- Jan 2024
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sometimes people ask me uh is it possible that we're living in a simulation that all this is you know that reality isn't what we and and if you think about it it's not just 00:52:31 possible it's guaranteed
for - adjacency - sensory bubble - umwelt - living in a simulation - Daisetz Suzuki - elbow doesn't bend backwards - quote - Michael Levin - illusion
adjacency - between - sensory bubble - umwelt - living in a simulation - Daisetz Suzuki - the elbow does not bend backwards - adjacency statement - In the Tibetan Buddhist epistemology, the illusory body training is to experience both one's body and reality as an illusion in the sense that nothing is static and fixed - From this perspective, we are all temporary states of convergence of the recirculating elements of emptiness - Daisetz Suzuki, the enlightened Japanese Zen monk who is credited to be one of the ones who brought Zen to the West said that when he experienced Kensho, he could suddenly understand the puzzling koan "The elbow does not bend backwards" with great clarity. - Form is a concentration and temporary consolidation of emptiness, the limitations inherent in any form does not denigrate is absolute origins from unlimited emptiness - The Heart Sutra expresses the equivalence of form and emptiness, finite and infinite. - In Deep Humanity, we have a saying: - To be or not to be - that is the question - To be AND not to be - that is the answer
- Quote: Michael Levin
- Sometimes people ask me
"is it possible that we're living in a simulation?
- and and if you think about it it's not just possible it's guaranteed.
- There's no other way it could possibly be
- If you think about what is the opposite of that
- the opposite of that is that you somehow have a physically embodied cognitive structure that
- is able to,
- is not limited in its sensory perceptions
- is not limited in the amount of memory and computations
- the opposite of that is that you somehow have a physically embodied cognitive structure that
- All of us are limited beings
- All of us evolved under constraints of
- time
- energy and
- everything else -We see a tiny, little, narrow slit in the electromagnetic spectrum
- We have a few other things
- like chemical senses of things that are right there on your tongue and
- on your fingers and so on
- we have a little bit of memory
- we have this wet squishy substrate
- that's very error prone and
- needs to be constantly maintained
- and all our memories have to be the actively rewritten
- We were evolved under specific pressures under those conditions
- Who could possibly think that that we are not living in some sort of very specific representation of reality
- that is limited in many ways
- That's not to say
- it isn't adaptive and that
- Donald Hoffman would say that in many ways it is completely wrong
- I I think there's probably some truth to that
- but in other ways I think the the big lesson from all this is that
- we are all a brain and a vat
- Of course we are a brain sitting inside this thing that gives us various stimuli
- We try to make the best sense of it that we can and creatures will adapt to
- This is why you can do
- sensory substitution and
- sensory augmentation and why
- you can have neurons in the dish that play Pong
- but these systems will try to make
sense of whatever world they're given
- in whatever configuration they have and we do the same
- So yeah absolutely it's an illusion
- but it's not an illusion in the sense that there is some other way to have perfect direct perception of some underlying reality
- When we say it's an illusion or a simulation
- It just acknowledges the fact that we are finite limited beings
- whose job it is to make the best sense we can
- using the hardware that we have
- of what's been going on up until now and what we predict is going to be going on
- I don't know of another story that could possibly make sense
- Sometimes people ask me
"is it possible that we're living in a simulation?
- Quote: Michael Levin
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- Jul 2022
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t what is an individual 01:13:07 okay so why why the why in the world would i why would we ask this question and why would i spend you know multiple pages in this paper even discussing like of course we know what 01:13:20 an individual is right or or maybe not like like that actually turns out to be a difficult question what is an individual and it's important to this and it's important to this discussion of societal 01:13:33 systems because who are we who what you know what is the purpose of a societal system what is it what is it who is it supposed to serve you know so you have to ask really like 01:13:45 it's it's good to ask if we're going to build a societal system who wh who is it that it's supposed to service you know like who are we what do we want you know it's part of 01:13:57 figuring out what do we want what do we value who are we start there you know i would say so so we've already kind of touched on these themes but 01:14:09 this idea of rugged individualism you know like from a certain perspective and a certain you know from a limited sort of time frame perspective sure there's there's a rugged individualism that exists right and it can be useful in 01:14:22 certain certain situations but by and large that's not what life is doing you know that's not what the the they're um we are we are 01:14:36 it's really even difficult to say like where if i'm a rugged individual where do i actually start and where do i end you know like where is where is me this you know even physically it's hard to say 01:14:48 because this physical me is really i think more bacterial cells than it is um human cells right so so uh like i'm a sieve i'm a i'm a process through which things are 01:15:02 flowing through i'm a i'm an ecosystem myself with bacteria and viruses and human cells and all of those components are necessary for me to survive today and for for 01:15:14 humans to survive you know over eons were like a mix we're a bag of of human-like things and bacterial-like things and viral-like things and 01:15:26 and we're porous and we're part of the carbon cycle and we're part of the nitrogen cycle and then you and then when you say like okay well how could you be a rugged individual individual when you're really 01:15:38 this this porous smorgasbord of things right
What is an individual? This is a very fundamental question that John asks, especially from the evolutionary biological perspective as life has evolved over billions of years and what were once separate individuals, came together in Major Evolution Transitions (MET) to form a NEW grouping of what were former individuals to form a new cohesive, higher order individual. Life is therefore COMPOSITIONAL. When these groups of individuals increase fitness by clustering together and mutually benefit from each other, they then reproduce together as a cluster.
Watch this informative video by Oxford researcher explaining MET: https://hyp.is/go?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdocdrop.org%2Fvideo%2FVUfNEHl44hc%2F&group=world and watch Amanda Robbin's video on research on the same question from an information systems perspective: https://hyp.is/go?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdocdrop.org%2Fvideo%2F6J-J72GoqhY%2F&group=world based on her paper: https://hyp.is/go?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.frontiersin.org%2Farticles%2F10.3389%2Ffevo.2021.711556%2Ffull&group=world
Stop Reset Go and Deep Humanity praxis adopts the same view that the individual human being is a process, a nexus of many different flows of the natural world....and consciousness is part of the that - 4E - Embedded, Enacted, Embodied and Extended. We are more appropriately called a human INTERbeing, and even more appropriately a human INTERbeCOMing (since we are more process than static thing) both from material and information flow perspective.
Our consciousness is at a specific level, associated with a body with sensory bubble that constrains it to this particular scale of experience - not microscopic and not planetary. It gives us a unique lens into the other scales of the individual that are purely cognitive, and only indirectly sensed via instrumentation that extends our naked senses. That siuatedness and perspectival knowing gives us a uniquely, distorted view of reality.
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- Jun 2022
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www.linkedin.com www.linkedin.com
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What happens in Indonesia when a textile manufacturer illegally dumps dye waste!
This is an example of the manufacturer / consumer dualism created by the Industrial Revolution. Since manufacturers have become a separate layer that no longer exist as part of the community, as artisans once did, along with globalized capitalism, the consumer does not know the life history of the product being consumed. The sensory bubble limits what a consumer can directly know.
One answer is to promote a trend back to local and artisan production. Relocalizing production can empower consumers to inspect producers of the products they consume, holding them accountable.
Another answer is to develop globalized trust networks of producers who are truly ethical.
Cosmolocal production has networks by the commons nature can promote such values.
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- Apr 2022
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joanakompa.com joanakompa.com
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David Chalmer’s beautiful metaphor of the ‘Extended Mind’ (Chalmers, 1998). Chalmers promotes the idea that media, such as, e.g., smartphones, have already begun to function as an extension to our mind, allowing us to navigate and manage an increasingly complex world
The extended mind of Chalmers is like the expansion of the sensory bubble in Stop Reset Go / Deep Humanity framing. It can also be seen as an extension of our Umwelt (Uexskull).
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- Sep 2021
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there's a fact of the matter right this minute about whether your high school 00:22:51 sweetheart is thinking about you you just can't tell but the universe knows that fact is there
This is the existential reality of humans, that we only know that which is in our own limited sensory bubble. We have zero access to that which lay beyond. Only a fool would argue there is nothing happening out there if we don’t sense it, and yet we have no way to prove it. This is an intrinsic epistemological disconnect with reality that makes each of us feel an intrinsic sense of alienation. Why is our consciousness constrained in this profound way?
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