The productionofahistoricalnarrativecannotbestudied,therefore,throughamerechronologyofitssilences.
Nice. Able to quote that for real.
The productionofahistoricalnarrativecannotbestudied,therefore,throughamerechronologyofitssilences.
Nice. Able to quote that for real.
irst,factsarenevermeaningless:indeed,theybecomefactsonlybecausetheymatterinsomesense,howeverminimal.Second,factsarenotcreatedequal:theproductionoftracesisal-waysalsothecreationofsilences.
I do like the phrasing of this.
At some stage, for reasons thatare themselves historical, most often spurred by controversy, col-lectivities experience the need toimpose a test of credibilityoncertain events and narratives because it matters to them whetherthese events are true or false, whether these stories are fact orfiction,
Functions as a critical part of the argument and something that can be quoted.
Intheheated contextofthisdebate,advocatesonbothsidesarequestioningfactualstatements,theaccuracyofwhichmatteredtofewhalfacenturyago.“Facts,”bothtrivialorprominentinrelativeisolation,arequestionedorheraldedbyeachcamp.
I think a simple answer is that "it's complicated." History is inclusive, not exclusive. This means that many people can have a legitimate claim to the same events and it is important to try and reference that. A true historical account should make you feel as though things are complicated, it is not conclusive.
Aslongastheconver-sationinvolvesEuropeanstalkingaboutdeadIndians,thedebateismerelyacademic.
This is dismissive and not true, I do not agree with the argument being presented in this paper; Speak with any historian in this actual field and they will be quick to address the attitudes and dismissiveness of early European scholars and current-day society. It is a point of tragedy and shame that both the Indians experienced this and that there is not an accurate enough account of them. The work of history is generally a good-faith argument for the people that experienced a time, and on all sides. While there is going to always be narrative, it is not as cold as this makes and I do not think the discipline is well-understood.
Thatsuchrulesarenotthesameinalltimesandallplaceshasledmanyscholarstosuggestthatsomesocieties(non-Western,ofcourse)donot differentiatebetweenfictionandhistory.
Important to note as it does in part address the concerns of studying history. Most historians, while "accepting" a conventional narrative, acknowledge that it is likely contested and it is important to try and find anything that helps support the theories on the history suggested.
Withinthatviewpoint,historybecomesoneamongmanytypesofnarrativeswithnoparticularorceeexceptforitspretenseoftruth.?
Another point in support of the central theme, but I still cannot find agreement in this. History is a humanist discipline, it is not a science, and while it can be supported in science with archeological evidence, it will forever be our best guess at what happened and examined through our own biases.
Withinthat viewpoint, power is unproblematic, irrelevant to the con-struction of the narrative as such. At best, history is a story aboutpower, a story about those who won.
I disagree, I believe that the positivist position was not that power is irrelevant as if it were dismissed, I don't even think it was perceived. It is from that biased position that you could even begin to form a positivist view of historical records and at that point it is little more than historical narration of historical events, rather than an accurate depiction of history. There is still value in that but it is not definitive.
ThehistoryofFrancestartswithMichelet.”Themeaningoftheword“history”hasunam-biguouslyshiftedfromthesociohistorical processtoourknowl-edgeofthatprocess.Thesentenceaffirmsthatthefirstsignificantnarrativeabout FrancewastheonewrittenbyJulesMichelet.
This is not uncommon in English to have multiple meanings to the same word, I think it is an odd choice and peculiar to equate them.
Humanbeings participateinhistorybothasactorsooanarra-tors.Theinherentambivalenceofthewordhistoryinmanymodernlanguages,includingEnglish, suggeststhisdual—pation.
Both sentences here are quotable, and well-stated.
WhatIhopetodoistoshowhowmuchroomthereistolookattheproductionofhistoryoutsideofthedichotomiesthatthesepositions suggest andreproduce.
Main goal of writing truly established, it is important to have definitions in order to make an argument.
Notonlycanhistorymeaneitherthesociohistorical processorourknowledgeofthatprocess,buttheboundarybetweenthetwomeaningsisoften quitefluid
I wonder exactly why this distinction is made as if all history is history; is it not important to consider primary sources as history but be able to try and understand the timeframe to understand what could be or not be a true narrative? History in itself is a series of educated guesses at best, but I feel as though this may be too broad.
WiththebattlecryofSan Jacinto,Houston’smenreversedformorethanacenturythevictory SantaAnnathoughthehadgainedinSanAntonio.
Important when considering the main narrative. This is the thesis; words do have meaning and they can reduce the effectiveness of the people they are pitted against.
Now,three yearsafterSantaAnnafirstgainedpowerinindependentMexico,afewEnglish-speakingsquatters occu-piedtheplace,refusingtosurrendertohissuperiorforce.LuckilyforSantaAnna,theSquatters wereoutnumbered—atmost189potentialfighters—andthestructureitselfwasweak.Thecon-questwouldbe easy,orsothoughtSantaAnna.
Essential part of setting the stage for the thesis.
But surely the wounded Taliban soldier Regarding the Pain of Others 73 begging for his life whose fate was pictured prominently in The New York Times also had a wife, children, parents, sisters and brothers, some of whom may one day come across the three color photographs of their husband, fa- ther, son, brother being slaughtered—if they have not al- ready seen them.
Powerful ending statement. Able to quote, able to summarize her views well.
These sights carry a double message. They show a suffering that is outra- geous, unjust, and should be repaired. They confirm that this is the sort of thing which happens in that place. The ubiquity of those photographs, and those horrors, cannot help but nourish belief in the inevitability of tragedy in the benighted or backward—that is, poor—parts of the world.
Important in terms of understanding where the author is coming from. I think that it is interesting, though, that this is something that I think has adjusted. Perhaps having a phone makes people feel as though their homes are a mess when it just shows what has always been happening in their local communities.
It is easier to think of the enemy as just a savage who kills, then holds up the head of his prey for all to see.
Another great quote. Also feels a little like the author fell into the same trap as the Times reporter she criticized earlier.
What can be shown, what should not be shown—few issues arouse more pub- lic clamor.
Still relevant today. Great observation.
And television news, with its much larger audience and there- fore greater responsiveness to pressures from advertisers, operates under even stricter, for the most part self-policed constraints on what is “proper” to air.
Still relevant to the above comment I made, social media companies are tied to ad-revenue and being an advertising-safe space. Arguably, though, they are not as strict as policing their platforms for advertisers as they had been a decade earlier.
In the era of tele-controlled warfare against innumer- able enemies of American power, policies about what is to be seen and not seen by the public are still being worked out.
Extremely important in order to show where things have gone since then. Interestingly enough, I feel as though tech-companies are the new holders of what gets displayed to the public.
The terms for allowing the use of cameras at the front for nonmilitary purposes have become much stricter as war has become an activity prosecuted with increasingly exact optical devices for tracking the enemy.
In support of the above two paragraphs describing US military action in the Middle East.
War- making and picture-taking are congruent activities: “It is Regarding the Pain of Others 67 the same intelligence, whose weapons of annihilation can locate the enemy to the exact second and meter,” wrote Jiinger, “that labors to preserve the great historical event in fine detail.”*
Really powerfully-stated.
This was bound to have consequences: mainstream media are not in the business of making people feel queasy about the struggles for which they are being mo- bilized, much less of disseminating propaganda against waging wat.
I don't necessarily believe this to be true anymore, and I question the accuracy of the statement for the given time. I feel as though the above statements on the Civil War showcase a public unwillingness to want to experience death and the vast majority of those who partook in the conflict were drafted. Does that not demonstrate a public unwillingness, supported by the media?
British indignation upon hearing of this latest Boer out- rage was keen, if stiffly expressed: to have made public such pictures, declared Amateur Photographer, “serves no useful purpose and appeals to the morbid side of human nature solely.”
Quote of a quote... quote-ception. Will be helpful if responding to this in the future as there is a lot to be unpacked here.
Taken by an unknown Boer photographer ten days after the British defeat, which had cost the lives of thirteen hundred of their soldiers, it gives an intrusive view down a long shallow trench packed with unburied bodies. What is particularly aggressive about the image is the absence of a landscape.
Important example of being on the other side of the intent of the camera.
Yet the Times reporter cannot resist the melodrama that mere words supply (the “dripping bodies” ready for “the gaping trenches”), while reprehending the intolerable realism of the image.
Is this truly melodrama exclusively or a symptom of a popularized style of writing that was incredibly verbose? I feel as though they are sympathetic not only to the women as the author states but beyond that, and for the life that was taken. There is an understandable loss that the image makes you feel; imagine being here.
bodies, are of those who seem most foreign, therefore least likely to be known. With subjects closer to home, the photographer is expected to be more discreet.
I wonder if this is still exclusively relevant in today's society. I can't help but feel as though the democratization of photography and the ability to propel anything into the public sphere on social media makes me question if this still stands.
And the viewer is in the same position as the lackey behind the camera; the experience is sickening.
Supporting the opening paragraph, but first time that the argument is directly stated.
T o catch a death actually happening and embalm it for all time is something only cameras can do, and pictures taken by photographers out in the field of the moment of (or just before) death are among the most celebrated and often reproduced of war photographs.
I think this is really well-stated and provocative.
By 1977, his efforts bore fruit when the Haudenosaunee andother Indigenous delegates returned to Geneva to address theUnited Nations, asserting their status as sovereign nations.Their work helped establish the UN Permanent Forum onIndigenous Issues (UNPFII) and contributed to the eventualadoption of UNDRIP in 2007.
I cannot understand why the author argues how they argue. They spend the last page describing how an International Law Council describes how the basis of International Law is rooted in the laws of Christian Discovery but then applauds what it has decided to hate when it rules in its favor. I really just don't understand. I am deeply sympathetic to indigenous causes and their rights to places but I can't help but feel as though the author is using them to crusade against Christianity (I am also non-religious and do not necessarily view religious institutions as a guideline for how to live)
Marshall's decision in Johnson v. M’Intosh (1823) codified theDoctrine of Christian Discovery into U.S. law. His rulingbecame the foundation of federal Indian law, establishing thatonly European‐descended governments could hold title over theland. Marshall ruled that Indigenous peoples held only a “rightof occupancy” to their lands, while ultimate title vested in thediscovering European nation and, subsequently, the U.S. gov-ernment.
Important for the context of this article, but I still feel as though there is so much context left out that I am puzzled as to why the author decided to start at exactly here as if the US and Colonial Britain did not shape this view already prior to this. Was Marshall really the first one that was an American Expansionist? Is this truly a Christian reason or is there more motivating questions of pure land power to consider? Is the appeal to Christian values even truly important to the one making those appeals or are they just the easiest?
Nation filed a land rights case in 2005, U.S. federalcourts dismissed it in 2010, ruling that addressing these his-toric wrongs would be “too disruptive” to the present‐dayproperty system. This decision exemplified the persistentapplication of the Doctrine of Christian Discovery, which haslong justified the denial of Indigenous land rights under U.S.law (Onondaga Nation 2005).
I still question why this is being brought up. I disagree with the loose connections holding the legal argument to the Christian argument. I still feel as though this might be better served as a class argument, or an owner-vs-people argument.
ndigenous peoples have been systematically excludedfrom the very freedoms they helped shape, and their influenceremains largely unrecognized in mainstream historical narra-tives
Good quote.
ackson's actions signaled that judicial de-cisions alone could not protect Indigenous nations fromcolonial‐settler encroachment.
Why make this argument here? This has been happening for all of Colonial America's history (not saying that it is good.) Our local tribes successfully sued the Colony of Connecticut in London for their lands and still they were stripped of their rights and land despite judicial overview agreeing with them. At the same time, I feel as though this counteracts the thesis and weakens the piece.
Whileaddressed to the Indigenous inhabitants of Turtle Island/AbayaYala its intended audience and function as was granting pre-emptory absolution for the sins (atrocities) about to becommitted by the colonizers
Arguably this is the central pillar of all of Christian thought, though. I feel as though some religious context is needed.
hese papal bulls provided divine sanction for conquest and ajustification for converting human beings into souls and theninto human capital for development. The souls of theoppressed were rendered as less than, and even the convertedwere perpetually seen as less than.
Well-said.
Its theological and legal un-derpinnings were already present, though not yet fully codified.Identifying the DoCD's origins is challenging—some scholarstrace it back to Constantine's Christian empire, as Cornel Westsuggests, while others locate its roots in the broader expansionof Christendom, as outlined in Basic Call to Consciousness(West 2008; Barreiro et al. 2005).
Yay! They mentioned what I had questioned!
These demarcationlines reflect the Treaty of Tordesillas (2018), which carved up theworld between Portugal and the Crown of Castile and Aragon(Spain), thus marking the domains for the eurochristian imag-ined right of possession and domination
I agree with this part, though; Good point and important to the overall structure of the paper.
Renaming places in European tongues severed these connec-tions, imposing a eurochristian worldview and Christian terri-torial claims. Chalchiuhtlicueyecatl, the Gulf of Mexico, and theGulf of America may all share a particular body of water as theirreferent, but their ontologies are vastly different (Fig-ueroa 2014).
I agree that renaming places is generally speaking meant to go and impose a specific world-view. I agree with this on especially the local level. However, I would argue that in North America there are still considerable places that have retained their indigenous roots; Ohio, Massachusetts, Pawcatuck, Mississippi, to name a few.
In Europe, most latin-based languages call Germany some derivative of one of their more powerful ancient tribes despite the Germans themselves calling themselves "Deutsch." I feel as though this is also an element of the human condition and I think I disagree thoroughly with this argument that the paper is trying to make as it does not accurately represent the entire picture.
These texts created an enduring frame-work of domination, intertwining theology and law to sanctifyconquest, enslavement and extraction (Newcomb 2008;Wolfchild 2015).
I do not understand exactly why the author had decided to argue that those texts described above are the intertwining of religion and law when that had been predominant in all human governments, but even in Christian societies the second that Rome became Christian. Even more so, were the Crusades not exactly that- religious justification directed by both local and theological law in order to conquest lands?
European Monarchs, havingdepleted their coffers during the Crusades, shifted their colonialfocus to the Canary Islands (ca. 1436), where they testedconquest strategies: slaughtering or forcibly converting Indige-nous peoples, breaking promises of protection, and usingChristianization as a pretext for enslavement (Miller 2019;Miller et al. 2010).
Pre-text to described era of Christian Discovery. Important in order to understand the view of the following events.
Columbus' arrivalis often framed as the dawn of exploration, but in reality, itmarked the beginning of genocide, justified in the name of God.
In support of the thesis, showing directly the outline of the coming few pages. Also well-phrased.
he Doctrine of Discovery, or more accurately, the Doctrineof Christian Discovery (DoCD), has long served as a ligamentconnecting Christianity and colonization, not just in theAmericas but across Africa, Oceania, and beyond. Rooted in a15th‐century theological and legal framework, it justifiedenslavement, exploitation, and extraction (Newcomb 2008;Wolfchild 2015).
Central thesis of coming article.
Our gift was time and attention and care and red-stained fingers.Heart berries, indeed.
Tying in the central theme heavily here; Reciprocal gift giving between the land, her childhood, and her family. The appreciation for natural life and beauty runs deep and ties into family history and creation belief.
She’d kindly explain how to cook unfamiliar items and pull out thesweetest pineapple she’d been saving under the table. Once she evenhad strawberries.
Is the exchange of information not a form of gift? Is it solely in the material realm that gifts can be given?
The pair of wool socks that I buy at the store,red and gray striped, are warm and cozy. I might feel grateful for thesheep that made the wool and the worker who ran the knitting ma-chine. I hope so. But I have no inherent obligation to those socks as acommodity, as private property. There is no bond beyond the politelyexchanged “thank yous” with the clerk. I have paid for them and ourreciprocity ended the minute I handed her the money. The exchangeends once parity has been established, an equal exchange.
The next step to the theme of this paper; That consumerism, or just plain old capital consumption and exchange is inferior to the natural exchange that can occur between people. This feels as though the transaction is a cold middleman between two distant people.
From the viewpoint of a private property economy, the “gift” isdeemed to be “free” because we obtain it free of charge, at no cost. Butin the gift economy, gifts are not free. The essence of the gift is that itcreates a set of relationships. The currency of a gift economy is, at itsroot, reciprocity. In Western thinking, private land is understood to bea “bundle of rights,” whereas in a gift economy property has a “bundleof responsibilities” attached.
Central critique of Western circulation of gifts and exchange.
Her final gifts, our most revered plants, grew from her body.The strawberry arose from her heart. In Potawatomi, the strawberry isode min, the heart berry. We recognize them as the leaders of the ber-ries, the first to bear fruit.
This is the large-picture aspect of the central theme of the story. A warm gift from a tragic story. Ties in with family story of poverty if decided to focus solely on that.
He expects sellers to graciously give him what heneeds, but sometimes they don’t. The guy at the booth thinks he’s beingshaken down by an elder. “Hey, you can’t get something for nothin’,”he says. But that is exactly the point. A gift is something for nothing,except that certain obligations are attached
Is this not hypocritical in nature? I would argue that expecting a gift makes it no longer a gift as it is an obligation, an expected service. Especially when the person who is expecting the gift is seeking out the gift itself. I understand that there is a traditional element, but I can't help but feel as though approaching people with the expectation of being received all of the time is somewhat disruptive of the gift cycle.
I do not think he should have to buy it and I agree it should be willingly given, but I still feel as though it is more intentional to be open to the idea of rejection in order to have the gifts given being greater for it.
. A gift comes to you through no action of yourown, free, having moved toward you without your beckoning.
A very warm and comforting perspective on the feeling of receiving a gift presented eloquently and with purpose.
I dreamed not long ago of that market with all its vivid textures.
This whole subsection is puzzling to me. I feel like entering the imaginary realm here to try and convince the reader of an idealized view is reductive and fails to recognize the gift of friendship and knowledge described in the previous paragraph. It also has an element that Edita was not kind enough or good enough.
Perhaps it is my own inherent Western bias and this is too dismissive. I am willing to be open to debate and discussion.
Hyde reminds us that in agift economy, one’s freely given gifts cannot be made into someone else’scapital.
Simple statement regarding central theming.
What I mean of course is that our human relationship with straw-berries is transformed by our choice of perspective. It is human percep-tion that makes the world a gift.
Excellent summary and pleasent phrasing.
you don’t feel the warm feathers cool in your hand and know that a lifehas been given for yours, when there is no gratitude in return—thatfood may not satisfy. It may leave the spirit hungry while the belly isfull. Something is broken when the food comes on a Styrofoam traywrapped in slippery plastic, a carcass of a being whose only chance atlife was a cramped cage. That is not a gift of life; it is a theft.
Well-put and thought-provoking ideas on the exchange of the natural world and people, with the real idea that people are unable to see the value in the exchange when they themselves are removed from it.