Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Salmonella exploits host- and bacteria-derived β-alanine to efficiently replicate in host macrophages and cause systemic disease. β-alanine executes this by increasing the expression of zinc transporter genes and therefore the uptake of zinc by intracellular Salmonella.

Strengths:

The experiments designed are thorough and the claims made are directly related to the outcome of the experiments. No overreaching claims were made.

Weaknesses:

A little deeper insight was expected, particularly towards the mechanistic aspects. For example, zinc transport was found to be the cause of the b-alanine-mediated effect on Salmonella intracellular replication. It would have been very interesting to see which are the governing factors that may get activated or inhibited due to Zn accumulation that supports such intracellular replication.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Salmonella is interesting due to its life within a compact compartment, which we call SCV or Salmonella containing vacuole in the field of Salmonella. SCV is a tight-fitting vacuole where the acquisition of nutrients is a key factor by Salmonella. The authors among many nutrients, focussed on beta-alanine. It is also known from many other studies that Salmonella requires beta-alanine. The authors have done in vitro RAW macrophage infection assays and In vivo mouse infection assays to see the life of Salmonella in the presence of beta-alanine. They concluded by comprehending that beta-alanine modulates the expression of many genes including zinc transporters which are required for pathogenesis.

Strengths:

This study made a couple of knockouts in Salmonella and did a transcriptomic investigation to understand the global gene expression pattern.

Weaknesses:

The following questions are unanswered:

(1) It is not clear how the exogenous beta-alanine is taken up by macrophages.

(2) It is not clear how the Beta-alanine from the cytosol of the macrophage enters the SCV.

(3) It is not clear how the beta-alanine from SCV enters the bacterial cytosol.

(4) There is no clarity on the utilization of exogenous beta-alanine of the host and the de novo synthesis of beta-alanine by panD of Salmonella.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The paper by Tolossa et al. presents classification studies that aim to predict the anatomical location of a neuron from the statistics of its in-vivo firing pattern. They study two types of statistics (ISI distribution, PSTH) and try to predict the location at different resolutions (region, subregion, cortical layer).

Strengths:

This paper provides a systematic quantification of the single-neuron firing vs location relationship.

The quality of the classification setup seems high.

The paper uncovers that, at the single neuron level, the firing pattern of a neuron carries some information on the neuron's anatomical location, although the predictive accuracy is not high enough to rely on this relationship in most cases.

Weaknesses:

As the authors mention in the Discussion, it is not clear whether the observed differences in firing are epiphenomenal. If the anatomical location information is useful to the neuron, to what extent can this be inferred from the vicinity of the synaptic site, based on the neurotransmitter and neuromodulator identities? Why would the neuron need to dynamically update its prediction of the anatomical location of its pre-synaptic partner based on activity when that location is static, and if that information is genetically encoded in synaptic proteins, etc (e.g., the type of the synaptic site)? Note that the neuron does not need to classify all possible locations to guess the location of its pre-synaptic partner because it may only receive input from a subset of locations. If an argument on activity-based estimation being more advantageous to the neuron than synaptic site-based estimation cannot be made, I believe limiting the scope of the paper (e.g., in the Introduction) to an epiphenomenal observation and its quantification will improve the scientific quality.Life Assessment

This article reports a useful set of findings on how electrophysiological response properties of neurons correlate with their position in the brain. The evidence currently remains incomplete, with reviewers making specific suggestions for how clustering needs to be redone. The manuscript would also benefit from a more focused presentation of results and the removal of incorrect claims about recording biases.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Tolossa et al. analyze Inter-spike intervals from various freely available datasets from the Allen Institute and from a dataset from Steinmetz et al. They show that they can modestly decode between gross brain regions (Visual vs. Hippocampus vs. Thalamus), and modestly separate sub-areas within brain regions (DG vs. CA1 or various visual brain areas).

Strengths:

The paper is reasonably well written, and the definitions are quite well done. For example, the authors clearly explained transductive vs. inductive inference in their decoders. E.g., transductive learning allows the decoder to learn features from each animal, whereas inductive inference focuses on withheld animals and prioritizes the learning of generalizable features.

Weaknesses:

However, even with some of these positive aspects, I still found the manuscript to be a laundry list of results, where some results are overly explained and not particularly compelling or interesting, whereas interesting results are not strongly described or emphasized. The overall problem is that the study is not cohesive, and the authors need to either come up with a tool or demonstrate a scientific finding. The current version attempts to split the middle and thus is not as impactful as it could be.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Mitotic kinesins carry out crucial roles in intracellular motility and mitotic spindle organization. Although many mitotic kinesins have been extensively studied, a few conserved mitotic motors remain poorly explored, including chromosome-associated kinesins. Here, Furusaki et al reconstitute recombinant chromosome-associated kinesin or chromokinesin (Kid) and reveal processive plus-end motility along microtubules. The authors purify multiple versions of Kid, revealing dimeric organization and their processive microtubule plus-ended motility which depends on their conserved motor domains, neck linkers, and coiled-coil regions. The study reveals for the first time that KID can recruit and transport duplex DNA along microtubules using its conserved C-terminal DNA binding domain. The work provides crucial revised thinking about the mechanisms of Chromokinesins mitosis as physical processive motors that mobilize chromosomes towards the microtubule plus ends in early metaphase.

Strengths:

The authors reconstitute multiple chromosome-associated kinesin (KID) orthologs from Xenopus and humans with microtubules and determine their oligomerization. The study shows how coiled-coil and neck linker regions of KID are essential for its function as its deletion leads to non-processive motility. CHimeras placing the KID coiled-coil and neck linker on the KIF1A motor domain led to the production of a processive recombinant motor supporting the compatibility of their motility mechanisms. The KID c-terminal tail binds and transports only double-stranded DNA and its deletion or single-stranded DNA leads to defects in this activity.

Weaknesses:

A minor weakness in the studies is that they do not resolve the mechanisms of KID in binding large duplex DNA molecules or condensed chromatin. The authors suggest a model in which KID forms multimers along large chromosomes that lead to their transport, but this model was not directly tested.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Previous work in the field highlighted the role of the kinesin-10 motor protein Kid (KIF22) in the polar ejection force during prometaphase. However, the biochemical and biophysical properties of Kid that enabled it to serve in this role were unclear. The authors demonstrate that human and xenopus Kid proteins are processive kinesins that function as homodimeric molecules. The data are solid and support the findings although the text could use some editing to improve clarity.

Strengths:

A highlight of the work is the reconstitution of DNA transport in vitro.

A second highlight is the demonstration that the monomer vs dimer state is dependent on protein concentration.

Weaknesses:

The authors make several assumptions of the monomer vs dimer state of various Kid constructs without verifying the protein state using e.g. size exclusion chromatography and/or nanophotometry. They also make statements about monomer-to-dimer transitions on the microtubule without showing or quantifying the data.

The discussion needs to better put the work into context regarding the ability of non-processive motors to work in teams (formerly thought to be the case for Kid) and how their findings on Kid change this prevailing view in the case of polar ejection force.

The authors also do not mention previous work on kinesins with non-conventional neck linker/neck coil regions that have been shown to move processively. Their work on Kid needs to be put into this context.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The study by McKim et al seeks to provide a comprehensive description of the connectivity of neurosecretory cells (NSCs) using a high-resolution electron microscopy dataset of the fly brain and several single-cell RNA seq transcriptomic datasets from the brain and peripheral tissues of the fly. They use connectomic analyses to identify discrete functional subgroups of NSCs and describe both the broad architecture of the synaptic inputs to these subgroups as well as some of the specific inputs including from chemosensory pathways. They then demonstrate that NSCs have very few traditional presynapses consistent with their known function as providing paracrine release of neuropeptides. Acknowledging that EM datasets can't account for paracrine release, the authors use several scRNAseq datasets to explore signaling between NSCs and characterize widespread patterns of neuropeptide receptor expression across the brain and several body tissues. The thoroughness of this study allows it to largely achieve it's goal and provides a useful resource for anyone studying neurohormonal signaling.

Strengths:

The strengths of this study are the thorough nature of the approach and the integration of several large-scale datasets to address short-comings of individual datasets. The study also acknowledges the limitations that are inherent to studying hormonal signaling and provides interpretations within the the context of these limitations.

Weaknesses:

Overall, the framing of this paper needs to be shifted from statements of what was done to what was found. Each subsection, and the narrative within each, is framed on topics such as "synaptic output pathways from NSC" when there are clear and impactful findings such as "NSCs have sparse synaptic output". Framing the manuscript in this way allows the reader to identify broad takeaways that are applicable to other model system. Otherwise, the manuscript risks being encyclopedic in nature. An overall synthesis of the results would help provide the larger context within which this study falls.

The cartoon schematic in Figure 5A (which is adapted from a 2020 review) has an error. This schematic depicts uniglomerular projection neurons of the antennal lobe projecting directly to the lateral horn (without synapsing in the mushroom bodies) and multiglomerular projection neurons projecting to the mushroom bodies and then lateral horn. This should be reversed (uniglomerular PNs synapse in the calyx and then further project to the LH and multiglomerular PNs project along the mlACT directly to the LH) and is nicely depicted in a Strutz et al 2014 publication in eLife.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors aim to provide a comprehensive description of the neurosecretory network in the adult Drosophila brain. They sought to assign and verify the types of 80 neurosecretory cells (NSCs) found in the publicly available FlyWire female brain connectome. They then describe the organization of synaptic inputs and outputs across NSC types and outline circuits by which olfaction may regulate NSCs, and by which Corazon-producing NSCs may regulate flight behavior. Leveraging existing transcriptomic data, they also describe the hormone and receptor expressions in the NSCs and suggest putative paracrine signaling between NSCs. Taken together, these analyses provide a framework for future experiments, which may demonstrate whether and how NSCs, and the circuits to which they belong, may shape physiological function or animal behavior.

Strengths:

This study uses the FlyWire female brain connectome (Dorkenwald et al. 2023) to assign putative cell types to the 80 neurosecretory cells (NSCs) based on clustering of synaptic connectivity and morphological features. The authors then verify type assignments for selected populations by matching cluster sizes to anatomical localization and cell counts using immunohistochemistry of neuropeptide expression and markers with known co-expression.

The authors compare their findings to previous work describing the synaptic connectivity of the neurosecretory network in larval Drosophila (Huckesfeld et al., 2021), finding that there are some differences between these developmental stages. Direct comparisons between adults and larvae are made possible through direct comparison in Table 1, as well as the authors' choice to adopt similar (or equivalent) analyses and data visualizations in the present paper's figures.

The authors extract core themes in NSC synaptic connectivity that speak to their function: different NSC types are downstream of shared presynaptic outputs, suggesting the possibility of joint or coordinated activation, depending on upstream activity. NSCs receive some but not all modalities of sensory input. NSCs have more synaptic inputs than outputs, suggesting they predominantly influence neuronal and whole-body physiology through paracrine and endocrine signaling.

The authors outline synaptic pathways by which olfactory inputs may influence NSC activity and by which Corazon-releasing NSCs may regulate flight. These analyses provide a basis for future experiments, which may demonstrate whether and how such circuits shape physiological function or animal behavior.

The authors extract expression patterns of neuropeptides and receptors across NSC cell types from existing transcriptomic data (Davie et al., 2018) and present the hypothesis that NSCs could be interconnected via paracrine signaling. The authors also catalog hormone receptor expression across tissues, drawing from the Fly Cell Atlas (Li et al., 2022).

Weaknesses:

The clustering of NSCs by their presynaptic inputs and morphological features, along with corroboration with their anatomical locations, distinguished some, but not all cell types. The authors attempt to distinguish cell types using additional methodologies: immunohistochemistry (Figure 2), retrograde trans-synaptic labeling, and characterization of dense core vesicle characteristics in the FlyWire dataset (Figure 1, Supplement 1). However, these corroborating experiments often lacked experimental replicates, were not rigorously quantified, and/or were presented as singular images from individual animals or even individual cells of interest. The assignments of DH44 and DMS types remain particularly unconvincing.

The authors present connectivity diagrams for visualization of putative paracrine signaling between NSCs based on their peptide and receptor expression patterns. These transcriptomic data alone are inadequate for drawing these conclusions, and these connectivity diagrams are untested hypotheses rather than results. The authors do discuss this in the Discussion section.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript presents an ambitious and comprehensive synaptic connectome of neurosecretory cells (NSC) in the Drosophila brain, which highlights the neural circuits underlying hormonal regulation of physiology and behaviour. The authors use EM-based connectomics, retrograde tracing, and previously characterised single-cell transcriptomic data. The goal was to map the inputs to and outputs from NSCs, revealing novel interactions between sensory, motor, and neurosecretory systems. The results are of great value for the field of neuroendocrinology, with implications for understanding how hormonal signals integrate with brain function to coordinate physiology.

The manuscript is well-written and provides novel insights into the neurosecretory connectome in the adult Drosophila brain. Some, additional behavioural experiments will significantly strengthen the conclusions.

Strengths:

(1) Rigorous anatomical analysis<br /> (2) Novel insights on the wiring logic of the neurosecretory cells.

Weaknesses:

(1) Functional validation of findings would greatly improve the manuscript.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

PROTACs are heterobifunctional molecules that utilize the Ubiquitin Proteasome System to selectively degrade target proteins within cells. Upon introduction to the cells, PROTACs capture the activity of the E3 ubiquitin ligases for ubiquitination of the targeted protein, leading to its subsequent degradation by the proteasome. The main benefit of PROTAC technology is that it expands the "druggable proteome" and provides numerous possibilities for therapeutic use. However, there are also some difficulties, including the one addressed in this manuscript: identifying suitable target-E3 ligase pairs for successful degradation. Currently, only a few out of about 600 E3 ligases are used to develop PROTAC compounds, which creates the need to identify other E3 ligases that could be used in PROTAC synthesis. Testing the efficacy of PROTAC compounds has been limited to empirical tests, leading to lengthy and often failure-prone processes. This manuscript addressed the need for faster and more reliable assays to identify the compatible pairs of E3 ligases-target proteins. The authors propose using the RiPA assay, which depends on rapamycin-induced dimerization of FKBP12 protein with FRB domain. The PROTAC technology is advancing rapidly, making this manuscript both timely and essential. The RiPA assay might be useful in identifying novel E3 ligases that could be utilized in PROTAC technology. Additionally, it could be used at the initial stages of PROTAC development, looking for the best E3 ligase for the specific target.

The authors described an elegant assay that is scalable, easy-to-use and applicable to a wide range of cellular models. This method allows for the quantitative validation of the degradation efficacy of a given pair of E3 ligase-target protein, using luciferase activity as a measure. Importantly, the assay also enables the measurement of kinetics in living cells, enhancing its practicality.

Strengths:

(1) The authors have addressed the crucial needs that arise during PROTAC development. In the introduction, they nicely describe the advantages and disadvantages of the PROTAC technology and explain why such an assay is needed.

(2) The study includes essential controls in experiments (important for generating new assay), such as using the FRB vector without E3 ligase as a negative control, testing different linkers (which may influence the efficacy of the degradation), and creating and testing K-less vectors to exclude the possibility of luciferase or FKBP12 ubiquitination instead of WDR5 (the target protein). Additionally, the position of the luc in the FKBP12 vector and the position of VHL in the FRB vector are tested. Different E3 ligases are tested using previously identified target proteins, confirming the assay's utility and accuracy.

(3) The study identified a "new" E3 ligase that is suitable for PROTAC technology (FBXL).

Weaknesses:

It is not clear how feasible it would be to adapt the assay for high-throughput screens.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have addressed my previous concerns and made changes to the manuscript, resulting in a well-written paper.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Adhikari and colleagues developed a new technique, rapamycin-induced proximity assay (RiPA), to identify E3-ubiquitin (ub) ligases of a protein target, aiming at identifying additional E3 ligases that could be targeted for PROTAC generation or ligases that may degrade a protein target. The study is timely, as expanding the landscape of E3-ub ligases for developing targeted degraders is a primary direction in the field.

Strengths:

(1) The study's strength lies in its practical application of the FRB:FKBP12 system. This system is used to identify E3-ub ligases that would degrade a target of interest, as evidenced by the reduction in luminescence upon the addition of rapamycin. This approach effectively mimics the potential action of a PROTAC.

Weaknesses:

(1) While the technique shows promise, its application in a discovery setting, particularly for high-throughput or unbiased E3-ub ligase identification, may pose challenges. The authors now discuss these potential difficulties providing a more comprehensive understanding of RiPA's limitations.

(2) While RiPA will help identify E3 ligases, PROTAC design would still be empirical. The authors provide some discussion of this limitation.

Comments on revisions:

I thank the authors for addressing my prior concerns. I would recommend that individual replicate values are plotted in all the mean -/+ s.d or sem graphs.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The study investigates light chains (LCs) using three distinct approaches, with a focus on identifying a conformational fingerprint to differentiate amyloidogenic light chains from multiple myeloma light chains. The study's major contribution is the identification of a low-populated "H state," which the authors propose as a unique marker for AL-LCs. While this finding is promising, the review highlights several strengths and weaknesses. Strengths include the valuable contribution of identifying the H state and the use of multiple approaches, which provide a comprehensive understanding of LC structural dynamics. However, the study suffers from weaknesses, particularly in the interpretation of SAXS data, lack of clarity in presentation, and methodological inconsistencies. Critical concerns include high error margins between SAXS profiles and MD fits, unclear validation of oligomeric species in SAXS measurements, and insufficient quantitative cross-validation between experimental (HDX) and computational data (MD). This reviewer calls for major revisions including clearer definitions, improved methodology, and additional validation, to strengthen the conclusions.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This well-written manuscript addresses an important but recalcitrant problem - the molecular mechanism of protein misfolding in Ig light chain (LC) amyloidosis (AL), a major life-threatening form of systemic human amyloidosis. The authors use expertly recorded and analyzed small-angle X-ray scattering (SAXS) data as a restraint for molecular dynamics simulations (called M&M) and to explore six patient-based LC proteins. The authors report that a highly populated "H-state" determined computationally, wherein the two domains in an LC molecule acquire a straight rather than bent conformation, is what distinguishes AL from non-AL LCs. They then use H-D exchange mass spectrometry to verify this conclusion. If confirmed, this is a novel and interesting finding with potentially important translational implications.

Strengths:

Expertly recorded and analyzed SAXS data combined with clever M&M simulations lead to a novel and interesting conclusion.

Regardless of whether or not the CL-CL domain interface is destabilized in AL LCs explored in this (Figure 6) and other studies, stabilization of this interface is an excellent idea that may help protect at least a subset of AL LCs from misfolding in amyloid. This idea increases the potential impact of this interesting study.

Weaknesses:

The HDX analysis could be strengthened.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This study identifies confirmational fingerprints of amylodogenic light chains, that set them apart from the non-amylodogenic ones.

Strengths:

The research employs a comprehensive combination of structural and dynamic analysis techniques, providing evidence that conformational dynamics at VL-CL interface and structural expansion are distinguished features of amylodogenic LCs.

Weaknesses:

The sample size is limited, which may affect the generalizability of the findings. Additionally, the study could benefit from deeper analysis of specific mutations driving this unique conformation to further strengthen therapeutic relevance.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This study investigated the heterogeneous responses to Mycobacterium tuberculosis (Mtb) in 19 wild-derived inbred mouse strains collected from various geographic locations. The goal of this study is to identify novel mechanisms that regulate host susceptibility to Mtb infection. Using the genetically resistant C57BL/6 mouse strain as the control, they successfully identified a few mouse strains that revealed higher bacterial burdens in the lung, implicating increased susceptibility in those mouse strains. Furthermore, using flow cytometry analysis, they discovered strong correlations between CFU and various immune cell types, including T cells and B cells. The higher neutrophil numbers correlated with significantly higher CFU in some of the newly identified susceptible mouse strains. Interestingly, MANB and MANC mice exhibited comparable numbers of neutrophils but showed drastically different bacterial burdens. The authors then focused on the neutrophil heterogeneity and utilized a single-cell RNA-seq approach, which led to identifying distinct neutrophil subsets in various mouse strains, including C57BL/6, MANA, MANB, and MANC. Pathway analysis on neutrophils in susceptible MANC strain revealed a highly activated and glycolytic phenotype, implicating a possible mechanism that may contribute to the susceptible phenotype. Lastly, the authors found that a small group of neutrophil-specific genes are expressed across many other cell types in the MANC strain.

Strengths:

This manuscript has many strengths.

(1) Utilizing and characterizing novel mouse strains that complement the current widely used mouse models in the field of TB. Many of those mouse strains will be novel tools for studying host responses to Mtb infection.

(2) The study revealed very unique biology of neutrophils during Mtb infection. It has been well-established that high numbers of neutrophils correlate with high bacterial burden in mice. However, this work uncovered that some mouse strains could be resistant to infection even with high numbers of neutrophils in the lung, indicating the diverse functions of neutrophils. This information is important.

Weaknesses:

The weaknesses of the manuscript are that the work is relatively descriptive. It is unclear whether the neutrophil subsets are indeed functionally different. While single-cell RNA seq did provide some clues at transcription levels, functional and mechanistic investigations are lacking. Similarly, it is unclear how highly activated and glycolytic neutrophils in MANC strain contribute to its susceptibility.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

These studies investigate the phenotypic variability and roles of neutrophils in tuberculosis (TB) susceptibility by using a diverse collection of wild-derived inbred mouse lines. The authors aimed to identify new phenotypes during Mycobacterium tuberculosis infection by developing, infecting, and phenotyping 19 genetically diverse wild-derived inbred mouse lines originating from different geographic regions in North America and South America. The investigators achieved their main goals, which were to show that increasing genetic diversity increases the phenotypic spectrum observed in response to aerosolized M. tuberculosis, and further to provide insights into immune and/or inflammatory correlates of pulmonary TB. Briefly, investigators infected wild-derived mice with aerosolized M. tuberculosis and assessed early infection control at 21 days post-infection. The time point was specifically selected to correspond to the period after infection when acquired immunity and antigen-specific responses manifest strongly, and also early susceptibility (morbidity and mortality) due to M. tuberculosis infection has been observed in other highly susceptible wild-derived mouse strains, some Collaborative Cross inbred strains, and approximately 30% of individuals in the Diversity Outbred mouse population. Here, the investigators normalized bacterial burden across mice based on inoculum dose and determined the percent of immune cells using flow cytometry, primarily focused on macrophages, neutrophils, CD4 T cells, CD8 T cells, and B cells in the lungs. They also used single-cell RNA sequencing to identify neutrophil subpopulations and immune phenotypes, elegantly supplemented with in vitro macrophage infections and antibody depletion assays to confirm immune cell contributions to susceptibility. The main results from this study confirm that mouse strains show considerable variability to M. tuberculosis susceptibility. Authors observed that enhanced infection control correlated with higher percentages of CD4 and CD8 T cells, and B cells, but not necessarily with the percentage of interferon-gamma (IFN-γ) producing cells. High levels of neutrophils and immature neutrophils (band cells) were associated with increased susceptibility, and the mouse strain with the most neutrophils, the MANC line, exhibited a transcriptional signature indicative of a highly activated state, and containing potentially tissue-destructive, mediators that could contribute to the strain's increased susceptibility and be leveraged to understand how neutrophils drive lung tissue damage, cavitation, and granuloma necrosis in pulmonary TB.

Strengths:

The strengths are addressing a critically important consideration in the tuberculosis field - mouse model(s) of the human disease, and taking advantage of the novel phenotypes observed to determine potential mechanisms. Notable strengths include,

(1) Innovative generation and use of mouse models: Developing wild-derived inbred mice from diverse geographic locations is innovative, and this approach expands the range of phenotypic responses observed during M. tuberculosis infection. Additionally, the authors have deposited strains at The Jackson Laboratory making these valuable resources available to the scientific community.

(2) Potential for translational research: The findings have implications for human pulmonary TB, particularly the discovery of neutrophil-associated susceptibility in primary infection and/or neutrophil-mediated disease progression that could both inform the development of therapeutic targets and also be used to test the effectiveness of such therapies.

(3) Comprehensive experimental design: The investigators use many complementary approaches including in vivo M. tuberculosis infection, in vitro macrophage studies, neutrophil depletion experiments, flow cytometry, and a number of data mining, machine learning, and imaging to produce robust and comprehensive analyses of the wild-derives d strains and neutrophil subpopulations in 3 weeks after M. tuberculosis infection.

Weaknesses:

The manuscript and studies have considerable strengths and very few weaknesses. One minor consideration is that phenotyping is limited to a single limited-time point; however, this time point was carefully selected and has a strong biological rationale provided by investigators. This potential weakness does not diminish the overall findings, exciting results, or conclusions.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Guo and colleagues used a cell rounding assay to screen a library of compounds for inhibition of TcdB, an important toxin produced by Clostridioides difficile. Caffeic acid and derivatives were identified as promising leads, and caffeic acid phenethyl ester (CAPE) was further investigated.

Strengths:

Considering the high morbidity rate associated with C. difficile infections (CDI), this manuscript presents valuable research in the investigation of novel therapeutics to combat this pressing issue. Given the rising antibiotic resistance in CDI, the significance of this work is particularly noteworthy. The authors employed a robust set of methods and confirmatory tests, which strengthened the validity of the findings. The explanations provided are clear, and the scientific rationale behind the results is well-articulated. The manuscript is extremely well-written and organized. There is a clear flow in the description of the experiments performed. Also, the authors have investigated the effects of CAPE on TcdB in careful detail and reported compelling evidence that this is a meaningful and potentially useful metabolite for further studies.

Weaknesses:

This is really a manuscript about CAPE, not caffeic acid, and the title should reflect that. Also, a few details are missing from the description of the experiments. The authors should carefully revise the manuscript to ascertain that all details that could affect the interpretation of their results are presented clearly. Just as an example, the authors state in the results section that TcdB was incubated with compounds and then added to cells. Was there a wash step in between? Could compound carryover affect how the cells reacted independently from TcdB? This is just an example of how the authors should be careful with descriptions of their experimental procedures. Lastly, authors should be careful when drawing conclusions from the analysis of microbiota composition data. Ascribing causality to correlational relationships is a recurring issue in the microbiome field. Therefore, I suggest authors carefully revise the manuscript and tone down some statements about the impact of CAPE treatment on the gut microbiota.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This work is towards the development of nonantibiotic treatment for C. difficile. The authors screened a chemical library for activity against the C. difficile toxin TcdB, and found a group of compounds with antitoxin activity. Caffeic acid derivatives were highly represented within this group of antitoxin compounds, and the remaining portion of this work involves defining the mechanism of action of caffeic acid phenethyl ester (CAPE) and testing CAPE in mouse C. difficile infection model. The authors conclude CAPE attenuates C. difficile disease by limiting toxin activity and increasing microbial diversity during C. difficile infection.

Strengths/ Weaknesses:

The strategy employed by the authors is sound although not necessarily novel. A compound that can target multiple steps in the pathogenies of C. difficile would be an exciting finding. However, the data presented does not convincingly demonstrate that CAPE attenuates C. difficile disease and the mechanism of action of CAPE is not convincingly defined. The following points highlight the rationale for my evaluation.

(1) The toxin exposure in tissue culture seems brief (Figure 1). Do longer incubation times between the toxin and cells still show CAPE prevents toxin activity?

(2) The conclusion that CAPE has antitoxin activity during infection would be strengthened if the mouse was pretreated with CAPE before toxin injections (Figure 1D).

(3) CAPE does not bind to TcdB with high affinity as shown by SPR (Figure 4). A higher affinity may be necessary to inhibit TcdB during infection. The GTD binds with millimolar affinity and does not show saturable binding. Is the GTD the binding site for CAPE? Autoprocessing is also affected by CAPE indicating CAPE is binding non-GTD sites on TcdB.

(4) In the infection model, CAPE does not statistically significantly attenuate weight loss during C. difficile infection (Figure 6). I recognize that weight loss is an indirect measure of C. difficile disease but histopathology also does not show substantial disease alleviation (see below).

(5) In the infection model (Figure 6), the histopathology analysis shows substantial improvement in edema but limited improvement in cellular infiltration and epithelial damage. Histopathology is probably the most critical parameter in this model and a compound with disease-modifying effects should provide substantial improvements.

(6) The reduction in C. difficile colonization is interesting. It is unclear if this is due to antitoxin activity and/or due to CAPE modifying the gut microbiota and metabolites (Figure 6). To interpret these data, a control is needed that has CAPE treatment without C. difficile infection or infection with an atoxicogenic strain.

(7) Similar to the CAPE data, the melatonin data does not display potent antitoxin activity and the mouse model experiment shows marginal improvement in the histopathological analysis (Figure 9). Using 100 µg/ml of melatonin (~ 400 micromolar) to inactivate TcdB in cell culture seems high. Can that level be achieved in the gut?

(8) The following parameters should be considered and would aid in the interpretation of this work. Does CAPE directly affect the growth of C. difficile? Does CAPE affect the secretion of TcdB from C. difficile? Does CAPE alter the sporulation and germination of C. diffcile?

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The study is well written, and the results are solid and well demonstrated. It shows a field that can be explored for the treatment of CDI

Strengths:

The results are really good, and the CAPE shows a good and promising alternative for treating CDI. The methodology and results are well presented, with tables and figures that corroborate them. It is solid work and very promising.

Weaknesses:

Some references are too old or missing.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The present study aims to associate reproduction with age-related disease as support of the antagonistic pleiotorpy hypothesis of ageing, predominantly using Mendelian Randomization. The authors found evidence that early-life reproductive success is associated with advanced ageing.

Strengths:

Large sample size. Many analyses.

Weaknesses:

There are some errors in the methodology, that require revisions.

In particular, the main conclusions drawn by the authors refer to the Mendelian Randomization analyses. However, the authors made a few errors here that need to be reconsidered:

(1) Many of the outcomes investigated by the authors are continuous outcomes, while the authors report odds ratios. This is not correct and should be revised.

(2) Some of the odds ratios (for example the one for osteoporosis) are really small, while still reaching the level of statistical significance. After some checking, I found the GWAS data used to generate these MR estimates were processed by the program BOLT-LLM. This program is a linear mixed model program, which requires the transformation of the beta estimates to be useful for dichotomous outcomes. The authors should check the manual of BOLT-LLM and recalculate the beta estimates of the SNP-outcome associations prior to the Mendelian Randomization analyses. This should be checked for all outcomes as it doesn't apply to all.

(3) The authors should follow the MR-Strobe guidelines for presentation.

(4) The authors should report data in the text with a 95% confidence interval.

(5) The authors should consider correction for multiple testing.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors present an interesting paper where they test the antagonistic pleiotropy theory. Based on this theory they hypothesize that genetic variants associated with later onset of age at menarche and age at first birth have a positive causal effect on a multitude of health outcomes later in life, such as epigenetic aging and prevalence of chronic diseases. Using a mendelian randomization and colocalization approach, the authors show that SNPs associated with later age at menarche are associated with delayed aging measurements, such as slower epigenetic aging and reduced facial aging, and a lower risk of chronic diseases, such as type 2 diabetes and hypertension. Moreover, they identified 128 fertility-related SNPs that are associated with age-related outcomes and they identified BMI as a mediating factor for disease risk, discussing this finding in the context of evolutionary theory.

Strengths:

The major strength of this manuscript is that it addresses the antagonistic pleiotropy theory in aging. Aging theories are not frequently empirically tested although this is highly necessary. The work is therefore relevant for the aging field as well as beyond this field, as the antagonistic pleiotropy theory addresses the link between fitness (early life health and reproduction) and aging.

Points that have to be clarified/addressed:

(1) The antagonistic pleiotropy is an evolutionary theory pointing to the possibility that mutations that are beneficial for fitness (early life health and reproduction) may be detrimental later in life. As it concerns an evolutionary process and the authors focus on contemporary data from a single generation, more context is necessary on how this theory is accurately testable. For example, why and how much natural variation is there for fitness outcomes in humans? How do genetic risk score distributions of the exposure data look like? Also, how can the authors distinguish in their data between the antagonistic pleiotropy theory and the disposable soma theory, which considers a trade-off between investment in reproduction and somatic maintenance and can be used to derive similar hypotheses? There is just a very brief mention of the disposable soma theory in lines 196-198.

(2) The antagonistic pleiotropy theory, used to derive the hypothesis, does not necessarily distinguish between male and female fitness. Would the authors expect that their results extrapolate to males as well? And can they test that?

(3) There is no statistical analyses section providing the exact equations that are tested. Hence it's not clear how many tests were performed and if correction for multiple testing is necessary. It is also not clear what type of analyses have been done and why they have been done. For example in the section starting at line 47, Odds Ratios are presented, indicating that logistic regression analyses have been performed. As it's not clear how the outcomes are defined (genotype or phenotype, cross-sectional or longitudinal, etc.) it's also not clear why logistic regression analysis was used for the analyses.

(4) Mendelian Randomization is an important part of the analyses done in the manuscript. It is not clear to what extent the MR assumptions are met, how the assumptions were tested, and if/what sensitivity analyses are performed; e.g. reverse MR, biological knowledge of the studied traits, etc. Can the authors explain to what extent the genetic instruments represent their targets (applicable expression/protein levels) well?

(5) It is not clear what reference genome is used and if or what imputation panel is used. It is also not clear what QC steps are applied to the genotype data in order to construct the genetic instruments of MR.

(6) A code availability statement is missing. It is understandable that data cannot always be shared, but code should be openly accessible.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The characteristics of endometrium health are an increasing topic in women's health issues, especially in the context of endometriosis. In this respect, having access to information is hampered by the inaccessibility of the uterine tissue. The authors propose here using the menstrual fluid (easily accessible by non-invasive methods) as an access door towards getting relevant information.

Overall, the paper is divided into two parts:<br /> (1) The comparison between menstrual fluid samples and biopsies of the endometrium.<br /> 2) As a proof of concept, the authors then compared 11 controls and 7 endometriosis cases in this way, from different severity stages.

Strengths:

In Figure 1, general features of the 15 samples are presented (volume/number of cells/hematopoietic cells - cd45 labeling). The authors then used single-cell RNA-seq to characterize the different samples. Through having access to endometrium biopsies, they were able to compare the profiles obtained.

In the MF samples from the second part of the paper - aiming at comparing endometriosis and controls - one question is raised about the effect of culture. The authors compared freshly isolated and cultured tissues (ex vivo vs in vitro) by bulk RNA seq. Biases induced by the culture procedure were identified. Deconvolution was applied to strengthen this observation, with an important increase of seemingly stromal and unknown cells, especially in the unsorted cells and the CD45+ cells.

Interestingly, since the authors got successive samples from the same donor, they could evaluate the consistency of the samples and reveal indeed an overall stability of the molecular profile of the samples in a given patient.

The authors then attempted - quite originally - to characterize biomarkers in two major cell compartments that they studied - CD45- (stromal-like) and CD45+ (immune cells).

Weaknesses:

A potential problem is the justification of the a priori mix of cell types of three different phenotypes (CD45+, CD45- EPCAM+, and CD45- EPCAM-) from each patient before moving to the scRNAseq. It is not clear to me why this has been done, I guess that using directly the samples would supposedly bias the result. But in this case, why is it supposed that three categories are enough (immune cells, epithelial cells, and stromal cells)? I suppose that other markers could characterize other subtypes of the cells, and take into account the possibility of other cell types, for instance, connected to pain sensitivity, such as neuron precursor. Hence, the justification of the organized mixes should be much more detailed in my opinion.

It is a bit unclear to me when the biopsies were collected in the cycle of the donor patients.

The description of these markers that are deregulated is presented as a list, and connected with existing publications, which could rather be presented in discussion than in the results. The authors do tend to demonstrate that the Menstrual Fluid is a good proxy to analyse the endometrium health status of the women affected with endometriosis.

The identification of MTRNR2L1 seems to be a major discovery of the paper, as well as in a lesser measure HBG2, and it is a bit strange why these putative markers were not emphasized in the abstract. HBG2 was certainly identified previously in endometriosis endothelial cells but seems extremely variable from one sample to another - Geo profile (GDS3060, GDS3060 / 213515_x_at (inist.fr)).

Overall, the transcriptome analysis is a bit shallow, with no effort made to try to find potential transcription factors or miRNA that could activate/inhibit a series of modified genes; it could be relevant to identify such master genes or master regulators through bioinformatics analyses and wet-lab validations, to understand better the cascade of events.

Another issue that was overlooked is the presence of 'stem-cells' in the MF obtained. Since endometriosis is supposed to occur from the implantation of uterine stem cells, this category could be a major topic of scrutiny, in terms of quantity in the MF, as well as in terms of their specific molecular properties.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors provided further evidence that menstrual fluid (MF) can be used as a non-invasive source of endometrial tissue for studying its normal physiological state and when it is abnormal such as in endometriosis. Single-cell RNA sequencing confirmed the presence of the major cell types -blood and tissue immune cells and endometrial stromal, epithelial, and vascular cells. The major new finding was that interindividual variation for the blood immune cells was minimal between multiple MF samples from an individual. A comparison between the ex vivo MF gene profile and cultured MF showed the expected attachment and culture of stromal (and a small number of epithelial) cells, but the immune cells failed to attach. Several differentially expressed genes between controls and endometriosis were suggested as potential biomarkers of the disease, however, these were a mitochondrial pseudogene and a hemoglobin subunit, both very unlikely related to endometriosis pathogenesis.

Strengths:

The Spearman correlation analysis between the control MF gene profiles of multiple samples from the same individual and its graphic presentation provided strong evidence that there is little variation between MF samples. Together with another study which showed similar findings for endometrial stem cells and a number of proteins in MF supernatant, this important data shows MF as a promising biofluid for pathology testing.

The bioinformatic analyses conducted by bioinformatic and computational experts are a major strength of the manuscript and in particular the comparison between MF and endometrial biopsy data obtained from published scRNAseq studies. This is an important finding, particularly if comparisons included late secretory and early proliferative stage biopsy tissue which would be most similar to shedding menstrual endometrium.

The inclusion of workflows in the Figures for the various studies and the use of symbols in the various panels is very helpful for the reader.

MF cell suspensions were enriched for stromal and epithelial cells to enable a detailed bioinformatic analysis of their respective gene profiles

Weaknesses:

Two patient cohorts from different institutions were used in the study and somewhat different methods were used to extract the cellular fraction from these cohorts for further study: (1) sample dilution and differential filtration to separate blood-derived immune cells from endometrial tissue then dissociated into single cells and separated into CD45+, CD45-EpCAM+ and CD45-EpCAM- cells, and (2) gradient density separation to generate unsorted, CD45+, CD45- and putative mesenchymal stem cells (MSC) CD45-CD105+ which were also cultured. In addition, questions on pelvic pain and proven fertility would have addressed the 2 key symptoms of endometriosis.

The use of CD105 to purify MSC from MF rather than well-characterised markers of clonogenic, self-renewing, and mesodermal differentiating endometrial MSC such as CD146+PDGFRB+ or SUSD2 (both mentioned in references 22 and 23) is a weakness. The ISCT markers are not specific and are also found on stromal fibroblasts of many tissues (Phinney and Sensebe Cytotherapy 2013; Demu et al Acta Haematologica 2016).<br /> The UMAPs generated from the scRNAseq were at low resolution and more individual immune and endometrial cell types have previously been identified and reported in MF. More comparisons with these studies would also have enhanced the Discussion.

It was not always possible to work out how the data was reported in the gene expression tables (Supplementary Tables 2, 4-10) as they were not in adjusted P value order and sometimes positive log2 fold change values appeared amongst the negative log2FC. In some comparisons described, the adj P values were not significant but were described as up or down-regulated in the text.

The 2 DEGs highlighted in the endometriosis and control arm of the study appear as poor choices from many others that could have been chosen as MTRNR2L1 is a mitochondrial pseudogene and HBG2 is a hemoglobin subunit. Neither are likely indicators of endometriosis pathogenesis.

The manuscript format and organisation could be improved by reducing the discussion in the Results section and providing a more in-depth Discussion. More references need to be included in the Discussion and other work in the MF analysis field that supports - or not - the authors' findings or at least puts them into context, and should be included and referenced.

The potential to use MF as a non-invasive source of endometrial tissue for potential diagnosis is a very important avenue of research that is currently in its infancy and could have a major impact in the endometriosis research arena.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The authors attempted to replicate previous work showing that counterconditioning leads to more persistent reduction of threat responses, relative to extinction. They also aimed to examine the neural mechanisms underlying counterconditioning and extinction. They achieved both of these aims and were able to provide some additional information, such as how counterconditioning impacts memory consolidation. Having a better understanding of which neural networks are engaged during counterconditioning may provide novel pharmacological targets to aid in therapies for traumatic memories. It will be interesting to follow up by examining the impact of varying amounts of time between acquisition and counterconditioning phases, to enhance replicability to real-world therapeutic settings.

Major strengths

• This paper is very well written and attempts to comprehensively assess multiple aspects of counterconditioning and extinction processes. For instance, the addition of memory retrieval tests is not core to the primary hypotheses but provides additional mechanistic information on how episodic memory is impacted by counterconditioning. This methodical approach is commonly seen in animal literature, but less so in human studies.

• The Group x Cs-type x Phase repeated measure statistical tests with 'differentials' as outcome variables are quite complex, however, the authors have generally done a good job of teasing out significant F test findings with post hoc tests and presenting the data well visually. It is reassuring that there is a convergence between self-report data on arousal and valence and the pupil dilation response. Skin conductance is a notoriously challenging modality, so it is not too concerning that this was placed in the supplementary materials. Neural responses also occurred in logical regions with regard to reward learning.

• Strong methodology with regards to neuroimaging analysis, and physiological measures.

• The authors are very clear on documenting where there were discrepancies from their pre-registration and providing valid rationales for why.

Major Weaknesses

• The statistics showing that counterconditioning prevents differential spontaneous recovery are the weakest p values of the paper (and using one-tailed tests, although this is valid due to directions being pre-hypothesised). This may be due to a relatively small number of participants and some variability in responses. It is difficult to see how many people were included in the final PDR and neuroimaging analyses, with exclusions not clearly documented. Based on Figure 3, there are relatively small numbers in the PDR analyses (n=14 and n=12 in counterconditioning and extinction, respectively). Of these, each group had 4 people with differential PDR results in the opposing direction to the group mean. This perhaps warrants mention as the reported effects may not hold in a subgroup of individuals, which could have clinical implications.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The present study sets out to examine the impact of counterconditioning (CC) and extinction on conditioned threat responses in humans, particularly looking at neural mechanisms involved in threat memory suppression. By combining behavioral, physiological, and neuroimaging (fMRI) data, the authors aim to provide a clear picture of how CC might engage unique neural circuits and coding dynamics, potentially offering a more robust reduction in threat responses compared to traditional extinction.

Strengths:

One major strength of this work lies in its thoughtful and unique design - integrating subjective, physiological, and neuroimaging measures to capture the variouse aspects of counterconditioning (CC) in humans. Additionally, the study is centered on a well-motivated hypothesis and the findings have the potential to improve the current understanding of pathways associated with emotional and cognitive control.

The data presentation is systematic, and the results on behavioral and physiological measures fit well with the hypothesized outcomes. The neuroimaging results also provide strong support for distinct neural mechanisms underlying CC versus extinction.

Weaknesses:

Overall, this study is a well-conducted and thought-provoking investigation into counterconditioning, with strong potential to advance our understanding of threat modulation mechanisms. Two main weaknesses concern the scope and decisions regarding analysis choices. First, while the findings are solid, the topic of counterconditioning is relatively niche and may have limited appeal to a broader audience. Expanding the discussion to connect counterconditioning more explicitly to widely studied frameworks in emotional regulation or cognitive control would enhance the paper's accessibility and relevance to a wider range of readers. This broader framing could also underscore the generalizability and broader significance of the results. In addition, detailed steps in the statistical procedures and analysis parameters seem to be missing. This makes it challenging for readers to interpret the results in light of potential limitations given the data modality and/or analysis choices.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Wirz et al use neuroimaging (fMRI) to show that counterconditioning produces a longer lasting reduction in fear conditioning relative to extinction and appears to rely on the nucleus accumbens rather than the ventromedial prefrontal cortex. These important findings are supported by convincing evidence and will be of interest to researchers across multiple subfields, including neuroscientists, cognitive theory researchers, and clinicians.

In large part, the authors achieved their aims of giving a qualitative assessment of the behavioural mechanisms of counterconditioning versus extinction, as well as investigating the brain mechanisms. The results support their conclusions and give interesting insights into the psychological and neurobiological mechanisms of the processes that underlie the unlearning, or counteracting, of threat conditioning.

Strengths:

* Mostly clearly written with interesting psychological insights<br /> * Excellent behavioural design, well-controlled and tests for a number of different psychological phenomena (e.g. extinction, recovery, reinstatement, etc).<br /> * Very interesting results regarding the neural mechanisms of each process.<br /> * Good acknowledgement of the limitations of the study.

Weaknesses:

* I think the acquisition data belongs in the main figure, so the reader can discern whether or not there are directional differences prior to CC and extinction training that could account for the differences observed. This is particularly important for the valence data which appears to differ at baseline (supplemental figure 2C).<br /> * I was confused in several sections about the chronology of what was done and when. For instance, it appears that individuals went through re-extinction, but this is just called extinction in places.<br /> * I was also confused about the data in Figure 3. It appears that the CC group maintained differential pupil dilation during CC, whereas extinction participants didn't, and the authors suggest that this is indicative of the anticipation of reward. Do reward-associated cues typically cause pupil dilation? Is this a general arousal response? If so, does this mean that the CSs become equally arousing over time for the CC group whereas the opposite occurs for the extinction group (i.e. Figure 3, bottom graphs)? It is then further confusing as to why the CC group lose differential responding on the spontaneous recovery test. I'm not sure this was adequately addressed.<br /> * I am not sure that the memories tested were truly episodic<br /> * Twice as many female participants than males<br /> * No explanation as to why shocks were varied in intensity and how (psuedo-randomly?)

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this work, the authors examine the activity and function of D1 and D2 MSNs in dorsomedial striatum (DMS) during an interval timing task. In this task, animals must first nosepoke into a cued port on the left or right; if not rewarded after 6 seconds, they must switch to the other port. Thus, this task requires animals to estimate if at least 6 seconds have passed after the first nosepoke. After verifying that animals estimate the passage of 6 seconds, the authors examine striatal activity during this interval. They report that D1-MSNs tend to decrease activity, while D2-MSNs increase activity, throughout this interval. They suggest that this activity follows a drift-diffusion model, in which activity increases (or decreases) to a threshold after which a decision is made. The authors next report that optogenetically inhibiting D1 or D2 MSNs, or pharmacologically blocking D1 and D2 receptors, increased the average wait time. This suggests that both D1 and D2 neurons contribute to the estimate of time, with a decrease in their activity corresponding to a decrease in the rate of 'drift' in their drift-diffusion model. Lastly, the authors examine MSN activity while pharmacologically inhibiting D1 or D2 receptors. The authors observe most recorded MSNs neurons decrease their activity over the interval, with the rate decreasing with D1/D2 receptor inhibition.

Major strengths:

The study employs a wide range of techniques - including animal behavioral training, electrophysiology, optogenetic manipulation, pharmacological manipulations, and computational modeling. The question posed by the authors - how striatal activity contributes to interval timing - is of importance to the field and has been the focus of many studies and labs. This paper contributes to that line of work by investigating whether D1 and D2 neurons have similar activity patterns during the timed interval, as might be expected based on prior work based on striatal manipulations. However, the authors find that D1 and D2 neurons have distinct activity patterns. They then provide a decision-making model that is consistent with all results. The data within the paper is presented very clearly, and the authors have done a nice job presenting the data in a transparent manner (e.g., showing individual cells and animals). Overall, the manuscript is relatively easy to read and clear, with sufficient detail given in most places regarding the experimental paradigm or analyses used.

Major weaknesses:

The results are based on a relatively small dataset (tens of cells).

Impact:

The task and data presented by the authors are very intriguing, and there are many groups interested in how striatal activity contributes to the neural perception of time. The authors perform a wide variety of experiments and analysis to examine how DMS activity influences time perception during an interval-timing task, allowing for insight into this process.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This study found that D1-MSNs and D2-MSNs have opposing dynamics during interval timing in a mouse-optimized interval timing task. Further optogenetic and pharmacologic inhibition of either D1 or D2 MSNs increased response time. This study provides useful experimental evidence in the coding of time in striatum. However, there are some major weaknesses in this study.

(1) Regarding the data in Figure S3, The variance within each mouse was too big, the authors need to figure out and explain what caused the large variance within the same mouse, or the authors need to increase the sample size.<br /> (2) Regarding the results in Figure 3 C and D, Figure 6 H and Figure 7 D, what is the sample size? From the single data points in the figures, it seems that the authors were using the number of cells to do statistical tests and plot the figures. For example, Figure 3 C, if the authors use n= 32 D2 MSNs and n= 41D1 MSNs to do the statistical test, it could make small difference to be statistically significant. The authors should use the number of mice to do the statistical tests.<br /> (3) Regarding the results in Figure 5, what is the reason for the increase in the response times? The authors should plot the position track during intervals (0-6 s) with or without optogenetic or pharmacologic inhibition. The authors can check Figure 3, 5, and 6 in paper https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cell.2016.06.032 for reference to analyze the data.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The cognitive striatum, also known as the dorsomedial striatum, receives input from brain regions involved in high-level cognition and plays a crucial role in processing cognitive information. However, despite its importance, the extent to which different projection pathways of the striatum contribute to this information processing remains unclear. In this paper, Bruce et al. conducted a study using various causal and correlational techniques to investigate how these pathways collectively contribute to interval timing in mice. Their results were consistent with previous research, showing that the direct and indirect striatal pathways perform opposing roles in processing elapsed time. Based on their findings, the authors proposed a revised computational model in which two separate accumulators track evidence for elapsed time in opposing directions. These results have significant implications for understanding the neural mechanisms underlying cognitive impairment in neurological and psychiatric disorders, as disruptions in the balance between direct and indirect pathway activity are commonly observed in such conditions.

Strengths:

The authors employed a well-established approach to study interval timing and employed optogenetic tagging to observe the behavior of specific cell types in the striatum. Additionally, the authors utilized two complementary techniques to assess the impact of manipulating the activity of these pathways on behavior. Finally, the authors utilized their experimental findings to enhance the theoretical comprehension of interval timing using a computational model.

Weaknesses:

The behavioral task used in this study is best suited for investigating elapsed time perception rather than interval timing. Timing bisection tasks are often employed to study interval timing in humans and animals. Given the systemic delivery of pharmacological interventions, it is difficult to conclude that the effects are specific to the dorsomedial striatum. Future studies should use the local infusion of drugs into the dorsomedial striatum.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Mitochondria are essential organelles consisting in mammalian cells of about 1500 different proteins. Most of those are synthesized in the cytosol as precursor proteins, imported into mitochondria, and sorted into one of the four sub-mitochondrial compartments. The TIM23 complex, which is embedded in the mitochondrial inner membrane, facilitates the import of proteins that harbor Mitochondrial Targeting Sequence (MTS) at their N-terminus. Such proteins are sorted mainly to the mitochondrial matrix while some sub-groups are destined also to the inner membrane or the intermembrane space. TIMM50 (Tim50 in yeast) is an essential component of the TIM23 complex and mutations in this protein were reported to cause several diseases.

Summary:

In the current study, the authors analyzed the impact of TIMM50 mutations on the mitochondrial proteome in both patients' cells and mouse neurons. They provide compelling evidence for several surprising and highly interesting observations: (i) TIMM50 mutations affect the steady-state levels of only a portion of the putative TIMM50 substrates, (ii) such mutations result in increased electrical activity in mice neurons and in reduced levels of some potassium ion channels in the plasma membrane. These findings shed new light on mitochondrial biogenesis in mammalian cells and hint at an unexpected link between mitochondria and ion channels at the plasma membrane.

Strengths:

The authors used both cells from patients and neurons from mice to investigate the impact of mutations in TIMM50 on mitochondrial proteome and function.

Comments on revisions:

The authors addressed all my concerns regarding the original submission.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Mitochondria import hundreds of precursor proteins from the cytosol. The TOM and TIM23 complexes facilitate the import on the matrix-targeting pathway of mitochondria. In yeast, Tim50 is a critical and essential subunit of the TIM23 complex that mediates the transition of precursors from the outer to the inner membrane. The human Tim50 homolog TIMM50 is highly similar in structure and a comparable function of Tim50 and TIMM50 was proven by several biochemical and genetic studies in the past.

In this study, the authors characterize human cells which express lower levels or mutated versions of TIMM50. They found that in these TIMM50-depletion cells, the levels of other TIM23 core subunits are also diminished but many mitochondrial proteins are unaffected. Moreover, they observed alterations in the electrical activity and the levels of potassium channels in neuronal cells of TIMM50-deficient mice. They propose that these changes explain the pathology of patients who often suffer from epilepsy.

Strengths:

The paper is written by experts in the field, and it is very clear. The experiments are of high quality and sufficiently well-controlled. The study is interesting for a broad readership.

Weaknesses:

The authors show that even upon low levels of Tim50, mitochondrial proteins are not considerably depleted. However, it remains somewhat unclear why this is. TIMM50 and the TIM23 complex might not be rate-limiting for the biogenesis of mitochondrial proteins. Alternatively, the import defect is compensated indirectly, for example by a reduced growth of cells. It will be interesting to study the physiological consequences of TIMM50-depletion in more depth in the future.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary

The authors address three primary questions:<br /> (1) how FGF13 variants confer seizure susceptibility,<br /> (2) the specific cell types involved, and<br /> (3) the underlying mechanisms, particularly regarding Nav dysfunction.

They use different Cre drivers to generate cell type-specific knockouts (KOs). First, using Nestin-Cre to create a whole-brain Fgf13 KO, they observed spontaneous seizures and premature death. While KO of Fgf13 in excitatory neurons does not lead to spontaneous seizures, KO in inhibitory neurons recapitulates the seizures and premature death observed in the Nestin-Cre KO. They further narrow down the critical cell type to MGE-derived interneurons (INs), demonstrating that MGE-neuron-specific KO partially reproduces the observed phenotypes. "All interneuron" KOs exhibit deficits in synaptic transmission and interneuron excitability, not seen in excitatory neuron-specific KOs. Finally, they rescue the defects in the interneuron-specific KO by expressing specific Fgf13 isoforms. This is an elegant and important study adding to our knowledge of mechanisms that contribute to seizures.

Strengths<br /> • The study provides much-needed cell type-specific KO models.<br /> • The authors use appropriate Cre lines and characterize the phenotypes of the different KOs.<br /> • The metabolomic analysis complements the rest of the data effectively.<br /> • The study confirms and extends previous research using improved approaches (KO lines vs. in vitro KD or antibody infusion).<br /> • The methods and analyses are robust and well-executed.

Weaknesses

• One weakness lies in the use of the Nkx2.1 line (instead of Nkx2.1CreER) in the paper. As a result, some answers to key questions are incomplete. For instance, it remains unclear whether the observed effects are due to Chandelier cells or NGFCs, potentially both MGE and CGE derived, explaining why Nkx2.1 alone does not fully replicate the overall inhibitory KO. Using Nkx2.1CreER could have helped address the cell specificity. With the Nkx2.1 line used in the paper, the answer is partial.<br /> • While the mechanism behind the reduced inhibitory drive in the IN-specific KO is suggested to be presynaptic, the chosen method does not allow them to exactly identify the mechanisms (spontaneous vs mEPSC/mIPSC), and whether it is a loss of inhibitory synapses (potentially axo-axonic) or release probability.

General Assessment

The general conclusions of this paper are supported by data. As it is, the claim that "these results enhance our understanding of the molecular mechanisms that drive the pathogenesis of Fgf13-related seizures" is partially supported. A more cautious term may be more appropriate, as the study shows the mechanism is not Nav-mediated and suggests alternative mechanisms without unambiguously identifying them. The conclusion that the findings "expand our understanding of FGF13 functions in different neuron subsets" is supported, although somewhat overstated, as the work is not conclusive about the exact neuron subtypes. However, it does indeed show differential functions for specific neuronal classes, which is a significant result.

Impact and Utility

This paper is undoubtedly valuable. Understanding that excitatory neurons are not the primary contributors to the observed phenotypes is crucial. The finding that the effects are not MGE-unique is also important. This work provides a solid foundation for further research and will be a useful resource for future studies.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors aimed to determine the mechanism by which seizures emerge in Developmental and Epileptic Encephalopathies caused by variants in the gene FGF13. Loss of FGF13 in excitatory neurons had no effect on seizure phenotype as compared to loss of FGF13 in GABAergic interneurons, which in contrast caused a dramatic proseizure phenotype and early death in these animals. They were able to show that Fgf13 ablation and consequent loss of FGF13-S and FGF13-VY reduced overall inhibitory input from Fgf13-expressing interneurons onto hippocampal pyramidal neurons. This was shown to occur not via disruption to voltage gated sodium channels but rather by reducing potassium currents and action potential repolarisation in these interneurons.

Strengths:

The authors employed multiple well validated, novel mouse lines with FGF13 knocked out in specific cell types including all neurons, all excitatory cells, all GABAergic interneurons, or a subset of MGE-derived interneurons, including axo-axonic chandelier cells. The phenotypes of each of these four mouse lines were carefully characterised to reveal clear differences with the most fundamental being that Interneuron-targeted deletion of FGF13 led to perinatal mortality associated with extensive seizures and impaired the hippocampal inhibitory/excitatory balance while deletion of FGF13 in excitatory neurons caused no detectable seizures and no survival deficits.<br /> The authors made excellent use of western blotting and in situ hybridisation of the different FGF13 isoforms to determine which isoforms are expressed in which cell types, with FGF3-S predominantly in excitatory neurons and FGF13-VY and FGF13-V predominantly in GABAergic neurons.

The authors performed highly detailed electrophysiological analysis of excitatory neurons and GABAergic interneurons with FGF13 deficits using whole-cell patch clamp. This enabled them to show that FGF13 removal did not affect voltage-gated sodium channels in interneurons, but rather reduced the action of potassium channels, with the resultant effect of making it more likely that interneurons enter depolarisation block. These findings were strengthened by the demonstration that viral re-expression of different Fgf13 splice isoforms could partially rescue deficits in interneuron action potential output and restore K+ channel current size.

Additionally, the discussion was nuanced, and demonstrated how the current findings resolved previous apparent contradictions in the field involving the function of FGF13.

These findings will have a significant impact on our understanding of how FGF13 causes seizures and death in DEEs, and the action of different FGF13 isoforms within different neuronal cell types, particularly GABAergic interneurons.

Comments on revisions:

I appreciate the author's responses to the previous round of reviews. All my comments have been addressed. Congratulations on an excellent body of work.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper investigates the neural population activity patterns of the medial frontal cortex in rats performing a nose poking timing task using in vivo calcium imaging. The results showed neurons that were active at the beginning and end of the nose poking and neurons that formed sequential patterns of activation that covaried with the timed interval during nose poking on a trial-by-trial basis. The former were not stable across sessions, while the latter tended to remain stable over weeks. The analysis of incorrect trials suggests the shorter non-rewarded intervals were due to errors in the scaling of the sequential pattern of activity.

Strengths:

This study measured stable signals using in vivo calcium imaging during experimental sessions that were separated by many days in animals performing a nose poking timing task. The correlation analysis on the activation profile to separate the cells in the three groups was effective and the functional dissociation between beginning and end, and duration cells was revealing. The analysis on the stability of decoding of both the nose poking state and poking time was very informative. Hence, this study dissected a neural population that formed sequential patterns of activation that encoded timed intervals.

Weaknesses:

It is not clear whether animals had enough simultaneously recorded cells to perform the analyzes of Figures 2-4. In fact, rat 3 had 18 responsive neurons which probably is not enough to get robust neural sequences for the trial-by-trial analysis and the correct and incorrect trial analysis. In addition, the analysis of behavioral errors could be improved. The analysis in Figure 4A could be replaced by a detailed analysis on the speed, and the geometry of neural population trajectories for correct and incorrect trials. In the case of Figure 4G is not clear why the density of errors formed two clusters instead of having a linear relation with the produce duration. I would be recommendable to compute the scaling factor on neuronal population trajectories and single cell activity or the computation of the center of mass to test the type III errors.

Due to the slow time resolution of calcium imaging, it is difficult to perform robust analysis on ramping activity. Therefore, I recommend downplaying the conclusion that: "Together, our data suggest that sequential activity might be a more relevant coding regime than the ramping activity in representing time under physiological conditions."

Comments on revisions:

The authors responded properly to my initial comments. However, I have three additional recommendations for the reviewed manuscript.

First, the paper urgently needs proofreading by a professional English editor. Second, Figure 4 must be divided in 2, it has too many panels and the resolution of the figure is low. Finally, please consider that what is called scaling factor in Figure 4G should be called something like neural sequence position index. A scaling factor in the timing literature implies that the pattern of activation of a cell contracts or expands according to the timed interval.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In this manuscript, Li and collaborators set out to investigate the neuronal mechanisms underlying "subjective time estimation" in rats. For this purpose, they conducted calcium imaging in the prefrontal cortex of water-restricted rats that were required to perform an action (nose-poking) for a short duration to obtain drops of water. The authors provided evidence that animals progressively improved in performing their task. They subsequently analyzed the calcium imaging activity of neurons and identify start, duration, and stop cells associated with the nose poke. Specifically, they focused on duration cells and demonstrated that these cells served as a good proxy for timing on a trial-by-trial basis, scaling their pattern of actvity in accordance with changes in behavioral performance. In summary, as stated in the title, the authors claim to provide mechanistic insights into subjective time estimation in rats, a function they deem important for various cognitive conditions.

This study aligns with a wide range of studies in system neuroscience that presume that rodents solve timing tasks through an explicit internal estimation of duration, underpinned by neuronal representations of time. Within this framework, the authors performed complex and challenging experiments, along with advanced data analysis, which undoubtedly merits acknowledgement. However, the question of time perception is a challenging one, and caution should be exercised when applying abstract ideas derived from human cognition to animals. Studying so-called time perception in rats has significant shortcomings because, whether acknowledged or not, rats do not passively estimate time in their heads. They are constantly in motion. Moreover, rats do not perform the task for the sake of estimating time but to obtain their rewards are they water restricted. Their behavior will therefore reflect their motivation and urgency to obtain rewards. Unfortunately, it appears that the authors are not aware of these shortcomings. These alternative processes (motivation, sensorimotor dynamics) that occur during task performance are likely to influence neuronal activity. Consequently, my review will be rather critical. It is not however intended to be dismissive. I acknowledge that the authors may have been influenced by numerous published studies that already draw similar conclusions. Unfortunately, all the data presented in this study can be explained without invoking the concept of time estimation. Therefore, I hope the authors will find my comments constructive and understand that as scientists, we cannot ignore alternative interpretations, even if they conflict with our a priori philosophical stance (e.g., duration can be explicitly estimated by reading neuronal representation of time) and anthropomorphic assumptions (e.g., rats estimate time as humans do). While space is limited in a review, if the authors are interested, they can refer to a lengthy review I recently published on this topic, which demonstrates that my criticism is supported by a wide range of timing experiments across species (Robbe, 2023). In addition to this major conceptual issue that casts doubt on most of the conclusions of the study, there are also several major statistical issues.

Main Concerns

(1) The authors used a task in which rats must poke for a minimal amount of time (300 ms and then 1500 ms) to be able to obtain a drop of water delivered a few centimeters right below the nosepoke. They claim that their task is a time estimation task. However, they forget that they work with thirsty rats that are eager to get water sooner than later (there is a reason why they start by a short duration!). This task is mainly probing the animals ability to wait (that is impulse control) rather than time estimation per se. Second, the task does not require to estimate precise time because there appear to be no penalties when the nosepokes are too short or when they exceed. So it will be unclear if the variation in nosepoke reflects motivational changes rather than time estimation changes. The fact that this behavioral task is a poor assay for time estimation and rather reflects impulse control is shown by the tendency of animals to perform nose-pokes that are too short, the very slow improvement in their performance (Figure 1, with most of the mice making short responses), and the huge variability. Not only do the behavioral data not support the claim of the authors in terms of what the animals are actually doing (estimating time), but this also completely annihilates the interpretation of the Ca++ imaging data, which can be explained by motivational factors (changes in neuronal activity occurring while the animals nose poke may reflect a growing sens of urgency to check if water is available).

(2) A second issue is that the authors seem to assume that rats are perfectly immobile and perform like some kind of robots that would initiate nose pokes, maintain them, and remove them in a very discretized manner. However, in this kind of task, rats are constantly moving from the reward magazine to the nose poke. They also move while nose-poking (either their body or their mouth), and when they come out of the nose poke, they immediately move toward the reward spout. Thus, there is a continuous stream of movements, including fidgeting, that will covary with timing. Numerous studies have shown that sensorimotor dynamics influence neural activity, even in the prefrontal cortex. Therefore, the authors cannot rule out that what the records reflect are movements (and the scaling of movement) rather than underlying processes of time estimation (some kind of timer). Concretely, start cells could represent the ending of the movement going from the water spout to the nosepoke, and end cells could be neurons that initiate (if one can really isolate any initiation, which I doubt) the movement from the nosepoke to the water spout. Duration cells could reflect fidgeting or orofacial movements combined with an increasing urgency to leave the nose pokes.

(3) The statistics should be rethought for both the behavioral and neuronal data. They should be conducted separately for all the rats, as there is likely interindividual variability in the impulsivity of the animals.

(4) The fact that neuronal activity reflects an integration of movement and motivational factors rather than some abstract timing appears to be well compatible with the analysis conducted on the error trials (Figure 4), considering that the sensorimotor and motivational dynamics will rescale with the durations of the nose poke.

(5) The authors should mention upfront in the main text (result section) the temporal resolution allowed by their Ca+ probe and discuss whether it is fast enough in regard of behavioral dynamics occurring in the task.

Comments on the revised version

I have read the revised version of the manuscript and the rebuttal letter. My major concern was that the task used is not a time estimation task but primarily taps into impulse control and that animals are not immobile during the nose-poking epoch. I provided factual evidence for this (the animal's timing performance is poor and, on average, animals struggle to wait long enough), and I pointed to a review that discusses the results of many studies congruent with the importance of movement/motivation, not only in constraining the timing of reward-oriented actions during so-called time estimation tasks but also in powerfully modulating neuronal activity.

The authors' responses to my comments are puzzling and unconvincing. First, on the one hand, they acknowledge in their rebuttal letter the difficulty of demonstrating a neuronal representation of explicit internal estimation of time. Then, they seem to imply that this issue is beyond the scope of their study and focus in the rebuttal on whether the neuronal activity they report shows signs of being sensitive to movement and motivation, which they claim is independent of movement and motivation. This leads the authors to make no major changes in their manuscript. Their title, abstract, introduction, and discussion are largely unchanged and do not reflect the possibility that there are major confounding factors in so-called time estimation (rodents are not disembodied passive information processors) that may well explain some of the neuronal patterns. Evidently, the dismissive treatment by the authors is not satisfying. I will briefly restate my comments and reply to their responses and their new figure, which not only is unconvincing but raises new questions.

My comments were primarily focused on the behavioral task. The authors replied: "Studying the neural representation of any internal state may suffer from the same ambiguity [by ambiguity they meant that it is difficult to know if animals are explicitly estimating time]. With all due respect, however, we would like to limit our response to the scope of our results. According to the reviewer, two alternative interpretations of the task-related sequential activity exist." The authors imply that my comments are beyond the scope of their study. That is not true. My comments were targeted at the behavior of the animals, behavior they rely on to title their study: "Stable sequential dynamics in prefrontal cortex represents a subjective estimation of time." When I question whether the task and behavioral data presented are congruent with "subjective estimation of time," my comments are not beyond the scope of the study-they directly tackle the main point of the authors. Other researchers will read the title and abstract of this manuscript and conclude: "Here is a paper that provides evidence of a mechanism for animals estimating duration internally (because subjective time perception is assumed to be different from using clocks)." Still, there is a large body of literature showing that the behavior of animals in such tasks can be entirely explained without invoking subjective time perception and internal representation. How can the authors acknowledge that they can't be sure that mice are estimating time and then have such an affirmative title and abstract?

In my opinion, science is not just about forcing ideas (often reflecting philosophical preconceptions) on data and dismissing those who disagree. It is about discussing alternative possibilities fairly and being humble. In their revised version, I see no effort by the authors to investigate the importance of movement and motivation during their task or seriously engage with this idea. It's much easier to dismiss my comments as being beyond the scope of their results. According to the authors, it seems that movements and motivations play no role in the task. Still, the animals are water-restricted, and during the task, they will display decreased motivation (due to increased satiety), and their history of rewarded vs. non-rewarded trials will affect their behavior. This is one of the most robust effects seen across all behavioral studies. Moreover, the animals are constantly moving. Maybe the authors used a special breed of mice that behave like some kind of robots? I acknowledge that this is not easy to investigate, but if the authors did not use high-quality video recording or an experimental paradigm that allows disentangling motivational confounds, then they should refrain from using big words such as subjective time estimation and discuss alternative representations by acknowledging the studies that do find that movement and motivation are present during reward-based timing tasks and do in fact modulate neuronal activity, even in associative brain regions.

To sustain their claim that what they reported is movement-independent, the authors provided a supplementary figure in which they correlated neuronal activity and head movement tracked using DeepLabCut. I have to say that I was particularly surprised by this figure. First, in the original manuscript, there was absolutely no mention of video recording. Now it appears in the methods section, but the description is very short. There is no information on how these video recordings were made. The quality of the images provided in Figure S2 is far from reassuring. It is unclear whether the temporal and spatial resolution would be good enough to make meaningful correlations. Fast head/orofacial movements that occur during nose-poking can be on the order of 20 Hz. To be tracked, this would require at least a 40 Hz sampling rate. But no sampling information is provided. The authors should explain how they synchronized behavioral and neuronal data acquisition. Could the authors share behavioral videos of the 5 sessions shown in Figure S2 so we can judge the behavior of the animals, the quality of the video, and the possibility of making correlations?

Figure S2A-F: I am not sure why the authors correlated nose-poking duration (time estimation) and the duration between upper and lower nose-pokes (reward-oriented movement). It is not relevant to the issue I raised. Without any information about video acquisition frame rate, the y-axis legend (frame) is not very informative. Still, in Figure S2A-F, Rat 5 shows a clear increase in nose-poke duration, which is congruent with decreased impulsivity. Is the time coding different in this rat compared to other rats? There are some similar trends in other animals (Rat 1 and maybe Rat 3), but what is surprising is the huge variability (big downward deflections in the nose-poke duration). I would not be surprised if those deflections occurred after a long pause in activity. Could the authors plot trial time instead of trial number? How do the authors explain such a huge deflection if the animals are estimating time?

Regarding Figure S2H: I don't see how it addresses my concern. My concern is that some of the Ca activity recorded during nose-poking reflects head movements. The authors need to show if they can detect head movement during nose-poking. Aligning the Ca data relative to head movement should give the same result as when aligning the data relative to the time at which the animals pull out of the upper nose-poke.

Minor comments:

In their introduction, the authors wrote: "While these findings [correlates of time perception] provide strong evidence for a neural mechanism of time coding in the brain, true causal evidence at single-cell resolution remains beyond reach due to technical limitations. Although inhibiting certain brain regions (such as medial prefrontal cortex, mPFC,22) led to disruption in the performance of the timing task, it is difficult to attribute the effect specifically to the ramping or sequential activity patterns seen in those regions as other processes may be involved. Lacking direct experimental evidence, one potential way of testing the causal involvement of 'time codes' in time estimation function is to examine their correlation at a finer resolution."<br /> This statement is inaccurate at two levels. First, very good causal evidence has been obtained on this topic (see Monteiro et al., 2023, Nature Neuroscience), and see my News & Views on the strengths and weaknesses of this paper. Second, their proposal is inaccurate. Looking at a finer correlation will still be a correlative approach, and the authors will not be able to disentangle motor/motivation confounds.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary

Lines et al investigate the integration of sensory-evoked calcium signals in astrocytes of the primary somatosensory cortex in anesthetized mice. More precisely, their goal is to better characterize the mechanisms that govern the emergence of whole-cell events in astrocytes, here referred to as calcium surges. As a single astrocyte communicates with hundreds of thousands of synapses simultaneously, understanding the spatial and temporal integration of calcium signals in astrocytes and the mechanisms governing these phenomena is of tremendous importance to deepen our understanding of signal processing in the central nervous system. In line with previous reports in the field, the authors find that most signals originate in the arborization of astrocytes, occasionally leading to somatic and whole-cell events. On average, the latter occur following domain activity closer to the soma, suggesting a centripetal propagation of signals leading to somatic events. Moreover, they observe that the distance from the soma to active domains increases with time after somatic events, suggesting a potential centrifugal propagation of signals post-somatic activity. The results suggest that most calcium surges depend on the expression of IP3R2, the main calcium channel in astrocytes, located at the membrane of the endoplasmic reticulum. Finally, they report a correlation between the percentage of active domains in the astrocyte "arbor", the emergence of a somatic event, and the frequency of slow inward currents from neighboring neurons. The main claim of this manuscript is that there would be a spatial threshold inherent to astrocytes of ~23% of domain activation above which a calcium surge is observed. Although the study provides data and concepts that are important for the glia field, the conclusions seem a little too assertive and general with respect to what can be deduced from the data and methods used.

Strengths

The major strength of this study is the experimental approach that allowed the authors to obtain numerous and informative calcium recordings in vivo in the somatosensory cortex in mice in response to sensory stimuli as well as in situ. Notably, they developed an interesting approach to modulate the percentage of active domains in the astrocyte arborization by varying the intensity of peripheral stimulation (its amplitude, frequency, or duration). The question investigated is important as the mechanisms governing signal integration in astrocytes and its effect on neighboring cells are poorly understood.

Weaknesses

The major weakness of the manuscript is the method used to analyze and quantify calcium activity, which mostly relies on the analysis of averaged data and overlooks the variability of the signals measured. As a result, the main claims from the manuscript seem to be incompletely supported by the data.

Although the revised version includes more discussion on the experiments that could be done to extend the results from this study, more discussion would be needed to clarify the limitations on what can be deduced from the proposed experimental and analytical design. Notably, the analysis pipeline seems biased by the assumption of the existence of a spatial threshold dictating the emergence of global calcium events in astrocytes. Although there is a clear linear correlation between the percentage of active somas and the percentage of active domains in the arborization (Figure 2 panel F), concluding on the existence of an inherent threshold of domain activity is not completely supported by the data (see e.g. Figure 2 panel F or Figure 4 panel E). It would probably be more accurate to report that most somatic events occur when the percentage of arbor domains being active is above 21-24% (95% confidence interval of the reported threshold). Thus, some of the conclusions from the manuscript, such as p.14 l.34-35 " spatial threshold of domains that needs to be reached in order to lead to soma activation", seem a bit too assertive as some astrocytes did display soma activation with a much smaller percentage of active domains or on the contrary, no somatic event despite domain activity way above the threshold. Similarly, as Figure 6 demonstrates a strong effect of IP3R2 knock-out on somatic activation but reports a non-zero probability of soma activity in IP3R2 -/- mice (panel F), the conclusion that IP3R2 are necessary to trigger an astrocytic calcium surge seems a bit too strong. Finally, the results reported in Figure 7 demonstrate the existence of a strong correlation between SICs, the percentage of active astrocyte domains on, and somatic activation, so that the conclusion "These results indicate that spatial threshold of the astrocyte calcium surge has a functional impact on gliotransmission" (l.4&-48 page 13) also seems a bit too assertive.

Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

Summary:

The study aims to elucidate the spatial dynamics of subcellular astrocytic calcium signaling. Specifically, they elucidate how subdomain activity above a certain spatial threshold (~23% of domains being active) heralds a calcium surge that also affects the astrocytic soma. Moreover, they demonstrate that processes on average are included earlier than the soma and that IP3R2 is necessary for calcium surges to occur. Finally, they associate calcium surges with slow inward currents.

The revised manuscript is improved compared to the first iteration. While some concerns have been addressed, my main critique pertaining to ROI approach/sampled area, statistical analyses and anesthesia are in my view still important caveats of the study that I think should have been even more clearly addressed in the manuscript.

Strengths:<br /> The study addresses an interesting topic that is only partially understood. The study uses multiple methods including in vivo two-photon microscopy, acute brain slices, electrophysiology, pharmacology, and knockout models. The conclusions are strengthened by the same findings in both in vivo anesthetized mice and in brain slices.

Weaknesses:

The method that has been used to quantify astrocytic calcium signals only analyzes what seems to be a small proportion of the total astrocytic domain on the example micrographs, where a structure is visible in the SR101 channel (see for instance Reeves et al. J. Neurosci. 2011, demonstrating to what extent SR101 outlines an astrocyte). This would potentially heavily bias the results: from the example illustrations presented it is clear that the calcium increases in what is putatively the same astrocyte goes well beyond what is outlined with automatically placed small ROIs. The smallest astrocytic processes are an order of magnitude smaller than the resolution of optical imaging and would not be outlined by either SR101 or with the segmentation method judged by the ROIs presented in the figures. Completely ignoring these very large parts of the spatial domain of an astrocyte, in particular when making claims about a spatial threshold, seems inappropriate. Several recent methods published use pixel-by-pixel event-based approaches to define calcium signals. The data should have been analyzed using such a method within a complete astrocyte spatial domain in addition to the analyses presented. Also, the authors do not discuss how two-dimensional sampling of calcium signals from an astrocyte that has processes in three dimensions (see Bindocci et al, Science 2017) may affect the results: if subdomain activation is not homogeneously distributed in the three-dimensional space within the astrocyte territory, the assumptions and findings between a correlation between subdomain activation and somatic activation may be affected.

Authors reply: In order to reduce noise from individual pixels, we chose to segment astrocyte arborizations into domains of several pixels. As pointed out previously, including pixels outside of the SR101-positive territory runs the risk of including a pixel that may be from a neighboring cell or mostly comprised of extracellular space, and we chose the conservative approach to avoid this source of error. We agree that the results have limitations from being acquired in 2D instead of 3D, but it is likely to assume the 3D astrocyte is homogeneously distributed and that the 2D plane is representative of the whole astrocyte. Indeed, no dimensional effects were reported in Bindocci et al, Science 2017. We have included a paragraph in the discussion to address this limitation in our study on P15, L23-27:<br /> "The investigation of the spatial threshold could be improved in the future in a number of ways. One being the use of state-of-the-art imaging in 3D(Bindocci et al., 2017). While the original publication using 3D imaging to study astrocyte physiology does not necessarily imply that there would be different calcium dynamics in one axis over another, the three-dimensional examination of the spatial threshold could refine the findings we present here.

Comments on revisions: It is good that 3D imaging aspects are mentioned as a limitation, and I agree that Bindocci et al. do not necessarily suggest that results in this manuscript would have been different if also the third spatial dimension was included in the analyses. However, the way I see it, the added analyses and text changes throughtout still do not adequately address my concern pertaining to basing a spatial threshold on a fraction of the astrocyte territory.

The study uses a heaviside step function to define a spatial 'threshold' for somata either being included or not in a calcium signal. However, Fig 4E and 5D showing how the method separates the signal provide little understanding for the reader. The most informative figure that could support the main finding of the study, namely a ~23% spatial threshold for astrocyte calcium surges reaching the soma, is Fig. 4G, showing the relationship between the percentage of arborizations active and the soma calcium signal. A similar plot should have been presented in Fig 5 as well. Looking at this distribution, though, it is not clear why ~23% would be a clear threshold to separate soma involvement, one can only speculate how the threshold for a soma event would influence this number. Even if the analyses in Fig. 4H and the fact that the same threshold appears in two experimental paradigms strengthen the case, the results would have been more convincing if several types of statistical modeling describing the continuous distribution of values presented in Fig. 4E (in addition to the heaviside step function) were presented.

Authors reply: We agree with the reviewer and have added to the paper a discussion for our justification on the use of the Heaviside step function, and have included this in the methods section. We chose the Heaviside step function to represent the on/off situation that we observed in the data that suggested a threshold in the biology. We agree with the reviewer that Fig. 4G is informative and demonstrates that under 23% most of the soma fluorescence values are clustered at baseline. We agree that a different statistical model describing the data would be more convincing and confirmed the spatial threshold with the use of a confidence interval in the text and supported the use of percent domains active for this threshold over other properties such as spatial or temporal clustering using a general linear model. P18-19, L34-2:<br /> "Heaviside step function<br /> The Heaviside step function below in equation 4 is used to mathematically model the transition from one state to the next and has been used in simple integrate and fire models (Bueno-Orovio et al., 2008; Gerstner, 2000).<br /> 𝐻(𝑎) ∶=<br /> 0, 𝑎 < 𝑎T<br /> {<br /> 1, 𝑎 {greater than or equal to} 𝑎T<br /> (4)<br /> The Heaviside step function 𝐻(𝑎) is zero everywhere before the threshold area (𝑎T) and one everywhere afterwards. From the data shown in Figure 4E where each point (𝑆(𝑎)) is an individual astrocyte response with its percent area (𝑎) domains active and if the soma was active or not denoted by a 1 or 0 respectively. To determine 𝑎T in our data we iteratively subtracted 𝐻(𝑎) from 𝑆(𝑎) for all possible values of 𝑎T to create an error term over 𝑎. The area of the minimum of that error term was denoted the threshold area.

Comments on revisions: Even with the added explanations, I am still not sure that the data show a specific threshold, or that the statistical model enforce a threshold onto the data. The data in Fig. 4G does not in my view clearly show a clear threshold as suggested. The analyses are strengthened with an added statistical modeling, however, the details of the modeling is not presented in the manuscript as far as I can see. As a bare minimum the statistical packages/tools used, the model details and goodness of fit as residual plots must be shown/commented.

The description of methods should have been considerably more thorough throughout. For instance which temperature the acute slice experiments were performed at, and whether slices were prepared in ice-cold solution, are crucial to know as these parameters heavily influence both astrocyte morphology and signaling. Moreover, no monitoring of physiological parameters (oxygen level, CO2, arterial blood gas analyses, temperature etc) of the in vivo anesthetized mice is mentioned. These aspects are critical to control for when working with acute in vivo two-photon microscopy of mice; the physiological parameters rapidly decay within a few hours with anesthesia and following surgery.

Authors reply: We have increased the thoroughness of our methods section. Especially including that body temperature and respiration were indeed monitored throughout anesthesia.

Comments on revisions: Bath temperature for slice experiments, or cutting conditions are still not reported. For the in vivo experiments, it must be commented that this level of physiological monitoring for acute in vivo brain physiology experiments (self breathing, no control of O2/CO2) is barely adequate and could represent a considerable caveat of the study.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

There is a long-standing idea that choices influence evaluation: options we choose are re-evaluated to be better than they were before the choice. There has been some debate about this finding, and the authors developed several novel methods for detecting these re-evaluations in task designs where options are repeatedly presented against several alternatives. Using these novel methods the authors clearly demonstrate this re-evaluation phenomenon in several existing datasets and show that estimations of dynamic valuation correlate with neural activity in prefrontal cortex.

Strengths:

The paper is well-written and figures are clear. The authors provided evidence for the behaviour effect using several techniques and generated surrogate data (where the ground truth is known) to demonstrate the robustness of their methods. The author avoid over-selling the work, with a lucid description of limitations, and potential for further exploration of the work, in the discussion.

Comments on revisions:

The authors did a good job responding to the comments.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Zylberberg and colleagues show that food choice outcomes and BOLD signal in the vmPFC are better explained by algorithms that update subjective values during the sequence of choices compared to algorithms based on static values acquired before the decision phase. This study presents a valuable means of reducing the apparent stochasticity of choices in common laboratory experiment designs. The evidence supporting the claims of the authors is solid, although currently limited to choices between food items because no other goods were examined. The work will be of interest to researchers examining decision making across various social and biological sciences.

Comments on revisions:

We thank the authors for carefully addressing our concerns about the first version of the manuscript. The manuscript text and contributions are now much more clear and convincing.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors investigated if/how distractor suppression derived from statistical learning may be implemented in early visual cortex. While in a scanner, participants conducted a standard additional singleton task in which one location more frequently contained a salient distractor. The results showed that activity in EVC was suppressed for the location of the salient distractor as well as for neighbouring neutral locations. This suppression was not stimulus specific - meaning it occurred equally for distractors, targets and neutral items - and it was even present in trials in which the search display was omitted. Generally, the paper was clear, the experiment was well-designed, and the data are interesting. Nevertheless, I do have several concerns mostly regarding the interpretation of the results.

(1) My biggest concern with the study is regarding the interpretation of some of the results. Specifically, regarding the dynamics of the suppression. I appreciate that there are some limitations with what you might be able to say here given the method but I do feel as if you have committed to a single interpretation where others might still be at play. Below I've listed a few alternatives to consider.

(a) Sustained Suppression. I was wondering if there is anything in your results that would speak for or against the suppression being task specific. That is, is it possible that people are just suppressing the HPDL throughout the entire experiment (i.e., also through ITI, breaks, etc., rather than just before and during the search). Since the suppression does not seem volitional, I wonder if participants might apply a blanket suppression to HPDL until they learn otherwise. Since your localiser comes after the task you might be able to see hints of sustained suppression in the HPDL during these trials.

(b) Enhancement followed by suppression. Another alternative that wasn't discussed would be an initial transient enhancement of the HPDL which might be brought on by the placeholders followed by more sustained suppression through the search task. Of course, on the whole this would look like suppression, but this still seems like it would hold different implications compared to simply "proactive suppression". This would be something like search and destroy however could be on the location level before the actual onset of the search display.

(2) I was also considering whether your effects might be at least partially attributable to priming type effects. This would be on the spatial (not feature) level as it is clear that the distractors are switching colours. Basically, is it possible that on trial n participants see the HPDL with the distractor in it and then on trial n+1 they suppress that location. This would be something distinct from the statistical learning framework and from the repetition suppression discussion you have already included. To test for this, you could look at the trials that follow omission or trials. If there is no suppression or less suppression on these trials it would seem fair to conclude that the suppression is at least in part due to the previous trial.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The authors of this work set out to test ideas about how observers learn to ignore irrelevant visual information. Specifically, they used fMRI to scan participants who performed a visual search task. The task was designed in such a way that highly salient but irrelevant search items were more likely to appear at a given spatial location. With a region-of-interest approach, the authors found that activity in visual cortex that selectively responds to that location was generally suppressed, in response to all stimuli (search targets, salient distractors, or neutral items), as well as in the absence of an anticipated stimulus.

Strengths of the study include: A well-written and well-argued manuscript; clever application of a region of interest approach to fMRI design, which allows articulating clear tests of different hypotheses; careful application of follow-up analyses to rule out alternative, strategy-based accounts of the findings; tests of the robustness of the findings to detailed analysis parameters such as ROI size; and exclusion of the role of regional baseline differences in BOLD responses.

The report might be enhanced by analyses (perhaps in a surface space) that distinguish amongst the multiple "early" retinotopic visual areas that are analysed in the aggregate here. Furthermore, the study could benefit from an analysis that tests the correlation over observers between the magnitude of their behavioural effects and their neural responses.

The study provides an advance over previous studies, which identified enhancement or suppression in visual cortex as a function of search target/distractor predictability, but in less spatially-specific way. It also speaks to open questions about whether such suppression/enhancement is observed only in response to the arrival of visual information, or instead is preparatory, favouring the latter view. The theoretical advance is moderate, in that it is largely congruent with previous frameworks, rather than strongly excluding an opposing view or providing a major step change in our understanding of how distractor suppression unfolds.

Joint Public Review:

In the microglia research community, it is accepted that microglia change their shape both gradually and acutely along a continuum that is influenced by external factors both in their microenvironments and in circulation. Ideally, a given morphological state reflects a functional state that provides insight into a microglia's role in physiological and pathological conditions. The current manuscript introduces MorphoCellSorter, an open-source tool designed for automated morphometric analysis of microglia. This method adds to the many programs and platforms available to assess the characteristics of microglial morphology; however, MorphoCellSorter is unique in that it uses Andrew's plotting to rank populations of cells together (in control and experimental groups) and presents "big picture" views of how entire populations of microglia alter under different conditions. Notably, MorphoCellSorter is versatile, as it can be used across a wide array of imaging techniques and equipment. For example, the authors use MorphoCellSorter on images of fixed and live tissues representing different biological contexts such as embryonic stages, Alzheimer's disease models, stroke, and primary cell cultures.

This manuscript outlines a strategy for efficiently ranking microglia beyond the classical homeostatic vs. active morphological states. The outcome offers only a minor improvement over the already available strategies that have the same challenge: how to interpret the ranking functionally.

Strengths and Weaknesses:

(1) The authors offer an alternative perspective on microglia morphology, exploring the option to rank microglia instead of categorizing them with means of clusterings like k-means, which should better reflect the concept of a microglia morphology continuum. They demonstrate that these ranked representations of morphology can be illustrated using histograms across the entire population, allowing the identification of potential shifts between experimental groups. Although the idea of using Andrews curves is innovative, the distance between ranked morphologies is challenging to measure, raising the question of whether the authors oversimplify the problem. Also, the discussion about the pipeline's uniqueness does not go into the details of alternative models. The introduction remains weak in outlining the limitations of current methods (L90). Acknowledging this limitation will be necessary.

(2) The manuscript suffers from several overstatements and simplifications, which need to be resolved. For example:

a) L40: The authors talk about "accurately ranked cells". Based on their results, the term "accuracy" is still unclear in this context.

b) L50: Microglial processes are not necessarily evenly distributed in the healthy brain. Depending on their embedded environment, they can have longer process extensions (e.g., frontal cortex versus cerebellum).

c) L69: The term "metabolic challenge" is very broad, ranging from glycolysis/FAO switches to ATP-mediated morphological adaptations, and it needs further clarification about the author's intended meaning.

d) L75: Is morphology truly "easy" to obtain?

e) L80: The sentence structure implies that clustering or artificial intelligence (AI) are parameters, which is incorrect. Furthermore, the authors should clarify the term "AI" in their intended context of morphological analysis.

f) L390f: An assumption is made that the contralateral hemisphere is a non-pathological condition. How confident are the authors about this statement? The brain is still exposed to a pathological condition, which does not stop at one brain hemisphere.

(3) Methodological questions:

a) L299: An inversion operation was applied to specific parameters. The description needs to clarify the necessity of this since the PCA does not require it.

b) Different biological samples have been collected across different species (rat, mouse) and disease conditions (stroke, Alzheimer's disease).<br /> Sex is a relevant component in microglia morphology. At first glance, information on sex is missing for several of the samples. The authors should always refer to Table 1 in their manuscript to avoid this confusion. Furthermore, how many biological animals have been analyzed? It would be beneficial for the study to compare different sexes and see how accurate Andrew's ranking would be in ranking differences between males and females. If they have a rationale for choosing one sex, this should be explained.<br /> In the methodology, the slice thickness has been given in a range. Is there a particular reason for this variability? Also, the slice thickness is inadequate to cover the entire microglia morphology. How do the authors include this limitation of their strategy? Did the authors define a cut-off for incomplete microglia?

c) The manuscript outlines that the authors have used different preprocessing pipelines, which is great for being transparent about this process. Yet, it would be relevant to provide a rationale for the different imaging processing and segmentation pipelines and platform usages (Supplementary Figure 7). For example, it is not clear why the Z maximum projection is performed at the end for the Alzheimer's Disease model, while it's done at the beginning of the others. The same holds through for cropping, filter values, etc. Would it be possible to analyze the images with the same pipelines and compare whether a specific pipeline should be preferable to others? On a note, Matlab is not open-access.<br /> This also includes combining the different animals to see which insights could be gained using the proposed pipelines.

d) L227: Performing manual thresholding isn't ideal because it implies the preprocessing could be improved. Additionally, it is important to consider that morphology may vary depending on the thresholding parameters. Comparing different acquisitions that have been binarized using different criteria could introduce biases.

e) Parameter choices:

L375: When using k-means clustering, it is good practice to determine the number of clusters (k) using silhouette or elbow scores. Simply selecting a value of k based on its previous usage in the literature is not rigorous, as the optimal number of clusters depends on the specific data structure. If they are seeking a more objective clustering approach, they could also consider employing other unsupervised techniques, (e.g. HDBSCAN) (L403f).

L373: A rationale for the choice of the 20 non-dimensional parameters as well as a detailed explanation of their computation such as the skeleton process ratio is missing. Also, how strongly correlated are those parameters, and how might this correlation bias the data outcomes? Differences between circularity and roundness factors are not coming across and require further clarification. One is applied to the soma and the other to the cell, but why is neither circularity nor loudness factor applied to both?

f) PCA analysis:

The authors spend a lot of text to describe the basic principles of PCA. PCA is mathematically well-described and does not require such depth in the description and would be sufficient with references. Furthermore, there are the following points that require attention:

L321: PC1 is the most important part of the data could be an incorrect statement because the highest dispersion could be noise, which would not be the most relevant part of the data. Therefore, the term "important" has to be clarified.

L323: As before, it's not given that the first two components hold all the information.

L327 and L331 contain mistakes in the nomenclature: Mix up of "wi" should be "wn" because "i" does not refer to anything. The same for "phi i = arctan(yn/wn)" should be "phi n".

L348: Spearman's correlation measures monotonic correlation, not linear correlation. Either the authors used Pearson Correlation for linearity or Spearman correlation for monotonic. This needs to be clarified to avoid misunderstandings.

g) If the authors find no morphological alteration, how can they ensure that the algorithm is sensitive enough to detect them? When morphologies are similar, it's harder to spot differences. In cases where morphological differences are more apparent, like stroke, classification is more straightforward.

h) Minor aspects:

{section sign} % notation requires to include (weight/volume) annotation.

{section sign} Citation/source of the different mouse lines should be included in the method sections (e.g. L117).

{section sign} L125: The length of the single housing should be specified to ensure no variability in this context.

{section sign} L673: Typo to the reference to the figure.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript presents a significant and rigorous investigation into the role of CHMP5 in regulating bone formation and cellular senescence. The study provides compelling evidence that CHMP5 is essential for maintaining endolysosomal function and controlling mitochondrial ROS levels, thereby preventing the senescence of skeletal progenitor cells.

Strengths:

The authors demonstrate that the deletion of Chmp5 results in endolysosomal dysfunction, elevated mitochondrial ROS, and ultimately enhanced bone formation through both autonomous and paracrine mechanisms. The innovative use of senolytic drugs to ameliorate musculoskeletal abnormalities in Chmp5-deficient mice is a novel and critical finding, suggesting potential therapeutic strategies for musculoskeletal disorders linked to endolysosomal dysfunction.

Weaknesses:

The manuscript requires a deeper discussion or exploration of CHMP5's roles and a more refined analysis of senolytic drug specificity and effects. This would greatly enhance the comprehensiveness and clarity of the manuscript.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors try to show the importance of CHMP5 for skeletal development.

Strengths:

The findings of this manuscript are interesting. The mouse phenotypes are well done and are of interest to a broader (bone) field.

Weaknesses:

The mechanistic insights are mediocre, and the cellular senescence aspect poor.

In total, it has not been shown that there are actual senescent cells that are reduced after D+Q-treatment. These statements need to be scaled back substantially.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, Zhang et al. reported that CHMP5 restricts bone formation by controlling endolysosome-mitochondrion-mediated cell senescence. The effects of CHMP5 on osteoclastic bone resorption and bone turnover have been reported previously (PMID: 26195726), in which study the aberrant bone phenotype was observed in the CHMP5-ctsk-CKO mouse model, using the same mouse model, Zhang et al., report a novel role of CHMP5 on osteogenesis through affecting cell senescence. Overall, it is an interesting study and provides new insights in the field of cell senescence and bone.

Strengths:

Analyzed the bone phenotype OF CHMP5-periskeletal progenitor-CKO mouse model and found the novel role of senescent cells on osteogenesis and migration.

Weaknesses:

(1) There are a lot of papers that have reported that senescence impairs osteogenesis of skeletal stem cells. In this study, the author claimed that Chmp5 deficiency induces skeletal progennitor cell senescence and enhanced osteogenesis. Can the authors explain the controversial results?

(2) Co-culture of Chmp5-KO periskeletal progenitors with WT ones should be conducted to detect the migration and osteogenesis of WT cells in response to Chmp5-KO-induced senescent cells. In addition, the co-culture of WT periskeletal progenitors with senescent cells induced by H2O2, radiation, or from aged mice would provide more information.

(3) Many EVs were secreted from Chmp5-deleted periskeletal progenitors, compared to the rarely detected EVs around WT cells. Since EVs of BMSCs or osteoprogenitors show strong effects of promoting osteogenesis, did the EVs contribute to the enhanced osteogenesis induced by Chmp5-defeciency?

(4) EVs secreted from senescent cells propagate senescence and impair osteogenesis, why do EVs secreted from senescent cells induced by Chmp5-defeciency have opposite effects on osteogenesis?

(5) The Chmp5-ctsk mice show accelerated aging-related phenotypes, such as hair loss and joint stiffness. Did Ctsk also label cells in hair follicles or joint tissue?

(6) Fifteen proteins were found to increase and five proteins to decrease in the cell supernatant of Chmp5Ctsk periskeletal progenitors. How about SASP factors in the secretory profile?

(7) D+Q treatment mitigates musculoskeletal pathologies in Chmp5 conditional knockout mice. In the previously published paper (CHMP5 controls bone turnover rates by dampening NF-κB activity in osteoclasts), inhibition of osteoclastic bone resorption rescues the aberrant bone phenotype of the Chmp5 conditional knockout mice. Whether the effects of D+Q on bone overgrowth is because of the inhibition of bone resorption?

(8) The role of VPS4A in cell senescence should be measured to support the conclusion that CHMP5 regulates osteogenesis by affecting cell senescence.

(9) Cell senescence with markers, such as p21 and H2AX, co-stained with GFP should be performed in the mouse models to indicate the effects of Chmp5 on cell senescence in vivo.

(10) ADTC5 cell as osteochondromas cells line, is not a good cell model of periskeletal progenitors. Maybe primary periskeletal progenitor cell is a better choice.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript explores the role of the Evening Complex (EC), specifically focusing on ELF3, a disordered protein component of the EC, and its temperature-dependent phase behavior. The study highlights the role of polyQ tracts in modulating temperature-sensitive condensate formation and provides a combination of computational approaches, including REST2 simulations and coarse-grained Martini simulations, to investigate how polyQ tract length and sequence context influence this behavior.

Strengths:

The study addresses a key question in plant biology - how temperature influences circadian clock-mediated growth regulation through protein phase behavior. The manuscript introduces the novel finding that polyQ tract length modulates the temperature-dependent formation of helices and condensates.

Weaknesses:

(1) Coarse-Grained Simulation Results Not Supported by Data:<br /> The results presented in Figure 6A of the manuscript do not seem to show a clear trend in the number of clusters formed as a function of polyQ tract length. This is particularly evident in the comparison between 0Q and 7Q polyQ lengths, which display statistically similar values in terms of the number of clusters. The lack of distinction between these values raises questions about the sensitivity of the coarse-grained simulations to polyQ tract length, which the authors claim as a key modulator of condensate formation. This discrepancy weakens the argument that polyQ length directly impacts the clustering behavior in the simulations.<br /> Suggested Analysis:<br /> - A more detailed statistical analysis should be performed to assess whether the observed differences between polyQ lengths are significant. This could involve hypothesis testing or the use of error bars in the graphs to better communicate the variability in the data.<br /> - Additionally, the authors should examine whether there are other features, such as cluster shape or internal structure, that might differentiate between different polyQ lengths, even if the total number of clusters is similar.

(2) Inconsistency in Cluster Size Across Temperatures (Figure 6B):<br /> The results in Figure 6B show a striking difference in the size of the largest cluster between temperatures of 290K and 300K. This abrupt shift in behavior lacks a clear mechanistic explanation. Typically, phase transitions driven by temperature are more gradual, unless there is some underlying structural or chemical shift that the authors have not accounted for. Without a clear explanation, this sudden change in behavior reduces confidence in the simulation results.<br /> Suggested Analysis:<br /> - The authors should explore possible explanations for the dramatic difference in cluster size between 290K and 300K. For example, they could investigate whether specific interactions (such as the breaking or formation of hydrogen bonds or hydrophobic contacts) might explain the behavior at higher temperatures.<br /> - It is important to check whether the coarse-grained simulation model has been adequately parameterized and scaled for accurate temperature dependence. Atomistic simulations of monomers and dimers with varying polyQ tract lengths could be used to fine-tune the coarse-grained model, ensuring it accurately reflects molecular behavior. The gross estimate of a 10% scaling factor might be insufficient and could lead to inaccurate representations of cluster formation.

(3) Scaling of Coarse-Grained Model with Atomistic Simulations:<br /> As mentioned, the coarse-grained model used in the study may not have been properly scaled against atomistic data. A simple scaling factor of 10% may not be appropriate for accurately capturing the behavior of polyQ tracts across different lengths, especially considering their sensitivity to subtle changes in temperature. Without rigorous validation against atomistic simulations, the coarse-grained model's predictions could be skewed.<br /> Suggested Analysis:

(4) To address this, the authors should compare the coarse-grained model with atomistic simulations of monomeric and dimeric forms of ELF3 with different polyQ tract lengths. By comparing key structural parameters (e.g., radius of gyration, contact maps, and clustering propensity), the authors could adjust the coarse-grained model to more accurately reflect the atomistic behavior. The authors have wealth of atomistic simulation data that could afford such benchmarking and identification of scaling factor<br /> o Additionally, the authors should investigate whether the assumed scaling factor of 10% is appropriate for each polyQ length or whether it needs to be refined based on specific properties, such as the number of hydrophobic interactions or secondary structure stability.

(5) Lack of Analysis for Liquid-Like Behavior in Phase Separation:<br /> The simulations presented in the manuscript do not analyze the liquid-like behavior of ELF3 condensates, which is a key characteristic of liquid-liquid phase separation (LLPS). In LLPS systems, condensates are often dynamic, with chains exchanging between clusters, indicating liquid-like rather than solid-like behavior. The authors fail to probe this crucial aspect, which is necessary to support the claim that ELF3 undergoes phase separation.<br /> Suggested Analysis:<br /> - The authors should conduct additional analyses to probe the liquid-like nature of the clusters formed by ELF3. One approach would be to analyze the dynamics of chain exchange between clusters, measuring how frequently chains leave one cluster and join another over time. This analysis would reveal whether the condensates behave as liquid-like, dynamic structures or more static, solid-like aggregates.<br /> - Additionally, the temperature dependence of these exchange dynamics should be investigated. In true liquid-liquid phase separation, the rate of chain exchange is often sensitive to temperature. Observing how this rate changes between 290K and 300K, for instance, could help explain the abrupt shift in cluster size seen in Figure 6B.<br /> - The authors should also analyze whether the internal structures of the condensates are consistent with a liquid-like phase. For example, radial distribution functions and contact lifetimes could be calculated to reveal whether the clusters exhibit liquid-like organization.

(6) Lack of justification of polydispersity of polyQ:<br /> The authors don't provide any rationale for choice of different copies of polyQ used in the manuscript for their chain-growth simulation studies. It will be more apt if it can be motivated via some precedent experimental observations.

(7) Lack of initiative to connect to Experiments:<br /> While the computational models and simulations provide robust theoretical insights, the absence of direct experimental validation weakens the overall impact of the manuscript. For example, experimental data on how specific mutations in the polyQ tract influence ELF3 behavior in vivo would significantly bolster the authors' claims. The manuscript would benefit from either citing existing experimental studies that corroborate these findings or from suggesting future experimental directions.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors aimed to explore how a key protein in the circadian clock of plants, ELF3, responds to temperature changes by forming molecular condensates. They focused on understanding the role of a specific region of the protein, a polyQ tract, in promoting temperature-sensitive structural changes and regulating the formation of condensates. Through a series of computational simulations, they sought to uncover the molecular basis for ELF3's temperature responsiveness and its broader implications for plant growth and adaptation to environmental conditions.

Strengths:

The study's strength lies in its focus on an important biological question: how plants sense and respond to temperature changes at the molecular level. The authors employed a variety of computational techniques, including coarse-grained simulations, to explore the role of specific molecular features in this process. These methods provide a multi-scale view of protein behavior and offer valuable insights into how molecular structures may influence biological function.

Weaknesses:

However, there are notable weaknesses in the evidence provided. While the authors present trends in molecular changes, such as shifts in helical propensity and the formation of condensates, these results seem subtle and are not strongly substantiated by statistical analysis. The lack of error bars in the figures makes it difficult to distinguish between meaningful signals and potential noise in the data. Furthermore, the temperature-sensitive behavior appears to be influenced more by chain length than by sequence-specific effects of the polyQ region, raising questions about whether the findings truly capture the molecular mechanisms responsible for temperature sensing. Additionally, some simulations, particularly those related to the formation of condensates, do not appear fully converged, which casts further doubt on the robustness of the results.

Additional Context for Readers:

Readers should interpret the results with caution, especially regarding the molecular mechanisms proposed for temperature sensing. While the study presents interesting trends, the evidence is not definitive, and the findings may be more reflective of general protein behavior (such as the effect of chain length on condensate formation) than specific sequence-driven responses to temperature. Further experimental studies and more converged simulations will be necessary to fully understand the role of ELF3 in temperature regulation.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

(1) Summary of the Paper:

This paper by Chen et al. examines the cellular composition and gene expression of the hypothalamic medial preoptic area (MPOA) in two closely related deer mouse species (P. maniculatus and P. polionotus) that exhibit distinct social behaviors. Through single-nucleus RNA sequencing (snRNA-seq), Chen et al., identify sex- and species-specific neuronal cell types that likely contribute to differences in mating and parental care. By comparing monogamous and promiscuous species, the study provides insights into how neuronal diversity and gene expression changes in the MPOA might underlie the evolution of social behaviors.

(2) Strengths of the Paper:

The paper excels in several areas. First, the data presentation is clear and well-organized, making the complex findings easy to follow. The writing is straightforward and highly accessible, which enhances the overall readability. The experimental design is innovative, particularly in how they combined samples from different species into the same dataset and then used post-hoc identification to distinguish cell types by species. This dramatically controls for potential batch effects in my opinion. Additionally, the authors contextualize their findings within the framework of previously published studies on Mus musculus, providing a strong comparative analysis that enhances the significance of their work.

3) Weaknesses of the Paper:

The major limitation of the study is the absence of causal experiments linking the observed changes in MPOA cell types to species-specific social behaviors. While the study provides valuable correlational data, it lacks functional experiments that would demonstrate a direct relationship between the neuronal differences and behavior. For instance, manipulating these cell types or gene expressions in vivo and observing their effects on behavior would have strengthened the conclusions, although I certainly appreciate the difficulty in this, especially in non-musculus mice. Without such experiments, the study remains speculative about how these neuronal differences contribute to the evolution of social behaviors.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors report several interesting species and sex differences in cell type expression that may relate to species differences in behavior. The differential cell type abundance findings build on previously observed species/sex differences in behavior and brain anatomy. These data will be a valuable resource for behavioral neuroscientists. These findings are important but the manuscript goes too far in attributing causal influences to differences in behavior. A second important problem is that dissections used for the sequencing data include other neuropeptide-rich areas of the hypothalamus like the PVN. Although histology is included, the results in the main manuscript often do not include the mPOA making it hard to know if species/sex differences are consistent across different hypothalamic regions. The manuscript would benefit from more precise language.

Strengths:

The data are novel because cell-type atlases are available for only a few species.

The authors have clearly defined appropriate steps taken to obtain trustworthy estimations of cell type abundance. Furthermore, the criteria for each cell type assignment were described in a way for readers to easily replicate. The rigor in comparing cell abundance provides convincing evidence that these species have differences in MPOA cellular composition.

The authors have a good explanation for why 19 of the 53 neuron clusters were not classified (possible Mus/Peromyscus anatomical differences, some cell types don't have well-defined transcriptional profiles).

Validated findings with histology

Weaknesses:

Some methodology could be further explained, like the decision of a 15% cutoff value for cell type assignment per cluster, or the necessity of a multi-step analysis pipeline for gene enrichment studies.

The authors should exercise strong caution in making inferences about these differences being the basis of parental behavior. It is possible, given connections to relevant research, but without direct intervention, direct claims should be avoided. There should be clear distinctions of what to conclude and what to propose as possibilities for future research.

Histology is not performed on all regions included in the sequencing analysis.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors performed snRNA-seq in the pre-optic area (POA), a heterogeneous brain region implicated in multiple innate behaviors, comparing two species of Peromyscus mice that possess strikingly different parenting behaviors. P. polionotus shows high levels of parental care from both sexes of parent, and P. maniculatus shows lower levels of care, predominantly displayed by dams rather than sires. The overall goal of understanding the genomic basis of behavioral variation is significant and of broad interest and comparative studies in POA in these two species is an excellent approach to tackle this question. The authors correctly point out that existing studies largely compare species that are highly divergent, such as mice and humans, which confounds the association of specific neuronal populations or gene expression patterns with distinct behaviors. They identify neuronal populations with differential abundance between species and sexes and additionally report sex and species differences in gene expression within each transcriptomic cell type. Their cell type classification is aided by mapping their Peromyscus cells onto a previously existing POA single-cell dataset generated in lab mice. However, a significant fraction of the cells cannot be assigned to Mus types, which confounds their analysis. The detection and validation of previously observed sex differences in the Gal/Moxd1 cell type and species differences in Avp expression provide additional support that their data are solid. This study provides an important resource for comparative single-cell studies in the brain.

Strengths:

This is a pioneering comparative snRNA-seq study that provides a roadmap for similar approaches in non-traditional model organisms.

The authors have identified populations that may underlie sex- and species- differences in parenting behavior in rodents.

A significant strength of the manuscript is the histological validation of their most robust marker genes.

Weaknesses:

My primary concern is that the dataset is limited: 52,121 neuronal nuclei across 24 samples, which does not provide many cells per cluster to analyze comparatively across sex and species, particularly given the heterogeneity of the region dissected. The Supplementary table reports lower UMIs/genes per cell than is typically seen as well. Perhaps additional information could be obtained from the data by not restricting the analyses to cells that can be assigned to Mus types. A direct comparison of the two Peromyscus species could be valuable as would a more complete Peromyscus POA atlas.

In Supplement 7, it appears that most neurons can be assigned as excitatory or inhibitory, but then so many of these cells remain in the unassigned "gray blob" seen in panel 1E. Clustering of excitatory and inhibitory neurons separately, as in in prior cited work in Mus POA (refs 31 and 57) may boost statistical power to detect sex and species differences in cell types. Perhaps the cells that cannot be assigned to Mus contain too few reads to be useful, in which case they should be filtered out in the QC. The technical challenges of a comparative single-cell approach are considerable, so it benefits the scientific community to provide transparency about them.

The Calb1 dimorphism as observed by immunostaining, appears much more extensive in P. maniculatus compared to P. polionotus (Figures 3 E and F). This finding is not reflected in the counts of the i20:Gal/Moxd1 cluster. The use of Calb1 staining as a proxy for the Gal/Moxd1 cluster would be strengthened if the number of POA Calb1+ neurons that are found in each cluster was apparent. There may be additional Calb+ neurons in the cells that are not annotated to a Mus cluster. This clarification would add support to the overall conclusion that there is reduced sexual dimorphism in P. polionotus.

The relationship between the sex steroid receptor expression and the sex bias in gene expression would be improved if the sex bias in sex steroid receptor expression was included in Supplementary Figure 10.

There is no explanation for the finding that there is a female bias in gene expression across all cell types in P. polionotus.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The researchers examined how individuals who were born blind or lost their vision early in life process information, specifically focusing on the decoding of Braille characters. They explored the transition of Braille character information from tactile sensory inputs, based on which hand was used for reading, to perceptual representations that are not dependent on the reading hand.

They identified tactile sensory representations in areas responsible for touch processing and perceptual representations in brain regions typically involved in visual reading, with the lateral occipital complex serving as a pivotal "hinge" region between them.

In terms of temporal information processing, they discovered that tactile sensory representations occur prior to cognitive perceptual representations. The researchers suggest that this pattern indicates that even in situations of significant brain adaptability, there is a consistent chronological progression from sensory to cognitive processing.

Strengths:

By combining fMRI and EEG, and focusing on the diagnostic case of Braille reading, the paper provides an integrated view of the transformation processing from sensation to perception in the visually deprived brain. Such a multimodal approach is still rare in the study of human brain plasticity and allows to discern the nature of information processing in blind people early visual cortex, as well as the timecourse of information processing in a situation of significant brain adaptability.

Weaknesses:

ROI and searchlight analyses are not completely overlapping, although this might be due to the specific limits and strengths of each approach. Moreover, the conclusions regarding the behavioral relevance of the sensory and perceptual representations in the putatively reorganized brain, although important, are limited due to the behavioral measurements adopted.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Haupt and colleagues performed a well-designed study to test the spatial and temporal gradient of perceiving braille letters in blind individuals. Using cross-hand decoding of the read letters, and comparing it to the decoding of the read letter for each hand, they defined perceptual and sensory responses. Then they compared where (using fMRI) and when (using EEG) these were decodable. Using fMRI, they showed that low-level tactile responses specific to each hand are decodable from the primary and secondary somatosensory cortex as well as from IPS subregions, the insula and LOC. In contrast, more abstract representations of the braille letter independent from the reading hand were decodable from several visual ROIs, LOC, VWFA and surprisingly also EVC. Using a parallel EEG design, they showed that sensory hand-specific responses emerge in time before perceptual braille letter representations. Last, they used RSA to show that the behavioral similarity of the letter pairs correlates to the neural signal of both fMRI (for the perceptual decoding, in visual and ventral ROIs) and EEG (for both sensory and perceptual decoding).

Strengths:

This is a very well-designed study and it is analyzed well. The writing clearly describes the analyses and results. Overall, the study provides convincing evidence from EEG and fMRI that the decoding of letter identity across the reading hand occurs in the visual cortex in blindness. Further, it addresses important questions about the visual cortex hierarchy in blindness (whether it parallels that of the sighted brain or is inverted) and its link to braille reading.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Triple-negative breast cancer (TNBC) accounts for approximately 15-20% of all breast cancers. Compared to other types of breast cancer, TNBC exhibits highly aggressive clinical characteristics, a greater likelihood of metastasis, poorer clinical outcomes, and lower survival rates. Immunotherapy is an important treatment option for TNBC, but there is significant heterogeneity in treatment response. Therefore, it is crucial to accurately identify immunosuppressive patients before treatment and actively seek more effective therapeutic approaches for TNBC patients.

Strengths:

In this work, the authors collected and integrated data from single cells and large volumes of RNA sequencing and RNA-SEQ to analyze the TME landscape mediated by genes associated with iron death. On this basis, the prediction model of prognosis and treatment response of 131 patients was constructed using a machine learning algorithm, which is beneficial to provide individualized and precise treatment guidance for breast cancer patients.

Weaknesses:

However, there are still some issues that need to be clarified:

(1) The description of the research background is too brief and concise, and it is necessary to add some information about the limitations of existing methods and the differences and advantages of this study compared with other published relevant studies, so as to better highlight the necessity and research value of this study.

(2) This study is a retrospective analysis of a public data set and lacks experimental validation and prospective experiments to support the results of bioinformatics analysis. This should be added to the acknowledgment of limitations in the study.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study aims to explore the ferroptosis-related immune landscape of TNBC through the integration of single-cell and bulk RNA sequencing data, followed by the development of a risk prediction model for prognosis and drug response. The authors identified key subpopulations of immune cells within the TME, particularly focusing on T cells and macrophages. Using machine learning algorithms, the authors constructed a ferroptosis-related gene risk score that accurately predicts survival and the potential response to specific drugs in TNBC patients.

Strengths:

The study identifies distinct subpopulations of T cells and macrophages with differential expression of ferroptosis-related genes. The clustering of these subpopulations and their correlation with patient prognosis is highly insightful, especially the identification of the TREM2+ and FOLR2+ macrophage subtypes, which are linked to either favorable or poor prognoses. The risk model thus holds potential not only for prognosis but also for guiding treatment selection in personalized oncology.

Weaknesses:

The study has a relatively small sample size, with only 9 samples analyzed by scRNA-seq. Given the typically high heterogeneity of the tumor microenvironment (TME) in cancer patients, this may affect the accuracy of the conclusions. The scRNA-seq analysis focuses on the expression of ferroptosis-related genes in various cells within the TME. In contrast, bulk RNA sequencing uses data from tumor samples, and the results between the two analyses are not consistent. The bulk RNA sequencing results may not accurately capture the changes happening in the microenvironment.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Juan Liu et al. investigated the interplay between habitat fragmentation and climate-driven thermophilization in birds in an island system in China. They used extensive bird monitoring data (9 surveys per year per island) across 36 islands of varying size and isolation from the mainland covering 10 years. The authors use extensive modeling frameworks to test a general increase of the occurrence and abundance of warm-dwelling species and vice versa for cold-dwelling species using the widely used Community Temperature Index (CTI), as well the relationship between island fragmentation in terms of island area and isolation from the mainland on extinction and colonization rates of cold- and warm-adapted species. They found that indeed there was thermophilization happening during the last 10 years, which was more pronounced for the CTI based on abundances and less clearly for the occurrence based metric. Generally, the authors show that this is driven by an increased colonization rate of warm-dwelling and an increased extinction rate of cold-dwelling species. Interestingly, they unravel some of the mechanisms behind this dynamic by showing that warm-adapted species increased while cold-dwelling decreased more strongly on smaller islands, which is - according to the authors - due to lowered thermal buffering on smaller islands (which was supported by air temperature monitoring done during the study period on small and large islands). They argue, that the increased extinction rate of cold-adapted species could also be due to lowered habitat heterogeneity on smaller islands. With regards to island isolation, they show that also both thermophilization processes (increase of warm and decrease of cold-adapted species) was stronger on islands closer to the mainland, due to closer sources to species populations of either group on the mainland as compared to limited dispersal (i.e. range shift potential) in more isolated islands.

The conclusions drawn in this study are sound, and mostly well supported by the results. Only few aspects leave open questions and could quite likely be further supported by the authors themselves thanks to their apparent extensive understanding of the study system.

Strengths:

The study questions and hypotheses are very well aligned with the methods used, ranging from field surveys to extensive modeling frameworks, as well as with the conclusions drawn from the results. The study addresses a complex question on the interplay between habitat fragmentation and climate-driven thermophilization which can naturally be affected by a multitude of additional factors than the ones included here. Nevertheless, the authors use a well balanced method of simplifying this to the most important factors in question (CTI change, extinction, colonization, together with habitat fragmentation metrics of isolation and island area). The interpretation of the results presents interesting mechanisms without being too bold on their findings and by providing important links to the existing literature as well as to additional data and analyses presented in the appendix.

Weaknesses:

The metric of island isolation based on distance to the mainland seems a bit too oversimplified as in real-life the study system rather represents an island network where the islands of different sizes are in varying distances to each other, such that smaller islands can potentially draw from the species pools from near-by larger islands too - rather than just from the mainland. Although the authors do explain the reason for this metric, backed up by earlier research, a network approach could be worthwhile exploring in future research done in this system. The fact, that the authors did find a signal of island isolation does support their method, but the variation in responses to this metric could hint on a more complex pattern going on in real-life than was assumed for this study.

Comments on revisions:

I'm happy with the revisions made by the authors.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The Avrillon et al. explore the neural control of muscle by decomposing the firing activity of constituent motor units from the grid of surface electromyography (EMG) in the Tibialis (TA) Anterior and Vastus Lateralis (VL) during isometric contractions. The study involves extensive samples of motor units across the broadest range of voluntary contraction intensities up to 80% of MVC. The authors examine rate coding of the population of motor units, which describes the instantaneous firing rate of each motor unit as a function of muscle force. This relationship is characterized by a natural logarithm function that delineates two distinct phases: an initial phase with a steep acceleration in firing rate, particularly pronounced in low-threshold motor units, and a subsequent modest linear increase in firing rate, more significant in high-threshold motor units.

Strengths:

The study makes a significant contribution to the field of neuromuscular physiology by providing a detailed analysis of motor unit behavior during muscle contractions in a few ways.

(1) The significance lies in its comprehensive framework of motor unit activity during isometric contractions in the broad range of intensities, providing insights into the non-linear relationship between the firing rate and the muscle force. The extensive sample of motor units across the pool confirms the observation in animal studies in which the the spinal motoneuron exhibits a discharge consists of the distinct phases in response to synaptic currents, under the influence of persistent inward currents. As such, it is now reasonable to state the human motor units across the pool are also under control of gain modulation via some neuromodulatory effects in addition to synaptic inputs arising from ionotropic effects.<br /> (2) The firing scheme across in the entire motoneuron pool revealed in this study reconciles the discrepancy in firing organization under debate; i.e., whether it is 'onion skin' like or not (Heckman and Enoka 2012). The onion skin like model states that the low threshold motor units discharge higher than high threshold motor units and has been held for long time because the firing behaviors were examined in a partial range of contraction force range due to technical limitations. This reconciliation is crucial because it is fundamental to modelling the organization of motor unit recruitment and rate coding to achieve a desired force generation to advance our understanding of motor control.<br /> (3) The extensive data collection with a novel blind source separation algorithm on the expanded number of channel of surface EMG signal provides a robust dataset that enhances the reliability and validity of findings, setting a new standard for empirical studies in the field. \par<br /> Collectively, this study fills several knowledge gaps in the field and advances our understanding the mechanism underlying the isometric force generation.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Avrillon et al. provides a comprehensive assessment of firing rate parameters from a large percentage of the motor unit pool, in two muscles, during voluntary isometric contractions. The authors have used new quantitative methods to extract more unique motor units across contractions than prior studies. This was achieved by recording muscle fibre action potentials from four high density surface electromyogram (HDsEMG) arrays, quantifying residual EMG comparing the recorded and data-based simulation (Fig. 1A-B), and developing a metric to compare the spatial identification for each motor unit (Fig. 1D-E). From identified motor units, the authors have provided a detailed characterization of recruitment and firing rate responses during slow voluntary isometric contractions in the vastus lateralis and tibialis anterior muscles up to 75-80% of maximum intensity. In the lower limb it is interesting how lower threshold motor units have firing rate responses that saturate, whereas higher threshold units that presumably produce higher muscle contractile forces continue to increase their firing rate. Conceptually, the authors rightly focus on the literature of intrinsic motoneurone properties, but in vivo, other possibilities (that are difficult to measure in awake human participants) are that the form of descending supraspinal drive, spinal network dynamics and afferent inputs may have different effects across motor unit sizes, muscles and types of contractions. These results from single trail contractions and with a larger sample of motor units, supports the summary rate coding profiles of motor units in the extensor digitorum communis muscle (Monster and Chan, 1977).

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This is an interesting manuscript which uses state of the art experimental and simulation approaches to quantify motor unit discharge patterns in the human TA and VL. The non-linear profiles of motor unit discharge were calculated and found to have an initial acceleration phase followed by an attenuation phase. Lower threshold motor units had a larger gain of the initial acceleration whereas the higher threshold motor unit had a higher gain in the attenuation phase. These data represent a technical feat and are important for understanding how humans generate and control voluntary force.

Strengths:

The authors used rigorous, state-of-the art analyses to decompose and validate their motor unit data during a wide range of voluntary efforts.

Analyses are clearly presented, applied, and visualized.

The supplemental data provides important transparency.

Weaknesses:

Number of participants and muscles tested are relatively small - particularly given the constraints on yield. It is unclear if this will translate to other motor pools. The justification for TA and VL should be provided.

While in impressive effort was made to identify and track motor units across a range of contractions, it appears that a substantial portion of muscle force was not identified. Though high intensity contractions are challenging to decompose - the authors are commended in their technical ability in recording population motor unit discharge times with recruitment thresholds up to 75% a participant's maximal voluntary contractions. However previous groups have seen substantial recruitment motor units above 80% and even 90% maximum activation in the soleus. Given the innervation ratios of higher threshold motor units, if recruitment continued to 100%, the top quartile would likely represent a substantial portion of the traditional fast-fatigable motor units. It would be highly interesting to understand the recruitment and rate coding of the highest threshold motor units, at a minimum I would suggest using terms other than "entire range" or "full spectrum of recruitment thresholds"

The quantification of hysteresis using torque appears to make self-evident the observation that lower threshold motor units demonstrate less hysteresis with respect to torque - If there was motor unit discharge there will be force. I believe this limitation goes beyond the floor effects discussed in the manuscript. Traditionally individuals have used the discharge of a lower threshold unit as the measure on which to apply hysteresis analyses to infer ion channel function in human spinal motoneurons.

The main findings are not entirely novel. See Monster and Chan 1977 and Kanosue et al 1979

Comments on revisions:

I thank the authors for their thoughtful revision.

Just to confirm, the ranges for motor unit yield are for a single contraction. So, for example, in a participant there were 71 unique and concurrently active VL motor units able to be decomposed.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Otero-Coronel and colleagues use a combination of acoustic stimuli and electrical stimulation of the tectum to study MSI in the M-cells of adult goldfish. They first perform a necessary piece of groundwork in calibrating tectal stimulation for maximal M-cell MSI, and then characterize this MSI with slightly varying tectal and acoustic inputs. Next, they quantify the magnitude and timing of FFI that each type of input has on the M-cell, finding that both the tectum and the auditory system drive FFI, but that FFI decays more slowly for auditory signals. These are novel results that would be of interest to a broader sensory neuroscience community. By then providing pairs of stimuli separated by 50ms, they assess the ability of the first stimulus to suppress responses to the second, finding that acoustic stimuli strongly suppress subsequent acoustic responses in the M-cell, that they weakly suppress subsequent tectal stimulation, and that tectal stimulation does not appreciably inhibit subsequent stimuli of either type. Finally, they show that M-cell physiology mirrors previously reported behavioural data in which stronger stimuli underwent less integration.

The manuscript is generally well written and clear. The discussion of results is appropriately broad and open-ended. It's a good document. Our major concerns regarding the study's validity are captured in the individual comments below. In terms of impact, the most compelling new observation is the quantification of the FFI from the two sources and the logical extension of these FFI dynamics to M-cell physiology during MSI. It is also nice, but unsurprising, to see that the relationship between stimulus strength that MSI is similar for M-cell physiology to what has previously been shown for behavior. While we find the results interesting, we think that they will be of greatest interest to those specifically interested in M-cell physiology and function.

Strengths:

The methods applied are challenging and appropriate and appear to be well executed. Open questions about the physiological underpinnings of M-cell function are addressed using sound experimental design and methodology, and convincing results are provided that advance our understanding of how two streams of sensory information can interact to control behavior.

Weaknesses:

Our concerns about the manuscript are captured in the following specific comments, which we hope will provide a useful perspective for readers and actionable suggestions for the authors.

Comments relevant to the revised manuscript:

Our general assessment (above) stands unchanged from the original version. All of our comments and concerns about the original manuscript have been addressed except for two, one very minor and one quite important:

Original Comment 1 (Minor):<br /> "Line 124. Direct stimulation of the tectum to drive M-cell-projecting tectal neurons not only bypasses the retina, it also bypasses intra-tectal processing and inputs to the tectum from other sources (notably the thalamus). This is not an issue with the interpretation of the results, but this description gives the (false) impression that bypassing the retina is sufficient to prevent adaptation. Adding a sentence or two to accurately reflect the complexity of the upstream circuitry (beyond the retina) would be welcome."

The authors have replied:<br /> "The reviewer is right in that direct tectal stimulation bypasses all neural processing upstream, not only that produced in the retina and that the tectum does not exclusively process visual information. The revised version now acknowledges (lines 245-252, revised manuscript) the complexity of the system."

We think that this is sufficient to address our concern. Some citations may be in order to underpin the new text.

Original Comment 5 (Major):<br /> Figure 4C and lines 398-410.<br /> "These are beautiful examples of M-cell firing, but the text suggests that they occurred rarely and nowhere close to significantly above events observed from single modalities. We do not see this a valid result to report because there is insufficient evidence that the phenomenon shown is consistent or representative of your data."

The authors have replied:<br /> "Our experimental conditions required anesthesia and paralysis, conditions designed to reduce neuronal firing and suppress motor output. We think it is valuable to report that we still see that simultaneous presentation subthreshold unisensory stimuli can add up to become suprathreshold, paralleling behavioral observations. We do not claim and acknowledge that those examples are representative of our recording conditions, but are likely to be more representative of the multisensory integration process taking place in freely moving fish. The revised manuscript adds context to these example traces to justify their inclusion (lines 420-426)."

We do not feel that this important concern has been addressed. The stats are definitively negative. There is no statistical evidence from these data that multisensory integration is occurring in this assay. The aesthesia, paralysis, and low n may provide explanations for this negative result, but it is still a negative result (p=0.5269). To show two examples of multisensory integration for subthreshold stimuli fits the narrative, but this result is not supported. Examples where individual stimuli caused APs (and combined stimuli did not) also occurred, presumably, and at a rate that is statistically indistinguishable to the examples shown in Figure 5. As such, if results from this assay are going to be in the manuscript, acoustic-only and tectum-only examples should be shown as well, although they would not fit the narrative. To be meaningful, this experiment would have to show that multisensory integration is happening in this circuit. Frustrating though it must be, the experiment has given a negative result to that question.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary

A novel statistical model of neural population activity called the Random Projection model has been recently proposed. Not only is this model accurate, efficient, and scalable, but also is naturally implemented as a shallow neural network. This work proposes a new class of RP model called the reshaped RP model. Inheriting the virtue of the original RP model, the proposed model is more accurate in terms of data fitting and efficient in terms of lower firing rate than the original, as well as compatible with various biological constraints. In particular, the authors have demonstrated that normalizing the total synaptic input in the reshaped model has a homeostatic effect on the firing rates of the neurons, resulting in even more efficient representations with equivalent accuracy. These results suggest that synaptic normalization contributes to synaptic homeostasis as well as efficiency in neural encoding.

Strength

This paper demonstrates that the accuracy and efficiency of the random projection models can be improved by extending the model with reshaped projections. Furthermore, it broadens the applicability of the model under biological constraints of synaptic regularization. It also suggests the advantage of the sparse connectivity structure over the fully connected model for modeling spiking statistics. In summary, this work successfully integrates two different elements, statistical modeling of the spikes and synaptic homeostasis in a single biologically plausible neural network model. The authors logically demonstrate their arguments with clear visual presentations and well-structured text, facilitating an unambiguous understanding for readers.

Discussions

The authors have clearly responded to most of our questions in the revised manuscript and we are happy to recommend publishing the final version of the article as it is. Below, we would like to present some alternative interpretations of the results. These comments are not exclusive with the claims made in the articles; it is rather intended to enhance the understanding of readers by providing additional perspectives.

As summarized above, the main contribution of the work consists of two parts; (1) the reshaped RP model achieved higher performance in explaining the statistics of the spiking activity of cortical neurons with more efficient representations (=lower firing rate), (2) synaptic homeostatic normalization in the reshaped RP model yields even more efficient representations without impairing the fitting performance.

For part (1),<br /> Suppl. Fig. 1B compares reshaped RP models with RP and RP with pruning and replacement (R&P). The better performance of RP with P&R might imply the advantage of pruning over gradient descent in this setting, reflecting the non-convexities of the problem. Alternatively, it might suggest the benefit of the increased number of parameters, since pruning allows the network to explore the broader parameter space during the learning process. This latter view might partially explain the superiority of the reshaped RP model over the original RP model.<br /> It is interesting that the backprop model has higher firing rate than the reshaped model (Fig. 1D). This trend is unchanged when optimization of the neural threshold is also allowed (Supp. Fig. 2A). Since backprop model overperforms reshaped model slightly but robustly, high firing rates in the backprop model might be a genuine feature of the spike statistics.

For part (2),<br /> We note that λ regulates the average firing rate, since maximizing the entropy <-ln p(x)> with a regularization term -λ <\sum _i f(x_i)> results in λ_i = λ for all i in the Boltzmann distribution of eq. 2. Suppl. Fig. 2B could be understood as demonstrating this "homeostatic" effect of λ.<br /> Suppl. Fig. 3 could be interpreted as demonstrating the interaction of two different homeostatic mechanisms: one at the firing-rate level (as regulated by λ) and the other at the synaptic level (as regulated by φ). It shows that the range of synaptic constraints where the fitting performance is not impaired differs by the value of λ. For example, if lambda is small (\lambda = 0.25), synaptic constraint can easily deteriorate the performance; on the other hand, if lambda is large (\lambda = 4), performance remains unchanged under strict synaptic constraint. Considering that practically we are most interested in the regime where the model performs best (λ = 2.0), an advantageous feature of the homeostatic model is that homeostatic constraint is harmless at λ=2.0 for the wide range of constraints.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript presents a short report investigating mismatch responses in the auditory cortex, following previous studies focused on visual cortex. By correlating mouse locomotion speed with acoustic feedback levels, the authors demonstrate excitatory responses in a subset of neurons to halts in expected acoustic feedback. They show a lack of responses to mismatch in he visual modality. A subset of neurons show enhanced mismatch responses when both auditory and visual modalities are coupled to the animal's locomotion.

While the study is well-designed and addresses a timely question, several concerns exist regarding the quantification of animal behavior, potential alternative explanations for recorded signals, correlation between excitatory responses and animal velocity, discrepancies in reported values, and clarity regarding the identity of certain neurons.

Strengths:

(1) Well-designed study addressing a timely question in the field.<br /> (2) Successful transition from previous work focused on visual cortex to auditory cortex, demonstrating generic principles in mismatch responses.<br /> (3) Correlation between mouse locomotion speed and acoustic feedback levels provides evidence for prediction signal in the auditory cortex.<br /> (4) Coupling of visual and auditory feedback show putative multimodal integration in auditory cortex.

Weaknesses:

(1) Lack of quantification of animal behavior upon mismatches, potentially leading to alternative interpretations of recorded signals.<br /> (2) Unclear correlation between excitatory responses and animal velocity during halts, particularly in closed-loop versus playback conditions.<br /> (3) Discrepancies in reported values in a few figure panels raise questions about data consistency and interpretation.<br /> (4) Ambiguity regarding the identity of the [AM+VM] MM neurons.

Comments on revisions:

I am satisfied with all clarifications and additional analyses performed by the authors.<br /> The only concern I have is about changes in running after [AM+VM] mismatches.<br /> The authors reported that they "found no evidence of a change in running speed or pupil diameter following [AM + VM] mismatch (Figures S5A)" (line 197).<br /> Nevertheless, it seems that there is a clear increase in running speed for the [AM+VM] condition (S5A). Could this be more specifically quantified? I am concerned that part of the [AM+VM] could stem from this change in running behavior. Could one factor out the running contribution?

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In this study, Solyga and Keller use multimodal closed-loop paradigms in conjunction with multiphoton imaging of cortical responses to assess whether and how sensorimotor prediction errors in one modality influence the computation of prediction errors in another modality. Their work addresses an important open question pertaining to the relevance of non-hierarchical (lateral cortico-cortical) interactions in predictive processing within the neocortex.

Specifically, they monitor GCaMP6f responses of layer 2/3 neurons in the auditory cortex of head-fixed mice engaged in VR paradigms where running is coupled to auditory, visual, or audio-visual sensory feedback. The authors find strong auditory and motor responses in the auditory cortex, as well as weak responses to visual stimuli. Further, in agreement with previous work, they find that the auditory cortex responds to audiomotor mismatches in a manner similar to that observed in visual cortex for visuomotor mismatches. Most importantly, while visuomotor mismatches by themselves do not trigger significant responses in the auditory cortex, simultaneous coupling of audio-visual inputs to movement non-linearly enhances mismatch responses in the auditory cortex.

Their results thus suggest that prediction errors within a given sensory modality are non-trivially influenced by prediction errors from another modality. These findings are novel, interesting, and important, especially in the context of understanding the role of lateral cortico-cortical interactions and in outlining predictive processing as a general theory of cortical function.

Comments on revisions:

The authors thoroughly addressed the concerns raised. In my opinion, this has substantially strengthened the manuscript, enabling much clearer interpretation of the results reported. I commend the authors for the response to review. Overall, I find the experiments elegantly designed, and the results robust, providing compelling evidence for non-hierarchical interactions across neocortical areas and more specifically for the exchange of sensorimotor prediction error signals across modalities.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

This study explores sensory prediction errors in sensory cortex. It focuses on the question of how these signals are shaped by non-hierarchical interactions, specifically multimodal signals arising from same level cortical areas. The authors used 2-photon imaging of mouse auditory cortex in head-fixed mice that were presented with sounds and/or visual stimuli while moving on a ball. First, responses to pure tones, visual stimuli and movement onset were characterized. Then, the authors made the running speed of the mouse predictive of sound intensity and/or visual flow (closed loop). Mismatches were created through the interruption of sound and/or visual flow for 1 second, disrupting the expected sensory signal. As a control, sensory stimuli recorded during the close loop phase were presented again decoupled from the movement (open loop). The authors suggest that auditory responses to the unpredicted interruption of the sound, which affected neither running speed nor pupil size, reflect mismatch responses. That these mismatch responses were enhanced when the visual flow was congruently interrupted, indicates cross-modal influence of prediction error signals.

This study's strengths are the relevance of the question and the design of the experiment. The authors are experts in the techniques used. The analysis explores neither the full power of the experimental design nor the population activity recorded with 2-photon, leaving open the question of to what extend what the authors call mismatch responses are not sensory responses to sound interruption (offset responses). The auditory system is sensitive to transitions and indeed responses to the interruption of the sound are similar in quality, if not quantity, in the predictive and the control situation.

Comments on revisions:

The incorporation of the analysis of the animal's running speed and the pupil size upon sound interruption improves the interpretation of the data. The authors can now conclude that responses to the mismatch are not due to behavioral effects.<br /> The issue of the relationship between mismatch responses and offset responses remains uncommented. The auditory system is sensitive to transitions, also to silence. See the work of the Linden or the Barkat labs (including the work of the first author of this manuscript) on offset responses, and also that of the Mesgarani lab (Khalighinejad et al., 2019) on responses to transitions 'to clean' (Figure 1c) in human auditory cortex. Offset responses, as the first author knows well, are modulated by intensity and stimulus length (after adaptation?). That responses to the interruption of the sound are similar in quality, if not quantity, in the closed and open loop conditions suggest that offset response might modulate the mismatch response. A mismatch response that reflects a break in predictability would presumably be less modulated by the exact details of the sensory input than an offset response. Therefore, what is the relationship between the mismatch response and the mean sound amplitude prior to the sound interruption (for example during the preceding 1 second)? And between the mismatch response and the mean firing rate over the same period?<br /> Finally, how do visual stimuli modulate sound responses in the absence of a mismatch? Is the multimodal response potentiation specific to a mismatch?

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper is focused on the role of Cadherin Flamingo (Fmi) in cell competition in developing Drosophila tissues. A primary genetic tool is monitoring tissue overgrowths caused by making clones in the eye disc that expression activated Ras (RasV12) and that are depleted for the polarity gene scribble (scrib). The main system that they use is ey-flp, which make continuous clones in the developing eye-antennal disc beginning at the earliest stages of disc development. It should be noted that RasV12, scrib-i (or lgl-i) clones only lead to tumors/overgrowths when generated by continuous clones, which presumably creates a privileged environment that insulates them from competition. Discrete (hs-flp) RasV12, lgl-i clones are in fact out-competed (PMID: 20679206), which is something to bear in mind. They assess the role of fmi in several kinds of winners, and their data support the conclusion that fmi is required for winner status. However, they make the claim that loss of fmi from Myc winners converts them to losers, and the data supporting this conclusion is not compelling.

Strengths:

Fmi has been studied for its role in planar cell polarity, and its potential role in competition is interesting.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Bosch et al. reveal Flamingo (Fmi), a planar cell polarity (PCP) protein, is essential for maintaining 'winner' cells in cell competition, using Drosophila imaginal epithelia as a model. They argue that tumor growth induced by scrib-RNAi and RasV12 competition is slowed by Fmi depletion. This effect is unique to Fmi, not seen with other PCP proteins. Additional cell competition models are applied to further confirm Fmi's role in 'winner' cells. The authors also show that Fmi's role in cell competition is separate from its function in PCP formation.

Strengths:

(1) The identification of Fmi as a potential regulator of cell competition under various conditions is interesting.<br /> (2) The authors demonstrate that the involvement of Fmi in cell competition is distinct from its role in planar cell polarity (PCP) development.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Bosch and colleagues describe an unexpected function of Flamingo, a core component of the planar cell polarity pathway, in cell competition in Drosophila wing and eye disc. While Flamingo depletion has no impact on tumour growth (upon induction of Ras and depletion of Scribble throughout the eye disc), and no impact when depleted in WT cells, it specifically tunes down winner clone expansion in various genetic contexts, including the overexpression of Myc, the combination of Scribble depletion with activation of Ras in clones or the early clonal depletion of Scribble in eye disc. Flamingo depletion reduces proliferation rate and increases the rate of apoptosis in the winner clones, hence reducing their competitiveness up to forcing their full elimination (hence becoming now "loser"). This function of Flamingo in cell competition is specific of Flamingo as it cannot be recapitulated with other components of the PCP pathway, does not rely on interaction of Flamingo in trans, nor on the presence of its cadherin domain. Thus, this function is likely to rely on a non-canonical function of Flamingo which may rely on downstream GPCR signaling.

This unexpected function of Flamingo is by itself very interesting. In the framework of cell competition, these results are also important as they describe, to my knowledge, one of the only genetic conditions that specifically affect the winner cells without any impact when depleted in the loser cells. Moreover, Flamingo do not just suppress the competitive advantage of winner clones, but even turn them in putative losers. This specificity, while not clearly understood at this stage, opens a lot of exciting mechanistic questions, but also a very interesting long term avenue for therapeutic purpose as targeting Flamingo should then affect very specifically the putative winner/oncogenic clones without any impact in WT cells.

The data and the demonstration are very clean and compelling, with all the appropriate controls, proper quantifications and backed-up by observations in various tissues and genetic backgrounds. I don't see any weakness in the demonstration and all the points raised and claimed by the authors are all very well substantiated by the data. As such, I don't have any suggestions to reinforce the demonstration.

While not necessary for the demonstration, documenting the subcellular localisation and levels of Flamingo in these different competition scenarios may have been relevant and provide some hints on a putative mechanism (specifically by comparing its localisation in winner and loser cells).

Also, on a more interpretative note, the absence of impact of Flamingo depletion on JNK activation does not exclude some interesting genetic interactions. JNK output can be very contextual (for instance depending on Hippo pathway status), and it would be interesting in the future to check if Flamingo depletion could somehow alter the effect of JNK in the winner cells and promote downstream activation of apoptosis (which might normally be suppressed). It would be interesting to check if Flamingo depletion could have an impact in other contexts involving JNK activation or upon mild activation of JNK in clones.

Strengths:

- A clean and compelling demonstration of the function of Flamingo in winner cells during cell competition

- One of the rare genetic conditions that affects very specifically winner cells without any impact in losers, and then can completely switch the outcome of competition (which opens an interesting therapeutic perspective on the long term)

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Tobón and Moser reveal a remarkable amount of presynaptic diversity in the fundamental Ca dependent exocytosis of synaptic vesicles at the afferent fiber bouton synapse onto the pilar or mediolar sides of single inner hair cells of mice. These are landmark findings with profound implications for understanding acoustic signal encoding and presynaptic mechanisms of synaptic diversity at inner hair cell ribbon synapses. The paper will have an immediate and long-lasting impact in the field of auditory neuroscience.

Main findings: 1) Synaptic delays and jitter of masker responses are significantly shorter (synaptic delay: 1.19 ms) at high SR fibers (pilar) than at low SR fibers (mediolar; 2.57 ms). 2) Masked evoked EPSC are significantly larger in high SR than in low SR. 3) Quantal content and RRP size are 14 vesicles in both high and low SR fibers. 4) Depression is faster in high SR synapses suggesting they have a higher release probability and tighter Ca nanodomain coupling to docked vesicles. 5) Recovery of master-EPSCs from depletion is similar for high and low SR synapses, although there is a slightly faster rate for low SR synapses that have bigger synaptic ribbons, which is very interesting. 6) High SR synapses had larger and more compact (monophasic) sEPSCs, well suited to trigger rapidly and faithfully spikes. 7) High SR synapses exhibit lower voltage (~sound pressure in vivo) dependent thresholds of exocytosis.

Great care was taken to use physiological external pH buffers and physiological external Ca concentrations. Paired recordings were also performed at higher temperatures with IHCs at physiological resting membrane potentials and in more mature animals than previously done for paired recordings. This is extremely challenging because it becomes increasingly difficult to visualize bouton terminals when myelination becomes more prominent in the cochlear afferents. In addition, perforated patch recordings were used in the IHC to preserve its intracellular milieu intact and thus extend the viability of the IHCs. The experiments are tour-de-force and reveal several novel aspects of IHC ribbon synapses. The data set is rich and extensive. The analysis is detailed and compelling.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The study by Jaime-Tobon & Moser is a truly major effort to bridge the gap between classical observations on how auditory neurons respond to sounds and the synaptic basis of these phenomena. The so-called spiral ganglion neurons (SGNs) are the primary auditory neurons connecting the brain with hair cells in the cochlea. They all respond to sounds increasing their firing rates, but also present multiple heterogeneities. For instance, some present a low threshold to sound intensity, whereas others have high threshold. This property inversely correlates with the spontaneous rate, i.e., the rate at which each neuron fires in the absence of any acoustic input. These characteristics, along with others, have been studied by many reports over years. However, the mechanisms that allow the hair cells-SGN synapses to drive these behaviors are not fully understood.

The level of experimental complexity described in this manuscript is unparalleled, producing data that is hardly found elsewhere. The authors provide strong proof for heterogeneity in transmitter release thresholds at individual synapses and they do so in an extremely complex experimental settings. In addition, the authors found other specific differences such as in synaptic latency and max EPSCs. A reasonable effort is put in bridging these observations with those extensively reported in in vivo SGNs recordings. Similarities are many and differences are not particularly worrying as experimental conditions cannot be perfectly matched, despite the authors' efforts in minimizing them.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Jaime Tobon and Moser uses patch-clamp electrophysiology in cochlear preparations to probe the pre- and post-synaptic specializations that give rise to diverse activity of spiral ganglion afferent neurons (SGN). The experiments are quite an achievement! They use paired recordings from pre-synaptic cochlear inner hair cells (IHC) that allow precise control of voltage and therefore calcium influx, with post-synaptic recordings from type I SGN boutons directly opposed to the IHC for both presynaptic control of membrane voltage and post-synaptic measurement of synaptic function with great temporal resolution.

Any of these techniques by themselves are challenging, but the authors do them in pairs, at physiological temperatures, and in hearing animals, all of which combined make these experiments a real tour de force. The data is carefully analyzed and presented, and the results are convincing. In particular, the authors demonstrate that post-synaptic features that contribute to the spontaneous rate (SR) of predominantly monophasic post-synaptic currents (PSCs), shorter EPSC latency, and higher PSC rates are directly paired with pre-synaptic features such as a lower IHC voltage activation and tighter calcium channel coupling for release to give a higher probability of release and subsequent increase in synaptic depression. Importantly, IHCs paired with Low and High SR afferent fibers had the same total calcium currents, indicating that the same IHC can connect to both low and high SR fibers. These fibers also followed expected organizational patterns, with high SR fibers primarily contacting the pillar IHC face and low SR fibers primarily contacting the modiolar face. The authors also use in vivo-like stimulation paradigms to show different RRP and release dynamics that are similar to results from SGN in vivo recordings. Overall, this work systematically examines many features giving rise to specializations and diversity of SGN neurons.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The study investigates protein-protein interactions (PPIs) within the nuage, a germline-specific organelle essential for piRNA biogenesis in Drosophila melanogaster, using AlphaFold2 to predict interactions among 20 nuage-localizing proteins. The authors identify five novel interaction candidates and experimentally validate three of them, including Spindle-E and Squash, through co-immunoprecipitation assays. They confirm the functional significance of these interactions by disrupting salt bridges at the Spn-E_Squ interface. The study further expands its scope to analyze approximately 430 oogenesis-related proteins, validating three additional interaction pairs. A comprehensive screen of around 12,000 Drosophila proteins for interactions with the key piRNA pathway player, Piwi, identifies 164 potential binding partners. Overall, the research demonstrates that in silico approaches using AlphaFold2 can link bioinformatics predictions with experimental validation, streamlining the identification of novel protein interactions and reducing the reliance on extensive experimental efforts. The manuscript is commendably clear and easy to follow; however, areas for improvement should be addressed to enhance its clarity and rigor.

Major Concerns:

(1) While AlphaFold2 was developed and trained primarily for predicting protein structures and their interactions, applying it to predict protein-protein interactions is an extrapolation of its intended use. This introduces several important considerations and risks. First, it assumes that AlphaFold's accuracy in structure prediction extends to interactions, despite not being explicitly trained for this task. Additionally, the assumption that high-scoring models with structural complementarity imply biologically relevant interactions is not always valid. Experimental validation is essential to address these uncertainties, as over-reliance on computational predictions without such validation can lead to false positives and inaccurate conclusions. The authors should expand on the assumptions, limitations, and risks associated with using AlphaFold2 for predicting protein-protein interactions.

(2) The authors experimentally validated three interactions, out of five predicted interactions, using co-immunoprecipitation (co-IP). They attributed the lack of validation for the other two predictions to the limitations of the co-IP method. However, further clarification on the potential limitations of the co-immunoprecipitation behind the negative results would strengthen the conclusions. While co-IP is a widely used technique, it may not detect weak or transient interactions, which could explain the failure to validate some predictions. Suggesting alternative validation methods such as FRET or mass spectrometry could further substantiate the results. On the other hand, AlphaFold2 predictions are not infallible and may generate false positives, particularly when dealing with structurally plausible but biologically irrelevant interactions. By acknowledging both the potential limitations of co-IP and the possibility of false positives from AlphaFold2, the authors can provide a more balanced interpretation of their findings.

(3) In line 143, the authors state that "This approach identified 13 pairs; seven of these were already known to form complexes, confirming the effectiveness of AlphaFold2 in predicting complex formations (Table 2). The highest pcScore pair was the Zuc homodimer, possibly because AlphaFold2 had learned from Zuc homodimer's crystal structure registered in the database." While the authors mentioned the presence of the Zuc homodimer's crystal structure, they do not provide a systematic bioinformatics analysis to evaluate pairwise sequence identity or check for the presence of existing structures for all the proteins or protein pairs (or their homologs) in databases such as the Protein Data Bank (PDB) or Swiss-Model. Conducting such an analysis is critical, as it significantly impacts the novelty and reliability of AlphaFold2 predictions. For instance, high sequence identity between the query proteins could lead to high-scoring models for biologically irrelevant interactions. Including this information would strengthen the conclusions regarding the accuracy and utility of the predictions.

(4) While the manuscript successfully identifies novel protein interactions, the broader biological significance of these interactions remains underexplored. The manuscript could benefit from elaborating on how these findings may contribute to understanding the piRNA pathway and its implications on germline development, transposon repression, and oogenesis.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this paper, the authors use AlphaFold2 to identify potential binding partners of nuage localizing proteins.

Strengths:

The main strength of the paper is that the authors experimentally verify a subset of the predicted interactions.

Many studies have been performed to predict protein-protein interactions in various subsets of proteins. The interesting story here is that the authors (i) focus on an organelle that contains quite some intrinsically disordered proteins and (ii) experimentally verify some (but not all) predictions.

Weaknesses:

Identification of pairwise interactions is only a first step towards understanding complex interactions. It is pretty clear from the predictions that some (but certainly not all) of the pairs could be used to build larger complexes. AlphaFold easily handles proteins up to 4-5000 residues, so this should be possible. I suggest that the authors do this to provide more biological insights.

Another weakness is the use of a non-standard name for "ranking confidence" - the author calls it the pcScore - while the name used in AlphaFold (and many other publications) is ranking confidence.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Through a series of CRISPR-Cas9 screens, the GPX4 antioxidant pathway was identified as a critical suppressor of cold-induced cell death in hibernator-derived cells. Hamster BHK-21 cells exposed to repeated cold and rewarming cycles revealed five genes (Gpx4, Eefsec, Pstk, Secisbp2, and Sepsecs) as critical components of the GPX4 pathway, which protects against cold-induced ferroptosis. A second screen with continuous cold exposure confirmed the essential role of GPX4 in prolonged cold tolerance. GPX4 knockout lines exhibited complete cell death within four days of cold exposure, and pharmacological inhibition of GPX4 further increased cell death, underscoring the necessity of GPX4's catalytic activity in cold conditions.

An additional CRISPR screen in human cold-sensitive K562 cells identified 176 genes for cold survival. The GPX4 pathway was found to confer significant resistance to cold in hibernators and human cells, with GPX4 loss significantly increasing cold-induced cell death.

Comparing hamster and human GPX4, overexpression of GPX4 in human K562 cells, whether hamster or human GPX4, dramatically improved cold tolerance, while catalytically dead mutants showed no such effect. These findings suggest that GPX4 abundance is a key limiting factor for cold tolerance in human cells, and primary cell types show strong sensitivity to GPX4 loss, highlighting that differences in cold tolerance across species may be due to varying GPX4-mediated protection.

Strengths:

(1) Innovative Approach: The study employs a series of unbiased genome-wide CRISPR-Cas9 screens in both hibernator- and non-hibernator-derived cells to investigate the mechanisms controlling cellular cold tolerance. Notably, this is the first genome-scale CRISPR-Cas9 screen conducted in cells derived from a hibernator, the Syrian hamster.

(2) Identification of the GPX4 Pathway: Identifying glutathione peroxidase 4 (GPX4) as a critical suppressor of cold-induced cell death significantly contributes to the field. Recently, GPX4 was also reported as a potent regulator of cold tolerance through overexpression screening (Sone et al.) in hamsters, which further supports this finding.

(3) Improved Cold Viability Assessment: The study identifies an important technical artifact in using trypan blue to assess cell viability following cold exposure. It reveals that cells stained immediately after cold exposure retain the dye, inaccurately indicating cell death. By introducing a brief rewarming period before viability assessment, the authors significantly improve the accuracy of detecting cold-induced cell death. This refinement in methodology ensures more reliable results and sets a new standard for future research on cold stress in cells.

Weaknesses:

(1) Mechanisms Regulating GPX4 Levels: While the study highlights GPX4 levels as a major determinant of cellular cold tolerance, it does not discuss how these levels are regulated or why they differ between hibernators and non-hibernators. This omission leaves an important aspect of GPX4's role in cold tolerance unexplored.

(2) Generalizability Across Species: Although the study demonstrates the role of GPX4 in several mammalian species, it does not investigate whether this mechanism extends to other vertebrates (e.g., fish and amphibians) that also face cold challenges. This limitation could restrict the broader evolutionary claims made by the study.

(3) Variability in Cold Sensitivity Across Human Cell Lines: The study observes significant variability in cold tolerance among different human cell lines but does not explain these differences clearly. This leaves a key aspect of human cell cold sensitivity insufficiently addressed.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Lam et al., present a very intriguing whole genome CRISPR screen in Syrian Hamster cells as well as K562 cells to identify key genes involved in hypothermia-rewarming tolerance. Survival screens were performed by exposing cells to 4C in a cooled CO2 incubator followed by a rewarming period of 30 minutes prior to survival analysis. In this paradigm, Syrian hamster-derived cell lines exhibit more robust survival than human cell lines (BHK-21 and HaK vs HT1080, HeLa, RPE1, and K562). A genome-wide Syrian hamster CRISPR library was created targeting all annotated genes with 10 guides/gene. LV transduction of the library was performed in BHK-21 cells and the survival screen procedures involved 3 cycles of 4C cold exposure x4 days followed by 2 days of re-warming.

When compared to controls maintained at 37C, 9 genes were required for BHK-21 survival of cold cycling conditions and 5 of these 9 are known components of the GPX4 antioxidant pathway. GPX4 KO BHK-21 cells had reduced cell growth at 37C and profoundly worse cold tolerance which could be reduced by GPX4 expression. GPX4 inhibitors also reduced survival in cold. CRISPR KO screens and GPX4 KO in K562 cells revealed comparable results (though intriguingly glutathione biosynthesis genes were more critical to K562 cells than BHK-21 cells). Human or Syrian hamster GPX4 overexpression improved cold tolerance.

Strengths:

This is a very nicely written paper that clearly communicates in figures and text complicated experimental manipulations and in vitro genetic screening and cell survival data. The focus on GPX4 is interesting and relatively novel. The converging pharmacologic, loss-of-function, and gain-of-function experiments are also a strength.

Weaknesses:

A recently published article (Reference 43, Sone et al.) also independently explored the role of GPX4 in Syrian hamster cold tolerance through gain-of-function screening. Further exploration of the GPX4 species-specific mechanisms would be of great interest, but this is considered a minor weakness given the already very comprehensive and compelling data presented.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This work aims to address a fundamental biological question: how do mammalian cells achieve/lose tolerance to cold exposure? The authors first tried to establish an experimental system for cell cold exposure and evaluation of cell death and then performed genome-scale CRISPR-Cas9 screening on immortalized cell lines from Syrian Hamster (BHK-21) and human (K562) for key genes that are associated with cell survival during prolonged cold exposure. From these screenings, they focused on glutathione peroxidase 4 (GPX4). Using genetic modifications or pharmacological interventions, and multiple cell models including primary cells from various mammalian species, they showed that GPX4 proteins are likely to retain their activities at 4 {degree sign}C, functioning to prevent cold-induced cell ferroptosis.

Strengths:

(1) This paper is neatly written and hence easy to follow.

(2) Experiments are well designed.

(3) The data showing the overall good cell survival after a prolonged cold exposure or repeated cold-warm cycles are helpful to show the advantages of the experimental instruments and methods the authors used, and hence the validity of their results.

(4) The CRISPR-Cas9 screening is a great attempt.

(5) Multiple cell types from hibernating mammals (cold tolerant) and cold-intolerant species are used to test their findings.

(6) Although some may argue that other labs have published works with different approaches that have pointed out the importance of GPX4 and ferroptosis in hamster cell survival from anoxia-reoxygenation or cold exposure models, hence hurting the novelty of this work, this reviewer thinks that it is highly valuable to have independent research groups and different methods/systems to validate an important concept.

Weaknesses:

(1) Only cell death was robustly surveyed; though cell proliferation was evaluated too in some experiments, other cellular functions, such as mitochondrial ATP production vs. glycolysis, and the extent of lipid peroxidation, could have been measured to reflect cellular physiology.

Validations on complex tissues or in vivo systems would have further strengthened the work and its impact.

CRISPR-Cas9 screening may have technical limitations as knock-out of some essential genes/pathways may lead to cell lethality during screening, and hence the relevance of these genes/pathways to cell cold tolerance may not be noted. From the data presented in this study, this reviewer thinks that the GPX4 pathway is likely a conserved mechanism for long-term cold survival, but not for cold sensitivity or acute cell death from cold exposure. In line with my such speculation, their CRISPR-Cas9 screening revealed genes in the GPX4 pathway from a relatively cold-sensitive human cell line, but the endogenous GPX4 pathway is seemingly operational in this cold-sensitive cell line. Also, these cells are viable after GPX4 knock-out. Dead cells from the acute cold exposure phase may detached, or their genomic DNAs have been severely damaged by the time of sample collection, hence not giving any meaningful sequencing reads. Crippling other factors/pathways such as FOXO1 (PMID: 38570500) or 5-aminolevulinic acid (ALA) metabolism (PMID: 35401816) have been shown to severely aggravate cold-induced cell death, including TUNEL-revealed DNA damage, within a much shorter time scale, whilst loss-function knockouts of FOXO1 or ALA Synthase 1 (ALAS1) are usually cell lethal. Thus, they and other possible essential genes may not be screenable from the current experimental protocol. These important points need to be taken into consideration by the authors.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This is an important and very well-presented set of experiments following up on prior work from the lab investigating knock-down (KD) of EMC10 in the restoration of neuronal and cognitive deficits in 22q11.2 Del models, including now both human iPSCs and a mouse model in vivo now with ASOs.

The valuable progress in this current manuscript is the development of ASOs, and the proof of efficacy in vivo in mice of the ASO in knock-down of EMC10 and amelioration of in vivo behavioral phenotypes.

The experiments include iPSC studies demonstrating elevations of EMC10 in a solid collection of paired iPSC lines. These studies also provide evidence of manipulation of EMC10 by overexpression and inhibition of miRNAs that exist in the 22q11 interval. The iPSC studies also nicely demonstrate the rescue of impairments with KD of EMC10 in neuronal arborization as well as KCl-induced neuronal activity. The major in vivo contributions reflect an impressive demonstration of the efficacy of two ASOs in vivo on both KD of EMC10 in vivo and through improvement in behavioral abnormalities in the 22q11 mouse in a range of different behaviors, including social behavior and learning behaviors.

Overall, there are many strengths reflected in this study, including in particular the synergy between in vitro studies in human cell models and in vivo studies in the well-characterized mouse model. The experiments are generally rigorously performed, well-powered, and nicely presented. The claims with regard to the mechanisms of EMC10 elevations and the importance of restoration of EMC10 expression to neuronal morphology and behavior are well supported by the data. The work may be further supported in future studies, by investigation of rescue by ASOs of circuit dysfunction in vivo or ex vivo through electrophysiology in the mouse model. Also, in future studies, investigation of the mechanism by which EMC10, an ER protein involved in protein processing, may function in the observed neuronal abnormalities; however, these studies are clearly for future investigations.

The potential impact of the work is found in the potential value of the ASO approach to the treatment of 22q11, or the pre-clinical evidence that knock-down of this protein may lead to some amelioration of cognitive symptoms. Overall, a very convincing and complementary set of experiments to support EMC10 KD as a therapeutic strategy.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Thakur et. al seeks to establish a novel ASO-based approach to treat 22q11.2 deletion syndrome. Central to this thesis is that an ER membrane complex member called EMC10 is significantly increased in the disorder, which is largely attributed to the loss of miRNA-mediated repression. The authors generated three new iPSC cell lines for the disorder and showed that deletion of EMC10 rescues morphology and Ca-flux deficits. They go on to show that post-symptomatic deletion of Emc10 in mice using a conditional-off tamoxifen allele reverses social memory phenotypes. Finally, in collaboration with Ionis, they developed two new ASOs to knock down EMC10 and show that social and spatial memory phenotypes are rescued, even two months after injection.

Strengths:

In general, this represents a substantial undertaking and an impressive body of work. The experiments follow a logical progression and in most cases are well-controlled. The isolation of EMC10 effects relative to the broader miRNA disruption is viewed as impactful. The use of both genetic and ASO approaches to validate the therapeutic strategy is also viewed as highly positive. The authors' contention that EMC10 can be targeted at post-symptomatic time points to reverse 22q11.2 deletion syndrome is supported by the data. Further, they have provided a therapeutic mechanism to do so. These findings are likely to be impactful and lead to further development efforts.

Weaknesses:

The primary weaknesses of the manuscript lie in incomplete or inappropriate data analysis, as well as a failure to validate key experiments. For example, both genetic and ASO-mediated EMC10-mediated reductions are assessed at the level of mRNA, but only one experiment, in one brain region, is validated at the protein level. This brain region is the PFC, which is problematic when many of the phenotypes used have a strong hippocampal component. Likewise, the iPSC experiments make the case that excitatory neurons are central to the phenotype, but no effort is made to show that the ASOs are entering that type of neuron, or even any quantification of what percentage of cells in the target brain regions (HPC, PFC, etc.) are positive for the ASO. There is only a single image provided of staining with a phosphorothioate antibody and a claim of robust uptake, which cannot be assumed. The iPSC transcriptomics work would also benefit from a more comprehensive comparison between the EMC10 knockout lines and their parent 22q11 deletion lines. Further, there are other examples where the statistics used are either wrong (Figure 3 t-test vs ANOVA) or missing (Figure S2). These technical and analytical shortcomings make it challenging to fully interpret the data and detract from an otherwise exciting manuscript.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Chang and colleagues used tetrode recordings in behaving rats to study how learning an audiovisual discrimination task shapes multisensory interactions in the auditory cortex. They found that a significant fraction of neurons in the auditory cortex responded to visual (crossmodal) and audiovisual stimuli. Both auditory-responsive and visually-responsive neurons preferentially responded to the cue signaling the contralateral choice in the two-alternative forced choice task. Importantly, multisensory interactions were similarly specific for the congruent audiovisual pairing for the contralateral side.

Strengths:

The experiments were conducted in a rigorous manner. Particularly thorough are the comparisons across cohorts of rats trained in a control task, in a unisensory auditory discrimination task, and the multisensory task, while also varying the recording hemisphere and behavioral state (engaged vs. anesthesia). The resulting contrasts strengthen the authors' findings and rule out important alternative explanations. Through the comparisons, they show that the enhancements of multisensory responses in the auditory cortex are specific to the paired audiovisual stimulus and specific to contralateral choices in correct trials and thus dependent on learned associations in a task-engaged state.

Weaknesses:

The main result is that multisensory interactions are specific for contralateral paired audiovisual stimuli, which is consistent across experiments and interpretable as a learned task-dependent effect. However, the alternative interpretation of behavioral signals is crucial to rule out, which would also be specific to contralateral, correct trials in trained animals. Although the authors focus on the first 150 ms after cue onset, some of the temporal profiles of activity suggest that choice-related activity could confound some of the results.

The auditory stimuli appear to be encoded by short transient activity (in line with much of what we know about the auditory system), likely with onset latencies (not reported) of 15-30 ms. Stimulus identity can be decoded (Figure 2j) apparently with an onset latency around 50-75 ms (only the difference between A and AV groups is reported) and can be decoded near perfectly for an extended time window, without a dip in decoding performance that is observed in the mean activity Figure 2e. The dynamics of the response of the example neurons presented in Figures 2c and d and the average in 2e therefore do not entirely match the population decoding profile in 2j. Population decoding uses the population activity distribution, rather than the mean, so this is not inherently problematic. It suggests however that the stimulus identity can be decoded from later (choice-related?) activity. The dynamics of the population decoding accuracy are in line with the dynamics one could expect based on choice-related activity. Also the results in Figures S2e,f suggest differences between the two learned stimuli can be in the late phase of the response, not in the early phase.

First, it would help to have the same time axis across panels 2,c,d,e,j,k. Second, a careful temporal dissociation of when the central result of multisensory enhancements occurs in time would discriminate better early sensory processing-related effects versus later decision-related modulations.

In the abstract, the authors mention "a unique integration model", "selective multisensory enhancement for specific auditory-visual pairings", and "using this distinct integrative mechanisms". I would strongly recommend that the authors try to phrase their results more concretely, which I believe would benefit many readers, i.e. selective how (which neurons) and specific for which pairings?

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary

In this study, rats were trained to discriminate auditory frequency and visual form/orientation for both unisensory and coherently presented AV stimuli. Recordings were made in the auditory cortex during behaviour and compared to those obtained in various control animals/conditions. The central finding is that AC neurons preferentially represent the contralateral-conditioned stimulus - for the main animal cohort this was a 10k tone and a vertically oriented bar. Over 1/3rd of neurons in AC were either AV/V/A+V and while a variety of multisensory neurons were recorded, the dominant response was excitation by the correctly oriented visual stimulus (interestingly this preference was absent in the visual-only neurons). Animals performing a simple version of the task in which responses were contingent on the presence of a stimulus rather than its identity showed a smaller proportion of AV stimuli and did not exhibit a preference for contralateral conditioned stimuli. The contralateral conditioned dominance was substantially less under anesthesia in the trained animals and was present in a cohort of animals trained with the reverse left/right contingency. Population decoding showed that visual cues did not increase the performance of the decoder but accelerated the rate at which it saturated. Rats trained on auditory and then visual stimuli (rather than simultaneously with A/V/AV) showed many fewer integrative neurons.

Strengths

There is a lot that I like about this paper - the study is well-powered with multiple groups (free choice, reversed contingency, unisensory trained, anesthesia) which provides a lot of strength to their conclusions and there are many interesting details within the paper itself. Surprisingly few studies have attempted to address whether multisensory responses in the unisensory cortex contribute to behaviour - and the main one that attempted to address this question (Lemus et al., 2010, uncited by this study) showed that while present in AC, somatosensory responses did not appear to contribute to perception. The present manuscript suggests otherwise and critically does so in the context of a task in which animals exhibit a multisensory advantage (this was lacking in Lemus et al.,). The behaviour is robust, with AV stimuli eliciting superior performance to either auditory or visual unisensory stimuli (visual were slightly worse than auditory but both were well above chance).

Weaknesses

I have a number of points that in my opinion require clarification and I have suggestions for ways in which the paper could be strengthened. In addition to these points, I admit to being slightly baffled by the response latencies; while I am not an expert in the rat, usually in the early sensory cortex auditory responses are significantly faster than visual ones (mirroring the relative first spike latencies of A1 and V1 and the different transduction mechanisms in the cochlea and retina). Yet here, the latencies look identical - if I draw a line down the pdf on the population level responses the peak of the visual and auditory is indistinguishable. This makes me wonder whether these are not sensory responses - yet, they look sensory (very tightly stimulus-locked). Are these latencies a consequence of this being AuD and not A1, or ... ? Have the authors performed movement-triggered analysis to illustrate that these responses are not related to movement out of the central port, or is it possible that both sounds and visual stimuli elicit characteristic whisking movements? Lastly, has the latency of the signals been measured (i.e. you generate and play them out synchronously, but is it possible that there is a delay on the audio channel introduced by the amp, which in turn makes it appear as if the neural signals are synchronous? If the latter were the case I wouldn't see it as a problem as many studies use a temporal offset in order to give the best chance of aligning signals in the brain, but this is such an obvious difference from what we would expect in other species that it requires some sort of explanation.

Reaction times were faster in the AV condition - it would be of interest to know whether this acceleration is sufficient to violate a race model, given the arbitrary pairing of these stimuli. This would give some insight into whether the animals are really integrating the sensory information. It would also be good to clarify whether the reaction time is the time taken to leave the center port or respond at the peripheral one.

The manuscript is very vague about the origin or responses - are these in AuD, A1, AuV... ? Some attempts to separate out responses if possible by laminar depth and certainly by field are necessary. It is known from other species that multisensory responses are more numerous, and show greater behavioural modulation in non-primary areas (e.g. Atilgan et al., 2018).

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Chang et al. aims to investigate how the behavioral relevance of auditory and visual stimuli influences the way in which the primary auditory cortex encodes auditory, visual, and audiovisual information. The main result is that behavioral training induces an increase in the encoding of auditory and visual information and in multisensory enhancement that is mainly related to the choice located contralaterally with respect to the recorded hemisphere.

Strengths:

The manuscript reports the results of an elegant and well-planned experiment meant to investigate if the auditory cortex encodes visual information and how learning shapes visual responsiveness in the auditory cortex. Analyses are typically well done and properly address the questions raised

Weaknesses:

Major

(1) The authors apparently primarily focus their analyses of sensory-evoked responses in approximately the first 100 ms following stimulus onset. Even if I could not find an indication of which precise temporal range the authors used for analysis in the manuscript, this is the range where sensory-evoked responses are shown to occur in the manuscript figures. While this is a reasonable range for auditory evoked responses, the same cannot be said for visual responses, which commonly peak around 100-120 ms, in V1. In fact, the latency and overall shape of visual responses are quite different from typical visual responses, that are commonly shown to display a delay of up to 100 ms with respect to auditory responses. All traces that the authors show, instead, display visual responses strikingly overlapping with auditory ones, which is not in line with what one would expect based on our physiological understanding of cortical visually-evoked responses. Similarly, the fact that the onset of decoding accuracy (Figure 2j) anticipates during multisensory compared to auditory-only trials is hard to reconcile with the fact that visual responses have a later onset latency compared to auditory ones. The authors thus need to provide unequivocal evidence that the results they observe are truly visual in origin. This is especially important in view of the ever-growing literature showing that sensory cortices encode signals representing spontaneous motor actions, but also other forms of non-sensory information that can be taken prima facie to be of sensory origin. This is a problem that only now we realize has affected a lot of early literature, especially - but not only - in the field of multisensory processing. It is thus imperative that the authors provide evidence supporting the true visual nature of the activity reported during auditory and multisensory conditions, in both trained, free-choice, and anesthetised conditions. This could for example be achieved causally (e.g. via optogenetics) to provide the strongest evidence about the visual nature of the reported results, but it's up to the authors to identify a viable solution. This also applies to the enhancement of matched stimuli, that could potentially be explained in terms of spontaneous motor activity and/or pre-motor influences. In the absence of this evidence, I would discourage the author from drawing any conclusion about the visual nature of the observed activity in the auditory cortex.

(2) The finding that AC neurons in trained mice preferentially respond - and enhance - auditory and visual responses pertaining to the contralateral choice is interesting, but the study does not show evidence for the functional relevance of this phenomenon. As has become more and more evident over the past few years (see e.g. the literature on mouse PPC), correlated neural activity is not an indication of functional role. Therefore, in the absence of causal evidence, the functional role of the reported AC correlates should not be overstated by the authors. My opinion is that, starting from the title, the authors need to much more carefully discuss the implications of their findings.

MINOR:

(1) The manuscript is lacking what pertains to the revised interpretation of most studies about audiovisual interactions in primary sensory cortices following the recent studies revealing that most of what was considered to be crossmodal actually reflects motor aspects. In particular, recent evidence suggests that sensory-induced spontaneous motor responses may have a surprisingly fast latency (within 40 ms; Clayton et al. 2024). Such responses might also underlie the contralaterally-tuned responses observed by the authors if one assumes that mice learn a stereotypical response that is primed by the upcoming goal-directed, learned response. Given that a full exploration of this issue would require high-speed tracking of orofacial and body motions, the authors should at least revise the discussion and the possible interpretation of their results not just on the basis of the literature, but after carefully revising the literature in view of the most recent findings, that challenge earlier interpretations of experimental results.

(2) The methods section is a bit lacking in details. For instance, information about the temporal window of analysis for sensory-evoked responses is lacking. Another example: for the spike sorting procedure, limited details are given about inclusion/exclusion criteria. This makes it hard to navigate the manuscript and fully understand the experimental paradigm. I would recommend critically revising and expanding the methods section.

Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

The authors investigate the role of chirping in a species of weakly electric fish. They subject the fish to various scenarios and correlate the production of chirps with many different factors. They find major correlations between the background beat signals (continuously present during any social interactions) or some aspects of social and environmental conditions with the propensity to produce different types of chirps. By analyzing more specifically different aspects of these correlations they conclude that chirping patterns are related to navigation purposes and the need to localize the source of the beat signal (i.e. the location of the conspecific).

The study provides a wealth of interesting observations of behavior and much of this data constitutes a useful dataset to document the patterns of social interactions in these fish. Some data, in particular the high propensity to chirp in cluttered environments, raises interesting questions. Their main hypothesis is a useful addition to the debate on the function of these chirps and is worth being considered and explored further.

After the initial reviewers' comments, the authors performed a welcome revision of the way the results are presented. Overall the study has been improved by the revisions.

Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

Studying Apteronotus leptorhynchus (the weakly electric brown ghost knifefish), the authors provide evidence that 'chirps' (brief modulations in the frequency and amplitude of the ongoing wave-like electric signal) function in active sensing (specifically homeoactive sensing) rather than communication. Chirping is a behavior that has been well studied, including numerous studies on the sensory coding of chirps and the neural mechanisms for chirp generation. Chirps are largely thought to function in communication behavior, so this alternative function is a very exciting possibility that should have a great impact on the field.

The authors provide convincing evidence that chirps may function in homeoactive sensing. In particular, the evidence showing increased chirping in more cluttered environments and a relationship between chirping and movement are especially strong and suggestive. Their evidence arguing against a role for chirps in communication is not as strong. However, based on an extensive review of the literature, the authors conclude, I think fairly, that the evidence arguing in favor of a communication function is limited and inconclusive. Thus, the real strength of this study is not that it conclusively refutes the communication hypothesis, but that it calls this hypothesis into question while also providing compelling evidence in favor of an alternative function.

In summary, although the evidence against a role for chirps in communication is not as strong as the evidence for a role in active sensing, this study presents very interesting data that is sure to stimulate discussion and follow-up studies. The authors acknowledge that chirps could function as both a communication and homeactive sensing signal, and the language arguing against a communication function is appropriately measured. A given electrical behavior could serve both communication and homeoactive sensing. I suspect this is quite common in electric fish (not just in gymnotiforms such as the species studied here, but also in the distantly related mormyrids), and perhaps in other actively sensing species such as echolocating animals.

Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

Summary:

This important paper provides the best-to-date characterization of chirping in weakly electric fish using a large number of variables. These include environment (free vs divided fish, with or without clutter), breeding state, gender, intruder vs resident, social status, locomotion state and social and environmental experience, without and with playback experiments. It applies state-of-the-art methods for reducing the dimensionality of the data and finding patterns of correlation between different kinds of variables (factor analysis, K-means). The strength of the evidence, collated from a large number of trials with many controls, leads to the conclusion that the traditionally assumed communication function of chirps may be secondary to its role in environmental assessment and exploration that takes social context into account. Based on their extensive analyses, the authors suggest that chirps are mainly used as probes that help detect beats caused by other fish as well as objects.

Strengths:

The work is based on completely novel recordings using interaction chambers. The amount of new data and associated analyses is simply staggering, and yet, well organized in presentation. The study further evaluates the electric field strength around a fish (via modelling with the boundary element method) and how its decay parallels the chirp rate, thereby relating the above variables to electric field geometry. The BEM modelling also convincingly predicts how the electric image of a receiver conspecific on a sending fish is enhanced by a chirp.

The main conclusions are that the lack of any significant behavioural correlates for chirping, and the lack of temporal patterning in chirp time series, cast doubt on a primary communication goal for most chirps. Rather, the key determinants of chirping are the difference in frequency between two interacting conspecifics as well as individual subjects' environmental and social experience. The paper concludes that there is a lack of evidence for stereotyped temporal patterning of chirp time series, as well as of sender-receiver chirp transitions beyond the known increase in chirp frequency during an interaction. The authors carefully submit that the new putative echolocation function of chirps is not mutually exclusive with a possible communication function.

These conclusions by themselves will be very useful to the field. They will also allow scientists working on other "communication" systems to perhaps reconsider and expand the goals of the probes used in those senses. A lot of data are summarized in this paper, with thorough referencing to past work.

The alternative hypotheses that arise from the work are that chirps are mainly used as environmental probes for better beat detection and processing and object localization, and in this sense are self-directed signals. This led to their prediction that environmental complexity ("clutter") should increase chirp rate, which is fact was revealed by their new experiments. The authors also argue that waveform EODs have less power across high spatial frequencies compared to pulse-type fish, with a resulting relatively impoverished power of resolution. Chirping in wave-type fish could temporarily compensate for the lower frequency resolution while still being able to resolve EOD perturbations with a good temporal definition (which pulse-type fish lack due to low pulse rates).

The authors also advance the interesting idea that the sinusoidal frequency modulations caused by chirps are the electric fish's solution to the minute (and undetectable by neural wetware) echo-delays available to it, due to the propagation of electric fields at the speed of light in water. The paper provides a number of experimental avenues to pursue in order to validate the non-communication role of chirps.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript the authors have tried to dissect the functions of Proteasome activator 28γ (PA28γ) which is known to activate proteosomal function in an ATP independent manner. Although there are multiple works that have highlighted the role of this protein in tumour, this study specifically tried to develop a correlate with Complement C1q binding protein (C1QBp) that is associated with immune response and energy homeostasis.

Strengths:

The observations of the authors hint that beyond PA28y association with proteasome, it might also stabilize certain proteins such as C1QBP which influences the energy metabolism.

Weaknesses:

The strength of the work also becomes its main drawback. That is, how PA28y stabilizes C1QBP or how C1QBP elicits its pro-tumourigenic role under PA28y OE.

In most of the experiments the authors have been dependent on the parallel changes in the expression of both the proteins to justify their stabilizing interaction. However, this approach is indirect at best and does not confirm the direct stabilizing effect of this interaction. IP experiments do not indicate direct interaction and have some quality issues. The upregulation of C1QBP might be indirect at best. It is quite possible that PA28y might be degrading some secondary protein/complex which is responsible for C1QBP expression. Since the core idea of the work is PA28y direct interaction with C1QBP stabilizing it, the same should be demonstrated in more convincing manner.

In all of the assays C1QBP has been detected as doublet. However, the expression pattern of the two bands vary depending on the experiment. In some cases the upper band is intensely stained and in some the lower bands. Does C1QBP isoforms exist and whether they are differentially regulated depending on experiment conditions/tissue types?

Problems with the background of the work: Line 76. This statement is far-fetched. There are presently a number of literatures that have dealt with metabolic programming of OSCC including identification of specific metabolites. Moreover, beyond estimation of OCR, the authors have not conducted any experiments related to metabolism. In the Introduction, significance of this study and how it will extend our understanding of OSCC needs to be elaborated.

Review of Revised Version:

Although the authors have partly corrected the manuscript by removing the mislabeling in their Co-IP experiments, my primary concern on the actual functional connotations and direct interaction between PA28y and C1QBP still remains unaddressed. As already mentioned in my previous review, since the core idea of the work is PA28y's direct interaction with C1QBP, stabilizing it, the same should be demonstrated in a more convincing manner.

My other observation on the detection of C1QBP as a doublet has been addressed by usage of anti-C1QBP Monoclonal antibody against the polyclonal one used before. C1QBP doublets have not been observed in the present case.

The authors have also worked on the presentation of the background by suitably modifying the statements and incorporating appropriate citations.

However, the authors are requested to follow the recommendations provided to them by the reviewers to address the major concerns.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors tried to determine how PA28g functions in oral squamous cell carcinoma (OSCC) cells. They hypothesized it may act through metabolic reprogramming in the mitochondria.

Strengths:

They found that the genes of PA28g and C1QBP are in an overlapping interaction network after an analysis of a genome database. They also found that the two proteins interact in coimmunoprecipitation and pull-down assays using the lysate from OSCC cells with or without expression of the exogenous genes. They used truncated C1QBP proteins to map the interaction site to the N-terminal 167 residues of C1QBP protein. They observed the levels of the two proteins are positively correlated in the cells. They provided evidence for the colocalization of the two proteins in the mitochondria and the effect on mitochondrial form and function in vitro and in vivo OSCC models, and the correlation of the protein expression with the prognosis of cancer patients.

Weaknesses:

Many data sets are shown in figures that cannot be understood without more descriptions either in the text or the legend, e.g., Fig. 1A. Similarly, many abbreviations are not defined.

The revision addressed these issues.

Some of the pull-down and coimmunoprecipitation data do not support the conclusion about the PA28g-C1QBP interaction. For example, in Appendix Fig. 1B the Flag-C1QBP was detected in the Myc beads pull-down when the protein was expressed in the 293T cells without the Myc-PA28g, suggesting that the pull-down was not due to the interaction of the C1QBP and PA28g proteins. In Appendix Fig. 1C, assume the SFB stands for a biotin tag, then the SFB-PA28g should be detected in the cells expressing this protein after pull-down by streptavidin; however, it was not. The Western blot data in Fig. 1E and many other figures must be quantified before any conclusions about the levels of proteins can be drawn.

The revision addressed these problems.

The immunoprecipitation method is flawed as it is described. The antigen (PA28g or C1QBP) should bind to the respective antibody that in turn should binds to Protein G beads. The resulting immunocomplex should end up in the pellet fraction after centrifugation, and analyzed further by Western blot for coprecipitates. However, the method in the Appendix states that the supernatant was used for the Western blot.

The revision corrected this method.

To conclude that PA28g stabilizes C1QBP through their physical interaction in the cells, one must show whether a protease inhibitor can substitute PA28q and prevent C1QBP degradation, and also show whether a mutation that disrupt the PA28g-C1QBP interaction can reduce the stability of C1QBP. In Fig. 1F, all cells expressed Myc-PA28g. Therefore, the conclusion that PA28g prevented C1QBP degradation cannot be reached. Instead, since more Myc-PA28g was detected in the cells expressing Flag-C1QBP compared to the cells not expressing this protein, a conclusion would be that the C1QBP stabilized the PA28g. Fig. 1G is a quantification of a Western blot data that should be shown.

The binding site for PA28g in C1QBP was mapped to the N-terminal 167 residues using truncated proteins. One caveat would be that some truncated proteins did not fold correctly in the absence of the sequence that was removed. Thus, the C-terminal region of the C1QBP with residues 168-283 may still bind to the PA29g in the context of full-length protein. In Fig. 1I, more Flag-C1QBP 1-167 was pull-down by Myc-PA28g than the full-length protein or the Flag-C1QBP 1-213. Why?

The interaction site in PA28g for C1QBP was not mapped, which prevents further analysis of the interaction. Also, if the interaction domain can be determined, structural modeling of the complex would be feasible using AlphaFold2 or other programs. Then, it is possible to test point mutations that may disrupt the interaction and if so, the functional effect.

The revision added AlphaFold models for the protein interaction. However, the models were not analyzed and potential mutations that would disrupt the interact were not predicted, made and tested. The revision did not addressed the request for the protease inhibitor.

Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Poltavski and colleagues describes the discovery of previously unreported enteric neural crest-derived cells (ENCDC) which are marked by Pax2 and originating from the Placodes. By creating multiple conditional mouse mutants, the authors demonstrate these cells are a distinct population from the previously reported ENCDCs which originate from the Vagal neural crest cells and express Wnt1.

These Pax2-positive ENCDCs are affected due to the loss of both Ret and Ednrb highlighting that these cells are also ultimately part of the canonical processes governing ENCDC and enteric nervous system (ENS) development. The authors also make explant cultures from the mouse GI tract to detect how Ednrb signaling is important for Ret signaling pathways in these cells and rediscovers the interactions between these 2 pathways. One important observation the authors make is that CGRP-positive neurons in the adult distal colon seem to be primarily derived from these Pax2-positive ENCDCs, which are significantly reduced in the Ednrb mutants, thus highlighting the role of Ednrb in maintaining this neuronal type.

Comments on latest version:

Author response: We disagree that the datasets from previous studies provide additional insights that are relevant to the current study. It must be appreciated that Wnt1Cre and Pax2Cre are genetic lineage tracers and that migratory ENS progenitor cells labeled with these reagents do not maintain expression of Wnt1 and Pax2 mRNA or protein. The Wnt1 and Pax2 genes are only transiently expressed within their distinct regions of the ectoderm, and their expression turns off as cells delaminate and begin migration. Thus, Pax2Cre-labeled ENS progenitor cells are not Pax2-positive thereafter. The single cell RNA-Seq studies suggested by the reviewer were collected from older embryos and postnatal mice, and do not represent the E10.5-E11.5 period that accounts for genesis of Ret-mediated and Ednrb-mediated Hirschsprung disease pathology. Even with the most recent work by Zhou et al (Dev Cell, 2024) that included E10.5 cells, this analysis only evaluated neural crest-derived Sox10Cre lineage cells, which does not include the placode-derived Pax2Cre lineage (as we show explicitly in Fig. 2-figure supplement 2). Consequently, it would not be possible to find the "Pax2-positive cells" in these datasets. Performing a new transcriptomic analysis by isolating Pax2Cre-lineage and Wnt1Cre-lineage cells at the appropriate developmental time points could be the basis of future studies, but we think these are beyond the scope of the present paper.

Reviewer comment: Since these cells are a completely new discovery, additional validation would be beneficial. Whole early GI tract datasets are available, such as human 6-week fetal gut data (PMID: 29802404) and whole mouse embryo studies spanning development that include ENS (PMID: 38355799). If the authors believe that none of these existing datasets can detect these cells in their developmental state and that targeted cell studies with specific Cre drivers would be required, they should make this explicitly clear.

A key advantage of discovering a new cell type, particularly in the relatively understudied field of ENS, is the opportunity for the broader community to leverage this finding to inform their own research. If these cells are absent from current datasets, even those covering the whole GI tract, this should be clearly communicated.

I aim to support the authors here. New discoveries in science require robust validation to enhance their impact. The authors have generated an important reagent with great potential for broader use, and addressing these straightforward requests would strengthen the study and make it more valuable to the scientific community.

Author response: The observation that human mutations in RET and EDNRB both cause Hirschsprung disease is decades old, and of course numerous studies in human, mouse, and cells have addressed the relation between the two signaling pathways. We did not mean to imply that we were the first to discover that Ret and Ednrb signaling pathways interact. The reviewer cites a number of papers all from the Chakravarti lab that address this phenomenon; while these are a valuable contribution to the field, there is still more to be learned. The model elaborated in PMID: 31313802, in which Ret and Ednrb are both enmeshed in a common gene regulatory network, does not readily explain why each has a different phenotypic manifestation and doesn't take into account the importance of the placodal lineage. The main new contributions of our paper are the existence of a new cell lineage that contributes to the ENS, and that the placodal and neural crest lineages utilize Ret and Ednrb signaling differently. The clarification of how these elements are differentially used by the two lineages explains long-segment and short-segment Hirschsprung disease (Ret and Ednrb mutants, respectively) far better than in past studies. The reviewer unfortunately dismisses these insights and seems to feel that a biochemical exploration of one specific component of the signaling interaction (Y1015 phosphorylation) would be more relevant. This should be the basis of future studies and are beyond the scope of the new findings reported in the present paper

Reviewer comment: The authors completely miss the point. There is no association between phenotypic severity (L-HSCR, S-HSCR, or TCA) and mutations in a given gene in HSCR. EDNRB, for example, has a syndromic association with Waardenburg-Shah syndrome (WS4-A), which includes pigmentation anomalies due to EDNRB expression in neural crest cells that give rise to pigment cells.

The authors' discovery reinforces the current paradigm that nearly all HSCR is mediated by mutations in genes within the GRN, accounting for 72% of the population attributable risk. This is valuable; reinforcing established paradigms with new data is crucial, and the authors should appreciate the significance of this contribution.

The discovery of the signaling interaction is particularly important, as it offers a potential explanation for disease severity and provides a basis for classifying patients in future sequencing studies. It is surprising that the authors seem reluctant to highlight this novel finding, as it could greatly benefit future research, including the development of specific mouse mutants and advancing human genetics studies.

Author response: The reviewer overlooked that one of the review articles that we cited (Chen, Hsu, & Hung, 2020) has a dedicated paragraph for RET (section 3.14), which summarizes the work by Barheri-Yarmand et al (PMID: 25795775) which is the very paper noted by the reviewer in the comment above. The reviewer also somewhat misstated the results of the Barheri-Yarmand et al study. By immunostaining, this paper showed nuclear localization of endogenous Ret, albeit a version of Ret with a disease-associated mutation that makes it constitutively active by constitutive autophosphorylation. Nonetheless, this was endogenous Ret. The paper also used overexpression of GFP-tagged RET in HEK293 cells to show that wildtype RET can behave in a similar manner, at least under these circumstances. Our point is simply that Ret (and other receptor tyrosine kinases) can be found in the nucleus in certain biological contexts, and our observations are consistent with this precedent. The reviewer also suggests a biochemical follow-up analysis related to this observation, which we agree would be of interest. Such an investigation however is beyond the scope of the present study.

Reviewer comment: As the authors themselves now highlight from the cited paper that any evidence of RET entering the nucleus is of a mutant RET protein, How does this align with their discovery for wildtype protein?

This finding of nuclear localization of RET is both intriguing and unprecedented. Despite extensive biochemical studies on RET, given its role as an oncogene, this feature has not been identified before. If validated, this discovery could significantly advance the field and improve interpretation of future studies. I reiterate my previous point: a novel finding that challenges the current paradigm requires additional evidence.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript by Poltavski and colleagues explores the relative contributions of Pax2- and Wnt1- lineage derived cells in the enteric nervous system (ENS) and how they are each affected by disruptions in Ret and Endrb signaling. The current understanding of ENS development in mice is that vagal neural crest progenitors derived from a Wnt1+ lineage migrate into and colonize the developing gut. The sacral neural crest was thought to make a small contribution to the hindgut in addition but recent work has questioned that contribution and shown that the ENS is entirely populated by vagal crest (PMID: 38452824). GDNF-Ret and Endothelin3-Ednrb signaling are both known to be essential for normal ENS development and loss of function mutations are associated with a congenital disorder called Hirschsprung's disease. The transcription factor Pax2 has been studied in CNS and cranial placode development but has not been previously implicated in ENS development. In this work, the authors begin with the unexpected observation that conditional knockout of Ednrb in Pax2-expressing cells causes a similar aganglionosis, growth retardation, and obstructed defecation as conditional knockout of Ednrb in Wnt1-expressing cells. The investigators then use the Pax2 and Wnt1 Cre transgenic lines to lineage-trace ENS derivatives and assess the effects of loss of Ret or Ednrb during embryonic development in these lineages. Finally, they use explants from the corresponding embryos to examine the effects of GDNF on progenitor outgrowth and differentiation.

Strengths:

- The manuscript is overall very well illustrated with high resolution images and figures. Extensive data are presented.

- The identification of Pax2 expression as a lineage marker that distinguishes a subset of cells in the ENS that may be distinct from cells derived from Wnt1+ progenitors is an interesting new observation that challenges current understanding of ENS development

- Pax2 has not been previously implicated in ENS development - this manuscript does not directly test that role but hints at the possibility

- Interrogation of two distinct signaling pathways involved in ENS development and their relative effects on the two purported lineages

Weaknesses:

- The major challenge with interpreting this work is the use of two transgenic lines, Wnt1-Cre and Pax2-Cre, which are not well characterized in terms of fidelity to native gene expression and recombination efficiency in the ENS. If 100% of cells that express Wnt1 do not express Cre or if the Pax2 transgene is expressed in cells that do not normally express Pax2, then these observations would have very different interpretations and would not support the conclusions made. The two lineages are never compared in the same embryo, which also makes it difficult to assess relative contributions and renders the evidence more circumstantial than definitive.

- Visualization of the Pax2-Cre and Wnt-1Cre induced recombination in cross-sections at postnatal ages would help with data interpretation. If there is recombination evident in the mesenchyme, this would particularly alter interpretation of Ednrb mutant experiments, since that pathway has been shown to alter gut mesenchyme and ECM, which could indirectly alter ENS colonization.

- The data on distinct lineages in Fig 3 is somewhat weak and the description in the Results section tends to over-interpretation. For example, "A minimum number (approx. 3%) of CGRP+ neurons were labeled by Wnt1Cre ... which indicates that Wnt1Cre-derived cells have little or no commitment to a mechanosensory fate in the distal colon." The data panel in Fig 3f shows that most of the CGRP-IR cells in Wnt1-Cre-Tomato mice are tdTomato+ though their tdTomato fluorescence is less intense than in neighboring smaller, likely glial cells. This suggests that CGRP+/Tomato+ neurons were likely undercounted. IHC for tdTomato to ensure detection of low levels of Tomato expression and quantification of observations would strengthen the authors' claim. CGRP+ enteric neurons have been visualized and functionally described by several investigators in the field using Wnt1-Cre-GCaMP mice, which also challenges the authors' conclusions. Finally, quantification of CGRP+ enteric neurons by measuring CGRP mucosal fiber immunoreactivity is not accurate because it would reflect both ENS CGRP-expressing neurons and visceral afferents from DRG. Moreover, it is not known if all CGRP+ enteric neurons project to the mucosa or if all mucosal-projecting neurons are mechanosensory. Finally, most of the signal seems to be non-specific background staining in the mucosa and quantification of mucosal signal in this context does not seem meaningful.

- No consideration of glia - are these derived from both lineages?

- No discussion of how these observations may fit in with recent work that suggests a mesenchymal contribution of enteric neurons (PMID: 38108810)

- Phospho-RET staining in Figure 7 is difficult to discern and interpret with high background. Positive and negative controls would strengthen these data.

Comments on revised version:

The authors have responded to the weaknesses identified above. Based on my own assessment of the revised manuscript, my assessment is unchanged because the manuscript is largely unchanged.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The manuscript describes comprehensive structure-function studies combining structural studies, Alphafold2-based modelling, and extensive structural validation by mutagenesis and biochemical experiments. Consequently, a sophisticated activation mechanism of Mical1 as a representative of the MICAL family is elucidated at the molecular level. Since MICAL proteins are important regulators of membrane trafficking and cytoskeleton dynamics, the study is of high relevance for many groups. Structural data are of high quality, the modelling data appear to be sound, and the subsequent biochemical analyses are carried out in great detail, yielding a complete story. I have little to criticize on this beautiful work.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Rai and coworkers have studied the regulation of the MICAL-family of actin regulators by Rab 8 family GTPases. Their work uses a combination of structural biology, biochemistry, and modelling approaches to identify the regions and specific residues interacting with Rabs and understand the consequences of MICAL1 regulation. The study extends previous work on individual domains by incorporating analysis of the full-length MICAL1 protein and provides compelling evidence for allosteric regulation by Rab binding to two low and high-affinity regulatory sites.

Strengths:

Excellent biochemical and structural analysis.

Weaknesses:

Additional data to test the model for Rab regulation of MICAL1 in the actin-pelleting assay would enhance the study.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The manuscript "Osterix Facilitates Osteocytic Communication by Targeting Connexin43" investigates the role of Osterix (Osx) in osteocytes using a Col1α1-CreER;Osxfl/fl mouse model and cultured cells. The study reveals that Osx is expressed in osteocytes, and its deletion in vitro leads to a significant reduction in osteocyte dendrite formation, highlighting its critical role in maintaining cellular communication. Through ChIP-seq analysis, the authors identified Connexin43 (Cx43) as a direct downstream target of Osx. Moreover, treatment with all-trans retinoic acid (ATRA), a known agonist of Cx43, was able to rescue the dendritic network in osteocytes, restoring their communication capabilities in vitro.

This research provides valuable insights into the molecular mechanisms by which Osx influences osteocyte function, particularly through its regulation of Cx43. However, despite these findings, the study does not fully elucidate all the mechanisms involved in Osx-mediated osteocytic communication. Several conclusions, particularly those related to the broader signaling pathways, require additional experimental evidence and further investigation to be fully substantiated. This study provides a new aspect in understanding the complex role of Osx in bone biology but leaves open questions regarding the intricacies of its regulatory network.

Major Comments:

(1) In the Col1a1-CreER;tdTomato mice, the number of tdTomato+ cells in the cortical bone appears lower compared to Osx+ cells. The overlap between tdTomato+ and Osx+ cells in Figure 1 is limited. Could this affect the knockout efficiency? Can the authors provide data on Osx knockout efficiency in vivo? While immunostaining of Osx is shown in both control and mutant mice in Figure 2A, the Osx expression pattern differs from Figure 1A. Osx expression is relatively low in the bone marrow in Figure 1A, but much stronger in Figure 2A.

Additionally, Osx+ cells in Figure 1A seem confined to the bone surface, whereas Figure 2A shows a broader distribution. What developmental stage of mice was used in Figure 1? Could the authors also provide co-staining with other osteocyte markers alongside Osx?

(2) The authors mentioned using both siRNA and Lenti-Osx to modulate Osx expression. What was the specific purpose of these experiments? If the authors aim to demonstrate that Osx plays a critical role in osteocytes, they should provide data on downstream targets or markers relevant to osteocyte function. Additionally, did these treatments affect processes like differentiation or cell viability in osteocytes? The current results only demonstrate that siRNA and Lenti-Osx can successfully modulate Osx expression in vitro, but further evidence is needed to support broader functional conclusions.

(3) Osx knockout mice exhibited a decreased osteocyte dendritic network both in vivo and in vitro. To better understand how this affects overall bone health, could the authors provide additional parameters, such as bone thickness, bone strength, and other relevant metrics? Furthermore, to determine whether these phenotypes are primarily due to defects in the osteocyte dendritic network or a reduction in osteocyte numbers, the authors should also assess the number of osteocytes in the knockout mice Figure 2.

(4) Regarding the Lucifer Yellow Dye Transfer Assay in Figure 3, the authors should provide data on cell density and cell viability for both control and mutant groups. Additionally, although less dye is observed in the mutant group, the migration distance appears comparable to the control group. Could the authors explain this result? Furthermore, how was transmission speed between the groups evaluated in Figure 3D? More details on the method used to assess transmission speed would be helpful.

(5) For a more comprehensive and unbiased analysis of Osx function in osteocytes, the authors should present a full analysis of differentially expressed genes, rather than focusing solely on integrins. Additionally, it would be beneficial to include an analysis of the knockdown group alongside the other groups, considering the animal model used in this study involves knockout mice.

(6) In the immunofluorescence staining of integrin αvβ1 in the si-Osx and Lenti-Osx groups, the cellular localization of integrin αvβ1 appears altered. Unlike the control group, where it is mainly localized in the cytoplasm, positive signals are observed in the nucleus of the si-Osx and Lenti-Osx groups. Additionally, since integrin αvβ1 is a membrane protein, shouldn't it primarily be observed on the cell membrane rather than in the cytoplasm? Could the authors clarify this observation?

(7) The results regarding Cx43 expression after Lenti-Osx treatment are questionable. It appears that the images for the Lenti-GFP and Lenti-Osx groups have been misrepresented. The merged images for the Lenti-GFP control group seem to belong to the Lenti-Osx group, and vice versa. If the images were presented in their correct order, the conclusions would contradict the authors' claims. This issue needs to be addressed to ensure an accurate interpretation of the data.

(8) The authors demonstrated that ATRA treatment elevates Cx43 protein levels in the control group, where Osx function is normal. However, can ATRA also restore Cx43 protein levels in the si-Osx treated group, where Osx transcriptional function is impaired? Theoretically, Cx43 protein levels should not be restored in the si-Osx group. Could the observed rescue phenotype be due to effects downstream of Cx43? This possibility should be considered and clarified.

(9) Does the Cx43 mutation of knockout cause similar phenotypes in the animal model? Can restoration of Cx43 rescue the bone phenotype?

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This study shows that Osx plays a pivotal role in the dendritic network and intercellular communication of Col1α1-positive osteocytes via targeting Connexin43 (Cx43). It provides solid evidence to broaden our understanding of Osx's roles during bone homeostasis. This work will be of interest to investigators studying bone diseases involving osteocytes, such as delayed fracture healing or osteoporosis.

Comments:

(1) In Figure 1, it appears that the Osx- and Col1α1-positive cells may not be exclusively expressed by osteocytes. Possibly periosteum cells and osteoblasts are also included. This could potentially impact the interpretation of results. The authors should provide a clearer analysis to distinguish the cell types precisely.

(2) Jialiang S. Wang et al. (Nat Commun. 2021 Nov 1;12(1):6274.) have previously reported on the direct role of Osx in osteocytes. In light of this prior research, it is essential for the authors to thoroughly discuss how this study differs from previous findings.

(3) In the methods section, it is crucial to provide detailed information about the manufacturer and country of origin of reagents, like ATRA.

(4) The morphology of osteocytes in cortical bone can vary between the metaphysis site and the middle shaft site of long bones. For SEM data of osteocytes in Figure 2, it is necessary to address this issue. The authors should clarify whether morphological difference was observed between these sites and, if so, how these differences might impact the interpretation of the data.

(5) In the bone research field, two different Col1α1 - CreER mice were used. The authors should specify which type of Col1α1 - CreER mice were utilized in this research.

(6) A more detailed description of the statistical method used in Figure 2G - I is required, particularly with regard to quantifying the number of osteocyte dendritic processes.

(7) In Figure 6C and Figure 6D, while the legend indicates N = 3, there are five data points presented in the statistical graph.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This study investigated the expression of Osterix (Osx) not only in osteoblasts but also significantly in osteocytes. Through Osx knockout, the osteocytic dendritic network was damaged, leading to communication disruption. This study investigated the regulatory role of Osx on osteoblast dendrites through Cx43.

Strengths:

This paper provides a good explanation of the role of Osx in osteocyte synapse and cell communication, enriching the understanding of Osx's functional significance. The results of the experiment support the conclusions of the study. This is an interesting study with a clear logical structure.

Weaknesses:

Some experimental results need to be supplemented, and there are still some details and errors in the text that need to be revised.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Yan and colleagues introduce a modification to the previously published PETRI-seq bacterial single cell protocol to include a ribosomal depletion step based on a DNA probe set that selectively hybridizes with ribosome-derived (rRNA) cDNA fragments. They show that their modification of the PETRI-seq protocol increases the fraction of informative non-rRNA reads from ~4-10% to 54-92%. The authors apply their protocol to investigating heterogeneity in a biofilm model of E. coli, and convincingly show how their technology can detect minority subpopulations within a complex community.

Strengths:

The method the authors propose is a straightforward and inexpensive modification of an established split-pool single cell RNA-seq protocol that greatly increases its utility, and should be of interest to a wide community working in the field of bacterial single cell RNA-seq.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This work introduces a new method of depleting the ribosomal reads from the single-cell RNA sequencing library prepared with one of the prokaryotic scRNA-seq techniques, PETRI-seq. The advance is very useful since it allows broader access to the technology by lowering the cost of sequencing. It also allows more transcript recovery with fewer sequencing reads. The authors demonstrate the utility and performance of the method for three different model species and find a subpopulation of cells in the E.coli biofilm that express a protein, PdeI, which causes elevated c-di-GMP levels. These cells were shown to be in a state that promotes persister formation in response to ampicillin treatment.

Strengths:

The introduced rRNA depletion method is highly efficient, with the depletion for E.coli resulting in over 90% of reads containing mRNA. The method is ready to use with existing PETRI-seq libraries which is a large advantage, given that no other rRNA depletion methods were published for split-pool bacterial scRNA-seq methods. Therefore, the value of the method for the field is high. There is also evidence that a small number of cells at the bottom of a static biofilm express PdeI which is causing the elevated c-di-GMP levels that are associated with persister formation. This finding highlights the potentially complex role of PdeI in regulation of c-di-GMP levels and persister formation in microbial biofilms.

Weaknesses:

Given many current methods that also introduce different techniques for ribosomal RNA depletion in bacterial single-cell RNA sequencing, it is unclear what is the place and role of RiboD-PETRI. The efficiency of rRNA depletion varies greatly between species for the majority of the available methods, so it is not easy to select the best fitting technique for a specific application.

Despite transcriptome-wide coverage, the authors focused on the role of a single heterogeneously expressed gene, PdeI. A more integrated analysis of multiple genes and\or interactions between them using these data could reveal more insights into the biofilm biology.

The authors should also present the UMIs capture metrics for RiboD-PETRI method for all cells passing initial quality filter (>=15 UMIs/cell) both in the text and in the figures. Selection of the top few cells with higher UMI count may introduce biological biases in the analysis (the top 5% of cells could represent a distinct subpopulation with very high gene expression due to a biological process). For single-cell RNA sequencing, showing the statistics for a 'top' group of cells creates confusion and inflates the perceived resolution, especially when used to compare to other methods (e.g. the parent method PETRI-seq itself).

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Yan and colleagues introduce a modification to the previously published PETRI-seq bacterial single cell protocol to include a ribosomal depletion step based on a DNA probe set that selectively hybridizes with ribosome-derived (rRNA) cDNA fragments. They show that their modification of the PETRI-seq protocol increases the fraction of informative non-rRNA reads from ~4-10% to 54-92%. The authors apply their protocol to investigating heterogeneity in a biofilm model of E. coli, and convincingly show how their technology can detect minority subpopulations within a complex community.

Strengths:

The method the authors propose is a straightforward and inexpensive modification of an established split-pool single cell RNA-seq protocol that greatly increases its utility, and should be of interest to a wide community working in the field of bacterial single cell RNA-seq.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The revision by Wang et al is a much more clear and readable manuscript than the original version, which I think was a bit too terse and hard to parse. In this version, I think I basically understand all the analyses that the authors undertake and how they argue that those analyses support their conclusions.

The fundamental claim of the manuscript is that rRNA genes experience substitutions much too quickly, given that they are a multi-copy gene system. As clarified by the authors in their response, and as I think is relatively clear in the manuscript, they are collapsing all copies of the rRNA array down. They first quantify polymorphism (in this expanded definition, where polymorphism means variable at a given site across any copy). The authors find elevated levels of heterozygosity in rRNA genes compared to single copy genes, which isn't surprising, given that there is a substantially higher target size; that being said, the increase in polymorphism is smaller than the increase in target size. They then look at substitutions between mouse species and also between human and chimp, and argue that the substitution rate is too fast compared to single copy genes in many cases.

I think that this is an interesting problem and one that obviously occupies some space in the literature. As the authors point out, one possibility for explaining the elevated fixation rate is that there is some kind of positive selection in these putatively non-functional regions. The authors, instead, argue that the elevated rate of evolution is due to neutral homogenizing processes. I'm sympathetic to this argument, I'm a neutralist myself :)

That being said, I find the whole analysis and the connection with the WFH model very strange. As I stated in my previous review, it feels very odd to chalk everything up to variance in reproductive success, rather than explicitly modeling the molecular processes that may lead to the homogenization. For example, the authors bring up gene conversion, and even do a small test of gene conversion. But a force like biased gene conversion is perhaps better modeled as a deterministic force, rather than a stochastic force. Indeed, I think that explicit modeling of mutation dynamics has been very helpful in understanding the role of replicative vs damage-related mutation in humans, as seen in Gao et al (2016) and Spisak et al (2024). I realize, as the authors say in their cover letter, that this is hard! But a major concern with this manuscript is that it's about whether drift can plausibly explain the pattern, but then it's basically impossible to know if it really can, because we have no way to compare the estimated parameters with biophysical or biochemical measurements of the rates of homogenizing forces, because the homogenizing forces are just wrapped up under "variance in reproductive success". I think a much more interesting manuscript would have a more explicit model of homogenizing forces.

I also have some concerns about the data analysis, echoing some concerns of the other reviewer. The biggest issue is that traditional read mapping and SNP calling pipelines for highly duplicated loci don't really make sense. I don't fully understand the variant calling pipeline. The authors state that "All mapping and analysis are performed among individual copies of rRNA genes." which makes it sound like the reads mapping to different copies were somehow deconvolved, which is what you'd need to do to use "normal" variant calling approaches that call look for homozygotes and heterozygotes. But I don't know enough about this literature to understand how they did that and if it makes any sense. If, instead, they called variants against collapsed rRNA copies, then using a standard variant calling approach does not make sense. If you have a variant in 2 out of 100 copies, a standard variant calling algorithm would very likely call that a homozygous ancestral site. Conditional on the variant calls being reasonable, however, I'm basically okay with their use of read counts to estimate "allele frequencies" within individuals.

I have some more minor comments:

(1) In the paragraph starting line 61, the authors say that WF models are unable to handle things like viral epidemics and transposons. I don't think that's really fair: the issue here isn't WF dynamics or not, it's that there is fundamentally evolution on two levels (which is also the case in the rRNA case considered in this manuscript). I certainly agree with the authors that you can't just naively apply standard pop gen theory in these systems, but I think the arrow at the WF model is misaimed, as the real issue is drift and selection on multiple levels.

(2) Line 268-269: The authors argue that the long term rate of evolution in rRNA genes is roughly similar to single copy genes, suggesting not a big influence of increased mutation rate. I'm not sure I understand where this number comes from, as opposed to the divergence numbers they look at in Table 3. These seem to be two different conclusions from roughly the same measurement? Surely I am misunderstanding something.

References:

Gao, Z., Wyman, M. J., Sella, G., & Przeworski, M. (2016). Interpreting the dependence of mutation rates on age and time. PLoS biology, 14(1), e1002355.

Spisak, N., de Manuel, M., Milligan, W., Sella, G., & Przeworski, M. (2024). The clock-like accumulation of germline and somatic mutations can arise from the interplay of DNA damage and repair. PLoS biology, 22(6), e3002678.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

I appreciate the authors' efforts in addressing previous feedback by correcting typos, clarifying terms, and expanding the methodological descriptions. The revisions have notably improved the manuscript's clarity and readability. However, despite these positive changes, I still have several significant concerns, both conceptual and technical, that need to be addressed to strengthen the conclusions of the paper.

The key idea of this paper is the treatment of rDNA copies in an individual as a pseudo-population and model their sequence evolution with the WFH framework by introducing the parameter V*(K). With this modeling framework, the authors claim that the molecular evolution rate of rDNA relative to that of single-copy genes can be expressed as a simple function V*(K) and C (the copy number per individual). Moreover, when V*(K) is sufficiently large, the neutral molecular evolution of rDNA can be faster than expected under a naïve model without considering horizontal, homogenizing processes and thus be potentially compatible with empirical data. However, several issues persist in the definition, assumptions, and derivation of the model:

(1) Several terms in the model remain undefined. While Ne is clearly defined in the standard single-copy gene model as the reciprocal of genetic drift (i.e., the decay in heterozygosity), its meaning for multiple-copy genes is unclear. Based on the context, it appears that the authors define Ne as the parameter that fits the population polymorphism level (Hs) using the equation in line 165. This definition is reasonable, but it should be explicitly clarified in the text."<br /> (2) Another key parameter V*(K) was still not defined within the paper. In response 9, the authors explained that V*(K) refers to "the number of progeny to whom the gene copy of interest is transmitted (K) over a specific time interval". However, the meaning of "progeny" remains unclear. Are the authors referring to the descendent copies of a gene copy, or the offspring individuals (i.e., the living organisms)? For example, if a variant spreads horizontally through homogenizing processes and transmits vertically to multiple offspring individuals, the number of descent gene copies could differ substantially from the number of descendent individuals to whom a gene copy is transmitted to. This distinction needs to be clarified and clearly stated in the paper.<br /> (3) The authors state that V*(K)>=1 for rDNA genes because of the homogenizing processes (lines 139-141) without providing justification. It is unclear, at least to me, whether homogenizing processes are expected increase or decrease the variance in "reproductive success" across gene copies. Moreover, the authors claim that V*(K) "can potentially reach values in the hundreds and may even exceed C, resulting in C*=C/V*(K)<1" (Response 7). This claim is unlikely to be true, as the minimum value of K is bounded by zero and E(K) is assumed to be 1. Even in the extreme case that 1% gene copies leave large numbers of descends while the others leave none, V*(K) would still be less than 100. Such extreme case seems highly improbable, given realistic rates of the homogenizing processes.<br /> (4) Regardless of how the authors define V*(K), it is not immediately clear why Equation 1 (N*=NC/V*(K)) holds. Both sides of the equation have their independent meanings, so the authors need to provide a step-by-step derivation demonstrating that they are equal. Only by doing this will the implicit underlying assumptions become clearer. I also strongly recommend that the authors conduct forward-in-time simulations with fixed N, C, V*(K) (however they define it) and μ to confirm that the right side of Equation 1 actually predicts the N* as calculated from the polymorphism level using the equation in line 165.<br /> (5) Without providing justification, the authors assumed that a certain number N* exists for rRNA such that it fits both the polymorphism level (line 156) in recent timescales and divergence level in longer timescales (i.e., in the comparison between Tf and Td). However, if N, C or any other relevant parameters have varied substantially throughout evolution, N* is expected to vary with time, and the same value may not fit both polymorphism and divergence data simultaneously.

The authors also provided more detailed description of their data analysis methods, but some of my major concerns remain:<br /> (1) A significant issue with aligning reads to a single reference genome is reference bias, referring to the phenomenon that reads carrying the reference alleles tend to align more easily than those with one or more non-reference alleles, thus creating a bias in genotype calling or variant allele frequency quantification. As a result, there may be an underrepresentation of non-reference alleles in called variants or an underestimate of non-reference allele frequency, particularly in regions with high genetic diversity. Simply focusing on bi-allelic SNVs is insufficient to minimize reference bias. Given the fourfold increase in diversity within rDNA, the authors must either provide evidence that reference bias is not a significant concern or adopt graph-based reference genomes or more sophisticated alignment algorithms to address this issue.<br /> (2) The potential for reference bias also renders the analysis of divergence sites unreliable, as aligning reads from one species (e.g. chimpanzee) to the reference of another species (e.g., human) is likely to introduce biases in variant calling between the two. One commonly adopted approach to address this imbalance is to align reads from both species to a third reference genome that is expected to be equidistantly related to both.<br /> (3) Although it is somewhat reassuring that the estimated divergence rate of rDNA between human and macaque is comparable to that of the rest of the genome, there still remains concern of a under-estimation of divergence in rDNA regions due to reference bias issue. Note that while the "third genome" approach reduces imbalance between two genomes in comparison, it may still under-estimate overall divergence level due to under-calling of non-reference variants.<br /> (4) In response to my question about the similarity in rDNA substitution rates estimated with or without CpG sites, the authors suggest that this "may be due to strong homogenizing forces, which can rapidly fix or eliminate variants" (response17). However, this explanation is insufficient, because the observed substitution rate depends on the mutation rate multiplied by the fixation probability, and accelerated fixation or loss does not alter either. Unless the authors can provide more convincing explanation, technical errors in calling of fixed sites still remain a concern.

Minor points<br /> Line 157: The statement "where μ is the mutation rate of the entire gene" must be wrong, as the heterozygosity calculated with such μ would correspond to the chance of seeing two different haplotypes at gene level, which is incompatible with the empirical calculation specified in Equation 2. Instead, μ must represent the mutation rate per site averaged over the entire gene.

In response 22, the authors explained that the allele frequency spectrum shown in Fig 3 is folded, because the ancestral allele was not determined. However, this is inconsistent with x-axis Fig 3 ranging between 0 and 1. I suspect the x-axis represents the frequency of the alternative (i.e., non-reference) allele. If so, the reported correlation is inflated, as the reference allele is somewhat random, and a variant at joint ALT allele frequencies of (0.9, 0.9) is no different from a variant at (0.1, 0.1). The proper way of calculate this correlation is to first determine the minor allele frequency across individuals and then calculate the correlation between minor allele frequencies.

Similarly, in response 14, it is unclear what the x-axis represents. Is it the ALT allele frequency or derived allele frequency? If the former, why are only variants with AF>0.8 defined as fixed variants, while those with AF<0.2 excluded? If it is the latter, please describe how ancestral state is determined.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors set out to measure the diffusion of small drug molecules inside live cells. To do this, they selected a range of fluorescent drugs, as well as some commonly used dyes, and used FRAP to quantify their diffusion. The authors find that drugs diffuse and localize within the cell in a way that is weakly correlated with their charge, with positively charged molecules displaying dramatically slower diffusion and a high degree of subcellular localization.

The study is important because it points to an important issue related to the way drugs behave inside cells beyond the simple "IC50" metric (a decidedly mesoscopic/systemic value). The authors conclude, and I agree, that their results point to nuanced effects that are governed by drug chemistry that could be optimized to make them more effective.

Strengths:

(1) The work examines an understudied aspect of drug delivery.

(2) The work uses well-established methodologies to measure diffusion in cells

(3) The work provides an extensive dataset, covering a range of chemistries that are common in small molecule drug design

(4) The authors consider several explanations as to the origin of changes in cellular diffusion

Comments on revised version:

In general, my comments were addressed, new discussions were added, and the paper has been improved significantly, which is great.

However, despite providing very clear instructions, a lot of my comments re statistical treatment were disregarded. Bar charts still do not show the repeats as individual points. Errors bars still represent SEM, which gives a wrong idea about the spread of the data. FRAP lines are still averages, and still do not show the spread of the data.

Significance assignments are done based on average and SEMs, as opposed to the full dataset. There is nothing technically wrong with this, but it generally creates an impression that things are more reproducible/rigorous/significant than they would be if the data was shown completely.

Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

Summary:

Blocking a weak base compound's protonation increased intracellular diffusion and fractional recovery in the cytoplasm, which may improve the intracellular availability and distribution of weakly basic, small molecule drugs and be impactful in future drug development.

Strengths:

(1) The intracellular distribution of drugs and the chemical properties that drive their distribution are much needed in the literature. Thus, the idea behind this paper is of relevance.

(2) The study used common compounds that were relevant to others.

(3) Altering a compound's pKa value and measuring cytosolic diffusion rates certainly is inciteful on how weak base drugs and their relatively high pKa values affect distribution and pharmacokinetics. This particular experiment demonstrated relevance to drug targeting and drug development.

(4) The manuscript was fairly well written.

Comments on revised version:

After reviewing the authors' responses to my questions and concerns, they have adequately corrected the errors, added new information and data based off the reviewers suggestions that improved the manuscript. The manuscript in its current form would add quality information to a part of the literature that is lacking much needed information.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript by Shan, Guo, Zhang, Chen et al., shows a raft of interesting data including the first cryo-EM structures of human PIEZO1. Clearly the molecular basis of PIEZO channel inactivation is of great interest and as such this manuscript provides some valuable extra information that may help to ultimately build a molecular picture of PIEZO channel inactivation. However, the current manuscript though does not provide any compelling evidence for a detailed mechanism of PIEZO inactivation.

Strengths:

This manuscript documents the first cryo-EM structures of human PIEZO1 and gain of function mutants associated with hereditary anaemia. It is also the first evidence showing that PIEZO1 gain of function mutants are also regulated by the auxiliary subunit MDFIC.

Weaknesses:

While the structures are interesting and clear differences can be seen in the presence of the auxiliary subunit MDFIC the major conclusions and central tenets of the paper, especially a role for pore lipids in inactivation, lack data to support them. The post translational modification of PIEZOs auxiliary subunit MDFIC is not modelled as a covalent interaction.

Comments on revisions:

The revisions do absolutely nothing to allay any of the major concerns documented in my initial review of this manuscript.

(1) Mouse vs Human inactivation<br /> Not only is a quantification not provided the literature on this point is still not at all referenced or discussed.<br /> (2) MDFIC -lipidation<br /> Even if they are not assigned in the PDB for illustration they can at least be modelled correctly as covalently bound acyl chains.<br /> (3) Pore lipids and inactivation<br /> None of the explanations are consistent with the data shown.<br /> (4) Cytosolic plug<br /> There is not even any extra discussion provided on this point.<br /> (5) Reduced sensitivity of PIEZO1 in the presence of MDFIC and its regulatory mechanism<br /> No quantification is provided.<br /> (6) Both referencing of the PIEZO1 literature and prose could be improved.<br /> There is little to no attempt to improve the referencing.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Notably, the authors provide the first structure of human PIEZO1 (hPIEZO1), which will facilitate future studies in the field. They reveal that hPIEZO1 has a more flattened shape than mouse PIEZO1 (mPIEZO1) and has lipids that insert into the hydrophobic pore region. To understand how PIEZO1 GOF mutations might affect this structure and the underlying mechanistic changes, they solve structures of hPIEZO1 as well as two HX causing mild GOF mutations (A1988V and E756del) and a severe GOF mutation (R2456H). Unable to glean too much information due to poor resolution of the mutant channels, the authors also attempt to resolve MCFIC-bound structures of the mutants. These structures show that MDFIC inserts into the pore region of hPIEZO1, similar to its interaction with mPIEZO1, and results in a more curved and contracted state than hPIEZO1 on its own. The authors use these structures to hypothesize that differences in curvature and pore lipid position underlie the differences in inactivation kinetics between wild-type hPIEZO1, hPIEZO1 GOF mutations, and hPIEZO1 in complex with MDFIC.

Strengths:

This is the first human PIEZO1 structure. Thus, these studies become the steppingstone for future investigations to better understand how disease-causing mutations affect channel gating kinetics.

Comments on revisions:

The revised version of the manuscript is stronger and the authors have addressed most of our concerns. The only clarification that remains is data related to the electrophysiology experiments, Figure S2. In the response, the authors mention that they were referring to previously reported mPIEZO1 mutants. However, it is still missing quantification from the human mutant + MDFIC data. This data should be available to the authors and will be more informative than just the representative traces. In the text line 151-152 "Indeed, electrophysiological studies showed that co-expression of these channelopathy mutants with MDFIC resulted in significantly reduced mechanosensitivity and inactivation rate (Fig. S2)." However the updated version does not have any number or the statistics that were performed to indicate significance. I acknowledge that in the response they describe threshold but very descriptively.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, the authors used structural biology approaches to determine the molecular mechanism underlying the inactivation of the PIEZO1 ion channel. To this end, the authors presented structures of human PIEZO1 and its slow-inactivating mutants. The authors also determined the structures of these PIEZO1 constructs in complexes with the auxiliary subunit MDFIC, which substantially slows down PIEZO1 inactivation. From these structures, the authors observed a unique feature of human PIEZO1 in which the lipid molecules plugged the channel pore in fast-inactivating constructs. The authors proposed that these lipid molecules prevent ion permeation and underlie the molecular mechanism of human PIEZO1 inactivation.

Strengths:

Notedly, this manuscript reported the first structures of a human PIEZO1 channel, its channelopathy mutants, and their complexes with MDFIC. The proposed role of pore lipids in modulating PIEZO1 ion permeation is interesting.

Weaknesses:

The authors' conclusion regarding the role of pore lipids in PIEZO inactivation is based on the assumption that all structures of human PIEZO1 resolved in this work represent comparable functional states relevant to channel inactivation. The authors should at least acknowledge that this is a critical assumption that is difficult to validate. The fitting of the lipid molecule to cryo-EM density could be improved.

Comments on revisions:

Upon revision, the authors substantially weakened the statement regarding the correlation between curvature and inactivation. The authors also toned down the statement regarding the role of pore lipids in channel inactivation. However, I have a few additional comments.

(1) As I have stated above, the assumption here is that all structures presented in this work represent comparable functional states relevant to channel inactivation. However, this assumption could be invalid. For example, the WT channel could be in the closed conformation, whereas the mutant could be stabilized in a different functional state. I understand that this is very difficult to test structurally and functionally. Therefore, I think the authors should at least acknowledge this limitation/assumption.<br /> (2) This time, I reviewed the coordinates and the map of the PIEZO1 structures. For example, in the WT channel, the fitting of the lipid to the cryo-EM density is questionable and I personally wouldn't model this lipid in this pose.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Mehmet Mahsum Kaplan et al. demonstrate that Meis2 expression in neural crest-derived mesenchymal cells is crucial for whisker follicle (WF) development, as WF fails to develop in wnt1-Cre;Meis2 cKO mice. Advanced imaging techniques effectively support the idea that Meis2 is essential for proper WF development and that nerves, while affected in Meis2 cKO, are dispensable for WF development and not the primary cause of WF developmental failure. The study also reveals that although Meis2 significantly downregulates Foxd1 in the mesenchyme, this is not the main reason for WF development failure. The paper presents valuable data on the role of mesenchymal Meis2 in WF development. However, further quantification and analysis of the WF developmental phenotype would be beneficial in strengthening the claim that Meis2 controls early WF development rather than causing a delay or arrest in development. A deeper sequencing data analysis could also help link Meis2 to its downstream targets that directly impact the epithelial compartment.

Strengths:

(1) The authors describe a novel molecular mechanism involving Mesenchymal Meis2 expression, which plays a crucial role in early WF development.

(2) They employ multiple advanced imaging techniques to illustrate their findings beautifully.

(3) The study clearly shows that nerves are not essential for WF development.

Weaknesses:

(1) The authors claim that Meis2 acts very early during development, as evidenced by a significant reduction in EDAR expression, one of the earliest markers of placode development. While EDAR is indeed absent from the lower panel in Figure 3C of the Meis2 cKO, multiple placodes still express EDAR in the upper two panels of the Meis2 cKO. The authors also present subsequent analysis at E13.3, showing one escaped follicle positive for SHH and Sox9 in Figures 1 and 3. Does this suggest that follicles are specified but fail to develop? Alternatively, could there be a delay in follicle formation? The increase in Foxd1 expression between E12.5 and E13.5 might also indicate delayed follicle development, or as the authors suggest, follicles that have escaped the phenotype. The paper would significantly benefit from robust quantification to accompany their visual data, specifically quantifying EDAR, Sox9, and Foxd1 at different developmental stages. Additionally, analyzing later developmental stages could help distinguish between a delay or arrest in WF development and a complete failure to specify placodes.

(2) The authors show that single-cell sequencing reveals a reduction in the pre-DC population, reduced proliferation, and changes in cell adhesion and ECM. However, these changes appear to affect most mesenchymal cells, not just pre-DCs. Moreover, since E12.5 already contains WFs at different stages of development, as well as pre-DCs and DCs, it becomes challenging to connect these mesenchymal changes directly to WF development. Did the authors attempt to re-cluster only Cluster 2 to determine if a specific subpopulation is missing in Meis2 cKO? Alternatively, focusing on additional secreted molecules whose expression is disrupted across different clusters in Meis2 cKO could provide insights, especially since mesenchymal-epithelial communication is often mediated through secreted molecules. Did the authors include epithelial cells in the single-cell sequencing, can they look for changes in mesenchyme-epithelial cell interactions (Cell Chat) to indicate a possible mechanism?

(3) The authors aim to link Meis2 expression in the mesenchyme with epithelial Wnt signaling by analyzing Lef1, bat-gal, Axin1, and Wnt10b expression. However, the changes described in the figures are unclear, and the phenotype appears highly variable, making it difficult to establish a connection between Meis2 and Wnt signaling. For instance, some follicles and pre-condensates are Lef1 positive in Meis2 cKO. Including quantification or providing a clearer explanation could help clarify the relationship between mesenchymal Meis2 and Wnt signaling in both epidermal and mesenchymal cells. Did the authors include epithelial cells in the sequencing? Could they use single-cell analysis to demonstrate changes in Wnt signaling?

(4) Existing literature, including studies on Neurog KO and NGF KO, as well as the references cited by the authors, suggest that nerves are unlikely to mediate WF development. While the authors conduct a thorough analysis of WF development in Neurog KO, further supporting this notion, this point may not be central to the current work. Additionally, the claim that Meis2 influences trigeminal nerve patterning requires further analysis and quantification for validation.

(5) Meis2 expression seems reduced but has not entirely disappeared from the mesenchyme. Can the authors provide quantification?

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Kaplan et al. study mesenchymal Meis2 in whisker formation and the links between whisker formation and sensory innervation. To this end, they used conditional deletion of Meis2 using the Wnt1 driver. Whisker development was arrested at the placode induction stage in Meis2 conditional knockouts leading to the absence of expression of placodal genes such as Edar, Lef1, and Shh. The authors also show that branching of trigeminal nerves innervating whisker follicles was severely affected but that whiskers did form in the complete absence of trigeminal nerves.

Strengths:

The analysis of Meis2 conditional knockouts convincingly shows a lack of whisker formation and all epithelial whisker/hair placode markers were analyzed. Using Neurog1 knockout mice, the authors show equally convincingly that whiskers and teeth develop in the complete absence of trigeminal nerves.

Weaknesses:

The manuscript does not provide much mechanistic insight as to why mesenchymal Meis2 leads to the absence of whisker placodes. Using a previously generated scRNA-seq dataset they show that two early markers of dermal condensates, Foxd1 and Sox2, are downregulated in Meis2 mutants. However, given that placodes and dermal condensates do not form in the mutants, this is not surprising and their absence in the mutants does not provide any direct link between Meis2 and Foxd1 or Sox2. (The absence of a structure evidently leads to the absence of its markers.)

Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

Summary:

This work introduces a new method of depleting the ribosomal reads from the single-cell RNA sequencing library prepared with one of the prokaryotic scRNA-seq techniques, PETRI-seq. The advance is very useful since it allows broader access to the technology by lowering the cost of sequencing. It also allows more transcript recovery with fewer sequencing reads. The authors demonstrate the utility and performance of the method for three different model species and find a subpopulation of cells in the E.coli biofilm that express a protein, PdeI, which causes elevated c-di-GMP levels. These cells were shown to be in a state that promotes persister formation in response to ampicillin treatment.

Strengths:

The introduced rRNA depletion method is highly efficient, with the depletion for E.coli resulting in over 90% of reads containing mRNA. The method is ready to use with existing PETRI-seq libraries which is a large advantage, given that no other rRNA depletion methods were published for split-pool bacterial scRNA-seq methods. Therefore, the value of the method for the field is high. There is also evidence that a small number of cells at the bottom of a static biofilm express PdeI which is causing the elevated c-di-GMP levels that are associated with persister formation. Given that PdeI is a phosphodiesterase, which is supposed to promote hydrolysis of c-di-GMP, this finding is unexpected.

Weaknesses:

With the descriptions and writing of the manuscript, it is hard to place the findings about the PdeI into existing context (i.e. it is well known that c-di-GMP is involved in biofilm development and is heterogeneously distributed in several species' biofilms; it is also known that E.coli diesterases regulate this second messenger, i.e. https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/jb.00604-15).<br /> There is also no explanation for the apparently contradictory upregulation of c-di-GMP in cells expressing higher PdeI levels. Perhaps the examination of the rest of the genes in cluster 2 of the biofilm sample could be useful to explain the observed association.

Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Yan and colleagues introduce a modification to the previously published PETRI-seq bacterial single-cell protocol to include a ribosomal depletion step based on a DNA probe set that selectively hybridizes with ribosome-derived (rRNA) cDNA fragments. They show that their modification of the PETRI-seq protocol increases the fraction of informative non-rRNA reads from ~4-10% to 54-92%. The authors apply their protocol to investigating heterogeneity in a biofilm model of E. coli, and convincingly show how their technology can detect minority subpopulations within a complex community.

Strengths:

The method the authors propose is a straightforward and inexpensive modification of an established split-pool single-cell RNA-seq protocol that greatly increases its utility, and should be of interest to a wide community working in the field of bacterial single-cell RNA-seq.

Weaknesses:

The manuscript is written in a very compressed style and many technical details of the evaluations conducted are unclear and processed data has not been made available for evaluation, limiting the ability of the reader to independently judge the merits of the method.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors address whether the dorsal nucleus of the inferior colliculus (DCIC) in mice encodes sound source location within the front horizontal plane (i.e., azimuth). They do this using volumetric two-photon Ca2+ imaging and high-density silicon probes (Neuropixels) to collect single-unit data. Such recordings are beneficial because they allow large populations of simultaneous neural data to be collected. Their main results and the claims about those results are the following:

(1) DCIC single-unit responses have high trial-to-trial variability (i.e., neural noise);<br /> (2) approximately 32% to 40% of DCIC single units have responses that are sensitive to sound source azimuth;<br /> (3) single-trial population responses (i.e., the joint response across all sampled single units in an animal) encode sound source azimuth "effectively" (as stated in the title) in that localization decoding error matches average mouse discrimination thresholds;<br /> (4) DCIC can encode sound source azimuth in a similar format to that in the central nucleus of the inferior colliculus (as stated in the Abstract);<br /> (5) evidence of noise correlation between pairs of neurons exists;<br /> and 6) noise correlations between responses of neurons help reduce population decoding error.<br /> While simultaneous recordings are not necessary to demonstrate results #1, #2, and #4, they are necessary to demonstrate results #3, #5, and #6.

Strengths:

- Important research question to all researchers interested in sensory coding in the nervous system.<br /> - State-of-the-art data collection: volumetric two-photon Ca2+ imaging and extracellular recording using high-density probes. Large neuronal data sets.<br /> - Confirmation of imaging results (lower temporal resolution) with more traditional microelectrode results (higher temporal resolution).<br /> - Clear and appropriate explanation of surgical and electrophysiological methods. I cannot comment on the appropriateness of the imaging methods.

Strength of evidence for the claims of the study:

(1) DCIC single-unit responses have high trial-to-trial variability -<br /> The authors' data clearly shows this.

(2) Approximately 32% to 40% of DCIC single units have responses that are sensitive to sound source azimuth -<br /> The sensitivity of each neuron's response to sound source azimuth was tested with a Kruskal-Wallis test, which is appropriate since response distributions were not normal. Using this statistical test, only 8% of neurons (median for imaging data) were found to be sensitive to azimuth, and the authors noted this was not significantly different than the false positive rate. The Kruskal-Wallis test was not reported for electrophysiological data. The authors suggested that low numbers of azimuth-sensitive units resulting from the statistical analysis may be due to the combination of high neural noise and a relatively low number of trials, which would reduce the statistical power of the test. This is likely true and highlights a weakness in the experimental design (i.e., a relatively small number of trials). The authors went on to perform a second test of azimuth sensitivity-a chi-squared test-and found 32% (imaging) and 40% (e-phys) of single units to have statistically significant sensitivity. However, the use of a chi-squared test is questionable because it is meant to be used between two categorical variables, and neural response had to be binned before applying the test.

(3) Single-trial population responses encode sound source azimuth "effectively" in that localization decoding error matches average mouse discrimination thresholds -<br /> If only one neuron in a population had responses that were sensitive to azimuth, we would expect that decoding azimuth from observation of that one neuron's response would perform better than chance. By observing the responses of more than one neuron (if more than one were sensitive to azimuth), we would expect performance to increase. The authors found that decoding from the whole population response was no better than chance. They argue (reasonably) that this is because of overfitting of the decoder model-too few trials were used to fit too many parameters-and provide evidence from decoding combined with principal components analysis which suggests that overfitting is occurring. What is troubling is the performance of the decoder when using only a handful of "top-ranked" neurons (in terms of azimuth sensitivity) (Fig. 4F and G). Decoder performance seems to increase when going from one to two neurons, then decreases when going from two to three neurons, and doesn't get much better for more neurons than for one neuron alone. It seems likely there is more information about azimuth in the population response, but decoder performance is not able to capture it because spike count distributions in the decoder model are not being accurately estimated due to too few stimulus trials (14, on average). In other words, it seems likely that decoder performance is underestimating the ability of the DCIC population to encode sound source azimuth.

To get a sense of how effective a neural population is at coding a particular stimulus parameter, it is useful to compare population decoder performance to psychophysical performance. Unfortunately, mouse behavioral localization data do not exist. Instead, the authors compare decoder error to mouse left-right discrimination thresholds published previously by a different lab. However, this comparison is inappropriate because the decoder and the mice were performing different perceptual tasks. The decoder is classifying sound sources to 1 of 13 locations from left to right, whereas the mice were discriminating between left or right sources centered around zero degrees. The errors in these two tasks represent different things. The two data sets may potentially be more accurately compared by extracting information from the confusion matrices of population decoder performance. For example, when the stimulus was at -30 deg, how often did the decoder classify the stimulus to a lefthand azimuth? Likewise, when the stimulus was +30 deg, how often did the decoder classify the stimulus to a righthand azimuth?

(4) DCIC can encode sound source azimuth in a similar format to that in the central nucleus of the inferior colliculus -<br /> It is unclear what exactly the authors mean by this statement in the Abstract. There are major differences in the encoding of azimuth between the two neighboring brain areas: a large majority of neurons in the CNIC are sensitive to azimuth (and strongly so), whereas the present study shows a minority of azimuth-sensitive neurons in the DCIC. Furthermore, CNIC neurons fire reliably to sound stimuli (low neural noise), whereas the present study shows that DCIC neurons fire more erratically (high neural noise).

(5) Evidence of noise correlation between pairs of neurons exists -<br /> The authors' data and analyses seem appropriate and sufficient to justify this claim.

(6) Noise correlations between responses of neurons help reduce population decoding error -<br /> The authors show convincing analysis that performance of their decoder increased when simultaneously measured responses were tested (which include noise correlation) than when scrambled-trial responses were tested (eliminating noise correlation). This makes it seem likely that noise correlation in the responses improved decoder performance. The authors mention that the naïve Bayesian classifier was used as their decoder for computational efficiency, presumably because it assumes no noise correlation and, therefore, assumes responses of individual neurons are independent of each other across trials to the same stimulus. The use of a decoder that assumes independence seems key here in testing the hypothesis that noise correlation contains information about sound source azimuth. The logic of using this decoder could be more clearly spelled out to the reader. For example, if the null hypothesis is that noise correlations do not carry azimuth information, then a decoder that assumes independence should perform the same whether population responses are simultaneous or scrambled. The authors' analysis showing a difference in performance between these two cases provides evidence against this null hypothesis.

Minor weakness:<br /> - Most studies of neural encoding of sound source azimuth are done in a noise-free environment, but the experimental setup in the present study had substantial background noise. This complicates comparison of the azimuth tuning results in this study to those of other studies. One is left wondering if azimuth sensitivity would have been greater in the absence of background noise, particularly for the imaging data where the signal was only about 12 dB above the noise.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In the present study, Boffi et al. investigate the manner in which the dorsal cortex of the of the inferior colliculus (DCIC), an auditory midbrain area, encodes sound location azimuth in awake, passively listening mice. By employing volumetric calcium imaging (scanned temporal focusing or s-TeFo), complemented with high-density electrode electrophysiological recordings (neuropixels probes), they show that sound-evoked responses are exquisitely noisy, with only a small portion of neurons (units) exhibiting spatial sensitivity. Nevertheless, a naïve Bayesian classifier was able to predict the presented azimuth based on the responses from small populations of these spatially sensitive units. A portion of the spatial information was provided by correlated trial-to-trial response variability between individual units (noise correlations). The study presents a novel characterization of spatial auditory coding in a non-canonical structure, representing a noteworthy contribution specifically to the auditory field and generally to systems neuroscience, due to its implementation of state-of-the-art techniques in an experimentally challenging brain region. However, nuances in the calcium imaging dataset and the naïve Bayesian classifier warrant caution when interpreting some of the results.

Strengths:

The primary strength of the study lies in its methodological achievements, which allowed the authors to collect a comprehensive and novel dataset. While the DCIC is a dorsal structure, it extends up to a millimetre in depth, making it optically challenging to access in its entirety. It is also more highly myelinated and vascularised compared to e.g., the cerebral cortex, compounding the problem. The authors successfully overcame these challenges and present an impressive volumetric calcium imaging dataset. Furthermore, they corroborated this dataset with electrophysiological recordings, which produced overlapping results. This methodological combination ameliorates the natural concerns that arise from inferring neuronal activity from calcium signals alone, which are in essence an indirect measurement thereof.

Another strength of the study is its interdisciplinary relevance. For the auditory field, it represents a significant contribution to the question of how auditory space is represented in the mammalian brain. "Space" per se is not mapped onto the basilar membrane of the cochlea and must be computed entirely within the brain. For azimuth, this requires the comparison between miniscule differences between the timing and intensity of sounds arriving at each ear. It is now generally thought that azimuth is initially encoded in two, opposing hemispheric channels, but the extent to which this initial arrangement is maintained throughout the auditory system remains an open question. The authors observe only a slight contralateral bias in their data, suggesting that sound source azimuth in the DCIC is encoded in a more nuanced manner compared to earlier processing stages of the auditory hindbrain. This is interesting because it is also known to be an auditory structure to receive more descending inputs from the cortex.

Systems neuroscience continues to strive for the perfection of imaging novel, less accessible brain regions. Volumetric calcium imaging is a promising emerging technique, allowing the simultaneous measurement of large populations of neurons in three dimensions. But this necessitates corroboration with other methods, such as electrophysiological recordings, which the authors achieve. The dataset moreover highlights the distinctive characteristics of neuronal auditory representations in the brain. Its signals can be exceptionally sparse and noisy, which provide an additional layer of complexity in the processing and analysis of such datasets. This will undoubtedly be useful for future studies of other less accessible structures with sparse responsiveness.

Weaknesses:

Although the primary finding that small populations of neurons carry enough spatial information for a naïve Bayesian classifier to reasonably decode the presented stimulus is not called into question, certain idiosyncrasies, in particular the calcium imaging dataset and model, complicate specific interpretations of the model output, and the readership is urged to interpret these aspects of the study's conclusions with caution.

I remain in favour of volumetric calcium imaging as a suitable technique for the study, but the presently constrained spatial resolution is insufficient to unequivocally identify regions of interest as cell bodies (and are instead referred to as "units" akin to those of electrophysiological recordings). It remains possible that the imaging set is inadvertently influenced by non-somatic structures (including neuropil), which could report neuronal activity differently than cell bodies. Due to the lack of a comprehensive ground-truth comparison in this regard (which to my knowledge is impossible to achieve with current technology), it is difficult to imagine how many informative such units might have been missed because their signals were influenced by spurious, non-somatic signals, which could have subsequently misled the models. The authors reference the original Nature Methods article (Prevedel et al., 2016) throughout the manuscript, presumably in order to avoid having to repeat previously published experimental metrics. But the DCIC is neither the cortex nor hippocampus (for which the method was originally developed) and may not have the same light scattering properties (not to mention neuronal noise levels). Although the corroborative electrophysiology data largely alleviates these concerns for this particular study, the readership should be cognisant of such caveats, in particular those who are interested in implementing the technique for their own research.

A related technical limitation of the calcium imaging dataset is the relatively low number of trials (14) given the inherently high level of noise (both neuronal and imaging). Volumetric calcium imaging, while offering a uniquely expansive field of view, requires relatively high average excitation laser power (in this case nearly 200 mW), a level of exposure the authors may have wanted to minimise by maintaining a low number of repetitions, but I yield to them to explain. Calcium imaging is also inherently slow, requiring relatively long inter-stimulus intervals (in this case 5 s). This unfortunately renders any model designed to predict a stimulus (in this case sound azimuth) from particularly noisy population neuronal data like these as highly prone to overfitting, to which the authors correctly admit after a model trained on the entire raw dataset failed to perform significantly above chance level. This prompted them to feed the model only with data from neurons with the highest spatial sensitivity. This ultimately produced reasonable performance (and was implemented throughout the rest of the study), but it remains possible that if the model was fed with more repetitions of imaging data, its performance would have been more stable across the number of units used to train it. (All models trained with imaging data eventually failed to converge.) However, I also see these limitations as an opportunity to improve the technology further, which I reiterate will be generally important for volume imaging of other sparse or noisy calcium signals in the brain.

Transitioning to the naïve Bayesian classifier itself, I first openly ask the authors to justify their choice of this specific model. There are countless types of classifiers for these data, each with their own pros and cons. Did they actually try other models (such as support vector machines), which ultimately failed? If so, these negative results (even if mentioned en passant) would be extremely valuable to the community, in my view. I ask this specifically because different methods assume correspondingly different statistical properties of the input data, and to my knowledge naïve Bayesian classifiers assume that predictors (neuronal responses) are assumed to be independent within a class (azimuth). As the authors show that noise correlations are informative in predicting azimuth, I wonder why they chose a model that doesn't take advantage of these statistical regularities. It could be because of technical considerations (they mention computing efficiency), but I am left generally uncertain about the specific logic that was used to guide the authors through their analytical journey.

In a revised version of the manuscript, the authors indeed justify their choice of the naïve Bayesian classifier as a conservative approach (not taking into account noise correlations), which could only improve with other models (that do). They even tested various other commonly used models, such as support vector machines and k-nearest neighbours, to name a few, but do not report these efforts in the main manuscript. Interestingly, these models, which I supposed would perform better in fact did not overall - a finding that I have no way of interpreting but nevertheless find interesting.

That aside, there remain other peculiarities in model performance that warrant further investigation. For example, what spurious features (or lack of informative features) in these additional units prevented the models of imaging data from converging? In an orthogonal question, did the most spatially sensitive units share any detectable tuning features? A different model trained with electrophysiology data in contrast did not collapse in the range of top-ranked units plotted. Did this model collapse at some point after adding enough units, and how well did that correlate with the model for the imaging data? How well did the form (and diversity) of the spatial tuning functions as recorded with electrophysiology resemble their calcium imaging counterparts? These fundamental questions could be addressed with more basic, but transparent analyses of the data (e.g., the diversity of spatial tuning functions of their recorded units across the population). Even if the model extracts features that are not obvious to the human eye in traditional visualisations, I would still find this interesting.

Although these questions were not specifically addressed in the revised version of the manuscript, I also admit that I did not indent do assert that these should necessarily fall within the scope of the present study. I rather posed them as hypothetical directions one could pursue in future studies. Finally, further concerns I had with statements regarding the physiological meaning of the findings have been ameliorated by nicely modified statements, thus bringing transparency to the readership, which I appreciate.

In summary, the present study represents a significant body of work that contributes substantially to the field of spatial auditory coding and systems neuroscience. However, limitations of the imaging dataset and model as applied in the study muddles concrete conclusions about how the DCIC precisely encodes sound source azimuth and even more so to sound localisation in a behaving animal. Nevertheless, it presents a novel and unique dataset, which, regardless of secondary interpretation, corroborates the general notion that auditory space is encoded in an extraordinarily complex manner in the mammalian brain.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Boffi and colleagues sought to quantify the single-trial, azimuthal information in the dorsal cortex of the inferior colliculus (DCIC), a relatively understudied subnucleus of the auditory midbrain. They accomplished this by using two complementary recording methods while mice passively listened to sounds at different locations: calcium imaging that recorded large neuronal populations but with poor temporal precision and multi-contact electrode arrays that recorded smaller neuronal populations with exact temporal precision. DCIC neurons respond variably, with inconsistent activity to sound onset and complex azimuthal tuning. Some of this variably was explained by ongoing head movements. The authors used a naïve Bayes decoder to probe the azimuthal information contained in the response of DCIC neurons on single trials. The decoder failed to classify sound location better than chance when using the raw population responses but performed significantly better than chance when using the top principal components of the population. Units with the most azimuthal tuning were distributed throughout the DCIC, possessed contralateral bias, and positively correlated responses. Interestingly, inter-trial shuffling decreased decoding performance, indicating that noise correlations contributed to decoder performance. Overall, Boffi and colleagues, quantified the azimuthal information available in the DCIC while mice passively listened to sounds, a first step in evaluating if and how the DCIC could contribute to sound localization.

Strengths:

The authors should be commended for collection of this dataset. When done in isolation (which is typical), calcium imaging and linear array recordings have intrinsic weaknesses. However, those weaknesses are alleviated when done in conjunction - especially when the data is consistent. This data set is extremely rich and will be of use for those interested in auditory midbrain responses to variable sound locations, correlations with head movements, and neural coding.

The DCIC neural responses are complex with variable responses to sound onset, complex azimuthal tuning and large inter-sound interval responses. Nonetheless, the authors do a decent job in wrangling these complex responses: finding non-canonical ways of determining dependence on azimuth and using interpretable decoders to extract information from the population.

Weaknesses:

The decoding results are a bit strange, likely because the population response is quite noisy on any given trial. Raw population responses failed to provide sufficient information concerning azimuth for significant decoding. Importantly, the decoder performed better than chance when certain principal components or top ranked units contributed but did not saturate with the addition of components or top ranked units. So, although there is azimuthal information in the recorded DCIC populations - azimuthal information appears somewhat difficult to extract.

Although necessary given the challenges associated with sampling many conditions with technically difficult recording methods, the limited number of stimulus repeats precludes interpretable characterization of the heterogeneity across the population. Nevertheless, the dataset is public so those interested can explore the diversity of the responses.

The observations from Boffi and colleagues raises the question: what drives neurons in the DCIC to respond? Sound azimuth appears to be a small aspect of the DCIC response. For example, the first 20 principal components which explain roughly 80% of the response variance are insufficient input for the decoder to predict sound azimuth above chance. Furthermore, snout and ear movements correlate with the population response in the DCIC (the ear movements are particularly peculiar given they seem to predict sound presentation). Other movements may be of particular interest to control for (e.g. eye movements are known to interact with IC responses in the primate). These observations, along with reported variance to sound onsets and inter-sound intervals, question the impact of azimuthal information emerging from DCIC responses. This is certainly out of scope for any one singular study to answer, but, hopefully, future work will elucidate the dominant signals in the DCIC population. It may be intuitive that engagement in a sound localization task may push azimuthal signals to the forefront of DCIC response, but azimuthal information could also easily be overtaken by other signals (e.g. movement, learning).

Boffi and colleagues set out to parse the azimuthal information available in the DCIC on a single trial. They largely accomplish this goal and are able to extract this information when allowing the units that contain more information about sound location to contribute to their decoding (e.g., through PCA or decoding on their activity specifically). Interestingly, they also found that positive noise correlations between units with similar azimuthal preferences facilitate this decoding - which is unusual given that this is typically thought to limit information. The dataset will be of value to those interested in the DCIC and to anyone interested in the role of noise correlations in population coding. Although this work is first step into parsing the information available in the DCIC, it remains difficult to interpret if/how this azimuthal information is used in localization behaviors of engaged mice.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

This study by Alejandro Rosell et al. reveals the immunoregulatory role of the RAS-p110α pathway in macrophages, specifically in regulating monocyte extravasation and lysosomal digestion during inflammation. Disrupting this pathway, through genetic tools or pharmacological intervention in mice, impairs the inflammatory response, leading to delayed resolution and more severe acute inflammation. The authors suggest that activating p110α with small molecules could be a potential therapeutic strategy for treating chronic inflammation. These findings provide important insights into the mechanisms by which p110α regulates macrophage function and the overall inflammatory response.

The updates made by the authors in the revised version have addressed the main points raised in the initial review, further improving the strength of their findings.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Cell intrinsic signaling pathways controlling the function of macrophages in inflammatory processes, including in response to infection, injury or in the resolution of inflammation are incompletely understood. In this study, Rosell et al. investigate the contribution of RAS-p110α signaling to macrophage activity. p110α is a ubiquitously expressed catalytic subunit of PI3K with previously described roles in multiple biological processes including in epithelial cell growth and survival, and carcinogenesis. While previous studies have already suggested a role for RAS-p110α signaling in macrophage function, the cell intrinsic impact of disrupting the interaction between RAS and p110α in this central myeloid cell subset is not known.

Strengths:

Exploiting a sound previously described genetically engineered mouse model that allows tamoxifen-inducible disruption of the RAS-p110α pathway and using different readouts of macrophage activity in vitro and in vivo, the authors provide data consistent with their conclusion that alteration in RAS-p110α signaling impairs various but selective aspects of macrophage function in a cell-intrinsic manner.

Weaknesses:

My main concern is that for various readouts, the difference between wild-type and mutant macrophages in vitro or between wild-type and Pik3caRBD mice in vivo is modest, even if statistically significant. To further substantiate the extent of macrophage function alteration upon disruption of RAS-p110α signaling and its impact on the initiation and resolution of inflammatory responses, the manuscript would benefit from a more extensive assessment of macrophage activity and inflammatory responses in vivo.

In the in vivo model, all cells have disrupted RAS-p100α signaling, not only macrophages. Given that other myeloid cells besides macrophages contribute to the orchestration of inflammatory responses, it remains unclear whether the phenotype described in vivo results from impaired RAS-p100α signaling within macrophages or from defects in other haematopoietic cells such as neutrophils, dendritic cells, etc.

Inclusion of information on the absolute number of macrophages, and total immune cells (e.g. for the spleen analysis) would help determine if the reduced frequency of macrophages represents an actual difference in their total number or rather reflects a relative decrease due to an increase in the number of other/s immune cell/s.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Tian et al. describes how TIPE regulates melanoma progression, stemness, and glycolysis. The authors link high TIPE expression to increased melanoma cell proliferation and tumor growth. TIPE causes dimerization of PKM2, as well as translocation of PKM2 to the nucleus, thereby activating HIF-1alpha. TIPE promotes the phosphorylation of S37 on PKM2 in an ERK-dependent manner. TIPE is shown to increase stem-like phenotype markers. The expression of TIPE is positively correlated with the levels of PKM2 Ser37 phosphorylation in murine and clinical tissue samples. Taken together, the authors demonstrate how TIPE impacts melanoma progression, stemness, and glycolysis through dimeric PKM2 and HIF-1alpha crosstalk.

The authors manipulated TIPE expression using both shRNA and overexpression approaches throughout the manuscript. Using these models, they provide strong evidence of the involvement of TIPE in mediating PKM2 Ser37 phosphorylation and dimerization. The authors also used mutants of PKM2 at S37A to block its interaction with TIPE and HIF-1alpha. In addition, an ERK inhibitor (U0126) was used to block the phosphorylation of Ser37 on PKM2. The authors show how dimerization of PKM2 by TIPE causes nuclear import of PKM2 and activation of HIF-1alpha and target genes. Pyridoxine was used to induce PKM2 dimer formation, while TEPP-46 was used to suppress PKM2 dimer formation. TIPE maintains stem cell phenotypes by increasing expression of stem-like markers. Furthermore, the relationship between TIPE and Ser37 PKM2 was demonstrated in murine and clinical tissue samples.

The evaluation of how TIPE causes metabolic reprogramming can be further assessed using isotope tracing experiments.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In this article, Tian et al present a convincing analysis of the molecular mechanisms underpinning TIPE-mediated regulation of glycolysis and tumor growth in melanoma. The authors begin by confirming TIPE expression in melanoma cell lines and identify "high" and "low" expressing models for functional analysis. They show that TIPE depletion slows tumour growth in vivo, and using both knockdown and over expression approaches, show that this is associated with changes in glycolysis in vitro. Compelling data using multiple independent approaches is presented to support an interaction between TIPE and the glycolysis regulator PKM2, and over-expression of TIPE promoted nuclear translocation of PKM2 dimers. Mechanistically, the authors also demonstrate that PKM2 is required for TIPE-mediated activation of HIF1a transcriptional activity, as assessed using an HRE-promoter reporter assay, and that TIPE-mediated PKM2 dimerization is p-ERK dependent. Finally, the dependence of TIPE activity on PKM2 dimerization was demonstrated on tumor growth in vivo and in regulation of glycolysis in vitro, and ectopic expression of HIF1a could rescue inhibition of PKM2 dimerization in TIPE overexpressing cells and reduced induction of general cancer stem cell markers, showing a clear role for HIF1a in this pathway.

The detailed mechanistic analysis of TIPE mediated regulation of PKM2 to control aerobic glycolysis and tumor growth is a major strength of the study and provides new insights into the molecular mechanisms that underpin the Warburg effect in melanoma cells. The main conclusions of this paper are well supported by data, however further investigation of a potential oncogenic effect of TIPE in melanoma patients is warranted to support the tumor promoting role of TIPE identified in the experimental models. Analysis of patient samples showed a significant increase in TIPE protein levels in primary melanoma compared to benign skin tumours, and a further increase upon metastatic progression. Moreover, TIPE levels correlate with proliferation (Ki67) and hypoxia gene sets in the TCGA melanoma patient dataset. However, intriguingly, high TIPE expression associates with better survival outcomes in the TCGA melanoma patient cohort, therefore further investigation of how TIPE-mediated regulation of glycolysis contributes to melanoma progression is warranted to confirm the authors claims of a potential oncogenic function. Regardless, the new insights into the molecular mechanisms underpinning TIPE-mediated aerobic glycolysis in melanoma are convincing and will likely generate interest in the cancer metabolism field.

Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

Summary:

The work by Joseph et al "Impact of the clinically approved BTK inhibitors on the conformation of full-length BTK and analysis of the development of BTK resistance mutations in chronic lymphocytic leukemia" seeks to comparatively analyze the effect of a range of covalent and noncovalent clinical BTK inhibitors upon BTK conformation. The novel aspect of this manuscript is that it seeks to evaluate the differential resistance mutations that arise distinctly from each of the inhibitors.

Strengths:

This is an exciting study that builds upon the fundamental notion of ensemble behavior in solutions for enzymes such as BTK. The HDX-MS and NMR experiments are adequately and comprehensively presented.

Comments on the revised version:

I am satisfied with the revisions and the clear explanations.

Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

Summary:

Previous NMR and HDX-MS studies on full-length (FL) BTK showed that the covalent BTKi, ibrutinib, causes long-range effects on the conformation of BTK consistent with disruption of the autoinhibited conformation, based on HDX deuterium uptake patterns and NMR chemical shift perturbations. This study extends the analyses to four new covalent BTKi, acalabrutinib, zanubrutinib, tirabrutinib/ONO4059, and a noncovalent ATP competitive BTKi, pirtobrutinib/LOXO405.

The results show distinct conformational changes that occur upon binding each BTKi. The findings show consistent NMR and HDX changes with covalent inhibitors, which move helix aC to an 'out' position and disrupt SH3-kinase interactions, in agreement with X-ray structures of the BTKi complexed with the BTK kinase domain. In contrast, the solution measurements show that pirtobrutinib maintains and even stabilizes the helix aC-in and autoinhibited conformation, even though the BTK:pritobrutinib crystallizes with helix aC-out. This and unexpected variations in NMR and HDX behavior between inhibitors highlight the need for solution measurements to understand drug interactions with the full-length BTK. Overall the findings present good evidence for allosteric effects by each BTKi that induce distal conformational changes which are sensitive to differences in inhibitor structure.

The study goes on to examine BTK mutants T474I and L528W, which are known to confer resistance to pirtobrutinib, zanubritinib, and tirabrutinib. T474I reduces and L528W eliminates BTK autophosphorylation at pY551, while both FL-BTK-WT and FL-BTK-L528W increase HCK autophosphorylation and PLCg phosphorylation. These show that mutants partially or completely inactivate BTK and that inactive FL-BTK can activate HCK, potentially by direct BTK-HCK interactions. But they do not explain drug resistance. However, HDX and NMR show that each mutant alters the effects of BTKi binding compared to WT. In particular, T474I alters the effects of all three inhibitors around W395 and the activation loop, while L528W alters interactions around W395 with tirabrutinib and pirtobrutinib, and does not appear to bind zanubrutinib at all. The study concludes that the mutations might block drug efficacy by reducing affinity or altering binding mode.

Strengths:

The work presents convincing evidence that BTK inhibitors alter the conformation of regions distal to their binding sites, including those involved in the SH3-kinase interface, the activation loop, and a substrate binding surface between helix aF and helix aG. The findings add to the growing understanding of allosteric effects of kinase inhibitors, and their potential regulation of interactions between kinase and binding proteins.

Comments on the revised version:

The authors have satisfactorily addressed my concerns in their revised manuscript.

Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

Summary:

The authors want to understand fundamental steps in ligand binding to muscle nicotinic receptors using computational methods. Overall, although the work provides new information and support for existing models of ligand activation of this receptor type, some limitations in the methods and approach mean that the findings are not as conclusive as hoped.

Strengths:

The strengths include the number of ligands tried, and the comparison to the existing mature analysis of receptor function from the senior author's lab.

Weaknesses:

The weakness are the brevity of the simulations, the concomitant lack of scope of the simulations, the lack of depth in the analysis and the incomplete relation to other relevant work. The free energy methods used seem to lack accuracy - they are only correct for 2 out of 4 ligands.

Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

Summary:

The aim of this manuscript is to use molecular dynamics (MD) simulations to describe the conformational changes of the neurotransmitter binding site of a nicotinic receptor. The study uses a simplified model including the alpha-delta subunit interface of the extracellular domain of the channel and describes the binding of four agonists to observe conformational changes during the weak to strong affinity transition.

Strength:

The 200 ns-long simulations of this model suggest that the agonist rotates about its centre in a 'flip' motion, while loop C 'flops' to restructure the site. The changes appear to be reproduced across simulations and different ligands and are thus a strong point of the study.

Weaknesses:

After carrying out all-atom molecular dynamics, the authors revert to a model of binding using continuum Poisson-Boltzmann, surface area and vibrational entropy. The motivations for and limitations associated with this approximate model for the thermodynamics of binding, rather than using modern atomistic MD free energy methods (that would fully incorporate configurational sampling of the protein, ligand and solvent) could be provided. Despite this, the authors report correlation between their free energy estimates and those inferred from the experiment. This did, however, reveal shortcomings for two of the agonists. The authors mention their trouble getting correlation to experiment for Ebt and Ebx and refer to up to 130% errors in free energy. But this is far worse than a simple proportional error, because -24 Vs -10 kcal/mol is a massive overestimation of free energy, as would be evident if it the authors were to instead to express results in terms of KD values (which would have error exceeding a billion fold). The MD analysis could be improved with better measures of convergence, as well as a more careful discussion of free energy maps as function of identified principal components, as described below. Overall, however, the study has provided useful observations and interpretations of agonist binding that will help understand pentameric ligand-gated ion channel activation.

Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

Summary:

The authors use docking and molecular dynamics (MD) simulations to investigate transient conformations that are otherwise difficult to resolve experimentally. The docking and simulations suggest an interesting series of events whereby agonists initially bind to the low affinity site and then flip 180 degrees as the site contracts to its high affinity conformation. This work will be of interest to the ion channel community and to biophysical studies of pentameric ligand-gated channels.

Strengths:

I find the premise for the simulations to be good, starting with an antagonist bound structure as an estimate of the low affinity binding site conformation, then docking agonists into the site and using MD to allow the site to relax to a higher affinity conformation that is similar to structures in complex with agonists. The predictions are interesting and provide a view into what a transient conformation that is difficult to observe experimentally might be like.

Weaknesses:

A weakness is that the relevance of the initial docked low affinity orientations depend solely on in silco results, for which simulated vs experimental binding energies deviate substantially for two of the four ligands tested. This raises some doubt as to the validity of the simulations. I acknowledge that the calculated binding energies for two of the ligands were closer to experiment, and simulated efficiencies were a good representation of experimental measures, which gives some support to the relevance of the in silico observations. Regardless, some of the reviewers comments regarding the simulation methodology were not seriously addressed.

Reviewer #4 (Public Review):

Summary:

In their revised manuscript "Conformational dynamics of a nicotinic receptor neurotransmitter binding site," Singh and colleagues present molecular docking and dynamics simulations to explore the initial conformational changes associated with agonist binding in the muscle nicotinic acetylcholine receptor, in context with the extensive experimental literature on this system. Their central findings are of a consistently preferred pose for agonists upon initial association with a resting channel, followed by a dramatic rotation of the ligand and contraction of a critical loop over the binding site. Principal component analysis also suggests the formation of an intermediate complex, not yet captured in structural studies. Binding free energy estimates are consistent with the evolution of a higher-affinity complex following agonist binding, with a ligand efficiency notably similar to experimental values. Snapshot comparisons provide a structural rationale for these changes on the basis of pocket volume, hydration, and rearrangement of key residues at the subunit interface.

Strengths:

Docking results are clearly presented and remarkably consistent. Simulations are produced in triplicate with each of four different agonists, providing an informative basis for internal validation. They identify an intriguing transition in ligand pose, not well documented in experimental structures, and potentially applicable to mechanistic or even pharmacological modeling of this and related receptor systems. The paper seems a notable example of integrating quantitative structure-function analysis with systematic computational modeling and simulations, likely applicable to the wider journal audience.

Weaknesses:

The response to the initial review is somewhat disappointing, declining in some places to implement suggested clarifications, and propagating apparent errors in at least one table (Fig 2-source data 1). Some legends (e.g. Fig 2-supplement 4, Fig 3, Fig 4) and figure shadings (e.g. Fig 2-supplement 2, Fig 6-supplement 2) remain unclear. Apparent convergence of agonist-docked simulations towards a desensitized state (l 184) is difficult to interpret in absence of comparative values with other states, systems, etc. In more general concerns, aside from the limited timescales (200 ns) that do not capture global rearrangements, it is not obvious that landscapes constructed on two principal components to identify endpoint and intermediate states (Fig 3) are highly robust or reproducible, nor whether they relate consistently to experimental structures.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Zhang et al. describe a delicate relationship between Tet2 and FBP1 in the regulation of hepatic gluconeogenesis.

Strengths:

The studies are very mechanistic, indicating that this interaction occurs via demethylation of HNF4a. Phosphorylation of HNF4a at ser 313 induced by metformin also controls the interaction between Tet2 and FBP1.

Weaknesses:

The results are briefly described, and oftentimes, the necessary information is not provided to interpret the data. Similarly, the methods section is not well developed to inform the reader about how these experiments were performed. While the findings are interesting, the results section needs to be better developed to increase confidence in the interpretation of the results.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study reveals a novel role of TET2 in regulating gluconeogenesis. It shows that fasting and a high-fat diet increase TET2 expression in mice, and TET2 knockout reduces glucose production. The findings highlight that TET2 positively regulates FBP1, a key enzyme in gluconeogenesis, by interacting with HNF4α to demethylate the FBP1 promoter in response to glucagon. Additionally, metformin reduces FBP1 expression by preventing TET2-HNF4α interaction. This identifies an HNF4α-TET2-FBP1 axis as a potential target for T2D treatment.

Strengths:

The authors use several methods in vivo (PTT, GTT, and ITT in fasted and HFD mice; and KO mice) and in vitro (in HepG2 and primary hepatocytes) to support the existence of the HNF4alpha-TET-2-FBP-1 axis in the control of gluconeogenesis. These findings uncovered a previously unknown function of TET2 in gluconeogenesis.

Weaknesses:

Although the authors provide evidence of an HNF4α-TET2-FBP1 axis in the control of gluconeogenesis, which contributes to the therapeutic effect of metformin on T2D, its role in the pathogenesis of T2D is less clear. The mechanisms by which TET2 is up-regulated by glucagon should be more explored.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The authors presented a new MNase-based proximity ligation method called MChIP-C, allowing for the measurement of protein-mediated chromatin interactions at single-nucleosome resolution on a genome-wide scale. With improved resolution and sensitivity, they explored the spatial connectivity of active promoters and identified the potential candidates for establishing/maintaining E-P interactions. Finally, with published CRISPRi screens, they found that most functionally-verified enhancers do physically interact with their cognate promoters, supporting the enhancer-promoter looping model.

While the study's experimental approach and findings are interesting. However, several issues need to be addressed:

(1) The authors described that "the lack of interaction between experimentally-validated enhancers and their cognate promoters in some studies employing C-methods has raised doubts regarding the classical promoter-enhancer looping model", so it's intriguing to see whether the MChIP-C could indeed detect the E-P interactions which were not identified by C-methods as they mentioned (Benabdallah et al., 2019; Gupta et al., 2017). I agree that they identified more E-P interactions using MChIP-C, but specifically, they should show at least 2-3 cases. It's important since this is the main conclusion the authors want to draw.

(2) The authors compared their data to those of Chen et al. (Chen et al., 2022), who used PLAC-seq with anti-H3K4me3 antibodies in K562 cells and standard Micro-C data previously reported for K562, concluding that "MChIP-C achieves superior sensitivity and resolution compared to C-methods based on standard restriction enzymes.". This is not convincing since they only compared their data to one dataset. More datasets from other cell lines should be included.

(3) The reasons to choose Chen's data (Chen et al., 2022) and CRISPRi screens (Fulco et al., 2019; Gasperini et al., 2019) should be provided since there are so many out there.

(4) The authors identify EP300 histone acetyltransferase and the SWI/SNF remodeling complex as potential candidates for establishing and/or maintaining enhancer-promoter interactions, but not RNA polymerase II, mediator complex, YY1 and BRD4. More explanation is needed for this point since they're previously suggested to be associated with E-P interactions.

(5) The limitations of the method should be discussed.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Golov et al has performed the capture MChIP-C using H3K4me3 antibody. The new method significantly increases the resolution of Micro-C and can detect the clear interactions which is not well described in the previous HiChIP/PLAC-seq method. Overall, the paper represented a significant technological advance which can be valuable to the 3D genomic field in the future.

The authors have addressed all my concerns and comments.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript represents a technology development- specifically an micrococcal nuclease chromatin capture approach, termed MChIP-C to identify promoter centered chromatin interactions at single nucleosome resolution via a specific protein, similar to HiChIP, ChIA-PET, etc.. In general the manuscript is technically well done.

Strengths:

Methods appear to hold promise to improve both the sensitivity and resolution of protein-centered chromatin capture approaches.

Weaknesses:

Downsampling analysis gives a better idea of the strengths of the approach, especially related to individual loci. While this method does outperform other approaches, it remains technically sophisticated and for some labs may not be worth the additional effort for the increase in information. Also, until tested and proven by other groups, it is difficult to know how impactful this approach will be.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Krwawicz et al., present evidence that expression of DNMTs in E. coli results in (1) introduction of alkylation damage that is repaired by AlkB; (2) confers hypersensitivity to alkylating agents such as MMS (and exacerbated by loss of AlkB); (3) confers hypersensitivity to oxidative stress (H2O2 exposure); (4) results in a modest increase in ROS in the absence of exogenous H2O2 exposure; and (5) results in the production of oxidation products of 5mC, namely 5hmC and 5fC, leading to cellular toxicity. The findings reported here have interesting implications for the concept that such genotoxic and potentially mutagenic consequences of DNMT expression (resulting in 5mC) could be selectively disadvantageous for certain organisms. The other aspect of this work which is important for understanding the biological endpoints of genotoxic stress is the notion that DNA damage per se somehow induces elevated levels of ROS.

Strengths:

The manuscript is well-written, and the experiments have been carefully executed providing data that support the authors' proposed model presented in Fig. 7 (Discussion, sources of DNA damage due to DNMT expression).

Weaknesses:

(1) The authors have established an informative system relying on expression of DNMTs to gauge the effects of such expression and subsequent induction of 3mC and 5mC on cell survival and sensitivity to an alkylating agent (MMS) and exogenous oxidative stress (H2O2 exposure). The authors state (p4) that Fig. 2 shows that "Cells expressing either M.SssI or M.MpeI showed increased sensitivity to MMS treatment compared to WT C2523, supporting the conclusion that the expression of DNMTs increased the levels of alkylation damage." This is a confusing statement and requires revision as Fig. 2 does ALL cells shown in Fig. 2 are expressing DNMTs and have been treated with MMS. It is the absence of AlkB and the expression of DNMTs that that causes the MMS sensitivity.

(2) It would be important to know whether the increased sensitivity (toxicity) to DNMT expression and MMS is also accompanied by substantial increases in mutagenicity. The authors should explain in the text why mutation frequencies were not also measured in these experiments.

(3) Materials and Methods. ROS production monitoring. The "Total Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) Assay Kit" has not been adequately described. Who is the Vendor? What is the nature of the ROS probes employed in this assay? Which specific ROS correspond to "total ROS"?

(4) The demonstration (Fig. 4) that DNMT expression results in elevated ROS and its further synergistic increase when cells are also exposed to H2O2 is the basis for the authors' discussion of DNA damage-induced increases in cellular ROS. S. cerevisiae does not possess DNMTs/5mC, yet exposure to MMS also results in substantial increases in intracellular ROS (Rowe et al, (2008) Free Rad. Biol. Med. 45:1167-1177. PMC2643028). The authors should be aware of previous studies that have linked DNA damage to intracellular increases in ROS in other organisms and should comment on this in the text.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript proposes that 5mC modifications to DNA, despite being ancient and widespread throughout life, represent a vulnerability, making cells more susceptible to both chemical alkylation and, of more general importance, reactive oxygen species. Sarkies et al take the innovative approach of introducing enzymatic genome-wide cytosine methylation system (DNA methyltransferases, DNMTs) into E. coli, which normally lacks such a system. They provide compelling evidence that the introduction of DNMTs increases the sensitivity of E. coli to chemical alkylation damage. Surprisingly they also show DNMTs increase the sensitivity to reactive oxygen species and propose that the DNMT generated 5mC presents a target for the reactive oxygen species that is especially damaging to cells. Evidence is presented that DNMT activity directly or indirectly produces reactive oxygen species in vivo, which is an important discovery if correct, though the mechanism for this remains obscure.

Strengths:

This work is based on an interesting initial premise, it is well-motivated in the introduction and the manuscript is clearly written. The results themselves are compelling.

Weaknesses:

I am not currently convinced by the principal interpretations and think that other explanations based on known phenomena could account for key results. Specific points below.

(1) As noted in the manuscript, AlkB repairs alkylation damage by direct reversal (DNA strands are not cut). In the absence of AlkB, repair of alklylation damage/modification is likely through BER or other processes involving strand excision and resulting in single stranded DNA. It has previously been shown that 3mC modification from MMS exposure is highly specific to single stranded DNA (PMID:20663718) occurring at ~20,000 times the rate as double stranded DNA. Consequently, the introduction of DNMTs is expected to introduce many methylation adducts genome-wide that will generate single stranded DNA tracts when repaired in an AlkB deficient background (but not in an AlkB WT background), which are then hyper-susceptible to attack by MMS. Such ssDNA tracts are also vulnerable to generating double strand breaks, especially when they contain DNA polymerase stalling adducts such as 3mC. The generation of ssDNA during repair is similarly expected follow the H2O2 or TET based conversion of 5mC to 5hmC or 5fC neither of which can be directly repaired and depend on single strand excision for their removal. The potential importance of ssDNA generation in the experiments has not been considered.

(2) The authors emphasise the non-additivity of the MMS + DNMT + alkB experiment but the interpretation of the result is essentially an additive one: that both MMS and DNMT are introducing similar/same damage and AlkB acts to remove it. The non-additivity noted would seem to be more consistent with the ssDNA model proposed in #1. More generally non-additivity would also be seen if the survival to DNA methylation rate is non-linear over the range of the experiment, for example if there is a threshold effect where some repair process is overwhelmed. The linearity of MMS (and H2O2) exposure to survival could be directly tested with a dilution series of MMS (H2O2).

(3) The substantial transcriptional changes induced by DNMT expression (Supplemental Figure 4) are a cause for concern and highlight that the ectopic introduction of methylation into a complex system is potentially more confounded than it may at first seem. Though the expression analysis shows bulk transcription properties, my concern is that the disruptive influence of methylation in a system not evolved with it adds not just consistent transcriptional changes but transcriptional heterogeneity between cells which could influence net survival in a stressed environment. In practice I don't think this can be controlled for, possibly quantified by single-cell RNA-seq but that is beyond the reasonable scope of this paper.

(4) Figure 4 represents a striking result. From its current presentation it could be inferred that DNMTs are actively promoting ROS generation from H2O2 and also to a lesser extent in the absence of exogenous H2O2. That would be very surprising and a major finding with far-reaching implications. It would need to be further validated, for example by in vitro reconstitution of the reaction and monitoring ROS production. Rather, I think the authors are proposing that some currently undefined, indirect consequence of DNMT activity promotes ROS generation, especially when exogenous H2O2 is available. It would help if this were clarified.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

5-methylcytosine (5mC) is a key epigenetic mark in DNA and plays a crucial role in regulating gene expression in many eukaryotes including humans. The DNA methyltransferases (DNMTs) that establish and maintain 5mC, are conserved in many species across eukaryotes, including animals, plants, and fungi, mainly in a CpG context. Interestingly, 5mC levels and distributions are quite variable across phylogenies with some species even appearing to have no such DNA methylation.

This interesting and well-written paper discusses the continuation of some of the authors' work published several years ago. In that previous paper, the laboratory demonstrated that DNA methylation pathways coevolved with DNA repair mechanisms, specifically with the alkylation repair system. Specifically, they discovered that DNMTs can introduce alkylation damage into DNA, specifically in the form of 3-methylcytosine (3mC). (This appears to be an error in the DNMT enzymatic mechanism where the generation 3mC as opposed to its preferred product 5-methylcytosine (5mC), is caused by the flipped target cytosine binding to the active site pocket of the DNMT in an inverted orientation.) The presence of 3mC is potentially toxic and can cause replication stress, which this paper suggests may explain the loss of DNA methylation in different species. They further showed that the ALKB2 enzyme plays a crucial role in repairing this alkylation damage, further emphasizing the link between DNA methylation and DNA repair.

The co-evolution of DNMTs with DNA repair mechanisms suggests there can be distinct advantages and disadvantages of DNA methylation to different species which might depend on their environmental niche. In environments that expose species to high levels of DNA damage, high levels of 5mC in their genome may be disadvantageous. This present paper sets out to examine the sensitivity of an organism to genotoxic stresses such as alkylation and oxidation agents as the consequence of DNMT activity. Since such a study in eukaryotes would be complicated by DNA methylation controlling gene regulation, these authors cleverly utilize Escherichia coli (E.coli) and incorporate into it the DNMTs from other bacteria that methylate the cytosines of DNA in a CpG context like that observed in eukaryotes; the active sites of these enzymes are very similar to eukaryotic DNMTs and basically utilize the same catalytic mechanism (also this strain of E.coli does not specifically degrade this methylated DNA) .

The experiments in this paper more than adequately show that E. coli expression of these DNMTs (comparing to the same strain without the DNMTS) do indeed show increased sensitivity to alkylating agents and this sensitivity was even greater than expected when a DNA repair mechanism was inactivated. Moreover, they show that this E. coli expressing this DNMT is more sensitive to oxidizing agents such as H2O2 and has exacerbated sensitivity when a DNA repair glycosylase is inactivated. Both propensities suggest that DNMT activity itself may generate additional genotoxic stress. Intrigued that DNMT expression itself might induce sensitivity to oxidative stress, the experimenters used a fluorescent sensor to show that H2O2 induced reactive oxygen species (ROS) are markedly enhanced with DNMT expression. Importantly, they show that DNMT expression alone gave rise to increased ROS amounts and both H2O2 addition and DNMT expression has greater effect that the linear combination of the two separately. They also carefully checked that the increased sensitivity to H2O2 was not potentially caused by some effect on gene expression of detoxification genes by DNMT expression and activity. Finally, by using mass spectroscopy, they show that DNMT expression led to production of the 5mC oxidation derivatives 5-hydroxymethylcytosine (5hmC) and 5-formylcytosine (5fC) in DNA. 5fC is a substrate for base excision repair while 5hmC is not; more 5fC was observed. Introduction of non-bacterial enzymes that produce 5hmC and 5fC into the DNMT expressing bacteria again showed a greater sensitivity than expected. Remarkedly, in their assay with addition of H2O2, bacteria showed no growth with this dual expression of DNMT and these enzymes.

Overall, the authors conduct well thought-out and simple experiments to show that a disadvantageous consequence of DNMT expression leading to 5mC in DNA is increased sensitivity to oxidative stress as well as alkylating agents.

Again, the paper is well-written and organized. The hypotheses are well-examined by simple experiments. The results are interesting and can impact many scientific areas such as our understanding of evolutionary pressures on an organism by environment to impacting our understanding about how environment of a malignant cell in the human body may lead to cancer.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors introduced neutron crystallography coupled with room temperature X-ray crystallography to exam the redox properties of the BtFt [4Fe-4S] cluster expressed in E. coli. Neutron structure allowed the authors to exam the influence of Asp64 on the redox properties of the [4Fe-4S] cluster. The neutron structure also allowed for the identification of the hydrogen network around the [4Fe-4S] structure. This work was followed by density functional theory calculation to examine different redox states which also pointed to the role of Asp64 in affecting or dictating redox function of the [4Fe-4S] cluster. Based on the DFT work the authors examine the redox properties under oxic and anoxic conditions in wild type enzymes and in a D64N mutant again showing the role of Asp64 on the redox kinetics and redox potential of the [4Fe-4S] cluster. Lastly, the authors examined similar [4Fe-4S] ferredoxins from several organisms and with a Asp64 or Glu64 observed a similar role of Asp64 on the low potential state of the [4Fe-4S] cluster. The major conclusion of the study was to identify the role of specific amino acids, in this case Asp64, in controlling the redox state and kinetics of [4Fe-4S] clusters. The authors also demonstrate the strength of neutron crystallography when combined with classical X-ray crystallography and classical spectral/redox studies.

Strengths:

In general, the experimental design is logical and the results are convincing demonstrating the role of Asp64 on the redox properties of [4Fe-4S] clusters in ferredoxins.

Weaknesses:

The role(s) of coordinating amino acids on the redox properties of a functional group is not surprising, this reviewer believes this is a novel result in ferredoxins and does make a nice contribution to the field.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In this study, Wada et al. investigate the low potential ferredoxin from Bacillus thermoproteolyticus (BtFd) using a combination of neutron crystallography, x-ray crystallography, DFT and spectroscopy to determine the influence of hydrogen bonding networks on the redox potential of ferredoxin's 4Fe-4S cluster. The use of neutron diffraction allowed the authors to probe the precise location of hydrogens around the 4Fe-4S cluster, which was not possible from prior studies, even with the previously reported high-resolution (0.92 Å) structure of BtFd. This allowed the authors to revise prior models of the proposed H bonding network theorized from earlier x-ray crystallography studies ( for example, showing that there is not in fact a H bond formed between the Thr63-O𝛾1 and the [4Fe-4S]-S4 atoms). With this newly described H-bonding network established, the electronic structure of the 4Fe-4S cluster was then investigated using DFT methodology, revealing a startling role of the deprotonated surface residue Asp64, which bears substantial electronic density in the LUMO which is otherwise localized to the 4Fe-4S cluster. While aspartate is usually deprotonated at physiological pH, the authors provide compelling evidence that this aspartate has a much higher pKa than is usual, and is able to act as a protonation-dependent switch which controls the stability of the reduced state of the 4Fe-4S cluster, and thus the redox potential.

The findings of this study and the conclusions drawn from them are well supported by the data and computational work. Their findings have implications for similar control mechanisms in other, non-ferredoxin 4Fe-4S bearing electron transport proteins which have yet to be explored, providing great value to the metalloprotein community. One change that the authors may consider to enhance the clarity of the manuscript regards the nomenclature used for the varying models discussed (CM, CMNA, CMH and so forth). It would be beneficial to the reader if the nomenclature included the redox state (ox. vs red.) of the model in the model's name.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

A description of small phosphatised fossils from the Kuanchuanpu, formations that are claimed to represent unequivocal early segmented bilaterians with limbs, ie annelids or panarthropods. All material from the Kuanchuanpu is of interest, and the mode of preservation is certainly striking.

However, few details apart from bilateral symmetry and paired protrusions are present. In addition, fragments of potential progenitors such as anabaritiids cannot be entirely ruled out. In addition, the broader claims about the nature of the Cambrian explosion, the gap between the fossil record and molecular clocks, and what various authors have said about them are either inadequate or incorrect. For example, Budd and Jackson did not at all make the claim that the earliest bilaterians were soft-bodied and tiny. Glaessner (1958) is a very out-of-date reference to use. We know that bilaterians certainly existed by the time of Kuanchuanpo.

Even so, it is possible that these fragments do represent internal moulds of taxa such as lobopod-like organisms, even if the evidence is not totally persuasive.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This manuscript by Yang et al. describes a variety of bilateral and segmented microfossils from the basal Cambrian (Fortunian Stage) Kuanchuanpu Formation, South China. During the Fortunian Stage, body fossils are scarce, and key evidence for the presence of different clades relies on exceptionally preserved microfossils of embryos and larvae. The authors interpret the described microfossils as segmented bilaterians, with anteroposterior and dorsoventral differentiation and paired appendages. The implication of this interpretation is that the microfossils represent important evidence for early bilaterian evolution.

The strength of the manuscript is the convincing presentation of the material's bilateral and segmented nature and its taphonomy. The combined use of scanning electron microscopy and X-ray computed tomography to illustrate the material convincingly supports the argument of a bilaterian affinity. Likewise, the visualization of the cemented vesicles composed of phosphate nanocrystals that make up the fossils' internal molds supports the proposed taphonomic pathway.

The weakness of the manuscript is the further biological interpretations. While the manuscript presents a convincing argument that the molds derive from overall segmented (metameric) body plans, it does not fully explore which cavities/organs are actually molded. Instead, it assumes without discussion that the molds reflect the cuticle with a loss of fine external structures (e.g., setae). While external sclerites and cuticles are convincingly displayed in one case (Figure Supplement 5), more options exist for the rest of the material. Here, molds could perhaps represent other cavities, such as guts (including diverticula) or perivisceral cavities, both consistent with a lack of fine external details as well as an endogenous taphonomic pathway. A proper exploration of what these molds actually represent is, therefore, crucial to interpreting the ecological and evolutionary implications of the fossils.

Despite its weakness, the manuscript demonstrates convincing evidence of bilaterian microfossils in the Fortunian Stage. This evidence, in itself, contributes valuable information on the Cambrian animal radiation.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Corso-Diaz et al, focus on the NRL transcription factor (TF), which is critical for retinal rod photoreceptor development and function. The authors profile NRL's protein interactome, revealing several RNA-binding proteins (RBPs) among its components. Notably, many of these RBPs are associated with R-loop biology, including DHX9 helicase, which is the primary focus of this study. R-loops are three-stranded nucleic acid structures that frequently form during transcription. The authors demonstrate that R-loop levels increase during photoreceptor maturation and establish an interaction between NRL TF and DHX9 helicase. The association between NRL and RBPs like DHX9 suggests a cooperative regulation of gene expression in a cell-type-specific manner, an intriguing discovery relevant to photoreceptor health. Since DHX9 is a key regulator of R-loop homeostasis, the study proposes a potential mechanism where a cell-type-specific TF controls the expression of certain genes by modulating R-loop homeostasis. This study also presents the first data on R-loop mapping in mammalian retinas and shows the enrichment of R-loops over intergenic regions as well as genes encoding neuronal function factors. While the research topic is very important, there is some concern regarding the data presented: there are substantial data supporting the interaction between NRL and DHX9, including pull-down experiments and proximity labeling assay (PLA), however, the data showing an interaction between NRL and DDX5, another R-loop-associated helicase, are inadequate. Importantly, the data supporting the claim that NRL interacts with R-loops are absolutely insufficient and at best, correlative. The next concerns are regarding the R-loop mapping data analysis and visualization.

Strengths:

There is compelling evidence that the NRL transcription factor interacts with several RNA binding proteins, and specifically, sufficient data supporting the interaction of NRL with DHX9 helicase.<br /> A major strength is the use of the single-stranded R-loop mapping method in the mouse retina.

Weaknesses:

(1) Figure S1A: There is a strong band in GST-IP (control IP) for either HNRNPUI1 or HNRNPU, although the authors state in their results that there is a strong interaction of these two RBPs with NRL. Both DHX9 and DDX5 samples have a faint band in the GST-IP. There is an extremely faint band for HNRNPA2B1 in the GST-NRL IP lane. Given this is a pull-down with added benzonase treatment to remove all nucleic acids, these data suggest, that previously observed NRL interactions with these particular RBPs are mediated via nucleic acids. Similarly, there is a loss of band signal for HNRNM in this assay, although it was identified as an NRL-interacting protein in three assays, which again suggests that nucleic acids mediate the interaction.

(2) The data supporting NRL-DDX5 interaction in rod photoreceptor nuclei is very weak. In Figure 2D, the PLA signal for DDX5-NRL is very weak in the adult mouse retina and is absent in the human retina, as shown in Figure 2H. Given that there is no NRL-KO available for the human PLA assay, the control experiments using single-protein antibodies should be included in the assay. Similarly, the single-protein antibody control PLA experiments should be included in the experimental data presented in Figure 2J.

(3) The EMSA experiment using a probe containing NRL binding motif within the DHX9 promoter should include incubation with retina nuclear extracts depleted for NRL as a control.

(4) There is a reduced amount of DHX9 pulled down in NRL-IP in HEK293 cells, but there is no statistically significant difference in the reciprocal IP (DHX9-IP and blotting for NRL) (Figure 4C).

(5) The only data supporting the claim that NRL interacts with R-loops are presented in Figure 5A. This is a co-IP of R-loops and then blotting for NRL, DHX9, and DDX5. Here, there is no signal for DDX5, quantification of DHX9 signal shows no statistically significant difference between RNase H treated and untreated samples, while NRL shows a signal in RNase H treated sample. These data are not sufficient to make the statement regarding the interaction of NRL with R-loops.

(6) Regarding R-loop mapping, the data analysis is quite confusing. The authors perform two different types of analyses: either overall narrow and broad peak analysis or strand-specific analysis. Given that the authors used ssDRIP-seq, which is a method designed to map R-loops strand specifically, it is confusing to perform different types of analyses. Next, the peak analysis is usually performed based on the RNase H treated R-loop mapping; what does it mean then to have a pool of "Not R-loops", see Figure 6B? In that regard, what does the term "unstranded" R-loops mean? Based on the authors' definition, these are R-loops that do not fall within the group of strand-specific R-loops. The authors should explain the reasons behind these types of analyses and explain, what the biological relevance of these different types of R-loops is.

(7) It would be more useful to show the percent distribution of R-loops over the different genomic regions, instead of showing p-value enrichment, see Figure 6C.

(8) Based on the model presented, NRL regulates R-loop biology via interaction with RBPs, such as DHX9, a known R-loop resolution helicase. Given that the gene targets of NRL TF are known, it would be useful to then analyze the R-loop mapping data across this gene set.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors utilize biochemical approaches to determine and validate NRL protein-protein interactions to further understand the mechanisms by which the NRL transcription factor controls rod photoreceptor gene regulatory networks. Observations that NRL displays numerous protein-protein interactions with RNA-binding proteins, many of which are involved in R-loop biology, led the authors to investigate the role of RNA and R-loops in mediating protein-protein interactions and profile the co-localization of R-loops with NRL genomic occupancy.

Strengths:

Overall, the manuscript is very well written, providing succinct explanations of the observed results and potential implications. Additionally, the authors use multiple orthogonal techniques and tissue samples to reproduce and validate that NRL interacts with DHX9 and DDX5. Experiments also utilize specific assays to understand the influence of RNA and R-loops on protein-protein interactions. The authors also use state-of-the-art techniques to profile R-loop localization within the retina and integrate multiple previously established datasets to correlate R-loop presence with transcription factor binding and chromatin marks in an attempt to understand the significance of R-loops in the retina.

Weaknesses:

In general, the authors provide superficial interpretations of the data that fit a narrative but fail to provide alternative explanations or address caveats of the results. Specifically, many bands are present in interaction studies either in control lanes (GST controls) of Westerns or large amounts of background in PLA experiments. Additionally, the lack of experiments testing the functional significance of Nrl interactions or R-loops within the developing retina fails to provide novel biological insights into the regulation of gene regulatory networks other than, 'This could be a potentially important new mechanism'. Additionally, the authors test the necessity of RNA for NRL/DHX9 interactions but don't show RNA binding of NRL or DHX9 or the sufficiency of RNA to interfere/mediate protein-protein interactions. Recent work has highlighted the prevalence of RNA binding by transcription factors through Arginine Rich Motifs that are located near the DNA binding domains of transcription factors.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This impressive study presents a comprehensive scRNAseq atlas of the cranial region during neural induction, patterning, and morphogenesis. The authors collected a robust scRNAseq dataset covering six distinct developmental stages. The analysis focused on the neural tissue, resulting in a highly detailed temporal map of neural plate development. The findings demonstrate how different cell fates are organized in specific spatial patterns along the anterior-posterior and medial-lateral axes within the developing neural tissue. Additionally, the research utilized high-density single-cell RNA sequencing (scRNAseq) to reveal intricate spatial and temporal patterns independent of traditional spatial techniques.

The investigation utilized diffusion component analysis to spatially order cells based on their positioning along the anterior-posterior axis, corresponding to the forebrain, midbrain, hindbrain, and medial-lateral axis. By cross-referencing with MGI expression data, the identification of cell types was validated, affirming the expression patterns of numerous known genes and implicating others as differentially expressed along these axes. These findings significantly advance our understanding of the spatially regulated genes in neural tissues during early developmental stages. The emphasis on transcription factors, cell surface, and secreted proteins provides valuable insights into the intricate gene regulatory networks underpinning neural tissue patterning. Analysis of a second scRNAseq dataset where Shh signaling was inhibited by culturing embryos in SAG identified known and previously unknown transcripts regulated by Shh, including the Wnt pathway.

The data includes the neural plate and captures all major cell types in the head, including the mesoderm, endoderm, non-neural ectoderm, neural crest, notochord, and blood. With further analyses, this high-quality data promises to significantly advance our understanding of how these tissues develop in conjunction with the neural tissue, paving the way for future breakthroughs in developmental biology and genomics.

Strengths:

The data is well presented in the figures and thoroughly described in the text. The quality of the scRNAseq data and bioinformatic analysis is exceptional.

Weaknesses:

No weaknesses were identified by this reviewer.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Brooks et al. generate a gene expression atlas of the early embryonic cranial neural plate. They generate single-cell transcriptome data from early cranial neural plate cells at 6 consecutive stages between E7.5 to E9. Utilizing computational analysis they infer temporal gene expression dynamics and spatial gene expression patterns along the anterior-posterior and mediolateral axis of the neural plate. Subsequent comparison with known gene expression patterns revealed a good agreement with their inferred patterns, thus validating their approach. They then focus on Sonic Hedgehog (Shh) signalling, a key morphogen signal, whose activities partition the neural plate into distinct gene expression domains along the mediolateral axis. Single-cell transcriptome analysis of embryos in which the Shh pathway was pharmacologically activated throughout the neural plate revealed characteristic changes in gene expression along the mediolateral axis and the induction of distinct Shh-regulated gene expression programs in the developing fore-, mid-, and hindbrain.

Strengths:

This manuscript provides a comprehensive transcriptomic characterisation of the developing cranial neural plate, a part of the embryo that to my knowledge has not been extensively analysed by single-cell transcriptomic approaches. The single-cell sequencing data appears to be of high quality and will be a great resource for the wider scientific community. Moreover, the computational analysis is well executed and the validation of the sequencing data using published gene expression patterns is convincing. Taken together, this is a well-executed study that describes a relevant scientific resource for the wider scientific community.

Weaknesses:

Conceptually, the findings that gene expression patterns differ along the rostrocaudal, mediolateral, and temporal axes of the neural plate and that Shh signalling induces distinct target genes along the anterior-posterior axis of the nervous system are more expected than surprising. However, the strength of this manuscript is again the comprehensive characterization of the spatiotemporal gene expression patterns and how they change upon ectopic activation of the Shh pathway.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors performed a detailed single-cell analysis of the early embryonic cranial neural plate with unprecedented temporal resolution between embryonic days 7.5 and 8.75. They employed diffusion analysis to identify genes that correspond to different temporal and spatial locations within the embryo. Finally, they also examined the global response of cranial tissue to a Smoothened agonist.

Strengths:

Overall, this is an impressive resource, well-validated against sets of genes with known temporal and spatial patterns of expression. It will be of great value to investigators examining the early stages of neural plate patterning, neural progenitor diversity, and the roles of signaling molecules and gene regulatory networks controlling the regionalization and diversification of the neural plate.

Weaknesses:

The manuscript should be considered a resource. Experimental manipulation is limited to the analysis of neural plate cells that were cultured in vitro for 12 hours with SAG. Besides the identification of a significant set of previously unreported genes that are differentially expressed in the cranial neural plate, there is little new biological insight emerging from this study. Some additional analyses might help to highlight novel hypotheses arising from this remarkable resource.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

This paper focuses on secondary structure and homodimers in the HIV genome. The authors introduce a new method called HiCapR which reveals secondary structure, homodimer, and long-range interactions in the HIV genome. The experimental design and data analysis are well-documented and statistically sound. However, the manuscript could be further improved in the following aspects.

Major comments:

(1) Please give the full name of an abbreviation the first time it appears in the paper, for example, in L37, "5' UTR" "RRE".

(2) The introduction could be strengthened by discussing the limitations of existing methods for studying HIV RNA structures and interactions and highlighting the specific advantages of the HiCapR method.

(3) Please reorganize Results Part 1.

(4) Is there any reason that the authors mention "genome structure of SARS-CoV-2" in L95?

(5) L102: Please clarify the purpose of comparing "NL4-3" and "GX2005002." Additionally, could you explain what NL4-3 and GX2005002 are? The connection between NL4-3, GX2005002, and HIV appears to be missing.

(6) Figure 1A is not able to clearly present the innovation point of HiCapR.

(7) Please compare the contact metrics detected by HiCapR and current techniques like SHAPE on the local interactions to assess the accuracy of HiCapR in capturing local RNA interactions relative to established methods.

(8) The paper needs further language editing.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In the manuscript "Mapping HIV-1 RNA Structure, Homodimers, Long-Range Interactions and 1 persistent domains by HiCapR" Zhang et al report results from an omics-type approach to mapping RNA crosslinks within the HIV RNA genome under different conditions i.e. in infected cells and in virions. Reportedly, they used a previously published method which, in the present case, was improved for application to RNAs of low abundance.

Their claims include the detection of numerous long-range interactions, some of which differ between cellular and virion RNA. Further claims concern the detection and analysis of homodimers.

Strengths:

(1) The method developed here works with extremely little viral RNA input and allows for the comparison of RNA from infected cells versus virions.

(2) The findings, if validated properly, are certainly interesting to the community.

Weaknesses:

(1) On the communication level, the present version of the manuscript suffers from a number of shortcomings. I may be insufficiently familiar with habits in this community, but for RNA afficionados just a little bit outside of the viral-RNA-X-link community, the original method (reference 22) and the presumed improvement here are far too little explained, namely in something like three lines (98-100). This is not at all conducive to further reading.

(2) Experimentally, the manuscript seems to be based on a single biological replicate, so there is strong concern about reproducibility.

(3) The authors perform an extensive computational analysis from a limited number of datasets, which are in thorough need of experimental validation.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This study seeks to identify a molecular mechanism whereby the small molecule RY785 selectively inhibits Kv2.1 channels. Specifically, it sought to explain some of the functional differences that RY785 exhibits in experimental electrophysiology experiments as compared to other Kv inhibitors, namely the charged and non-specific inhibitor tetraethylammonium (TEA). This study used a recently published cryo-EM Kv2.1 channel structure in the open activated state and performed a series of multi-microsecond-long all-atom molecular dynamics simulations to study Kv2.1 channel conduction under the applied membrane voltage with and without RY785 or TEA present. While TEA directly blocks K+ permeation by occluding ion permeation pathway, RY785 binds to multiple non-polar residues near the hydrophobic gate of the channel driving it to a semi-closed non-conductive state. This mechanism was confirmed using an additional set of simulations and used to explain experimental electrophysiology data,

Strengths:

The total length of simulation time is impressive, totaling many tens of microseconds. The study develops forcefield parameters for the RY785 molecule based on extensive QM-based parameterization. The computed permeation rate of K+ ions through the channel observed under applied voltage conditions is in reasonable agreement with experimental estimates of the single-channel conductance. The study performed extensive simulations with the apo channel as well as both TEA and RY785. The simulations with TEA reasonably demonstrate that TEA directly blocks K+ permeation by binding in the center of the Kv2.1 channel cavity, preventing K+ ions from reaching the SCav site. The conclusion is that RY785 likely stabilizes a partially closed conformation of the Kv2.1 channel and thereby inhibits the K+ current. This conclusion is plausible given that RY785 makes stable contact with multiple hydrophobic residues in the S6 helix. This further provides a possible mechanism for the experimental observations that RY785 speeds up the deactivation kinetics of Kv2 channels from a previous experimental electrophysiology study.

Weaknesses:

The study, however, did not produce this semi-closed channel conformation and acknowledges that more direct simulation evidence would require extensive enhanced-sampling simulations. The study has not estimated the effect of RY785 binding on the protein-based hydrophobic pore constriction, which may further substantiate their proposed mechanism. And while the study quantified K+ permeation, it does not make any estimates of the ligand binding affinities or rates, which could have been potentially compared to the experiment and used to validate the models.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Zhang et al. investigate the conductivity and inhibition mechanisms of the Kv2.1 channel, focusing on the distinct effects of TEA and RY785 on Kv2 potassium channels. The study employs microsecond-scale molecular dynamics simulations to characterize K+ ion permeation and compound binding inhibition in the central pore.

Strengths:

The findings reveal a unique inhibition mechanism for RY785, which binds to the channel walls in the open structure while allowing reduced K+ flow. The study also proposes a long-range allosteric coupling between RY785 binding in the central pore and its effects on voltage-sensing domain dynamics. Overall, this well-organized paper presents a high-quality study with robust simulation and analysis methods, offering novel insights into voltage-gated ion channel inhibition that could prove valuable for future drug design efforts.

Weaknesses:

(1) The study neglects to consider the possibility of multiple binding sites for RY785, particularly given its impact on voltage sensors and gating currents. Specifically, there is potential for allosteric binding sites in the voltage-sensing domain (VSD), as some allosteric modulators with thiazole moieties are known to bind VSD domains in multiple voltage-gated sodium channels (Ahuja et al., 2015; Li et al., 2022; McCormack et al., 2013; Mulcahy et al., 2019).

(2) The study describes RY785 as a selective inhibitor of Kv2 channels and characterizes its binding residues through MD simulations. However, it is not clear whether the identified RY785-binding residues are indeed unique to Kv2 channels.

(3) The study does not clarify the details, rationale, and ramifications of a biasing potential to dihedral angles.

(4) The observation that the Kv2.1 central pore remains partially permeable to K+ ions when RY785 is bound is intriguing, yet it was not revealed whether polar groups of RY785 always interact with K+ ions.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this paper, the authors have leveraged Single-cell RNA sequencing of the various stages of the evolution of lung adenocarcinoma to identify the population of macrophages that contribute to tumor progression. They show that S100a4+ alveolar macrophages, active in fatty acid metabolic activity, such as palmitic acid metabolism, seem to drive the atypical adenomatous hyperplasia (AAH) stage. These macrophages also seem to induce angiogenesis promoting tumor growth. Similar types of macrophage infiltration were demonstrated in the progression of the human lung adenocarcinomas.

Strengths:

Identification of the metabolic pathways that promote angiogenesis-dependent progression of lung adenocarcinomas from early atypical changes to aggressive invasive phenotype could lead to the development of strategies to abort tumor progression.

Weaknesses:

(1) Can the authors demonstrate what are the functional specialization of the S100a4+ alveolar macrophages that promote the progression of the AAH to the more aggressive phenotype? What are the factors produced by these unique macrophages that induce tumor progression and invasiveness?

(2) Angiogenic factors are not only produced by the S100a4+ cells but also by pericytes and potentially by the tumor cells themselves. Then, how do these factors aberrantly trigger tumor angiogenesis that drives tumor growth?

(3) It is not clear how abnormal fatty acid uptake by the macrophages drives the progression of tumors.

(4) Does infusion or introduction of S100a4+ polarized macrophages promote the progression of AAH to a more aggressive phenotype?

(5) How does Anxa and Ramp1 induction in inflammatory cells induce angiogenesis and tumor progression?

(6) For the in vitro studies the authors might consider using primary tumor cells and not cell lines.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The work aims to further understand the role of macrophages in lung precancer/lung cancer evolution

Strengths:

(1) The use of single-cell RNA seq to provide comprehensive characterisation.

(2) Characterisation of cross-talk between macrophages and the lung precancerous cells.

(3) Functional validation of the effects of S100a4+ cells on lung precancerous cells using in vitro assays.

(4) Validation in human tissue samples of lung precancer / invasive lesions.

Weaknesses:

(1) The authors need to provide clarification of several points in the text.

(2) The authors need to carefully assess their assumptions regarding the role of macrophages in angiogenesis in precancerous lesions.

(3) The authors should discuss more broadly the current state of anti-macrophage therapies in the clinic.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, the authors consider the effects of eugenol (EUG), a plant-produced substance known to reduce oxidative stress in various cellular contexts via Nrf2, in alleviating the effects of streptozotocin (STZ), a known rodent beta cell toxin. They claim that EUG treatment would be useful for T1D therapy.

Strengths:

The experiments shown are sufficiently clear and rather convincing in documenting that eugenol can revert the effects of streptozotocin on animal physiology as well as beta cell oxidative stress and cell death via activation of Nrf2.

In the revised manuscript the authors corrected/explained most of the specific inconsistencies/mistakes pointed out.

However, they did not address the opening paragraph that points out major concerns. I summarize them below, together with some that were dealt with in their response but still remain unaddressed or not commented upon.

- STZ treatment cannot be used as a T1D model for the reasons I outlined in my previous letter. I would have been happy to see a response on that but they did not provide any. The manuscript is misleading in this important respect.

- Mechanistically, the manuscript remains at a rather superficial level. I highlighted some possibilities to enrich the manuscript but none was addressed even in the discussion.<br /> (a) How is eugenol penetrating the cell, is there a receptor that could be potentially targeted?<br /> (b) Are there intermediary proteins that convey the effect to the Nrf2/Keap1 complex or is eugenol directly disrupting their interaction?<br /> (c) What are direct downstream Nrf2 effectors?<br /> (d) Besides, streptozotocin is also a powerful DNA alkylating agent, are such effects relieved by eugenol?

- It is puzzling that all molecular analyses show a gradual reversion effect with increasing doses of eugenol but this gradual effect is apparently missing in many of the physiological parameters assessed in Figure 1, including the all-important OGTT assays. Can the authors interpret this? In the high eugenol group in the OGTT assays there is a group of mice that are clearly outliers. Most likely the STZ treatment for these mice was not efficient and their inclusion skews the results. Besides, it is important to assess differences among eugenol groups (one way ANOVA). The statistical tests provided are incomplete and sometimes not done correctly.

- Given that medical research is still heavily biased in favor of analyses in males and given that the authors have analyzed in Figure 1 a very large number of animals what are the results stratified by sex?

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This study by Jiang et al. aims to establish the streptozotocin (STZ)-induced type 1 diabetes mellitus (T1DM) mouse model in vivo and the STZ-induced pancreatic β cell MIN6 cell model in vitro to explore the protective effects of Eugenol (EUG) on T1DM. The authors tried to elucidate the potential mechanism by which EUG inhibits the NRF2-mediated anti-oxidative stress pathway. Overall, this study is well executed with solid data, offering an intriguing report from animal studies for a potential new treatment strategy for T1DM.

Strengths:

In vivo efficacy study is comprehensive and solid. Given STZ-induced T1DM is a devastating and harsh model, the in vivo efficacy from this compound is really impressive.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

It is evident that studying leukocyte extravasation in vitro is a challenge. One needs to include physiological flow, culture cells and isolate primary immune cells. Timing is of utmost importance and a reproducible setup essential. Extra challenges are met when extravasation kinetics in different vascular beds is required, e.g., across the blood-brain barrier. In this study, the authors describe a reliable and reproducible method to analyze leukocyte TEM under physiological flow conditions, including this analysis. That the software can also detect reverse TEM is a plus.

Strengths:

It is quite a challenge to get this assay reproducible and stable, in particular as there is flow included. Also for the analysis, there is currently no clear software analysis program, and many labs have their own methods. This paper gives the opportunity to unify the data and results obtained with this assay under label-free conditions. This should eventually lead to more solid and reproducible results.

Also, the comparison between manual and software analysis is appreciated.

Weaknesses:

The authors stress that it can be done in BBB models, but I would argue that it is much more broadly applicable. This is not necessarily a weakness of the study but more an opportunity to strengthen the method. So I would encourage the authors to rewrite some parts and make it more broadly applicable.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper develops an under-flow migration tracker to evaluate all the steps of the extravasation cascade of immune cells across the BBB. The algorithm is useful and has important applications.

Strengths:

The algorithm is almost as accurate as manual tracking and importantly saves time for researchers. The authors have discussed how their tool compares to other tracking methods.

Weaknesses:

Applicability can be questioned because the device used is 2D and physiological biology is in 3D. However, the authors have addressed this point in their revised manuscript.

Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

In this manuscript, the authors employed direct RNA sequencing with nanopores, enhanced by 5' end adaptor ligation, to comprehensively interrogate the human transcriptome at single-molecule and nucleotide resolution. They conclude that cellular stress induces prevalent 5' end RNA decay that is coupled to translation and ribosome occupancy. Contrary to the literature, they found that, unlike typical RNA decay models in normal conditions, stress-induced RNA decay is dependent on XRN1 but does not depend on the removal of the poly(A) tail. The findings presented are interesting and the authors fully established these paradigm-shifting findings using cutting-edge technologies.

Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

In the manuscript "Full-length direct RNA sequencing uncovers stress-granule dependent RNA decay upon cellular stress", Dar, Malla, and colleagues use direct RNA sequencing on nanopores to characterize the transcriptome after arsenite and oxidative stress. They observe a population of transcripts that are shortened during stress. The authors hypothesize that this shortening is mediated by the 5'-3' exonuclease XRN1, as XRN1 knockdown results in longer transcripts. Interestingly, the authors do not observe a polyA-tail shortening, which is typically thought to precede decapping and XRN1-mediated transcript decay. Finally, the authors use G3BP1 knockout cells to demonstrate that stress granule formation is required for the observed transcript shortening. The manuscript contains intriguing findings of interest to the mRNA decay community.

Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

The work by Dar et al. examines RNA metabolism under cellular stress, focusing on stress-granule-dependent RNA decay. It employs direct RNA sequencing with a Nanopore-based method, revealing that cellular stress induces prevalent 5' end RNA decay that is coupled to translation and ribosome occupancy but is independent of the shortening of the poly(A) tail. This decay, however, is dependent on XRN1 and enriched in the stress granule transcriptome. Notably, inhibiting stress granule formation in G3BP1/2-null cells restores the RNA length to the same level as wild-type. It suppresses stress-induced decay, identifying RNA decay as a critical determinant of RNA metabolism during cellular stress and highlighting its dependence on stress-granule formation. This is an exciting and novel discovery utilizing innovative sequencing methods to studying mRNA decay.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors report an fMRI investigation of the neural mechanisms by which selective attention allows capacity-limited perceptual systems to preferentially represent task-relevant visual stimuli. Specifically, they examine competitive interactions between two simultaneously-presented items from different categories, to reveal how task-directed attention to one of them modulates the activity of brain regions that respond to both. The specific hypothesis is that attention will bias responses to be more like those elicited by the relevant object presented on its own, and further that this modulation will be stronger for more dissimilar stimulus pairs. This pattern was confirmed in univariate analyses that measured the mass response of a priori regions of interest, as well as multivariate analyses that considered the patterns of evoked activity within the same regions. The authors follow these neuroimaging results with a simulation study that favours a "tuning" mechanism of attention (enhanced responses to highly effective stimuli, and suppression for ineffective stimuli) to explain this pattern.

Strengths:

The manuscript clearly articulates a core issue in the cognitive neuroscience of attention, namely the need to understand how limited perceptual systems cope with complex environments in the service of the observer's goals. The use of a priori regions of interest (and a control region), and the inclusion of both univariate and multivariate analyses as well as a simple model, are further strengths. The authors carefully derive clear indices of attentional effects (for both univariate and multivariate analyses) which makes explication of their findings easy to follow.

Weaknesses:

Direct estimation of baseline responses may have improved the validity of the modelling. The presentation of transparently overlapping items has some methodological advantages, but somewhat limits the ecological validity of connections to real-world visual "clutter".

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This article investigated the relationship between different intensities of exercise training and intestinal barrier dysfunction, and further explores the possible mechanisms, including the contribution of stress response, inflammatory response, gut microbiota alterations, and derived metabolites.

Strengths:

This article mainly focused on different aspects of the phenotypes and the morphology of intestinal barrier dysfunction induced by exercise training.

Weaknesses:

This article lacks the verification of the association of causality among various phenotypes and lacks a comprehensive understanding of the underlying mechanisms of how exercise contributes to intestinal barrier dysfunction.

(1) For example, the author claimed that heat shock and ischemia are the causes of intestinal epithelial damage caused by exercise, and it is not only evidenced by detecting the expression of a few regulators, such as HSF and HSP70 after exercise; and by Immunohistochemical analysis of intestinal morphology and inflammation.

(2) Many kinds of intestinal bacteria could produce short-chain fatty acids, such as Faecalibacterium Prausnitzii, did the authors check their abundance in the intestine after exercise training?

(3) How to define exercise intensity? Was VO2 Max testing used in this study?

(4) As the strict control, it is recommended to set 4 groups of exercise training groups: daily vigorous exercise training, daily moderate exercise training, daily vigorous exercise training with intermittent rest days, and daily moderate exercise training with intermittent rest days.

(5) Are there any differences in diet and metabolism between different groups of mice, which may affect the phenotypes, especially the composition and the the diverstiy of gut microbiota?

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Lian et al. provide novel and exciting findings related to exercise-induced intestinal injury that have many implications for those engaging in any kind of training protocol. The authors continue to provide data demonstrating that different forms of exercise training impart a unique signature to the gut microbiota. The paper is well-written, easy to follow, and contains ample information in all sections. The figures are displayed in a clear and comprehensible format, with elegant images. I do have a few concerns regarding some aspects of the paper listed below, but otherwise, I feel that the authors clearly state their objectives, implement valid methods, and summarize their findings with the appropriate conclusions given their experimental constraints.

(1) The authors performed extensive experiments demonstrating the immediate effects of a bout of exercise on intestinal integrity throughout a 6-week training program. Additionally, the authors go as far as to show that successive exercise sessions appear to augment the observed damage. This is very important and noteworthy data. But I wonder, had the endpoint collections been taken 24 hours+ after the last exercise bout, would the findings be different? My concern is that the 1-hour time point is biased towards seeing more damage. I understand the acute effects of exercise occur and are important to report, but they can be transient, and adaptations ensue. My main concern is that the data shows the onset of the initial damage, but nothing addresses an adaptive or recovery response that could counter the observed exercise-induced intestinal injury. Even metrics such as stool consistency/ pellets per hour/ abnormal defecation measurements could indicate the function of the GI system after exercise and may offer more information related to damage vs recovery.

(2) An additional concern arises with the model of forced treadmill running. It was previously shown that forced treadmill running resulted in more gut damage compared to voluntary wheel running, with or without dextran sodium sulfate-induced colitis (PMID: 23707215). This type of training appears to be very important in initiating damage to the GI. Understanding how much of this is related to the chosen exercise protocol, forced treadmill running, will be very important for future experiments. Exercise intensity has been suggested to be a major factor in exercise-induced intestinal damage. Therefore, the group designated as MOD-EX in this paper may be over the intensity threshold that limits GI damage. The protocols used in this manuscript may be inherently biased towards enhancing exercise-induced GI damage, which is not necessarily negative, especially when a damaging protocol is needed. However, how much this relates to and can be translated to humans is not clear and needs further experimentation.

(3) I think the comparison between groups at the specified time point is important, but I believe additional comparisons should be included that show within-group differences across each time point. For example, in the Mod group, does FITC- dextran change between 4 and 6 weeks? Are there morphological change differences between 2, 4, and 6 weeks within each group? Essentially addressing a progression in damage as a function of the duration of exercise training. The authors clearly show exercise-induced damage to the GI, but we do not know how this damage is handled or if the continuation of exercise continues to reinforce the disruption in the epithelial cells.

(4) The authors describe the purpose of this study as being to identify key regulators of the destruction and reconstruction process of the GI after exercise (introduction lines 128-129). While the authors did sufficient work to describe certain contributing factors, I do not believe they have provided compelling data on the key regulators of exercise-induced intestinal injury, at least experimentally they did not perform exhaustive experiments to identify such. Nor did the authors include data showing any kind of reconstruction that occurs in the GI after exercise. I believe the authors need to revise this statement to reflect that they investigated certain or specific regulators of the damage response in the intestines after exercise training.

(5) Was water intake monitored and recorded per group? If so I think it would be important to include in the supplemental data. Fluid intake/proper hydration can also contribute to changes in the microbiome and if the data is available, it would complement the food intake. If for any reason the exercise groups were taking in less fluid it may be a confounding factor that should be considered.

(6) Methods section - Treadmill running exercise protocol, line 143, I think there is a typo with "exercise straining". Did the authors mean to write "exercise training"? If it is indeed a typo, the same appears in the supplemental material under the same section.

(7) The microbiome analysis is sufficient, and the authors speculate on the possible consequences of the observed changes to the microbiota. However, I believe Figures 5E-G are misleading. The positive correlation is present because of the increase in gut leakiness and the observed exercise-induced increase in microbes. However the same correlation could be made with any positive adaptation to exercise and the observed gut leakiness. I believe those correlations, as described now, postulate these microbes (members of the family Lachnospiraceae) are associated with increased gut leakiness. However, this correlation is not compelling as it is, and additional experiments are warranted to justify this. It cannot be ruled out that the microbes are increasing due to exercise itself. Additionally, reports have suggested species within the Lachnospiraceae family do increase in response to exercise in mice and are associated with positive adaptations to exercise (PMID: 28862530, PMID: 37940330, PMID: 36517598). With this, it should be noted that Lachnospiraceae was also found to be negatively associated with endurance performance (PMID: 35002754). Therefore, specific species or stains of Lachnospiraceae may be highly responsive to exercise while others are not. Without deeper sequencing it is impossible to tease this out and therefore, the authors should be careful with any interpretation beyond discussing what is observed. Additionally, these correlations between Lachnospiraceae and gut leakiness should be interpreted cautiously or more experiments should be included which demonstrate these microbes are connected to gut leakiness. Much more research is needed to determine exactly what strains are positively and negatively associated with exercise adaptations and performance.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

In this study, Sarver and colleagues carried out an exhaustive analysis of the functioning of various components (Complex I/II/IV) of the mitochondrial electron transport chain (ETC) using a real-time cell metabolic analysis technique (commonly referred as Seahorse oxygen consumption rate (OCR) assay). The authors aimed to generate an atlas of ETC function in about 3 dozen tissue types isolated from all major mammalian organ systems. They used a recently published improvised method by which ETC function can be quantified in freshly frozen tissues. This method enabled them to collect data from almost all organ systems from the same mouse and use many biological replicates (10 mice/experiment) required for an unbiased and statistically robust analysis. Moreover, they studied the influence of sex (male and female) and aging (young adult and old age) on ETC function in these organ systems. The main findings of this study are (1) cells in the heart and kidneys have very active ETC complexes compared to other organ systems, (2) the sex of the mice has little influence on the ETC function, and (3) aging undermined the mitochondrial function in most tissue, but surprisingly in some tissue aging promoted the activity of ETC complexes (e.g., Quadriceps, plantaris muscle, and Diaphragm).

Comments on the second revision:

My previous concern remains unaddressed in the new revision. As I mentioned earlier, it is crucial for the authors to include a detailed discussion on the limitations of their method, specifically how maximal respiration does not accurately reflect the actual ATP production rate. Additionally, the authors should highlight the fact that data provided in the manuscript should be interpreted with caution.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors utilize a new technique to measure mitochondrial respiration from frozen tissue extracts, which goes around the historical problem of purifying mitochondria prior to analysis, a process that requires a fair amount of time and cannot be easily scaled up.

Strengths:

A comprehensive analysis of mitochondrial respiration across tissues, sexes, and two different ages provides foundational knowledge needed in the field.

Weaknesses:

While many of the findings are mostly descriptive, this paper provides a large amount of data for the community and can be used as a reference for further studies. As the authors suggest, this is a new atlas of mitochondrial function in mouse. The inclusion of a middle aged time point and a slightly older young point (3-6 months) would be beneficial to the study.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

The aim of the study was to map, a) whether different tissues exhibit different metabolic profiles (this is known already), what differences are found between female and male mice and how the profiles changes with age. In particular, the study recorded the activity of respirasomes, i.e. the concerted activity of mitochondrial respiratory complex chains consisting of CI+CIII2+CIV, CII+CIII2+CIV or CIV alone.

The strength is certainly the atlas of oxidative metabolism in the whole mouse body, the inclusion of the two different sexes and the comparison between young and old mice. The measurement was performed on frozen tissue, which is possible as already shown (Acin-Perez et al, EMBO J, 2020).

Weakness: The assay reveals the maximum capacity of enzyme activity, which is an artificial situation and may differ from in vivo respiration, as the authors themselves discuss. The material used was a very crude preparation of cells containing mitochondria and other cytosolic compounds and organelles. Thus, the conditions are not well defined and the respiratory chain activity was certainly uncoupled from ATP synthesis. Preparation of more pure mitochondria and testing for coupling would allow evaluation of additional parameters: P/O ratios, feedback mechanism, basal respiration, and ATP-coupled respiration, which reflect in vivo conditions much better. The discussion is rather descriptive and cautious and could lead to some speculations about what could cause the differences in respiration and also what consequences these could have, or what certain changes imply.<br /> Nevertheless, this study is an important step towards this kind of analysis.

Comments on the second revision:

I believe this is an important and interesting area of study, although I recognise that the assay which measures maximal enzyme activity under unphysiological conditions has its limitations. Nevertheless, it does seem possible to get a first glance of the respiratory situation in the respective tissue. There is a typo in the source data (Fig. xC) for skeletal muscle.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors used both the commonly used neonatal hyperoxia model as well as cell-type-specific genetic inactivation of Tgfbr2 models to study the basis of BPD. The bulk of the analyses focus on the mesenchymal cells. Results indicate impaired myofibroblast proliferation, resulting in decreased cell number. Inactivation of Etc2 in Pdgfra-lineaged cells, preventing cytokinesis of myofibroblasts, led to alveolar simplification. Together, the findings demonstrate that disrupted myofibroblast proliferation is a key contributor to BPD pathogenesis.

Strengths:

Overall, this comprehensive study of BPD models advances our understanding of the disease. The data are of high quality.

Comments on latest version:

In the revision, the authors addressed all critiques.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study the authors systematically explore mechanism(s) of impaired postnatal lung development with relevance to BPD (bronchopulmonary dysplasia) in two murine models of 'alveolar simplification', namely hyperoxia and epithelial loss of TGFb signaling. The work presented here is of great importance, given the limited treatment options for a clinical entity frequently encountered in newborns with high morbidity and mortality that is still poorly understood, and the unclear role of TGFb signaling, its signaling levels, and its cellular effects during secondary alveolar septum formation, a lung structure generating event heavily impacted by BPD. The authors show that hyperoxia and epithelial TGFb signaling loss have similar detrimental effects on lung structure and mechanical properties (emphysema-like phenotype) and are associated with significantly decreases numbers of PDGFRa-expressing cells, the major cell pool responsible for generation of postnatal myofibroblasts. They then use a single-cell transcriptomic approach combined with pathway enrichment analysis for both models to elucidate common factors that affect alveologenesis. Using cell communication analysis (NicheNet) between epithelial and myofibroblasts they confirm increased projected TGFb-TGFbR interactions and decreased projected interactions for PDGFA-PDGFRA, and other key pathways, such as SHH and WNT. Based on these results they go on to uncover in a sequela of experiments that surprisingly, increased TGFb appears reactive to postnatal lung injury and rather protective/homeostatic in nature, and the authors establish the requirement for alpha V integrins, but not the subtype alphaVbeta6, a known activator of TGFb signaling and implied in adult lung fibrosis. The authors then go beyond the TGFb axis evaluation to show that mere inhibition of proliferation by conditional KO of Ect2 in Pdgfra lineage results in alveolar simplification, pointing out the pivotal role of PDGFRa-expressing myofibroblasts for normal postnatal lung development.

Strengths:

(1) The approach including both pharmacologic and mechanistically-relevant transgenic interventions both of which produced consistent results provides robustness of the results presented here.

(2) Further adding to this robustness is the use of moderate levels of hyperoxia at 75% FiO2, which is less extreme than 100% FiO2 frequently used by others in the field, and therefore favors the null hypothesis.

(3) The prudent use of advancement single cell analysis tools, such as NicheNet to establish cell interactions through the pathways they tested and the validation of their scRNA-seq results by analysis of two external datasets. Delineation of the complexity of signals between different cell types during normal and perturbed lung development, such as attempted successfully in this study, will yield further insights into the underlying mechanism(s).

(4) The combined readout of lung morphometric (MLI) and lung physiologic parameters generates a clinically meaningful readout of lung structure and function.

(5) The systematic evaluation of TGFb signaling better determines the role in normal and postnatally-injured lung.

Weaknesses:

(1) While the study convincingly establishes the effect of lung injury on the proliferation of PDGFRa-expressing cells, differentiation is equally important. Characterization of PDGFRa expressing cells and tracking the changes in the injury models in the scRNA analysis, a key feature of this study, would benefit from expansion in this regard. PDGFRa lineage gives rise to several key fibroblast populations, including myofibroblasts, lipofibroblasts, and matrix-type fibroblasts (Collagen13a1, Collagen14a1). Lipofibroblasts constitute a significant fraction of PDGFRa+ cells, and expand in response to hyperoxic injury, as shown by others. Collagen13a1-expressing fibroblasts expand significantly under both conditions (Fig.3), and appear to contain a significant number of PDGFRa-expressing cells (Suppl Fig.1). Effects of the applied injuries on known differentiation markers for these populations should be documented. Another important aspect would be to evaluate whether the protective/homeostatic effect of TGFb signaling is by supporting differentiation of myofibroblasts. Postnatal Gli1 lineage gains expression of PDGFRa and differentiation markers, such as Acta2 (SMA) and Eln (Tropoelastin). Loss of PDGFRa expression was shown to alter Elastin and TGFb pathway related genes. TGFb signaling is tightly linked to the ECM via LTBPs, Fibrillins and Fibulins. An additional analysis in the aforementioned regards has great potential to more specifically identify the cell type(s) affected by the loss of TGFb signaling and allow analysis of their specific transcriptomic changes in response and underlying mechanism(s) to postnatal injury.

[The authors have added in detailed transcriptomic description of the fibroblast populations.]

(2) Of the three major lung abnormalities encountered in BPD, the authors focus on alveolarization impairment in great detail, to very limited extend on inflammation, and not on vascularization impairment. However, this would be important not only to better capture the established pathohistologic abnormalities of BPD, but also is needed since the authors alter TGFb signaling, and inflammatory and vascular phenotypes with developmental loss of TGFb signaling and its activators have been described. Since the authors make the point about absence of inflammation in their BPD model, it will be important to show the evidence.

[While this an important question, assessment of these components goes beyond the scope of this paper.]

(3) Conceptually it would be important that in the discussion the authors reconcile their findings in the experimental BPD models in light of human BPD and potential implications it might have on new ways to target key pathways and cell types for treatment. This allows the scientific community to formulate the next set of questions in a disease relevant manner.

[The authors have amended the discussion in this regard.]

Comments on latest version:

This reviewer would like to thank the authors for their efforts to address the concerns, in particular the better transcriptomic description of the fibroblast populations. The reviewer is well aware of the issues with PDGFRa antibodies that work on mouse tissue and also the problem with available reporters and lineage tracers in terms of haploinsufficiency.

There are no further concerns from this reviewer's side.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

This paper seeks to understand the role of alveolar myofibroblasts in the abnormal lung development after saccular stage injury.

Strengths:

(1) Multiple models of neonatal injury are used, hyperoxia and transgenic models that target alveolar myofibroblasts.

(2) The authors integrate their data with prior published single-cell data from neonatal hyperoxia injury models and demonstrate concordant findings.

Weaknesses:

(1) As the authors acknowledge in the discussion, there are no spatial and temporal validation data of the single-cell findings. As the ductal myofibroblasts has many overlapping genes, localizing and quantifying the loss of these cells in injury as a plausible mechanistic driver would greatly strengthen the conclusion.

(2) As they note in their response, this proved to be technically difficult and current Pdgfra-lineage trace tools are not without their own limitations.

Summary:

Taken together, this manuscript provides a rich data set from a model of irreversible neonatal lung injury. The single-cell analysis methods are well-articulated and the limitations are acknowledged, allowing this paper to provide a foundation for future work to spatially and temporally validate these claims.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Malaria parasites detoxify free heme molecules released from digested host hemoglobins by biomineralizing them into inert hemozoin. Thus, why malaria parasites retain PfHO, a dead enzyme that loses the capacity of catabolizing heme, is an outstanding question that has puzzled researchers for more than a decade. In the current manuscript, the authors addressed this question by first solving the crystal structure of PfHO and aligning it with structures of other heme oxygenase (HO) proteins. They found that the N-terminal 95 residues of PfHO, which failed to crystalize due to its disordered nature, may serve as signal and transit peptides for PfHO subcellular localization. This was confirmed by subsequent microscopic analysis with episomally expressed PfHO-GFP and a GFP reporter fused to the first 83 residues of PfHO (PfHO N-term-GFP). To investigate the functional importance of PfHO, the authors generated an anhydrotetracycline (aTC) controlled PfHO knockdown strain. Strikingly, the parasites lacking PfHO failed to grow and lost their apicoplast. Finally, by chromatin immunoprecipitation (ChIP), quantitative PCR/RT-PCR and growth assays, the authors showed that both the cognate N-terminus and HO-like domain were required for PfHO function as an apicoplast DNA interacting protein.

The authors systemically performed multidisciplinary approaches to address this difficult question: what is the function of this enzymatically dead PfHO? I enjoyed reading this manuscript and its thoughtful discussion. This study is not only of clinical importance for antimalarial treatments but also deepens our understanding of protein function evolution.

The authors proposed that PfHO interacts with apicoplast genome DNA via the electropositive N-terminus. Interestingly, these positively charged residues are not conserved between Plasmodium, Theileria and Babesia. I will be curious to follow the authors' future work to investigate the function of this electropositive N-terminus, possibly by comparative and mutagenesis analysis?

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Blackwell et al. investigated the structure, localization and physiological function of Plasmodium falciparum (Pf) heme oxygenase (HO). Pf and other malaria parasites scavenge and digest large amounts of hemoglobin from red cells for sustenance. To counter the potentially cytotoxic effects of heme, it is biomineralized into hemozoin and stored in the food vacuole. Another mechanism to counteract heme toxicity is through its enzymatic degradation via heme oxygenases. However, it was previously found by the authors that PfHO lacks the ability to catalyze heme degradation, raising the intriguing question of what the physiological function of PfHO is. In the current contribution, the authors determine that PfHO localizes to the apicoplast, determine its targeting sequence, establish the essentiality of PfHO for parasite viability, and determine that PfHO is required for proper maintenance of apicoplasts and apicoplast gene expression. In sum, the authors establish an essential physiological function for PfHO, thereby providing new insights into the role of PfHO in plasmodium metabolism.

Strengths:

The studies are rigorously conducted and the results of the experiments unambiguously support a role for PfHO as being an apicoplast targeted protein required for parasite viability and maintenance of apicoplasts.

Weaknesses:

While the studies conducted are rigorous and support the primary conclusions, the lack of experiments probing the molecular function of PfHO somewhat limits the impact of the work. Nevertheless, knowledge that PfHO is required for parasite viability and plays a role in the maintenance of apicoplasts is still an important advance.

Comments on revisions:

The authors thoughtfully addressed all the reviewer comments.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Mohseni and Elhaik have critically examined the widespread use of principal component analysis (PCA) in phylogenetic inferences within the discipline of physical anthropology. The authors present compelling evidence that PCA underperforms compared to machine learning (ML) classifiers. This excellent work not only challenges the reliability of PCA-based taxonomic inferences, but also adds to a growing body of literature questioning the application of PCA in physical anthropology, thereby initiating a fruitful discussion in our field. Moreover, it underscores the crucial need of external validation methods in such studies.

The authors have addressed nearly all of my comments, and my questions have been fully answered. The revised manuscript represents a significant improvement.

The new title more effectively conveys the central message emerging from this research; The revised introduction more precisely addresses the methodological challenges currently facing the discipline.<br /> I am equally amazed by the profound susceptibility of the PCA results, as demonstrated by the alterations introduced by the authors, and by the contrasting robustness of the ML classifiers. I trust that this contrast will spark a fruitful discussion about the application of both methods in our field. It should also inspire further research conducted by physical anthropologists to study the role of ML in this discipline.<br /> Lastly, and importantly, I believe the authors should be commended for addressing the broader implications of their work, particularly in relation to public perceptions of science (pp. 20-21).

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Mohseni and Elhaik challenge the widespread use of PCA as an analytical and interpretive tool in the study of geometric morphometrics. The standard approach in geometric morphometrics analysis involves Generalised Procrustes Analysis (GPA) followed by Principal Component Analysis (PCA). Recent research challenges PCA outcomes' accuracy, robustness, and reproducibility in morphometrics analysis. In this paper, the authors demonstrate that PCA is unreliable for such studies. Additionally, they test and compare several Machine-Learning methods and present MORPHIX, a Python package of their making that incorporates the tools necessary to perform morphometrics analysis using ML methods.

Mohseni and Elhaik conducted a set of thorough investigations to test PCA's accuracy, robustness, and reproducibility following renewed recent criticism and publications where this method was abused. Using a set of 2 and 3D morphometric benchmark data, the authors performed a traditional analysis using GPA and PCA, followed by a reanalysis of the data using alternative classifiers and rigorous testing of the different outcomes.

In the current paper, the authors evaluated eight ML methods and compared their classification accuracy to traditional PCA. Additionally, common occurrences in the attempted morphological classification of specimens, such as non-representative partial sampling, missing specimens, and missing landmarks, were simulated, and the performance of PCA vs ML methods was evaluated.

Comments on revisions:

I have gone over the revised manuscript and the detailed responses to the previous round of review. While there are places where I personally would have used slightly toned-down phrasing, the authors' get to set the tone of their manuscript, and I will not argue with that any further.

In general, the restructuring, addition of new paragraphs, minor revisions and new title make for a much better manuscript, which as stated in the previous review, will be a valuable resource for workers in the field.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors examine CD8 T cell selective pressure in early HCV infection using. They propose that after initial CD8-T mediated loss of virus fitness, in some participants around 3 months after infection, HCV acquires compensatory mutations and improved fitness leading to virus progression.

Strengths:

Throughout the paper, the authors apply well-established approaches in studies of acute to chronic HIV infection for studies of HCV infection. This lends rigor the to the authors' work.

Weaknesses:

(1) The Discussion could be strengthened by a direct discussion of the parallels/differences in results between HIV and HCV infections in terms of T cell selection, entropy, and fitness.

(2) In the Results, please describe the Barton model functionality and why the fitness landscape model was most applicable for studies of HCV viral diversity.

(3) Recognize the caveats of the HCV mapping data presented.

(4) The authors should provide more data or cite publications to support the authors' statement that HCV-specific CD8 T cell responses decline following infection.

(5) Similarly, as the authors' measurements of HCV T and humoral responses were not exhaustive, the text describing the decline of T cells with the onset of humoral immunity needs caveats or more rigorous discussion with citations (Discussion lines 319-321).

(6) What role does antigen drive play in these data -for both T can and antibody induction?

(7) Figure 3 - are the X and Y axes wrongly labelled? The Divergent ranges of population fitness do not make sense.

(8) Figure S3 - is the green line, average virus fitness?

(9) Use the term antibody epitopes, not B cell epitopes.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this work, Walker and collaborators study the evolution of hepatitis C virus (HCV) in a cohort of 14 subjects with recent HCV infections. They focus in particular on the interplay between HCV and the immune system, including the accumulation of mutations in CD8+ T cell epitopes to evade immunity. Using a computational method to estimate the fitness effects of HCV mutations, they find that viral fitness declines as the virus mutates to escape T-cell responses. In long-term infections, they found that viral fitness can rebound later in infection as HCV accumulates additional mutations.

Strengths:

This work is especially interesting for several reasons. Individuals who developed chronic infections were followed over fairly long times and, in most cases, samples of the viral population were obtained frequently. At the same time, the authors also measured CD8+ T cell and antibody responses to infection. The analysis of HCV evolution focused not only on variation within particular CD8+ T cell epitopes but also on the surrounding proteins. Overall, this work is notable for integrating information about HCV sequence evolution, host immune responses, and computational metrics of fitness and sequence variation. The evidence presented by the authors supports the main conclusions of the paper described above.

Weaknesses:

One notable weakness of the present version of the manuscript is a lack of clarity in the description of the method of fitness estimation. In the previous studies of HIV and HCV cited by the authors, fitness models were derived by fitting the model (equation between lines 435 and 436) to viral sequence data collected from many different individuals. In the section "Estimating survival fitness of viral variants," it is not entirely clear if Walker and collaborators have used the same approach (i.e., fitting the model to viral sequences from many individuals), or whether they have used the sequence data from each individual to produce models that are specific to each subject. If it is the former, then the authors should describe where these sequences were obtained and the statistics of the data.

If the fitness models were inferred based on the data from each subject, then more explanation is needed. In prior work, the use of these models to estimate fitness was justified by arguing that sequence variants common to many individuals are likely to be well-tolerated by the virus, while ones that are rare are likely to have high fitness costs. This justification is less clear for sequence variation within a single individual, where the viral population has had much less time to "explore" the sequence landscape. Nonetheless, there is precedent for this kind of analysis (see, e.g., Asti et al., PLoS Comput Biol 2016). If the authors took this approach, then this point should be discussed clearly and contrasted with the prior HIV and HCV studies.

Another important point for clarification is the definition of fitness. In the abstract, the authors note that multiple studies have shown that viral escape variants can have reduced fitness, "diminishing the survival of the viral strain within the host, and the capacity of the variant to survive future transmission events." It would be helpful to distinguish between this notion of fitness, which has sometimes been referred to as "intrinsic fitness," and a definition of fitness that describes the success of different viral strains within a particular individual, including the potential benefits of immune escape. In many cases, escape variants displace variants without escape mutations, showing that their ability to survive and replicate within a specific host is actually improved relative to variants without escape mutations. However, escape mutations may harm the virus's ability to replicate in other contexts. Given the major role that fitness plays in this paper, it would be helpful for readers to clearly discuss how fitness is defined and to distinguish between fitness within and between hosts (potentially also mentioning relevant concepts such as "transmission fitness," i.e., the relative ability of a particular variant to establish new infections).

One concern about the analysis is in the test of Shannon entropy as a way to quantify the rate of escape. The authors describe computing the entropy at multiple time points preceding the time when escape mutations were observed to fix in a particular epitope. Which entropy values were used to compare with the escape rate? If just the time point directly preceding the fixation of escape mutations, could escape mutations have already been present in the population at that time, increasing the entropy and thus drawing an association with the rate of escape? It would also be helpful for readers to include a definition of entropy in the methods, in addition to a reference to prior work. For example, it is not clear what is being averaged when "average SE" is described.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, De La Forest Divonne et al. build a repertory of hemocytes from adult Pacific oysters combining scRNAseq data with cytologic and biochemical analyses. Three categories of hemocytes were described previously in this species (i.e. blast, hyalinocyte, and granulocytes). Based on scRNAseq data, the authors identified 7 hemocyte clusters presenting distinct transcriptional signatures. Using Kegg pathway enrichment and RBGOA, the authors determined the main molecular features of the clusters. In parallel, using cytologic markers, the authors classified 7 populations of hemocytes (i.e. ML, H, BBL, ABL, SGC, BGC, and VC) presenting distinct sizes, nucleus sizes, acidophilic/basophilic, presence of pseudopods, cytoplasm/nucleus ratio and presence of granules. Then, the authors compared the phenotypic features with potential transcriptional signatures seen in the scRNAseq. The hemocytes were separated in a density gradient to enrich for specific subpopulations. The cell composition of each cell fraction was determined using cytologic markers and the cell fractions were analysed by quantitative PCR targeting major cluster markers (two per cluster). With this approach, the authors could assign cluster 7 to VC, cluster 2 to H, and cluster 3 to SGC. The other clusters did not show a clear association with this experimental approach. Using phagocytic assays, ROS, and copper monitoring, the authors showed that ML and SGC are phagocytic, ML produces ROS, and SGC and BGC accumulate copper. Then with the density gradient/qPCR approach, the authors identified the populations expressing anti-microbial peptides (ABL, BBL, and H). At last, the authors used Monocle to predict differentiation trajectories for each subgroup of hemocytes using cluster 4 as the progenitor subpopulation.

The manuscript provides a comprehensive characterisation of the diversity of circulating immune cells found in Pacific oysters.

Strengths:

The combination of the two approaches offers a more integrative view.

Hemocytes represent a very plastic cell population that has key roles in homeostatic and challenged conditions. Grasping the molecular features of these cells at the single-cell level will help understand their biology.

This type of study may help elucidate the diversification of immune cells in comparative studies and evolutionary immunology.

Weaknesses:

The study should be more cautious about the conclusions, include further analyses, and inscribe the work in a more general framework.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This work provides a comprehensive understanding of cellular immunity in bivalves. To precisely describe the hemocytes of the oyster C. gigas, the authors morphologically characterized seven distinct cell groups, which they then correlated with single-cell RNA sequencing analysis, also resulting in seven transcriptional profiles. They employed multiple strategies to establish relationships between each morphotype and the scRNAseq profile. The authors correlated the presence of marker genes from each cluster identified in scRNAseq with hemolymph fractions enriched for different hemocyte morphotypes. This approach allowed them to correlate three of the seven cell types, namely hyalinocytes (H), small granule cells (SGC), and vesicular cells (VC). A macrophage-like (ML) cell type was correlated through the expression of macrophage-specific genes and its capacity to produce reactive oxygen species. Three other cell types correspond to blast-like cells, including an immature blast cell type from which distinct hematopoietic lineages originate to give rise to H, SGC, VC, and ML cells. Additionally, ML cells and SGCs demonstrated phagocytic properties, with SGCs also involved in metal homeostasis. On the other hand, H cells, non-granular cells, and blast cells expressed antimicrobial peptides. This study thus provides a complete landscape of oyster hemocytes with functional validation linked to immune activities. This resource will be valuable for studying the impact of bacterial or viral infections in oysters.

Strengths:

The main strength of this study lies in its comprehensive and integrative approach, combining single-cell RNA sequencing, cytological analysis, cell fractionation, and functional assays to provide a robust characterization of hemocyte populations in Crassostrea gigas.

(1) The innovative use of marker genes, quantifying their expression within specific cell fractions, allows for precise annotation of different cellular clusters, bridging the gap between morphological observations and transcriptional profiles.

(2) The study provides detailed insights into the immune functions of different hemocyte types, including the identification of professional phagocytes, ROS-producing cells, and cells expressing antimicrobial peptides.

(3) The identification and analysis of transcription factors specific to different hemocyte types and lineages offer crucial insights into cell fate determination and differentiation processes in oyster immune cells.

(4) The authors significantly advance the understanding of oyster immune cell diversity by identifying and characterizing seven distinct hemocyte transcriptomic clusters and morphotypes.

These strengths collectively make this study a significant contribution to the field of invertebrate immunology, providing a comprehensive framework for understanding oyster hemocyte diversity and function.

Weaknesses:

(1) The authors performed scRNAseq/lineage analysis and cytological analysis on oysters from two different sources. The methodology of the study raises concerns about the consistency of the sample and the variability of the results. The specific post-processing of hemocytes for scRNAseq, such as cell filtering, might also affect cell populations or gene expression profiles. It's unclear if the seven hemocyte types and their proportions were consistent across both samples. This inconsistency may affect the correlation between morphological and transcriptomic data.

(2) The authors claim to use pathogen-free adult oysters (lines 95 and 119), but no supporting data is provided. It's unclear if the oysters were tested for bacterial and viral contaminations, particularly Vibrio and OsHV-1 μVar herpesvirus.

(3) The KEGG and Gene Ontology analyses, while informative, are very descriptive and lack interpretation. The use of heatmaps with dendrograms for grouping cell clusters and GO terms is not discussed in the results, missing an opportunity to explore cell-type relationships. The changing order of cell clusters across panels B, C, and D in Figure 2 makes it challenging to correlate with panel A and to compare across different GO term categories. The dendrograms suggest proximity between certain clusters (e.g., 4 and 1) across different GO term types, implying similarity in cell processes, but this is not discussed. Grouping GO terms as in Figure 2A, rather than by dendrogram, might provide a clearer visualization of main pathways. Lastly, a more integrated discussion linking GO term and KEGG pathway analyses could offer a more comprehensive view of cell type characteristics. The presentation of scRNAseq results lacks depth in interpretation, particularly regarding the potential roles of different cell types based on their transcriptional profiles and marker genes. Additionally, some figures (2B, C, D, and 7C to H) suffer from information overload and small size, further hampering readability and interpretation.

(4) The pseudotime analysis presented in the study provides modest additional information to what is already manifest from the clustering and UMAP visualization. The central and intermediate transcriptomic profile of cluster 4 relative to other clusters is apparent from the UMAP and the expression of shared marker genes across clusters (as shown in Figure 1D). The statement by the authors that 'the two types of professional phagocytes belong to the same granular cell lineage' (lines 594-596) should be formulated with more caution. While the pseudotime trajectory links macrophage-like (ML) and small granule-like (SGC) cells, this doesn't definitively establish a direct lineage relationship. Such trajectories can result from similarities in gene expression induced by factors other than lineage relationships, such as responses to environmental stimuli or cell cycle states. To conclusively establish this lineage relationship, additional experiments like cell lineage tracing would be necessary, if such tools are available for C. gigas.

(6) Given the mention of herpesvirus as a major oyster pathogen, the lack of discussion on genes associated with antiviral immunity is a notable omission. While KEGG pathway analysis associated herpesvirus with cluster 1, the specific genes involved are not elaborated upon.

(7) The discussion misses an opportunity for comparative analysis with related species. Specifically, a comparison of gene markers and cell populations with Crassostrea hongkongensis, could highlight similarities and differences across systems.

Conclusion:

The authors largely achieved their primary objective of providing a comprehensive characterization of oyster immune cells. They successfully integrated multiple approaches to identify and describe distinct hemocyte types. The correlation of these cell types with specific immune functions represents a significant advancement in understanding oyster immunity. However, certain aspects of their objectives have not been fully achieved. The lineage relationships proposed on the basis of pseudotime analysis, while interesting, require further experimental validation. The potential of antiviral defense mechanisms, an important aspect of oyster immunity, has not been discussed in depth.

This study is likely to have a significant impact on the field of invertebrate immunology, particularly in bivalve research. It provides a new standard for comprehensive immune cell characterization in invertebrates. The identification of specific markers for different hemocyte types will facilitate future research on oyster immunity. The proposed model of hemocyte lineages, while requiring further validation, offers a framework for studying hematopoiesis in bivalves.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

The paper addresses pivotal questions concerning the multifaceted functions of oyster hemocytes by integrating single-cell RNA sequencing (scRNA-seq) data with analyses of cell morphology, transcriptional profiles, and immune functions. In addition to investigating granulocyte cells, the study delves into the potential roles of blast and hyalinocyte cells. A key discovery highlighted in this research is the identification of cell types engaged in antimicrobial activities, encompassing processes such as phagocytosis, intracellular copper accumulation, oxidative bursts, and antimicrobial peptide synthesis.

A particularly intriguing aspect of the study lies in the exploration of hemocyte lineages, warranting further investigation, such as employing scRNA-seq on embryos at various developmental stages.

In the opinion of this reviewer, the discussion should compare and contrast the transcriptome characteristics of hemocytes, particularly granule cells, across the three species of bivalves, aligning with the published scRNA-seq studies in this field to elucidate the uniformities and variances in bivalve hemocytes.