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  1. May 2022
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      Contrasting dichotomy...interesting that they are described as both

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      It's interesting they had this reaction...I wonder why

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      Interesting perspective

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      I didn't know all the details of this history as well...in school we usually only made it up to WWII in studies

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    1. receiving vastly more credit for the performance than theindividual ensemble member.

      Which is wrong. Not that they shouldn't receive any credit, but not enough credit is given to musicians I feel like by enough conductors

    2. But a third contributing causeis the value of the concept of conducting as a demonstration of power.

      Which isn't necessarily good...in fact I would argue is often problematic

    3. eachers, in turn, arelikely to favor their own students over those of other faculty mem-bers by helping them get engagements and jobs, or when grading byjuries takes place.

      True

    4. aving beengood enough, or promising enough, to be accepted by a particularteacher may in itself provide evidence of your qualifications.

      People still have this association I think

    5. uch differences in degree and type of esteem can be ascribed torepertory,

      I've heard that at DePaul there was a lot less care and respect for the Wind groups rather than orchestras for a long long time...even until now in many respects

    6. nd so, to the general public and in the world ofpopular music—in contrast to its conception in the professional worldof classical musicians—singing is musical activity of the highest cal-iber and prestige.

      Lots of people who don't study music have music preferences based on singers (even musicians do too). But they also will listen for other reasons too (the song's "beat" or "vibe")

    7. musicians and singers.”

      I hate when people say this...so not true. I try to actively call vocalists musicians and treat singers like I treat instrumentalists in groups I lead

    8. nthebeliefsystemofinstrumentalists(well,certaininstrumen-talists),singersmayhave beautifulnatural voicesbutneednotbehighlyintelligent;althoughthevoiceneedstobedeveloped,singersneednot learnmanualskills.Inmyexperience,itistruethatsingersoften (andwithsignificantexceptions)doworsethaninstrumental-istsinacademicsubjects,whetherfromthetendencytoselectsing-ersforthequalityofvoice,withoutconsiderationofothermusicaloracademictalents,orfromanonintellectual self-imagethatsingersacquireduringtheircourseofstudy

      This is a sad stereotype that I hope changes. I remember this kind of division in college and even falling into this thinking until I got to know singing colleagues better, learn more about their craft and experiences and challenges, sing alongside them in choirs, and conduct the. I got a lot more respect for them at their "instruments" and enjoy learning more about all things related to other people's instruments that I don't know about. It's true that there were some vocalists who had incredible voices naturally and who were terrible at aural skills and sight reading...but so were some instrumenalists

    9. typical jazz ensemble ismale; a big band of men may have a woman singer.

      I wonder how much this has changed in the 21st century...are there a lot more female jazz musicians now?

    10. Performers thus see musicologists as a kind of police, imposingmusic history requirements on their students, making them take en-trance examinations, and otherwise forcing them to jump throughhoops of (they think) an essentially irrelevant sort in defense of anobsolete and ephemeral canon.

      I have also seen people with this perspective, although I don't believe it is entirely valid. I learned a lot of helpful things from my theory, aural skills, and history classes, although during my undergrad I was focusing on becoming a conductor so everything seemed relevant to me...but I think most are helpful for most music students, though I wish more choice was offered, like people taking more studies in other music traditions/genres

    11. It is obvious thaperformers regard themselves as the central portion of the school anthat the school’s administration shares this view.

      I have seen this perspective by students

    12. ‘To musicians outside the academy, all members of a music faculty mayin a sense be people who cannot really do, otherwise they wouldn’tteach.

      That is often true, but not always

    13. because the high-est reward in musical coin is to be permitted to conduct the music-making of others

      It is a reward, and it should be earned and continued to be earned...too often those who conduct ensembles do not have the respect of their ensembles. It resembles monarchs who govern people who did not choose their leader or want them in power but have no power to get rid of them...this is especially true in schools

    14. hatthey “are” the institution to a greater extent than the teachers or thestudent body.

      I find this to be a problematic viewpoint...not that it's not true but I think if all three classes are viewed as equal parts of the institution, things fair better for all three classes

    15. stiidetits “arid “teachers combine topressure administrators for special favors—a university van to go toan out-of-town concert, new instruments, higher pay for teachers andassistants, more scholarship money for students.

      Sometimes...to get rid of a poorly qualified teacher/administrator

    16. o classes and lessons, and for practice and rehearsal, studentsusually wear distinctive but not uniform outfits emphasizing infor-mality.

      When I was in my undergrad, I think junior or senior year, I started dressing professionally most of the time at school, I think at the time I wanted to feel more professional and "older" but I see now it was also a subconscious attempt to be taken more seriously and treated more like a teacher than a student. I didn't like being felt like the lower class and was trying to move up the ranks

    17. Once in school, many studentsfeel that they are not after all being treated like valued customers bylabor or management; in fact, however, attention is given to theirsensitivities.

      True!!!!

    18. It seems that ideal musicians comefrom families of musicians and begin study early.

      These are reasons why I didn't think I could study music in college... I didn't think I fit the mold and was "behind" and so I couldn't pursue it even though I loved it

    19. Special respect is given to individuals who move along thesequence rapidly,

      This aspect of classical music culture has made it very difficult for me as I've struggled with insecurities or feelings of being "behind." It's somewhat reassuring to know that this isn't just a feeling I made up with no reason, but that it comes from this cultural value of "fast progression", rather than what I've been encouraged by my mentors to be on my "own path at my own pace" and not compare myself to others

    20. student to teacher to administrator

      This is only for people who want to stay in academia, which many (most?) students in music school do not. Many will teach as part of their livelihood but many strive to be professional performers...I find often people end up getting doctorates so they have the "stability" of a collegiate teaching job...maybe more people end up going that rout because of that

    21. separation between administrator andteacher is greater in the field-of music, and the association of teacherand student closer than that found in higher education at large.

      I have found this to be the case in my experiences...often there is a DIS-connect between administration and teachers and much closer ties between teachers and students

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    1. Just as women of an earlier generation likePeggy Seeger, Mary Malloy, and Ellen Cohnmade it acceptable for women to sing seachanteys, the women on Rogue’s Gallery pro-vide the freshest new sounds in sea music.

      I wondered how that process happened

    2. his presence on the albumis curious. 1

      It seems like a lot of the initial tracks on this compilation aren't the best ones of the compilation. I started listening tot this one before getting to this section and I liked it better when I could skip around to some of the better tracks as the author mentioned them

    1. new cultural sensibility:

      It seems like "progress" has been made...but what more is there to address and continue to work on? What problematic things still exist within this discourse

    2. Peruvian music was related to ‘how American slaves developedtap dancing’ (#297). Music from Mali was ‘strangely familiar’ with ‘fingerpicking pat-terns that sometimes resemble Celtic rock’

      I feel like there has to be a way to both recognize similarities AND differences in different styles, not being reductionist on either side of those approaches

    3. Reviewers in this phase remained resistant to the new cultural exchange. Fusion, dynamicmusic development, and hybridity were only reluctantly accepted as long as the artistsdidn’t lose sight of their roots and traditions – which were defined by the critics

      This seems problematic

    4. He upheld astatic conception of a pre-colonial pure culture, even if that required some major histori-cal assumptions: Ethnic music ‘is one of the last remnants of a way of life that predatesthe Industrial Revolution’

      Big assumption....probably not true at all

  4. Apr 2022
    1. Difference was established along dichotomiessuch as West/Third World, present/past, rational/irrational, serious/emotional, civiliza-tion/nature and commercialized/authenti

      Also narrow perspective

    2. Feld criticized the genre for ‘shaping a kind of consumer-friendlymulticulturalism, one that follows the market logic of expansion and consolidation

      I could go along with this criticism

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    1. "I see the power of imperial conquest and colonialhegemony residing as much in the forms, discourses, and commodities it cre-ated to colonize other people's minds as in the violence with which it subjectedtheir bodies

      What a powerful way to state this...

    2. For example, a member of the Bhundu Boys told me that dur-ing the late 1980s they had wanted to experiment with county and western, buttheir British fans rejected them when they tried this. 19

      That's sad...why???

    3. The "exotic" products inserted into cosmopolitanloops usually do not come from outside the formation but rather are typicallyproduced by cosmopolitans themselves, albeit in marginalized sites in the so-called "Third World", and by marginalized groups in the cosmopolitan powercentres.

      That's too bad

    4. For this market, authen-ticity is defined by being external (exotic) to the cosmopolitan, but the crucialdifferences must also be largely couched within familiar cosmopolitan ethics,aesthetics and style

      This seems like a double standard

    5. Zimbabweanartists who perform soul music, rap, country or gospel, and who do not sounddistinctively African enough, will not easily find a place in cosmopolitan worldmusic markets.

      This is surprising

    6. "I felt that reggae was the whiteliberal market. I always hoped that it would sell to black America, but it neverdid because the music was too ethnic-ish ... The only people who really relatedto it were white liberal, college oriented-type people ..."

      What an interesting and ironic phenomenon

    7. ifferencesof wealth among black Zimbabweans was never very pronounced; educationlevels, occupation, and social and cultural style were the primary determinersof class and status.

      That's interesting, different than other cultures

    8. Early in my fieldwork I was struck by the fact thatmy Shona colleagues at the University of Zimbabwe seemed to have as muchor more in common with me than they did with rural Shona peasants. I was alsostruck by the fact that my middle-class neighbours in Mabelreign suburb knewless about rural Shona music and indigenous ceremony than I did and some-times more about jazz and US country music than I did.

      Both surprises to me too

    9. Africanist cultural and ethno-musicological analysis along with nationalist discourse itself, has too often usedoverly simple black-white, African-European, traditional-modern, and nowlocal-global, dichotomies to think about cultural positions, artistic aestheticsand issues of authenticit

      I've fallen into this over-simplistic thinking

    10. It is this feature that makes cosmo-politanism closest to what is typically referred to as "global culture"

      Good to clarify that these are not exactly the same thing but very related

    11. The reason for this difficulty is that cosmopolitan discourse itselfstresses individuality, placelessness, universalism and a pan-historicism thatresults in ahistoricity.

      That's true it does stress this

    12. cultural groups, cosmopolitan formations

      I've never thought of cosmopolitan formations as a cultural group but it helps to make sense of it as it's own entity and not just the "modern global" world

    13. Diasporas are a second type of trans-state cultural formation. Unlike immigrantcommunities, diasporas are not bilateral but, rather, involve multiple sites ina number of states, both synchronically and diachronically

      I don't think I've ever had a great understanding of what a diaspora is and how it differs from immigrant groups

    14. One clear effect of nationalist movements in the colonizedregions of the world was to open new minds to "modern" thinking and desires,and thus new markets for industrial commodities, much as European colonistshad done previously.

      This makes sense though I hadn't thought about it this way before

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    1. "out of tune," which creates beating amongall the overtones. Practitioners perceive this acoustic phenomen6n as tGinstrument's timbric richness; some of the smaller 7a ranas may have six,five, or four courses.

      Its cool how the "beating" of clashing overtones is considered a pleasant sound in certain music cultures

    2. kaleidoscope of contemporary practices, causing tensionsbetween conservatives wishing to keep son jarocho with a fixed repertoryand performance practice and those wanting to inject musical elementsfrom other traditions, making it more meaningful to everyday realitiesand lifestyles.

      Its interesting how these tensions between the traditional and contemporary exist in so many musical cultures

    3. Mexican entertainment lndus-try has been instrumental in the dissemination of Mexican music andculture throughout Latin America, sometimes to the detriment of localmusic scenes and traditions.

      I didn't know this

    4. Because Mexican culture is largely unknown or misrepresentedin everyday U.S. life, most Americans are unaware of the power ofMexico's entertainment industry.

      True...I am unaware

    5. This is one of the powers of music; it has the ability to be'adopted,adapted, transformed, and made meaningful in varioui individuai andcollective spaces, histories, and circumstances.

      Love this statement...well put

    6. aza de bronce (bronze race; a combination of all the world'sraces and cultures mixing in the continent) had the spiritual mission ofestablishing a true universal and cosmopolitan civilization.

      Interesting concept

    7. an imaginary one, in whichbeing indigenous is a source of pride in the splendor of pre-Colum-bian civilizations, and the real one that identifies contemporary indig-enous people and their culture as "backward," marginal, and a sourceof embarrassment.

      This is sad...but also not surprising, as the two-faced nature of politics and political agendas is so common

    8. smaller groups of Africans, Afro-Caribbeans, and AfricanAmericans kept migrating to Mexico until the end of the 19th andsometimes through the 20th centur

      I didn't know this

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    1. Neither text nor music had a pre-determined form, and the piece was through-composed.

      So this means it was improvised elements but still considered "through composed"?

    2. dawr consisted of two prin-cipal sections, the madhhab

      It's interesting to learn about this genre of music that I've never heard about. The ingredients of it don't seem completely foreign

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    1. Finally, this "voice of Egypt" was female. Indeed, the careers of UmmKulthum and her female contemporaries fly in the face of popular concep-tions of Arab women as submissive, sheltered, silent, and veiled.

      That definitely surprised me

    2. The city was the spacing of intervals or enclosures forming a continu-ous materiality. Its order was a question of maintaining, within suchenclosures, the proper relationships between directions, forces andmovements, not its ability to reveal in material form the determiningpresence of a non-material plan or meaning. It was an order withoutframeworks.

      I don't understand what he is saying

    3. are elements of "an inclusivesocial and cultural formation which indeed to be effective has to extend toand include, indeed to form and be formed from, this whole area of livedexperience."

      Again...I think I understand...all this abstract philosophical talk is a bit harder to digest sometimes

    4. characteristic elements of impulse, restraint, and tone; specifically af-fective elements of consciousness and relationships: not feeling againstthought, but thought as felt and feeling as thought: practical conscious-ness of a present kind, in a living and interrelating continuity. We arethen defining these elements as a "structure": as a set, with specificinternal relations, at once interlocking and in tension. Yet we are alsodefining a social experience which is still in process, often indeed notyet recognized as social but taken to be private, idiosyncratic, andeven isolating, but which in analysis (though rarely otherwise) has itsemergent, connecting, and dominant characteristics, indeed its specifichierarchies

      Ok...this part kind of lost me

    5. Linking structural musicalanalysis to analysis of discourse historically opens windows on the dynam-ics of performance. It allows us to see performance and reception as partsof an ongoing musical process embedded in social practice

      It's interesting that just analyzing the musical or rhythmic modes and musical structure isn't enough to explain the huge response to Umm Kulthum's songs, that even very sophisticated musicians weren't as interested in that.

    6. Musical expressions are rela-tively open codes. "Specific musical elements," Middleton writes, "are usu-ally less firmly embedded in particular syntactic and semantic structuresthan are, for example, words, and ... those conventions of meaning andsyntax which do exist are more general, less precise, leaving greater free-dom to make specific orientation in specific contexts." His notions of "ar-ticulation," the "docking" of a performance at a particular "place," allowus to see how the same performances carried different meanings at differenttimes.

      I'm not completely following what the author means by "musical expressions"

    7. he general themes of the discourse about song in Egypt are re-markably consistent; patterns of thought, criticism, and association emergeas fragments of discourse that are widely shared, attached to similar musicsand believed to be true

      That's interesting...I wonder if the same could be said about any western music cultures or sub-cultures

    8. Listeners' interpretations of similarity and difference, of transformationsand contrasts, define styles

      I never thought about this before, that listener's help define styles

    9. We think we are speaking in pure prose and weare already speaking in tropes; one person employs the tropes differ-ently than another, takes them farther in a related sense, and thus thedebate becomes interminable and the riddle insoluble

      Man...it's been a while since I engaged with this literary and philosophical lingo...I think I get what he's saying, about people speaking more metaphorically or in generalization rather than simply on facts and figures

    10. My questions about a single person quickly led to larger questions aboutEgyptian and Arab culture and society

      I like all these questions he's asking. It helps me better know what kinds of questions I should ask when faced with unfamiliar music and music cultures

    11. the voiceand face of Egypt."2 She remains today an inescapable figure in Arabmusical life

      What would a western music equivalent of this kind of figure be? Maybe from the 20th century pop culture? Maybe no one was quite as big as Kulthūm was in the Arab speaking world

    1. composed by Junior Crehan. He has composed some forty tunes, many of which have entered the traditional repertoire

      I didn't think about how some of this is newer than others and may even be "contemporary" I think I assumed they were all ancient musics passed down for generations

    2. Some were born within a mile of the pub, and have danced to the music of Junior Crehan all their lives

      Wow...that's so cool. True natives and experts of this community

    3. eighty-nine-year-old fiddler who has led these Sunday night sessions for more than fifty years.

      Yes! I hope i'm doing music when I'm that old and still leading others in doing it too

    4. wary of draw- ing in people who would not respect the sensitive cultural ecology of this local tradition.

      It's interesting to think that some events not EVERYONE is welcome to, or at least not best suited to participate in.

    5. Gleesons provides a different kind of experience: the life of the music in a community where the music has been getting along “on its own,” patronized by local people and performed by local mu- sicians, for generations.

      Authentic music experiences....I love the notion that music gets along "on its own". I want to experience more musics in their natural habitat as it were

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      I always enjoy hearing this kind of music and I'd love to learn how to dance along to it. I hope I can get more exposure to folk dancing in the future. I'd love to learn the difference of each of these kinds of dances

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      It's interesting how Irish people weren't offended at these characters but saw them as humorous and fictional. I wonder if this kind of hyperbolic caricature are more easily stomach-able by some cultures more than others. Or if it's more based on the time period or other context elements. I feel like if we did this today more people would get offended, especially if it was caricatures of certain cultures, nationalities, or ethnicities

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      This sounds like a fun act to see. But also....sounds like a lot...

  9. Mar 2022
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    1. I have never felt a t ease in that environment . Lovin g t o hea r and t oplay the works but feelin g uncomfortable during th e events at which theyare presented has produced a deep ambivalence that has not lessene d ove rthe years

      I can kind of relate... I really love performing concerts, but don't especially enjoy attending them, at least not as often as I used to, and not since I started being more invested in music myself. I get bored... I want to have a more active role in participating...unless I have a score to read along with or new things to learn about the concert pieces, I get bored after a while. I'm seldom very affected emotionally at all except with rare performances and usually only of pieces I already have a connection to and usually only parts of them

    2. more personal reasonfor taking the symphony concert as example

      Wow...this author really seems bitter and resentful...I'm sure we all have struggles with this sometimes

    3. They are to b e found not onl y be-tween thos e organize d sound s whic h ar e conventionall y though t o f a sbeing th e stuf f o f musica l meaning but als o between th e peopl e who ar etaking part, i n whatever capacity, i n the performance; and they model, o rstand as metaphor for, ideal relationships as the participants in the perfor -mance imagine them to be : relationships between person an d person, be -tween individual and society, between humanity and the natural world andeven perhaps th e supernatural world . These are importan t matters , perhap sthe most importan t i n human life , an d how we learn about them throughmusicking is wha t this book is about

      I don't think I totally understand what he is saying here...I kind of got lost in this long sentence and had to reread it several times...

    4. It must explain also how some musical culture s become dominant,sometimes across th e whole world, while others remain confined t o the so-cial group within which they originated.

      That's what I've often been curious and frustrated about, especially when trying to convince others that this fact doesn't make certain music inherently superior

    5. T o music is t o take part, in any capacity,in a musical performance, whether by performing, by listening, by rehearsingor practicing, by providing material for performance (what is called compos-ing), o r b y dancing

      I like this definition! I say lets make this verb a thing

    6. tha t to take par t in a musi c act i s o fcentral importance to ou r ver y humanness, as important a s taking par t inthe ac t of speech ,

      I agree! I had a choir director mentor who would preach this and use it to make sure the music his groups did engaged others directly and connected to social purpose and encouraged others to see themselves as music maskers

    7. Bach’ s Saint Matthew Passion., which was intended a s part o f th eGood Frida y obsequies o f th e Luthera n Church ,

      I wish more church's could perform this work for Good Friday services or during Holy Week...sacred work performed for worship services has so much more potential for deeper meaning for the listeners. I've experienced this firsthand

    8. Wha t Mozart , th e suprem e practical musician, woul dhave had to say abou t that one can only imagine

      I'm sure Mozart would have said a lot of choice words to Brahms...#$%@

    9. The first is tha t musical performance play s nopart in the creative process , being only the medium through which the iso-lated, self-contained work has to pass i n order to reach its goal, the listener.

      BOOOOOOOO!!!!

    10. tis rare indeed to find the act of musical performanc e though t of as possess-ing, much less creating, meanings in its own right.

      This sure is a discouraging way of thinking about music, especially as a performer. The times I've enjoyed performing most is when I feel like I am a part of a creative process in the moment, creating something special in the moment for all those present in that moment, audience an performers

    11. perfectly norma lhuman music , a n ethni c musi c i f yo u like , lik e an y othe r and , lik e an yother, susceptible to social as wel l as purel y musical comment

      I like this way of describing Western music

    12. as can be seen from th e fac t tha t a classical training i s thought to b e a fitpreparation for any other kind of musica l performance

      So not true...I often am frustrated working with "classically trained" musicians in my church jobs who struggle working off of lead sheets, chord charts, improvising, understanding "groove" and the performance practices of more contemporary and popular musical styles.

    13. it is claimed tobe a n intellectua l an d spiritua l achievemen t tha t i s unique i n th e world’ smusical cultures

      I have definitely been engaged in conversations with people who would say these kinds of things...very frustrating to always know how to respond

    14. abstraction s which we call love, hate, goodand evil as havin g an existence apar t from th e acts of loving, hating, o r per-forming good and evil deeds an d even to thin k o f the m a s being i n som eway more rea l than th e act s themselves, a kind o f universa l or idea l lyin gbehind an d suffusin g th e actions . Thi s is the tra p of reification , an d it hasbeen a besetting faul t of Western thinking ever since Plato, wh o was one ofits earliest perpetrators.

      Hmmm I'm not sure if I entirely agree with this statement, of the existence of love, hate, good and evil being dependent upon actions, that the ideals cannot exist on their own...do others have thoughts about this?

    15. There is no such thing as music .Music is no t a thin g at all bu t an activity, something tha t people do. Theapparent thing "music" is a figment, an abstraction of the action, whose re-ality vanishes as soon a s we examine it at all closely.

      This idea was striking to me. I haven't thought of music in this way before. I think it makes sense...music not being a thing itself but an abstraction of action. Anyone disagree or have another way of conceptualizing music?