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- Dec 2023
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normal crisis in the system for most people is degrowth like 00:22:22 most people's living standards don't rise that's so it's it's divorced from the experience that that most people have in in in the UK you know where we're where we're speaking from wages at 00:22:36 the same level they were in 2005 rents aren't bills aren't your groceries aren't but your pay is so um you know most people have been experiencing 00:22:49 degrowth that's the comms reason why it's bad
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for: degrowth - criticism - bad communication, suggestion - growth and degrowth simultaneously
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suggestion
- evolution / transition / transformation are better terms as it indicates something is dying at the same time diverging is being born
- it is highly misleading to think one dimensionally as there are many things that have to degrow and many things that have to grow simultaneously
- degrowth of carbon emissions, which implies pragmatically in the short time scale noe available a significant degrowth of fossil fuels
- growth of a new energy system to replace much of it
- degrowth of unnecessary and harmful consumption accompanied
- growth of holistic network of root level wellbeing activities and the low carbon infrastructure to support it
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there are sort of 00:17:41 two broad um programs or ideas that deal with this or that try to engage with this issue they have pockets of support 00:17:52 one is the idea of a green New Deal or a global Green New Deal and the other one is degrowth and and I don't think that either of those work for different reasons
- for: quote, climate futures - both green new deal and regrowth don't work, green new deal - criticism, degrowth - criticism
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- degrowth - criticism
- climate futures - green new deal - degrowth
- Green new deal - criticism
- suggestion ,- growth and degrowth simultaneously
- degrowth - criticism - bad communication
- quote - both green new deal and degrowth won't work
- suggestion - transition - growth - degrowth - complexity
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