms of the next steps and future experiments, figuring out how your research fits into the lifecycle of the AMR bacteria could prove insightful. Overall, good job, it is an important research topic that has not been addressed in the way you present it and I feel it is adding to the field of science. Thank you for your contributions.

    3. On 2022-10-23 05:42:14, user Maxine (CDSL) wrote:

      Hi, <br /> I felt that this pre print did an excellent job at showing the importance of AMR. <br /> For this comment I am just going to address the introduction and discussion as those are the parts that peaked my interest the most. <br /> For the abstract and introduction, i felt that it was very thorough and descriptive in describing AMR, and what our next steps as scientist and researchers should be to combat AMR. Great background information overall, nothing much to critique. <br /> The discussion I felt that you all, <br /> elaborated very well on their findings, missed out on discussing further research. I also felt that it was not as interesting as the introduction and could have added a bit more future research. Also felt that a lot of scientific jargon was used, which should be avoided when trying to translate to the general public.

    4. On 2022-10-22 17:29:44, user Alwyn Guan wrote:

      Hi there,

      This is a very intertesting article for me to read, as it does give me a new perspective on how to tackle AMR other than the endless new inhibitor and new resistance loop. I was also very glad to see that ARM-1 can delay the onset of AMR in multiple strains and even in strains that already devleoped resistance, which looks much promising/hopeful. However, I do have some questions about your experimental design and results. So for your highthrough-put drug screen, I saw that you used two plasmids, one with IPTG-inducible promoter, the other one with LacI/LacO roadblock. I just wonder if IPTG, which mimics allolactose, would have any off-target effect on LacI repressor? I can clearly tell that your ARM-1 inhibits mfd by your following results, but I was just wondering why you did not use any promoter that is inducible by any compounds other than allolactose analog. (Also I could only see panel 1a for supplementary figure 1, did you forget to upload the other panels?)

      Another question is about Figure 2c. I noticed that with the presence or absence of ARM-1, the EC values are roughly the same in this figure. You reasoned it as "The reduction in the ECs in the presence of ARM-1 is most likely because, at equilibrium, when RNAP cannot dissociate from DNA, it cannot re-initiate transcription, consequently preventing new EC formation.", which did not make much sense to me at first. If that is the case, the EC value with ARM-1 should still be higher than that of the group without ARM-1, unless ARM-1 is not working at all. So I checked the supplementary material, and found that you repeated the expeiment, and the mean value for ARM-1 -ve group is 0.40, that for ARM-1 +ve group (different conc) range from 0.6-0.8, and this makes much more sense now. So I think if you should put the mean value in Fig 2c instead? (For supplementary figure 3, in panel a I saw two 25 and one 12.5 microM ARM-1 tested, but in panel b I saw two 12.5 microM and one 25 microM in the table, you might want to double check on that.)

      Again, this is an interesting paper for me to read and I really enjoyed it. Thank you very much for your effort on combating with AMR.

    5. On 2022-10-21 19:59:23, user Billy wrote:

      This was a well conducted study to identify a small molecule that could inhibit the development of antimicrobial resistance. The authors identified a small molecule (ARM-1) that inhibited the RNA polymerase-associated DNA translocase Mfd, a protein shown to be involved in the development of antimicrobial resistance, and inhibited its ability to dissociate stalled RNAPs from DNA and had a modest impact on intrinsic ATPase activity of Mfd. The assays used were well suited for the study and revealed ARM-1's ability to inhibit Mfd and reduce the rate of mutation in bacteria grown in culture and during the course of infection of a human cell line. The authors also highlight that there was no detectable resistance of the bacteria to ARM-1 and that ARM-1 is able to deter the development of anitmicrobial resistance in diverse bacterial species. Only minor edits to spelling and grammar would be suggested. For example, the figure caption for Figure 4 says that the "Concentration of ARM-1 used against S. enterica is 50 uM," however, S. enterica was not one of the species indicated in the figure. Overall, this manuscript represents a significant advance in the battle against antimicrobial resistance and opens the door to further studies that explore the effects of this or other similar molecules in a mammalian system during the course of infection.

    6. On 2022-10-21 03:03:05, user H Bao wrote:

      It’s very refreshing to interpretate the AMR problem in the evolutionary point of view. The idea of inhibiting the evolution of antimicrobial resistance is fascinating and creative. And I’m very excited to see a brand-new potential solution to AMR. But I think this paper can be even better if there’s more clarification for people without rich related backgrounds. <br /> As for the abstract and introduction part, I understand that researchers chose Mfd as a target based on their previous research. But I’m curious if there is any other reason why they chose Mfd as a target? For example, if there is any other advantages of targeting Mfd. Or if there have already been studies focusing on molecules targeting Mfd so there’s already material for this research. Also, I’m curious whether there are any other possible targets for anti-evolution. Maybe going deeper into possible mechanisms of anti-evolution could help me even better understand the importance of this research.<br /> As for the methods, I believe it’s already clear enough. One thing I’m interested in but not explained in the article is that, where did the authors get these candidate compounds. Is it based on previous research or specific design. I think giving more information in this part may be helpful for clarifying the origin or differences between theses leading compounds.<br /> The figures and results are very clear and closely related to the hypothesis under testing. It may be clearer to me if the authors can briefly explain why the chose these strains of bacteria for detection. For example, for what reasons why they can be representative.<br /> The discussion part is clear and thorough. I was hoping there could be more exploration on this result. For example, I am curious whether similar target exist in other pathogens like fungi. If there are any other major limitations for this method or leading compound. Moreover, there could be more explorations on the potential further research directions since this idea is refreshing and inspiring.<br /> Overall, I really like the idea of re-thinking solving AMR form the root, and interpretating this problem from evolution’s point of view.

    7. On 2022-10-20 17:33:27, user Amy Chen wrote:

      I really liked reading this article! It provided new insight on antibiotic resistance and provided a new approach that could have potential to be developed into drugs for future use. It is easy to see the big picture when reading through the summary, however there was no clear hypothesis to the study but only a sentence about the big picture of what the methods contained. Including a hypothesis may be better to communicate what the goal is of this study. Readers do know what steps were involved but it may be unclear at first why are we testing this and what results or conclusions are we trying to get to. the results and figures did support each other and each method had correlated figures that showed the results from that method and made it easy for me to understand the results. However, because the result and methods are grouped into one big portion, it was a bit hard to follow the flow of how the experiment was done. I had to go back and forth between each subheading to be able to have a big picture of what the methods were. The results were also scattered in each section and I had to go through the whole results section to be able to have a summary of results. If I were trying to duplicate results, this may take me more time to go through as there is no separate methods section. I would have to read through everything for each step of the research. <br /> I liked how there were analysis of in vivo and in vitro as well as biochemistry of ARM-1. Yet there was not a lot of replication done. With replications of study, it could help strengthen the findings, although sone findings here are consistent with previous findings, which does strengthen the argument. I liked how there were a lot of references, however a lot were from 10 years or older, which may be outdated. It would be better to include more recent findings or studies to strengthen the arguments. Overall, this paper did provide insight to AMR and did contribute to the community.

    1. On 2022-10-24 16:48:31, user Jonathan Eisen wrote:

      Very interesting paper. I note - in 2000 we published a paper that is somewhat related to what you report here. See https://genomebiology.biome....

      In this we reported on how comparisons of closely / moderately closely related bacterial genomes showed that the distance a gene was from the origin of replication was conserved but the side of the origin it was on was not. In comparisons of very close relatives, one can see the inversions that led to this pattern. In comparisons of slightly more distant relatives, one could not really see the inversions but we saw an X-like pattens of conservation.

      This has been seen now in many many other comparisons of bacterial and archaeal genomes.

      We discuss in the paper possible explanations for why this pattern is seen including mutation bias (e.g., more symmetric inversions than others) or selection (e.g., distance a gene is from the origin).

    1. On 2022-10-23 03:07:17, user Wenwu Wu wrote:

      An interesting study. Genes associated with cuticular wax and flavonoid biosynthetic pathways are highly expressed in leafy bracts, likely shedding lights. I wonder whether these genes are among the convergent natural selected genes in the species.

    1. On 2022-10-20 21:34:50, user Moshe Tsvi Gordon wrote:

      In the third and fourth panel of Figure 2F it looks like the low FRET <br /> states might be a result of photobleaching. In those traces did you see <br /> recovery to the higher FRET state or was the transition to a low FRET <br /> state permanent?

    1. On 2022-10-19 06:48:27, user zbfz wrote:

      How is the project going ? Why the manuscript is withdrawn ? It seems the data presented here is somewhat contradictroy with their previous publication (http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j...:YhmCqGPuTSJAWIaPrcf1BIWgXMc "http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.chom.2012.07.009)") showing that co-injection of Pa + Mm (Fig.2) didn't reduce neutrophils recruitment VS injection of Pa alone, suggesting not a inhibitory role of Mm but neutrophils are invisible to Mm.

    1. On 2022-10-18 15:12:35, user Shaun Mahony wrote:

      This is an interesting paper that applies neural networks to model ATAC-seq and TF binding data in Plasmodium for the first time. However, it would be useful to provide a more detailed description of the methods, particularly to clarify the following points:

      Q1: The training labels are applied to 200bp bins, but the input sequences are expanded to 1Kbp centered on each bin. I'm confused about how the labels propagate when the windows are expanded. Let's say you have a negative bin that neighbors a positive bin. When you expand the 1Kbp window around the negative bin, the input sequence will encompass the positive bin. Is this 1Kbp input then labeled as positive or negative?

      Q2: When you split the data into training/validation/test, do you randomly choose bins or restrict them to particular chromosomes? If you randomly choose 200bp bins for your test data, won't the sequences from the test bins also be present in the training set (because of the way that windows are expanded to 1Kbp)?

      Q3: How were the Enformer and Basenji2 models trained? Are they trained on all data at once (i.e., multi-headed output model) or on each dataset separately?

      Q4: According to Supp. Table 1, most models include the following hyperparameter settings: convKnernal1st=320, convKnernal2ed=480. These hyperparameters are labeled as follows in the table: "convKnernal1st: The filter size of first convolution layer; convKnernal2ed: The second size of first convolution layer". I'm confused by this description. Do these hyperparameters represent the filter width or the number of filters in each layer? I'm presuming the latter, but then what width filters were used?

      Q5: The Github doesn't seem to contain code for training the models; is this code available?

    1. On 2022-10-17 21:41:43, user Eric Martin wrote:

      Thank you for releasing this preprint of your efforts to improve our understanding of when multi-task pQSAR models will be better than single-task models. I have a few questions and comments whose answers might also be helpful to readers of your final published version. The first regards the large performance difference between the kinase and gpcr/safety data sets. Besides the differences you mention in the Discussion, a huge difference is the quality of the single-task RFR models shown in figures 4a and 5a. Judging from the plots, for the kinase models, the median RFR correlation appears to be r2~0.02 and maybe 3% have r2>0.15. It appears that the for the GPCR/Safety models median r2~0.5, and 90% have r2>0.15. RFR is a very local method, strongly influenced by near neighbors. I have only seen such high r2 for RFR when members of the test sets have very close neighbors in the training sets. I would anticipate that the Tanimoto similarity between members of the test set to the nearest member of the training set for the gpcr/safety data is much higher than the kinases. It would be great to see histograms of the distribution of this value for both the kinase and gpcr/safety training/test set splits used in the RFR models from figures 4 and 5. This is very important, because the main purpose of multi-task modeling is to increase the applicability domain. The multi-task models are informed by the compounds from all assays, rather than just those from each individual assay. If the test set has near neighbors in the training set, the applicability domain is not challenged, so there will be little or no advantage to multi-task modeling. If this difference is large, it could be at least as important as the factors you discussed.

      Another less critical difference between the kinase and gpcr/safety data sets, but worth mentioning in the discussion, is that the latter was aggregated across assays by target. The kinase data set kept assays for the same target distinct, because activity of a compound against a target is not defined, and differences between assays lead to incommensurate results. Indeed, a problem with ExcapeDB is that it already aggregates across assays for a target. Incidentally, the text also says that the gpcr/safety measurements were converted to nM, and measurements for the same target were averaged. I assume averaging (and modeling) was done as log(concentration), not directly as nM?

      Finally, the text says "partial least squares (PLS) models are built for each assay, using the measured values in the profile for the rest of the assays as features. ... When the model is used for inference, missing values in the sparse profile are filled in with predictions from the RF models; these together with the measured values are used by the PLS models for the final activity predictions" It thus reads as if the RFR predictions were not used to impute missing values in PLS model training. I assume the missing values were filled with RFR predictions for PLS training as well as prediction?

    1. On 2022-10-17 14:06:24, user Yuta Otsuka wrote:

      The first part of the title, "Root twisting drives halotropism", does not seem to be indicated by presented data. Am I missing something?

    1. On 2022-10-17 09:00:34, user Iratxe Puebla wrote:

      Review coordinated via ASAPbio’s crowd preprint review

      This review reflects comments and contributions by Ruchika Bajaj, Sree Rama Chaitanya Sridhara and Sara El Zahed. Review synthesized by Ruchika Bajaj.

      This study has developed a novel one-step methodology for the incorporation of membrane proteins from cells to lipid Salipro nanoparticles for structure-function studies using surface plasmon resonance (SPR) and single-particle cryoelectron microscopy (cryo-EM), which is a profound technology in the field of membrane protein structural biology. We raise some points that may strengthen the manuscript below:

      Main section, 4th paragraph “resuspended in digitoxin-containing buffer”- Does the sentence mean that membrane proteins were solubilized by detergent before reconstitution into salipro particles? Are salipro and digitoxin added at the same step? If this is the case, it is unclear how one can distinguish between the step wise solubilization and reconstitution or direct reconstitution into salipro particles. Further discussion on the mechanism of reconstitution would be helpful. In the same paragraph, the fragment “to increase membrane fluidity and render lipids” raises the question of whether the concentration of digitonin was optimized to balance the increase in membrane fluidity but not rendering the solubilization of membrane proteins.

      Main section, 4th paragraph, “the formation of saponin-containing mPANX1-GFP particles was assessed by analytical size exclusion chromatography using fluorescence detector” - It is assumed that fluorescence is detected from GFP. As the construct expressed is PANX1-GFP, GFP fluorescence signal will be received from reconstituted as well as not reconstituted PANX1. Is saponin specific signal being used as a signal for measuring the reconstitution of PANX1-GFP? In the same paragraph, “PreScission protease for on-column cleavage” is mentioned. Is GFP still intact in the expressed PANX-1 or is it cleaved? A diagram of these procedures showing the various steps will be helpful for readers.

      Main section, 4th paragraph “SDS-PAGE revealed the formation of pure and homogeneous Salipro-mPANX1 nanoparticles”- However, extra bands are present above the major band in Figure 1E, can some comment be provided on this point. Possible explanations for the additional bands could be post translational modifications or degradation of mPANX1.

      Methodology section, “membrane protein reconstitution screening using fluorescence-detection size exclusion chromatography (FSEC)” -The amount of salipro is given in ug. A comment on the ratio of protein to salipro particles would be important to decide the concentration of salipro with respect to the mass of the cell pellet.

      Figure 1G: The molecular weight of Salipro-mPANX1 particles is mentioned to be approximately 466kD. mPANX1 weighs about 48kD and heptamer will be 336kDa. A discussion on comparison of experimental and actual molecular weight would be interesting.

      hPANX1 was expressed in sf9 insect cells. A description regarding trials of expression of this construct in expi293 cells would be informative.

      Supplemental Figure 1B: The gel is overloaded and shows multiple bands for hPANX1, recommend selecting an alternative image for hPANX.

      Paragraph 6A phrase, “challenged with bezoylbenzoyl-ATP(bzATP), spironolactone and cabenoxolone” - Please explain the meaning of ‘challenged’ here.

      Supplementary Figure 2: Paragraph 6 mentions “binding constant could not be determined”. Please provide an explanation for this. Is it about the saturation phase not being approachable because of the feasibility of the binding experiment at higher concentration of cabenoxolone?

      The last summary sentence in Paragraph 6 is not clear, recommend rephrasing it.

      Figure 2A shows that Salipro particles have His tag. This suggests that an additional step of affinity purification with His tag could have been used to distinguish or separate reconstituted and un-reconstituted PANX1.

      Supplementary figure 4: Please explain whether the datasets for samples in the presence and absence of fluorinated lipids were combined together.

      Paragraph 8, “intracellular helices were not well resolved” - Please comment on a possible explanation. Does the Salipro scaffold contribute to the resolution? Please mention any future possibilities regarding improving the resolution by modifying the salipro scaffold or alternative scaffold. In the same paragraph, rmsd is mentioned at promoter level, please comment on how this value changes at heptamer level and why is it important to report the rmdd value to appreciate the direct reconstitution methodology.

      Last paragraph 10, “future membrane protein research” - Please comment on the utility of this methodology on prokaryotic membrane proteins, bacterial outer or inner membrane proteins or eukaryotic membrane proteins. Some more examples of reconstitution with the same method will support the applicability of this methodology on diverse kinds of membrane proteins. A discussion section comparing this methodology to other methods would also be useful for readers.

    1. On 2022-10-16 16:15:13, user Alex Crits-Christoph wrote:

      In this preprint, Washburrne and colleagues put forth some reasoning and basic analysis that they believe suggests the viral genomic data from the early SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is consistent with a single spillover event. This is in contrast to the work of Pekar et al. 2022 Science, which concluded that the genomic data from the early pandemic is best explained by multiple independent spillover events from an animal population. However, this preprint misrepresents the findings of Pekar et al. 2022, and makes several conceptual errors that fundamentally undermine their conclusions.

      There are 4 basic features of the early SARS-CoV-2 phylogeny that are each largely inconsistent with a single spillover event:

      A Lineage A ancestral haplotype is inconsistent with the molecular clock: Lineage B exhibits more divergence from the root of the tree than would be expected if lineage A were the ancestral virus in humans (Pekar Fig S20, S19).

      Two basal polytomies of lineages A and B were formed at the start of the SARS-CoV-2 epidemic, whereas most single introductions within a city, location, or event are characterized by a single polytomy.

      There are no plausible candidates for intermediate genomes observed for lineages A and B.

      Both Lineage A and Lineage B are connected to and were present during the outbreak at the Huanan Seafood Market, and there was sustained case transmission within the market for up to a month.

      The authors have *attempted* (unsuccessfully) to address points 2 and 3, but they have entirely ignored points 1 and 4, which are still highly pertinent. All four of these observations need to be explained by any hypothesis of SARS-CoV-2 origins.

      Now, on to specific scientific errors in this work:

      1. In the first section, the authors describe how superspreading events can create polytomies, as do introduction events. This is an intuitive observation, as both superspreading events and successful introductions can result from rapid transmission from a singular infection source. What they fail to note, however, is that superspreading events and introduction events are characterized by a single polytomy, not by two. Here is a simple list of introduction/superspreading events characterized by a single polytomy:

      New Zealand https://www.nature.com/arti...<br /> Lombardy https://www.nature.com/arti...<br /> Louisiana (Mardi Gras superspreading event) https://www.sciencedirect.c...<br /> Xinfadi market in Beijing https://academic.oup.com/ns...

      In none of the above cases of introduction/superspreader events do we observe two basal polytomies separated by two mutations with no intermediates as we do for early SARS-CoV-2 in Wuhan.

      Ironically, the authors cite Popa et al. 2020 Nature Communications on the spread of SARS-CoV-2 in Austria as an example of how polytomies can be linked to superspreader events. However, this work elegantly describes how each polytomy results from a separate introduction event into Austria:

      Vienna-1 clade/polytomy: connected to an index patient from Italy.<br /> Tyrrol-1 clade/polytomy: phylogenetically linked to North America.<br /> Vienna-3 clade/polytomy: connected to Cluster OG, an independent travel-associated cluster.<br /> Tyrrol-3 clade/polytomy: connected to Cluster D, an independent travel-associated cluster.

      So indeed, the cited work is actually more strong evidence that introduction events — including those of a ‘superspreader’ nature — are characterized by a single polytomy. We see no instances of a single superspreader event creating two concurrent polytomies, separated by two or more mutations, as we observe with the rise of lineages A and B in Wuhan. It is not merely the existence of polytomies in a phylogeny that is relevant, but the observed ratio of polytomy frequency and size, which Pekar et al. simulations predict would arise very infrequently with a single introduction.

      Further, the authors are incorrect in their characterization of the FAVITES models used by Pekar et al. FAVITES has been modified to accurately recapitulate SARS-CoV-2 superspreading nature; see Worobey et al. 2020 Science, Figure S2. Washburne et al. say:

      “and the transmission model of FAVITES will extend superspreading events over timescales that within-host evolution can occur”. However, the simulations in Pekar et al., 2022, and in FAVITES more broadly, account for within-host evolution: the coalescent process and subsequent mutational evolution are agnostic to subsampling and within-host evolution.

      1. In the second section, the authors describe how ascertainment biases and biased contact tracing could affect the recovered phylogeny. The core conceptual errors here are namely:

      The lineage A/B split and the basal polytomies of SARS-CoV-2 are still obvious in any phylogeny of early SARS-CoV-2 even when excluding genomes from the city of Wuhan: this phylogenetic structure is factually not an artifact of sampling, and anyone is welcome to build a tree of sequences before April 2020 excluding those from Wuhan and demonstrate this.

      Likewise, lineage A is still incompatible with the molecular clock when genomes linked to the Huanan Market are excluded. Even in sequences from February 2020 can you see a ‘lag’ in the evolution of lineage A from its root compared to lineage B (Pekar Fig S20).

      The authors propose no explanation of how contact tracing of patients connected to one market could produce a phylogenetic artifact of two large, basal polytomies: indeed, their simple analysis in Fig 2 shows that contact tracing will preferentially sample just one lineage, not two. Small polytomies are common throughout the SARS-CoV-2 phylogeny.

      A contact tracing bias cannot explain a lack of intermediate genomes between lineages A and B into itself. Firstly, if the evolution between the lineages occurred in humans, the patients with intermediate genomes should be contact traceable from normal lineage B patients. Second, even if they were missed in Wuhan, we would see the phylogenetic descendents of the intermediate genotype spread to other countries, unless this lineage just happened to be wiped out very quickly.

      As discussed by the Worobey et al. 2021 Science perspective, several of the earliest known SARS-CoV-2 patients were emphatically not contact traced from others — they were independently noticed in different hospitals throughout the city. This includes the earliest known case of lineage A, who was not contact traced, and had no noted connection to the Huanan Seafood Market, but after the fact was realized to live just a few blocks away (and shopped at a nearby market).

      Several other data points that together point towards the known early case data in Wuhan not being strongly characterized by ascertainment bias are discussed in the supplementary text of Worobey et al. 2022 Science section on this topic.

      1. In the third section, the authors put forth the possibility that several sampled genomes were intermediate sequences of lineage A and lineage B. Again here, they both misunderstand the data that they are reporting on, and misconstrue the methods and findings of Pekar et al.

      They propose that a set of genomes obtained from Sichuan may constitute C/C intermediate haplotypes between lineages A and B. However, the data does not support this, as elegantly explained by Zach Hensel on Twitter: <br /> https://twitter.com/alchemy...<br /> https://twitter.com/alchemy...

      Washburne writes: "It is difficult to see how sequencing errors, which are random, could occur at exactly the same position in these 12 early outbreak genomes."

      However, what they do not understand is that several of these genomes were plagued by systematic bioinformatics errors, not random sequencing errors. This was likely due to a known issue with a pipeline that imputed the reference genotype in loci with no read support, instead of replacing those positions with N characters. As demonstrated by Hensel above, for this particular dataset with poor coverage, that included the vast majority of samples which had no coverage at the relevant sites.

      Further, the authors misunderstand why certain genomes have been excluded from Pekar et al. The deciding observation is not the quality of the underlying sequencing data — although that is certainly likely the hidden cause — but the observation that some genomes share multiple polymorphisms with derived lineages in A and B, strongly indicating that they are phylogenetically aberrant. In all scenarios in which underlying data are available, it has been confirmed that these phylogenetic outliers are plagued by poor data quality issues, with missing data that has often been incorrectly imputed. In cases without the underlying data, the only alternative explanation would have to be a highly unusual degree of recurrent mutations. As this is fully explained in Pekar et al. 2022, I highly suggest the authors attempt a re-read to understand the reasoning of how we can identify these incorrect genomes.

      There are two more “minor” (in the grand scheme of things) errors in this section:

      “Lineage A and Lineage B, are separated by only two defining single nucleotide changes (SNCs), at positions 8782 and 21844”

      This is incorrect - the second position should be 28144, not 21844. This is wrong throughout the manuscript.

      "Intermediate sequences suggest there may not be two basal polytomies"

      Polytomies can be separated by a single mutation and still be polytomies: there is a basal polytomy in lineage A, and a separate basal polytomy in lineage B. The existence of intermediate genomes would not preclude the presence of these two polytomies.

      In sum, neither of the three points raised by Washburne and colleagues are in fact relevant to the hypothesis of multiple spillovers of SARS-CoV-2. Finally, it is also important to briefly discuss a broader conceptual error made by the authors. As they write:

      "Far from being able to conclude two spillover events, both hypotheses - natural origin and lab origin - are still on the table."

      This quote (along with knowledge of their past works) makes evident the aim of the authors: to reject the possibility of multiple SARS-CoV-2 spillovers because it is a finding largely inconsistent with their preferred laboratory origin hypothesis. They are correct in thinking that multiple spillovers of SARS-CoV-2 cannot easily be explained by a hypothesis of laboratory emergence. They are, however, incorrect in their statement that a lack of evidence for multiple spillovers would “put the lab origin hypothesis on the table”. There is an astounding degree of evidence against the possibility of laboratory emergence, primarily:

      (1) the complete lack of epidemiological contacts traced to the WIV, and the March 2020 seronegativity of Shi Zhengli’s group, <br /> (2) the geographic epicenter of the pandemic was in Hankou, Wuhan, not Wuchang, where the WIV resides, <br /> (3) the detailed insight we have into the research ongoing at the WIV in 2018-2019, including CoV sequences submitted to GenBank in 2018 (Yu Ping et al.) and Latinne et al. 2020 (submitted Oct 6 2019), multiple publicly available theses and papers, interviews, collaborator emails, US intelligence investigations, and unfunded grant proposals: all of which has so far indicated a lack of a SARS-CoV-2 progenitor at WIV, <br /> (4) the preponderance of evidence from the known early cases within the city of Wuhan, which were either linked to or centered around the Huanan Seafood Market, including the very first cases first identified in hospitals as reported by independent journalists as described in Worobey 2021 Science perspective,<br /> (5) the positive viral samples from an animal cage, a freezer, a defeathering machine, and the drains and ground of wildlife selling stalls within the western half of the Huanan Seafood Market, the half to which most human cases were also linked, and <br /> (6) direct and geographic links of patients and environmental sampling firmly establishing that both early SARS-CoV-2 lineages A and B were first identified in connection to the Huanan Seafood Market.

      Put otherwise, it is clear that the authors misrepresent and misunderstand the reasons why multiple spillovers have been proposed. Contrary to their beliefs, it is not to undermine or reject the laboratory hypothesis. The clear evidence against that hypothesis is well described in Holmes et al. 2021 Cell, The WHO Mission Report, and Worobey et al. 2022 Science— it is entirely incidental that the likelihood of multiple spillovers also happens to be inconsistent with their hypothesis.

      Why then has the possibility of multiple spillovers been proposed? Because the genomic data from the early SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is *peculiar*, and these peculiarities have so far only been adequately explained by models incorporating multiple spillovers. It is as simple as that.

    2. On 2022-10-14 11:40:10, user Zach Hensel wrote:

      Most of the C/C sequences discussed in this manuscript come from a single study (Lin et al 2021 DOI: 10.1016/j.chom.2021.01.015) that reports methods inconsistent with Washburne et al concluding that associated GISAID records represent complete, full-length sequences. For example, the very first sequence shown in Table 1 in Washburne et al, EPI_ISL_451351, corresponds to sample SC-PHCC1-030. Table S2 shows that this sample has only 89.4% coverage with at least 1 read and only 63.2% coverage with at least 10 reads. Yet, the associated GISAID record is full length with zero Ns. Clearly these are consensus Wuhan-Hu-1 genomes modified by detected variations, and this is confirmed in the manuscript by Lin et al that is cited by Washburne et al:

      For Nanopore sequencing data, the ARTIC bioinformatics pipeline for COVID (https://artic.network/ncov-... was used to call single nucleotide changes, deletions and insertions relative to the reference sequence. The final consensus genomes were generated for each sample based on the variants called in each position.

      This is not limited to Sichuan sequences, but also to Wuhan samples from the same study.

      Furthermore, Table 1 in Washburne et al includes a sample that was, in fact, considered in Pekar et al. EPI_ISL_453783 is a second record for EPI_ISL_452363 (identical sample ID, patient age, sampling date, and sequence).

      Multiple authors of this manuscript have promoted their claimed discovery of new intermediate genomes on social media for the past several weeks and have been repeatedly been informed of these and other errors in their claims and have yet to make any corrections.

      Edit 17/October/2022 -- Authors Washburne and Massey have responded that they are aware of this comment.<br /> Washburne: "I stand by every word."<br /> Massey: "grist to the mill lol"

    1. On 2022-10-13 04:34:53, user W John Martin wrote:

      A Figure was inadvertantly ommited from the uploaded article. I will work on having it included: The Legend of the Figure is included below

      Legend: Photo of an ethidium bromide-stained 8-laned agarose gel electrophoresis. The arrow points to lane 4 and shows the migration of a portion of the DNA that was extracted from the filtered and ultracentrifuged supernatant of stealth virus-1 infected MRHF cells. Lane 3 directly beneath the arrow shows the migration of another portion of the extracted DNA that was digested using EcoRI enzyme prior to electrophoresis. Lane is EcoRI digested DNA obtained from the lysate of the infected MRHF cells. Lanes 1 and 3 are HindIII and Bst-II lambda phage DNA markers, the largest of which are 23,130 and 8,454 nucleotide base pairs, respectively. The lower staining material in lanes 3, 4, and 6 is RNA. Reproduced from reference (1) with permissio

    1. On 2022-10-15 11:39:10, user René Janssen wrote:

      Dear authors,

      In my opinion this study is very well done, well written and with very interesting outcomes. You are mentioning pollution by grooming already. Please add that this pollution is coming by timber conservation methods; now stays the pollution route unclear.

      The concept of the memory test is comparable with of McFarland (1998) (see https://doi.org/10.32469/10... for Permethrin and as you stated by Hsiao et al (2016) for Imidacloprid; Wu et al (2020) shows further that Imidacloprid has also effect on the echolocation for bats. It would be good to state this effect more clear in your paper, now this stays is a bit vague. It would be worthwhile to compare and contrast the results of these three very same outcomes in three different studies with three very different pesticides together. This would make the study more valuable than it is now already.

      Many thanks for doing this excellent study and well written paper.

      All the best,

      René Janssen<br /> The Netherlands

    1. On 2022-10-15 10:37:39, user Prof. T. K. Wood wrote:

      Previously, pseudouridine modifications in 23S rRNA by RluD of E. coli facilitated persister resuscitation (doi:10.1111/1462-2920.14828, 2020). Sould be cited.

    1. On 2022-10-15 09:35:56, user Iratxe Puebla wrote:

      Review coordinated via ASAPbio’s crowd preprint review

      This study has developed a tool to characterize small molecule modulators of RNA-protein binding events. Please see below a few points which may help strengthen the manuscript.

      • The term “temporal” is used multiple times in the paper, to facilitate clarity for readers from different disciplines, it may be useful to provide some further explanation or context for the term.

      • Introduction section, “independent datasets have failed to reach consensus”, please provide some brief explanation about those independent datasets mentioned.

      • Introduction section, last paragraph “We apply TRIBE ID to profile cytoplasmic G3BP1-RNA interactions …” - further explanation of these three processes linked together would be helpful.

      • Figure 1, please provide some further explanation for the difference between TRIBE and TRIBE-ID. Since the dimerization is forced by rapamycin, a control experiment to explain artifact binding would be helpful.

      • In the section, “Rapamycin-mediated dimerization of G3BP1-FRB and FKBP-ADAR”, recommend adding some clarification about the goal of this experiment, which could be understanding either native processes or in a rapamycin-dependent manner.

      • In section, “G3BP1 TRIBE analysis with human and Drosophila ADAR2 catalytic domains” - suggest commenting on the reasoning for ideal ADAR to possess characteristics like “high editing activity when dimerized or fused to G3BP1”. Are these characteristics important to increase signal/noise ratio in the assay? Also, an explanation of T375G mutation and control experiments with wild type ADAR for any inhibition effect for Figure 2 would be helpful.

      • In the section, “Temporally controlled G3BP1-RNA interaction analysis with TRIBE-ID”, please clarify whether the experiment described in Figure 3 provides information about the time of interaction between RNA and G3BP1.

      • A paragraph describing any limitations and other possible applications of this tool on other systems would add to the manuscript.

    1. On 2022-10-15 07:19:46, user Rick Webb wrote:

      Fixation using glutaraldehyde and processing at room temperature can cause major artefacts in the structure of bacteria. The nucleoid, for example, looks nothing like it does in real life, its structure is grossly changed. So it would be good to see these results verified using techniques like high pressure freezing and freeze substitution where the structural preservation will be less artifactual.

    1. On 2022-10-14 20:53:22, user Charles Warden wrote:

      Hi,

      Thank you very much for posting this preprint!

      If you have not already noticed, I believe you have a typo in Figure 1:

      "Isoform ~~c~~uantification" --> "Isoform quantification"

      Best Wishes,<br /> Charles

    1. On 2022-10-14 14:54:32, user Kevin McKernan wrote:

      The conflict of interest section is misleading. It should clearly spell out that these authors are competitors of the company that hosts the largest dataset they chose not to use (Medicinal Genomics). The reasons provided for ignoring this data are not compelling given their own manuscript cites many authors who have made use of such data in peer reviewed settings (Hurgobin, Henry, Allen, Joly). The comment about a single preprint using this data not being peer reviewed is disingenuous given the weight of the other authors peer reviewed work. The only other sequencing data, the manuscript does considers are from entities that have exited the Cannabis genomics services business and no longer pose a commercial threat to the authors (Phylos and Sunrise genomics). These commercial biases are important for the reader to understand.

    1. On 2022-10-13 19:16:01, user BacillusBaRosh wrote:

      Author responses to feedback posted on hypothes.is - cut and paste because could not figure out how to respond there https://hypothes.is/a/5fVcAEaSEe2k4CPVTDZz7Q

      AtanasRadkov<br /> Oct 7<br /> on "Magnesium modulates Bacillus s…"<br /> (www.biorxiv.org)<br /> General comments:

      This study carefully delineates the role of magnesium in cell division versus cell elongation. The results are really important specifically for rod-shaped bacteria and also an important contribution to the broader field of understanding cell shape. Specifically, I love that they are distinguishing between labile and non-labile intracellular magnesium pools, as well as extracellular magnesium! These three pools are really challenging to separate but I commend them on engaging with this topic and using it to provide alternative explanations for their observations!

      A major contribution to prior findings on the effects of magnesium is the author’s ability to visualize the number of septa in the elongating cells in the absence of magnesium. This is novel information and I think the field will benefit from the microscopy data shown here.

      I completely agree with the authors that we need to be more careful when using rich media such as LB. It is particularly sad that we may be missing really interesting biology because of that! It’s worth moving away from such media or at least being more careful about batch to batch variability. Batch to batch variability is not as well appreciated in microbiology as it is for growing other cell types (for example, mammalian cells and insect cells).

      For me, the most exciting finding was that a large part of the cell length changes within the first 10min after adding magnesium. The authors do speculate in the discussion that this is likely happening because of biophysical or enzymatic effects, and I hope they explore this further in the future!

      I love how the paper reads like a novel! Congratulations on a very well-written paper!

      Kudos to the authors for providing many alternative explanations for their results. It demonstrates critical thinking and an open-mind to finding the truth.

      Comment<br /> Figure 2C → please include indication of statistical significance<br /> Figure 3C → please include indication of statistical significance<br /> Figure 6A → please include indication of statistical significance<br /> Figure 8B → please include indication of statistical significance<br /> Figure S1B → please include indication of statistical significance<br /> Figure S3B → please include indication of statistical significance

      Response<br /> Easy to add

      Comment<br /> For your overexpression experiments, do the overexpressed proteins have a tag? It would be helpful to have Western blot data showing that the particular proteins are actually being overexpressed. I think the phenotypes that you observe are very compelling, so I don’t doubt the conclusions. Western blot data would just provide some additional confirmation that you are actually achieving overexpression of UppS, MraY, and BcrC.

      Response<br /> The proteins are untagged. For the UppS and BcrC the cell shortening occurs with addition of inducer, , so strong indication expression is occurring. A western would provide information about degree of overexpression, but we don’t think is necessary to support conclusion drawn. Do you think there is an alternative possibility that needs to be excluded? We note that in another preprint (https://www.biorxiv.org/con... the authors delete the native uppS in their inducible Phy-uppS strain (Fig S4) and at 100 uM IPTG (10X less than what we used in experiment) the cells have wt growth on LB plates, so we at least know the Phy-uppS is functional and made (or they would die!). We are introducing the uppS deletion into our strain to see if we can identify a concentration of IPTG that doesn’t affect cell growth but still induces shortening.

      For MraY, the result is negative, so you are spot on – it is impossible to tell if due to lack of overexpression from data shown. We only know the strain is correctly made from sequencing. We will investigate if there is an antibody or functional fusion available. The reason we were not sure was worth doing is because the MraY reaction is reversible (15131133). This means that without a phenotype, there is no simple way to know the reaction can even be pushed forward even if the overexpression is confirmed (more negative data). We actually overexpressed some other proteins that act downstream (MraY, MurJ, AmJ) and they were also negative for shortening. Probably we should remove the negative data or reword to make the caveats of the negative result clear.

      Question<br /> Based on your data, there are definitely differences in gene expression when you compare cells grown in media with and without magnesium. Because the majority in cell length increase occurs in such a short time though (the first 10min), I was wondering if you think that some or most of it is not due to gene expression?

      Response<br /> The shortening is even faster than 10 min (not only statistically significant, but also obvious qualitatively if we mount immediately after adding Mg2+ ). We did not include the first timepoint because original purpose was to check everything was ready with microscope – did not expect shortening so fast! We can definitely add that data in. When we saw, we tried to capture the transition on pads, but going from culture to pad seems to stress the cells too much in the small window where the cool stuff happens. Since growth rate doesn’t appear to be a big factor in those initial divisions, we might be able to grow at lower temp and shift to pads for adjustment period before adding Mg2+. Did not play with it much due to lack of resources atm, but a flowcell setup would probably be best.<br /> In short, we think rapid divisions right after transition do not require transcription or translation. It really “smells” more like a biophysical thing.

      Question<br /> Do you have any hypotheses what is most likely to be affected by magnesium? Do you think if the membrane may be affected?

      Response<br /> We have a lot of hypotheses – all of which are speculative. There could be an extracytoplasmic enzyme involved in envelope synthesis is sensitive to Mg2+ availability, and that at lower concentrations, it’s activity is affected. There is some old literature with membrane preps that suggests PG synthesis requires higher Mg2+ than teichoic acid synthesis. If Und-P is limiting, higher Mg2+ may shift make the pool more available to make the septum. Tingfeng initially hypothesized there might be a receptor/signal mechanism but has not been able to identify one. Und-P seems to be important, but “availability” is not just pool, but how fast (and where!) the flipping across the membrane occurs. If Und-PP needs to be dephosphorylated to Und-P before being flipped back to cytoplasmic side, anything that effects the PPi equilibrium would be predicted to affect the reaction rate, with lower Pi (in periplasm or pseudoperiplasm in case of G+) favoring the dephosphorylation. Cell wall associated Mg2+ could shift equilibrium to be more favorable for a Und-PP phosphatase more closely associated with the divisome. I could go all day… In short, we don’t know enough!

      Question<br /> Why do you think less magnesium activates this program of less division and more elongation? Additionally why is abundant magnesium activating a program of increased cell division and less elongation? Do you think there is some evolutionary advantage, especially considering how important magnesium is for ATP production?

      Response<br /> In the window we looked at, the elongation rate is constant (not less or more) and only the division frequency changes. Some bacteria (like Caulobacter and to lesser extent E. coli) clearly elongate and divide simultaneously, so there is some competition for substrate (like Lipid II). Septators like Bacillus seem to delineate the two processes more, but we have found conditions where even Bacillus invaginates during division, so it’s not absolute. Like eukaryotic cells, bacterial undoubtedly have mechanisms not only commit to a round of DNA replication when there is some signal that resources are sufficient. Clearly with some bugs, this is not the case with cell division. The alternative possibility is that every cell cycle there is an opportunity to divide if some threshold of *something(s)* is reached. There is a hypothesis from Mtb literature that it may be GTP, but it’s not at all clear that is sufficient. In yeast, size at cell division is affected by perturbing 1-C pool.

      Question<br /> Related to this previous question, I also wonder if this magnesium-dependent phenotype would extend to other unicellular organisms, may be protists or algae? That would be a really exciting direction to explore!

      Response<br /> It’s a great question – lots to do! We didn’t even look at another Gram-positive, but we plan to. It’s trickier to limit Mg2+ in Gram-negatives (see 27471053 – we tried Bsub homolog for those wondering – it’s not responsible for phenotype we see).

      Question<br /> Regarding the zinc and manganese experiments, why do you think they lead to additional phenotypes compared to magnesium? Do you have any hypotheses?

      Response<br /> We have hypotheses, but if my (Jen’s) twitter engagement is any indication, way too speculative for public consumption at present. Need grant to acquire preliminary data to write grant.

      Question<br /> Regarding your results that Lipid I availability may be a major a problem for the cell division in the absence of magnesium, do you think that is due to effects magnesium has on the enzymes directly, or do you think magnesium affects the substrate availability/conformation by coordinating the phosphate groups? Or something else, may be membrane conformation?

      Response<br /> Several proteins involved in envelope synthesis (like UppS) are Mg2+ dependent enzymes. But at least for any intracellular players, levels of Mg2+ should be more than high enough to support enzyme activity even when levels are low (0.8 – 3.0 mM is Bsub range I recall off top of head). Could have impact extracytoplasmically by lowering pool sponged into the cell wall, but intuition (for what that is worth) is that it is not the coordination of an enzyme with a metal that is impacted rather the equilibrium with other ions like Pi and H+ and that this impacts net ATP synthesis. Lots to think about and do, and no simple answers. When Tingfeng started project idea was to find mechanism – didn’t realize we were asking “how does the cell work?” Turned out to be a bit much for a dissertation project :)

      -Jen Herman and Tingfeng Guo

    1. On 2022-10-12 15:57:20, user Víctor López del Amo wrote:

      Hello, very interesting work! I did not read anything about nickase versions of Cas12a before. Happy to find your work! We recently published a system using nickase versions of Cas9 to produce great HDR rates in vivo:<br /> https://www.cell.com/action...

      Victor.

    1. On 2022-10-12 11:44:01, user Lily Fogg wrote:

      Please note that upon peer review, this manuscript was divided into two related papers which were published back-to-back in the Journal of Experimental Biology:

      1) Development of dim-light vision in the nocturnal reef fish family Holocentridae. I: Retinal gene expression <br /> Link: https://journals.biologists...

      2) Development of dim-light vision in the nocturnal reef fish family Holocentridae. II: Retinal morphology<br /> Link:<br /> https://journals.biologists...