here's also a kind of Shadow side to this approach which is which we could call maybe religios as opposed to religious in in 00:03:51 English it's religious o-s-e adjective and um this is very very common actually in ecological language whether it's in newspapers or books or anything music art anything that says that there needs 00:04:05 to be a very profound sudden massive change in ourselves um is is I think a dangerous

you don't 00:33:51 have to be ecological because you are ecological yeah you do not require some kind of massive transformation something in here knows that you're an ecological being 00:34:06 because you are you're a life form yeah all you have to do is notice right that you are already yeah and my cat for real knows I'm an ecological being right that my cat Oliver is relying on me to give 00:34:20 him the food every day he knows that he coexists with me in some kind of relationship right so we don't have to think anything special right we have to do things right we have to do things and 00:34:33 the thing we have to do is incredibly simple to say we have to stop burning carbon um that's it right you just have to stop it