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unpublished reply to nagytimi85 at https://old.reddit.com/r/Zettelkasten/comments/1gfru60/zettelkasten_and_ocd_with_a_side_dish_of_drama/
A solid sign that you're doing zettelkasten well is being banned by SS from r/antinet. He's got a well-documented history of pushing toxic bro culture and marketing-zettelbabble in an overly religio-cultish manner. SS eventually bans everyone from that subreddit that doesn't toe his line or join the marketing pyramid scheme/sales funnel he's designed. I know a variety of people who wear their bans as a badge of honor, so congratulations and welcome to the club.
Doto's book is solidly miles ahead of Scheper's from a practical and philosophical viewpoint and at 1/3 the length is much easier to digest in time and effort. Scheper is likely peeved that he's rightly taken to task on pp125-126 of A System for Writing for his book's poor writing and style.
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This is an incredible post.FYI: Just so people don't think I'm ignoring this post, I'm answering it inside the thread Chadrick will be posting inside my Tribe (the private community people get access to with The Scott Scheper Letter).Still, please feel free to post here and share your thoughts. 🗃🗃🚀
And to follow on to https://hypothes.is/a/l-ktRn9aEe6CBLNbaJGEbA, dear leader approves the idea, but shills for the "private community" and refers to it as his Tribe.
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SOME OTHER THOUGHTS on Antinet Evangelistic Starter Boxes: While watching Scott's 1 on 1 with Peter "The Antinet Prince" when they were discussing having the starting categories somewhere, a thought occurred to me. We should have a box created/manufactured and pre-populated with the main sections, basic outline cards, and some starting cards (a few of each type) with blanks to reformulate some pre-printed excerpt notes. This could have a bunch of foundational stuff from Luhmann's material. It could lead to a whole line of Antinet boxes (cool drawers that are stackable/expandable) and other helpful stuff. I worked for a plastics mold manufacturing company for over 10 years and have a lot of good friends there still. I'd be willing to help in the process if others think this might be a worthwhile endeavor. What do you think u/sscheper?
https://www.reddit.com/r/antinet/comments/17rbqaz/teaching_is_the_best_way_to_learn/
Example of someone using the phrase "Antinet Evangelistic Starter Boxes". It's a box of cards for god's sake! If you're going to productize it, then be a capitalist about it, but "evangelizing" it?!
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@coachdan007 1 month ago "Fleeting Notes", "Literature Notes", and "Permanent Notes" are terms created by Sonke Ahrens, not Luhmann. Luhmann never wrote in the margins of any text he read. I spent a long time trying to learn how to build a zettelkesten. There really is a "best practice." Videos like this actually limit one's ability to find that best practice by advocating for terms and workflows that simply are not indicative to anything Luhmann did or advocated. I wish you well on your learning of this topic. But the video is neither a good starting point nor a good resting point. Keep digging.
Example of a Scheper cultist telling someone else they're doing it wrong and (in the follow up comment) telling them how to do it "right" (the Scheper way).
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@subem81 thank you so much for your feedback. I did not mean to come off as any kind of a troll. And I appreciate you taking the time to adjust my perspective. I was going kind of fast when I replied. You're 100% correct that if I took the time to comment, then I should have not done it half-assed. The reason I commented was because I have experienced the frustration that many have in implementing a zettelkasten. I tried Roam (using Beau Haan's methodology) and Notion. The main text everyone likes to reference is "How to Write Smart Notes" but after I learned how to do an analog zettelkasten, it really became a valuable tool. I was a little reticent to recommend someone else's channel when commenting inside another person's channel. But, given your feedback, I think my choice was not ideal. So, for what it's worth, my zettelkasten journey was helped dramatically by @scottscheper and his ANTINET methodology. His youtube channel, his reddit group, his book, and his paid course are incredibly insightful. I have no affiliation other than as a customer. Again, thanks so much for your very kind feedback. I will be more careful going forward. -dan
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@jsnyrty3917 1 month ago Niklas Luhmann never used fleeting notes or atomic notes and didn’t underline or highlight for his zettelkasten, that has nothing to do with it. Stop parroting Sonke Ahren’s book’s inventions and trying to say it’s for zettelkasten. Maybe go see how it’s actually done from a primary source.
Another example who throws out a comment bomb only to follow up with Scott Scheper.
One wonders if these examples may even be sock puppet accounts owned by Scott?
@jsnyrty3917 is less than a year old with no content at all: https://www.youtube.com/@jsnyrty3917/featured
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@DrMaddy101 @DrMaddy101 @DrMaddy101 1 month ago hey, thanks for your input - you sound like an advanced Zettelkasten-er. Any recommendations for those that want the full version? Show less Read more 0 Like 0 Dislike Reply @DrMaddy101 @DrMaddy101 0/ Cancel Reply Add a reply... @jsnyrty3917 1 month ago @DrMaddy101 not advanced simply used primary sources and secondary sources like Scott Scheper’s youtube channel which explains it accurately.
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I would recommend caution here as Scheper approaches the subject like a cult, which it patently is not. He also has the tendency to gatekeep, gaslight others, and create a toxic environment. He's selling you something, and he's being rude about it at the same time. Even though he attempts to maintain something closely akin to Luhmann's practice, his poorly edited book distinctly suggests some very non-Luhmann-esque practices. The zettelkasten tradition is much richer and deeper than the surface level discussion of Luhmann. Using him as your only model is perforce going to be tremendously limiting. You'll find additional excellent (and even some more productive) examplars hiding in the works of Aristotle, Cicero, Quintilian, Seneca, Boethius, Thomas Aquinas, Desiderius Erasmus, Rodolphus Agricola, Philip Melancthon, Konrad Gessner, John Locke, Carl Linnaeus, Thomas Harrison, Vincentius Placcius, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, S. D. Goitein, Gotthard Deutsch, Beatrice Webb, Sir James Murray, Marcel Mauss, Claude Lévi-Strauss, Mortimer J. Adler, Niklas Luhmann, Roland Barthes, Umberto Eco, Jacques Barzun, Vladimir Nabokov, George Carlin, Twyla Tharp, Gertrud Bauer, and even Eminem. We really need to put an end to the "Cult of Luhmann" philosophy which is going around.
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