♖ HyperPost OrigoWeb folder
getting ready to be ready to launch the IndyWeb
The Permanent, Evergreen, Co-evolving
commons based,Peer produced Autonomous, Person-first Virtual Cloud Services
Control yOur Information flows, Control yOur Destiny
of Autonomous
Inter- - Planetary - Personal - Plays
over the Web
integration.with-hypothes.is
This is so nice
allowing people to go around and take any point of view and that that ability to see grounded in data a lot of different ways that we could live is going to be the lighthouse that guides us
lighthouse
allowing to emerge you know i love computers emerge within the computer but more importantly in our own minds allowing to emerge a map of this new territory
a map of this new territory
then finding a way forward for us as a civilization
finding way forward civilization
grounding that in data that is known to be true
known to be true
seeing what's out there
what
can all be unique but we can still make wise choices together
unique wise choices together
says attribution i manage that as you copy things back and forth i trace it back that's kind of how it makes it all work
go find the original sources
find original
equal in responsibility
.
here i am actually participating as an equal
as an equal
wiggle that around
it's now gold and i read now and i click a link on my page it finds theirs so i've inserted my page in the middle of their site
inserted my page in the middle of their site
i switch point of views here it looks the same but that's because i haven't gotten to my part yet
the hypothesis here is that with my input we can make it even better
if i start clicking through these pages i can look this is actually a document from ecotrust here in portland
click on a link the new page comes up and i don't lose the context of the other
new page comes up
made the pages narrow so it's easy to put pages side by side
the bluish one is the original and the gold one is a new idea placed in the midst of other pages
causes all these to appear as a whole
appear as a whole
the point of view is what's on my side of the wall or your side of the wall
you like it what i do you take it back we pass stuff around
take it back pass around
if i like something on your wall i take it and call it my own
call it my own
making each wall be part of a whole making a bunch of things into a part a whole without destroying their identity
delights me and i think there'll be a day where it delights all o
ended up stumbling across something that turned out to be big
these are all points of view these are perspectives
ViewPoints
changing the meaning of a link again
x
so that we can find this path forward now i set out to solve this problem
find the path forward
set out to solve THIS problem
create something that feels like wiki but that supports a chorus of voices you know not not necessarily in unison but in harmony
idea that we'll have a world where we can say there is a neutral point of view well it's just not true anymore
no neutral point of view any more
when you get authors together in a common space
what they know it turns them into authors
link that has a lot of respect for people because it opens doors instead of putting up wall
link open doors instead of putting up walls
but if the link is into a walled garden?
thinking anew about how we might make a link
make a link
pretty delightful place
web in 1993
Unicode/List of useful symbols Add languages Add links
Peersuite is an opensource, decentralized alternative to apps like discord or slack.
discord or slack
Peersuite, a decentralized workspace
OpenSauced: Nurturing Open Source Collaboration and Growth
How about
Home Brew and Open Sauced
Open Constructs
Tedious reposting on Telegram
Yep
electron desktop versions from github
electron
The best Stack for Open constructs
save it as a PWA
save it as a PWA
working on a nodejs server for permanent workspaces.
node.js server in the works
there's no server saving your work
local-first No Server, No sign in, No sign up
control your data
control your destiny
https://hyp.is/ExUYsOEaEe6IHYM1bUkGyQ/book.peergos.org/overview/overview.html
is building the next web - **the private web, where end users are in control. ** your private online space -
Peergos
motto
Opensource Slack Alternative
search: "open construct"
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Vanilla JS frontend
Open Construct indeed
The "I Could Build This" Moment
famous first words
About pdf2html is a module which helps to convert PDF file to HTML pages using Apache Tika. This module also helps to generate thumbnail image for PDF file using Apache PDFBox.
test
Simprox
engaging in a conscious relationship with the knowledge they hold
Plug in
That could Plug Out for interplay
If you've been following the journey for a while, welcome back
Welcome again
simply impossible to fathom the immensity of this gift which we will receive by giving it to one another
Immensity gift each other
composting it into fruitful soil
Composting soil
reality as the interconnected whole it truly is
Reality interconnected whole
a living substance
Living is ain't no substance
paradigm shift
Flip not just shift
restore the sanity of our [Music] species.
Restore Sanity
psychotoxins polluting the collective consciousness into matic medicine for the human family.
Memetic medicine
attracting even more agents of wholeness
Agents of wholeness
AI powered psychological warfare.
Psychological warfare
gardeners and guardians
Nice
couples reach to coherence.
COuples reach with cogerence
emergent holarch key
Holarchy
dreamw weaving
Yes
Responsibility to dream
, all imported dream nodes remain sovereign
Transcluded
require users to unite stories into unifying holes
Unifying whokes
downregulates manipulation while upregulating inspiration
Spot on
vision gardening
Gardening
bureaucratic hangover
Indeed
collectively
Not collectively but organically inter connected
we don't know what programming is
We do know that programming the very idea is broken
Simonyi dreaming about
The Death of Programming Languages 30 years ago
I don't know what I'm doing
Know what u doing
they grow up with dogma
Dogma
real tragedy would be if people forgot that you could have new ideas about programming models in the first place
Forgot to have new ideas
It all echoes
"The worse is better" 1990 EUROPAL
even more of a tragedy than these ideas not being used would be if these ideas were forgotten
Forgotten
it would be kind of a shame if in forty years we're still coding in procedures in text files in a sequential programming model I think that would suggest we didn't learn anything from this really fertile period in computer science so that would kinda be a tragedy
It would be a tragedy.
Well it is.
in forty years if we're still using threads and locks we should like pack up and go home cuz we've clearly failed as an engineering field
Pack up and go home
After 40 years failed as an engineering field
It still after 50 years,
half a century
I saw all that late eighties
Then Java came a giant leap back for mankind
Then can Go
That's the best Google with it's intellectual firepower could do
Criminal
unless Intel somehow get a stranglehold microprocessor market and pushes this architecture forward thirty years but that's not gonna happen we're going to programming on these things
Haha
the nature of adopting ideas
Big ideas
carry it back into the collectivity.
X
the deep homework t
Inner astronaut
Language is the battleground
X
Culture is a plot against the expansion of consciousness
Plot against
saying you don't understand the basic assumptions of your own culture if your own culture is the only culture you know everybody operates on certain basic assumptions but very few people know
Key
information-handling machines
Information handling
human brains and computing machines will be coupled together very tightly
Tight coupling
symbiosis
Symbiosis
man alone
Or indeed the machine alone
Today people are in the loop for the machine serfs to men behind the machine
Back then the vision was to have the machine in human loops
as we increase what we think we know we increase our exposure to what we do not know this is one of the inevitable laws of our universe but isn't it more interesting to live in a universe where there are unknowns to discover new lands to explore than to live in an absolute box where when you find the edge that's it baby no place to go from
Balloon
balloon
Surface
word find something that you like to do and even if you're supporting your habit by something that you don't like as well two together that's what I did
Yep
these people said they were almost on a one track they said hey this is this is fascinating and I'm going to study it and see what I can discover
Discover on track
capability-hierarchy
cascading hierarchy
definite linear order of actions
executive capability
for - effective concepts
involves such sub-processes as planning, selecting' and supervising, and it is really the executive processes that embody all of the methodology in the H-LAM/T system.
process of organizing and supervising the utilization of these sub-process capabilities is itself a most important sub-process of the memo-writing process.
processes within processes
Go meta young men
process capabilities
affordances
Information+affordances= colonic infometamormhicdances
memorandum
concept and it's name
thou art the ruins
of the noblest man that ever lived - in the tide of times -
Arden me thou bleeding piece of Earth
Ah Pardon me
here we twiddle in a world of computer glitz
as the - winds rise and - the seas rise and - the debts rise and - the terrorists rise and - the nukes tick
given us exalted radical tools for optimization and agreement
Radical tools for
Problem solving
Emergent Consilience in named Trust Networks
Permanent evergreen coevolving
With full provenance and recapitulable resumable history
Where the context of discovery intertwined with the context of learning/teaching explanation timebinding
duck was the real thing
Doug was the real thing
Not just pretended to be naive
euphemized evil
In deed
accelerating collaboration and cooperation
Make it people centered
Interpersonal Augmenting Human interintellect
dynamic knowledge repository he imagined the DKR
Certainly not in the world of corporation
Open Indy mutual learning commons
physical domain
In civilization created domain
in order for anything to manifest
in order for anything to manifest in the physical domain it had to First exist as a thought this computer somebody had to Envision all the parts how it works how it's put together okay this camera equipment the clothes you're wearing the
seats everything that exists had the first exist in the realm of thought
speech falls into the line of the combination of thoughts and emotions and speech is also a form of action
Why freedom of speech matter
our ability to accurately perceive truth of what has happened and what is happening
Truth is not transcendent but perceived
Good articulation can do that
the realm of the individuated Consciousness
Individuated consciousness
Not individual but indviduated
Partaker of consciousness personal se
recognize patterns and meaning with respect to events
Recognize meaning
access other folks who aren't yet particip in the Hol chain app
Yes crucial for spreading the network
take your unified YouTube clone app and break it into separate dnas that actually have different rules of who's running which where
Holonic spps
leecher not a ceda
Feeder
P2P Shipyard
Tauri and wasmer
want to run these apps on my phon
Go browser native solves that
questions
Peergos gives an answer when combined with trystero or emitter.io
skew against distributed applications peer-to-peer applications
Of course
But we need to find a workaround.
It is possible!
operating system it would be harder
But that IS required for scaling reach.
DHT
Distributed hash tables
Power. IPFS
And Peergos but it is named human Actor centered and named communities as well and have huddles of human stewarding them
Ditto for named interest based indy net works powering the intranet.work spaces the IndyWeb
zero Arc
The arc or anchor or Peergos
gossip
Gossip because it is not people centered Everything is an agent
This conception does not leverage the mind of human participants
Which is what is the sweat spot above the threhold
recognition and critical mass
Kickstarter Vola tablet
philosophical and Technical alignment that's been built over a couple of years
Need to make it zero friction emergence of interest based named trust network for cosmolocal production of autonomous capabilities by autonomous named networks of people and holonic capabilities
build applications that don't have that cost
Yes
Indy software in the long tail of the indranet creators and users form their own communities. Sustainability of open infrastructure and production of autonomous open capabilities are possible
ambition to be able to have all of your data applications synchronized across various devices
all your apps synchronising across all your devices
And all your interpersonal collaboration continuous without being synchronous
Collective next dream space contiguous with your entire intranet engagement across all your conversations
crowdfunding slrv to vola Hol chain phones let's say special first edition 4,000 vola with Holo chain and haps
Special first edition Vola with HoloChain apps.
Cross ecosystem interplay ability
content doesn't end up getting used uh to train somebody else's AI algorithm right to figure out how to better manipulate you
AI to manipulate u
right it's you and your peers collaborating freely to back up your content
Peer backup
backup app kind I think of it as like friends and family um backup application called recover
Exactly that but with Peergos And everything that 1 engages on the indranet
one-on-one chats
1on1
encrypted group chat app right relay and
relay
15 may be 10 or 500,
Well said
link to a a Wiki from anywhere
and in doing so establish a connection the author of the wiki receives request for plexes and can get the non public information with mutual provenance or conversational information exchange
need to get to that minimal workable thing which actually compelling
Minimal Viable Progenitor
Not a prototype
Not a product
Not for Patented technology
But like the original wiki by Ward Cunningham the Maker app for web2 collaborative writing
But a Maker App for the IndyWeb the small progenitor the mother of all intranet.work spaces augmenting individuals first human interintellect
bootstrap
Bootstrap not just in a financial sense
To build it to be able to extend it and build it to increase capabilities
private really
Recorded sharing not accessible to robots cannot be harvested by robots
The Wikis are so search engines can find your wikis MEMplEXes are not
plexes you're talking
Places can linked to other places Sequence of clues with their on Outlines that can contain nested clues
A sequence of these constituting the body of a clueon
Of course these clues can contain links to other
Plexes in your MEMplEX or another wiki in your own space or or others or plexes in some body else's MEMplEX
Writely and networked thinking tools
With a clear symmathetic model and born multiplayer conversational async exchanges
shared only video permission
Using peer to peer secure community nication channels
Where each participant in the exchange retain a permanent verifiable record a provenance of the exchange of information
create your plexes just just additional Pages
Really Clue Pages or Clueons
Using Indi.pad that works with associated complexes of clue pages or Clueons CluePlexes
No longer trying to impose a page hierarchy although you can create narrative trails or organize Clueons into Outlines too
have cross links
to other Wikis in your space or anywhere in the web or the indyweb with back links
So we have a distributed spaces of Wikis across the web all potentially meaningfully interconnected using high resolution addresses As each page has a unique web address and on any page anchors can be added and since all this URLs resolve to some we hosted Wikis they are publically available but they are attributed verifiably to some named trusted human indynet actor
each Wiki is dedicated to some topic
named topic or as an about wiki for the folder it appears in where 1 can capture information pertinent to the files in the folder and documenting at a high level all subfolder and link to about pages in subfolders
create many wikis
in any of your own indranet.work spaces in some folder tree
Local Filesystem
IPFS Desktop running locally
In a folder tree rooted in one that is bound to a self assigned identity That can be your Peergos account
or
A folder in a structure owned by whoever invited you to be a trusted person by somebody already participant in the indyNet with their own indraner.work space
Ep. 5 NGI Architects: The Peergos Project
Must listen
quine
Fixed point (mathematics)
Collective intelligence: A unifying concept for integrating biology across scales and substrates
X
local-first software
proritize local - storage - networks
interpersonal computing - local first - offline first - async eventual consistent replication - real-tim when participant are available
dream space - conversations that are continuous- without being syncronous
yet - contiguous and - eventual consistent
with the partiipant's entire - HyperInterPlexed - interpersonal - named - permanent - evergreen indranet.work spaces
-
It is possible to create software
It is possible to create software - that has all the advantages of cloud apps, - while also allowing you to retain full ownership of - the data, documents and files you create.
You own your data, in spite of the cloud
Truly seminal paper, best of class
CRDTs in practice
used Orbitdb 6 years ago
It did seem to work perfectly
namedlocal first replicated databases
allyouneed it seemed back in 2018
Local-first software You own your data, in spite of the cloud
All time most important web paper
Scuttlebutt Stories
SPELL AGAINST INDIFFERENCE
x
"Spell Against Indifference" by Maria Popova
x
PZP Docs
It would be a shame to go to all that trouble to decentralize, but then adopt a singleton.
can adopt a singleton tht is out there and can be accessed from anywhere. That is a virtual singleton. As long as there is one machine that contain the content addressed via the DHT that information is accessible
having a global permanent namespace that is permanent unstoppable is a gift to mandking
as long as you store only encrypted information it can be secure and private
monoculture of information
monoculture of information
Design Challenge: Avoid Centralization and Singletons
x
No DHTs or other singletons
DHT singleton to
Launch of the PZP protocol and the future of ManyversePublished on 5 July 2024 by Jacob Karlsson
jotspot
thinking small to get big
IdeaLoom is a Collective Intelligence platform
for - Indy.Loom
IdeaLoom is a - Collective Intelligence platform,
which allows large communities to hold - a meaningful conversation at scale , - reach a common understanding, and - develop solutions beyond what each participant could have envisioned.
IdeaLoom allows - a structured navigation of conversations on complex issues,
through a unique synthesis of - social software and - iterative concept mapping.
Advent of Computing - Episode 79 - ZOG: Military Strength Hypertext
We're getting back to my hypertext series with a big of an obscure tale. ZOG is a hypertext system what was first developed in 1972 at Carnegie-Melon University. It then stagnated until the latter ha..
Coordinated set of user interface principles.
Coordinated set of user interface principles. - Over the many application areas within a knowledge workshop,
these principles shape user interface features such as - the. language, - control conventions, and - methods for obtaining online help and training.
eatures that firstappeared in NLS
features that first appeared in NLS: - The mouse - 2 dimensional display editing and windows - Hypermedia with integrated e-mail - Document version control - in-file object addressing and linking - Outline processing - Shared screen teleconferencing - Context sensitive help - Distributed client-server architecture - Extensible, user-programmable tools
develop technology required to augment the knowledgework
develop technology required to augment the knowledge work of - first individuals, then - groups of collaborators
first - in a single location, and then - in communities - distributed - over wide area networks - such as the ARPANET.
:: self.link: https://via.hypothes.is/https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/286498.286506
osters acooperative community of organizations interested in stm-tegically improving their collective improvement capabili-ties
community of organisations
All objects intrinsically addressable, linkable, and ma-nipulable
need IPFS Peergos for that
ugment, Bootstrap Communities, the Web: What Next?
serendipity lead me to this
for - value.prop - IndyWeb - Net Dashboard - launch community
Augment, bootstrap communities, the Web: what next?
Douglas Engerlbart
moore's law everything improved
Gyuri Lajostrailmarksltd
Flight of the Starlings: Watch This Eerie but Beautiful Phenomenon | Short Film Showcase
nurmurations
“the future is already present, it’s just not evenly distributed yet”.
not evenly distributed
–this murmuration– t
murmuration
