It doesn't always have to be difficult
Rescuer role agenda
It doesn't always have to be difficult
Rescuer role agenda
when we are in conflict with others
Karpman's Triangle
Love
Rescuer role
Good
Rescuer role
This picture made me cry a lot
Blatant change of subject and "pity play". Final victim role of the conflict.
I just want to love and be loved
Codependency
open and free spirit of children
Untraumatized* spirit
pride and resentment
Ego*
inner child
Wounded* inner child. The motif Danny had tried endlessly to impress on Karen.
I don’t know how to change it
Karen did know. Therapy was the only way. She refused.
how about positively
Calling out her limiting, victimhood mentality and the need for her to adapt into an empowering, abundance mentality.
Our inability
Her*
You made a very far reaching claim and then didn’t support it
Calling out gaslighting, quicksanding, and deflection of accountability
past three weeks
Hyperbolic exaggeration
you want this man to be very apathetic
Translates to "a beta" that she can control and domesticate. Or an alpha she can tame, which is highly unlikely given her high level of insecurity and antisocial behavior.
I have said that the way you handle things is not good enough for a healthy relationship
Less than empathetic, but effective, way of explaining the miscommunication
I’m not good enough
"Pity play" and projection
You’ve made very pointed statements about your wife not having unhealthy obsessions and being emotional and crying when they see dogs being rescued
Karen misunderstands the nature of these statements. Danny issued these statements in an effort to show Karen how her "little princess and the pea" games make her out to be more compassionate for others than she actually is, as evidenced by her inability to be compassionate towards Danny when his health was in question.
communication, compassion, kindness, humor, ambition, longevity
Taking the higher moral ground
You’re reiterated to me so many tones that you’d never marry somebody with my traits
"Quicksanding" by changing the subject to a projected emotion that is irrelevant to the conflict at hand
where we tend to each other’s needs
Codependency
I would be happier with someone who is nicer and more considerate than you
"Going meta" by explaining Karen is avoiding accountability for her conduct.
All I do is disappoint you
Avoidants need to feel like they "get it right" and that their partner is proud of them, rather than continually disappointed.
It’s how I feel
Emotional base, not rational base
Why do you do that
Calling out "pity play"
I think you’d be happier with somebody who communicates better
"Pity play". Feigning incompetence.
we’re just gonna continue the same cycles
Verbatim calling out the Traumatic Bond, without the knowledge of what a traumatic bond consists of.
in spite of how much I have preached I don’t appreciate that
Evidence of Karen's cognition that her avoidant and manipulative behavior in conflict is highly detrimental to Danny. Persecutor role.
I should not ever have to bear the burden of our misunderstandings
Codependency evidence of internalization. Victim role.
I can’t go back in time
Avoiding accountability. Victim role.
share that responsibility
Verbatim spreading responsibility when this is not appropriate.
shortcomings
Wrong word choice. "mistakes" is more fitting. Shortcomings are personality defects that don't belong in the context of conflict resolution.
we were both frustrated with the lack of understanding
Again spreading the blame in order to avoid accountability. While it can be said Danny did lack understanding that would have aided in conflict resolution, the onus of lacking compassion falls on Karen.
kind and understanding one
Codependency expectations
I just don’t understand
Victim role
i checked out
Admittance of avoidant behavior at the sign of conflict. Shutting down emotions and creating distance.
I wasn’t all that polite and said some rude things
Danny is taking personal responsibility for his persecutor role.
I could work on that
Offering behavioral changes
We had both said more to each other
Attempting to spread the accountability in order to avoid addressing her behavior head on. Victim role
my concerns come above your distaste
Danny's health not being considered at all is an unacceptable red flag and deal-breaker
But
The "but" negates accepting the apology
I acted selfishly and I’m sorry
Karen is taking personal responsibility here for her persecutor role after having been show all of her maladaptive defense mechanisms were not going to absolve her of accountability for her conduct.
I had no support from you
Explaining Karen's emotional unavailability
I was starting to freak out
Indicates beginning of amygdala hijack
like I expect any caretaker role in my life to do
"Caretaker role" indicates codependency. Nobody wants to be Danny's mother. He is responsible for his own well-being without internalizing the conduct of others.
I just looked over it Karen
"Going meta". Explaining Karen is gaslighting and not telling the truth. Persecutor role
You could have heard me out
Gaslighting. No attempt was made
Beg for your sympathy
At times, Danny did beg for Karen's sympathy
accusing me of things
Gaslighting. No accusations were made. Danny expressed Karen not meeting his needs
You told me to chill out
Diminishing
that became ridiculous to me
Disregard for others
And you didn’t give me a chance to explain that
Victim role
Almost immediately
Gaslighting
receiving end
True statement, but incognizant of the behavior that induced such things said
That’s how I feel
Emotional base, not rational base
So many times I’ve felt attacked unjustly
Hypersensitivity to criticism induces shutting down and avoidance
omg you’re being ridiculous
Deflection fueled by fear of letting Danny down or "not getting it right"
leads me to this criticism
Criticism is not healthy. Collaborative feedback is.
that mindset makes a fair two-sided relationship impossible
Pointing out the unbalanced power dynamics were not acceptable
egocentric
Synonymous with narcissistic
you can’t take criticism
Greatest indication of narcissism - hypersensitivity to criticism
You insult me
Gaslighting
you’re not considering me
"Going meta" and describing how this train of thought is irrational
When I bail it’s because I think we’d be better off alone
Describing devaluing/discarding motivation
I’m not the one that bails every time
Calling out devaluing and discarding
How much of that is my fault
Again, "show me the hand". Persecutor role
poor communication and escalation without resolution
Aware of issue, but deflecting of accountability
Tell me how the fights happen then
"Show me the hand" response to microaggression
I’m not happy.
She's not happy because Danny expressed she was emotionally absent...?
defending ourselves
Being defensive is a defense mechanism. Balanced relationships don't involve defending against attacks.
We aren’t supposed to
Avoidance of conflict. Unrealistic expectations.
ALL we’ve done is fight
Quicksanding - changing the subject away from Danny's concern. Hyperbolic statement.
Why are you making it so difficult?
Victim
block me
Strategy used by Karen often during conflict to create distance in an effect of self-preservation. The sole reason this conversation was on Facebook. Avoidant
treat me like this
Victim
What is your problem
Persecutor
I fucking give you everything
Victim
You fail to process and honor the emotions and struggles of other people
Pointing out lack of empathy (#1 trait of narcissism). Persecutor
victim when in fact you victimized me
Pointing out gaslighting. Victim
abusive and neglectful
Pointing out narcissistic abuse. Persecutor
I needed your support
Codependency. Victim
doesn’t seem enjoyable or healthy
Refusing to be domesticated
slightest sign of discomfort sends you running for the hills
Pointing out avoidance
“I didn’t expect us to reconcile”
Pointing out cyclical discarding
your friends would be disappointed
Triangulation by proxy
big Karen pants
Shaming
dealing with a breakup
Pointing out Karen's avoidance led to cyclical breakups. Devaluing at the sign of conflict.
Not everything is a threat
Pointing out avoidance
Your apology was half-assed
Persecutor
you left me hanging alone
Victim
talk shit to me
Gaslighting
And you continued to put me down
Victim
I’m beyond disappointed in you
Shaming criticism. Attempt to claim moral high ground.
I deserve
Victim
Feb 13, 2018, 4:44 PM
Triangulation