Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This useful study provides incomplete evidence of an association between atovaquone-proguanil use (as well as toxoplasmosis seropositivity) and reduced Alzheimer's dementia risk. The study reinforces findings that VZ vaccine lowers AD risk and suggests that this vaccine may be an effect modifier of A-P's protective effect. Strengths of the study include two extremely large cohorts, including a massive validation cohort in the US. Statistical analyses are sound, and the effect sizes are significant and meaningful. The CI curves are certainly impressive.

Weaknesses include the inability to control for potentially important confounding variables. In my view, the findings are intriguing but remain correlative / hypothesis generating rather than causative. Significant mechanistic work needs to be done to link interventions which limit the impact of Toxoplasmosis and VZV reactivation on AD.

Weaknesses:

Major:

(1) Most of the individuals in the study received A-P for malaria prophylaxis as it is not first line for Toxo treatment. Many (probably most) of these individuals were likely to be Toxo negative (~15% seropositive in the US), thereby eliminating a potential benefit of the drug in most people in the cohort. Finally, A-P is not a first line treatment for Toxo because of lower efficacy.

(2) A-P exposure may be a marker of subtle demographic features not captured in the dataset such as wealth allowing for global travel and/or genetic predisposition to AD. This raises my suspicion of correlative rather than casual relationships between A-P exposure and AD reduction. The size of the cohort does not eliminate this issue, but rather narrows confidence intervals around potentially misleading odds ratios which have not been adjusted for the multitude of other variables driving incident AD.

(3) The relationship between herpes virus reactivation and Toxo reactivation seems speculative.

(4) A direct effect on A-P on AD lesions independent on infection is not considered as a hypothesis. Given the limitations above and effects on metabolic pathways, it probably should be. The Toxo hypothesis would be more convincing if the authors could demonstrate an enhanced effect of the drug in Toxo positive individuals without no effect in Toxo negative individuals.

Minor:

(5) "Clinically meaningful" should be eliminated from the discussion given that this is correlative evidence.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript examines the association between atovaquone/proguanil use, zoster vaccination, toxoplasmosis serostatus and Alzheimer's Disease, using 2 databases of claims data. The manuscript is well written and concise. The major concerns about the manuscript center around the indications of atovaquone/proguanil use, which would not typically be active against toxoplasmosis at doses given, and the lack of control for potential confounders in the analysis.

Strengths:

(1) Use of 2 databases of claims data.

(2) Unbiased review of medications associated with AD, which identified zoster vaccination associated with decreased risk of AD, replicating findings from other studies.

Weaknesses:

(1) Given that atovaquone/proguanil is likely to be given to a healthy population who is able to travel, concern that there are unmeasured confounders driving the association.

(2) The dose of atovaquone in atovaquone/proguanil is unlikely to be adequate suppression of toxo (much less for treatment/elimination of toxo), raising questions about the mechanism.

(3) Unmeasured bias in the small number of people who had toxoplasma serology in the TriNetX cohort.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The current manuscript investigates a regulatory axis containing Prmt1, which methylates RNA binding proteins and alters intron splicing outcomes and expression of matrix genes. Authors test the effects of deficient Prmt1, Sfpq, and various other factors, using a combination of bioinformatic analyses and wet-lab validation approaches. Authors show that intron retention often triggers NMD, contributing to aberrant gene expression regulation and craniofacial development. The revised manuscript introduces several complementary experiments that help to strengthen conclusions. For example, authors directly investigate NMD-mediated transcript turnover to better understand how retention contributes to expression changes in genes of interest, and they assess several additional factors downstream of Prmt1 to justify a centralized interested in the PRMT1/SFPQ axis.

Weaknesses:

However, some points remain unaddressed or unexplored, which could bolster conclusions. For example, the transcriptome data from knockdown experiments indicate robust exon skipping, suggesting that analysis of these patterns in parallel with intron retention could provide additional insights into the responsive gene programs. Given that SFPQ is known to have multiple regulatory roles, a more thorough investigation of its possible mechanisms of action during craniofacial development would allow for definitive conclusions about the isolated impact of SFPQ-dependent splicing. Although authors employ CUT&Tag analysis of Pol II binding at the promoters and across the gene body, at the current scope, no change in Pol II association (i.e., absence of transcriptional repression) does not directly indicate a lack of transcriptional regulation by other means (pause release, elongation rate or processivity, transcription termination, etc.). Without a more thorough investigation of these mechanisms, this confounds definitive claims about their relative contributions to the gene expression landscape.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Lima et al examines the role of Prmt1 and SFPQ in craniofacial development. Specifically, the authors test the idea that Prmt1 directly methylates specific proteins that results in intron retention in matrix proteins. The protein SFPQ is methylated by Prmt1 and functions downstream to mediate Prmt1 activity. The genes with retained introns activate the NMD pathway to reduce the RNA levels. This paper describes an interesting mechanism for the regulation of RNA levels during development.

Strengths:

The phenotypes support what the authors claim that Prmt1 is involved in craniofacial development and splicing. They use of state of the art sequencing to determine the specific genes that have intron retention and changes in gene expression is a strength.

Weaknesses:

The results now support the conclusions;however, it is still unclear how direct the relationship is between Prmt1 and SFPQ.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary

The authors determine the phylogenetic relation of the roughly two dozen wtf elements of 21 S. pombe isolates and show that none of them in the original S. pombe are essential for robust mitotic growth. It would be interesting to test their meiotic function by simply crossing each deletion mutant with the parent and analyzing spores for non-Mendelian inheritance. If this has been reported already, that information should be added to the MS. If not, I suggest the authors do these simple experiments and add this information.

Strengths:

The most interesting data (Fig. 4) show that one recombinant (wtfC4) between wtf18 and wtf23 produces in mitotic growth a poison counteracted by its own antidote but not by the parental antidotes. Again, it would be interesting to test this recombinant in a more natural setting - meiosis between it and each of the parents.

Weaknesses:

Some minor rewriting is needed.

Comments on Revision:

(1) The parameter for "maximum growth rate" in Figure 2D needs to be defined and put on the graph.

(2) On page 8, line 182, the authors should consider testing the hybrid wtf in meiosis using strain 975 of Leupold, which is h+, or another standard h+ strain. I don't think the antidote allele is needed; rather, it seems to me it would counter the lethality of the poison protein and should be omitted to test drive of the hybrid wtf. This is a simple experiment and would add considerably to the paper.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Wang and colleagues explore factors contributing to the diversification of wtf meiotic drivers. wtf genes are autonomous, single-gene poison-antidote meiotic drivers that encode both a spore-killing poison (short isoform) and an antidote to the poison (long isoform) through alternative transcriptional initiation. There are dozens of wtf drivers present in the genomes of various yeast species, yet the evolutionary forces driving their diversification remain largely unknown. This manuscript is written in a straightforward and effective manner, and the analyses and experiments are easy to follow and interpret. While I find the research question interesting and the experiments persuasive, they do not provide any deeper mechanistic understanding of this gene family.

Revision update:

Having read the response to the reviewers, I believe the major issues have been addressed. However, I would strongly suggest toning down the claim regarding the chimeric WTF element in the abstract, which currently reads

"As proof-of-principle, we generate a novel meiotic driver through artificial recombination between wtf drivers, and its encoded poison cannot be detoxified by the antidotes encoded by their parental wtf genes but can be detoxified by its own antidote."

As the author reports in their response, despite various attempts, it was not possible to show that this chimeric WTF element was indeed capable of meiotic drive in a natural context (not transgenic overexpression experiment). thus the authors should not claim they generated "a novel meiotic driver"

Strengths:

(1) The authors present a comprehensive compendium and analysis of the evolutionary relationships among wtf genes across 21 strains of S. pombe

(2) The authors found that a synthetic chimeric wtf gene, combining exons 1-5 of wtf23 and exon 6 of wtf18, behaves like a meiotic driver that could only be rescued by the chimeric antidote but neither of the parental antidotes. This is a very interesting observation that could account for their inception and diversification.

Weaknesses:

(1) Deletion strains

The authors separately deleted all 25 Wtf genes in the S. pombe ference strain. Next, the authors performed spot assay to evaluate the effect of wtf gene knockout on the yeast growth. They report no difference to the WT and conclude that the wtf genes might be largely neutral to the fitness of their carriers in the asexual life cycle at least in normal growth condition.

The authors could have conducted additional quantitative growth assays in yeast, such as growth curves or competition assays, which would have allowed them to detect subtle fitness effects that cannot be quantified with a spot assay. Furthermore, the authors do not rule out simpler explanations, such as genetic redundancy. This could have been addressed by crossing mutants of closely related paralogs or editing multiple wtf genes in the same genetic background.

Another concern is the lack of detailed information about the 25 knockout strains used in the study. There is no information provided on how these strains were generated or, more importantly, validated. Many of these wtf genes have close paralogs and are flanked by repetitive regions, which could complicate the generation of such deletion strains. As currently presented, these results would be difficult to replicate in other labs due to insufficient methodological details

Revision update:

The authors measured the fitness of the deletion strains using growth curves (Fig. 2C and D) and no significant differences were found, further supporting their claims. The requested information (details on the generation of the deletion strains) is now available in the methods section.

(2) Lack of controls

The authors found that a synthetic chimeric wtf gene, constructed by combining exons 1-5 of wtf23 and exon 6 of wtf18, behaves as a meiotic driver that can be rescued only by its corresponding chimeric antidote, but not by either of the parental antidotes (Figure 4F). In contrast, three other chimeric wtf genes did not display this property (Figure 4C-E). No additional experiments were conducted to explain these differences, and basic control experiments, such as verifying the expression of the chimeric constructs, were not performed to rule out trivial explanations. This should be at the very least discussed. Also, it would have been better to test additional chimeras.

Revision update:

The authors report that the expression of the construct was measured. However, they do not make reference to any specific figure or section of the main text. It would be very useful if the authors explicitly referenced where exactly changes were made (this is true for all changed made)

(3) Statistical analyses

In line 130 the authors state that: "Given complex phylogenetic mixing observed among wtf genes (Figure 1E), we tested whether recombination occurred. We detected signals of recombination in the 25 wtf genes of the S. pombe reference genome (p = 0) and in the wtf genes of the 21 S. pombe strains (p = 0) using pairwise homoplasy index (HPI) test. "<br /> Reporting a p-value of 0 is not appropriate. Please report exact P-values.

Revision update:

This has been addressed.

Joint Public Review:

While DNA sequence divergence, differential expression and differential methylation analysis have been conducted between humans and the great apes to study changes that "make us human", the role of lncRNAs and their impact on the human genome and biology has not been fully explored. In this study the authors computationally predict HSlncRNAs as well as their DNA Binding sites using a method they have developed previously and then examine these predicted regions with different types of enrichment analyses. Broadly the analysis are straightforward and after identifying these regions/HSlncRNAs they examined their effects using different external datasets.

Comments on the latest version from Reviewer #2:

I think this is as good as it is going to get, and I do appreciate that the authors are still engaging in good faith after all these rounds of revision, so I am happy to stop here! I do think the paper is significantly improved from the last time around, and the conclusions have been tempered significantly.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The present study evaluates the role of visual experience in shaping functional correlations between human extrastriate visual cortex and frontal regions. The authors used fMRI to assess "resting-state" temporal correlations in three groups: sighted adults, congenitally blind adults, and neonates. Previous research has already demonstrated differences in functional correlations between visual and frontal regions in sighted compared to early blind individuals. The novel contribution of the current study lies in the inclusion of an infant dataset, which allows for an assessment of the developmental origins of these differences.

The main results of the study reveal that correlations between prefrontal and visual regions are more prominent in the blind and infant groups, with the blind group exhibiting greater lateralization. Conversely, correlations between visual and somato-motor cortices are more prominent in sighted adults. Based on these data, the authors conclude that visual experience shapes these cortical networks through activity-dependent plasticity. This study provides novel insights into the impact of visual experience on the development of temporal correlations in the brain.

Strengths:

The dissociations in functional correlations observed among the sighted adult, congenitally blind, and neonate groups provide strong support for the main conclusion regarding postnatal experience-driven shaping of visual-frontal connectivity.

The neonatal data offers a unique and valuable developmental anchor for interpreting divergence between blind and sighted adults. This is a major advance over prior studies limited to adult comparisons.

Convergence with prior findings in the blind and sighted adult groups reinforces the reliability and external validity of the present results.

The split-half reliability analysis in the infant and adult data increases confidence in the robustness of the reported group differences.

Weaknesses:

The methodology cannot determine whether group differences in correlations reflect direct changes in communication between visual and frontal regions or indirect effects mediated by other structures.

The cross-sectional design cannot reveal the timecourse over which visual experience shapes connectivity between infancy and adulthood.

Whether the infant resting-state patterns imply similar functional capacity to blind adults (e.g., cross-modal task responses) remains untested.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have done a fantastic job addressing my remaining questions.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Tian et al. explore the developmental origins of cortical reorganization in blindness. Previous work has found that a set of regions in the occipital cortex show different functional responses and patterns of functional correlations in blind vs. sighted adults. Here, Tian et al. explore how this organisation arises over development, asking whether the infant brain looks more like the blind adult pattern, or more like the sighted adult pattern. Their analyses reveal that the answer depends on the particular networks investigated. Some functional connections in infants look more like blind than sighted adults; other functional connections look more like sighted than blind adults; and others fall somewhere in the middle, or show an altogether different pattern in infants compared with both sighted and blind adults.

Strengths:

The paper addresses very important questions about the "starting state" in the developing visual cortex, and how cortical networks are shaped by experience. Another clear strength lies in the unequivocal nature of many results. Many results have very large effect sizes, critical interactions between regions and groups are tested and found, and infant analyses are replicated in split halves of the data.

Weaknesses:

While potential roles of experience (e.g., visual, cross-modal) are discussed in detail, little consideration is given to the role of experience-independent maturation. The infants scanned are extremely young, only 2 weeks old. It is possible that the sighted adult pattern may still emerge later in infancy or childhood, regardless of infant visual experience. If so, the blind adult pattern may depend on blindness-related experience only (which may or may not reflect "visual" experience per se). In short, it is not clear that the age range studied is a clear-cut "starting point" for development, after which all change can be attributed to experience.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary

This study aimed to investigate whether the differences observed in the organization of visual brain networks between blind and sighted adults result from a reorganization of an early functional architecture due to blindness, or whether the early architecture is immature at birth and requires visual experience to develop functional connections. This question was investigated through the comparison of 3 groups of subjects with resting-state functional MRI (rs-fMRI). Based on convincing analyses, the study suggests that: 1) secondary visual cortices showed higher connectivity to prefrontal cortical regions (PFC) than to non-visual sensory areas (S1/M1 and A1) in infants like in blind adults, in contrast to sighted adults; 2) the V1 connectivity pattern of infants lies between that of sighted adults (showing stronger functional connectivity with non-visual sensory areas than with PFC) and that of blind adults (showing stronger functional connectivity with PFC than with non-visual sensory areas); 3) the laterality of the connectivity patterns of infants resembled those of sighted adults more than those of blind adults, but infants showed a less differentiated fronto-occipital connectivity pattern than adults.

Strengths

- The question investigated in this article is important for understanding the mechanisms of plasticity during typical and impaired development, and the approach considered, which compares different groups of subjects including, neonates/infants and blind adults, is highly original.

- Overall, the presented analyses are solid and well-detailed, and the results and discussion are convincing.

Weaknesses

- While it is informative to compare the "initial" state (close to birth) and the "final" states in blind and sighted adults to study the impact of post-natal and visual experience, this study does not analyze the chronology of this development and when the specialization of functional connections is completed. This would require investigating the evolution of functional connectivity of the visual system as a function of visual experience and thus as a function of age, at least during toddlerhood given the early and intense maturation of the visual system after birth. This could be achieved by analyzing different developmental periods using open databases such as the Baby Connectome Project.

- The rationale for grouping full-term neonates and preterm infants (scanned at term-equivalent age) is not understandable when seeking to perform comparisons with adults. Even if the study results do not show differences between full-terms and preterms in terms of functional connectivity differences between regions and of connectivity patterns, preterms group had different neurodevelopment and post-natal (including visual) experiences (even a few weeks might have an impact). And actually they show reduced connectivity strength systematically for all regions compared with full-terms (Sup Fig 7). Considering a more homogeneous group of neonates would have strengthened the study design.

- The rationale for presenting results on the connectivity of secondary visual cortices before the one of primary cortices (V1) could be clarified.

- The authors acknowledge the methodological difficulties for defining regions of interest (ROIs) in infants in a similar way as adults. Since the brain development is not homogeneous and synchronous across brain regions (in particular with the frontal and parietal lobes showing a delayed growth), this poses major problems for registration. This raises the question of whether the study findings could be biased by differences in ROI positioning across groups.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have addressed my specific recommendations, but some weaknesses in the study remain, particularly the inclusion of preterm infants alongside full-term neonates.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Lesser et al provide a comprehensive description of Drosophila wing proprioceptive sensory neurons at the electron microscopy resolution. This "tour-de-force", provides a strong foundation for future structural and functional research aimed at understanding wing motor control in Drosophila with implications to understanding wing control across other insects.

Strengths:

(1) Authors leverage previous research that described many of the fly wing proprioceptors, and combine this knowledge with EM connectome data such that they now provide a near-complete morphological description of all wing proprioceptors.

(2) Authors cleverly leverage genetic tools and EM connectome data to tie the location of proprioceptors on the wings with axonal projections in the connectome. This enables them to both align with previous literature as well as make some novel claims.

(3) In addition to providing a full description of wing proprioceptors, authors also identified a novel population of sensors on the wing tegula that make direct connections with the B1 wing motor neurons implicating the role of tegula in wing movements that was previously underappreciated.

(4) Despite being the most comprehensive description so far, it is reassuring that authors clearly state the missing elements in the discussion.

Weaknesses:

(1) Authors do their main analysis on data from FANC connectome but provide corresponding IDs for sensory neurons in the MANC connectome. I wonder how the connectivity matrix compares across FANC and MANC if the authors perform similar analysis as they have done in Fig. 2. This could be a valuable addition and potentially also pick up any sexual dimorphism.

(2) Authors speculate about presence of gap junctions based on density of mitochondria. I'm not convinced about this given mitochondrial densities could reflect other things that correlate with energy demands in sub-compartments.

Overall, I consider this an exceptional analysis which will be extremely valuable to the community.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Lesser et al. present an atlas of Drosophila wing sensory neurons. They proofread the axons of all sensory neurons in the wing nerve of an existing electron microscopy dataset, the female adult fly nerve cord (FANC) connectome. These reconstructed sensory axons were linked with light microscopy images of full-scale morphology to identify their origin in the periphery of the wing and encoded sensory modalities. The authors described the morphology and postsynaptic targets of proprioceptive neurons as well as previously unknown sensory neurons.

Strengths:

The authors present a valuable catalogue of wing sensory neurons, including previously undescribed sensory axons in the Drosophila wing. By providing both connectivity information with linked genetic drive lines, this research facilitates future work on the wing motor-sensory network and applications relating to Drosophila flight. The findings were linked to previous research as well as their putative role in the proprioceptive and nerve cord circuitry, providing testable hypotheses for future studies.

Weaknesses:

With future use as an atlas, it should be noted that the evidence is based on sensory neurons on only one side of the nerve cord. Fruit flies have stereotyped left/right hemispheres in the brain and left/right hemisegments in the nerve cord. Comparison of left and right neurons of the nervous system can give a sense of how robust the morphological and connectivity findings are. Unfortunately, this dataset has damage to the right side, making such comparisons unreliable.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors aim to identify the peripheral end organ origin in the fly's wing of all sensory neurons in the Anterior Dorsal Mesothoracic nerve. They reconstruct the neurons and their downstream partners in an electron microscopy volume of a female ventral nerve cord, analyse the resulting connectome and identify their origin with review of the literature and imaging of genetic driver lines. While some of the neurons were already known through previous work, the authors expand on the identification and create a near complete map of the wing mechanosensory neurons at synapse resolution.

Strengths:

The authors elegantly combine electron microscopy neuron morphology, connectomics and light microscopy methods to bridge the gap between fly wing sensory neuron anatomy and ventral nerve cord morphology. Further, they use EM ultrastructural observations to make predictions on the signaling modality of some of the sensory neurons and thus their function in flight.

The work is as comprehensive as state of the art methods allow to create a near complete map of the wing mechanosensory neurons. This work will be of importance to the field of fly connectomics and modelling of fly behavior as well as a useful resource to the Drosophila research community.

Through this comprehensive mapping of neurons to the connectome the authors create a lot of hypotheses on neuronal function partially already confirmed with the literature and partially to be tested in the future. The authors achieved their aim of mapping the periphery of the fly's wing to axonal projections in the ventral nerve cord, beautifully laying out their results to support their mapping.

The authors identify the neurons in a previously published connectome of a male fly ventral nerve cord to enable cross-individual analysis of connections and find no indication of sexual dimorphism at the sensory neuron level. Further, together with their companion paper Dhawan et al., 2025 describing the haltere sensory neurons in the same EM dataset, they cover the entire mechanosensory space involved in Drosophila flight.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The authors show experimentally that, in 2D, bacteria swim up a chemotactic gradient much more effectively when they are in the presence of lateral walls. Systematic experiments identify an optimum for chemotaxis for a channel width of ~8µm, a value close to the average radius of the circle trajectories of the unconfined bacteria in 2D. These chiral circles impose that the bacteria swim preferentially along the right-side wall, which indeed yields chemotaxis in the presence of a chemotactic gradient. These observations are backed by numerical simulations and a geometrical analysis.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

This paper addresses, through experiment and simulation, the combined effects of bacterial circular swimming near no-slip surfaces and chemotaxis in simple linear gradients. The authors have constructed a microfluidic device in which a gradient of L-aspartate is established, to which bacteria respond while swimming while confined in channels of different widths. There is a clear effect that the chemotactic drift velocity reaches a maximum in channel widths of about 8 microns, similar in size to the circular orbits that would prevail in the absence of side walls. Numerical studies of simplified models confirm this connection.

The experimental aspects of this study are well executed. The design of the microfluidic system is clever in that it allows a kind of "multiplexing" in which all the different channel widths are available to a given sample of bacteria.<br /> The authors have included a useful intuitive explanation of their results via a geometric model of the trajectories. In future work it would be interesting to analyze further the voluminous data on the trajectories of cells by formulating the mathematical problem in terms of a suitable Fokker-Planck equation for the probability distribution of swimming directions. In particular, this might help understand how incipient circular trajectories are interrupted by collisions with the walls and how this relates to enhanced chemotaxis.

The authors argue that these findings may have relevance to a number of physiological and ecological contexts. As these would be characterized by significant heterogeneity in pore sizes and geometries, further work will be necessary to translate the present results to those situations.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This is a careful and comprehensive study demonstrating that effector-dependent conformational switching of the MT lattice from compacted to expanded deploys the alpha tubulin C-terminal tails so as to enhance their ability to bind interactors.

Strengths:

The authors use 3 different sensors for the exposure of the alpha CTTs. They show that all 3 sensors report exposure of the alpha CTTs when the lattice is expanded by GMPCPP, or KIF1C, or a hydrolysis-deficient tubulin. They demonstrate that expansion-dependent exposure of the alpha CTTs works in tissue culture cells as well as in vitro.

Appraisal:

The authors have gone to considerable lengths to test their hypothesis that microtubule expansion favours deployment of the alpha tubulin C-terminal tail, allowing its interactors, including detyrosinase enzymes, to bind. There is a real prospect that this will change thinking in the field. One very interesting possibility, touched on by the authors, is that the requirement for MAP7 to engage kinesin with the MT might include a direct effect of MAP7 on lattice expansion.

Impact:

The possibility that the interactions of MAPS and motors with a particular MT or region feed forward to determine its future interaction patterns is made much more real. Genuinely exciting.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The unstructured α- and β-tubulin C-terminal tails (CTTs), which differ between tubulin isoforms, extend from the surface of the microtubule, are post-translationally modified, and help regulate the function of MAPs and motors. Their dynamics and extent of interactions with the microtubule lattice are not well understood. Hotta et al. explore this using a set of three distinct probes that bind to the CTTs of tyrosinated (native) α-tubulin. Under normal cellular conditions, these probes associate with microtubules only to a limited extent, but this binding can be enhanced by various manipulations thought to alter the tubulin lattice conformation (expanded or compact). These include small-molecule treatment (Taxol), changes in nucleotide state, and the binding of microtubule-associated proteins and motors. Overall, the authors conclude that microtubule lattice "expanders" promote probe binding, suggesting that the CTT is generally more accessible under these conditions. Consistent with this, detyrosination is enhanced. Mechanistically, molecular dynamics simulations indicate that the CTT may interact with the microtubule lattice at several sites, and that these interactions are affected by the tubulin nucleotide state.

Strengths and weaknesses:

Key strengths of the work include the use of three distinct probes that yield broadly consistent findings, and a wide variety of experimental manipulations (drugs, motors, MAPs) that collectively support the authors' conclusions, alongside a careful quantitative approach.

The challenges of studying the dynamics of a short, intrinsically disordered protein region within the complex environment of the cellular microtubule lattice, amid numerous other binders and regulators, should not be understated. While it is very plausible that the probes report on CTT accessibility as proposed, the possibility of confounding factors (e.g., effects on MAP or motor binding) cannot be ruled out. Sensitivity to the expression level clearly introduces additional complications. Likewise, for each individual "expander" or "compactor" manipulation, one must consider indirect consequences (e.g., masking of binding sites) in addition to direct effects on the lattice; however, this risk is mitigated by the collective observations all pointing in the same direction.

The discussion does a good job of placing the findings in context and acknowledging relevant caveats and limitations. Overall, this study introduces an interesting and provocative concept, well supported by experimental data, and provides a strong foundation for future work. This will be a valuable contribution to the field.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors investigate how the structural state of the microtubule lattice influences the accessibility of the α-tubulin C-terminal tail (CTT). By developing and applying new biosensors, they reveal that the tyrosinated CTT is largely inaccessible under normal conditions but becomes more accessible upon changes to the tubulin conformational state induced by taxol treatment, MAP expression, or GTP-hydrolysis-deficient tubulin. The combination of live imaging, biochemical assays, and simulations suggests that the lattice conformation regulates the exposure of the CTT, providing a potential mechanism for modulating interactions with microtubule-associated proteins. The work addresses a highly topical question in the microtubule field and proposes a new conceptual link between lattice spacing and tail accessibility for tubulin post-translational modification. Future work is required to distinguish CTT exposure in the microtubule lattice is sensitive to additional factors present in vivo but not in vitro.

Strengths:

(1) The study targets a highly relevant and emerging topic-the structural plasticity of the microtubule lattice and its regulatory implications.

(2) The biosensor design represents a methodological advance, enabling direct visualization of CTT accessibility in living cells.

(3) Integration of imaging, biochemical assays, and simulations provides a multi-scale perspective on lattice regulation.

(4) The conceptual framework proposed lattice conformation as a determinant of post-translational modification accessibility is novel and potentially impactful for understanding microtubule regulation.

[Editors' note: the authors have responded to the reviewers and this version was assessed by the editors.]

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary

The authors set out to define the genomic distribution and potential functional associations of acetylation of histone H3 lysine 115 (H3K115ac), a poorly characterized modification located in the globular domain of histone H3. Using native ChIP-seq and complementary genomic approaches in mouse embryonic stem cells and during differentiation to neural progenitor cells, they report that H3K115ac is enriched at CpG island promoters, active enhancers, and CTCF binding sites, where it preferentially localizes to regions containing fragile or subnucleosomal particles. These observations suggest that H3K115ac marks destabilized nucleosomes at key regulatory elements and may serve as an informative indicator of chromatin accessibility and regulatory activity.

Strengths

A major strength of this study is its focus on a histone post-translational modification in the globular domain, an area that has received far less attention than histone tail modifications despite strong evidence from structural and in vitro studies that such marks can directly influence nucleosome stability. The authors employ a wide range of complementary genomic analyses-including paired-end ChIP-seq, fragment size-resolved analyses, contour (V-) plots, and sucrose gradient fractionation-to consistently support the association of H3K115ac with fragile nucleosomes across promoters, enhancers, and architectural elements. The revised manuscript is careful in its interpretation and provides a coherent and internally consistent picture of how H3K115ac differs from other acetylation marks such as H3K27ac and H3K122ac. The datasets generated will be valuable to the chromatin community as a resource for further exploration of nucleosome dynamics at regulatory elements.

Weaknesses

The conclusions are largely correlative. While the authors provide strong evidence for the localization of H3K115ac to fragile nucleosomes, the work does not directly test whether this modification causally contributes to nucleosome destabilization or regulatory function in vivo. Questions regarding the enzymes responsible for depositing or removing H3K115ac and its direct functional consequences therefore remain open.

Overall assessment and impact

Overall, the authors largely achieve their stated aims by providing a detailed and well-supported characterization of H3K115ac distribution in mammalian chromatin and its association with fragile nucleosomes at regulatory elements. While mechanistic insight remains to be established, the study introduces a compelling new perspective on globular-domain histone acetylation and highlights H3K115ac as a potentially useful marker for identifying functionally important regulatory regions. The work is likely to stimulate further mechanistic studies and will be of broad interest to researchers studying chromatin structure, transcriptional regulation, and genome organization.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Kumar et al. aimed to assess the role of the understudied H3K115 acetylation mark, which is located in the nucleosomal core. To this end, the authors performed ChIP-seq experiments of H3K115ac in mouse embryonic stem cells as well as during differentiation into neuronal progenitor cells. Subsequent bioinformatic analyses revealed an association of H3K115ac with fragile nucleosomes at CpG island promoters, as well as with enhancers and CTCF binding sites. This is an interesting study, which provides important novel insights into the potential function of H3K115ac. However, the study is mainly descriptive, and functional experiments are missing.

Strengths:

(1) The authors present the first genome-wide profiling of H3K115ac and link this poorly characterized modification to fragile nucleosomes, CpG island promoters, enhancers, and CTCF binding sites.

(2) The study provides a valuable descriptive resource and raises intriguing hypotheses about the role of H3K115ac in chromatin regulation.

(3) The breadth of the bioinformatic analyses adds to the value of the dataset

Comments on revisions:

The authors sufficiently addressed my concerns.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Kumar et al. examine the H3K115 epigenetic mark located on the lateral surface of the histone core domain and present evidence that it may serve as a marker enriched at transcription start sites (TSSs) of active CpG island promoters and at polycomb-repressed promoters. They also note enrichment of the H3K115ac mark is found on fragile nucleosomes within nucleosome-depleted regions, on active enhancers and CTCF bound sites. They propose that these observations suggest that H3K115ac contributes to nucleosome destabilization and so may servers a marker of functionally important regulatory elements in mammalian genomes.

Strengths:

The authors present novel observations suggesting that acetylation of a histone residue in a core (versus on a histone tail) domain may serve a functional role in promoting transcription in CPG islands and polycomb-repressed promoters. They present a solid amount of confirmatory in silico data using appropriate methodology that supports the idea that H3K115ac mark may function to destabilize nucleosomes and contribute to regulating ESC differentiation. These findings are quite novel.

Weaknesses:

Additional experiments to confirm specificity of the antibodies used have been done, improving confidence in the study.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript uses primarily simulation tools to probe the pathway of cholesterol transport with the smoothened (SMO) protein. The pathway to the protein and within SMO is clearly discovered and interactions deemed important are tested experimentally to validate the model predictions.

Strengths:

The authors have clearly demonstrated how cholesterol might go from the membrane through SMO for the inner and outer leaflets of a symmetrical membrane model. The free energy profiles, structural conformations and cholesterol-residue interactions are clearly described.

Weaknesses:

None. I find the revised manuscript strong and the work should be published.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this work, the authors applied a range of computational methods to probe the translocation of cholesterol through the Smoothened receptor. They test whether cholesterol is more likely to enter the receptor straight from the outer leaflet of membrane or via a binding pathway in the inner leaflet first. Their data reveal that both pathways are plausible but that the free energy barriers of pathway 1 is lower suggesting this route is preferable. They also probe the pathway of cholesterol transport from the transmembrane region to the cysteine-rich domain (CRD).

Strengths:

A wide range of computational techniques are used, including potential of mean force calculations, adaptative sampling, dimensionality reduction using tICA, and MSM modelling. These are all applied in a rigorous manner and the data are very convincing. The computational work is an exemplar of a well-carried out study.

Their computational predictions are experimentally supported using mutagenesis, with an excellent agreement between their PMF and mRNA fold change data.

The data are described clearly and coherently, with excellent use of figures. They combine their findings into a mechanism for cholesterol transport, which on the whole seems sound.

Their methods are described well, and much of their analysis methods have been made available via GitHub, which is an additional strength.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

This manuscript presents a study combining molecular dynamics simulations and Hedgehog (Hh) pathway assays to investigate cholesterol translocation pathways to Smoothened (SMO), a G protein-coupled receptor central to Hedgehog signal transduction. The authors identify and characterize two putative cholesterol access routes to the transmembrane domain (TMD) of SMO and propose a model whereby cholesterol traverses through the TMD to the cysteine-rich domain (CRD), which is presented as the primary site of SMO activation.

The MD simulations and biochemical experiments are carefully executed and provide useful data.

Comments on revisions:

I appreciate the authors' detailed response and the substantial revisions made to the manuscript. The changes addressing Comments 3.1-3.5 have significantly improved the balance and framing of the work, and my primary concerns regarding overstatement and selective interpretation have been satisfactorily addressed.

The authors' rebuttal to my initial review includes extended argumentation regarding specific interpretations of prior studies and broader models of SMO regulation. These issues represent longstanding differences in interpretation that have already been discussed extensively in the literature and are not essential to evaluating the quality or conclusions of the present study.

For readers seeking a comprehensive and balanced overview of cholesterol-dependent SMO activation that integrates both CRD- and TMD-centered models, I would point to recent review articles (e.g., Zhang and Beachy, Nat Rev Mol Cell Biol2023). I do not feel it is productive to rehash these debates further in the context of this review, and I have no additional substantive concerns with the revised manuscript.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Willeke et al. hypothesize that macaque V4, like other visual areas, may exhibit a topographic functional organization. One challenge to studying the functional (tuning) organization of V4 is that neurons in V4 are selective for complex visual stimuli that are hard to parameterize. Thus, the authors leverage an approach comprising digital twins and most exciting stimuli (MEIs) that they have pioneered. This data-driven, deep-learning framework can effectively handle the difficulty of parametrizing relevant stimuli. They verify that the model-synthesized MEIs indeed drive V4 neurons more effectively than matched natural image controls. They then performed psychophysics experiments (on humans) along with the application of contrastive learning to illustrate that anatomically neighboring neurons often care about similar stimuli. Importantly, the weaknesses of the approach are clearly appreciated and discussed.

Comments:

(1) The correlation between predictions and data is 0.43. I'd agree with the authors that this is "reliable" and would recommend that they discuss how the fact that performance is not saturated influences the results.

(2) Modeling V4 using a CNN and claiming that the identified functional groups look like those found in artificial vision systems may be a bit circular.

(3) No architecture other than ResNet-50 was tested. This might be a major drawback, since the MEIs could very well be reflections of the architecture and also the statistics of the dataset, rather than intrinsic biological properties. Do the authors find the same result with different architectures as the basis of the goal-driven model?

(4) The closed-loop analysis seems to be using a much smaller sample of the recorded neurons - "resulting in n=55 neurons for the analysis of the closed-loop paradigm".

(5) A discussion on adversarial machine learning and the adversarial training that was used is lacking.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This is an ambitious and technically powerful study, investigating a long-standing question about the functional organization of area V4. The project combined large-scale single-unit electrophysiology in macaque V4 with deep learning-based activation maximization to characterize neuronal tuning in natural image space. The authors built predictive encoding models for V4 neurons and used these models to synthesize most exciting images (MEIs), which are subsequently validated in vivo using a closed-loop experimental paradigm.

Overall, the manuscript advances three main claims:

(1) Individual V4 neurons showed complex and highly structured selectivity for naturalistic visual features, including textures, curvatures, repeating patterns, and apparently eye-like motifs.

(2) Neurons recorded along the same linear probe penetration tended to have more similar MEIs than neurons recorded at different cortical locations (this similarity was supported by human psychophysics and by distances in a learned, contrastive image embedding space).

(3) MEIs clustered into a limited number of functional groups that resembled feature visualizations observed in deep convolutional neural networks.

Strengths:

(1) The study is important in that it is the first to apply activation maximization to neurons sampled at such fine spatial resolution. The authors used 32-channel linear silicon probes, spanning approximately 2 mm of cortical depth, with inter-contact spacing of roughly 60 µm. This enabled fine sampling across most of the cortical thickness of V4, substantially finer resolution than prior Utah-array or surface-biased approaches.

(2) A key strength is the direct in vivo validation of model-derived synthetic images by stimulating the same neurons used to build the models, a critical step often absent in other neural network-based encoding studies.

(3) More broadly, the study highlights the value of probing neuronal selectivity with rich, naturalistic stimulus spaces rather than relying exclusively on oversimplified stimuli such as Gabors.

Weaknesses:

(1) A central claim is that neurons sampled within the same penetration shared MEI tuning properties compared to neurons sampled in different penetrations because of functional organization. I am concerned about technical correlations in activity due to technical or methodology-related approaches (for example, shared reference or grounding) instead of functional organization alone. These recordings were obtained with linear silicon probes, and there have been observations that neuronal activity along this type of probe (including neuropixels probes) may be correlated above what prior work showed, using manually advanced single electrodes. For example, Fujita et al. (1992) showed finer micro-domains and systematic changes in selectivity along a cortical penetration, and it is not clear if that is true or detectable here. I think that the manuscript would be strengthened by a more thorough and explicit characterization of lower-level response correlations (at the neuronal electrophysiology level) prior to starting with fitting models. In particular, the authors could examine noise correlations along the electrode shaft (using the repeated test images, for example), as well as signal correlations in tuning, both within and across sessions. It would also be helpful to clarify whether these correlations depended on penetration day, recording chamber hole (how many were used?), or spatial separation between penetrations, and whether repeated use of the same hole yielded stable or changing correlations. Illustrations of the peristimulus time histogram changes across the shaft and across penetrations would also help. All of this would help us understand if the reports of clustering were technically inevitable due to the technique.

(2) It is difficult to understand a story of visual cortex neurons without more information about their receptive field locations and widths, particularly given that the stimulus was full-screen. I understand that there was a sparse random dot stimulus used to find the population RF, so it should be possible to visualize the individual and population RFs. Also, the investigators inferred the locations of the important patches using a masking algorithm, but where were those masks relative to the retinal image, and how distributed were they as a function of the shaft location? This would help us understand how similar each contact was.

(3) A major claim is that V4 MEIs formed groups that were comparable to those produced by artificial vision systems, "suggesting potential shared encoding strategies." The issue is that the "shared encoding strategy" might be the authors' use of this same class of models in the first place. It would be useful to know if different functional groups arise as a function of other encoding neural network models, beyond the robust-trained ResNet-50. I am unsure to what extent the reported clustering, depth-wise similarity, and correspondence to artificial features depended on architectural and training bias. It would substantially strengthen the manuscript to test whether a similar organizational structure would emerge using alternative encoding models, such as attention-based vision transformers, self-supervised visual representations, or other non-convolutional architectures. Another important point of contrast would be to examine the functional groups encoded by the ResNet architecture before its activations were fit to V4 neuronal activity: put simply, is ResNet just re-stating what it already knows?

(4) Several comparisons to prior work are presented largely at a qualitative level, without quantitative support. For example, the authors state that their MEIs are consistent with known tuning properties of macaque V4, such as selectivity for shape, curvature, and texture. However, this claim is not supported by explicit image analyses or metrics that would substantiate these correspondences beyond appeal to visual inspection. Incorporating quantitative analyses, for instance, measures of curvature, texture statistics, or comparisons to established stimulus sets, would strengthen these links to prior literature and clarify the relationship between the synthesized MEIs and previously characterized V4 tuning properties.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The author presents a new method for microRNA target prediction based on (1) a publicly available pretrained Sentence-BERT language model that the author fine-tunes using MeSH information and (2) downstream classification analysis for microRNA target prediction. In particular, the author's approach, named "miRTarDS", attempts to solve the microRNA target prediction problem by utilizing disease information (i.e., semantic similarity scores) from their language model. The author then compares the prediction performance with other sequence- and disease-based methods and attempts to show that miRTarDS is superior or at least comparable to existing methods. The author's general approach to this microRNA target prediction problem seems promising, but fails to demonstrate concrete computational evidence that miRTarDS outperforms other existing methods. The author's claim that disease information-based language models are sufficient is unfounded. The manuscript requires substantial rewriting and reorganization for readers with a strong background in biomedical research.

A major issue related to the author's claim of computational advance of miRTarDS: The author does not introduce existing biomedical-specific language models, and does not compare them against miRTarDS's fine-tuned model. The performance of miRTarDS is largely dependent on the semantic embedding of disease terms. The author shows in Figure 5 that MeSH-based fine-tuning leads to a substantial improvement in MeSH-based correlation compared to the publicly available pretrained SBERT model "multi-qa-MiniLM-L6-cos-v1" without sacrificing a large amount of BIOSSES-based correlation. However, the author does not compare the performance of MeSH- and BIOSSES-based correlation with existing language models such as ChatGPT, BioBERT, PubMedBERT, and more. Also, the substantial improvement in MeSH-based correlation is a mere indication that the MeSH-based fine-tuning strategy was reasonable and not that it's superior to the publicly available pretrained SBERT model "multi-qa-MiniLM-L6-cos-v1".

Another major issue is in the author's claim that disease-information from miRTarDS's language model is "sufficient" for accurate microRNA target prediction. Available microRNA targets with experimental evidence are largely biased for those with disease implications that have been reported in the biomedical literature. It's possible that their language model is biased by existing literature that has also been used to build microRNA target databases. Therefore, it is important that the author provides strong evidence that excludes the possibility of data leakage circularity. Similar concerns are prevalent across the manuscript, and so I highly recommend that the author reassess the evaluation frameworks and account for inflated performance, biased conclusions, and self-confirming results.

Last but not least, the manuscript requires a deeper and careful description and computational encoding of microRNA biology. I'd advise the author to include an expert in microRNA biology to improve the quality of this manuscript. For example, the author uses the pre-miRNA notation and replaces the mature miRNA notation to maintain computational encoding consistency across databases. However, the mature microRNA notation "the '-3p' or '-5p' is critical as the 3p and 5p mature microRNAs have different seed sequences and thus different mRNA targets. The 3p mature microRNA would most likely not target an mRNA targeted by the 5p mature microRNA.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study introduces a novel knowledge-driven approach, miRTarDS, which enables microRNA-Target Interaction (MTI) prediction by leveraging the disease association degree between a miRNA and its target gene. The core hypothesis is that this single feature is sufficient to distinguish experimentally validated functional MTIs from computationally predicted MTIs in a binary classification setting. To quantify the disease association, the authors fine-tuned a Sentence-BERT (SBERT) model to generate embeddings of disease descriptions and compute their semantic similarity. Using only this disease association feature, miRTarDS achieved an F1 score of 0.88 on the test set.

Strengths:

The primary strength is the innovative use of the disease association degree as an independent feature for MTI classification. In addition, this study successfully adapts and fine-tunes the Sentence-BERT (SBERT) model to quantify the semantic similarity between biomedical texts (disease descriptions). This approach establishes a critical pathway for integrating powerful language models and the vast growth in clinical/disease data into biochemical discovery, like MTI prediction.

Weaknesses:

The main weakness lies in its definition of the ground-truth dataset, which serves as a foundation for methodological evaluation. The study defines the Negative Set as computationally predicted MTIs that lack experimental evidence. However, the absence of experimental validation does not equate to non-functionality. Similarly, the miRAW sets are classified by whether the target and miRNA could form a stable duplex structure according to RNA structure prediction. This definition is biologically irrelevant, as duplex stability does not fully encapsulate the complex in vivo binding of miRNAs within the AGO protein complex.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

In this study, Ursu, Centeno, and Leblois record from the cerebellum of zebra finches and analyze neurons for auditory and song-related activity. The paper covers a lot of ground, ranging from lesions of the deep nuclei to song and white noise playback inside and outside of singing, and some level of survey of response types across cerebellar lobules, to provide foundational information on cerebellar relationships with song. There are a number of interesting observations in the study, to me most notably, the lack of responsivity of song-related activity in lobule IV to distorted auditory feedback. This observation is interesting in light of the perennial idea that the cerebellum may participate in rapid error corrections in other somatic control domains. If such a role were relevant for song, it stands to reason that some alteration of activity could be found there. Of course, on the other hand, zebra finches do not show rapid corrections during DAF, so perhaps the null result does not resolve much. Nevertheless, these data are important steps forward in establishing the involvement or lack of involvement in a broader set of brain structures beyond the song control system typically studied. While the study presents some interesting and important inroads, in my opinion, there was a general lack of 'polish' to the study that led to ambiguity in the report and confusing displays. This detracted from rigorous reporting of the findings.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

In this paper, the authors investigate the role of the cerebellum in song production in the zebra finch. First, they replicate prior studies to show that lesions of the lateral deep cerebellar nuclei (latDCN, primarily lobules IV-VII and IX) result in shorter duration syllables and song motifs than sham controls. The authors then record neural activity from the cerebellum during both passive auditory exposure in anesthetized birds and in freely singing animals. The authors claim that across multiple lobules, the cerebellum receives "non-selective" auditory inputs locked to syllable boundaries (based on acute recordings) and that cerebellar neurons display song-locked responses that are unaffected by auditory feedback perturbations (in chronic recordings). Moreover, the authors emphasized the distinct properties of lobule IV, which they argue is tightly locked to the onset and offset of syllables, and conclude that the cerebellum might contribute to the duration of song elements.

This paper presents novel and useful descriptions of song-related neural activity in the cerebellum. However, there are multiple serious issues. First, there are major issues with the design and presentation of the analysis of the electrophysiological data; based on these, it is unclear whether the authors are justified in some of their conclusions about neural tuning or are entitled to any of their claims about the specific tuning or function of neurons in particular lobules. Second, because the authors' conceptual framework seems to ignore possible non-auditory inputs to the cerebellum, their results on (minimal) effects of auditory manipulation during singing are over-interpreted with respect to providing evidence of a forward model. Third, the paper's central assertion - that the songbird cerebellum may contribute to the duration of vocal events during song - was firmly established by a prior lesion study (Radic et al., 2024). Although the authors do cite this prior study with respect to longer-term postlesion changes after cerebellar lesions, this paper also showed a large change in syllable duration immediately after cerebellar lesion (Figure 5 in Radic et al). The electrophysiological results in the present paper could provide valuable insights into the neural mechanisms underlying this already-described role of the songbird cerebellum; however, given the other concerns above, it is not clear that the authors have done so.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors investigated the detailed structural mechanism of activation of ABHD5 upon interaction with lipid structures (bilayer and LD). The authors used an elaborate multiscale computational workflow, incorporating coarse-grained, all-atom, and enhanced-sampling molecular dynamics simulations, to propose a structural mechanism for the interaction and activation of ABHD5, as well as its specific interaction with TAG in LD. The authors then corroborated these observations with experimental studies involving hydrogen-deuterium exchange coupled with mass spectrometry of wild-type ABHD5 to assess the structural and conformational changes in ABHD5 upon binding, as well as mutagenesis with cell-based and in vitro assays monitoring membrane association, defining specific interactions that infer ABHD5 to localize LD.

Strengths:

The manuscript is well-written, and the data are reported in high-quality figures. The experimental design and data analysis are rigorous and support the conclusion. One major strength is the multiscale computational work that reveals a mechanism for the insertion of ABHD5 into lipid bilayers and LD involving the insertion of the N-term portion and the lid helix motif. The design of the computational workflow was very elaborate, and the undertaking was quite extensive, with multiple strategies to (GC, all-atom MD and GaMD). The authors then elegantly generate a hypothesis from these observations to experimentally corroborate the proposed mechanism. Particularly, the HDX-MS data support the engagement of the two regions upon binding, and the fluorescence microscopy data show the role of specific residues in localization/specificity to LD.

Weaknesses:

The following limitation is noted. Central to this manuscript is the model, as observed computationally, that initial lipid interaction by the N-term insertion is followed by the insertion of lid-helix in the membrane, which undergoes a conformational switch in the process. However, HDX-MS reveals that, in the unbound form, the lid helix region displays a bimodal isotopic envelope, revealing two species, one with low uptake, suggesting a structured species and one with high uptake, suggesting a less structured species. It is unclear from the manuscript whether the authors think the bimodality fits EX1 regime kinetics or not. Regardless, the model of unbound ABHD5 shows a lid-helix region devoid of secondary structure (Figure 5A), which is more consistent with the unprotected species. The authors also mention that previous modeling had pointed to the high flexibility of the insertion domain. Upon binding, the lid-helix region seems to be ordered from computational observations and loses bimodality by HDX-MS with a deuterium uptake consistent with the protected species of the bimodal envelop in the unbound form. The authors fall short of interpreting or even discussing what the bimodality of the lid-helix represents in the unbound form. What does the protected species in the bimodal envelope represent? Is it a transition representing lid-helix formation and unfolding? Does it imply that interaction and insertion into the lipid structures are governed by conformational selection? This issue should be at the very least acknowledged and discussed, or optimally investigated by performing more integrative studies of the HDX-MS data with the extensive computational data at hand, using existing protection factor calculations or HDX-guided ensemble refinement methods.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript describes a combined computational and experimental approach to investigate the ABHD5 binding to and insertion into membranes.

Strengths:

Mutational experiments support computational findings obtained on ABHD5 membrane insertion with enhanced-sampling atomistic simulations.

Weaknesses:

While the addressed problem is interesting, I have several concerns, which fall into two categories:

(A) I see statements throughout the manuscript, e.g. on PNPLA activation, that are not supported by the results.

(B) The presentation of the computational and experimental results lacks in part clarity and detail.

Comments and questions on (A):

(1) I think the following statements in the abstract, which go beyond ABHD5 membrane binding, are not supported by the presented data:

the addition "to control lipolytic activation" in the 3rd sentence of the abstract.

further below ".... transforming ABHD5 into an active and membrane-localized regulator".

(2) The authors state in the Introduction (page numbers and line numbers are missing to be more specific):

"We hypothesize that binding of ABHD5 alters the nanoscale chemical and biophysical properties of the LD monolayer, which, combined with direct protein-protein interactions, enables PNPLA paralogs to access membrane-restricted substrates. This regulatory mechanism represents a paradigm shift from conventional enzyme-substrate interactions to sophisticated allosteric control systems that operate at membrane interfaces."

This hypothesis and the suggested paradigm shift are not supported by the data. Protein-protein interactions are not considered. What is meant by "sophisticated allosteric control"?

(3) The authors state in the Results section:

"We hypothesize that this TAG nanodomain is critical for ABHD5-activated TAG hydrolysis by PNPLA2." In previous pages, the authors state the location of the nanodomain: "TAG nanodomain under ABHD5".

If the nanodomain is located under ABHD5, how can it be accessible to PNPLA2? To my understanding, ABHD5 then sterically blocks access of PNPLA2 to the TAG nandomain.

(4) Another statement: "Our findings suggest that ABHD5-mediated membrane remodeling regulates lipolysis in part by regulating PNPLA2 access to its TAG substrate."

I don't see how the reported results support this statement (see point 3 above).

Comments and questions on (B):

(1) The authors state that the GaMD simulations started "from varying conformations observed during CGMD".

What is missing is a clear description of the CGMD simulation conformations, and the CG simulations as a whole, prior to the results section on GaMD. The authors use standard secondary and tertiary constraints in the Martini CG simulations. Do the authors observe some (constrained) conformational changes of ABHD5 already in the CG simulations (depending on the strength of the constraints)? Or do the conformational changes occur exclusively in the GaMD simulations? Both are fine, but this needs to be described.

(2) The authors write: "Three replicas of GaMD were performed."

Do these replicas lead to similar, or statistically identical, membrane-bound ABHD5 conformations? Is this information, i.e. a statistical analysis of differences in the replica runs, already included in the manuscript?

(3) The authors state on the hydrogen exchange results:

"HDX-MS provided orthogonal experimental evidence for the dynamics of the lid. In solution, a peptide (residues 200-226) spanning the lid helix displayed a bimodal isotopic distribution (Fig. S4), indicating the coexistence of different conformations. Upon LD binding, this distribution shifted to a single, low-exchange peak, demonstrating stabilization of the membrane-bound conformation with reduced solvent accessibility. These experimental observations corroborate our MD simulations."

I find this far too short to be understandable. Also, there are no computational results of ABHD5 in solution that show a bimodal conformational distribution of the lid helix, which is observed in the hydrogen exchange experiments. Which aspects of the MD simulations are corroborated?

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The goal of the study was to address the question of the degree to which social position in a group is a stable trait that persists across conditions. Reinwald et al. use a custom-built cage system with automated tracking and continuous testing for social dominance that does not require intervention by the experimenter. Remixing of individuals from different groups revealed that social position was rather stable and not really predictable from other measures that were taken. The authors conclude that social position is multifaceted but dependent on characteristics like personality traits.

Strengths:

(1) Reductionistic, highly controlled setting that allows for the control of many confounding variables.

(2) Very interesting and important question.

(3) Confirms the emergence of inter-individual behavior-driven differences in inbred mice in a shared environment.

(4) Innovative paradigm and experimental setup.

(5) Fresh perspective on an old question that makes the best use of modern technology.

(6) Intelligent use of behavioral and cognitive covariables to generate a non-social context.

(7) Bold and almost provocative conclusion, inviting discussion and further elaboration.

Weaknesses:

(1) Reductionistic, highly controlled setting that blends out much of the complexity of social behavior in a community.

(2) The motivation to enter the test tube is not "trait" (or at least not solely a trait) but the basic need to reach food and water; chasing behavior would be less dependent on this stimulus.

(3) Dominance is only one aspect of sociality, social structure is reduced to rank. The information that might lie in the chasing behavior is not optimally used to explain social behavior beyond the rank measure.

(4) Focus on rank bears the risk of overgeneralization for readers not familiar with the context.

(5) Conclusion only valid for the reductionistic setting, in which environment, social and non-social changes only within narrow limits, and in which the mouse population does not face challenges

(6) Animals are not naive at the beginning of the experiment, but are already several weeks old.

In summary, this is a wonderful study, but not one that is easy to interpret. The bold conclusion is valid only within the constraints of the study, but nevertheless points in an important direction. The paradigm is clever and could be used for many interesting follow-ups.

To define social position as a personality trait will elicit strong opposition and much debate; the nuances of the paper might be lost on many readers and call for the (re)-consideration of many concepts that are touched. I find this attitude a strength of the paper, but the approach bears the risk of misunderstanding.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript presents the "NoSeMaze", a novel automated platform for studying social behavior and cognitive performance in group-housed male mice. The authors report that mice form robust, transitive dominance hierarchies in this environment and that individual social rank remains largely stable across multiple group compositions. They further demonstrate that social dominance and aggressive behaviors, like chasing, are partially dissociable and that dominance traits are independent of non-social cognitive performance. The study includes a genetic manipulation of oxytocin receptor expression in the anterior olfactory nucleus, which showed only transient effects on social rank.

Strengths:

(1) Innovative Methodology:<br /> The NoSeMaze platform is a technically elegant and conceptually well-integrated system that enables fully automated, long-term monitoring of both social and cognitive behaviors in large groups of group-housed mice. It combines tube-test-like dominance contests, voluntary chase-escape interactions, and an embedded operant olfactory discrimination task within a single, ethologically relevant environment. This modular design allows for high-throughput, minimally invasive behavioral assessment without the need for repeated handling or artificial isolation.

(2) Experimental Scale and Rigor:<br /> The study includes 79 male mice and over 4,000 mouse-days of observation across multiple group reshufflings. The use of RFID-based identification, automated data logging, and longitudinal design enables robust quantification of individual trait stability and group-level social structure.

(3) Multidimensional Behavioral Profiling:<br /> The integration of social (tube dominance, proactive chasing), physical (body weight), and cognitive (olfactory learning task) measures offers a rich, multi-dimensional profile of each individual mouse. The authors' finding that social dominance traits and non-social cognitive performance are largely uncorrelated reinforces emerging models of orthogonal behavioral trait axes or "animal personalities".

(4) Clarity and Data Analysis:<br /> The analytical framework is well-suited to the study's complexity, with appropriate use of dominance metrics, mixed-effects models, and permutation tests. The analyses are clearly explained, statistically rigorous, and supported by transparent supplementary materials.

Weaknesses:

(1) Conceptual Novelty and Prior Work:<br /> While the study is carefully executed and methodologically innovative, several of its core findings reaffirm concepts already established in the literature. The emergence of stable, transitive social hierarchies, the persistence of individual differences in social behavior, and the presence of non-despotic social structures have all been previously reported in mice, including under semi-naturalistic conditions (e.g., Fan et al., 2019; Forkosh et al., 2019). Although this work extends those findings with greater behavioral resolution and scale, the manuscript would benefit from a clearer articulation of what is genuinely novel at the conceptual level, beyond the technological advance.

(2) Role of OXTR Deletion:<br /> The inclusion of the OXTR manipulation feels somewhat disconnected from the manuscript's central aims. The effects were minimal and transient, and the authors defer full interpretation to a separate study.

(3) Scope Limitations (Sex and Age):<br /> The study is limited to male mice, and although this is acknowledged, the title and overall framing imply broader generalizability. This sex-specific focus represents a common but problematic bias. Additionally, results from the older mouse cohort are under-discussed; if age had no effect, this should be explicitly stated.

(4) Ambiguity of Dominance as a Construct:<br /> While the study robustly quantifies social rank and hierarchy structure, the broader functional meaning of "dominance" remains unclear. As in prior work (e.g., Varholick et al., 2019), dominance rank here shows only weak associations with physical attributes (e.g., body weight), cognitive strategy, or neuromodulatory manipulation (OXTR deletion). This recurring pattern, where rank metrics are reliably established yet poorly predictive of other behavioral or biological traits, raises important questions about what such measures actually capture. In particular, it challenges the assumption that outcomes in paradigms like the tube test or chase frequency necessarily reflect dominance per se, rather than other constructs.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Reinwald et al. present the NoSeMaze, a semi-natural behavioral system designed to track social behaviors alongside reinforcement-learning in large groups of mice. Accumulating more than 4,000 days of behavioral monitoring, the authors demonstrate that social rank (determined by tube competitions) is a stable trait across shuffled cohorts and correlated with active chasing behaviors. The system also provides a solid platform for long-term measurements of reinforcement learning, including flexibility, response adaptation, and impulsiveness. Yet, the authors show that social ranking and chasing are mostly independent of these cognitive traits, and both seem mostly independent of oxytocin signaling in the AON.

Strengths:

(1) The neuroethological approach for automated tracking of several mice under semi-natural conditions is still rare in social behavioral research and should be encouraged.

(2) The assessment of dominance by two independent measures, i.e., spontaneous tube competitions and proactive chasing, is innovative and valuable.

(3) The integration of a long-term reinforcement-learning module into the semi-natural system provides novel opportunities to combine cognitive traits into social personality assessments.

(4) The open-source system provides a valuable resource for the scientific community.

Limitations:

(1) Apparent ambiguity and inconsistency in age structure and cohort participation across rounds, raising concerns about uncontrolled confounds.

(2) Chasing behavior appears more stable than tube-test competitions (Figure 4D vs. Figure 3D), which challenges the authors' decision to treat tube competitions as the primary basis for hierarchy determination.

Major concerns:

(1) Unclear and inconsistent handling of age groups and repeated sampling. The manuscript repeatedly refers to "younger" and "older" adults, but it is unclear whether age was ever controlled for or included in models. Some mice completed only one round, others 2-5 rounds, without explanation of the criteria or balancing.

(2) Stability of chasing appears stronger than the stability of tube competitions. Figure 4D shows highly consistent chasing behavior across weeks, while Figure 3D shows weaker and more variable correlations for tube-based David scores. This is also evident from Figure 5A-B,D. Thus, it appears that chasing, which serves to quantify dominance in similar semi-natural setups, may be a more reliable and behaviorally meaningful measure of dominance than the incidental tube competitions.

(3) Unbalanced participation across rounds compromises stability analyses. Stability analyses (e.g., ICCs, round-to-round correlations) assume comparable sampling across individuals. However, some mice contribute 1 round, others 2, 3, 4, and even 5 rounds. This imbalance may inflate stability estimates or confound group reshuffling effects, and the rationale for variable participation is not explained.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript uses serological data to quantify the effects of imprinting on subsequent influenza antibody responses. While this is an admirable goal, the HI dataset sounds impressive, and the authors developed a number of models, the manuscript came off as very dense and technical. One of the biggest pitfalls is that it is not easy to understand the lessons learned. The two Results section headers make clear statements - there was an imprinting signal in the HI titers, but much of this signal could also be seen in an imprinting-free simulation - and then the Discussion states a number of limitations. This is fine, but it leaves the reader wondering exactly how large an error would be introduced by ignoring imprinting effects altogether; alternatively, if imprinting is purposefully added, what would the expected effect size be? The comments below will provide some concrete steps to help clarify these points.

Major comments:

(1) Lines 107-133: The first Results section is a dense slog of information, and the reader is never given a good overview of what the imprinting coefficients exactly are. As the paper currently stands, if you do not start by reading the Methods, you will take away very little. I suggest adding a schematic for any of your models, showing what HI titers would be expected with/without imprinting effects. or age effects, or both, to tie in your modeling coefficients with quantities that all readers are familiar with.

(1.1) Clarify what the imprinting coefficient (y-axis in Figure 1A) looks like in this schematic.

(1.2) Another aspect that I missed: In addition to stating which models were best by BIC, what is the absolute effect size in the HI titers? During my initial reading, I had hoped that Figure 3 would answer this question, but it turned out to be just an overview of the dataset. I strongly suggest having such a figure to show the imprinting effect inferred by different models. What would the expected effect be if you kept someone's birth year constant but tuned their age? What if you kept their age at collection constant but tuned their birth year?

(1.3) It would also help to explain in your schematic what the x-axis labels (H1, H2, H1/H3) would look like in these scenarios, and what imprinting relative to H3 means.

(2) As mentioned above, it was hard to understand the takeaway messages, such as:

(2.1) A similar question would be: If you model antibody titers without imprinting, how far off would you be from the actual measurements (2x off, 4x off...)? If you add the imprinting effect, how much closer do you get?

(2.2) Are there specific age groups that require imprinting to be taken into consideration, since otherwise HI analyses will be markedly off?

(2.3) Are there age groups where imprinting can be safely ignored?

(3) HI titers against multiple H1 and H3 variants were measured, but it is unclear how these are used, and why titers against a single variant each season would not have worked equally well.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors were testing the hypothesis that hemagglutination inhibition antibody titers, measured later in life, might be higher against influenza viruses that belong to the same hemagglutinin classification group as the influenza virus that a person was likely first exposed to early in life. This is one conceptualization of a phenomenon termed immune imprinting, which may explain previously observed differences in susceptibility to severe influenza infection between cohorts that were likely first exposed to different hemagglutinin groups. The results of the analysis provide some support for this analysis. However, support for the hypothesis is not consistently observed across sensitivity analyses, and a simulation study finds that antibody patterns consistent with immune imprinting may arise due to other factors in the absence of true imprinting effects. Therefore, overall support for the hypothesis is weak. Nonetheless, this study is important in that it provides guidance and has developed an analytic methodology for additional studies in this area of research. These findings and methods may also be useful for other infectious diseases for which patterns consistent with immune imprinting have been observed.

Strengths:

The strengths of this study include the relatively large cohort data source with broad age representation, rigorous statistical methods, and the use of sensitivity and simulation analyses to assess the robustness of the results.

Weaknesses:

The model outcome includes antibody titers measured against many different viruses, and the imprinting parameter was defined at the subtype level. This may obscure specific imprinting effects related to finer structural similarities between first and subsequent virus exposures. This analysis focuses only on one component of the immune response to influenza; immune imprinting may also involve other immune mechanisms. The analysis was carried out in a Chinese cohort, and vaccination status of the cohort is not discussed; the results may not be generalizable to other populations, particularly if vaccination patterns differ.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This study employed a saccade-shifting sequential working memory paradigm, manipulating whether a saccade occurred after each memory array to directly compare retinotopic and transsaccadic working memory for both spatial location and color. Across four participant groups (young and older healthy adults, and patients with Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease), the authors found a consistent saccade-related cost specifically for spatial memory - but not for color - regardless of differences in memory precision. Using computational modeling, they demonstrate that data from healthy participants are best explained by a complex saccade-based updating model that incorporates distractor interference. Applying this model to the patient groups further elucidates the sources of spatial memory deficits in PD and AD. The authors then extend the model to explain copying deficits in these patient groups, providing evidence for the ecological validity of the proposed saccade-updating retinotopic mechanism.

Strengths:

Overall, the manuscript is well written, and the experimental design is both novel and appropriate for addressing the authors' key research questions. I found the study to be particularly comprehensive: it first characterizes saccade-related costs in healthy young adults, then replicates these findings in healthy older adults, demonstrating how this "remapping" cost in spatial working memory is age-independent. After establishing and validating the best-fitting model using data from both healthy groups, the authors apply this model to clinical populations to identify potential mechanisms underlying their spatial memory impairments. The computational modeling results offer a clearer framework for interpreting ambiguities between allocentric and retinotopic spatial representations, providing valuable insight into how the brain represents and updates visual information across saccades. Moreover, the findings from the older adult and patient groups highlight factors that may contribute to spatial working memory deficits in aging and neurological disease, underscoring the broader translational significance of this work.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have addressed my earlier concerns.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Zhao et al investigate how object location and colour are degraded across saccadic eye movements. They employ an eye-tracking task that requires participants to remember two sequentially presented items and subsequently report the colour and position of either one of these. Through counterbalancing of the presence or absence of saccades across items, the authors endeavour to dissect the impact of saccades independently on item location or colour. These behavioural findings form the basis of generative models designed to test competing, nested accounts of how stored information is stored and updated across saccades.

Strengths:

The combination of eye-tracking and generative modelling is a strength of the paper, which opens new perspectives into the impact of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease on the performance of visuospatial cognitive tests. The finding that the model parameters covary with clinical performance on the ROCF test is a nice example of a "computational assay" of disease.

Comments on revisions:

I thank the authors for their detailed responses and revisions arising from my feedback on the original manuscript. The revised manuscript adequately addresses all of my concerns.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript introduces a visual paradigm aimed at studying tran-saccadic memory.

The authors observe how memory of object location is selectively impaired across eye movements, whereas object colour memory is relatively immune to intervening eye movements.<br /> Results are reported for young and elderly healthy controls, as well as PD and AD participants.

A computational model is introduced to account for these results, indicating how early differences in memory encoding and decay (but not tran-saccadic updating per se) can account for the observed differences between healthy controls and clinical groups.

In the revised manuscript, the authors have addressed most of my initial concerns. The dataset is generally compelling, as it includes healthy younger and older adults as well as clinical populations. In addition, the authors propose an interesting modelling approach designed to isolate and characterize the key components underlying the observed patterns of results.

It is important to acknowledge potential limitations of the modelling approach, particularly the differences in the number of parameters across the tested models. As models with more parameters typically achieve better fit, this issue warrants careful consideration. The authors have substantially addressed this point in their rebuttal.

Concerns regarding the specificity of the findings were also raised and have been adequately discussed in the authors' response. Specifically, they clarified the selective impact of saccade-related costs on spatial working memory updating across eye movements-without affecting feature‑based memory (e.g., color) -as well as the specificity of the updating effects observed with the Rey-Osterrieth Complex Figure.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors of this paper note that although polyphosphate (polyP) is found throughout biology, the biological roles of polyP have been under-explored, especially in multicellular organisms. The authors created transgenic Drosophila that expressed a yeast enzyme that degrades polyP, targeting the enzyme to different subcellular compartments (cytosol, mitochondria, ER, and nucleus, terming these altered flies Cyto-FLYX, Mito-FLYX, etc.). The authors show the localization of polyP in various wild-type fruit fly cell types and demonstrate that the targeting vectors did indeed result in expression of the polyP degrading enzyme in the cells of the flies. They then go on to examine the effects of polyP depletion using just one of these targeting systems (the Cyto-FLYX). The primary findings from depletion of cytosolic polyP levels in these flies is that it accelerates eclosion and also appears to participate in hemolymph clotting. Perhaps surprisingly, the flies seemed otherwise healthy and appeared to have little other noticeable defects. The authors use transcriptomics to try to identify pathways altered by the cyto-FLYX construct degrading cytosolic polyP, and it seems likely that their findings in this regard will provide avenues for future investigation. And finally, although the authors found that eclosion is accelerated in pupae of Drosophila expressing the Cyto-FLYX construct, the reason why this happens remains unexplained.

Strengths:

The authors capitalize on the work of other investigators who had previously shown that expression of recombinant yeast exopolyphosphatase could be targeted to specific subcellular compartments to locally deplete polyP, and they also use a recombinant polyP binding protein (PPBD) developed by others to localize polyP. They combine this with the considerable power of Drosophila genetics to explore the roles of polyP by depleting it in specific compartments and cell types to tease out novel biological roles for polyP in a whole organism. This is a substantial advance.

Weaknesses:

Page 4 of Results (paragraph 1): I'm a bit concerned about the specificity of PPBD as a probe for polyP. The authors show that the fusion partner (GST) isn't responsible for the signal, but I don't think they directly demonstrate that PPBD is binding only to polyP. Could it also bind to other anionic substances? A useful control might be to digest the permeabilized cells and tissues with polyphosphatase prior to PPBD staining, and show that the staining is lost.

In the hemolymph clotting experiments, the authors collected 2 ul of hemolymph and then added 1 ul of their test substance (water or a polyP solution). They state that they added either 0.8 or 1.6 nmol polyP in these experiments (the description in the Results differs from that of the Methods). I calculate this will give a polyP concentration of 0.3 or 0.6 mM. This is an extraordinarily high polyP concentration, and is much in excess of the polyP concentrations used in most of the experiments testing the effects of polyP on clotting of mammalian plasma. Why did the authors choose this high polyP concentration? Did they try lower concentrations? It seems possible that too high a polyP concentration would actually have less clotting activity than the optimal polyP concentration.

In the revised version of the manuscript, the authors have productively responded to the previous criticisms. Their new data show stronger controls regarding the specificity of PPBD with regard to its interaction with polyP. The authors also have repeated their hemolymph clotting experiments with lower polyP concentrations, which are likely to be more physiological.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Sarkar, Bhandari, Jaiswal and colleagues establish a suite of quantitative and genetic tools to use Drosophila melanogaster as a model metazoan organism to study polyphosphate (polyP) biology. By adapting biochemical approaches for use in D. melanogaster, they identify a window of increased polyP levels during development. Using genetic tools, they find that depleting polyP from the cytoplasm alters the timing of metamorphosis, accelerationg eclosion. By adapting subcellular imaging approaches for D. melanogaster, they observe polyP in the nucleolus of several cell types. They further demonstrate that polyP localizes to cytoplasmic puncta in hemocytes, and further that depleting polyP from the cytoplasm of hemocytes impairs hemolymph clotting. Together, these findings establish D. melanogaster as a tractable system for advancing our understanding of polyP in metazoans.

Strengths:

• The FLYX system, combining cell type and compartment-specific expression of ScPpx1, provides a powerful tool for the polyP community.

• The finding that cytoplasmic polyP levels change during development and affect the timing of metamorphosis is an exciting first step in understanding the role of polyP in metazoan development, and possible polyP-related diseases.

• Given the significant existing body of work implicating polyP in the human blood clotting cascade, this study provides compelling evidence that polyP has an ancient role in clotting in metazoans.

Limitations:

• While the authors demonstrate that HA-ScPpx1 protein localizes to the target organelles in the various FLYX constructs, the capacity of these constructs to deplete polyP from the different cellular compartments is not shown. This is an important control to both demonstrate that the GTS-PPBD labeling protocol works, and also to establish the efficacy of compartment-specific depletion. While not necessary to do for all the constructs, it would be helpful to do this for the cyto-FLYX and nuc-FLYX.

• The cell biological data in this study clearly indicates that polyP is enriched in the nucleolus in multiple cell types, consistent with recent findings from other labs, and also that polyP affects gene expression during development. Given that the authors also generate the Nuc-FLYX construct to deplete polyP from the nucleus, it is surprising that they test how depleting cytoplasmic but not nuclear polyP affects development. However, providing these tools is a service to the community, and testing the phenotypic consequences of all the FLYX constructs may arguably be beyond the scope of this first study.

Editors' note: The authors have satisfactorily responded to our most major concerns related to the specificity of PPDB and the physiological levels of polyPs in the clotting experiments. We also recognise the limitations related to the depletion of polyP in other tissues and hope that these data will be made available soon.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper introduces a dual-pathway model for reconstructing naturalistic speech from intracranial ECoG data. It integrates an acoustic pathway (LSTM + HiFi-GAN for spectral detail) and a linguistic pathway (Transformer + Parler-TTS for linguistic content). Output from the two components are later merged via CosyVoice2.0 voice cloning. Using only 20 minutes of ECoG data per participant, the model achieves high acoustic fidelity and linguistic intelligibility.

Strengths:

(1) The proposed dual-pathway framework effectively integrates the strengths of neural-to-acoustic and neural-to-text decoding and aligns well with established neurobiological models of dual-stream processing in speech and language.

(2) The integrated approach achieves robust speech reconstruction using only 20 minutes of ECoG data per subject, demonstrating the efficiency of the proposed method.

(3) The use of multiple evaluation metrics (MOS, mel-spectrogram R², WER, PER) spanning acoustic, linguistic (phoneme and word), and perceptual dimensions, together with comparisons against noise-degraded baselines, adds strong quantitative rigor to the study.

Comments on revisions:

I thank the authors for their thorough efforts in addressing my previous concerns. I believe this revised version is significantly strengthened, and I have no further concerns.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The study by Li et al. proposes a dual-path framework that concurrently decodes acoustic and linguistic representations from ECoG recordings. By integrating advanced pre-trained AI models, the approach preserves both acoustic richness and linguistic intelligibility, and achieves a WER of 18.9% with a short (~20-minute) recording.

Overall, the study offers an advanced and promising framework for speech decoding. The method appears sound, and the results are clear and convincing. My main concerns are the need for additional control analyses and for more comparisons with existing models.

Strengths:

• This speech-decoding framework employs several advanced pre-trained DNN models, reaching superior performance (WER of 18.9%) with relatively short (~20-minute) neural recording.

• The dual-pathway design is elegant, and the study clearly demonstrates its necessity: The acoustic pathway enhances spectral fidelity while the linguistic pathway improves linguistic intelligibility.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have thoughtfully addressed my previous concerns about the weaknesses. I have no further concerns.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Chen et al. engineered and characterized a suite of next-generation GECIs for the Drosophila NMJ that allow for the visualization of calcium dynamics within the presynaptic compartment, at presynaptic active zones, and in the postsynaptic compartment. These GECIs include ratiometric presynaptic Scar8m (targeted to synaptic vesicles), ratiometric active zone localized Bar8f (targeted to the scaffold molecule BRP), and postsynaptic SynapGCaMP8m. The authors demonstrate that these new indicators are a large improvement on the widely used GCaMP6 and GCaMP7 series GECIs, with increased speed and sensitivity. They show that presynaptic Scar8m accurately captures presynaptic calcium dynamics with superior sensitivity to the GCaMP6 and GCaMP7 series and with similar kinetics to chemical dyes. The active-zone targeted Bar8f sensor was assessed for the ability to detect release-site specific nanodomain changes, but the authors concluded that this sensor is still too slow to accurately do so. Lastly, the use of postsynaptic SynapGCaMP8m was shown to enable the detection of quantal events with similar resolution to electrophysiological recordings. Finally, the authors developed a Python-based analysis software, CaFire, that enables automated quantification of evoked and spontaneous calcium signals. These tools will greatly expand our ability to detect activity at individual synapses without the need for chemical dyes or electrophysiology.

Strengths:

In this study, the authors rigorously compare their newly engineered GECIs to those previously used at the Drosophila NMJ, highlighting improvements in localization, speed, and sensitivity. These comparisons appropriately substantiate the authors claim that their GECIs are superior to the ones currently in use.

The authors demonstrate the ability of Scar8m to capture subtle changes in presynaptic calcium resulting from differences between MN-Ib and MN-Is terminals and from the induction of presynaptic homeostatic potentiation (PHP), rivaling the sensitivity of chemical dyes.

The improved postsynaptic SynapGCaMP8m is shown to approach the resolution of electrophysiology in resolving quantal events.

The authors created a publicly available pipeline that streamlines and standardizes analysis of calcium imaging data.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Calcium ions play a key role in synaptic transmission and plasticity. To improve calcium measurements at synaptic terminals, previous studies have targeted genetically encoded calcium indicators (GECIs) to pre- and postsynaptic locations. Here, Chen et al. improve these constructs by incorporating the latest GCaMP8 sensors and a stable red fluorescent protein to enable ratiometric measurements. Extensive characterization in the Drosophila neuromuscular junction demonstrates favorable performance of these new constructs relative to previous genetically encoded and synthetic calcium indicators in reporting synaptic calcium events. In addition, they develop a new analysis platform, 'CaFire', to facilitate automated quantification. Impressively, by positioning postsynaptic GCaMP8m near glutamate receptors, the authors show that their sensors can report miniature synaptic events with speed and sensitivity approaching that of intracellular electrophysiological recordings. These new sensors and the analysis platform provide a valuable tool for resolving synaptic events using all-optical methods.

Strength:

The authors present rigorous characterization of their sensors using well-established assays. They employ immunostaining and super-resolution STED microscopy to confirm correct subcellular targeting. Additionally, they quantify response amplitude, rise and decay kinetics, and provide side-by-side comparisons with earlier-generation GECIs and synthetic dyes. Importantly, they show that the new sensors can reproduce known differences in evoked Ca²⁺ responses between distinct nerve terminals. Finally, they present what appears to be the first simultaneous calcium imaging and intracellular mEPSP recording to directly assess the sensitivity of different sensors in detecting individual miniature synaptic events.

The revised version contains extensive new data and clarification that fully addressed my previous concerns. In particular, I appreciate the side-by-side comparison with synthetic calcium indicator OGB-1 and the cytosolic version of GCaMP8m (now presented in Figure 3), which compellingly supports the favorable performance of their new sensors.

Weakness:

I have only one remaining suggestion about the precision of terminology, which I do think is important. The authors clarified in the revision that they "define SNR operationally as the fractional fluorescence change (ΔF/F).", and basically present ΔF/F values whenever they mentioned about SNR. However, if the intention is to present ΔF/F comparisons, I would strongly suggest replacing all mentions of "SNR" in the manuscript with "ΔF/F" or "fractional/relative fluorescence change".

SNR and ΔF/F are fundamentally different quantities, each with a well-defined and distinct meaning: SNR measures fluorescence change relative to baseline fluctuations (noise), whereas ΔF/F measures fluorescence change relative to baseline fluorescence (F₀). While larger ΔF/F values often correlate with improved detectability, SNR also depends on additional factors such as indicator brightness, light collection efficiency, camera noise, and the stability of the experimental preparation. Referring to ΔF/F as SNR can therefore be misleading and may cause confusion for readers, particularly those from quantitative imaging backgrounds. Clarifying the terminology by consistently using ΔF/F would improve conceptual accuracy without requiring any reanalysis of the data.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Genetically encoded calcium indicators (GECIs) are essential tools in neurobiology and physiology. Technological constraints in targeting and kinetics of previous versions of GECIs have limited their application at the subcellular level. Chen et al. present a set of novel tools that overcome many of these limitations. Through systematic testing in the Drosophila NMJ, they demonstrate improved targeting of GCaMP variants to synaptic compartments and report enhanced brightness and temporal fidelity using members of the GCaMP8 series. These advancements are likely to facilitate more precise investigation of synaptic physiology. This manuscript could be improved by further testing the GECIs across physiologically relevant ranges of activity, including at high frequency and over long imaging sessions. Moreover, while the authors provide a custom software package (CaFire) for Ca2+ imaging analysis, comparisons to existing tools and more guidance for broader usability are needed.

In this revised version, Chen et al. answered most of our concerns. The tools developed here will be useful for the community.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This study presents a system for delivering precisely controlled cutaneous stimuli to freely moving mice by coupling markerless real-time tracking to transdermal optogenetic stimulation, using the tracking signal to direct a laser via galvanometer mirrors. The principal claims are that the system achieves sub-mm targeting accuracy with a latency of <100 ms. Due to the nature of mouse gait, this enables accurate targeting of forepaws even when mice are moving.

Strengths:

The study is of high quality and the evidence for the claims is convincing. There is increasing focus in neurobiology in studying neural function in freely moving animals, engaged in natural behaviour. However, a substantial challenge is how to deliver controlled stimuli to sense organs under such conditions. The system presented here constitutes notable progress towards such experiments in the somatosensory system and is, in my view, a highly significant development that will be of interest to a broad readership.

My comments on the original submission have been fully addressed.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Parkes et al. combined real-time keypoint tracking with transdermal activation of sensory neurons to examine the effects of recruitment of sensory neurons in freely moving mice. This builds on the authors' previous investigations involving transdermal stimulation of sensory neurons in stationary mice. They illustrate multiple scenarios in which their engineering improvements enable more sophisticated behavioral assessments, including 1) stimulation of animals in multiple states in large arenas, 2) multi-animal nociceptive behavior screening through thermal and optogenetic activation, and 3) stimulation of animals running through maze corridors. Overall, the experiments and the methodology, in particular, is written clearly. The revised manuscript nicely demonstrates a state-dependence in the behavioral response to activation of TrpV1 sensory neurons, which is a nice demonstration of how their real-time optogenetic stimulation capabilities can yield new insights into complex sensory processing.

Comments on revisions:

I agree that your revisions have substantially improved the clarity and quality of the work.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

To explore the diverse nature of somatosensation, Parkes et al. established and characterized a system for precise cutaneous stimulation of mice as they walk and run in naturalistic settings. This paper provides a framework for real-time body part tracking and targeted optical stimuli with high precision, ensuring reliable and consistent cutaneous stimulation. It can be adapted in somatosensation labs as a general technique to explore somatosensory stimulation and its impact on behavior, enabling rigorous investigation of behaviors that were previously difficult or impossible to study.

Strengths:

The authors characterized the closed-loop system to ensure that it is optically precise and can precisely target moving mice. The integration of accurate and consistent optogenetic stimulation of the cutaneous afferents allows systematic investigation of somatosensory subtypes during a variety of naturalistic behaviors. Although this study focused on nociceptors innervating the skin (Trpv1::ChR2 animals), this setup can be extended to other cutaneous sensory neuron subtypes, such as low-threshold mechanoreceptors and pruriceptors. This system can also be adapted for studying more complex behaviors, such as the maze assay and goal-directed movements.

Weaknesses:

Although the paper has strengths, its weakness is that some behavioral outputs could be analyzed in more detail to reveal different types of responses to painful cutaneous stimuli. For example, paw withdrawals were detected after optogenetically stimulating the paw (Figures 3E and 3F). Animals exhibit different types of responses to painful stimuli on the hindpaw in standard pain assays, such as paw lifting, biting, and flicking, each indicating a different level of pain. The output of this system is body part keypoints, which are the standard input to many existing tools. Analyzing these detailed keypoints would greatly strengthen this system by providing deeper biological insights into the role of somatosensation in naturalistic behaviors. Additionally, if the laser spot size could be reduced to a diameter of 2 mm², it would allow the activation of a smaller number of cutaneous afferents, or even a single one, across different skin types in the paw, such as glabrous or hairy skin.

Comments on revisions:

The authors successfully addressed all of my questions and concerns.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The study by Druker et al. shows that siRNA depletion of PHD1, but not PHD2, increases H3T3 phosphorylation in cells arrested in prometaphase. Additionally, the expression of wild-type RepoMan, but not the RepoMan P604A mutant, restored normal H3T3 phosphorylation localization in cells arrested in prometaphase. Furthermore, the study demonstrates that expression of the RepoMan P604A mutant leads to defects in chromosome alignment and segregation, resulting in increased cell death. These data support a role for PHD1-mediated prolyl hydroxylation in controlling progression through mitosis. This occurs, at least in part, by hydroxylating RepoMan at P604, which regulates its interaction with PP2A during chromosome alignment.

Strengths:

The data support most of the conclusions made.

Comments on revisions:

Actually, I am still concerned that PHD1 binds to RepoMan endogenously and directly. Furthermore, the authors have not yet provided genetic evidence demonstrating that PHD1 controls progression through mitosis by catalyzing the hydroxylation of RepoMan.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This is a concise and interesting article on the role of PHD1-mediated proline hydroxylation of proline residue 604 on RepoMan and its impact on RepoMan-PP1 interactions with phosphatase PP2A-B56 complex leading to dephosphorylation of H3T3 on chromosomes during mitosis. Through biochemical and imaging tools, the authors delineate a key mechanism in regulation of progression of the cell cycle. The experiments performed are conclusive with well-designed controls.

Strengths:

The authors have utilized cutting edge imaging and colocalization detection technologies to infer the conclusions in the manuscript.

Weaknesses:

Lack of in vitro reconstitution and binding data.

Comments on revisions:

Thank you, authors, for providing the statistics and siRNA validations. While I maintain that the manuscript's claims can benefit a lot from the in vitro experiments and that a Pro-Ala mutation may not be a good mimic for Pro-hydroxylation, I understand the authors' reservations and restrictions regarding the new experiments. Despite the lacunae, the manuscript is a good advance for the field.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript is a comprehensive molecular and cell biological characterisation of the effects of P604 hydroxylation by PHD1 on RepoMan, a regulatory subunit of the PPIgamma complex. Conclusions are generally supported by results. Overall, a timely study that demonstrates the interplay between hydroxylase signalling and the cell cycle. The study extends the scope of prolyl hydroxylase signalling beyond canonical hypoxia pathways, providing a concrete example of hydroxylation regulating PP1 holoenzyme composition and function during mitosis.

The work would benefit from additional biochemical validation of direct targeting to characterise the specificity and mode of recognition, but this is beyond the scope of the study.

Strengths:

Compelling data, characterisation of how P604 hydroxylation induces the interaction between RepoMan and a phosphatase complex, resulting in loading of RepoMan on Chromatin. Knockdown of PHD1 mimics the disruption of the complex and loss of the regulation of the hydroxylation site by PHD1, resulting in mitotic defects.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In their paper entitled "Alpha-Band Phase Modulates Perceptual Sensitivity by Changing Internal Noise and Sensory Tuning," Pilipenko et al. investigate how pre-stimulus alpha phase influences near-threshold visual perception. The authors aim to clarify whether alpha phase primarily shifts the criterion, multiplicatively amplifies signals, or changes the effective variance and tuning of sensory evidence. Six observers completed many thousands of trials in a double-pass Gabor-in-noise detection task while an EEG was recorded. The authors combine signal detection theory, phase-resolved analyses, and reverse correlation to test mechanistic predictions. The experimental design and analysis pipeline provide a clear conceptual scaffold, with SDT-based schematic models that make the empirical results accessible even for readers who are not specialists in classification-image methods.

Strengths:

The study presents a coherent and well-executed investigation with several notable strengths. First, the main behavioral and EEG results in Figure 2 demonstrate robust pre-stimulus coupling between alpha phase and d′ across a substantial portion of the pre-stimulus interval, with little evidence that the criterion is modulated to a comparable extent. The inverse phasic relationship between hit and false-alarm rates maps clearly onto the variance-reduction account, and the response-consistency analysis offers an intuitive behavioral complement: when two identical stimuli are both presented at the participant's optimal phase, responses are more consistent than when one or both occur at suboptimal phases. The frontal-occipital phase-difference result suggests a coordinated rather than purely local phase mechanism, supporting the central claim that alpha phase is linked to changes in sensitivity that behave like changes in internal variability rather than simple gain or criterion shifts. Supplementary analyses showing that alpha power has only a limited relationship with d′ and confidence reassure readers that the main effects are genuinely phase-linked rather than a recasting of amplitude differences.

Second, the reverse-correlation results in Figure 3 extend this story in a satisfying way. The classification images and their Gaussian fits show that at the optimal phase, the weighting of stimulus energy is more sharply concentrated around target-relevant spatial frequencies and orientations, and the bootstrapped parameter distributions indicate that the suboptimal phase is best described by broader tuning and a modest change in gain rather than a pure criterion account. The authors' interpretation that optimal-phase perception reflects both reduced effective internal noise and sharpened sensory tuning is reasonable and well-supported. Overall, the data and figures largely achieve the stated aims, and the work is likely to have an impact both by clarifying the interpretation of alpha-phase effects and by illustrating a useful analytic framework that other groups can adopt.

Weaknesses:

The weaknesses are limited and relate primarily to framing and presentation rather than to the substance of the work. First, because contrast was titrated to maintain moderate performance (d′ between 1.2 and 1.8), the phase-linked changes in sensitivity appear modest in absolute terms, which could benefit from explicit contextualization. Second, a coding error resulted in unequal numbers of double-pass stimulus pairs across participants, which affects the interpretability of the response-consistency results. Third, several methodological details could be stated more explicitly to enhance transparency, including stimulus timing specifications, electrode selection criteria, and the purpose of phase alignment in group averaging. Finally, some mechanistic interpretations in the Discussion could be phrased more conservatively to clearly distinguish between measurement and inference, particularly regarding the relationship between reduced internal noise and sharpened tuning, and the physiological implementation of the frontal-occipital phase relationship.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The study of Pilipenko et al evaluated the role of alpha phase in a visual perception paradigm using the framework of signal detection theory and reverse correlation. Their findings suggest that phase-related modulations in perception are mediated by a reduction in internal noise and a moderate increase in tuning to relevant features of the stimuli in specific phases of the alpha cycle. Interestingly, the alpha phase did not affect the criterion. Criterion was related to modulations in alpha power, in agreement with previous research.

Strengths:

The experiment was carefully designed, and the analytical pipeline is original and suited to answer the research question. The authors frame the research question very well and propose several models that account for the possible mechanisms by which the alpha phase can modulate perception. This study can be very valuable for the ongoing discussion about the role of alpha activity in perception.

Weaknesses:

The sample size collected (N = 6) is, in my opinion, too small for the statistical approach adopted (group level). It is well known that small sample sizes result in an increased likelihood of false positives; even in the case of true positives, effect sizes are inflated (Button et al., 2013; Tamar and Orban de Xivry, 2019), negatively affecting the replicability of the effect.

Although the experimental design allows for an accurate characterization of the effects at the single-subject level, conclusions are drawn from group-level aggregated measures. With only six subjects, the estimation of between-subject variability is not reliable. The authors need to acknowledge that the sample size is too small; therefore, results should be interpreted with caution.

Conclusion:

This study addresses an important and timely question and proposes an original and well-thought-out analytical framework to investigate the role of alpha phase in visual perception. While the experimental design and theoretical motivation are strong, the very limited sample size substantially constrains the strength of the conclusions that can be drawn at the group level.

Bibliography:

Button, K., Ioannidis, J., Mokrysz, C. et al. Power failure: why small sample size undermines the reliability of neuroscience. Nat Rev Neurosci 14, 365-376 (2013). https://doi.org/10.1038/nrn3475

Tamar R Makin, Jean-Jacques Orban de Xivry (2019) Science Forum: Ten common statistical mistakes to watch out for when writing or reviewing a manuscript eLife 8:e48175 https://doi.org/10.7554/eLife.48175

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

King and colleagues generated a mouse with a point mutation in IL21R and investigated the influence on IL-21-mediated T and B cell activation and differentiation. They found that mutant mice show a reduced T and B cell response, with CD4 T cell differentiation into T follicular helper cells being primarily affected.

Strengths:

The authors combined in vitro and in vivo analysis, including bone-marrow chimeric mice.

Weaknesses:

The effect of the IL21R EINS mutant does not specifically affect STAT1, as clearly shown in Figure 1 H, I. Particularly at lower doses of IL21, which may be more relevant in vivo, the effects are very similar. A second key weakness is the very small Tfh response, a not very clear PD-1 and CXCR5 staining to identify Tfh, and a lack of a steady-state (prior to immunisation) comparison of Tfh numbers in the different mouse strains. The latter makes it impossible to know what fraction of the response is antigen-specific.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In the manuscript, "An IL-21R hypomorph circumvents functional redundancy to define STAT1 signaling in germinal center responses," Cecile King and colleagues identify a cytoplasmic site of the IL-21 receptor that differentially regulates STAT1 and STAT3 activation upon IL-21 stimulation. They further examine the immunological consequences of this site-specific alteration on Tfh differentiation and Tfh-dependent humoral immunity, raising important questions about how gene-knockout models may obscure nuanced functional roles of signaling molecules.

Strengths:

The study convincingly highlights a non-redundant role for STAT1 downstream of IL-21-IL-21R signaling in the Tfh differentiation pathway. This conclusion is supported by in vitro analyses of STAT1 and STAT3 activation in CD4 T cells stimulated with IL-21 or IL-6; by in vivo assessments of Tfh and germinal center B cell responses in WT and IL21R-EINS mutant mice, including bone-marrow chimera systems; and by investigating the expression of Tfh-related molecules in WT versus IL21R-EINS CD4 T cells.

Weaknesses:

Although the experiments were carefully executed with appropriate controls, a key question remains unresolved: whether the Tfh differentiation defect in IL21R-EINS mice is directly attributable to reduced STAT1 activation. Rescue experiments that restore STAT1 signaling in IL21R-EINS TCR-transgenic CD4 T cells would provide strong evidence linking the mutation to impaired STAT1 activation and, consequently, defective Tfh differentiation. Without such evidence, it remains formally possible that additional, uncharacterized mutations introduced during ENU mutagenesis contribute to the phenotypes observed, particularly given the discrepancies between IL21R knockout and IL21R-EINS mutant mice.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This study presents evidence that the addition of the two GTPases EngA and ObgE to reactions comprised of rRNAs and total ribosomal proteins purified from native bacterial ribosomes can bypass the requirements for non-physiological temperature shifts and Mg⁺² ion concentrations for in vitro reconstitution of functional E. coli ribosomes.

Strengths:

This advance allows ribosome reconstitution in a fully reconstituted protein synthesis system containing individually purified recombinant translation factors, with the reconstituted ribosomes substituting for native purified ribosomes to support protein synthesis. This work potentially represents an important development in the long-term effort to produce synthetic cells.

Weaknesses:

While much of the evidence is solid, the analysis is incomplete in certain respects that detract from the scientific quality and significance of the findings:

(1) The authors do not describe how the native ribosomal proteins (RPs) were purified, and it is unclear whether all subassemblies of RPs have been disrupted in the purification procedure. If not, additional chaperones might be required beyond the two GTPases described here for functional ribosome assembly from individual RPs.

(2) Reconstitution studies in the past have succeeded by using all recombinant, individually purified RPs, which would clearly address the issue in the preceding comment and also eliminate the possibility that an unknown ribosome assembly factor that co-purifies with native ribosomes has been added to the reconstitution reactions along with the RPs.

(3) They never compared the efficiency of the reconstituted ribosomes to native ribosomes added to the "PURE" in vitro protein synthesis system, making it unclear what proportion of the reconstituted ribosomes are functional, and how protein yield per mRNA molecule compares to that given by the PURE system programmed with purified native ribosomes.

(4) They also have not examined the synthesized GFP protein by SDS-PAGE to determine what proportion is full-length.

(5) The previous development of the PURE system included examinations of the synthesis of multiple proteins, one of which was an enzyme whose specific activity could be compared to that of the native enzyme. This would be a significant improvement to the current study. They could also have programmed the translation reactions containing reconstituted ribosomes with (i) total native mRNA and compared the products in SDS-PAGE to those obtained with the control PURE system containing native ribosomes; (ii) with specifc reporter mRNAs designed to examine dependence on a Shine-Dalgarno sequence and the impact of an in-frame stop codon in prematurely terminating translation to assess the fidelity of initiation and termination events; and (iii) an mRNA with a programmed frameshift site to assess elongation fidelity displayed by their reconstituted ribosomes.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This study presents a significant advance in the field of in vitro ribosome assembly by demonstrating that the bacterial GTPases EngA and ObgE enable single-step reconstitution of functional 50S ribosomal subunits under near-physiological conditions-specifically at 37 {degree sign}C and with total Mg²⁺ concentrations below 10 mM.

This achievement directly addresses a long-standing limitation of the traditional two-step in vitro assembly protocol (Nierhaus & Dohme, PNAS 1974), which requires non-physiological temperatures (44-50 {degree sign}C), and high Mg²⁺ concentrations (~20 mM). Inspired by the integrated Synthesis, Assembly, and Translation (iSAT) platform (Jewett et al., Mol Syst Biol 2013), leveraging E. coli S150 crude extract, which supplies essential assembly factors, the authors hypothesize that specific ribosome biogenesis factors-particularly GTPases present in such extracts-may be responsible for enabling assembly under mild conditions. Through systematic screening, they identify EngA and ObgE as the minimal pair sufficient to replace the need for temperature and Mg²⁺ shifts when using phenol-extracted (i.e., mature, modified) rRNA and purified TP70 proteins.

However, several important concerns remain:

(1) Dependence on Native rRNA Limits Generalizability

The current system relies on rRNA extracted from native ribosomes via phenol, which retains natural post-transcriptional modifications. As the authors note (lines 302-304), attempts to assemble active 50S subunits using in vitro transcribed rRNA, even in the presence of EngA and ObgE, failed. This contrasts with iSAT, where in vitro transcribed rRNA can yield functional (though reduced-activity, ~20% of native) ribosomes, presumably due to the presence of rRNA modification enzymes and additional chaperones in the S150 extract. Thus, while this study successfully isolates two key GTPase factors that mimic part of iSAT's functionality, it does not fully recapitulate iSAT's capacity for de novo assembly from unmodified RNA. The manuscript should clarify that the in vitro assembly demonstrated here is contingent on using native rRNA and does not yet achieve true bottom-up reconstruction from synthetic parts. Moreover, given iSAT's success with transcribed rRNA, could a similar systematic omission approach (e.g., adding individual factors) help identify the additional components required to support unmodified rRNA folding?

(2) Imprecise Use of "Physiological Mg²⁺ Concentration"

The abstract states that assembly occurs at "physiological Mg²⁺ concentration" (<10 mM). However, while this total Mg²⁺ level aligns with optimized in vitro translation buffers (e.g., in PURE or iSAT systems), it exceeds estimates of free cytosolic [Mg²⁺] in E. coli (~1-2 mM). The authors should clarify that they refer to total Mg²⁺ concentrations compatible with cell-free protein synthesis, not necessarily intracellular free ion levels, to avoid misleading readers about true physiological relevance.

In summary, this work elegantly bridges the gap between the two-step method and the extract-dependent iSAT system by identifying two defined GTPases that capture a core functionality of cellular extracts: enabling ribosome assembly under translation-compatible conditions. However, the reliance on native rRNA underscores that additional factors - likely present in iSAT's S150 extract - are still needed for full de novo reconstitution from unmodified transcripts. Future work combining the precision of this defined system with the completeness of iSAT may ultimately realize truly autonomous synthetic ribosome biogenesis.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this article by Xiao et al., the authors aimed to identify the precise targets by which magnesium isoglycyrrhizinate (MgIG) functions to improve liver injury in response to ethanol treatment. The authors found through a series of in vivo and molecular approaches that MgIG treatment attenuates alcohol-induced liver injury through a potential SREBP2-IdI1 axis. This manuscript adds to a previous set of literature showing MgIG improves liver function across a variety of etiologies, and also provides mechanistic insight into its mechanism of action.

Strengths:

(1) The authors use a combination of approaches from both in-vivo mouse models to in-vitro approaches with AML12 hepatocytes to support the notion that MgIG does improve liver function in response to ethanol treatment.

(2) The authors use both knockdown and overexpression approaches, in vivo and in vitro, to support most of the claims provided.

(3) Identification of HSD11B1 as the protein target of MgIG, as well as confirmation of direct protein-protein interactions between HSD11B1/SREBP2/IDI1, is novel.

Weaknesses:

Major weaknesses can be classified into 3 groups:

(1) The results do not support some claims made.

(2) Qualitative analyses of some of the lipid measures, as opposed to more quantitative analyses.

(3) There are no appropriate readouts of Srebp2 translocation and/or activity.

More specific comments:

(1) A few of the claims made are not supported by the references provided. For instance, line 76 states MgIG has hepatoprotective properties and improved liver function, but the reference provided is in the context of myocardial fibrosis.

(2) MgIG is clinically used for the treatment of liver inflammatory disease in China and Japan. In the first line of the abstract, the authors noted that MgIG is clinically approved for ALD. In which countries is MgIG approved for clinical utility in this space?

(3) Serum TGs are not an indicator of liver function. Alterations in serum TGs can occur despite changes in liver function.

(4) There are discrepancies in the results section and the figure legends. For example, line 302 states Idil is upregulated in alcohol fed mice relative to the control group. The figure legend states that the comparison for Figure 2A is that of ALD+MgIG and ALD only.

(5) Oil Red O staining provided does not appear to be consistent with the quantification in Figure 1D. ORO is nonspecific and can be highly subjective. The representative image in Figure 1C appears to have a much greater than 30% ORO (+) area.

(6) The connection between Idil expression in response to EtOH/PA treatment in AML12 cells with viability and apoptosis isn't entirely clear. MgIG treatment completely reduces Idi1 expression in response to EtOH/PA, but only moderate changes, at best, are observed in viability and apoptosis. This suggests the primary mechanism related to MgIG treatment may not be via Idi1.

(7) The nile red stained images also do not appear representative with its quantification. Several claims about more or less lipid accumulation across these studies are not supported by clear differences in nile red.

(8) The authors make a comment that Hsd11b1 expression is quite low in AML12 cells. So why did the authors choose to knockdown Hsd11b1 in this model?

(9) Line 380 - the claim that MGIG weakens the interaction between HSD11b1 and SREBP2 cannot be made solely based on one Western blot.

(10) It's not clear what the numbers represent on top of the Western blots. Are these averages over the course of three independent experiments?

(11) The claim in line 382 that knockdown of Hsd11b1 resulted in accumulation of pSREBP2 is not supported by the data provided in Figure 6D.

(12) None of the images provided in Figure 6E support the claims stated in the results. Activation of SREBP2 leads to nuclear translocation and subsequent induction of genes involved in cholesterol biosynthesis and uptake. Manipulation of Hsd11b1 via OE or KD does not show any nuclear localization with DAPI.

(13) The entire manuscript is focused on this axis of MgIG-Hsd11b1-Srebp2, but no Srebp2 transcriptional targets are ever measured.

(14) Acc1 and Scd1 are Srebp1 targets, not Srebp2.

(15) A major weakness of this manuscript is the lack of studies providing quantitative assessments of Srebp2 activation and true liver lipid measurements.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, the authors investigated magnesium isoglycyrrhizinate (MgIG)'s hepatoprotective actions in chronic-binge alcohol-associated liver disease (ALD) mouse models and ethanol/palmitic acid-challenged AML-12 hepatocytes. They found that MgIG markedly attenuated alcohol-induced liver injury, evidenced by ameliorated histological damage, reduced hepatic steatosis, and normalized liver-to-body weight ratios. RNA sequencing identified isopentenyl diphosphate delta isomerase 1 (IDI1) as a key downstream effector. Hepatocyte-specific genetic manipulations confirmed that MgIG modulates the SREBP2-IDI1 axis. The mechanistic studies suggested that MgIG could directly target HSD11B1 and modulate the HSD11B1-SREBP2-IDI1 axis to attenuate ALD. This manuscript is of interest to the research field of ALD.

Strengths:

The authors have performed both in vivo and in vitro studies to demonstrate the action of magnesium isoglycyrrhizinate on hepatocytes and an animal model of alcohol-associated liver disease.

Weaknesses:

The data were not well-organised, and the paper needs proofreading again, with a focus on the use of scientific language throughout.

Here are several comments:

(1) In Supplemental Figure 1A, all the treatment arms (A-control, MgIG-25 mg/kg, MgIG-50 mg/kg) showed body weight loss compared to the untreated controls. However, Figure 1E showed body weight gain in the treatment arms (A-control and MgIG-25 mg/kg), why? In Supplemental Figure 1A, the mice with MgIG (25 mg/kg) showed the lowest body weight, compared to either A-control or MgIG (50 mg/kg) treatment. Can the authors explain why MgIG (25 mg/kg) causes bodyweight loss more than MgIG (50 mg/kg)? What about the other parameters (ALT, ALS, NAS, etc.) for the mice with MgIG (50 mg/kg)?

(2) IL-6 is a key pro-inflammatory cytokine significantly involved in ALD, acting as a marker of ALD severity. Can the authors explain why MgIG 1.0 mg/ml shows higher IL-6 gene expression than MgIG (0.1-0.5 mg/ml)? Same question for the mRNA levels of lipid metabolic enzymes Acc1 and Scd1.

(3) For the qPCR results of Hsd11b1 knockdown (siRNA) and Hsd11b1 overexpression (plasmid) in AML-12 cells (Figure 5B), what is the description for the gene expression level (Y axis)? Fold changes versus GAPDH? Hsd11b1 overexpression showed non-efficiency (20-23, units on Y axis), even lower than the Hsd11b1 knockdown (above 50, units on Y axis). The authors need to explain this. For the plasmid-based Hsd11b1 overexpression, why does the scramble control inhibit Hsd11b1 gene expression (less than 2, units on the Y axis)? Again, this needs to be explained.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript addresses an important question: how do circadian clocks adjust to a complex rhythmic environment with multiple daily rhythms? The focus is on the temperature and light cycles (TC and LD) and their phase relationship. In nature, TC usually lags the LD cycle, but the phase delay can vary depending on seasonal and daily weather conditions. The authors present evidence that circadian behavior adjusts to different TC/LD phase relationships, that temperature-sensitive tim splicing patterns might underlie some of these responses, and that artificial selection for preferential evening or morning eclosion behavior impacts how flies respond to different LD/TC phase relationship

Strength:

Experiments are conducted on control strains and strains that have been selected in the laboratory for preferential morning or evening eclosion phenotypes. This study is thus quite unique as it allows us to probe whether this artificial selection impacted how animals respond to different environmental conditions, and thus gives hints on how evolution might shape circadian oscillators and their entrainment. The authors focused on circadian locomotor behavior and timeless (tim) splicing because warm and cold-specific transcripts have been described as playing an important role in determining temperature-dependent circadian behavior. Not surprisingly, the results are complex, but there are interesting observations. In particular, the "late" strain appears to be able to adjust more efficiently its evening peak in response to changes in the phase relationship between temperature and light cycles, but the morning peak seems less responsive in this strain. Differences in the circadian pattern of expression of different tim mRNA isoforms are found under specific LD/TC conditions.

Weaknesses:

These observations are interesting, but in the absence of specific genetic manipulations, it is difficult to establish a causative link between tim molecular phenotypes and behavior. The study is thus quite descriptive. It would be worth testing available tim splicing mutants, or mutants for regulators of tim splicing, to understand in more detail and more directly how tim splicing determines behavioral adaptation to different phase relationships between temperature and light cycles. Also, I wonder whether polymorphisms in or around tim splicing sites, or in tim splicing regulators, were selected in the early or late strains.

I also have a major methodological concern. The authors studied how the evening and morning phases are adjusted under different conditions and different strains. They divided the daily cycle into 12h morning and 12h evening periods, and calculated the phase of morning and evening activity using circular statistics. However, the non-circadian "startle" responses to light or temperature transitions should have a very important impact on phase calculation, and thus at least partially obscure actual circadian morning and evening peak phase changes. Moreover, the timing of the temperature-up startle drifts with the temperature cycles, and will even shift from the morning to the evening portion of the divided daily cycle. Its amplitude also varies as a function of the LD/TC phase relationship. Note that the startle responses and their changes under different conditions will also affect SSD quantifications.

For the circadian phase, these issues seem, for example, quite obvious for the morning peak in Figure 1. According to the phase quantification on panel D, there is essentially no change in the morning phase when the temperature cycle is shifted by 6 hours compared to the LD cycle, but the behavior trace on panel B clearly shows a phase advance of morning anticipation. Comparison between the graphs on panels C and D also indicates that there are methodological caveats, as they do not correlate well.

Because of the various masking effects, phase quantification under entrainment is a thorny problem in Drosophila. I would suggest testing other measurements of anticipatory behavior to complement or perhaps supersede the current behavior analysis. For example, the authors could employ the anticipatory index used in many previous studies, measure the onset of morning or evening activity, or, if more reliable, the time at which 50% of anticipatory activity is reached. Termination of activity could also be considered. Interestingly, it seems there are clear effects on evening activity termination in Figure 3. All these methods will be impacted by startle responses under specific LD/TC phase relationships, but their combination might prove informative.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors aimed to dissect the plasticity of circadian outputs by combining evolutionary biology with chronobiology. By utilizing Drosophila strains selected for "Late" and "Early" adult emergence, they sought to investigate whether selection for developmental timing co-evolves with plasticity in daily locomotor activity. Specifically, they examined how these diverse lines respond to complex, desynchronized environmental cues (temperature and light cycles) and investigated the molecular role of the splicing factor Psi and timeless isoforms in mediating this plasticity.

Major strengths and weaknesses:

The primary strength of this work is the novel utilization of long-term selection lines to address fundamental questions about how organisms cope with complex environmental cues. The behavioral data are compelling, clearly demonstrating that "Late" and "Early" flies possess distinct capabilities to track temperature cycles when they are desynchronized from light cycles.

However, a significant weakness lies in the causal links proposed between the molecular findings and these behavioral phenotypes. The molecular insights (Figures 2, 4, 5, and 6) rely on mRNA extracted from whole heads. As head tissue is dominated by photoreceptor cells and glia rather than the specific pacemaker neurons (LNv, LNd) driving these behaviors, this approach introduces a confound. Differential splicing observed here may reflect the state of the compound eye rather than the central clock circuit, a distinction highlighted by recent studies (e.g., Ma et al., PNAS 2023).

Furthermore, while the authors report that Psi mRNA loses rhythmicity under out-of-sync conditions, this correlation does not definitively prove that Psi oscillation is required for the observed splicing patterns or behavioral plasticity. The amplitude of the reported Psi rhythm is also low (~1.5 fold) and variable, raising questions about its functional significance in the absence of manipulation experiments (such as constitutive expression) to test causality.

Appraisal of aims and conclusions:

The authors successfully demonstrate the co-evolution of emergence timing and activity plasticity, achieving their aim on the behavioral level. However, the conclusion that the specific molecular mechanism involves the loss of Psi rhythmicity driving timeless splicing changes is not yet fully supported by the data. The current evidence is correlative, and without spatial resolution (specific clock neurons) or causal manipulation, the mechanistic model remains speculative.

This study is likely to be of significant interest to the chronobiology and evolutionary biology communities as it highlights the "enhanced plasticity" of circadian clocks as an adaptive trait. The findings suggest that plasticity to phase lags - common in nature where temperature often lags light - may be a key evolutionary adaptation. Addressing the mechanistic gaps would significantly increase the utility of these findings for understanding the molecular basis of circadian plasticity.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This study attempts to mimic in the laboratory changing seasonal phase relationships between light and temperature and determine their effects on Drosophila circadian locomotor behavior and on the underlying splicing patterns of a canonical clock gene, timeless. The results are then extended to strains that have been selected over many years for early or late circadian phase phenotypes.

Strengths:

A lot of work, and some results showing that the phasing of behavioral and molecular phenotypes is slightly altered in the predicted directions in the selected strains.

Weaknesses:

The experimental conditions are extremely artificial, with immediate light and temperature transitions compared to the gradual changes observed in nature. Studies in the wild have shown how the laboratory reveals artifacts that are not observed in nature. The behavioral and molecular effects are very small, and some of the graphs and second-order analyses of the main effects appear contradictory. Consequently, the Discussion is very speculative as it is based on such small laboratory effects

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Hao Jiang et al described a systematic approach to identify proline hydroxylation proteins. The authors implemented a proteomic strategy with HILIC-chromatographic separation and reported an identification with high confidence of 4993 sites from HEK293 cells (4 replicates) and 3247 sites from RCC4 cells with 1412 sites overlapping between the two cell lines. A small fraction of about 200 sites from each cell line were identified with HyPro immonium ion. The authors investigated the conditions and challenges of using HyPro immonium ions as a diagnostic tool. The study focused the validation analysis of Repo-man (CDCA2) proline hydroxylation comparing MS/MS spectra, retention time and diagnostic ions of purified proteins with corresponding synthetic peptides. Using SILAC analysis and recombinant enzyme assay, the study evaluated Repo-man HyPro604 as a target of PHD1 enzyme.

Strengths:

The study involved extensive LCMS runs for in-depth characterization of proline hydroxylation proteins including four replicated analysis of 293 cells and three replicated analysis of RCC4 cells with 32 HILIC fractions in each analysis. The identification of over 4000 confident proline hydroxylation sites from the two cell lines would be a valuable resource for the community. The characterization of Repo-man proline hydroxylation is a novel finding.

Weaknesses:

As a study mainly focused on methodology, there are some potential technical weaknesses discussed below.

(1) The study applied HILIC-based chromatographic separation with a goal to enrich and separate hydroxyproline containing peptides. The separation effects for peptides from 293 cells and RCC4 cells seems somewhat different (Figure 2A and Figure S1A), which may indicate that the application efficiency of the strategy may be cell line dependent.

(2) The study evaluated the HyPro immonium ion as a diagnostic ion for HyPro identification showcasing multiple influential factors and potential challenges. It is important to note that with only around 5% of the identifications had HyPro immonium ion, it would be very challenging to implement this strategy in a global LCMS analysis to either validate or invalidate HyPro identifications. In comparison, acetyllysine immonium ion was previously reported to be a useful marker for acetyllysine peptides (PMID: 18338905) and the strategy offered a sensitivity of 70% with a specificity of 98%.

(3) The authors aimed to identify potential PHD targets by comparing the HyPro proteins identified with or without PHD inhibitor FG-4592 treatment. The workflow followed a classification strategy, rather than a typical quantitative proteomics approach for comprehensive analysis.

(4) The authors performed inhibitor treatment and in vitro PHD1 enzyme assay to validate that Repo-man can be hydroxylated by PHD1. It remains unknown if PHD1 expression in cells is sufficient to stimulate Repo-man hydroxylation.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Jiang et al. developed a robust workflow for identifying proline hydroxylation sites in proteins. They identified proline hydroxylation sites in HEK293 and RCC4 cells, respectively. The authors found that the more hydrophilic HILIC fractions were enriched in peptides containing hydroxylated proline residues. These peptides showed differences in charge and mass distribution compared to unmodified or oxidized peptides. The intensity of the diagnostic hydroxyproline iminium ion depended on parameters including MS collision energy, parent peptide concentration, and the sequence of amino acids adjacent to the modified proline residue. Additionally, they demonstrate that a combination of retention time in LC and optimized MS parameter settings reliably identifies proline hydroxylation sites in peptides, even when multiple proline residues are present

Strengths:

Overall, the manuscript presents an advanced, standardized protocol for identifying proline hydroxylation. The experiments were well designed, and the developed protocol is straightforward, which may help resolve confusion in the field.

Comments on revisions:

All of my concerns have been resolved by the authors. It is ready for publication.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors present a new method for detecting and identifying proline hydroxylation sites within the proteome. This tool utilizes traditional LC-MS technology with optimized parameters, combined with HILIC-based separation techniques. The authors show that they pick up known hydroxy-proline sites and also validate a new site discovered through their pipeline.

Strengths:

The manuscript utilizes state-of-the-art mass spectrometric techniques with optimized collision parameters to ensure proper detection of the immonium ions, which is an advance compared to other similar approaches before. The use of synthetic control peptides on the HILIC separation step clearly demonstrates the ability of the method to reliably distinguish hydroxy-proline from oxidized methionine - containing peptides. Using this method, they identify a site on CDCA2, which they go on to validate in vitro and also study its role in regulation of mitotic progression in an associated manuscript.

Weaknesses:

Despite the authors claim about the specificity of this method in picking up the intended peptides, there is a good amount of potential false positives that also happen to get picked (owing to the limitations of MS-based readout), and the authors' criteria for downstream filtering of such peptides requires further clarification. In the same vein, greater and more diverse cell-based validation approach will be helpful to substantiate the claims regarding enrichment of peptides in the described pathway analyses. Experiments must show reproducibility and contain appropriate controls wherever necessary.

Comments on revisions:

I thank the authors for their clarifications and opinions on my questions and suggestions. Based on the response, the following points are important while considering the significance of this manuscript:

- The manuscript provides a novel method to detect and identify proline hydroxylation residues in the proteome. While this provides several advances over previous methods, the probability of false positives, loss of true positives and incomplete removal of the interference of methionine oxidation in this strategy need to be addressed clearly in the discussion section of the manuscript, so that the strengths and limitations of this method are made aware to the reader.

- Going by the standards of publication in eLife, reproducibility is very important in the experiments done. Hence, I strongly recommend that the authors perform the experiments in triplicate with error bars to confirm reproducibility. Graphs with single data points do not convey that, and this is very important for eLife.

- As for Figure 9C, the authors have rejected the request for a control lane in the figure. It may sound trivial to the authors, but for completeness of the experiment, all applicable controls must be performed and shown alongside the main data. It is essential to show the PHD1 only control to rule out the possibility of the contribution of any non-specific signal in the dot blot by PHD1.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This study aimed to determine whether bacterial translation inhibitors affect mitochondria through the same mechanisms. Using mitoribosome profiling, the authors found that most antibiotics, except telithromycin, act similarly in both systems. These insights could help in the development of antibiotics with reduced mitochondrial toxicity.

They also identified potential novel mitochondrial translation events, proposing new initiation sites for MT-ND1 and MT-ND5. These insights not only challenge existing annotations but also open new avenues for research on mitochondrial function.

Strengths:

Ribosome profiling is a state-of-the-art method for monitoring the translatome at very high resolution. Using mitoribosome profiling, the authors convincingly demonstrate that most of the analyzed antibiotics act in the same way on both bacterial and mitochondrial ribosomes, except for telithromycin. Additionally, the authors report possible alternative translation events, raising new questions about the mechanisms behind mitochondrial initiation and start codon recognition in mammals.

Weaknesses:

All the weaknesses I previously highlighted were adequately addressed.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Recently, the off-target activity of antibiotics on human mitoribosome has been paid more attention in the mitochondrial field. Hafner et al applied mitoribosome profilling to study the effect of antibiotics on protein translation in mitochondria as there are similarities between bacterial ribosome and mitoribosome. The authors conclude that some antibiotics act on mitochondrial translation initiation by the same mechanism as in bacteria. On the other hand, the authors showed that chloramphenicol, linezolid and telithromycin trap mitochondrial translation in a context-dependent manner. More interesting, during deep analysis of 5' end of ORF, the authors reported the alternative start codon for ND1 and ND5 proteins instead of previously known one. This is a novel finding in the field and it also provide another application of the technique to further study on mitochondrial translation.

Strengths:

This is the first study which applied mitoribosome profiling method to analyze mutiple antibiotics treatment cells. The mitoribosome profiling method had been optimized carefully and has been suggested to be a novel method to study translation events in mitochondria. The manuscript is constructive and well-written.

Weaknesses:

This is a novel and interesting study, however, most of conclusion comes from mitoribosome profiling analysis, as the result, the manuscript lacks the cellular biochemical data to provide more evidence and support the findings.

Comments on revisions:

The authors addressed most of my concerns and comments, although there is still no biochemical assay which should be performed to support mitoribsome profiling data.

The author also carefully investigated the structure of complex I, however, I am surprised that the author chose to analyse a low resolution structure (3.7 A). Recently, there are more high resolution structures of mammalian complex I published (7R41, 7V2C, 7QSM, 9I4I). Furthermore, the authors should not only respond to the reviewers but also (somehow) discuss these points in the manuscript.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Yamazaki et al. conducted multiple microscopy-based GFP localization screens, from which they identified proteins that are associated with PM/cell wall damage stress response. Specifically, the authors identified that bud-localized TMD-containing proteins and endocytotic proteins are associated with PM damage stress. The authors further demonstrated that polarized exocytosis and CME are temporally coupled in response to PM damage, and CME is required for polarized exocytosis and the targeting of TMD-containing proteins to the damage site. From these results, the authors proposed a model that CME delivers TMD-containing repair proteins between the bud tip and the damage site.

Strengths:

Overall, this is a well-written manuscript, and the experiments are overall well-conducted. The authors identified many repair proteins and revealed the temporal coordination of different categories of repair proteins. Furthermore, the authors demonstrated that CME is required for targeting of repair proteins to the damage site, as well as cellular survival in response to stress related to PM/cell wall damage. Although the roles of CME and bud-localized proteins in damage repair are not completely new to the field, this work does have conceptual advances by identifying novel repair proteins and proposing the intriguing model that the repairing cargoes are shuttled between the bud tip and the damaged site through coupled exocytosis and endocytosis.

Weaknesses:

While the results presented in this manuscript are convincing, they might not be sufficient to support some of the authors' claims. Especially in the last two result sessions, the authors claimed CME delivers TMD-containing repair proteins from the bud tip to the damage site. The model is no doubt highly possible based on the date, but caveats still exist. For example, the repair proteins might not be transported from one localization to another localization, but are degraded and re-synthesized. Although the Gal-induced expression system can further support the model to some extent, I think more direct verification (such as FLIP or photo-convertible fluorescence tags to distinguish between pre-existing and newly synthesized proteins) would significantly improve the strength of evidence.

Review on revised version:

The authors addressed most of concerns that were originally raised, primarily by revising the text and figures and expanding the discussion, which improves the clarity of the manuscript. Although the authors did not address my major concern on the shuttling/trafficking model experimentally, I do understand the limitation of resources and time. The authors noted that they planned to do these experiments for their future work, and such studies would be more definitive evaluations for the proposed model. Overall I think this is a very interesting and well-conducted study and I enjoyed reading this manuscript. I look forward to their following research of this study.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This paper remarkably reveals the identification of plasma membrane repair proteins, revealing spatiotemporal cellular responses to plasma membrane damage. The study highlights a combination of sodium dodecyl sulfate (SDS) and lase for identifying and characterizing proteins involved in plasma membrane (PM) repair in Saccharomyces cerevisiae. From 80 PM, repair proteins that were identified, 72 of them were novel proteins. The use of both proteomic and microscopy approaches provided a spatiotemporal coordination of exocytosis and clathrin-mediated endocytosis (CME) during repair. Interestingly, the authors were able to demonstrate that exocytosis dominates early and CME later, with CME also playing an essential role in trafficking transmembrane-domain (TMD) containing repair proteins between the bud tip and the damage site.

Weaknesses/limitations:

- Still, there is a lack of clarity about mentioning Pkc1 as the best characterized repair protein, or why is Pkc1 mentioned only as it is changing the localization?!

- The use of a C-terminal GFP-tagged library for the laser damage assay may have limited the identification of proteins whose localization or function depends on an intact N-terminus. N-terminal regions might contain targeting or regulatory elements; therefore, some relevant repair factors may have been missed. Analysis of endogenously N-terminally tagged strains, at least for selected candidates, could help address this limitation.

- The authors appropriately discuss the limitations of SDS- and laser-induced plasma membrane damage, including the possibility that these approaches may not capture proteins involved in other forms of membrane injury, such as mechanical or osmotic stress.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This work aims to understand how cells repair damage to the plasma membrane (PM). This is important as failure to do so will result in cell lysis and death. Therefore, this is an important fundamental question with broad implications for all eukaryotic cells. Despite this importance, there are relatively few proteins known to contribute to this repair process. This study expands the number of experimentally validated PM from 8 to 80. Further, they use precise laser-induced damage of the PM/cell wall and use live-cell imaging to track the recruitment of repair proteins to these damage sites. They focus on repair proteins that are involved in either exocytosis or clathrin-mediated endocytosis (CME) to understand how these membrane remodeling processes contribute to PM repair. Through these experiments, they find that while exocytosis and CME both occur at the sites of PM damage, exocytosis predominates the early stages of repairs, while CME predominates in the later stages of repairs. Lastly, they propose that CME is responsible for diverting repair proteins localized to the growing bud cell to the site of PM damage.

Strengths:

The manuscript is very well written and the experiments presented flow logically. The use of laser-induced damage and live-cell imaging to validate the proteome-wide screen using SDS induced damage strengthen the role of the identified candidates in PM/cell wall repair.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have very nicely addressed my previous comments and I have no further concerns.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Feng, Jing-Xin et al. studied the hemogenic capacity of the endothelial cells in the adult mouse bone marrow. Using Cdh5-CreERT2 in vivo inducible system, though rare, they characterized a subset of endothelial cells expressing hematopoietic markers that were transplantable. They suggested that the endothelial cells need the support of stromal cells to acquire blood-forming capacity ex vivo. These endothelial cells were transplantable and contributed to hematopoiesis with ca. 1% chimerism in a stress hematopoiesis condition (5-FU) and recruited to the peritoneal cavity upon Thioglycolate treatment. Ultimately, the authors detailed the blood lineage generation of the adult endothelial cells in a single cell fashion, suggesting a predominant HSPCs-independent blood formation by adult bone marrow endothelial cells, in addition to the discovery of Col1a2+ endothelial cells with blood-forming potential, corresponding to their high Runx1 expressing property.

The conclusion regarding the characterization of hematopoietic-related endothelial cells in adult bone marrow is well supported by data. However, the paper would be more convincing, if the function of the endothelial cells were characterized more rigorously.

(1) Ex vivo culture of CD45-VE-Cadherin+ZsGreen EC cells generated CD45+ZsGreen+ hematopoietic cells. However, given that FACS sorting can never achieve 100% purity, there is a concern that hematopoietic cells might arise from the ones that got contaminated into the culture at the time of sorting. The sorting purity and time course analysis of ex vivo culture should be shown to exclude the possibility.

(2) Although it was mentioned in the text that the experimental mice survived up to 12 weeks after lethal irradiation and transplantation, the time-course kinetics of donor cell repopulation (>12 weeks) would add a precise and convincing evaluation. This would be absolutely needed as the chimerism kinetics can allow us to guess what repopulation they were (HSC versus progenitors). Moreover, data on either bone marrow chimerism assessing phenotypic LT-HSC and/or secondary transplantation would dramatically strengthen the manuscript.

(3) The conclusion by the authors, which says "Adult EHT is independent of pre-existing hematopoietic cell progenitors", is not fully supported by the experimental evidence provided (Figure 4 and Figure S3). More recipients with ZsGreen+ LSK must be tested.

Strengths:

The authors used multiple methods to characterize the blood-forming capacity of the genetically - and phenotypically - defined endothelial cells from several reporter mouse systems. The polylox barcoding method to trace the adult bone marrow endothelial cell contribution to hematopoiesis is a strong insight to estimate the lineage contribution.

Weaknesses:

It is unclear what the biological significance of the blood cells de novo generated from the adult bone marrow endothelial cells is. Moreover, since the frequency is very rare (<1% bone marrow and peripheral blood CD45+), more data regarding its identity (function, morphology, and markers) are needed to clearly exclude the possibility of contamination/mosaicism of the reporter mice system used.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript by Feng et al. uses mouse models to study the embryonic origins of HSPCs. Using multiple types of genetic lineage tracing, the authors aimed to identify whether BM-resident endothelial cells retain hematopoietic capacity in adult organisms. Through an important mix of various labeling methodologies (and various controls), they reach the conclusion that BM endothelial cells contribute up to 3% of hematopoietic cells in young mice.

Strengths:

The major strength of the paper lies in the combination of various labeling strategies, including multiple Cdh5-CreER transgenic lines, different CreER lines (col1a2), and different reporters (ZsGreen, mTmG), including a barcoding-type reporter (PolyLox). This makes it highly unlikely that the results are driven by a rare artifact due to one random Cre line or one leaky reporter. The transplantation control (where the authors show no labeling of transplanted LSKs from the Cdh5 model) is also very supportive of their conclusions.

Weaknesses:

We believe that the work of ruling out alternative hypotheses, though initiated, was left incomplete. We specifically think that the authors need to properly consider whether there is specific, sparse labeling of HSPCs (in their native, non-transplant, model, in young animals). Polylox experiments, though an exciting addition, are also incomplete without additional controls. Some additional killer experiments are suggested.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Morgan et al. studied how paternal dietary alteration influenced testicular phenotype, placental and fetal growth using a mouse model of paternal low protein diet (LPD) or Western Diet (WD) feeding, with or without supplementation of methyl-donors and carriers (MD). They found diet- and sex-specific effects of paternal diet alteration. All experimental diets decreased paternal body weight and the number of spermatogonial stem cells, while fertility was unaffected. WD males (irrespective of MD) showed signs of adiposity and metabolic dysfunction, abnormal seminiferous tubules, and dysregulation of testicular genes related to chromatin homeostasis. Conversely, LPD induced abnormalities in the early placental cone, fetal growth restriction, and placental insufficiency, which were partly ameliorated by MD. The paternal diets changed the placental transcriptome in a sex-specific manner and led to a loss of sexual dimorphism in the placental transcriptome. These data provide a novel insight into how paternal health can affect the outcome of pregnancies, which is often overlooked in prenatal care.

Strengths:

The authors have performed a well-designed study using commonly used mouse models of paternal underfeeding (low protein) and overfeeding (Western diet). They performed comprehensive phenotyping at multiple timepoints, including the fathers, the early placenta, and the late gestation feto-placental unit. The inclusion of both testicular and placental morphological and transcriptomic analysis is a powerful, non-biased tool for such exploratory observational studies. The authors describe changes in testicular gene expression revolving around histone (methylation) pathways that are linked to altered offspring development (H3.3 and H3K4), which is in line with hypothesised paternal contributions to offspring health. The authors report sex differences in control placentas that mimic those in humans, providing potential for translatability of the findings. The exploration of sexual dimorphism (often overlooked) and its absence in response to dietary modification is novel and contributes to the evidence-base for the inclusion of both sexes in developmental studies.

Weaknesses:

The data are overall consistent with the conclusions of the authors. The paternal and pregnancy data are discussed separately, instead of linking the paternal phenotype to offspring outcomes. Some clarifications regarding the methods and the model would improve the interpretation of the findings.

(1) The authors insufficiently discuss their rationale for studying methyl-donors and carriers as micronutrient supplementation in their mouse model. The impact of the findings would be better disseminated if their role were explained in more detail.

(2) It is unclear from the methods exactly how long the male mice were kept on their respective diets at the time of mating and culling. Male mice were kept on the diet between 8 and 24 weeks before mating, which is a large window in which the males undergo a considerable change in body weight (Figure 1A). If males were mated at 8 weeks but phenotyped at 24 weeks, or if there were differences between groups, this complicates the interpretation of the findings and the extrapolation of the paternal phenotype to changes seen in the fetoplacental unit. The same applies to paternal age, which is an important known factor affecting male fertility and offspring outcomes.

(3) The male mice exhibited lower body weights when fed experimental diets compared to the control diet, even when placed on the hypercaloric Western Diet. As paternal body weight is an important contributor to offspring health, this is an important confounder that needs to be addressed. This may also have translational implications; in humans, consumption of a Western-style diet is often associated with weight gain. The cause of the weight discrepancy is also unaddressed. It is mentioned that the isocaloric LPD was fed ad libitum, while it is unclear whether the WD was also fed ad libitum, or whether males under- or over-ate on each experimental diet.

(4) The description and presentation of certain statistical analyses could be improved.

(i) It is unclear what statistical analysis has been performed on the time-course data in Figure 1A (if any). If one-way ANOVA was performed at each timepoint (as the methods and legend suggest), this is an inaccurate method to analyse time-course data.

(ii) It is unclear what methods were used to test the relative abundance of microbiome species at the family level (Figure 2L), whether correction was applied for multiple testing, and what the stars represent in the figure. 3) Mentioning whether siblings were used in any analyses would improve transparency, and if so, whether statistical correction needed to be applied to control for confounding by the father.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors investigated the effects of a low-protein diet (LPD) and a high sugar- and fat-rich diet (Western diet, WD) on paternal metabolic and reproductive parameters and feto-placental development and gene expression. They did not observe significant effects on fertility; however, they reported gut microbiota dysbiosis, alterations in testicular morphology, and severe detrimental effects on spermatogenesis. In addition, they examined whether the adverse effects of these diets could be prevented by supplementation with methyl donors. Although LPD and WD showed limited negative effects on paternal reproductive health (with no impairment of reproductive success), the consequences on fetal and placental development were evident and, as reported in many previous studies, were sex-dependent.

Strengths:

This study is of high quality and addresses a research question of great global relevance, particularly in light of the growing concern regarding the exponential increase in metabolic disorders, such as obesity and diabetes, worldwide. The work highlights the importance of a balanced paternal diet in regulating the expression of metabolic genes in the offspring at both fetal and placental levels. The identification of genes involved in metabolic pathways that may influence offspring health after birth is highly valuable, strengthening the manuscript and emphasizing the need to further investigate long-term outcomes in adult offspring.

The histological analyses performed on paternal testes clearly demonstrate diet-induced damage. Moreover, although placental morphometric analyses and detailed histological assessments of the different placental zones did not reveal significant differences between groups, their inclusion is important. These results indicate that even in the absence of overt placental phenotypic changes, placental function may still be altered, with potential consequences for fetal programming.

Weaknesses:

Overall, this manuscript presents a rich and comprehensive dataset; however, this has resulted in the analysis of paternal gut dysbiosis remaining largely descriptive. While still valuable, this raises questions regarding why supplementation with methyl donors was unable to restore gut microbial balance in animals receiving the modified diets.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Meiotic recombination at chromosome ends can be deleterious, and its initiation-the programmed formation of DSBs-has long been known to be suppressed. However, the underlying mechanisms of this suppression remained unclear. A bottleneck has been the repetitive sequences embedded within chromosome ends, which make them challenging to analyze using genomic approaches. The authors addressed this issue by developing a new computational pipeline that reliably maps ChIP-seq reads and other genomic data, enabling exploration of previously inaccessible yet biologically important regions of the genome.

In budding yeast, chromosome ends (~20 kb) show depletion of axis proteins (Red1 and Hop1) important for recruiting DSB-forming proteins. Using their newly developed pipeline, the authors reanalyzed previously published datasets and data generated in this study, revealing heretofore unseen details at chromosome ends. While axis proteins are depleted at chromosome ends, the meiotic cohesin component Rec8 is not. Y' elements play a crucial role in this suppression. The suppression does not depend on the physical chromosome ends but on cis-acting elements. Dot1 suppresses Red1 recruitment at chromosome ends but promotes it in interior regions. Sir complex renders subtelomeric chromatin inaccessible to the DSB-forming machinery.

The high-quality data and extensive analyses provide important insights into the mechanisms that suppress meiotic DSB formation at chromosome ends. To fully realise this value, several aspects of data presentation and interpretation should be clarified to ensure that the conclusions are stated with appropriate precision and that remaining future issues are clearly articulated.

(1) To assess the chromosome fusion effects on overall subtelomeric suppression, authors should guide how to look at the data presented in Figure 2b-c. Based on the authors' definition of the terminal 20 kb as the suppressed region, SK1 chrIV-R and S288c chrI-L would be affected by the chromosome fusion, if any. In addition, I find it somewhat challenging to draw clear conclusions from inspecting profiles to compare subtelomeric and internal regions. Perhaps, applying a quantitative approach - such as a bootstrap-based analysis similar to those presented earlier-would be easier to interpret.

(2) The relationship between coding density and Red1 signal needs clarification. An important conclusion from Figure 3 is that the subtelomeric depletion of Red1 primarily reflects suppression of the Rec8-dependent recruitment pathway, whereas Rec8-independent recruitment appears similar between ends and internal regions. Based on the authors' previous papers (referencess 13, 16), I thought coding (or nucleosome) density primarily influences the Rec8-independent pathway. However, the correlations presented in Figure 2d-e (also implied in Figure 3a) appear opposite to my expectation. Specifically, differences in axis protein binding between chromosome ends and internal regions (or within chromosome ends), where the Rec8-dependent pathway dominates, correlate with coding density. In contrast, no such correlation is evident in rec8Δ cells, where only the Rec8-independent pathway is active and end-specific depletion is absent. One possibility is that masking coding regions within Y' elements influences the correlation analysis. Additional analysis and a clearer explanation would be highly appreciated.

(3) The Dot1-Sir3 section staring from L266 should be clarified. I found this section particularly difficult to follow. It begins by stating that dot1∆ leads to Sir complex spreading, but then moves directly to an analysis of Red1 ChIP in sir3∆ without clearly articulating the underlying hypothesis. I wonder if this analysis is intended to explain the differences observed between dot1∆ and H3K79R mutants in the previous section. I also did not get the concluding statement - Dot1 counteracts Sir3 activity. As sir3Δ alone does not affect subtelomeric suppression, it is unclear what Dot1 counteracts. Perhaps, explicitly stating the authors' working model at the outset of this section would greatly clarify the rationale, results, and conclusions.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Raghavan and his colleagues sought to identify cis-acting elements and/or protein factors that limit meiotic crossover at chromosome ends. This is important for avoiding chromosome rearrangements and preventing chromosome missegregation.

By reanalyzing published ChIP datasets, the researchers identified a correlation between low levels of protein axis binding - which are known to modulate homologous recombination - and the presence of cis-acting elements such as the subtelomeric element Y' and low gene density. Genetic analyses coupled with ChIP experiments revealed that the differential binding of the Red1 protein in subtelomeric regions requires the methyltransferase Dot1. Interestingly, Red1 depletion in subtelomeric regions does not impact DSB formation. Another surprising finding is that deleting DOT1 has no effect on Red1 loading in the absence of the silencing factor Sir3. Unlike Dot1, Sir3 directly impacts DSB formation, probably by limiting promoter access to Spo11. However, this explains only a small part of the low levels of DSBs forming in subtelomeric regions.

Strengths:

(1) This work provides intriguing observations, such as the impact of Dot1 and Sir3 on Red1 loading and the uncoupling of Red1 loading and DSB induction in subtelomeric regions.

(2) The separation of axis protein deposition and DSB induction observed in the absence of Dot1 is interesting because it rules out the possibility that the binding pattern of these proteins is sufficient to explain the low level of DSB in subtelomeric regions.

(3) The demonstration that Sir3 suppresses the induction of DSBs by limiting the openness of promoters in subtelomeric regions is convincing.

Weaknesses:

(1) The impact of the cis-encoded signal is not demonstrated. Y' containing subtelomeres behave differently from X-only, but this is only correlative. No compelling manipulation has been performed to test the impact of these elements on protein axis recruitment or DSB formation.

(2) The mechanism by which Dot1 and Sir3 impact Red1 loading is missing.

(3) Sir3's impact on DSB induction is compelling, yet it only accounts for a small proportion of DSB depletion in subtelomeric regions. Thus, the main mechanisms suppressing crossover close to the ends of chromosomes remain to be deciphered.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The paper by Raghavan et. al. describes pathways that suppress the formation of meiotic DNA double-strand breaks (DSBs) for interhomolog recombination at the end of chromosomes. Previously, the authors' group showed that meiotic DSB formation is suppressed in a ~20kb region of the telomeres in S. cerevisiae by suppressing the binding of meiosis-specific axis proteins such as Red1 and Hop1. In this study, by precise genome-wide analysis of binding sites of axis proteins, the authors showed that the binding of Red1 and Hop1 to sub-telomeric regions with X and Y' elements is dependent on Rec8 (cohesin) and/or Hop1's chromatin-binding region (CBR). Furthermore, Dot1 functions in a histone H3K79 trimethylation-independent manner, and the silencing proteins Sir2/3 also regulate the binding of Red1 and Hop1 and also the distribution of DSBs in sub-telomeres.

Strengths:

The experiments were conducted with high quality and included nice bioinformatic analyses, and the results were mostly convincing. The text is easy to read.

Weaknesses:

The paper did not provide any new mechanistic insights into how DSB formation is suppressed at sub-telomeres.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, Nagao and Mochizuki examine the fate of germline chromosome ends during somatic genome differentiation in the ciliate Tetrahymena thermophila. During sexual reproduction, a new somatic genome is created from a zygotic, germline-derived genome by extensive programmed DNA elimination events. It has been known for some time that the termini of the germline chromosomes are eliminated, but the exact process and kinetics of the elimination events have not been thoroughly investigated. The authors first use germline-specific telomere probes to show that the loss of these chromosome ends occurs with similar timing as other DNA elimination events. By comparative analysis of the assembled germline and somatic genomes, the authors find that the ends of each of the germline chromosomes are composed of a few hundred kilobases of micronuclear limited sequences (MLS) that are removed starting around 14 hours after the start of conjugation, which initiates sexual development. They then develop an in situ hybridization assay to track the fate of one end of chromosome 4 while simultaneously following the adjacent macronuclear destined sequence (MDS) retained in the new somatic genome. This allows the authors to more clearly show that these adjacent chromosomal segments are initially amplified in the developing genome before the terminal MLS is eliminated. Finally, they mutate the chromosome breakage sequence (CBS) that normally separates the MLS terminus from the adjacent MDS region, to show that strains that develop with only one mutant chromosome can produce viable sexual progeny, but it appears that both the MLS and the MDS from the mutant chromosome are lost. If both chromosome copies have the CBS mutation, the cells arrest during development and do not eliminate many germline-limited sequences and fail to produce viable progeny. Overall, this study provides many new insights into the fate of germline chromosome ends during somatic genome remodeling and suggests extensive coordination of different DNA elimination events in Tetrahymena.

Strengths:

Overall, the experiments were well executed with appropriate controls. The findings are generally robust. Importantly, the study provides several novel findings. First, the authors provide a fairly comprehensive characterization of the size of the MLS at the end of each germline chromosome. I'm not sure whether this has been published elsewhere. Second, the authors develop a novel method to study the fate of chromosome termini during development and use it to conclusively track the elimination of these termini. Third, the authors show that the elimination of these termini appears to occur concurrently with most other DNA elimination events during somatic genome differentiation. And fourth, the authors show that failure to separate these eliminated sequences from the normally retained chromosome alters the fate of these adjacent MDS and the loss of the cells' ability to produce viable progeny.

Weaknesses:

It appears the authors did extensive analysis of the MLS chromosome ends, but did not provide too much information related to their composition. If this has not been published elsewhere, it would be useful to describe the proportion of unique and repetitive sequences and provide more information about the general composition of the chromosome ends. Such information would help the reader understand the nature of these MLS and how they may or may not differ from other eliminated sequences. Although the development of the novel FISH probes for large chromosome ends allowed for these novel discoveries, the signal in several images was visible, but often quite faint. I'm not sure there is anything the authors could do to improve the signal-to-noise ratio, but one needs to stare at the images carefully to understand the findings. One main weakness in the opinion of this reviewer is that the authors did very little to understand why, when a terminal MLS and the adjacent MDS fail to get separated because of failure in chromosome breakage, both segments are eliminated. The authors propose that possibly essential genes in the MDS get silenced, and the resulting lack of gene expression is the issue, but this and other possibilities were not tested. The study would provide more mechanistic insight if they had tried to assess whether the MDS on the CBS mutant chromosome becomes enriched in silencing modifications (e.g., H3K9me3). Alternatively, the authors could have examined changes in gene expression for some of the loci on the neighbouring MDS. The other main weakness is that since the authors only mutated the end of one germline chromosome, it is not clear whether the elimination of the MDS adjacent to the terminal MLS on chromosome 4 when the CBS is mutated is a general phenomenon, i.e., would happen at all chromosome ends, or is unique to the situation at Chromosome 4R. Knowing whether it is a general phenomenon or not would provide important insight into the authors' findings.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Nagao and Mochizuki investigated how the germline (MIC) telomere was removed during programmed genome rearrangement in the developing somatic nucleus (MAC). Using an optimized oligo-FISH procedure, the authors demonstrated that MIC telomeres were co-eliminated with a large region of MIC-limited sequences (MLS) demarcated on the opposite side by a sub-telomeric chromosome breakage site (CBS). This conclusion was corroborated by the latest assembly of the Tetrahymena MIC genome. They further employed CRISPR-Cas9 mutagenesis to disrupt a specific sub-telomeric CBS (4R-CBS). In uniparental progeny (mutant X WT), DNA elimination of the sub-telomeric MLS was not affected, but the adjacent MAC-destined sequence (MDS) may be co-eliminated. However, in biparental progeny (mutant X mutant), global DNA elimination was arrested, revealing previously unrecognized connections between chromosome breakage and DNA elimination. It also paves the way for future studies into the underlying molecular mechanisms. The work is rigorous, well-controlled, and offers important insights into how eukaryotic genomes demarcate genic regions (retained DNA) and regions derived from transposable elements (TE; eliminated DNA) during differentiation. The identification of chromosome breakage sequences as barriers preventing the spread of silencing (and ultimately, DNA elimination) from TE-derived regions into functional somatic genes is a key conceptual contribution.

Strengths:

New method development: Oligo-FISH in Tetrahymena. This allows high-resolution visualization of critical genome rearrangement events during MIC-to-MAC differentiation. This method will be a very powerful tool in this area of study.

Integration of cytological and genomic data. The conclusion is strongly supported by both analyses.

Rigorous genetic analysis of the role played by 4R-CBS in separating the fate of sub-telomeric MLS (elimination) and MDS (retention). DNA elimination in ciliates has long been regarded as an extreme form of gene silencing. Now, chromosome breakage sequences can be viewed as an extreme form of gene insulators.

Weaknesses:

The finding of global disruption of DNA elimination in 4R-CBS mutant progeny is highly intriguing, but it's mostly presented as a hypothesis in the Discussion. The authors propose that the failure to separate MLS from MDS allows aberrant heterochromatin spreading from the former into the latter, potentially silencing genes required for DNA elimination itself. While supported by prior literature on heterochromatin feedback loops, the specific targets silenced are not identified. While results from ChIP-seq and small RNA-seq can greatly strengthen the paper, the reviewer understands that direct molecular characterization may be beyond the scope of the current work.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Programmed DNA elimination (PDE) is a process that removes a substantial amount of genomic DNA during development. While it contradicts the genome constancy rule, an increasing number of organisms have been found to undergo PDE, indicating its potential biological function. Single-cell ciliates have been used as a prominent model system for studying PDE, providing important mechanistic insights into this process. Many of those studies have focused on the excision of internally eliminated sequences (IES) and the subsequent repair using non-homologous end joining (NHEJ). These studies have led to the identification of small RNAs that mark retained or eliminated regions and the transposons that generate double-strand breaks.

In this manuscript, Nagao and Mochizuki examined the other type of breaks in ciliates that were healed with telomere addition. They specifically focused on the sequences at the ends of the germline (MIC) chromosomes, which have received relatively less attention due to the technical challenges associated with the highly repetitive nature of the sequences. The authors used the Tetrahymena model and developed a set of new tools. They used a novel FISH strategy that enables the distinction between germline and somatic telomeres, as well as the retained and eliminated DNA near the chromosome ends. This allows them to track these sequences at the cellular level throughout the development process, where PDE occurs. They also analyzed the more comprehensive germline and somatic genomes and determined at the sequence level the loss of subtelomeric and telomere sequences at all chromosome ends. Their result is reminiscent of the PDE observed in nematodes, where all germline chromosome ends are removed and remodeled. Thus, the finding connects two independent PDE systems, a protozoan and a metazoan, and suggests the convergent evolution of chromosome end removal and remodeling in PDE.

The majority of sites (8/10) at the junctions of retained and eliminated DNA at the chromosome ends contain a chromosome breakage sequence (CBS). The authors created a set of mutants that modify the CBS at the ends of chromosome 4R. CBS regions are challenging for CRISPR due to their AT-rich sequences, making the creation of the 4R-CBS mutants a significant breakthrough. They used the FISH assay to determine if PDE still occurs in these mutant strains with compromised CBS. Surprisingly, they found that instead of blocking PDE, its adjacent retained DNA is now eliminated, suggesting a co-elimination event when the breakage is impaired. Furthermore, in biparental mutant crosses, no PDE occurred, and no viable progeny were produced, indicating that the removal of chromosome ends is crucial for proper PDE and sexual progeny development. Overall, the work demonstrates a critical role for 4R-CBS in separating retained and eliminated DNA.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

A hallmark of cortical development is the temporal progression of lineage programs in radial glia progenitors (RGs) that orderly generate a large set of glutamatergic projection neuron types, which are deployed to the cortex in a largely inside-out sequence. This process is thought to contribute to the formation of proper cortical circuitry, but the underlying cellular and molecular mechanisms remain poorly understood. To a large extent, this is due to technical limitations that can fate map RGs and their progeny with cell type resolution, and manipulate gene expression with proper cell and temporal resolution. Building on the TEMPO technique that Tsumin Lee group developed, here Azur et al show that the RNA binding protein Imp1 functions as a dosage- and stage-dependent post-transcriptional mechanism that orchestrates developmental stage transitions in radial glial progenitors, and controls neuronal fate decisions and spatial organization of neuronal and glial cell progeny. Their results suggest that while transcriptional regulators define available cellular states and gate major transitions, post-transcriptional mechanisms like Imp1 provide an additional layer of control by modulating stage-specific transcript stability. Imp1 thus acts as a temporal coordinator whose dosage and timing determine whether developmental transitions are temporarily delayed or blocked. These findings establish a new framework for understanding how post-transcriptional mechanisms integrate with transcriptional and epigenetic regulatory layers to control cortical temporal patterning.

Strengths:

The authors apply a novel genetic fate mapping and gene manipulation technology (TEMPO) with cellular resolution. This reveals a dosage- and stage-dependent post-transcriptional mechanism that orchestrates developmental stage transitions in radial glial progenitors, and controls neuronal fate decisions and spatial organization of neuronal and glial cell/astrocyte progeny.

Weaknesses:

The endogenous developmental expression pattern of Imp1 and TEMPO-mediated overexpression are not well described or characterized with cellular resolution (whether only in radial glial cells or also in post-mitotic neurons). Thus, the interpretations of the overexpression phenotypes are not always clear.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, Azur et al seek to determine the role of Imp1/Igf2bp1 in regulating the temporal generation of cortical neuron types. The authors showed that overexpression of Imp1 changes the laminar distribution of cortical neurons and suggest that Imp1 plays a temporal role in specifying cell fates.

Strengths:

The study uniquely used TEMPO to investigate the temporal effects of Imp1/Igf2bp1 in cortical development. The disrupted laminar distribution and delayed fate transition are interesting. The results are presented with proper quantification, they are generally well interpreted, and suggest important roles for Imp1.

Weaknesses:

(1) While the results suggest Imp1 is important in regulating cortical neurogenesis, it remains unclear when and where it is expressed to execute such temporal functions. For instance, where is Imp1 expressed in the developing brain? Is it specific to the radial glial cells or ubiquitous in progenitors and neurons? Does it show temporal expression in RGCs?

(2) The advantage and interpretation of TEMPO need further clarification. TEMPO is an interesting method and appears useful in simultaneously labelling cells and controlling gene expression. Since the reporter, Cas9, and gRNA triggers are all driven by ubiquitous promoters and integrated into the genome using piggyBac, it appears logical that the color transition should happen in all cells over time. The color code appears to track the time when the plasmids got integrated instead of the birthday of neurons. Is this logically true? If the TEMPO system is introduced into postmitotic neurons and the CAG promoter is not silenced, would the tri-color transition happen?

(3) The accumulation of neurons at the subplate region would benefit from showing larger views of the affected hemisphere. IUE is invasive. The glass pipette may consistently introduce focal damages and truncate RGCs. It is important to examine slices covering the whole IUE region.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The work by Azur and colleagues makes use of the TEMPO (Temporal Encoding and Manipulation in a Predefined Order) methodology to trace cortical neurogenesis in combination with overexpression of Imp1. Imp1 is a mammalian homologue of the Drosophila Imp, which has been shown to control temporal identity in a stem cell context. In their work, they show that overexpression of Imp1 in radial glia, which generate neurons and macroglia in a sequential manner during cortical development, leads to a disruption of faithful neuron/glia generation. They show that continuous overexpression leads to a distinct phenotypic outcome when compared to paradigms where Imp1 was specifically overexpressed in defined temporal windows, enabled by the unique TEMPO approach. Interestingly, the observed phenotype with 'ectopic' generation of mainly lower cortical layer neurons appears not to be due to migration deficits. Strikingly, the overexpression of Imp1 specifically at later stages also leads to ectopic glia-like foci throughout the developing cortical plate. Altogether, the new data provide new insights regarding the role of the post-transcriptional Imp1 regulator in controlling temporal fate in radial glia for the faithful generation of neurons and glia during cortical development.

Strengths:

The TEMPO approach provides excellent experimental access to probe Imp1 gene function at defined temporal windows. The data is very robust and convincing. The overexpression paradigm and its associated phenotypes match very well the expected outcome based on Imp1 loss-of-function. Overall, the study contributes significantly to our understanding of the molecular cues that are associated with the temporal progression of radial glia fate potential during cortical development.

Weaknesses:

The authors provide some experimental evidence, including live imaging, that deficits related to Imp1 overexpression and subsequent overabundance of lower-layer neurons, or accumulation at the subplate, appear to evolve independently of neuronal migration deficits. However, the analysis at the population level might not suffice to make the claim robust. To analyze neuronal migration in more depth, the authors could trace individual neurons and establish speed and directional parameters for comparison.

In their analysis, the authors mainly rely on temporal parameters/criteria to associate the generation of certain neuron fates. While two markers were used to identify the neuronal fate, the variance seems quite high. The authors could consider utilizing an antibody against Satb2, which would provide additional data points that could help to establish statistical significance in some of the analyses.

The analysis of glia was done at postnatal day 10, although gliogenesis and, in particular, astrocyte maturation last at least until postnatal day 28. The authors could consider extending their analysis to capture the full spectrum of their astrocyte phenotype.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript examines the passage of an intrathecal CSF tracer into skull bone marrow, cortex, and venous compartments using serial MRI at multiple time points. The study builds on recent anatomical and imaging work suggesting direct communication between CSF spaces and bone marrow in the skull. It extends these observations to a larger, clinically heterogeneous human cohort. The imaging methodology is carefully executed, and the dataset is rich. The findings are potentially important for understanding CSF drainage pathways and their associations with inflammation, sleep quality, and cognition. However, key aspects of the interpretation - particularly regarding tracer kinetics and the definition of "clearance" - require clarification and, in my view, reconsideration.

Strengths:

(1) The study employs a well-established intrathecal contrast-enhanced MRI approach with multiple post-injection time points, enabling the assessment of regional tracer dynamics.

(2) The analysis of skull bone marrow in distinct anatomical regions (near the superior sagittal sinus, lateral fissure, and cisterna magna) is novel and informative.

(3) The cohort size is relatively large for an intrathecal tracer study in humans, and the authors make commendable efforts to relate imaging findings to clinical variables such as inflammation, sleep quality, and cognitive performance.

(4) The manuscript is clearly written, the figures are informative, and the discussion is well grounded in recent anatomical and experimental literature on skull-meningeal connections.

Weaknesses:

The central interpretation that a higher percentage increase in skull bone marrow tracer signal at 4.5 hours reflects reduced clearance is not convincingly justified. Based on the existing CSF tracer literature, the 4-6 hour time window is generally considered an enrichment or inflow phase rather than a clearance phase. Later time points (15 and 39 hours) are more likely to reflect clearance or washout. An alternative interpretation - that a higher signal at 4.5 hours reflects more pronounced tracer entry - should be considered and discussed.

Relatedly, the manuscript lacks a clear conceptual separation between tracer enrichment and clearance phases across time points. If 4.5 hours is intended to represent clearance, this assumption requires more vigorous justification and alignment with prior work.

CSF passage via the nasal/olfactory pathway is insufficiently discussed. Previous human imaging studies have questioned the importance of peri-olfactory CSF clearance, yet the present findings suggest delayed enrichment in the nasal turbinates. This discrepancy should be explicitly addressed, including a discussion of potential methodological limitations (e.g., timing of acquisitions, ROI definition, or sensitivity to slow drainage pathways).

More generally, given the descriptive nature of the study and the limited temporal sampling, some conclusions regarding directionality and efficiency of "drainage" may be overstated and would benefit from more cautious framing.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary

Zhou et al. utilize longitudinal, intrathecal contrast-enhanced MRI to investigate a novel physiological pathway: the drainage of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) into the human skull bone marrow. By mapping tracer enrichment across 87 patients at multiple time points, the authors identify regional variations in drainage speed and link these dynamics to systemic factors like aging, hypertension, and diabetes. Most notably, the study suggests that this drainage function serves as a significant mediator between sleep quality and cognitive performance.

Strengths

(1) The study provides a significant transition from murine models to human subjects, showing that CSF-to-marrow communication is a broader phenomenon in clinical cohorts.

(2) The use of four imaging time points (0h to 39h) allows for a precise characterization of tracer kinetics, revealing that the parietal region near the superior sagittal sinus (SSS) is a rapid exit route.

(3) The statistical finding that skull bone marrow drainage accounts for approximately 38% of the link between sleep and cognition provides a provocative new target for neurodegenerative research.

Weaknesses

(1) Figure 1: The figure relies on a single representative brain to illustrate a process that likely varies significantly across different skull anatomies and disease states. In the provided grayscale MRI scans, the tracer enrichment is essentially imperceptible to the naked eye. Without heatmaps or digital subtraction maps (Post-injection minus Baseline) for the entire cohort, it is difficult to substantiate the quantitative "percentage change" data visually.

Reliance on a single, manually placed circular Region of Interest (ROI) is susceptible to sampling bias. A more robust approach would involve averaging multiple ROIs per region (multi-sampling) to ensure the signal is representative of the whole marrow compartment.

(2) Methodological Rigor of Sleep Analysis: The study relies exclusively on the self-reported Pittsburgh Sleep Quality Index (PSQI), which is retrospective and highly prone to recall bias, particularly in a cohort with cognitive impairment. There is no objective verification of sleep (e.g., actigraphy or polysomnography). Since waste clearance is physiologically tied to specific stages, such as Slow-Wave Sleep, subjective scores cannot determine whether drainage is linked to sleep physiology or reflects a higher general disease burden. The MRI captures an acute state during hospitalization, whereas the sleep quality reported covers the month preceding admission. This mismatch complicates the claim that the current drainage function directly reflects historical sleep quality.

Appraisal and Impact

The authors demonstrate the feasibility of monitoring CSF-to-skull marrow drainage in humans. However, the strength of the associations with sleep and cognition is currently attenuated by a lack of visual "proof" in the raw data and a reliance on subjective behavioral metrics. If these technical gaps are explicitly addressed through the use of population heatmaps and more rigorous multi-ROI sampling, this work will significantly advance our understanding of the brain's waste-clearance systems and their role in systemic health.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors injected a contrast agent into patients and followed the induced signal change with MRI. Doing so, they observed cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) drainage whose magnitude and dynamics varied by anatomical location and scaled with a range of cognitive and socio-demographic metrics, including sleep scores and sex.

Strengths:

I would first like to stress that I am not a specialist in the topic of that paper; so my comments should be taken with a grain of salt, and feedback from the other reviewers should also be carefully considered.

I found the text concise and the figures straightforward to understand. Although they are manually defined, the authors compared drainage across different anatomical locations, which is a positive feature. Albeit purely correlative, the attempt to connect these otherwise 'peripheral' measures to cognitive variables is quite interesting. I also particularly liked the last paragraph of the discussion, which listed the main limitations of the study.

Weaknesses:

In the paragraph starting at line 446, the authors interpret poor sleep quality as being a cause and a consequence of impaired CSF clearance, but their approach is purely correlational. In other words, a third variable could be driving both of these parameters (correct?), thereby explaining their correlation. Later, they also proposed that therapeutically altering CSF clearance could improve cognitive symptoms, but, again, if there's a hidden cause of the correlation, that does not seem like a valid possibility. I believe there were other instances of this sort of inferential problem in the Discussion. It seems essential, particularly in clinical research, to precisely identify what the available evidence supports (correlation) and what is speculation (causation).

Assuming I did not miss it, the approach for testing and reporting correlations is not specified. In particular, the authors report correlation with CSF drainage and a variety of other metrics. But how many tests did the authors perform? They solely mention that they used the Benjamini-Hochberg method to correct for multiple comparisons. How were the decisions to test for this or that effect determined? Or did they test all the metrics they had? Also, that particular correction method is limited when statistics are negatively correlated. It would be helpful to validate findings with another approach.

I assume many of the metrics the authors use are also correlated with one another. Is it possible that a single principal component is driving the different correlations they see? Performing dimensionality reduction across available metrics and relating the resulting principal components to CSF drainage would help clarify the forces at play here.

In their interpretations, the authors claim that the CSF drainage they observe occurs through the bone marrow of the skull. How confident can we be in that claim? Is it that there are no other likely possibilities? It might be an unnecessary question, but given there seems to be no causal intervention (which is fine), and no consideration of alternatives, I am wondering whether this is because other possibilities are improbable or whether they were not adequately considered.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In the work from Qiu et al., a workflow aimed at obtaining the stabilization of a simple small protein against mechanical and chemical stressors is presented.

Strengths:

The workflow makes use of state-of-the-art AI-driven structure generation and couples it with more classical computational and experimental characterizations in order to measure its efficacy. The work is well presented, and the results are thorough and convincing.

Weaknesses:

I will comment mostly on the MD results due to my expertise.

The Methods description is quite precise, but is missing some important details:

(1) Version of GROMACS used.

(2) The barostat used.

(3) pH at which the system is simulated.

(4) The pulling is quite fast (but maybe it is not a problem)

(5) What was the value for the harmonic restraint potential? 1000 is mentioned for the pulling potential, but it is not clear if the same value is used for the restraint, too, during pulling.

(6) The box dimensions.

From this last point, a possible criticism arises: Do the unfolded proteins really still stay far enough away from themselves to not influence the result? This might not be the major influence, but for correctness, I would indicate the dimensions of the box in all directions and plot the minimum distance of the protein from copies of itself across the boundary conditions over time.

Additionally, no time series are shown for the equilibration phases (e.g., RMSD evolution over time), which would empower the reader to judge the equilibration of the system before either steered MD or annealing MD is performed.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Qiu, Jun et. al., developed and validated a computational pipeline aimed at stabilizing α-helical bundles into very stable folds. The computational pipeline is a hierarchical computational methodology tasked to generate and filter a pool of candidates, ultimately producing a manageable number of high-confidence candidates for experimental evaluation. The pipeline is split into two stages. In stage I, a large pool of candidate designs is generated by RFdiffusion and ProteinMPNN, filtered down by a series of filters (hydropathy score, foldability assessed by ESMFold and AlphaFold). The final set is chosen by running a series of steered MD simulations. This stage reached unfolding forces above 100pN. In stage II, targeted tweaks are introduced - such as salt bridges and metal ion coordination - to further enhance the stability of the α-helical bundle. The constructs undergo validation through a series of biophysical experiments. Thermal stability is assessed by CD, chemical stability by chemical denaturation, and mechanical stability by AFM.

Strengths:

A hierarchical computational approach that begins with high-throughput generation of candidates, followed by a series of filters based on specific goal-oriented constraints, is a powerful approach for a rapid exploration of the sequence space. This type of approach breaks down the multi-objective optimization into manageable chunks and has been successfully applied for protein design purposes (e.g., the design of protein binders). Here, the authors nicely demonstrate how this design strategy can be applied to successfully redesign a moderately stable α-helical bundle into an ultrastable fold. This approach is highly modular, allowing the filtering methods to be easily swapped based on the specific optimization goals or the desired level of filtering.

Weaknesses:

Assessing the change in stability relative to the WT α-helical bundle is challenging because an additional helix has been introduced, resulting in a comparison between a three-helix bundle and a four-helix bundle. Consequently, the appropriate reference point for comparison is unclear. A more direct and informative approach would have been to redesign the original α-helical bundle of the human spectrin repeat R15, allowing for a more straightforward stability comparison.

While the authors have shown experimentally that stage II constructs have increased the mechanical stability by AFM, they did not show that these same constructs have increased the thermal and chemical stabilities. Since the effects of salt bridges on stability are highly context dependent (orientation, local environment, exposed vs buried, etc.), it is difficult to assess the magnitude of the effect that this change had on other types of stabilities.

The three constructs chosen are 60-70% identical to each other, either suggesting overconstrained optimization of the sequence or a physical constraint inherent to designing ultrastable α-helical bundles. It would be interesting to explore these possible design principles further.

While the use of steered MD is an elegant approach to picking the top N most stable designs, its computational cost may become prohibitive as the number of designs increases or as the protein size grows, especially since it requires simulating a water box that can accommodate a fully denatured protein.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Qiu et al. present a hierarchical framework that combines AI and molecular dynamics simulation to design an α-helical protein with enhanced thermal, chemical, and mechanical stability. Strategically, chemical modification by incorporating additional α-helix, site-specific salt bridges, and metal coordination further enhanced the stability. The experimental validation using single-molecule force spectroscopy and CD melting measurements provides fundamental physical chemical insights into the stabilization of α-helices. Together with the group's prior work on super-stable β strands (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41557-025-01998-3), this research provides a comprehensive toolkit for protein stabilization. This framework has broad implications for designing stable proteins capable of functioning under extreme conditions.

Strengths:

The study represents a complete framework for stabilizing the fundamental protein elements, α-helices. A key strength of this work is the integration of AI tools with chemical knowledge of protein stability.<br /> The experimental validation in this study is exceptional. The single-molecule AFM analysis provided a high-resolution look at the energy landscape of these designed scaffolds. This approach allows for the direct observation of mechanical unfolding forces (exceeding 200 pN) and the precise contribution of individual chemical modifications to global stability. These measurements offer new, fundamental insights into the physicochemical principles that govern α-helix stabilization.

Weaknesses:

(1) The authors report that appending an additional helix increases the overcall stability of the α-helical protein. Could the author provide a more detailed structural explanation for this? Why does the mechanical stability increase as the number of helixes increase? Is there a reported correlation between the number of helices (or the extent of the hydrophobic core) and the stability?

(2) The author analyzed both thermal stability and mechanical stability. It would be helpful for the author to discuss the relationship between these two parameters in the context of their design. Since thermal melting probes equilibrium stability (ΔG), while mechanical stability probes the unfolding energy barriers along the pulling coordinate.

(3) While the current study demonstrates a dramatic increase in global stability, the analysis focuses almost exclusively on the unfolding (melting) process. However, thermodynamic stability is a function of both folding (kf) and unfolding (ku) rates. It remains unclear whether the observed ultrastability is primarily driven by a drastic decrease in the unfolding rate (ku) or if the design also maintains or improves the folding rate (kf)?

(4) The authors chose the spectrin repeat R15 as the starting scaffold for their design. R15 is a well-established model known for its "ultra-fast" folding kinetics, with folding rates (kf ~105s), near three orders of magnitude faster than its homologues like R17 (Scott et.al., Journal of molecular biology 344.1 (2004): 195-205). Does the newly designed protein, with its additional fourth helix and site-specific chemical modifications, retain the exceptionally high folding rate of the parent R15?

Joint Public Review:

Pippadpally et al. investigate how the conserved E3 ubiquitin ligase Highwire (Hiw/Phr1), a well-established negative regulator of synaptic growth, is functionally and spatially regulated. Using a GFP-tagged Hiw transgene in Drosophila, the authors report that disruption of endocytosis via loss of AP-2, synaptojanin, or Rab11-mediated recycling endosome function leads to accumulation of Hiw in neuronal cell bodies as enlarged foci, altogether accompanied by synaptic overgrowth. Provided that the Hiw foci are sensitive to aliphatic alcohol treatment, the authors propose that impaired endocytosis promotes liquid-liquid phase separation of the E3 ubiquitin ligase, reducing its ability to degrade the MAPKKK Wallenda and thereby activating JNK signalling. Crosstalk with BMP signalling and roles for autophagy are also explored within this framework.

Strengths

The work provides a novel tool, the GFP-tagged Hiw transgene, to study the spatio-temporal regulation of the E3 ubiquitin ligase Highwire (Hiw/Phr1) in Drosophila, and its impact on synaptic growth. The results presented point to a potentially thought-provoking connection between endocytic defects, Hiw condensation, Hiw down-regulation and synaptic overgrowth. The specific effects of the endocytic mutants on the redistribution of the Hiw to the neuronal cell body and the genetic interactions between the endocytosis and JNK pathway mutants are convincing.

Weaknesses

Several conclusions are insufficiently supported at this point. For example, evidence that the Hiw foci represent bona fide liquid-liquid phase (LLP) separated condensates is limited. Sensitivity to 1,6-hexanediol is not definitive proof of their liquid condensate nature, and their recovery kinetics after 1,6-hexanediol wash-out and their morphology are inconsistent with a pure liquid behaviour. Furthermore, the claim that the Hiw foci are non-vesicular is not strongly supported, as it is only based on the lack of colocalization with a handful of endosomal proteins.

Importantly, the appearance of the putative condensates is correlative rather than causative for synaptic overgrowth, and in the absence of a mechanistic link between endocytosis and Hiw condensation, the causality is difficult to address. Of note is that the putative condensates are already present (albeit to a lesser extent) in the absence of endocytic defects and that the conclusions rely heavily on overexpressed GFP-Hiw, which may perturb normal protein behaviour and artificially induce condensation or aggregation.

The use of hypomorphic mutants in genetic experiments also introduces some ambiguity in their interpretation, as the results may reflect dosage effects from multiple pathways rather than pathway order. Finally, the manuscript would benefit from a more comprehensive reference to relevant literature on JNKKKs and BMP signalling, as well as on the recycling endosome function in synaptic growth and the regulation of the aforementioned pathways.

Overall, while the work presents thought-provoking observations and a potentially interesting regulatory model, additional experimental rigor and broader contextualization are needed to substantiate the proposed mechanism and its biological relevance.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

In this paper, Stanojcic and colleagues attempt to map sites of DNA replication initiation in the genome of the African trypanosome, Trypanosoma brucei. Their approach to this mapping is to isolate 'short-nascent strands' (SNSs), a strategy adopted previously in other eukaryotes (including in the related parasite Leishmania major), which involves isolation of DNA molecules whose termini contain replication-priming RNA. By mapping the isolated and sequenced SNSs to the genome (SNS-seq), the authors suggest that they have identified origins, which they localise to intergenic (strictly, inter-CDS) regions within polycistronic transcription units and suggest display very extensive overlap with previously mapped R-loops in the same loci. Finally, having defined locations of SNS-seq mapping, they suggest they have identified G4 and nucleosome features of origins, again using previously generated data. Though there is merit in applying a new approach to understand DNA replication initiation in T. brucei, where previous work has used MFA-seq and ChIP of a subunit of the Origin Replication Complex (ORC), there are two significant deficiencies in the study that must be addressed to ensure rigour and accuracy.

(1) The suggestion that the SNS-seq data is mapping DNA replication origins that are present in inter-CDS regions of the polycistronic transcription units of T. brucei is novel and does not agree with existing data on the localisation of ORC1/CDC6, and it is very unclear if it agrees with previous mapping of DNA replication by MFA-seq due to the way the authors have presented this correlation. For these reasons, the findings essentially rely on a single experimental approach, which must be further tested to ensure SNS-seq is truly detecting origins. Indeed, in this regard, the very extensive overlap of SNS-seq signal with RNA-DNA hybrids should be tested further to rule out the possibility that the approach is mapping these structures and not origins.

(2) The authors' presentation of their SNS-seq data is too limited and therefore potentially provides a misleading view of DNA replication in the genome of T. brucei. The work is presented through a narrow focus on SNS-seq signal in the inter-CDS regions within polycistronic transcription units, which constitute only part of the genome, ignoring both the transcription start and stop sites at the ends of the units and the large subtelomeres, which are mainly transcriptionally silent. The authors must present a fuller and more balanced view of SNS-seq mapping across the whole genome to ensure full understanding and clarity.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Stanojcic et al. investigate the origins of DNA replication in the unicellular parasite Trypanosoma brucei. They perform two experiments, stranded SNS-seq and DNA molecular combing. Further, they integrate various publicly available datasets, such as G4-seq and DRIP-seq, into their extensive analysis. Using this data, they elucidate the structure of the origins of replication. In particular, they find various properties located at or around origins, such as polynucleotide stretches, G-quadruplex structures, regions of low and high nucleosome occupancy, R-loops, and that origins are mostly present in intergenic regions. Combining their population-level SNS-seq and their single-molecule DNA molecular combing data, they elucidate the total number of origins as well as the number of origins active in a single cell.

Strengths:

(1) A very strong part of this manuscript is that the authors integrate several other datasets and investigate a large number of properties around origins of replication. Data analysis clearly shows the enrichment of various properties at the origins, and the manuscript concludes with a very well-presented model that clearly explains the authors' understanding and interpretation of the data.

(2) The DNA combing experiment is an excellent orthogonal approach to the SNS-seq data. The authors used the different properties of the two experiments (one giving location information, one giving single-molecule information) well to extract information and contrast the experiments.

(3) The discussion is exemplary, as the authors openly discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the approaches used. Further, the discussion serves its purpose of putting the results in both an evolutionary and a trypanosome-focused context.

Weaknesses:

I have major concerns about the origin of replication sites determined from the SNS-seq data. As a caveat, I want to state that, before reading this manuscript, SNS-seq was unknown to me; hence, some of my concerns might be misplaced.

(1) I do not understand why SNS-seq would create peaks. Replication should originate in one locus, then move outward in both directions until the replication fork moving outward from another origin is encountered. Hence, in an asynchronous population average measurement, I would expect SNS data to be broad regions of + and -, which, taken together, cover the whole genome. Why are there so many regions not covered at all by reads, and why are there such narrow peaks?

(2) I am concerned that up to 96% percent of all peaks are filtered away. If there is so much noise in the data, how can one be sure that the peaks that remain are real? Specifically, if the authors placed the same number of peaks as was measured randomly in intergenic regions, would 4% of these peaks pass the filtering process by chance?

(3) There are 3 previous studies that map origins of replication in T. brucei. Devlin et al. 2016, Tiengwe et al. 2012, and Krasiļņikova et al. 2025 (https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-025-56087-3), all with a different technique: MFA-seq. All three previous studies mostly agree on the locations and number of origins. The authors compared their results to the first two, but not the last study; they found that their results are vastly different from the previous studies (see Supplementary Figure 8A). In their discussion, the authors defend this discrepancy mostly by stating that the discrepancy between these methods has been observed in other organisms. I believe that, given the situation that the other studies precede this manuscript, it is the authors' duty to investigate the differences more than by merely pointing to other organisms. A conclusion should be reached on why the results are different, e.g., by orthogonally validating origins absent in the previous studies.

(4) Some patterns that were identified to be associated with origins of replication, such as G-quadruplexes and nucleosomes phasing, are known to be biases of SNS-seq (see Foulk et al. Characterizing and controlling intrinsic biases of lambda exonuclease in nascent strand sequencing reveals phasing between nucleosomes and G-quadruplex motifs around a subset of human replication origins. Genome Res. 2015;25(5):725-735. doi:10.1101/gr.183848.114).

Are the claims well substantiated?:

My opinion on whether the authors' results support their conclusions depends on whether my concerns about the sites determined from the SNS-seq data can be dismissed. In the case that these concerns can be dismissed, I do think that the claims are compelling.

Impact:

If the origins of replication prove to be distributed as claimed, this study has the potential to be important for two fields. Firstly, in research focused on T. brucei as a disease agent, where essential processes that function differently than in mammals are excellent drug targets. Secondly, this study would impact basic research analyzing DNA replication over the evolutionary tree, where T. brucei can be used as an early-divergent eukaryotic model organism.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The study examines human biases in a regime-change task, in which participants have to report the probability of a regime change in the face of noisy data. The behavioral results indicate that humans display systematic biases, in particular, overreaction in stable but noisy environments and underreaction in volatile settings with more certain signals. fMRI results suggest that a frontoparietal brain network is selectively involved in representing subjective sensitivity to noise, while the vmPFC selectively represents sensitivity to the rate of change.

Strengths:

The study relies on a task that measures regime-change detection primarily based on descriptive information about the noisiness and rate of change. This distinguishes the study from prior work using reversal-learning or change-point tasks in which participants are required to learn these parameters from experiences. The authors discuss these differences comprehensively.

The study uses a simple Bayes-optimal model combined with model fitting, which seems to describe the data well. The model is comprehensively validated.

The authors apply model-based fMRI analyses that provide a close link to behavioral results, offering an elegant way to examine individual biases.

Weaknesses:

The authors have adequately addressed my prior concerns.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

This study concerns how observers (human participants) detect changes in the statistics of their environment, termed regime shifts. To make this concrete, a series of 10 balls are drawn from an urn that contains mainly red or mainly blue balls. If there is a regime shift, the urn is changed over (from mainly red to mainly blue) at some point in the 10 trials. Participants report their belief that there has been a regime shift as a % probability. Their judgement should (mathematically) depend on the prior probability of a regime shift (which is set at one of three levels) and the strength of evidence (also one of three levels, operationalized as the proportion of red balls in the mostly-blue urn and vice versa). Participants are directly instructed of the prior probability of regime shift and proportion of red balls, which are presented on-screen as numerical probabilities. The task therefore differs from most previous work on this question in that probabilities are instructed rather than learned by observation, and beliefs are reported as numerical probabilities rather than being inferred from participants' choice behaviour (as in many bandit tasks, such as Behrens 2007 Nature Neurosci).

The key behavioural finding is that participants over-estimate the prior probability of regime change when it is low, and under estimate it when it is high; and participants over-estimate the strength of evidence when it is low and under-estimate it when it is high. In other words participants make much less distinction between the different generative environments than an optimal observer would. This is termed 'system neglect'. A neuroeconomic-style mathematical model is presented and fit to data.

Functional MRI results how that strength of evidence for a regime shift (roughly, the surprise associated with a blue ball from an apparently red urn) is associated with activity in the frontal-parietal orienting network. Meanwhile at time-points where the probability of a regime shift is high, there is activity in another network including vmPFC. Both networks show individual differences effects, such that people who were more sensitive to strength of evidence and prior probability show more activity in the frontal-parietal and vmPFC-linked networks respectively.

Strengths

(1) The study provides a different task for looking at change-detection and how this depends on estimates of environmental volatility and sensory evidence strength, in which participants are directly and precisely informed of the environmental volatility and sensory evidence strength rather than inferring them through observation as in most previous studies

(2) Participants directly provide belief estimates as probabilities rather than experimenters inferring them from choice behaviour as in most previous studies

(3) The results are consistent with well-established findings that surprising sensory events activate the frontal-parietal orienting network whilst updating of beliefs about the word ('regime shift') activates vmPFC.

Weaknesses

(1) The use of numerical probabilities (both to describe the environments to participants, and for participants to report their beliefs) may be problematic because people are notoriously bad at interpreting probabilities presented in this way, and show poor ability to reason with this information (see Kahneman's classic work on probabilistic reasoning, and how it can be improved by using natural frequencies). Therefore the fact that, in the present study, people do not fully use this information, or use it inaccurately, may reflect the mode of information delivery.

In the response to this comment the authors have pointed out their own previous work showing that system neglect can occur even when numerical probabilities are not used. This is reassuring but there remains a large body of classic work showing that observers do struggle with conditional probabilities of the type presented in the task.

(2) Although a very precise model of 'system neglect' is presented, many other models could fit the data.

For example, you would get similar effects due to attraction of parameter estimates towards a global mean - essentially application of a hyper-prior in which the parameters applied by each participant in each block are attracted towards the experiment-wise mean values of these parameters. For example, the prior probability of regime shift ground-truth values [0.01, 0.05, 0.10] are mapped to subjective values of [0.037, 0.052, 0.069]; this would occur if observers apply a hyper-prior that the probability of regime shift is about 0.05 (the average value over all blocks). This 'attraction to the mean' is a well-established phenomenon and cannot be ruled out with the current data (I suppose you could rule it out by comparing to another dataset in which the mean ground-truth value was different).

More generally, any model in which participants don't fully use the numerical information they were given would produce apparent 'system neglect'. Four qualitatively different example reasons are: 1. Some individual participants completely ignored the probability values given. 2. Participants did not ignore the probability values given, but combined them with a hyperprior as above. 3. Participants had a reporting bias where their reported beliefs that a regime-change had occurred tend to be shifted towards 50% (rather than reporting 'confident' values such 5% or 95%). 4. Participants underweighted probability outliers, resulting in underweighting of evidence in the 'high signal diagnosticity' environment (10.1016/j.neuron.2014.01.020 )

In summary I agree that any model that fits the data would have to capture the idea that participants don't differentiate between the different environments as much as they should, but I think there are a number of qualitatively different reasons why they might do this - of which the above are only examples - hence I find it problematic that the authors present the behaviour as evidence for one extremely specific model.

(3) Despite efforts to control confounds in the fMRI study, including two control experiments, I think some confounds remain.

For example, a network of regions is presented as correlating with the cumulative probability that there has been a regime shift in this block of 10 samples (Pt). However, regardless of the exact samples shown, Pt always increases with sample number (as by the time of later samples, there have been more opportunities for a regime shift)? To control for this the authors include, in a supplementary analysis, an 'intertemporal prior.' I would have preferred to see the results of this better-controlled analysis presented in the main figure. From the tables in the SI it is very difficult to tell how the results change with the includion of the control regressors.

On the other hand, two additional fMRI experiments are done as control experiments and the effect of Pt in the main study is compared to Pt in these control experiments. Whilst I admire the effort in carrying out control studies, I can't understand how these particular experiment are useful controls. For example, in experiment 3 participants simply type in numbers presented on the screen - how can we even have an estimate of Pt from this task?

(4) The Discussion is very long, and whilst a lot of related literature is cited, I found it hard to pin down within the discussion, what the key contributions of this study are. In my opinion it would be better to have a short but incisive discussion highlighting the advances in understanding that arise from the current study, rather than reviewing the field so broadly.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors proposed a new method to infer connectivity from spike trains whose main novelty relies on their approach to mitigate the problem of model mismatch. The latter arises when the inference algorithm is trained or based on a model that does not accurately describe the data. They propose combining domain adaptation with a deep neural architecture and in an architecture called DeepDAM. They apply DeepDAM to an in vivo ground-truth dataset previously recorded in mouse CA1, show that it performs better than methods without domain adaptation, and evaluate its robustness. Finally, they show that their approach can also be applied to a different problem i.e., inferring biophysical properties of individual neurons.

Strengths:

(1) The problem of inferring connectivity from extracellular recording is a very timely one: as the yield of silicon probes steadily increases, the number of simultaneously recorded pairs does so quadratically, drastically increasing the possibility of detecting connected pairs.

(2) Using domain adaptation to address model mismatch is a clever idea, and the way the authors introduced it into the larger architecture seems sensible.

(3) The authors clearly put a great effort into trying to communicate the intuitions to the reader.

Weaknesses:

(1) The validation of the approach is incomplete: due to its very limited size, the single ground-truth dataset considered does not provide a sufficient basis to draw a strong conclusion. While the authors correctly note that this is the only dataset of its kind, the value of this validation is limited compared to what could be done by carefully designing in silico experiments.

(2) Surprisingly, the authors fail to compare their method to the approach originally proposed for the data they validate on (English et al., 2017).

(3) The authors make a commendable effort to study the method's robustness by pushing the limits of the dataset. However, the logic of the robustness analysis is often unclear, and once again, the limited size of the dataset poses major limitations to the authors.

(4) The lack of details concerning both the approach and the validation makes it challenging for the reader to establish the technical soundness of the study.

Although in the current form this study does not provide enough basis to judge the impact of DeepDAM in the broader neuroscience community, it nevertheless puts forward a valuable and novel idea: using domain adaptation to mitigate the problem of model mismatch. This approach might be leveraged in future studies and methods to infer connectivity.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The article is very well written, and the new methodology is presented with care. I particularly appreciated the step-by-step rationale for establishing the approach, such as the relationship between K-means centers and the various parameters. This text is conveniently supported by the flow charts and t-SNE plots. Importantly, I thought the choice of state-of-the-art method was appropriate and the choice of dataset adequate, which together convinced me in believing the large improvement reported. I thought that the crossmodal feature-engineering solution proposed was elegant and seems exportable to other fields. Here are a few notes.<br /> While the validation data set was well chosen and of high quality, it remains a single dataset and also remains a non-recurrent network. The authors acknowledge this in the discussion, but I wanted to chime in to say that for the method to be more than convincing, it would need to have been tested on more datasets. It should be acknowledged that the problem becomes more complicated in a recurrent excitatory network, and thus the method may not work as well in the cortex or in CA3.

While the data is shown to work in this particular dataset (plus the two others at the end), I was left wondering when the method breaks. And it should break if the models are sufficiently mismatched. Such a question can be addressed using synthetic-synthetic models. This was an important intuition that I was missing, and an important check on the general nature of the method that I was missing.

While the choice of state-of-the-art is good in my opinion, I was looking for comments on the methods prior to that. For instance, methods such based on GLMs have been used by the Pillow, Paninski, and Truccolo groups. I could not find a decent discussion of these methods in the main text and thought that both their acknowledgement and rationale for dismissing were missing.

While most of the text was very clear, I thought that page 11 was odd and missing much in terms of introductions. Foremost is the introduction of the dataset, which is never really done. Page 11 refers to 'this dataset', while the previous sentence was saying that having such a dataset would be important and is challenging. The dataset needs to be properly described: what's the method for labeling, what's the brain area, what were the spike recording methodologies, what is meant by two labeling methodologies, what do we know about the idiosyncrasies of the particular network the recording came from (like CA1 is non-recurrent, so which connections)? I was surprised to see 'English et al.' cited in text only on page 13 since their data has been hailed from the beginning.

Further elements that needed definition are the Nsyn and i, which were not defined in the cortex of Equation 2-3: I was not sure if it referred to different samples or different variants of the synthetic model. I also would have preferred having the function f defined earlier, as it is defined for Equation 3, but appears in Equation 2.

When the loss functions are described, it would be important to define 'data' and 'labels' here. This machine learning jargon has a concrete interpretation in this context, and making this concrete would be very important for the readership.

While I appreciated that there was a section on robustness, I did not find that the features studied were the most important. In this context, I was surprised that the other datasets were relegated to supplementary, as these appeared more relevant.

Some of the figures have text that is too small. In particular, Figure 2 has text that is way too small. It seemed to me that the pseudo code could stand alone, and the screenshot of the equations did not need to be repeated in a figure, especially if their size becomes so small that we can't even read them.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The study of Drosophila mating behaviors has offered a powerful entry point for understanding how complex innate behaviors are instantiated in the brain. The effectiveness of this behavioral model stems from how readily quantifiable many components of the courtship ritual are, facilitating the fine-scale correlations between the behaviors and the circuits that underpin their implementation. Detailed quantification, however, can be both time-consuming and error-prone, particularly when scored manually. Song et al. have sought to address this challenge by developing DrosoMating, software that facilitates the automated and high-throughput quantification of 6 common metrics of courtship and mating behaviors. Compared to a human observer, DrosoMating matches courtship scoring with high fidelity. Further, the authors demonstrate that the software effectively detects previously described variations in courtship resulting from genetic background or social conditioning. Finally, they validate its utility in assaying the consequences of neural manipulations by silencing Kenyon cells involved in memory formation in the context of courtship conditioning.

Strengths:

(1) The authors demonstrate that for three key courtship/mating metrics, DrosoMating performs virtually indistinguishably from a human observer, with differences consistently within 10 seconds and no statistically significant differences detected. This demonstrates the software's usefulness as a tool for reducing bias and scoring time for analyses involving these metrics.

(2) The authors validate the tool across multiple genetic backgrounds and experimental manipulations to confirm its ability to detect known influences on male mating behavior.

(3) The authors present a simple, modular chamber design that is integrated with DrosoMating and allows for high-throughput experimentation, capable of simultaneously analyzing up to 144 fly pairs across all chambers.

Weaknesses:

(1) DrosoMating appears to be an effective tool for the high-throughput quantification of key courtship and mating metrics, but a number of similar tools for automated analysis already exist. FlyTracker (CalTech), for instance, is a widely used software that offers a similar machine vision approach to quantifying a variety of courtship metrics. It would be valuable to understand how DrosoMating compares to such approaches and what specific advantages it might offer in terms of accuracy, ease of use, and sensitivity to experimental conditions.

(2) The courtship behaviors of Drosophila males represent a series of complex behaviors that unfold dynamically in response to female signals (Coen et al., 2014; Ning et al., 2022; Roemschied et al., 2023). While metrics like courtship latency, courtship index, and copulation duration are useful summary statistics, they compress the complexity of actions that occur throughout the mating ritual. The manuscript would be strengthened by a discussion of the potential for DrosoMating to capture more of the moment-to-moment behaviors that constitute courtship. Even without modifying the software, it would be useful to see how the data can be used in combination with machine learning classifiers like JAABA to better segment the behavioral composition of courtship and mating across genotypes and experimental manipulations. Such integration could substantially expand the utility of this tool for the broader Drosophila neuroscience community.

(3) While testing the software's capacity to function across strains is useful, it does not address the "universality" of this method. Cross-species studies of mating behavior diversity are becoming increasingly common, and it would be beneficial to know if this tool can maintain its accuracy in Drosophila species with a greater range of morphological and behavioral variation. Demonstrating the software's performance across species would strengthen claims about its broader applicability.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This paper introduces "DrosoMating," an integrated hardware and software solution for automating the analysis of male Drosophila courtship. The authors aim to provide a low-cost, accessible alternative to expensive ethological rigs by utilizing a custom acrylic chamber and smartphone-based recording. The system focuses on quantifying key temporal metrics-Courtship Index (CI), Copulation Latency (CL), and Mating Duration (MD)-and is applied to behavioral paradigms involving memory mutants (orb2, rut).

The development of open-source behavioral tools is a significant contribution to neuroethology, and the authors successfully demonstrate a system that simplifies the setup for large-scale screens. A major strength of the work is the specific focus on automating Copulation Latency and Mating Duration, metrics that are often labor-intensive to score manually.

However, there are several limitations in the current analysis and validation that affect the strength of the conclusions:

First, the statistical rigor requires substantial improvement. The analysis of multi-group experiments (e.g., comparing four distinct strains or factorial designs with genotype and training) currently relies on multiple independent Student's t-tests. This approach is statistically invalid for these experimental designs as it inflates the family-wise Type I error rate. To support the claims of strain-specific differences or learning deficits, the data must be analyzed using Analysis of Variance (ANOVA) to properly account for multiple comparisons and to explicitly test for interaction effects between genotype and training conditions.

Second, the biological validation using w1118 and y1 mutants entails a potential confound. The authors attribute the low Courtship Index in these strains to courtship-specific deficits. However, both strains are known to exhibit general locomotor sluggishness (due to visual or pigmentation/behavioral defects). Since "following" behavior is likely a component of the Courtship Index, a reduction in this metric could reflect a general motor deficit rather than a specific lack of reproductive motivation. Without controlling for general locomotion, the interpretation of these behavioral phenotypes remains ambiguous.

Third, the benchmarking of the system is currently limited to comparisons against manual scoring. Given that the field has largely adopted sophisticated open-source tracking tools (e.g., Ctrax, FlyTracker, JAABA), the utility of DrosoMating would be better contextualized by comparing its performance - in terms of accuracy, speed, or identity maintenance - against these existing automated standards, rather than solely against human observation.

Finally, the visual presentation of the data hinders the assessment of the system's temporal precision. While the system is designed to capture time-resolved metrics, the results are presented primarily as aggregate bar plots. The absence of behavioral ethograms or raster plots makes it difficult to verify the software's ability to accurately detect specific transitions, such as the exact onset of copulation.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This fundamental study identifies a new mechanism that involves a mycobacterial nucleomodulin manipulation of the host histone methyltransferase COMPASS complex to promote infection. Although other intracellular pathogens are known to manipulate histone methylation, this is the first report demonstrating specific targeting the COMPASS complex by a pathogen. The rigorous experimental design using of state-of-the art bioinformatic analysis, protein modeling, molecular and cellular interaction and functional approaches, culminating with in vivo infection modeling provide convincing, unequivocal evidence that supports the authors claims. This work will be of particular interest to cellular microbiologist working on microbial virulence mechanisms and effectors, specifically nucleomodulins, and cell/cancer biologists that examine COMPASS dysfunction in cancer biology.

Strengths:

(1) The strengths of this study include the rigorous and comprehensive experimental design that involved numerous state-of-the-art approaches to identify potential nucleomodulins, define molecular nucleomodulin-host interactions, cellular nucleomodulin localization, intracellular survival, and inflammatory gene transcriptional responses, and confirmation of the inflammatory and infection phenotype in a small animal model.

(2) The use of bioinformatic, cellular and in vivo modeling that are consistent and support the overall conclusions is a strengthen of the study. In addition, the rigorous experimental design and data analysis including the supplemental data provided, further strengthens the evidence supporting the conclusions.

Weaknesses:

(1) This work could be stronger if the MgdE-COMPASS subunit interactions that negatively impact COMPASS complex function were more well defined. Since the COMPASS complex consists of many enzymes, examining functional impact on each of the components would be interesting.

(2) Examining the impact of WDR5 inhibitors on histone methylation, gene transcription and mycobacterial infection could provide additional rigor and provide useful information related to mechanisms and specific role of WDR5 inhibition on mycobacteria infection.

(3) The interaction between MgdE and COMPASS complex subunit ASH2L is relatively undefined and studies to understand the relationship between WDR5 and ASH2L in COMPASS complex function during infection could provide interesting molecular details that are undefined in this study.

(4) The AlphaFold prediction results for all the nuclear proteins examined could be useful. Since the interaction predictions with COMPASS subunits range from 0.77 for WDR5 and 0.47 for ASH2L, it is not clear how the focus on COMPASS complex over other nuclear proteins was determined.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have addressed the weaknesses that were identified by this reviewer by providing rational explanation and specific references that support the findings and conclusions.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Chen et al addresses an important aspect of pathogenesis for mycobacterial pathogens, seeking to understand how bacterial effector proteins disrupt the host immune response. To address this question the authors sought to identify bacterial effectors from M. tuberculosis (Mtb) that localize to the host nucleus and disrupt host gene expression as a means of impairing host immune function. Their revised manuscript has strengthened their observations by performing additional experiments with BCG strains expressing tagged MgdE.

Strengths:

The researchers conducted a rigorous bioinformatic analysis to identify secreted effectors containing mammalian nuclear localization signal (NLS) sequences, which formed the basis of quantitative microscopy analysis to identify bacterial proteins that had nuclear targeting within human cells. The study used two complementary methods to detect protein-protein interaction: yeast two-hybrid assays and reciprocal immunoprecipitation (IP). The combined use of these techniques provides strong evidence of interactions between MgdE and SET1 components and suggests the interactions are in fact direct. The authors also carried out rigorous analysis of changes in gene expression in macrophages infected with MgdE mutant BCG. They found strong and consistent effects on key cytokines such as IL6 and CSF1/2, suggesting that nuclear-localized MgdE does in fact alter gene expression during infection of macrophages. The revised manuscript contains additional biochemical analyses of BCG strains expressing tagged MgdE that further supports their microscopy findings.

Weaknesses:

There are some drawbacks in this study that limit the application of the findings to M. tuberculosis (Mtb) pathogenesis. Much of the study relies on transfected/ overexpressed proteins in non-immune cells (HEK293T) or in yeast using 2-hybrid approaches, and pathogenesis is studied using the BCG vaccine strain rather than virulent Mtb. In addition, the magnitude of some of the changes they observe are quite small. However, overall the key findings of the paper - that MgdE interacts with COMPASS and alters gene expression are well-supported.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have performed additional experiments that have addressed several important concerns from the original manuscript and they now include an analysis of BCG strains expressing FLAG-tagged MgdE that supports their model. However here are still a few areas where the data are difficult to interpret or do not support their claims.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

In this study, Chen L et al. systematically analyzed the mycobacterial nucleomodulins and identified MgdE as a key nucleomodulin in pathogenesis. They found that MgdE enters into host cell nucleus through two nuclear localization signals, KRIR108-111 and RLRRPR300-305, and then interacts with COMPASS complex subunits ASH2L and WDR5 to suppress H3K4 methylation-mediated transcription of pro-inflammatory cytokines, thereby promoting mycobacterial survival.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have adequately addressed previous concerns through additional experimentation. The revised data robustly support the main conclusions, demonstrating that MgdE engages the host COMPASS complex to suppress H3K4 methylation, thereby repressing pro-inflammatory gene expression and promoting mycobacterial survival. This work represents a significant conceptual advance.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors develop a Python-based analysis framework for cellular organelle segmentation, feature extraction, and analysis for live-cell imaging videos. They demonstrate that their pipeline works for two organelles (mitochondria and lysosomes) and provide a step-by-step overview of the AutoMorphoTrack package.

Strengths:

The authors provide evidence that the package is functional and can provide publication-quality data analysis for mitochondrial and lysosomal segmentation and analysis.

Weaknesses:

(1) I was enthusiastic about the manuscript as a good end-to-end cell/organelle segmentation and quantification pipeline that is open-source, and is indeed useful to the field. However, I'm not certain AutoMorphoTrack fully fulfills this need. It appears to stitch together basic FIJI commands in a Python script that an experienced user can put together within a day. The paper reads as a documentation page, and the figures seem to be individual analysis outputs of a handful of images. Indeed, a recent question on the image.sc forum prompted similar types of analysis and outputs as a simple service to the community, and with seemingly better results and integrated organelle identity tracking (which is necessary in my opinion for live imaging). I believe this is a better fit in the methods section of a broader work. https://forum.image.sc/t/how-to-analysis-organelle-contact-in-fiji-with-time-series-data/116359/5.

(2) The authors do not discuss or compare to any other pipelines that can accomplish similar analyses, such as Imaris, CellProfiler, or integrate options for segmentation, etc., such as CellPose, StarDist.

(3) Although LLM-based chatbot integration seems to have been added for novelty, the authors do not demonstrate in the manuscript, nor provide instructions for making this easy-to-implement, given that it is directed towards users who do not code, presumably.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

AutoMorphoTrack provides an end-to-end workflow for organelle-scale analysis of multichannel live-cell fluorescence microscopy image stacks. The pipeline includes organelle detection/segmentation, extraction of morphological descriptors (e.g., area, eccentricity, "circularity," solidity, aspect ratio), tracking and motility summaries (implemented via nearest-neighbor matching using cKDTree), and pixel-level overlap/colocalization metrics between two channels. The manuscript emphasizes a specific application to live imaging in neurons, demonstrated on iPSC-derived dopaminergic neuronal cultures with mitochondria in channel 0 and lysosomes in channel 1, while asserting adaptability to other organelle pairs.

The tool is positioned for cell biologists, including users with limited programming experience, primarily through two implemented modes of use: (i) a step-by-step Jupyter notebook and (ii) a modular Python package for scripted or batch execution, alongside an additional "AI-assisted" mode that is described as enabling analyses through natural-language prompts.

The motivation and general workflow packaging are clear, and the notebook-plus-modules structure is a reasonable engineering choice. However, in its current form, the manuscript reads more like a convenient assembly of standard methods than a validated analytical tool. Key claims about robustness, accuracy, and scope are not supported by quantitative evidence, and the 'AI-assisted' framing is insufficiently defined and attributes to the tool capabilities that are provided by external LLM platforms rather than by AutoMorphoTrack itself. In addition, several figure, metric, and statistical issues-including physically invalid plots and inconsistent metric definitions-directly undermine trust in the quantitative outputs.

Strengths:

(1) Clear motivation: lowering the barrier for organelle-scale quantification for users who do not routinely write custom analysis code.

(2) Multiple entry points: an interactive notebook together with importable modules, emphasizing editable parameters rather than a fully opaque black box.

(3) End-to-end outputs: automated generation of standardized visualizations and tables that, if trustworthy, could help users obtain quantitative summaries without assembling multiple tools.

Weaknesses:

(1) "AI-assisted / natural-language" functionality is overstated.

The manuscript implies an integrated natural-language interface, but no such interface is implemented in the software. Instead, users are encouraged to use external chatbots to help generate or modify Python code or execute notebook steps. This distinction is not made clearly and risks misleading readers.

(2) No quantitative validation against trusted ground truth.

There is no systematic evaluation of segmentation accuracy, tracking fidelity, or interaction/overlap metrics against expert annotations or controlled synthetic data. Without such validation, accuracy, parameter sensitivity, and failure modes cannot be assessed.

(3) Limited benchmarking and positioning relative to existing tools.

The manuscript does not adequately compare AutoMorphoTrack to established platforms that already support segmentation, morphometrics, tracking, and colocalization (e.g., CellProfiler) or to mitochondria-focused toolboxes (e.g., MiNA, MitoGraph, Mitochondria Analyzer). This is particularly problematic given the manuscript's implicit novelty claims.

(4) Core algorithmic components are basic and likely sensitive to imaging conditions.

Heavy reliance on thresholding and morphological operations raises concerns about robustness across varying SNR, background heterogeneity, bleaching, and organelle density; these issues are not explored.

(5) Multiple figure, metric, and statistical issues undermine confidence.

The most concerning include:<br /> (i) "Circularity (4πA/P²)" values far greater than 1 (Figures 2 and 7, and supplementary figures), which is inconsistent with the stated definition and strongly suggests a metric/label mismatch or computational error.

(ii) A displacement distribution extending to negative values (Figure 3B). This is likely a plotting artifact (e.g., KDE boundary bias), but as shown, it is physically invalid and undermines confidence in the motility analysis.

(iii) Colocalization/overlap metrics that are inconsistently defined and named, with axis ranges and terminology that can mislead (e.g., Pearson r reported for binary masks without clarification).

(iv) Figure legends that do not match the displayed panels, and insufficient reporting of Ns, p-values, sampling units, and statistical assumptions.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

AutoMorphoTrack is a Python package for quantitatively evaluating organelle shape, movement, and colocalization in high-resolution live cell imaging experiments. It is designed to be a beginning-to-end workflow from segmentation through metric graphing, which is easy to implement. The paper shows example results from their images of mitochondria and lysosomes within cultured neurons, demonstrating how it can be used to understand organelle processing.

Strengths:

The text is well-written and easy to follow. I particularly appreciate tables 1 and 2, which clearly define the goals of each module, the tunable parameters, and the input and outputs. I can see how the provided metrics would be useful to other groups studying organelle dynamics. Additionally, because the code is open-source, it should be possible for experienced coders to use this as a backbone and then customize it for their own purposes.

Weaknesses:

Unfortunately, I was not able to install the package to test it myself using any standard install method. This is likely fixable by the authors, but until a functional distribution exists, the utility of this tool is highly limited. I would be happy to re-review this work after this is fixed.

The authors claim that there is "AI-Assisted Execution and Natural-Language Interface". However, this is never defended in any of the figures, and from quickly reviewing the .py files, there does not seem to be any built-in support or interface for this. Without significantly more instructions on how to connect this package to a (free) LLM, along with data to prove that this works reproducibly to produce equivalent results, this section should be removed.

Additionally, I have a few suggestions/questions:

(1) Red-green images are difficult for colorblind readers. I recommend that the authors change all raw microscopy images to a different color combination.

(2) For all of the velocity vs displacement graphs (Figure 3C and subpart G of every supplemental figure), there is a diagonal line clearly defining a minimum limit of detected movement. Is this a feature of the dataset (drift /shakiness /etc) or some sort of minimum movement threshold in the tracking algorithm? This should be discussed in the text.

(3) Integrated Correlation Summary (Figure 5) - Pearson is likely the wrong metric for most of these metric pairs because even interesting relationships may be non-linear. Please replace with Spearman correlation, which is less dependent on linearity.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors mapped afferent inputs to distinct cell populations in the ventral tegmental area (VTA) using dimensionality reduction techniques, revealing markedly different connectivity patterns under normal versus drug-treated conditions. They further showed that drug-induced changes in inputs were negatively correlated with the expression of ion channels and proteins involved in synaptic transmission. Functional validation demonstrated that knockdown of a specific voltage-gated calcium channel led to reduced afferent inputs, highlighting a causal link between gene expression and connectivity.

The authors have clearly addressed the reviewers' previous comments. The study's earlier weaknesses were thoroughly discussed, and additional data were provided to strengthen the findings. Overall, the revised version incorporates more extensive datasets and analyses, resulting in a more robust and compelling study.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

The application of rabies virus (RabV)-mediated transsynaptic tracing has been widely utilized for mapping cell-type-specific neural connectivities and examining potential modifications in response to biological phenomena or pharmacological interventions. Despite the predominant focus of studies on quantifying and analyzing labeling patterns within individual brain regions based on labeling abundance, such an approach may inadvertently overlook systemic alterations. There exists a considerable opportunity to integrate RabV tracing data with the global connectivity patterns and the transcriptomic signatures of labeled brain regions. In the present study, the authors take an important step towards achieving these objectives.

Specifically, the authors conducted an intensive reanalysis of a previously generated large dataset of RabV tracing to the ventral tegmental area (VTA) using dimension reduction methods such as PCA and UMPA. This reaffirmed the authors's earlier conclusion that different cell types in the VTA, namely dopamine neurons (DA) and GABAergic neurons, exhibit quantitatively distinct input patterns, and a single dose of addictive drugs, such as cocaine and morphine, induced altered labeling patterns. Additionally, the authors illustrate that distinct axes of PCA can discriminate experimental variations, such as minor differences in the injection site of viral tracers, from bona fide alterations in labeling patterns caused by drugs of abuse. While the specific mechanisms underlying altered labeling in most brain regions remain unclear, whether involving synaptic strength, synaptic numbers, pre-synaptic activities, or other factors, the present study underscores the efficacy of an informatics approach in extracting more comprehensive information from the RabV-based circuit mapping data.

Moreover, the authors showcased the utility of their previously devised bulk gene expression patterns inferred by the Allen Gene Expression Atlas (AGEA) and "projection portrait" derived from bulk axon mapping data sourced from the Allen Mouse Brain Connectivity Atlas. The utilization of such bulk data rests upon several limitations. For instance, the collection of axon mapping data involves an arbitrary selection of both cell type-specific and non-specific data, which might overlook crucial presynaptic partners, and often includes contamination from neighboring undesired brain regions. Concerns arise regarding the quantitativeness of AGEA, which may also include the potential oversight of key presynaptic partners. Nevertheless, the authors conscientiously acknowledged these potential limitations associated with the dataset.

Notably, building on the observation of a positive correlation between the basal expression levels of Ca2+ channels and the extent of drug-induced changes in RabV labeling patterns, the authors conducted a CRISPRi-based knockdown of a single Ca2+ channel gene. This intervention resulted in a reduction of RabV labeling, supporting that the observed gene expression patterns have causality in RabV labeling efficiency. While a more nuanced discussion is necessary for interpreting this result (see below), overall I commend the authors for their efforts to leverage the existing dataset in a more meaningful way. This endeavor has the potential to contribute significantly to our understanding of the mechanisms underlying alterations in RabV labeling induced by drugs of abuse.

Finally, drawing upon the aforementioned reanalysis of previous data, the authors underscored that a single administration of ketamine/xylazine anesthesia could induce enduring modifications in RabV labeling patterns for VTA DA neurons, specifically those projecting to the nucleus accumbens and amygdala. Given the potential impact of such alterations on motivational behaviors at a broader level, I fully agree that prudent consideration is warranted when employing ketamine/xylazine for the investigation of motivational behaviors in mice.

Comments on revisions:

In the re-revised version, the authors have addressed all of my previous comments. I no longer have any major concerns.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Authors mapped monosynaptic inputs to dopamine, GABA, and glutamate neurons in the ventral tegmental area (VTA) under different anesthesia methods, and under drug (cocaine, morphine, methamphetamine, amphetamine, nicotine, fluoxetine). First, they propose an analysis method to separate the actual manipulation effects from the variability caused by experimental procedures. Using this method, they found differences in the anatomical location of monosynaptic inputs to dopamine neurons under different conditions, and identified some key brain areas for such separation. They also searched the database for gene expression patterns that are common across input brain areas, with some changes by anesthesia or drug administration.

Strengths:

The whole-brain approach to address drug effects is appealing, and their conclusion is clear. The methodology and motivation are clearly explained.

Weaknesses:

While gene expression analyses may not be related to their findings on the anatomical effects of drugs, this is a nice starting point for follow-up studies.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors show that corticotropin-releasing factor (CRF) neurons in the central amygdala (CeA) and bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BNST) monosynaptically target cholinergic interneurons (CINs) in the dorsal striatum of rodents. Functionally, activation of CRFR1 receptors increases CIN firing rate, and this modulation was reduced by pre-exposure to ethanol. This is an interesting finding, with potential significance for alcohol use disorders.

Strengths:

Well-conceived circuit mapping experiments identify a novel pathway by which the CeA and BNST can modulate dorsal striatal function by controlling cholinergic tone. Important insight into how CRF, a neuropeptide that is important in mediating aspects of stress, affective/motivational processes and drug-seeking, modulates dorsal striatal function.

Weaknesses:

(1) Tracing and expression experiments were performed both in mice and rats (often in non-overlapping ways). While these species are similar in many ways, differences do exist. The authors address this important point in their final text.

(2) As the authors point out, CRF likely modulates CIN activity in both direct and indirect ways. As justified, exploration of the network-level modulation of CINs by CRF (and how these processes may interact with direct modulation via CRFR1 on CINs) is left for future studies.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Essoh and colleagues present a thorough and elegant study identifying the central amygdala and BNST as key sources of CRF input to the dorsal striatum. Using monosynaptic rabies tracing and electrophysiology, they show direct connections to cholinergic interneurons. The study builds on previous findings that CRF increases CIN firing, extending them by measuring acetylcholine levels in slices and applying optogenetic stimulation of CRF+ fibers. It also uncovers a novel interaction between alcohol and CRF signaling in the striatum, likely to spark significant interest and future research.

Strengths:

A key strength is the integration of anatomical and functional approaches to demonstrate these projections and assess their impact on target cells, striatal cholinergic interneurons.

Comments on revisions:

No further concerns or recommendations.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors demonstrate that CRF neurons in the extended amygdala form GABAergic synapses on to cholinergic interneurons and that CRF can excite these neurons. The evidence is strong, however the authors lack to make a compelling connection showing CRF released from these extended amygdala neurons is mediating any of these effects. Further, they show that acute alcohol appears to modulate this action, although the effect size is not particularly robust.

Strengths:

This is an exciting connection from the extended amygdala to the striatum that provides a new direction for how these regions can modulate behavior. The work is rigorous and well done.

Weaknesses:

The effects of acute ethanol are modest but consistent, the potential role of this has yet to be determined. Further, the opto stim experiments are conducted in an ai32 mouse, so it is impossible to determine if that is from CEA and BNST, vs. another population of CRF containing neurons. This is an important caveat that was acknowledged.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This study presents an interesting behavioral paradigm and reveals interactive effects of social hierarchy and threat type on defensive behaviors. However, addressing the aforementioned points regarding methodological detail, rigor in behavioral classification, depth of result interpretation, and focus of the discussion is essential to strengthen the reliability and impact of the conclusions in a revised manuscript.

Strengths:

The paper is logically sound, featuring detailed classification and analysis of behaviors, with a focus on behavioral categories and transitions, thereby establishing a relatively robust research framework.

Weaknesses:

Several points require clarification or further revision.

(1) Methods and Terminology Regarding Social Hierarchy:

The study uses the tube test to determine subordinate status, but the methodological description is quite brief. Please provide a more detailed account of the experimental procedure and the criteria used for determination.

The dominance hierarchy is established based on pairs of mice. However, the use of terms like "group cohesion" - typically applied to larger groups - to describe dyadic interactions seems overstated. Please revise the terminology to more accurately reflect the pairwise experimental setup.

(2) Criteria and Validity of Behavioral Classification:

The criteria for classifying mouse behaviors (e.g., passive defense, active defense) are not sufficiently clear. Please explicitly state the operational definitions and distinguishing features for each behavioral category.

How was the meaningfulness and distinctness of these behavioral categories ensured to avoid overlap? For instance, based on Figure 3E, is "active defense" synonymous with "investigative defense," involving movement to the near region followed by return to the far region? This requires clearer delineation.

The current analysis focuses on a few core behaviors, while other recorded behaviors appear less relevant. Please clarify the principles for selecting or categorizing all recorded behaviors.

(3) Interpretation of Key Findings and Mechanistic Insights:

Looming exposure increased the proportion of proactive bouts in the dominant zone but decreased it in the subordinate zone (Figure 4G), with a similar trend during rat exposure. Please provide a potential explanation for this consistent pattern. Does this consistency arise from shared neural mechanisms, or do different behavioral strategies converge to produce similar outputs under both threats?

(4) Support for Claims and Study Limitations:

The manuscript states that this work addresses a gap by showing defensive responses are jointly shaped by threat type and social rank, emphasizing survival-critical behaviors over fear or stress alone. However, it is possible that the behavioral differences stem from varying degrees of danger perception rather than purely strategic choices. This warrants a clear description and a deeper discussion to address this possibility.

The Discussion section proposes numerous brain regions potentially involved in fear and social regulation. As this is a behavioral study, the extensive speculation on specific neural circuitry involvement, without supporting neuroscience data, appears insufficiently grounded and somewhat vague. It is recommended to focus the discussion more on the implications of the behavioral findings themselves or to explicitly frame these neural hypotheses as directions for future research.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors investigate how dominance hierarchy shapes defensive strategies in mice under two naturalistic threats: a transient visual looming stimulus and a sustained live rat. By comparing single versus paired testing, they report that social presence attenuates fear and that dominant and subordinate mice exhibit different patterns of defensive and social behaviors depending on threat type. The work provides a rich behavioral dataset and a potentially useful framework for studying hierarchical modulation of innate fear.

Strengths:

(1) The study uses two ecologically meaningful threat paradigms, allowing comparison across transient and sustained threat contexts.

(2) Behavioral quantification is detailed, with manual annotation of multiple behavior types and transition-matrix level analysis.

(3) The comparison of dominant versus subordinate pairs is novel in the context of innate fear.

(4) The manuscript is well-organized and clearly written.

(5) Figures are visually informative and support major claims.

Weaknesses:

Lack of neural mechanism insights.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This study examines how dominance hierarchy influences innate defensive behaviors in pair-housed male mice exposed to two types of naturalistic threats: a transient looming stimulus and a sustained live rat. The authors show that social presence reduces fear-related behaviors and promotes active defense, with dominant mice benefiting more prominently. They also demonstrate that threat exposure reinforces social roles and increases group cohesion. The work highlights the bidirectional interaction between social structure and defensive behavior.

Strengths:

This study makes a valuable contribution to behavioral neuroscience through its well-designed examination of socially modulated fear. A key strength is the use of two ethologically relevant threat paradigms - a transient looming stimulus and a sustained live predator, enabling a nuanced comparison of defensive behaviors. The experimental design is robust, systematically comparing animals tested alone versus with their cage mate to cleanly isolate social effects. The behavioral analysis is sophisticated, employing detailed transition maps that reveal how social context reshapes behavioral sequences, going beyond simple duration measurements. The finding that social modulation is rank-dependent adds significant depth, linking social hierarchy to adaptive defense strategies. Furthermore, the demonstration that threat exposure reciprocally enhances social cohesion provides a compelling systems-level perspective. Together, these elements establish a strong behavioral framework for future investigations into the neural circuits underlying socially modulated innate fear.

Weaknesses:

The study exhibits several limitations. The neural mechanism proposed is speculative, as the study provides no causal evidence.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This paper investigates the control signals that drive event model updating during continuous experience. The authors apply predictions from previously published computational models to fMRI data acquired while participants watched naturalistic video stimuli. They first examine the time course of BOLD pattern changes around human-annotated event boundaries, revealing pattern changes preceding the boundary in anterior temporal and then parietal regions, followed by pattern stabilization across many regions. The authors then analyze time courses around boundaries generated by a model that updates event models based on prediction error and another that uses prediction uncertainty. These analyses reveal overlapping but partially distinct dynamics for each boundary type, suggesting that both signals may contribute to event segmentation processes in the brain.

Strengths:

The question addressed by this paper is of high interest to researchers working on event cognition, perception, and memory. There has been considerable debate about what kinds of signals drive event boundaries, and this paper directly engages with that debate by comparing prediction error and prediction uncertainty as candidate control signals.

The authors use computational models that explain significant variance in human boundary judgments, and they report the variance explained clearly in the paper.

The authors' method of using computational models to generate predictions about when event model updating should occur is a valuable mechanistic alternative to methods like HMM or GSBS, which are data-driven.

The paper utilizes an analysis framework that characterizes how multivariate BOLD pattern dissimilarity evolves before and after boundaries. This approach offers an advance over previous work focused on just the boundary or post-boundary points.

Weaknesses:

Boundaries derived from prediction error and uncertainty are correlated for the naturalistic stimuli. This raises some concerns about how well their distinct contributions to brain activity can be separated. While the authors attempt to look at the unique variance, there is a limit to how effectively this can be done without experimentally dissociating prediction error and uncertainty.

The authors reports an average event length of ~20 seconds, and they also look +20 and -20 seconds around each event boundary. Thus, it's unclear how often pre- and post-boundary timepoints are part of adjacent events. This complicates the interpretations of the reported timecourses.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Tan et al. examined how multivoxel patterns shift in time windows surrounding event boundaries caused by both prediction errors and prediction uncertainty. They observed that some regions of the brain show earlier pattern shifts than others, followed by periods of increased stability. The authors combine their recent computational model to estimate event boundaries that are based on prediction error vs. uncertainty and use this to examine the moment-to-moment dynamics of pattern changes. I believe this is a meaningful contribution that will be of interest to memory, attention, and complex cognition research.

Strengths:

The authors have shown exceptional transparency in terms of sharing their data, code, and stimuli which is beneficial to the field for future examinations and to the reproduction of findings. The manuscript is well written with clear figures. The study starts from a strong theoretical background to understand how the brain represents events and have used a well-curated set of stimuli. Overall, the authors extend the event segmentation theory beyond prediction error to include prediction uncertainty which is an important theoretical shift that has implications in episodic memory encoding, use of semantic and schematic knowledge and to attentional processing.

Weaknesses:

(1) I am not fully satisfied with the author's explanation of pattern shifts occurring 11.9s prior to event boundaries. The average length of time for an event was 21.4 seconds. The window around the identified event boundaries was 20 seconds on either side. The earliest identified pattern shift peaks occur at 11.9s prior to the actual event boundary. This would mean on average, a pattern shift is occurring approximately at the midway point of the event (11.9s prior to a boundary of a 21.4s event is approx. the middle of an event). The authors offer up an explanation in which top down regions signal an update that propagates to lower order regions closer to the boundary. To make this interpretation concrete, they added an example: "in a narrative where a goal is reached midway-for instance, a mystery solved before the story formally ends-higher-order regions may update the event representation at that point, and this updated model then cascades down to shape processing in lower-level regions". This might make sense in a one-off case of irregular storytelling, but it is odd to think this would generalize. If an event is occurring and a given collection of regions represent that event, it doesn't follow the accepted convention of multivariate representational analysis that that set of regions would undergo such a large shift in patterns in the middle of an event. The stabilization of these patterns taking so long is also odd to me. I suspect some of these findings may be due to the stimuli used in this experiment and I am not confident this would generalize and invite the authors to disagree and explain. In the case of the exercise routine video, I try to imagine going from the push-up event to the jumping jack event. The actor stops doing pushups, stands up, and moves minimally for 16 seconds (these lulls are not uncommon). At that point they start doing jumping jacks. It is immediately evident from that moment on that jumping jacks will be the kind of event you are perceiving which may explain the long delay in event pattern stabilisation. Then about 11.9s prior to the end of the event, when the person is still performing jumping jacks (at this point they have been performing jumping jacks for 6 seconds), I would expect the brain to still be expecting this " jumping jacks event". For some reason at this point multivariate patterns in higher order regions shift. I do not understand what kind of top down processing is happening here and the reviewers need to be more concrete in their explanation because as of right now it is ill-defined. I also recognize that being specific to jumping jacks is maybe unfair, but this would apply to the push-ups, granola bar eating, or table cleaning events in the same manner. I suspect one possibility is that the participants realize that the stereotyped action of jumping jacks is going to continue and, thus, mindwander to other thoughts while waiting for novel, informative information to be presented. This explanation would challenge the more active top down processing assumed by the authors.

I had provided a set of concerns to the authors that were not part of the public review and were not addressed. I was unaware of the exact format of the eLife approach, but I think they are worth open discussion so I am adding them here for consideration. Apologies for any confusion.

(2) Why did the authors not examine event boundary activity magnitude differences from the uncertainty vs error boundaries? I see that the authors have provided the data on the openneuro. However, it seems like the difference in activity maps would not only provide extra contextualization of the findings, but also be fairly trivial. Just by eye-balling the plots, it appears as though there may be activity differences in the mPFC occurring shortly after a boundary between the two. Given this regions role in prediction error and schema, it would be important to understand whether this difference is merely due to thresholding effects or is statistically meaningful.

(3) Further, the authors omitted all subcortical regions some of which would be especially interesting such as the hippocampus, basal ganglia, ventral tegmental area. These regions have a rich and deep background in event boundary activity, and prediction error. Univariate effects in these regions may provide interesting effects that might contextualize some of the pattern shifts in the cortex.

(3) I see that field maps were collected, but the fmriprep methods state that susceptibility distortion correction was not performed. Is there a reason to omit this?

(4) How many events were present in the stimuli?

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The aim of this study was to investigate the temporal progression of the neural response to event boundaries in relation to uncertainty and error. Specifically, the authors asked 1. How neural activity changes before and after event boundaries 2. If uncertainty and error both contribute to explaining the occurrence of event boundaries and 3. If uncertainty and error have unique contributions to explaining the temporal progression of neural activity.

Strengths:

One strength of this paper is that it builds on an already validated computational model. It relies on straightforward and interpretable analysis techniques to answer the main question, with a smart combination of pattern similarity metrics and FIR. This combination of methods may also be an inspiration to other researchers in the field working on similar questions. The paper is well written and easy to follow. The paper convincingly shows that 1. There is a temporal progression of neural activity change before and after an event boundary 2. Event boundaries are predicted best by the combination of uncertainty and error signals.

Weaknesses:

Regarding question 3, the results are less convincing. Although the analyses in Figure S1 show that there are some unique contributions of uncertainty and error, it is unclear to what extent the results in Figure 7 are driven by shared variance. Therefore, it is not clear to what extent the main claim in the abstract is due to shared or unique variance. More specific comments are provided below.

The other issue is the distance between events is short compared to the pre-onset effects that are observed. Halfway the distance between two events there are already neural signatures of change relating to the upcoming event boundary. I wonder if methodological issues could explain this effect and if not, what could allow participants to notice the impending event boundary.

Impact:

If these comments can be addressed sufficiently, I expect that this work will impact the field in its thinking on what drives event boundaries and spur interest in understanding the mechanisms behind the temporal progression of neural activity around these boundaries.

Comments

(1) The correlation between uncertainly and prediction error is very high, which makes it challenging to disentangle the effects of both on the neural response. The analysis in Figure S1 shows that the two predictors indeed have dissociable contributions. However, the results mainly reported in the discussion section and abstract still rely on models where only one of these factors is included at a time. This makes it debatable whether these specific networks mentioned really reflect unique contributions of each of these components. I specifically refer to this statement in the abstract: "Error-driven boundaries were associated with early pattern shifts in ventrolateral prefrontal areas, followed by pattern stabilization in prefrontal and temporal areas. Uncertainty-driven boundaries were linked to shifts in parietal regions within the dorsal attention network, with minimal subsequent stabilization. ". I would encourage repeating all analyses (also the ones in figure 7) with a models that includes both predictors and showing both results in the manuscript, so it is clear which regions really show unique variance related to one of the predictors. I also wonder why it is necessary to look at model comparisons between the combined and unique models, rather than simply reporting the significance of each predictor in the combined model.

(2) The distance between event boundaries ranges between 20 and 30 seconds. The early pre-boundary effect that are observed in the manuscript occur at -12 seconds. This means that these effects occur roughly halfway between the previous and current event. This seems much earlier than expected. That is why I worry that the FIR analyses might not be able to distinguish effects of the previous event from effects of the upcoming event. What evidence is there that the FIR analyses can actually properly show the return to baseline? One way to address this might be to randomize the locations of the event boundaries while preserving the distance between them and rerun the models. This will give a null-model with the same event distances and should be able to distinguish this temporal overlap from the true effects of event boundaries.

(3) If the analyses in point 2 confirm that there is indeed an event-boundary related change that occurs 12 seconds before event onset, it is important to consider what might cause these changes. Are there cues in the movie that indicate that an event boundary is coming? It would be interesting to investigate whether uncertainty and error are higher than expected at 12 seconds pre-onset.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript offers a careful and technically impressive dissection of how subpopulations within the subthalamic nucleus support reward‑biased decision‑making. The authors recorded from STN neurons in monkeys performing an asymmetric‑reward version of a visual motion discrimination task and combined single‑unit analyses, regression modeling, and drift‑diffusion framework fitting to reveal functionally distinct clusters of neurons. Each subpopulation demonstrated unique relationships to decision variables - such as the evidence‑accumulation rate, decision bound, and non‑decision processes - as well as to post‑decision evaluative signals like choice accuracy and reward expectation. Together, these findings expand our understanding of the computational diversity of STN activity during complex, multi‑attribute choices.

Strengths:

(1) The use of an asymmetric‑reward paradigm enables a clean separation between perceptual and reward influences, making it possible to identify how STN neurons blend these different sources of information.

(2) The dataset is extensive and well‑controlled, with careful alignment between behavioral and neural analyses.

(3) Relating neuronal cluster activity to drift‑diffusion model parameters provides an interpretable computational link between neural population signals and observed behavior.

(4) The clustering analyses, validated across multiple parameters and distance metrics, reveal robust functional subgroups within STN. The differentiation of clusters with respect to both evidence and reward coding is an important advance over treating the STN as a unitary structure.

(5) By linking neural activity to predicted choice accuracy and reward expectation, the study extends the discussion of the STN beyond decision formation to include outcome monitoring and post‑decision evaluation.

Weaknesses:

(1) The inferred relationships between neural clusters and specific drift‑diffusion parameters (e.g., bound height, scaling factor, non‑decision time) are intriguing but inherently correlational. The authors should clarify that these associations do not necessarily establish distinct computational mechanisms.

(2) While the k‑means approach is well described, it remains somewhat heuristic. Including additional cross‑validation (e.g., cluster reproducibility across monkeys or sessions) would strengthen confidence in the four‑cluster interpretation.

(3) The functional dissociations across clusters are clearly described, but how these subgroups interact within the STN or through downstream basal‑ganglia circuits remains speculative.

(4) A natural next step would be to construct a generative multi‑cluster model of STN activity, in which each cluster is treated as a computational node (e.g., evidence integrator, bound controller, urgency or evaluative signal).

(5) Such a low‑dimensional, coupled model could reproduce the observed diversity of firing patterns and predict how interactions among clusters shape decision variables and behavior.

(6) Population‑level modeling of this kind would move the interpretation beyond correlational mapping and serve as an intermediate framework between single‑unit analysis and in‑vivo perturbation.

(7) Causal inference gap - Without perturbation data, it is difficult to determine whether the identified neural modulations are necessary or sufficient for the observed behavioral effects. A brief discussion of this limitation - and how future causal manipulations could test these cluster functions - would be valuable.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This study uses monkey single-unit recordings to examine the role of the STN in combining noisy sensory information with reward bias during decision-making between saccade directions. Using multiple linear regressions and k-means clustering approaches, the authors overall show that a highly heterogeneous activity in the STN reflects almost all aspects of the task, including choice direction, stimulus coherence, reward context and expectation, choice evaluation, and their interactions. The authors report in particular how, here too, in a very heterogeneous way, four classes of neurons map to different decision processes evaluated via the fitting of a drift-diffusion model. Overall, the study provides evidence for functionally diverse populations of STN neurons, supporting multiple roles in perceptual and reward-based decision-making.

This study follows up on work conducted in previous years by the same team and complements it. Extracellular recordings in monkeys trained to perform a complex decision-making task remain a remarkable achievement, particularly in brain structures that are difficult to target, such as the subthalamic nucleus. The authors conducted numerous rigorous and systematic analyses of STN activities, using sophisticated statistical approaches and functional computational modeling.

One criticism I would make is that the authors sometimes seem to assume that readers are familiar with their previous work. Indeed, the motivation and choices behind some analyses are not clearly explained. It might be interesting to provide a little more context and insight into these methodological choices. The same is true for the description of certain results, such as the behavioral results, which I find insufficiently detailed, especially since the two animals do not perform exactly the same way in the task.

Another criticism is the difficulty in following and absorbing all the presented results, given their heterogeneity. This heterogeneity stems from analytical choices that include defining multiple time windows over which activities are studied, multiple task-related or monkey behavioral factors that can influence them, multiple parameters underlying the decision-making phenomena to be captured, and all this without any a priori hypotheses. The overall impression is of an exploratory description that is sometimes difficult to digest, from which it is hard to extract precise information beyond the very general message that multiple subpopulations of neurons exist and therefore that the STN is probably involved in multiple roles during decision-making.

It would also have been interesting to have information regarding the location of the different identified subpopulations of neurons in the STN and their level of segregation within this nucleus. Indeed, since the STN is one of the preferred targets of electrical stimulation aimed at improving the condition of patients suffering from various neurological disorders, it would be interesting to know whether a particular stimulation location could preferentially affect a specific subpopulation of neurons, with the associated specific behavioral consequences.

Therefore, this paper is interesting because it complements other work from the same team and other studies that demonstrate the likely important role of the STN in decision-making. This will be of interest to the decision-making neuroscience community, but it may leave a sense of incompleteness due to the difficulty in connecting the conclusions of these different studies. For example, in the discussion section, the authors attempt to relate the different neuronal populations identified in their study and describe some relatively consistent results, but others less so.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In this study, the authors investigate single neuron activity in the subthalamic nucleus (STN) of two monkeys performing a perceptual decision-making task in which both perceptual evidence and reward were manipulated. They find rich representations of decision variables (such as choice, perceptual evidence and reward) in neural activity, and following prior work, cluster a subset of these neurons into subpopulations with varying activity profiles. Further, they relate the activity of neurons within these clusters to parameters of drift diffusion models (DDMs) fit to animal behaviour on trial subsets by neural firing rates, finding heterogeneous and temporally varying relationships between different clusters and DDM parameters, suggesting that STN neurons may play multiple roles in decision formation and evaluation.

Strengths:

The behavioural task used by the authors is rich and affords disambiguation between decision variables such as perceptual evidence, value and choice, by independently manipulating stimulus strength and reward size. Both their monkeys show good performance on the task, and their population of ~150 neurons across monkeys reveals a rich repertoire of decision-related activity in single neurons, with individual neurons showing strong tuning to choice, stimulus strength and reward bias. There is little doubt that neurons in the STN are tuned to several decision variables and show heterogeneous tuning profiles.

Weaknesses:

The primary weakness of the paper lies in the claim that STN contains multiple sub-populations with distinct involvements in decision making, which is inadequately supported by the paper's methods and analyses.

First, while it is clear that the ~150 recorded neurons across 2 monkeys (91, 59 respectively) display substantial heterogeneity in their activity profiles across time and across stimulus/reward conditions, the claim of sub-populations largely rests on clustering a *subset of less than half the population - 66 neurons (48, 15 respectively) - chosen manually by visual inspection*. The full population seems to contain far more decision-modulated neurons, whose response profiles seem to interpolate between clusters. Moreover, it is unclear if the 4 clusters hold for each of the 2 monkeys, and the choice of 4-5 clusters does not seem well supported by metrics such as silhouette score, etc, that peak at 3 (1 or 2 were not attempted). From the data, it is easier to draw the conclusion that the STN population contains neurons with heterogeneous response profiles that smoothly vary in their tuning to different decision variables, rather than distinct sub-populations.

Second, assuming the existence of sub-populations, it is unclear how their time- and condition-varying relationship with DDM parameters is to be interpreted. These relationships are inferred by splitting trials based on individual neurons' firing rates in different task epochs and reward contexts, and regressing onto the parameters of separate DDMs fit to those subsets of trials. The result is that different sub-populations show heterogeneous relationships to different DDM parameters over time - a result that, while interesting, leaves the computational involvement of these sub-populations/implementation of the decision process unclear.

Outlook:

This is a paper with a rich dataset of neural activity in the STN in a rich perceptual decision-making task, and convincing evidence of heterogeneity in choice, value and evidence tuning across the STN, suggesting the STN may be involved in several aspects of decision-making. However, the authors' specific claims about sub-populations in the STN, each having distinct relationships to decision processes, are not adequately supported by their analyses.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

In this study, the authors took advantage of a powerful method (iEEG) in a large participant cohort (N=42) to demonstrate specific functional connectivity signatures associated with speech. The results highlight the complementary utility of functional connectivity analysis to the more traditional iEEG approaches of characterizing local neural activity.

Strengths:

This is an interesting study on the important topic of cortical mechanisms of speech perception and production in humans. The authors provide strong evidence for specific functional connectivity signatures of speech-related cortical activity.

Weaknesses:

A potential issue of the work is the interpretation of the five studied experimental conditions as representing distinct cognitive states, where "task conditions" or "behavioral states" would have been more appropriate.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study, conducted by Esmaeili and colleagues, investigates the functional connectivity signatures of different auditory, visual, and motor states in 42 ECoG patients. Patients performed three tasks: picture naming, visual word reading, and auditory word repetition. They use an SVM classifier on correlation patterns across electrodes during these tasks, separating speech production from sensory perception, and incorporating baseline silence as another state. They find that it is possible to classify five states (auditory perception, picture viewing, word reading, speech production, and baseline) based on their connectivity patterns alone. Furthermore, they find a sparser set of "discriminative connections" for each state that can be used to predict each of these states. They then relate these connectivity matrices to high-gamma evoked data, and show largely overlapping relationships between the discriminative connections and the active high-gamma electrodes. However, there are still some connectivity nodes that are important in discriminating states, but that do not show high evoked activity, and vice versa. Overall, the study has a large number of patients, and the ability to decode cognitive state is compelling. The main weaknesses of the work are in placing the findings into a wider context for what additional information the connectivity analysis provides about brain processing of speech, since, as it stands, the analysis mostly reidentifies areas already known to be important for speaking, listening, naming, and visual processing.

Strengths:

(1) The authors were able to assess their connectivity analysis on a large cohort of patients with wide coverage across speech and language areas.

(2) The use of controlled tasks for picture naming, visual word reading, and auditory word repetition allows for parcellating specific components of stimulus perception and speech production.

(3) The authors chose not to restrict their connectivity analysis to previously identified high amplitude responses, which allowed them to find regions that are discriminative between different states in their speech tasks, but not necessarily highly active.

Weaknesses:

(1) Although the work identifies some clear connectivity between brain areas during speech perception and production, it is not clear whether this approach allows us to learn anything new about brain systems for speech. The areas that are identified have been shown in other studies and are largely unsurprising - the auditory cortex is involved in hearing words, picture naming involves frontal and visual cortical interactions, and overt movements include the speech motor cortex. The temporal pole is a new area that shows up, but (see below) it is important to show that this region is not affected by artifacts. Overall, it would help if the authors could expand upon the novelty of their approach.

(2) Because the connectivity is derived from single trials, it is possible that some of the sparse connectivity seen in noncanonical areas is due to a common artifact across channels. The authors do employ a common average reference, which should help to reduce common-mode noise across all channels, but not smaller subsets. Could the authors include more information to show that this is not the case in their dataset? For example, the temporal pole electrodes show strong functional connectivity, but these areas can tend to include more EMG artifact or ocular artifact. Showing single-trial traces for some of these example pairs of electrodes and their FC measures could help in interpreting how robust the findings are.

(3) The connectivity matrices are defined by taking the correlation between all pairs of electrodes across 500-ms epochs for each cognitive state, presumably for electrodes that are time-aligned. However, it is likely that different areas will interact with different time delays - for example, activity in one area may lead to activity in another. It might be helpful to include some time lags between different brain areas if the authors are interested in dynamics between areas that are not simultaneous.

(4) In Figure 3, the baseline is most commonly confused with other categories (most notably, speech production, 22% of the time). Is there any intuition for why this might be? Could some of this confusion be due to task-irrelevant speech occurring during the baseline / have the authors verified that all pre-stimulus time periods were indeed silent?

(5) How similar are discriminative connections across participants? Do they tend to reflect the same sparse anatomical connections? It is not clear how similar the results are across participants.

(6) The results in Figure 5F are interesting and show that frontal electrodes are often highly functionally connected, but have low evoked activity. What do the authors believe this might reflect? What are these low-evoked activity electrodes potentially doing? Some (even speculative) mention might be helpful.

(7) One comparison that seems to be missing, if the authors would like to claim the utility of functional connectivity over evoked measures, is to directly compare a classifier based on the high gamma activity patterns alone, rather than the pairwise connectivity. Does the FC metric outperform simply using evoked activity?

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

I read this manuscript with great interest. The purpose of this paper is to use human intracranial recordings in patients undergoing routine epilepsy surgery evaluation to investigate speech production and perception during five specific and controlled tasks (auditory perception, picture perception, reading perception, speech production, and baseline). Linear classifiers were used to decode specific states with a mean accuracy of 64.4%. The interpretation of these findings is that the classifiers reveal distinct network signatures "underlying auditory and visual perception as well as speech production." Perhaps the most interesting finding is that the network signatures, including both regions with robust local neuronal activity and those without. Further, this study addresses an important gap by examining functional connectivity during overt speech production.

The abbreviation ECoG is used throughout the manuscript, and the methods state that grids and strips were placed, though many epilepsy centers now employ intracerebral recordings. Does this manuscript only include patients with surface electrodes? Or are depth electrodes also included? The rendering maps show only the cortical surface, but depth recordings could be very interesting, given that this is a connectivity analysis.

Also interesting, given both the picture and reading task, is whether there is coverage of the occipitotemporal sulcus?

A major strength of the chosen paradigm is the combination of both perception (auditory or visual) and production (speech). Have the authors considered oculomotor EMG artifacts that can be associated with the change in visual stimuli during the task (see Abel et al. for an example PMID: 27075536, but see also PMID: 19234780 and PMID: 20696256).

I'm very interested in the findings in Figure 4D, with regard to the temporal pole. I would recommend that the authors unpack what it means that the ratio of electrodes with the strongest connections is highest, but active and discriminative is perhaps the lowest. We (I think many groups!) are interested in this region as a multimodal hub that provides feedback in various contexts (like auditory or visual perception).

Given the varieties of tasks and the fact that electrodes are always placed based on clinical necessity, are there concerns about electrode sampling bias?

This manuscript makes an important contribution by demonstrating that functional connectivity analysis reveals task-specific network signatures beyond what is captured by local neuronal activity measures (LFP). The finding that low-activity regions are engaged in task-specific classifications has important implications for future human LFP connectivity work.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

In their study McDermott et al. investigate the neurocomputational mechanism underlying sensory prediction errors. They contrast two accounts: representational sharpening and dampening. Representational sharpening suggests that predictions increase the fidelity of the neural representations of expected inputs, while representational dampening suggests the opposite (decreased fidelity for expected stimuli). The authors performed decoding analyses on EEG data, showing that first expected stimuli could be better decoded (sharpening), followed by a reversal during later response windows where unexpected inputs could be better decoded (dampening). These results are interpreted in the context of opposing process theory (OPT), which suggests that such a reversal would support perception to be both veridical (i.e., initial sharpening to increase the accuracy of perception) and informative (i.e., later dampening to highlight surprising, but informative inputs).

Strengths:

The topic of the present study is of significant relevance for the field of predictive processing. The experimental paradigm used by McDermott et al. is well designed, allowing the authors to avoid common confounds in investigating predictions, such as stimulus familiarity and adaptation. The introduction provides a well written summary of the main arguments for the two accounts of interest (sharpening and dampening), as well as OPT. Overall, the manuscript serves as a good overview of the current state of the field.

Weaknesses:

In my opinion the study has a few weaknesses. Some method choices appear arbitrary (e.g., binning). Additionally, not all results are necessarily predicted by OPT. Finally, results are challenging to reconcile with previous studies. For example, while I agree with the authors that stimulus familiarity is a clear difference compared to previous designs, without a convincing explanation why this would produce the observed pattern of results, I find the account somewhat unsatisfying.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This study examines how luminescence can be used to measure bacterial population dynamics during antimicrobial treatment by comparing it directly with optical density and colony counts. The authors aim to determine when luminescence reflects changes in population size and when it instead captures metabolic or physiological states induced by drug exposure. By generating parallel datasets under controlled conditions, the work provides a detailed view of how these three common measurements relate to one another across a range of drug treatments.

Strengths:

The study is technically strong and thoughtfully designed. Measuring luminescence, optical density, and colony counts from the same cultures allows the authors to make clear and informative comparisons between methods. The data are compelling, and the analyses highlight both agreements and divergences in a way that is easy to interpret. The manuscript also succeeds in showing why these divergences arise. For example, the observation that filamentation and metabolic shifts can sustain luminescence even when colony counts drop provides valuable information on how different readouts capture distinct aspects of bacterial physiology. The writing is clear, the figures are effective, and the work will be useful for researchers who need high-throughput approaches to quantify microbial population dynamics experimentally.

Weaknesses:

The study also exposes some inherent limitations of luminescence-based measurements. Because luminescence depends on metabolic activity, it can remain high when cells are damaged or unable to resume growth, and it can fall quickly when drugs disrupt energy production, even if cells remain physically intact. These properties complicate interpretation in conditions that induce strong stress responses or heterogeneous survival states. In addition, the use of drug-free plates for colony counts may overestimate survival when filamented or stressed cells recover once the antibiotic is removed, making differences between luminescence and colony counts harder to attribute to killing alone. Finally, while the authors discuss luminescence in the context of clinically relevant concentration ranges, the current implementation relies on engineered laboratory strains and does not directly demonstrate applicability to clinical isolates. These limitations do not detract from the technical value of the work but should be kept in mind by readers who wish to apply the method more broadly.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This preprint proposes luxCDABE-based luminescence as a high-throughput alternative (or complement) to CFU time-kill assays for estimating antimicrobial rates of population change at super-MIC concentrations, by comparing luminescence- and CFU-derived rates across 20 antimicrobials (22 assays) and attributing divergences primarily to filamentation (luminescence closer to biomass/volume than cell number) and changes in culturability/carryover (CFU undercounting viable cells).

Strengths:

The authors do not merely report discrepancies; they experimentally validate the biological causes. Specifically, they successfully attribute the slower decline of luminescence in certain drugs to bacterial filamentation (maintaining biomass despite halted division) and the rapid decline of CFU in others to loss of culturability or carryover effects.

The inclusion of 20 antimicrobials spanning 11 classes provides a robust dataset that allows for broad categorization of drug-specific assay behaviors.

The study critically exposes flaws in the "gold standard" CFU method, specifically regarding antimicrobial carryover (demonstrated with pexiganan) and the potential for CFU to overestimate cell death in the presence of VBNC (viable but non-culturable) states induced by drugs like ciprofloxacin.

The use of chromosomal integration for the lux operon to minimize plasmid copy-number effects and the validation of linearity between light intensity and cell density establish a solid technical foundation.

Weaknesses:

The study is conducted exclusively using Escherichia coli. While E. coli is a standard model organism, the paper claims to evaluate luminescence as a generalizable high-throughput tool. Many of the discrepancies observed are driven by filamentation. However, distinct morphological responses occur in other critical pathogens (e.g., Staphylococcus aureus does not filament in the same way).

The authors propose that luminescence data can be corrected using microscopy-derived volume data to better align with CFU counts. The primary appeal of luminescence is high-throughput efficiency. If a researcher must perform time-lapse microscopy to calculate cell volume changes to "correct" their luminescence data, the high-throughput advantage is lost.

The paper argues that for ciprofloxacin, CFU underestimates viability because cells remain intact and impermeable to propidium iodide. While the cells are metabolically active and membrane-intact, if they cannot divide to form a colony (even after drug removal/dilution), their clinical relevance as "living" pathogens is debatable.

Some other comments:

The use of a population dynamical model to simulate filamentation effects is excellent. The finding that light intensity tracks volume ($\psi_V$) better than cell number ($\psi_B$) is a key theoretical contribution.

The model assumes linear elongation. The authors should briefly comment on whether this holds true for the specific drug mechanisms tested (e.g., PBP inhibition vs. DNA gyrase inhibition).

The use of bootstrapping to estimate rate distributions is appropriate and robust.

Conclusion:

Muetter et al. provide a compelling argument that luminescence is a reliable, high-throughput alternative to CFU for super-MIC investigations, particularly when the quantity of interest is biomass. The paper effectively warns researchers that discrepancies between CFU and luminescence are often biological (filamentation, VBNC) rather than methodological failures.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The authors sought to investigate the role of adaptation in supporting object recognition. In particular, the extent to which adaptation to noise improves subsequent recognition of objects embedded in the same or similar noise, and how this interacts with target contrast. The authors approach this question using a combination of psychophysics, electroencephalography, and deep neural networks. They find better behavioural performance and multivariate decoding of stimuli preceded by noise, suggesting a beneficial effect of adaptation to noise. The neural network analysis seeks to provide a deeper explanation of the results by comparing how well different adaptation mechanisms capture the empirical behavioural results. The results show that models incorporating intrinsic adaptation mechanisms, such as additive suppression and divisive normalisation, capture the behavioural results better than those that incorporate recurrent interactions. The study has the potential to provide interesting insights into adaptation, but there are alternative (arguably more parsimonious) explanations for the results that have not been refuted (or even recognised) in the manuscript. If these confounds can be compellingly addressed, then I expect the results would be of interest to a broad range of readers.

The study uses a multi-modal approach, which provides a rich characterisation of the phenomenon. The methods are described clearly, and the accompanying code and data are made publicly available. The comparison between univariate and multivariate analyses is interesting, and the application of neural networks to distinguish between different models of adaptation seems quite promising.

There are several concerning confounding factors that need to be addressed before the results can be meaningfully interpreted. In particular, differences in behavioural accuracy may be explained by a simple change detection mechanism in the "same noise" condition, and temporal cuing by the "adaptor" stimulus may explain differences in reaction time. Similarly, interference between event-related potentials may explain the univariate EEG results, and biased decoder training may explain the multivariate results. Thus, it is currently unclear if any of the results reflect adaptation.

My main concerns relate to how adaptation is induced and how differences between conditions are interpreted. The adaptation period is only 1.5 s. Although brief adaptors (~1 s) can produce stimulus history effects, it is unclear whether these reflect the same mechanisms as those observed with standard, longer adaptation durations (e.g., 10-30 s). Prior EEG work on visual adaptation using longer adaptors has shown that feature-specific effects emerge very early (<100 ms) after test onset in both univariate and multivariate responses (Rideaux et al., 2023, PNAS). In contrast, the present study finds no difference between same and different adaptor conditions until much later (>300 ms). These later effects likely reflect cognitive processes such as template matching or decision-making, rather than sensory adaptation. Although early differences appear between blank and adaptor conditions, these could be explained by interactions between ERPs elicited by adaptor onset/offset and those elicited by the test stimulus; therefore, they cannot be attributed to adaptation. This contradicts the statement in the Discussion that "Our EEG measurements show clear evidence of repetition suppression, in the form of reduced responses to the repeated noise pattern early in time."

A second concern is the brief inter-stimulus interval. The adaptor is shown for 1.5 s, followed by only a 134 ms blank before the target. When the "adaptor" and test noise are identical, improved performance could simply arise from detecting the pixels that change, namely, those forming the target number. Such change detection does not require adaptation; even simple motion detector units would suffice. If the blank period were longer-beyond the temporal window of motion detectors-then improved performance would more convincingly reflect adaptation. Given the very short blank, however, a more parsimonious explanation for the behavioural effect in the same-noise condition is that change detection mechanisms isolate the target.

Differences between the blank and adaptor conditions may also be explained by temporal cueing. In the noise conditions, the noise reliably signals the upcoming target time, whereas the blank condition provides no such cue. Given the variable inter-trial interval and the brief target presentation, this temporal cue would strongly facilitate target perception. This account is consistent with the reaction time results: both adaptor conditions produce faster reaction times than the blank condition, but do not differ from each other.

The decoding analyses are also difficult to interpret, given the training-testing protocol. All trials from the three main conditions (blank, same, different) were used to train the classifier, and then held-out trials - all from one condition-were decoded. Because ERPs in the adaptor conditions differ substantially from those in the blank condition, and because there are twice as many adaptor trials, the classifier is biased toward patterns from the adaptor conditions and will naturally perform worse on blank trials. To compare decoding accuracy meaningfully across conditions, the classifier should be trained on a separate unbiased dataset (e.g., the "clean" data), or each condition should be trained and tested separately using cross-fold validation.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Neurons adapt to prolonged or repeated sensory inputs. One function of such adaptation may be to save resources to avoid representing the same inputs over and over again. However, it has been hypothesized that adaptation could additionally help improve the representation of sensory stimuli, especially during difficult recognition scenarios. This study sheds light on this question and provides behavioral evidence for such enhancement. The behavioral results are interesting and compelling. The paper also includes scalp electroencephalographic (EEG) data, which are noisy but point toward similar conclusions. The authors finally implement a deep convolutional neural network (DCNN) with adaptation mechanisms, which nicely capture human behavior.

Strengths:

(1) The authors introduce an interesting hypothesis about the role of adaptation in visual recognition.

(2) The authors present interesting and compelling behavioral data consistent with the hypothesis.

(3) The authors introduce a computational model that can capture mechanisms that can lead to adaptation, enhancing visual recognition.

Weaknesses:

(1) The main weakness is the scalp EEG data. As detailed below, the results are minimal at best and do not contribute to understanding the mechanisms of adaptation. The paper would be stronger without the EEG data.

(2) I wonder whether the hypothesis also holds with real-world objects in natural scenes, beyond the confines of MNIST digits.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

Brands and colleagues investigate how temporal adaptation can aid object recognition, and what neural computations may underlie these effects. They employed a previously published experimental paradigm to study how adaptation to temporally constant distractor input facilitates the recognition of a newly appearing target object. Specifically, they studied how this effect is modulated by the contrast of the target object.

They found that adaptation enhances the recognition of high-contrast objects more than that of low-contrast objects. This behavioral effect was mirrored by a larger effect of adaptation on the response to the high-contrast objects in relatively higher visual areas.

To investigate what neural computations can support this interaction, they implement several candidate neural mechanisms in a deep convolutional neural network: additive suppression, divisive suppression, and lateral recurrence. The authors conclude that divisive and additive suppression, which are intrinsic to the neuron, best explain the interaction between contrast and adaptation in the human data. They further show that these mechanisms, and divisive suppression in particular, show increased robustness to spatial shifts of the adaptor stimulus, hinting and potential perceptual benefits.

Strengths:

(1) Overall, this is a well-written paper, supported by thorough analyses and illustrated with clear, well-designed figures that effectively show overall trends as well as data variance. The authors tell a compelling story while responsibly steering away from overreaching conclusions.

(2) What makes this paper stand out is its comprehensive approach to understanding the behavioral benefit of neural adaptation and its mechanistic underpinnings. The authors effectively achieve this through integrating new behavioral and neural data with simulations using neural network models.

(3) The findings convincingly demonstrate that neuronally intrinsic adaptation mechanisms are sufficient to explain the observed interaction between temporal adaptation, contrast, and object recognition. Furthermore, the paper highlights that these intrinsic mechanisms offer superior robustness compared to learned lateral recurrence mechanisms, which, while being more expressive, can also be more brittle.

Weaknesses:

While the results and conclusion are well supported, there were a few major points that need clarification for me.

(1) Divisive normalization

I was confused by the author's classification of divisive normalization as a neuronally intrinsic mechanism, that is, one that operates within a single neuron, independent of interactions with other neurons.

My understanding is that divisive normalization, as originally proposed by Heeger in the early nineties, describes a mechanism where neurons integrate pooled activity from neighboring cells to mutually inhibit one another. In this form, divisive normalization is fundamentally an interneuronal mechanism involving recurrence. Adding to the confusion, the authors highlight in the introduction their interest in divisive normalization for its relation to stimulus contrast, a relation likely linked to neuronal pooling.

However, my reading of the methods section (Equations 6 and 7) suggests the authors implemented only a temporal feedback component, leaving out the pooling across neurons (Equation 5). This distinction should be disambiguated early in the paper. I recommend choosing a less ambiguous term than "divisive normalization". Even "temporal divisive normalization" is still ambiguous, as lateral neuronal interactions are also inherently temporal.

(2) Parietal electrodes

The paper's adapter-specific effects are centered around the P9/P10 electrodes, which the authors identify as "parietal." However, it is unclear to me which part of the cortex drives these electrodes, particularly whether it is actually the parietal cortex. I am no expert in EEG, but based on the topomaps in Figures 4 and 5, it appears that these electrodes cover more posterior occipito-temporal regions rather than truly parietal regions. Given the central role of P9/P10 to the main findings, the paper would be significantly improved for non-EEG readers by clarifying which cortical regions are covered by these electrodes.

(3) Interpretation of non-significant statistical results

In some places, the authors attach relatively strong claims to non-significant statistical results. For example, in Figure 5D, they claim that there is no effect of contrast on occipital electrodes, based on a non-significant p-value. P-values do not quantify evidence for the null hypothesis, so the authors should be careful with such claims. In fact, Figure 5D shows such a clear negative slope, with variance comparable to Figure 5A, that I am surprised that the p-value for the slope of Figure 5D was in fact so large. A similar issue arises in the discussion for Figure 6, where the authors claim that the effect of contrast is adapter-specific. However, this claim is based on the observation that is significant for same-noise trials, but not for different-noise or blank trials. To statistically substantiate the claims that there is an adapter-specific effect, the authors should directly compare the slope for same-noise trials with the slope for different-noise/blank trials.

(4) The match between behavior and models

The authors' claim that models with intrinsic adaptation better match the interaction between contrast and temporal adaptation observed in human behavior is not fully substantiated. This conclusion appears to be based on a qualitative assessment of Figure 8, which, in my view, does not unambiguously rule out an interaction for lateral recurrence. Furthermore, a potential confounding factor is the ceiling effect that limits higher accuracy values. Indeed, conditions where the interaction was not/less (i.e., shorter time sequences and lateral inhibition) are also the conditions where accuracy values are closer to this ceiling, which may mask a potential interaction.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Extracellular electrophysiology datasets are growing in both number and size, and recordings with thousands of sites per animal are now commonplace. Analyzing these datasets to extract the activity of single neurons (spike sorting) is challenging: signal-to-noise is low, the analysis is computationally expensive, and small changes in analysis parameters and code can alter the output. The authors address the problem of volume by packaging the well-characterized SpikeInterface pipeline in a framework that can distribute individual sorting jobs across many workers in a compute cluster or cloud environment. Reproducibility is ensured by running containerized versions of the processing components.

The authors apply the pipeline in two important examples. The first is a thorough study comparing the performance of two widely used spike-sorting algorithms (Kilosort 2.5 and Kilosort 4). They use hybrid datasets created by injecting measured spike waveforms (templates) into existing recordings, adjusting those waveforms according to the measured drift in the recording. These hybrid ground truth datasets preserve the complex noise and background of the original recording. Similar to the original Kilosort 4 paper, which uses a different method for creating ground truth datasets that include drift, the authors find Kilosort 4 significantly outperforms Kilosort 2.5. The second example measures the impact of compression of raw data on spike sorting with Kilosort 4, showing that accuracy, precision, and recall of the ground truth units are not significantly impacted even by lossy compression. As important as the individual results, these studies provide good models for measuring the impact of particular processing steps on the output of spike sorting.

Strengths:

The pipeline uses the Nextflow framework, which makes it adaptable to different job schedulers and environments. The high-level documentation is useful, and the GitHub code is well organized. The two example studies are thorough and well-designed, and address important questions in the analysis of extracellular electrophysiology data.

Weaknesses:

The pipeline is very complete, but also complex. Workflows - the optimal artifact removal, best curation for data from a particular brain area or species - will vary according to experiment. Therefore, a discussion of the adaptability of the pipeline in the "Limitations" section would be helpful for readers.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This work presents a reproducible, scalable workflow for spike sorting that leverages parallelization to handle large neural recording datasets. The authors introduce both a processing pipeline and a benchmarking framework that can run across different computing environments (workstations, HPC clusters, cloud). Key findings include demonstrating that Kilosort4 outperforms Kilosort2.5 and that 7× lossy compression has minimal impact on spike sorting performance while substantially reducing storage costs.

Strengths:

(1) Extremely high-quality figures with clear captions that effectively communicate complex workflow information.

(2) Very detailed, well-written methods section providing thorough documentation.

(3) Strong focus on reproducibility, scalability, modularity, and portability using established technologies (Nextflow, SpikeInterface, Code Ocean).

(4) Pipeline publicly available on GitHub with documentation.

(5) Clear cost analysis showing ~$5/hour for AWS processing with transparent breakdown.

(6) Good overview of previous spike sorting benchmarking attempts in the introduction.

(7) Practical value for the community by lowering barriers to processing large datasets.

Weaknesses:

No significant weaknesses were identified, although it is noted that the limitations section of the discussion could be expanded.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors provide a highly valuable and thoroughly documented pipeline to accelerate the processing and spike sorting of high-density electrophysiology data, particularly from Neuropixels probes. The scale of data collection is increasing across the field, and processing times and data storage are growing concerns. This pipeline provides parallelization and benchmarking of performance after data compression that helps address these concerns. The authors also use their pipeline to benchmark different spike sorting algorithms, providing useful evidence that Kilosort4 performs the best out of the tested options. This work, and the ability to implement this pipeline with minimal effort to standardize and speed up data processing across the field, will be of great interest to many researchers in systems neuroscience.

Strengths:

The paper is very well written and clear in most places. The accompanying GitHub and ReadTheDocs are well organized and thorough. The authors provide many benchmarking metrics to support their claims, and it is clear that the pipeline has been very thoroughly tested and optimized by users at the Allen Institute for Neural Dynamics. The pipeline incorporates existing software and platforms that have also been thoroughly tested (such as SpikeInterface), so the authors are not reinventing the wheel, but rather putting together the best of many worlds. This is a great contribution to the field, and it is clear that the authors have put a lot of thought into making the pipeline as accessible as possible.

Weaknesses:

There are no major weaknesses. I have only a handful of very minor questions and suggestions that could clarify/generalize aspects of the pipeline or make the text more understandable to non-specialists.

(1) Could the authors please expand on the statement on line 274, that processing their test dataset serially "on a single GPU-capable cloud workstation... would take approximately 75 hours and cost over 90 USD." How were these values calculated? I was a bit surprised that this is a >4-fold slow-down from their pipeline, but only increases the cost by ~1.35x, if I understood correctly. More context on why this is, and maybe some context on what a g4dn.4xlarge is compared to the other instances, might help readers who are less familiar with AWS and cloud computing.

(2) One of the most commonly used preprocessing pipelines for Neuropixels data is the CatGT/ecephys pipeline from the developers of SpikeGLX at Janelia. It may be worth commenting very briefly, either in the preprocessing section or in the discussion, on how the preprocessing steps available in this pipeline compare to the steps available in CatGT. For example, is "destriping" similar to the "-gfix" option in catGT to remove high-amplitude artifacts?

(3) Why are there duplicate units (line 194), and how often is this an issue? I understand that this is likely more of a spike sorter issue than an issue with this pipeline, but 1-2 sentences elaborating why might be helpful for readers.

(4) It seems from the parameter files on GitHub that the cluster curation parameters are customizable - correct? If so, it may be worth explicitly saying so in the curation section of the text, as the presented recipe will not always be appropriate. A presence ratio of >0.8 could be particularly problematic for some recordings, for example, if a cell is only active during a specific part of the behavior, that may be a feature of the experiment, or the animal could be transitioning between sleep and wake states, in which different units may become active at different times.

(5) The axis labels in Figures 3d-e are too small to see, and Figure 3d would benefit from a brief description of what is shown.

(6) What is the difference between "neural" and "passing QC" in Figure 4?

(7) I understand the current paper is focused on spike data, so there may not be an answer to this, but I am curious about the NP2.0 probes that save data in wideband. Does the lossy compression negatively affect the LFP data? Is software filtering applied for the spike band before or after compression?

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

In this work, the authors provide a comprehensive investigation of antagonistic dynamics across large-scale brain networks. They characterize this phenomenon at the global (regional dynamics) and local (multivariate patterns of voxels within regions) levels.

Furthermore, as opposed to studying these dynamics under resting-state or explicit task conditions, the authors make use of naturalistic narratives, both auditory and visual.

Perhaps most importantly, this work provides evidence that event boundaries in narratives drive sensory responses, which, in turn, predict anticorrelated activity in task-positive networks and the default mode network. These findings open up new questions regarding the interaction across perceptual systems and these higher-order dynamics in association networks.

This work is methodologically solid and presents compelling findings that will surely invite new approaches and questions in this area.

Importantly, these data do not speak to the order or causal structure of these interactions. Time-resolved methods and direct causal interventions will be needed to understand how these interactions drive one another more precisely.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

This manuscript presents an impressive and novel investigation of organizational principles governing brain activity at both global and local scales during naturalistic viewing paradigms. The proposed multi-scale nested structure offers valuable new insights into functional brain states and their dynamics. Importantly, investigation of global brain states in the context of a naturalistic viewing context represents an important and timely contribution that addresses unresolved issues about global signals and anticorrelations in resting-state fMRI. This manuscript presents a novel investigation of organizational principles governing brain activity at both global and local scales during naturalistic viewing paradigms. The authors demonstrate that brain activity during naturalistic viewing is dominated by two anti-correlated states that toggle between each other with a third transitional state mediating between them. The successful replication across three independent datasets (StudyForrest, NarrattenTion, and CamCAN) is a particular strength. The successful replication across three independent datasets (StudyForrest, NarrattenTion, and CamCAN) is a particular strength, and I appreciate the authors' careful documentation of both convergent and divergent findings across these samples.

Overall, this manuscript makes important contributions to our understanding of large-scale brain organization during naturalistic cognition. The multi-scale framework and robust replication across datasets are notable strengths. Addressing the concerns raised below will substantially strengthen the impact and interpretability of this work.

(1) Network Definition and Specificity

(a) The authors adopt an overly broad characterization of the Default Mode Network (DMN). The statement that "areas most active in the default mode state... consist of the precuneus, angular gyrus, large parts of the superior and middle temporal cortex, large parts of the somatomotor areas, frontal operculi, insula, parts of the prefrontal cortex and limbic areas" includes regions typically assigned to other networks. The insula is canonically considered a core node of the Salience Network/Ventral Attention Network (VAN), not the DMN. Also, not clear which limbic areas? The DMN findings reported need to be critically reassessed in this context.

(b) Given the proposed role of state switching in your framework, a detailed analysis of salience network nodes (particularly insula and dorsal ACC) would be highly informative.

(c) While you report transition-related signals in the visual and auditory cortex, the involvement of insular and frontal control systems in state transitions remains unaddressed.

(d) My recommendation is to provide a more anatomically precise characterization of network involvement, particularly distinguishing DMN from salience/VAN regions, and analyze the specific role of salience network nodes in mediating state transitions.

(2) Distinguishing Top-Down from Stimulus-Driven Effects

(a) The finding that "the superior parietal lobe (SPL) and the frontal eye fields (FEF) show the greatest overlap between their local ROI state switches and the global state switches" raises an important question: To what extent are these effects driven by overt changes in visual gaze or attention shifts triggered by stimulus features versus internally-generated state changes?

(b) Similarly, the observation that DAN areas show the highest overlap with global state changes in StudyForrest and NarrattenTion, while VAN shows the highest overlap in CamCAN, lacks sufficient anatomical detail regarding which specific nodes are involved. This information would help clarify whether insular regions and other VAN components play distinct roles in state switching.

(c) It will be important to (i) discuss potential confounds from eye movements and stimulus-driven attention shifts; (ii) provide detailed anatomical breakdowns of network nodes involved in state transitions, particularly for VAN; (iii) if eye-tracking data or any other relevant stimulus-related data are available, include analyses examining relationships between these measures and state transitions.

(3) Physiological Interpretation of the "Down" State

The linkage between the "Down" state and the Default Mode State (DMS) is intriguing but requires deeper physiological grounding. Recent work by Epp et al. (Nature Neuroscience, 2025) demonstrates that decreased BOLD signal in DMN regions does not necessarily indicate reduced metabolic activity and can reflect neurovascular coupling modes with specific metabolic profiles. It would be useful to discuss whether your "Down" state might represent a particular neurovascular coupling mode with distinct metabolic demands rather than simply reduced neural activity. Alternatively, your analytical approach might be insensitive to or unconfounded by such neurovascular uncoupling. This discussion would substantially enrich the biological interpretation of the DMS versus TPS dual mechanism framework.

(4) Statistical Validation of Bimodality Detection

The method of selecting bimodal timepoints using the Dip test followed by sign-alignment is novel and creative. However, this filter-then-align procedure could potentially introduce circularity by imposing the anticorrelated structure the authors aim to detect. It would be important to implement validation analyses to confirm that anticorrelation is an intrinsic property rather than a methodological artifact. Approaches include leave-one-subject-out cross-validation, unsupervised dimensionality reduction (e.g., PCA) applied independently to verify the anticorrelated structure, and split-half reliability analysis. Such validation would significantly strengthen the statistical foundation of findings.

(5) Quantifying Hyperalignment Contribution

The appendix notes that non-hyperaligned data show a coarser structure, but the specific contribution of hyperalignment to your findings requires more thorough quantification. Please provide a systematic comparison of results with and without hyperalignment, demonstrating that similar (even if weaker) anatomical correspondence exists in native subject space. This would establish that the mesoscale organizational principles you identify are not artifacts of the alignment procedure but reflect genuine neurobiological organization. Consider presenting correlation coefficients or overlap metrics quantifying the similarity of state structures before and after hyperalignment.

(6) Functional Characterization of the Unimodal State

The observation that the brain spends approximately 34% of its time in a "Unimodal State" is presented primarily as a transition period. This is an interesting observation. However, it would be useful to characterize the functional connectivity profile of the unimodal state. Specifically, investigate whether it represents a distinct functional state with its own characteristic connectivity pattern. More detailed analysis would provide a more complete picture of temporal brain dynamics during naturalistic viewing and could yield new perspectives on how the brain reorganizes between stable states.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Renard, Ukrow et al. applied their recently published computational pipeline (CHROMAS) to the skin of Euprymna berryi and Sepia officinalis to track the dynamics of cephalopod chromatophore expansion. By segmenting each chromatophore into radial slices and analyzing the co-expansion of slices across regions of the skin, they inferred the motor control underlying chromatophore groups.

Strengths:

The authors demonstrate that most motor units of cephalopod skin include a subregion of multiple chromatophores, creating "virtual chromatophores" in between the fixed chromatophores. This is an interesting concept that challenges prevailing models of chromatophore organization, and raises interesting possibilities for how chromatophore arrays may be patterned during development.

This study introduces new analyses of cephalopod skin that will be valuable for the quantitative study of cephalopod behavior.

Weaknesses:

The authors chose to image spontaneous skin changes in sedated animals, rather than visually-evoked skin changes in awake, freely-moving animals. Spontaneous chromatophore changes tend to be small shimmers of expansion and contraction, rather than obvious, sizable expansions. This may make it more challenging to distinguish truly co-occurring expansions from background activity. The authors don't provide any raw data (videos) of the skin, so it is difficult to independently assess the robustness of the inferred chromatophore groupings.

The patch-clamp experiments in E. berryi are used to test the validity of their approach for inferring motor units. The stimulations evoke expansions of sub-regions of each chromatophore, creating "virtual chromatophores" as predicted from the behavioral analysis. However, the authors were not able to predict these specific motor units from behavioral analysis before confirming them with patch-clamp, limiting the strength of the validation. It would be informative to quantify the results of the patch-clamp experiments - are the inferred motor units of similar sizes to those predicted from behavior?

The authors report testing multiple experimental conditions (e.g., age, size, behavioral stimuli, sedation, head-fixation, and lighting), but only a small subset of these data are presented. It is difficult to determine which conditions were used for which experiments, and the manuscript would benefit from pooling data from multiple experiments to draw general conclusions about the motor control of cephalopod skin.

The authors use a different clustering algorithm for E. berryi and S. officinalis, but do not discuss why different clustering approaches were required for the two species.

Impact:

The authors use their computational pipeline to generate a number of interesting predictions about chromatophore control, including motor unit size, their spatial distribution within the skin, and the independent control of subregions within individual chromatophores by putatively distinct motor neurons. While these observations are interesting, the current data do not yet fully support them.

The CHROMAS tool is likely to be valuable to the field, given the need for quantitative frameworks in cephalopod biology. The predictions outlined here provide a useful foundation for future experimental investigation.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Overall, this is an excellent paper, making use of a newly developed system for monitoring the behaviour of chromatophores in the skin of (mostly) free-swimming bobtail squid and European cuttlefish. The manuscript is very well-written, clearly presented and very well-structured. The central finding, that individual chromatophores are connected to multiple motor neurones, is not new. Novelty instead comes from the ability to measure the actuation of chromatophore sections across wide areas of skin in free-swimming animals, showing the diversity of local motor units and reinforcing the notion that individual chromatophores are not necessarily the individual units of colour change, but rather local motor units that cover multiple neighbour and near-neighbour chromatophore muscles. This is an excellent finding and one that will shape our understanding of the neural control of cephalopod skin colour.

Strengths:

The methodological approach to collecting large amounts of data about local variations in the expansion of sections of chromatophores is exciting, and the analysis pipeline for clustering sections of chromatophores whose spontaneous activity correlated over time is powerful and exciting.

Weaknesses:

Some minor edits and typographical errors need correcting. I also had some concerns that the preparation for the electrophysiological section of the manuscript complies with the journal's ethical requirements, so I would urge that this be carefully checked.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This study uses high-resolution videography and a custom computer-vision pipeline to dissect the motor control of cephalopod chromatophores in Euprymna berryi and Sepia officinalis. By quantifying anisotropic chromatophore deformations and applying dimensionality reduction methods, the authors infer that individual chromatophores can be a part of multiple motor units. Clustering analyses reveal putative motor units that often span multiple chromatophores, with diverse and overlapping geometries. Chromatophore expansion dynamics are faster and more stereotyped than relaxation, consistent with active neural contraction followed by passive recoil. Together, the results show that chromatophores function not as uniform pixels but as fractionated, coordinately controlled elements that enable flexible pattern generation

Strengths:

The authors present compelling, direct evidence that a). chromatophore deformations are anisotropic, and indirect evidence that b) individual chromatophores can be split across multiple putative motor units. This evidence is provided through data collected over large spatial scales, but also at a sub-chromatophore resolution. This combination of scale and resolution is not possible using traditional neuroanatomical and physiological approaches alone.

The authors also develop a new non-invasive, image analysis approach to extract information about chromatophore deformation across large spatial scales on the organism's body. In principle, this approach is applicable across species and may allow for further comparative characterization of chromatophore motor control. It is therefore a promising new tool and useful resource for the community.

Weaknesses:

An important weakness of the work is that the methods the authors develop can only be applied during resting, spontaneous 'flickering' activity of chromatophores. The inability to reliably apply their technique during any kind of realistic camouflage is a large limitation, as it means this method cannot be used to study the dynamics of motor control during realistic camouflage behaviors.

Another weakness of this paper is the rather limited electrophysiological validation of the computational findings. The authors present only one electrophysiology experiment in E. berryi, the species that they used only for 'methodological development' and not for detailed characterization. A complementary electrophysiological experiment in S. officinalis, or some visualization of neuron morphology confirming that motor neurons do indeed project to multiple chromatophores, would strengthen the generalizability of their computational analysis. This would be particularly pertinent to validate the author's claim that some motor units contain chromatophores that are quite distant from one another on the animal.

Overall, the authors' technical contributions and method development are an important advance. This work serves as an excellent proof of concept that their method can extract useful information about chromatophore motor control. Further validation of their method is needed to fully trust the fine-scale conclusions drawn about the distribution and composition of multi-innervated chromatophores. Furthermore, the authors raise many interesting ideas about developmental constraints on circuit wiring and potential adaptive significance of multi-innervated chromatophores for certain features of camouflage patterning. Their method may be able to help resolve some of these questions in the future if it is refined and applied across developmental stages, regions of the animal, and across species

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The manuscript by Griciunaite et al. explores jam2b functions in the formation of late vascular precursors in what is termed the secondary heart field. The authors nicely show that expression of jam2b defines these cells in the lateral plate mesoderm and the intestinal vasculature using a target integration of Gal4 into the jam2b locus. This analysis is followed by using a UAS:cre approach to follow the lineage of jam2b expressing cells, demonstrating their contributions to the vasculature during a second round of specification of vascular precursors. This is confirmed with single-cell analysis of jam2b-gal4 expressing cells. The authors then explore the genetic requirements of jam2a and b in zebrafish and also show that hand2 functions in the secondary heart field upstream of jam2b.

Overall, the experimental evidence and results support the major conclusions. The study elucidates a novel role for jam2 in the specification of vascular precursors at later stages of development.

This understanding has important implications for treating vascular disease and regenerative therapies. The manuscript is very clearly written, and the major conclusions are likely to have a lasting impact on the field.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Griciunaite et al. report on the function of jam2b and hand2 in the formation of the intestinal vasculature derived from late-forming endothelial cells (ECs) within the secondary vascular field (SVF). They generate transgenic lines that allow for the tracking of jam2b-expressing cells, both with fluorescent proteins and through Cre-mediated recombination in reporter lines. They also show that double maternal zygotic mutants in jam2a and jam2b, as well as hand2 mutants, display defects in the formation of the intestinal vasculature.

Strengths:

The results are interesting, as they address the important question of how blood vessels form during later developmental time points and potentially identify specific genes regulating this process.

Weaknesses:

(1) The authors generate a new tool, a Gal4 knock-in of the jam2b locus, to track EGFP-expressing cells over time and follow the developmental trajectory of jam2b-expressing cells. Figure 1 characterizes the line. However, it lacks quantification, e.g., how many etv2-expressing cells also show EGFP expression or the contribution of EGFP-expressing cells to different types of blood vessels. This type of quantification would be useful, as it would also allow for comparison of their findings to their previous data examining the contribution of SVF cells to different types of blood vessels. All the authors state that at 30 hpf, EGFP-expressing cells can be seen in the vasculature (apparently the PCV).

It is not clear why the authors do not use a nuclear marker for both ECs (as they did in their previous publication) and for jam2b-expressing cells. UAS:nEGFP and UAS:NLS-mcherry (e.g. pt424tg) transgenic lines are available. This would circumvent the problem the authors encounter with the strong fluorescence visible in the yolk extension. It would also facilitate quantifying the contribution of jam2b cells to different types of blood vessels.

(2) The time-lapse movie in Figure 2 is not very informative, as it just provides a single example of a dividing cell contributing to the PCV. Also, quantifications are needed. As SVF cells appear to expand significantly after their initial specification, it would be informative to know how many cell divisions and which types of blood vessels jam2b-expressing cells contribute to. Can the authors observe cells that give rise to different types of blood vessels? Jam2b expression in LPM cells apparently precedes expression of etv2. Is etv2 needed for maintenance, or do Jam2b-expressing cells contribute to different types of tissues in etv2 mutant embryos? Comparing time-lapse analysis in wildtype and etv2 mutant embryos would address this question.

(3) In Figure 3, the authors generate UAS:Cre and UAS:Cre-ERT2 transgenic lines to lineage trace the jam2b-expressing cells. It is again not clear why the authors do not use a responder line containing nuclear-localized fluorescent proteins to circumvent the strong expression of fluorescent proteins in the yolk extension. It is also unclear why the two transgenic lines give very different results regarding the number of cells being labelled. The ERT2 fusions label around 3 cells in the SIA, while the Cre line labels only about 1.5 cells per embryo, with very little contribution of labelled cells to other blood vessels. One would expect the Cre line requiring tamoxifen induction to label fewer cells when compared to the constitutive Cre line. What is the reason for this discrepancy? Are the lines single integration? Is there silencing? This needs to be better characterized, also regarding the reproducibility of the experiments. If the Cre lines were to be multiple copy integrations, outcrossing the line might lead to lower expression levels in future generations.

It is also not clear how the authors conclude from these findings that "SVF cells show major contribution to the SIA and SIV" when only 1.5 or 3 cells of the SIA are labelled, with even fewer cells labelled in other blood vessels. They speculate that this might be due to low recombination efficiency, a question they then set out to answer using photoconversion of etv2:KAEDE expressing cells, an experiment that they also performed in their 2014 and 2022 publications. To check for low recombination efficiency, the authors could examine the expression of Cre mRNA in their transgenic embryos. Do many more jam2b expressing cells express Cre mRNA than they observe in their switch lines? They could also compare their experiments using Cre recombinase with those using EGFP expression in jam2b cells. EGFP is relatively stable, and the time frames the authors analyze are short. As no quantification of EGFP-expressing cells is provided in Figure 1, this comparison is currently not possible. Do these two different approaches answer different questions here?

(4) Concerning the etv2:KAEDE photoconversion experiments: The percentages the authors report for SVF cells' contribution to the SIV and SIA differ from their previous study (Dev Cell, 2022). In that publication, SVF cells contributed 28% to the SIA and 48% to the SIV. In the present study, the numbers are close to 80% for both vessels. The difference is that the previous study analyzed 2dpf old embryos and the new one 4dpf old embryos. Do SVF-derived cells proliferate more than PCV-derived cells, or is there another explanation for this change in percentage contribution?

(5) Single-cell sequencing data: Why do the authors not show jam2b expression in their single-cell sequencing data? They sorted for (presumably) jam2b-expressing cells and hypothesize that jam2b expression in ECs at this time point is important for the generation of intestinal vasculature. Do ECs in cluster 15 express jam2b? Why are no other top marker genes (tal1, etv2, egfl7, npas4l) included in the dot blot in Figure 5b?

(6) Concerns about cell autonomy of mutant phenotypes: The authors need to perform in situ hybridization to characterize jam2a expression. Can it be seen in SVF cells? The double mutants show a clear phenotype in intestinal vessel development; however, it is unclear whether this is due to a cell-autonomous function of jam2a/b within SVF cells. The authors need to address this issue, as jam2b and potentially also jam2a are expressed within the tissue surrounding the forming SVF. For instance, do transplanted mutant cells contribute to the intestinal vasculature to the same extent as wild-type cells do?

(7) Finally, the authors analyze the phenotypes of hand2 mutants and their impact on the expression of jam2b and etv2. They observe a reduction in jam2b and etv2 expression in SVF cells. However, they do not show the vascular phenotypes of hand2 mutants. Is the formation of the SIA and SIV disturbed? Is hand2 cell autonomously needed in ECs? The authors suggest that hand2 controls SVF development through the regulation of jam2b. However, they also show that jam2b mutants do not have a phenotype on their own. Clearly, hand2, if it were to be required in ECs, regulates other genes important for SVF development. These might then regulate jam2b expression. The clear linear relationship, as the title suggests, is not convincingly shown by the data.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This study by Griciunaite et al. investigates the function of the adhesion molecule Jam2 in initiating the formation of organ (intestinal)-specific vasculature in zebrafish. Their previous studies identified a group of late-forming vascular progenitors from the lateral plate mesoderm along the yolk extension termed the secondary vascular field (SVF), which can contribute to intestinal vasculature. Transcriptomic analysis of the zebrafish trunk region identified SVF-enriched marker genes, which include jam2b. They then performed expression analysis of jam2b using whole-mount in situ hybridization and Gal4 knock-in transgenic line analysis. These analyses show that jam2b is expressed in the SVF cells that correspond to etv2 and kdrl expression past 24 hours. Lineage tracing combining jam2b:Gal4 and UAS:Cre or UAS:CreERT2 show the contribution of jam2b in SVF and intestinal vasculature formation. jam2b mutations did not cause observable defects in the vasculature, but combined jam2a; jam2b mutations led to impaired ISV, PCV, SIA, SIV and thoracic duct lymphatic vasculature formation. Finally, the authors show that mutations in the transcription factor hand2 led to reduced jam2b expression and impaired SVF formation.

Strengths:

The authors accomplished many feats in generating new reporter lines and mutations that are valuable to the community. The study provided an interesting perspective on organ-specific vascular development and origin heterogeneity. The genetic aspects of the study are clean, and the mutational phenotypes are convincing.

Several suggestions and major comments that can improve the manuscript include:

(1) Overall molecular mechanisms of Jam2 function are not fully uncovered in the study. How do the adhesion molecules Jam2a and Jam2b regulate SVF cell formation? Are they responsible for migration, adhesion or fate determination of these structures? The authors should provide a more in-depth study of the jam2a, jam2b mutations and assess the processes affected in these mutants. Combining these mutants with etv2:Kaede can also provide a stronger causative link between their functions and defects in SVF formation.

(2) Have the authors tested the specificity of the jam2b knock-in reporter line? This is an important experiment, as many of the conclusions derive from lineage tracing and fluorescence reporting from this knock-in line. One suggestion is to cross the jam2b:GFP or jam2b:Gal4, UAS:GFP line to the generated jam2b mutants, and examine the expression pattern of these lines. Considering that the ISH experiment showed lack of jam2b expression, the reporter line should not be expressed in the jam2b mutants.

(3) The rationale behind the regeneration study is not clear, and the mechanisms underlying the phenotype are not well described. How do the authors explain the phenotype with the impaired regeneration, and what is the significance of this finding as it relates to SVF formation and function?

(4) The authors need to include representative images of jam2b>CreERT2 with 4-OH activation at different timepoints in Figure 3.

(5) The etv2:Kaede photoconversion experiment to show that the majority of intestinal vasculature derives after 24 hours needs to be supplemented with additional data on photoconverted post-24-hour-old endothelial cells, with the expectation that the majority of intestinal endothelial cells at 4 days will then be labeled with red Kaede. In addition, there have been data that show the red Kaede protein is not stable past several days in vivo, and 3 days might be sufficient for the removal or degradation of this photoconverted protein. Thus, the statement that intestinal vasculature forms largely by new vasculogenesis might be too strong based on existing data.

(6) To strengthen the claim that hand2 acts upstream of jam2b, the authors can perform combinatorial genetic epistatic analysis and examine whether jam2b mutations worsen hand2 homozygous or heterozygous effects on the SVF. Similarly, overexpressing jam2b might rescue the loss of SVF/etv2 expression in hand2 mutants.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Wu and colleagues aimed to explain previous findings that adolescents, compared to adults, show reduced cooperation following cooperative behaviour from a partner in several social scenarios. The authors analysed behavioural data from adolescents and adults performing a zero-sum Prisoner's Dilemma task and compared a range of social and non-social reinforcement learning models to identify potential algorithmic differences. Their findings suggest that adolescents' lower cooperation is best explained by a reduced learning rate for cooperative outcomes, rather than differences in prior expectations about the cooperativeness of a partner. The authors situate their results within the broader literature, proposing that adolescents' behaviour reflects a stronger preference for self-interest rather than a deficit in mentalising.

Strengths:

The work as a whole suggests that, in line with past work, adolescents prioritise value accumulation, and this can be, in part, explained by algorithmic differences in weighted value learning. The authors situate their work very clearly in past literature, and make it obvious the gap they are testing and trying to explain. The work also includes social contexts which move the field beyond non-social value accumulation in adolescents. The authors compare a series of formal approaches that might explain the results and establish generative and model-comparison procedures to demonstrate the validity of their winning model and individual parameters. The writing was clear, and the presentation of the results was logical and well-structured.

Weaknesses:

I had some concerns about the methods used to fit and approximate parameters of interest. Namely, the use of maximum likelihood versus hierarchical methods to fit models on an individual level, which may reduce some of the outliers noted in the supplement, and also may improve model identifiability.

There was also little discussion given the structure of the Prisoner's Dilemma, and the strategy of the game (that defection is always dominant), meaning that the preferences of the adolescents cannot necessarily be distinguished from the incentives of the game, i.e. they may seem less cooperative simply because they want to play the dominant strategy, rather than a lower preferences for cooperation if all else was the same.

The authors have now addressed my comments and concerns in their revised version.

Appraisal & Discussion:

Overall, I believe this work has the potential to make a meaningful contribution to the field. Its impact would be strengthened by more rigorous modelling checks and fitting procedures, as well as by framing the findings in terms of the specific game-theoretic context, rather than general cooperation.

Comments on revisions:

Thank you to the authors for addressing my comments and concerns.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This manuscript investigates age-related differences in cooperative behavior by comparing adolescents and adults in a repeated Prisoner's Dilemma Game (rPDG). The authors find that adolescents exhibit lower levels of cooperation than adults. Specifically, adolescents reciprocate partners' cooperation to a lesser degree than adults do. Through computational modeling, they show that this relatively low cooperation rate is not due to impaired expectations or mentalizing deficits, but rather a diminished intrinsic reward for reciprocity. A social reinforcement learning model with asymmetric learning rate best captured these dynamics, revealing age-related differences in how positive and negative outcomes drive behavioral updates. These findings contribute to understanding the developmental trajectory of cooperation and highlight adolescence as a period marked by heightened sensitivity to immediate rewards at the expense of long-term prosocial gains.

Strengths:

Rigid model comparison and parameter recovery procedure. Conceptually comprehensive model space. Well-powered samples.

Weaknesses:

A key conceptual distinction between learning from non-human agents (e.g., bandit machines) and human partners is that the latter are typically assumed to possess stable behavioral dispositions or moral traits. When a non-human source abruptly shifts behavior (e.g., from 80% to 20% reward), learners may simply update their expectations. In contrast, a sudden behavioral shift by a previously cooperative human partner can prompt higher-order inferences about the partner's trustworthiness or the integrity of the experimental setup (e.g., whether the partner is truly interactive or human). The authors may consider whether their modeling framework captures such higher-order social inferences. Specifically, trait-based models-such as those explored in Hackel et al. (2015, Nature Neuroscience)-suggest that learners form enduring beliefs about others' moral dispositions, which then modulate trial-by-trial learning. A learner who believes their partner is inherently cooperative may update less in response to a surprising defection, effectively showing a trait-based dampening of learning rate.

This asymmetry in belief updating has been observed in prior work (e.g., Siegel et al., 2018, Nature Human Behaviour) and could be captured using a dynamic or belief-weighted learning rate. Models incorporating such mechanisms (e.g., dynamic learning rate models as in Jian Li et al., 2011, Nature Neuroscience) could better account for flexible adjustments in response to surprising behavior, particularly in the social domain.

Second, the developmental interpretation of the observed effects would be strengthened by considering possible non-linear relationships between age and model parameters. For instance, certain cognitive or affective traits relevant to social learning-such as sensitivity to reciprocity or reward updating-may follow non-monotonic trajectories, peaking in late adolescence or early adulthood. Fitting age as a continuous variable, possibly with quadratic or spline terms, may yield more nuanced developmental insights.

Finally, the two age groups compared-adolescents (high school students) and adults (university students)-differ not only in age but also in sociocultural and economic backgrounds. High school students are likely more homogenous in regional background (e.g., Beijing locals), while university students may be drawn from a broader geographic and socioeconomic pool. Additionally, differences in financial independence, family structure (e.g., single-child status), and social network complexity may systematically affect cooperative behavior and valuation of rewards. Although these factors are difficult to control fully, the authors should more explicitly address the extent to which their findings reflect biological development versus social and contextual influences.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have addressed most of my previous comments adequately. I only have a minor question: The models with some variations of RL seem to have very similar AIC. What were the authors' criteria in deciding which model is the "winning" model when several models have similar AIC? Are there ways of integrating models with similar structures into a "model family"? Alternatively, is it possible that different models fit better for different subgroups of participants (e.g., high schoolers vs. college students)?

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

This work by Reitz, Z. L. et al. developed an automated tool for high-throughput identification of microbial metallophore biosynthetic gene clusters (BGCs) by integrating knowledge of chelating moiety diversity and transporter gene families. The study aimed to create a comprehensive detection system combining chelator-based and transporter-based identification strategies, validate the tool through large-scale genomic mining, and investigate the evolutionary history of metallophore biosynthesis across bacteria.

Major strengths include providing the first automated, high-throughput tool for metallophore BGC identification, representing a significant advancement over manual curation approaches. The ensemble strategy effectively combines complementary detection methods, and experimental validation using HPLC-HRMS strengthens confidence in computational predictions. The work pioneers global analysis of metallophore diversity across the bacterial kingdom and provides a valuable dataset for future computational modeling.

Some limitations merit consideration. First, ground truth datasets derived from manual curation may introduce selection bias toward well-characterized systems, potentially affecting performance assessment accuracy. Second, the model's dependence on known chelating moieties and transporter families constrains its ability to detect novel metallophore architectures, limiting discovery potential in metagenomic datasets. Third, while the proposed evolutionary hypothesis is internally consistent, it lacks further validation.

The authors successfully achieved their stated objectives. The tool demonstrates robust performance metrics and practical utility through large-scale application to representative genomes. Results strongly support their conclusions through rigorous validation, including experimental confirmation of predicted metallophores via HPLC-HRMS analysis.

The work provides significant and immediate impact by enabling transition from labor-intensive manual approaches to automated screening. The comprehensive phylogenetic framework advances understanding of bacterial metal acquisition evolution, informing future studies on microbial metal homeostasis. Community utility is substantial, since the tool and accompanying dataset create essential resources for comparative genomics, algorithm development, and targeted experimental validation of novel metallophores.

Comments on revisions:

I am satisfied with the revisions made by the authors, and they have adequately addressed the concerns raised in the previous version of the manuscript.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study presents a systematic and well-executed effort to identify and classify bacterial NRP metallophores. The authors curate key chelator biosynthetic genes from previously characterized NRP-metallophore biosynthetic gene clusters (BGCs) and translate these features into an HMM-based detection module integrated within the antiSMASH platform.

The new algorithm is compared with a transporter-based siderophore prediction approach, demonstrating improved precision and recall. The authors further apply the algorithm to large-scale bacterial genome mining and, through reconciliation of chelator biosynthetic gene trees with the GTDB species tree using eMPRess, infer that several chelating groups may have originated prior to the Great Oxidation Event.<br /> Overall, this work provides a valuable computational framework that will greatly assist future in silico screening and preliminary identification of metallophore-related BGCs across bacterial taxa.

Strengths:

(1) The study provides a comprehensive curation of chelator biosynthetic genes involved in NRP-metallophore biosynthesis and translates this knowledge into an HMM-based detection algorithm, which will be highly useful for the initial screening and annotation of metallophore-related BGCs within antiSMASH.

(2) The genome-wide survey across a large bacterial dataset offers an informative and quantitative overview of the taxonomic distribution of NRP-metallophore biosynthetic chelator groups, thereby expanding our understanding of their phylogenetic prevalence.

(3) The comparative evolutionary analysis, linking chelator biosynthetic genes to bacterial phylogeny, provides an interesting and valuable perspective on the potential origin and diversification of NRP-metallophore chelating groups.

Weaknesses:

(1) Although the rule-based HMM detection performs well in identifying major categories of NRP-metallophore biosynthetic modules, it currently lacks the resolution to discriminate between fine-scale structural or biochemical variations among different metallophore types.

(2) While the comparison with the transporter-based siderophore prediction approach is convincing overall, more information about the dataset balance and composition would be appreciated. In particular, specifying the BGC identities, source organisms, and Gram-positive versus Gram-negative classification would improve transparency. In the supplementary tables, the "Just TonB" section seems to include only BGCs from Gram-negative bacteria-if so, this should be clearly stated, as Gram type strongly influences siderophore transport systems.

Comments on revisions:

The authors have adequately addressed all of my previous comments. I have no further comments on the revised manuscript.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

Poh and colleagues investigate dopamine signaling in the nucleus accumbens (ventromedial striatum) in rats engaged in several forms of Go/No Go tasks, which differed in reward controllability (self-initiated reward seeking or cue-evoked/quasi-pavlovian), and in the specific timing of the action-reward contingencies. They analyze dopamine recordings made with fast scan cyclic voltammetry, and find that dopamine signals vary most consistently to cues that signal a required action (Go cues) vs cues signaling action withholding (No Go cues). Through various analyses, they report that dopamine signals align most clearly with action initiation and with the approach to the reward-delivery location. Collectively, these data support aspects of a variety of frameworks related to accumbens dopamine signaling in movement, action vigor, approach, etc.

Strengths:

These studies use several task variants that consolidate a few different components of dopamine signal functions and allow for a broad comparison of many psychological and behavioral aspects. The behavioral analysis is detailed. These results touch on many previous findings, largely showing consistent results with past studies.

Weaknesses:

The paper could heavily benefit from some revision to increase clarity of the figures, the methods, and the analysis. The inclusion of many tasks is a strength, but also somewhat overshadows specific points in the data, which could be improved with some revision/reworking.

Some conclusions are not fully justified. As shown, support for the conclusion "dopamine reflects action initiation but not controllability or effort" is lacking without more analyses and additional context. Further, the notion that the dopamine signals reported here reflect spatial information could be justified more strongly.

Additional details on subjects used in each study, analysis details on trialwise vs subjects-wise data, and other context would be helpful for improving the paper.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Here, the authors record dopamine release using fast-scan cyclic voltammetry in the nucleus accumbens/ ventromedial striatum (VMS) while rats perform variants of a Go/No Go task. Two versions are self-paced, in that the rat can initiate a trial by nosepoking at the odor port at any time once the ITI has elapsed, whereas the other two require the rat to wait for a cue-light before responding. Two "long" variants also require either more lever-presses on Go trials, or a longer nosepoke time for No Go trials, and also incorporate "free" trials in which the rat is rewarded for just heading straight to the food tray. The authors find that dopamine levels increase more during the response requirement for Go than No Go trials, indicating a role for invigorating to-be-rewarded actions. Dopamine levels also steadily increased as rats approached the site of reward delivery, and the authors demonstrate quite elegantly that this was not due to orientation to the food tray, or time-to-reward, or action initiation, but instead reflects spatial proximity to the rewarded location. Contrary to previous reports, the authors did not discern any differences in dopamine dynamics depending on whether the trials were cue- or self-paced, and dopamine release did not scale with effort requirements.

The manuscript is well-written, and the authors use figures to great effect to explain what could otherwise be a hard-to-parse set of data. The authors make good use of the richness of their behavioral data to justify or negate potential conclusions. I have the following comments.

Re: The lack of relationship between effort to acquire reward in the current study and the magnitude of dopamine release, can the authors unpack this a bit more? Why the difference between the Walton and Bouret studies? Were the shifts in effort requirements comparable across the behavioral tasks? What else could be different between the methodologies?

I would argue that the cue- vs self-initiated distinction was pretty minor, given that there was a fixed ITI of 5s. How does this task modification compare to those used previously to show that dopamine release corresponds to behavioral controllability? It would help the reader if the authors could spend more time discussing these disparate findings and looking for points of methodological divergence/ commonality.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Poh et al. investigated whether dopamine release in the ventral medial striatum integrates information about action selection, controllability of reward pursuit, effort, and reward approach. Rats were implanted with FSCV probes and trained in four Go/No Go task variants:

(1) trials were self-initiated and had two trial types (Go vs. No Go) that were auditorily cued,

(2) trials were cue-initiated and had two trial types (Go vs. No Go) that were auditorily cued,

(3) trials were self-initiated and had three trial types (Go vs. No Go vs. free reward) that were auditorily cued, and effort was increased,

(4) trials were cue-initiated and had three trial types (Go vs. No Go vs. free reward) that were auditorily cued.

The authors report that dopamine levels rose during Go trials and slowly rose in No Go trials, but this pattern did not differ across task variants that modified effort and whether trials were cued or initiated. They also report that dopamine levels rose as rats approached the reward location and were greater in rats that bit the noseport while holding during the No Go response.

Strengths:

(1) Interesting task and variants within the task paradigm that would allow the authors to isolate specific behavioral metrics.

(2) The goal of determining precisely what VMS dopamine signals do is highly significant and would be of interest to many researchers.

Weaknesses:

(1) This Go/No-Go procedure is different from the traditional tasks, and this leads to several problems with interpreting the results:

(a) Go/No Go tasks typically require subjects to refrain from doing any action. In this task, a response is still required for the No Go trials (e.g., continue holding the nosepoke). The problem with this modified design is that failure to withhold a response on No Go trials could be because i) rats could not continue holding the response, as holding responses are difficult for rodents, or ii) rats could not suppress the prepotent go response. This makes interpreting the behavior and the dopamine signal in No Go trials very difficult.

(b) Most Go/No Go tasks bias or overrepresent Go trials so that the Go response is prepotent, and consequently, successful suppression of the Go response is challenging. I didn't see any information in the manuscript about how often each trial type was presented or how the authors ensured that No Go responses (or lack thereof) were reflecting a suppression of the Go response.

(2) The authors observe relatively consistent differences in the DA signal between Go and No Go trials after the action-cue onset. However, the response type was not randomized between trial type, so there is a confound between trial type (Go/No Go) and response (lever/nosepoke). The difference in DA signal may have nothing to do with the cue type, but reflects differences in DA signal elicited by levers vs. nosepokes.

(3) Both Go and No Go trials start with the rat having their nose in the noseport. One cue (Go cue) signals the rat to remove their nose from the noseport and make two lever responses in 5 seconds, whereas the other cue (No Go cue) signals the rat to keep their nose in the noseport for an additional 1.7-1.9 s. The authors state that the time between cue onset and reward delivery was kept the same for all trial types, and Figure 1 suggests this is 2 s, so was reward delivered before rats completed the two lever presses? I would imagine reward was only delivered if rats completed the FR requirement, but again, the descriptions in the text and figures are incongruent.

(4) The manuscript is difficult to understand because key details are not in the main text or are not mentioned at all. I've outlined several points below:

(a) The author's description in the manuscript makes it appear as a discrimination task versus a Go/No Go task. I suggest including more details in the main text that clarify what is required at each step in the task. Additionally, providing clarity regarding what task events the voltammetry traces are aligned to would be very useful.

(b) How many subjects were included in each task variant? The text makes it seem like all rats complete each task variant, but the behavioral data suggest otherwise. Moreover, it appears that some rats did more than one version. Was the order counterbalanced? If not, might this influence the DA signal?

(5) There is a major challenge in their design and interpretation of the dopamine signal. Both trial types (Go and No Go) start with the rat having their nose in the noseport. An auditory cue is presented for 2-3 s signaling to the rat to either leave the noseport and make a lever response (Go trial) or to stay in the noseport (No Go trial). The timing of these actions and/or decisions is entirely independent, so it is not clear to me how the authors would ever align these traces to the exact decision point for each trial type. They attempt to do this with the nose-port exit analysis, but exiting the noseport for a Go trial (a rat needs to make 2 lever presses and then get a reward) versus a No Go trial (a rat needs to go retrieve the reward) is very different and not comparable.

(6) The voltammetry analysis did not appear to test the hypotheses the authors outlined in the intro. All comparisons were done within task variants (DA dynamics in Go vs. No Go trials, aligned to different task events), but there were no comparisons across task variants to determine if the DA signal differed in cued vs self-initiated trials.

(7) Classification of No Go behaviors was interesting, but was not well integrated with the rest of the paper and was underdeveloped. It also raised more questions for me than answers. For example:

(a) Was the behavior classification consistent across rats for all No Go trials? If not, did the DA signal change within subjects between biting vs digging vs calm?

(b) If "biting rats" were not always biting rats on every No Go trial, then is it fair to collapse animals into a single measure (Figure 3C).

(c) Some of the classification groups only had 2 or fewer rats in them, making any statistical comparison and inference difficult.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The manuscript by Zeng et al. describes the discovery of an F-actin-binding Legionella pneumophila effector, which they term Lfat1. Lfat1 contains a putative fatty acyltransferase domain that structurally resembles the Rho-GTPase Inactivation (RID) domain toxin from Vibrio vulnificus, which targets small G-proteins. Additionally, Lfat1 contains a coiled-coil (CC) domain.

The authors identified Lfat1 as an actin-associated protein by screening more than 300 Legionella effectors, expressed as GFP-fusion proteins, for their co-localization with actin in HeLa cells. Actin binding is mediated by the CC domain, which specifically binds to F-actin in a 1:1 stoichiometry. Using cryo-EM, the authors determined a high-quality structure of F-actin filaments bound to the actin-binding domain (ABD) of Lfat1. The structure reveals that actin binding is mediated through a hydrophobic helical hairpin within the ABD (residues 213-279). A Y240A mutation within this region increases the apparent dissociation constant by two orders of magnitude, indicating a critical role for this residue in actin interaction.

The ABD alone was also shown to strongly associate with F-actin upon overexpression in cells. The authors used a truncated version of the Lfat1 ABD to engineer an F-actin-binding probe, which can be used in a split form. Finally, they demonstrate that full-length Lfat1, when overexpressed in cells, fatty acylates host small G-proteins, likely on lysine residues.

Comments on revisions:

Since LFAT1 cannot be produced in E. coli, it may be worth considering immunoprecipitating the protein from mammalian cells to see if it has activity in vitro. Presumably, actin will co-IP but the actin binding mutant can also be used. These are just suggestions to improve an already solid manuscript. Otherwise, I am happy with the paper.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Zeng et al reports the structural and biochemical study of a novel effectors from the bacterial pathogen Legionella pneumophila. The authors continued from results from their earlier screening for L. pneumophila proteins that that affect host F-actin dynamics to show that Llfat1 (Lpg1387) interacts with actin via a novel actin-binding domain (ABD). The authors also determined the structure of the Lfat1 ABD-F-actin complex, which allowed them to develop this ABD as probe for F-actin. Finally, the authors demonstrated that Llfat1 is a lysine fatty acyltransferase that targets several small GTPases in host cells. Overall, this is a very exciting study and should be of great interest to scientists in both bacterial pathogenesis and actin cytoskeleton of eukaryotic cells.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript by Yamamoto et al. presents a model by which the four main axes of the limb are required for limb regeneration to occur in the axolotl. A longstanding question in regeneration biology is how existing positional information is used to regenerate the correct missing elements. The limb provides an accessible experimental system by which to study the involvement of the anteroposterior, dorsoventral, and proximodistal axes in the regenerating limb. Extensive experimentation has been performed in this area using grafting experiments. Yamamoto et al. use the accessory limb model and some molecular tools to address this question. There are some interesting observations in the study. In particular, one strength the potent induction of accessory limbs in the dorsal axis with BMP2+Fgf2+Fgf8 is very interesting. Although interesting, the study makes bold claims about determining the molecular basis of DV positional cues, but the experimental evidence is not definitive and does not take into account the previous work on DV patterning in the amniote limb. Also, testing the hypothesis on blastemas after limb amputation would be needed to support the strong claims in the study.

Strengths:

The manuscript presents some novel new phenotypes generated in axolotl limbs due to Wnt signaling. This is generally the first example in which Wnt signaling has provided a gain of function in the axolotl limb model. They also present a potent way of inducing limb patterning in the dorsal axis by the addition of just beads loaded with Bmp2+Fgf8+Fgf2.

Comments on revised version:

Re-evaluation: The authors have significantly improved the manuscript and their conclusions reflect the current state of knowledge in DV patterning of tetrapod limbs. My only point of consideration is their claim of mesenchymal and epithelial expression of Wnt10b and the finding that Fgf2 and Wnt10b are lowly expressed. It is based upon the failed ISH, but this doesn't mean they aren't expressed. In interpreting the Li et al. scRNAseq dataset, conclusions depend heavily on how one analyzes and interprets it. The 7DPA sample shows a very low representation of epithelial cells compared to other time points, but this is likely a technical issue. Even the epithelial marker, Krt17, and the CT/fibroblast marker show some expression elsewhere. If other time points are included in the analysis, Wnt10b, would be interpreted as relatively highly expressed almost exclusively in the epithelium. By selecting the 7dpa timepoint, which may or may not represent the MB stage as it wasn't shown in the paper, the conclusions may be based upon incomplete data. I don't expect the authors to do more work, but it is worth mentioning this possibility. The authors have considered and made efforts to resolve previous concerns.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

This study explores how signals from all sides of a developing limb, front/back and top/bottom, work together to guide the regrowth of a fully patterned limb in axolotls, a type of salamander known for its impressive ability to regenerate limbs. Using a model called the Accessory Limb Model (ALM), the researchers created early staged limb regenerates (called blastemas) with cells from different sides of the limb. They discovered that successful limb regrowth only happens when the blastema contains cells from both the top (dorsal) and bottom (ventral) of the limb. They also found that a key gene involved in front/back limb patterning, called Shh (Sonic hedgehog), is only turned on when cells from both the dorsal and ventral sides come into contact. The study identified two important molecules, Wnt10B and FGF2, that help activate Shh when dorsal and ventral cells interact. Finally, the authors propose a new model that explains how cells from all four sides of a limb, dorsal, ventral, anterior (front), and posterior (back), contribute at both the cellular and molecular level to rebuilding a properly structured limb during regeneration

Strengths:

The techniques used in this study, like delicate surgeries, tissue grafting, and implanting tiny beads soaked with growth factors, are extremely difficult, and only a few research groups in the world can do them successfully. These methods are essential for answering important questions about how animals like axolotls regenerate limbs with the correct structure and orientation. To understand how cells from different sides of the limb communicate during regeneration, the researchers used a technique called in situ hybridization, which lets them see where specific genes are active in the developing limb. They clearly showed that the gene Shh, which helps pattern the front and back of the limb, only turns on when cells from both the top (dorsal) and bottom (ventral) sides are present and interacting. The team also took a broad, unbiased approach to figure out which signaling molecules are unique to dorsal and ventral limb cells. They tested these molecules individually and discovered which could substitute for actual dorsal and ventral cells, providing the same necessary signals for proper limb development. Overall, this study makes a major contribution to our understanding of how complex signals guide limb regeneration, showing how different regions of the limb work together at both the cellular and molecular levels to rebuild a fully patterned structure.

Weaknesses:

Because the expressional analyses are performed on thin sections of regenerating tissue, in the original manuscript, they provided only a limited view of the gene expression patterns in their experiments, opening the possibility that they could be missing some expression in other regions of the blastema. Additionally, the quantification method of the expressional phenotypes in most of the experiments did not appear to be based on a rigorous methodology. The authors' inclusion of an alternate expression analysis, qRT-PCR, on the entire blastema helped validate that the authors are not missing something in the revised manuscript.

Overall, the number of replicates per sample group in the original manuscript was quite low (sometimes as low as 3), which was especially risky with challenging techniques like the ones the authors employ. The authors have improved the rigor of the experiment in the revised manuscript by increasing the number of replicates. The authors have not performed a power analysis to calculate the number of animals used in each experiment that is sufficient to identify possible statistical differences between groups. However, the authors have indicated that there was not sufficient preliminary data to appropriately make these quantifications.

Likewise, in the original manuscript, the authors used an AI-generated algorithm to quantify symmetry on the dorsal/ventral axis, and my concern was that this approach doesn't appear to account for possible biases due to tissue sectioning angles. They also seem to arbitrarily pick locations in each sample group to compare symmetry measurements. There are other methods, which include using specific muscle groups and nerve bundles as dorsal/ventral landmarks, that would more clearly show differences in symmetry. The authors have now sufficiently addressed this concern by including transverse sections of the limbs annd have explained the limitations of using a landmark-based approach in their quantification strategy.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

After salamander limb amputation, the cross-section of the stump has two major axes: anterior-posterior and dorsal-ventral. Cells from all axial positions (anterior, posterior, dorsal, ventral) are necessary for regeneration, yet the molecular basis for this requirement has remained unknown. To address this gap, Yamamoto et al. took advantage of the ALM assay, in which defined positional identities can be combined on demand and their effects assessed through the outgrowth of an ectopic limb. They propose a compelling model in which dorsal and ventral cells communicate by secreting Wnt10b and Fgf2 ligands respectively, with this interaction inducing Shh expression in posterior cells. Shh was previously shown to induce limb outgrowth in collaboration with anterior Fgf8 (PMID: 27120163). Thus, this study completes a concept in which four secreted signals from four axial positions interact for limb patterning. Notably, this work firmly places dorsal-ventral interactions upstream of anterior-posterior, which is striking for a field that has been focussed on anterior-posterior communication. The ligands identified (Wnt10b, Fgf2) are different to those implicated in dorsal-ventral patterning in the non-regenerative mouse and chick models. The strength of this study is in the context of ALM/ectopic limb engineering. Although the authors attempt to assay the expression of Wnt10b and Fgf2 during limb regeneration after amputation, they were unable to pinpoint the precise expression domains of these genes beyond 'dorsal' and 'ventral' blastema. Given that experimental perturbations were not performed in regenerating limbs - almost exclusively under ALM conditions - this author finds the title "Dorsoventral-mediated Shh induction is required for axolotl limb regeneration" a little misleading.

Strengths:

(1) The ALM and use of GFP grafts for lineage tracing (Figures 1-3) take full advantage of the salamander model's unique ability to outgrow patterned limbs under defined conditions. As far as I am aware, the ALM has not been combined with precise grafts that assay 2 axial positions at once, as performed in Figure 3. The number of ALMs performed in this study deserves special mention, considering the challenging surgery involved.

(2) The authors identify that posterior Shh is not expressed unless both dorsal and ventral cells are present. This echoes previous work in mouse limb development models (AER/ectoderm-mesoderm interaction) but this link between axes was not known in salamanders. The authors elegantly reconstitute dorsal-ventral communication by grafting, finding that this is sufficient to trigger Shh expression (Figure 3 - although see also section on Weaknesses).

(3) Impressively, the authors discovered two molecules sufficient to substitute dorsal or ventral cells through electroporation into dorsal- or ventral- depleted ALMs (Figure 5). These molecules did not change the positional identity of target cells. The same group previously identified the ventral factor (Fgf2) to be a nerve-derived factor essential for regeneration. In Figure 6, the authors demonstrate that nerve-derived factors, including Fgf2, are alone sufficient to grow out ectopic limbs from a dorsal wound. Limb induction with a 3-factor cocktail without supplementing with other cells is conceptually important for regenerative engineering.

(4) The writing style and presentation of results is very clear.

Overall appraisal:

This is a logical and well-executed study that creatively uses the axolotl model to advance an important framework for understanding limb patterning. The relevance of the mechanisms to normal limb regeneration are not yet substantiated, in the opinion of this reviewer. Additionally, Wnt10b and Fgf2 should be considered molecules sufficient to substitute dorsal and ventral identity (solely in terms of inducing Shh expression). It is not yet clear whether these molecules are truly necessary (loss of function would address this).

Comments on revisions:

Congratulations - I still find this an elegant and easy-to-read study with significant implications for the field! Linking your mechanisms to normal limb regeneration (i.e. regenerating blastema, not ALM), as well as characterising the cell populations involved, will be interesting directions for the future.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

Summary:

This study uses single-molecule FRET to analyze the conformational ensemble of an ABC transporter at different temperatures, with different substrate analogs, and under different membrane curvatures (i.e., two populations of vesicles with different radii). The authors combine this data into a general model that describes the influence of membrane curvature on membrane protein conformation.

Strengths:

This interesting and quantitative work uses detailed FRET measurements at two different temperatures and in the presence of substrate and two substrate analogs to tease out the energetic contribution of membrane curvature in the conformational change of an ABC transporter. The mechanistic model distinguishes between equilibrium conditions (non-hydrolyzable ATP analog) and steady-state conditions (ATP analog), and describes the data well. The authors are careful with the experimental measurement of the liposome size distribution and perform appropriate controls to ensure it is maintained throughout the experiment.

Weaknesses:

An important aspect of this paper is the difference in mechanism between inhibitors AMP-PNP (a substrate analog) and vanadate (together with ADP, forms a transition state analog inhibitor). The mechanisms and inhibitory constants/binding affinities of these inhibitors are not very well-supported in the current form of the manuscript, either through citations or through experiments. Related to this, the interpretation of the different curvature response of BmrA in the presence of vanadate vs AMPPNP is not very clear.

Overall, the energetic contribution of the membrane curvature is subtle (less than a kT), so while the principles seem generalizable among membrane proteins, whether these principles impact transport or cell physiology remains to be established.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

Membrane transport proteins function by the alternating access model in which a central substrate binding site is alternately exposed to the soluble phase on either side of the membrane. For many members of the ABC transporter family, the transport cycle involves conformational isomerization between an outward-facing V-shaped conformation and an inward-facing Λ-shaped conformation. In the present manuscript, it is hypothesized that the difference in free energy between these conformational states depends on the radius of curvature of the membrane and hence, that transport activity can be modulated by this parameter.

To test this, BmrA, a multidrug exporter in Bacillus subtilis, was reconstituted into spherical proteoliposomes of different diameters and hence different radii of curvature. By measuring flux through the ATP turnover cycle in an enzymatic assay and conformational isomerization by single-molecule FRET, the authors argue that the activity of BmrA can be experimentally manipulated by altering the radius of curvature of the membrane. Flux through the transport cycle was found to be reduced at high membrane curvature. It is proposed that the potential to modulate transport flux through membrane curvature may allow ABC transporters to act as mechanosensors by analogy to mechanosensitive ion channels such as the Piezo channels and K2P channels.

Although an interesting methodology is established, additional experimentation and analyses would be required to support the major claims of the manuscript.

Strengths:

Mechanosensitivity of proteins is an understudied phenomenon, in part due to a scarcity of methods to study the activity of proteins in response to mechanical stimuli in purified systems. Useful experimental and theoretical frameworks are established to address the hypothesis, which potentially could have implications for a large class of membrane proteins. The tested hypothesis for the mechanosensitivity of the BmrA transporter is intuitive and compelling.

Weaknesses and comments:

(1) Although this study may be considered as a purely biophysical investigation of the sensitivity of an ABC transporter to mechanical perturbation of the membrane, the impact would be strengthened if a physiological rationale for this mode of regulation were discussed. Many factors, including temperature, pH, ionic strength, or membrane potential, are likely to affect flux through the transport cycle to some extent, without justifying describing BmrA as a sensor for changes in any of these. Indeed, a much stronger dependence on temperature than on membrane curvature was measured. It is not clear what radii of curvature BmrA would normally be exposed to, and whether this range of curvatures corresponds to the range at which modulation of transport activity could occur. Similarly, it is not clear what biological condition would involve a substantial change to membrane curvature or tension that would necessitate altered BmrA activity.

(2) The size distributions of vesicles were estimated by cryoEM. However, grid blotting leaves a very thin layer of vitreous ice that could sterically exclude large vesicles, leading to a systematic underestimation of the vesicle size distribution.

(3) The relative difference in ATP turnover rates for BmrA in small versus large vesicles is modest (~2-fold) and could arise from different success rates of functional reconstitution with the different protocols.

(4) The conformational state of the NBDs of BmrA was measured by smFRET imaging. Several aspects of these investigations could be improved or clarified. Firstly, the inclusion and exclusion criteria for individual molecules should be more quantitatively described in the methods. Secondly, errors were estimated by bootstrapping. Given the small differences in state occupancies between conditions, true replicates and statistical tests would better establish confidence in their significance. Thirdly, it is concerning that very few convincing dynamic transitions between states were observed. This may in part be due to fast photobleaching compared to the rate of isomerization, but this could be overcome by reducing the imaging frequency and illumination power. Alternatively, several labs have established the ability to exchange solution during imaging to thereby monitor the change in FRET distribution as a ligand is delivered or removed. Visualizing dynamic and reversible responses to ligands would greatly bolster confidence in the condition-dependent changes in FRET distributions. Such pre-steady state experiments would also allow direct comparison of the kinetics of isomerization from the inward-facing to the outward-facing conformation on delivery of ATP between small and large vesicles.

(5) A key observation is that BmrA was more prone to isomerize ATP- or AMP-PNP-dependently to the outward-facing conformations in large vesicles. Surprisingly, the same was not observed with vanadate-trapping, although the sensitivity of state occupancy to membrane curvature would be predicted to be greatest when state occupancies of both inward- and outward-facing states are close to 50%. It is argued that this was due to irreversibility of vanadate-trapping, but both vanadate and AMP-PNP should work fully reversibly on ABC transporters (see e.g. PMID: 7512348 for vanadate). Further, if trapping were fully irreversible, a quantitative shift to the outward-facing condition would be predicted.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

The manuscript explores the dependence of ABC transporter activity on membrane curvature. The underlying concept being analysed here is whether membrane mechanics can regulate the conformation of the protein and thereby its activity.

Strengths:

The protein of choice here is BmrA, a bacterial transmembrane ABC transporter. This protein was previously found to exhibit two states: open conformation with Nucleotide Binding domains (NBDs) separated from each other and an ATP-bound closed conformation with dimerised NBDs. The protein was purified and reconstituted into liposomes of varying diameters, largely categorised as Small vesicles (SV) and Large vesicles (LV). The authors find that the activity of the protein is reduced with the changing curvature of the membrane vesicles used to make the proteoliposomes. This could be modulated by making vesicles at different temperatures, LV at high and SV at lower temperature (4 {degree sign}C), following which they perform biochemical measurement of activity or smFRET experiments at HT or RT. They use well-characterized single-molecule FRET-based measurements to assess the change in conformation of the protein during the ATPase cycle. They find that a significant fraction of the protein is in an open (inactive) conformation in vesicles of higher curvature (SVs) at a given temperature. The authors develop a simple yet elegant theoretical model based on the energy of protein configuration states and their coupling to membrane energetics (bending rigidity) and curvature to explain these findings. The model provides a parameter-free fit that predicts the open/closed state distributions as well as the ATPase activity differences between SV and LV. Using experimentally determined values of the protein conicity, the authors to extract reasonable values of membrane rigidity, consistent with available literature.

The data and theoretical model together convincingly support the claim that membrane mechanics via local curvature modulation may bias membrane protein conformation states and thereby modify the activity of membrane proteins. This is an important and general conclusion that the authors also elaborate on in their discussion.

Weaknesses:

The authors say that the protein activity is irreversibly inhibited by orthovanadate, but 50% of the proteins are still in open conformation, while being accessible to the analogue (Table 2). It is unclear what this means in the context of activity vs. conformation.

The difference in the fraction of proteins in closed conformation is quite similar between LV and SV treated with AMP-PNP at 20 {degree sign}C (Figure 2B), and it is not clear if the difference is significant. The presence of a much higher FRET tail in the plots of smFRET experiment in SVs at 20 {degree sign}C or 33 {degree sign}C in the apo conformation of the protein (Figure 3A-B) is cause of some concern since one would not expect BmrA to access the closed states more frequently in the Apo conformation especially when incorporated in the SV. This is because the subtraction of the higher fraction of closed states in the Apo conformation contributes directly to enhancing the bias between the closed states in SV versus LV membrane bilayers.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

The new results fill a key gap in the logic by strongly supporting the foundational premise that the very quickly reverting paired pulse depression at layer 2/3 synapses is caused by pool depletion. They are particularly critical because a previous study (Dobrunz, Huang, and Stevens, 1997) showed that a similar phenomenon is caused by a completely different category of mechanisms at Schaffer collateral synapses. This does not seem to be a case where the previous study was incorrect because, unlike here, synaptic strength at Schaffer collateral synapses is highly sensitive to extracellular Ca2+. Overall, such a fundamental difference between layer 2/3 and Schaffer synapses is highly noteworthy, given the similarities at the level of morphology and timing, and should be highlighted in the Discussion as an important result of its own. My only hesitation is that the authors do not seem to have done the control experiments, that I suggested, that would have confirmed that the synaptic strength remains stable when switching back to 1.3 mM Ca2+.

Reviewer #1 (Public review):

The revised manuscript presents an interesting and technically competent set of experiments exploring the role of the infralimbic cortex (IL) in extinction learning. The inclusion of histological validation in the supplemental material improves the transparency and credibility of the results, and the overall presentation has been clarified. However, several key issues remain that limit the strength of the conclusions.

The behavioral effects reported are modest, as evident from the trial-by-trial data included in the supplemental figures. Although the authors interpret their findings as evidence that IL stimulation facilitates extinction only after prior inhibitory learning, this conclusion is not directly supported by their data. The experiments do not include a condition in which IL stimulation is delivered during extinction training alone, without prior inhibitory experience. Without this control, the claim that prior inhibitory memory is necessary for facilitation remains speculative.

The electrophysiological example provided shows that IL stimulation induces a sustained inhibition that outlasts the stimulation period. This prolonged suppression could potentially interfere with consolidation processes following tone presentation rather than facilitating them. The authors should consider and discuss this alternative interpretation in light of their behavioral data.

It is unfortunate that several animals had to be excluded after histological verification, but the resulting mismatch between groups remains a concern. Without a power analysis indicating the number of subjects required to achieve reliable effects, it is difficult to determine whether the modest behavioral differences reflect genuine biological variability or insufficient statistical power. Additional animals may be needed to properly address this imbalance.

Overall, while the manuscript is improved in clarity and methodological detail, the behavioral effects remain weak, and the mechanistic interpretation requires stronger experimental support and consideration of alternative explanations.

Reviewer #2 (Public review):

Summary:

In this manuscript, the authors examine the mechanisms by which stimulation of the infralimbic cortex (IL) facilitates the retention and retrieval of inhibitory memories. Previous work has shown that optogenetic stimulation of the IL suppresses freezing during extinction but does not improve extinction recall when extinction memory is probed one day later. When stimulation occurs during a second extinction session (following a prior stimulation-free extinction session), freezing is suppressed during the second extinction as well as during the tone test the following day. The current study was designed to further explore the facilitatory role of the IL in inhibitory learning and memory recall. The authors conducted a series of experiments to determine whether recruitment of IL extends to other forms of inhibitory learning (e.g., backward conditioning) and to inhibitory learning involving appetitive conditioning. Further, they assessed whether their effects could be explained by stimulus familiarity. The results of their experiments show that backward conditioning, another form of inhibitory learning, also enabled IL stimulation to enhance fear extinction. This phenomenon was not specific to aversive learning as backward appetitive conditioning similarly allowed IL stimulation to facilitate extinction of aversive memories. Finally, the authors ruled out the possibility that IL facilitated extinction merely because of prior experience with the stimulus (e.g., reducing the novelty of the stimulus). These findings significantly advance our understanding of the contribution of IL to inhibitory learning. Namely, they show that the IL is recruited during various forms of inhibitory learning and its involvement is independent of the motivational value associated with the unconditioned stimulus.

Strengths to highlight:

(1) Transparency about the inclusion of both sexes and the representation of data from both sexes in figures.

(2) Very clear representation of groups and experimental design for each figure.

(3) The authors were very rigorous in determining the neurobehavioral basis for the effects of IL stimulation on extinction. They considered multiple interpretations and designed experiments to address these possible accounts of their data.

(4) The rationale for and the design of the experiments in this manuscript are clearly based on a wealth of knowledge about learning theory. The authors leveraged this expertise to narrow down how the IL encodes and retrieves inhibitory memories.

Reviewer #3 (Public review):

Summary:

This is a really nice manuscript with different lines of evidence to show that the IL encodes inhibitory memories that can then be manipulated by optogenetic stimulation of these neurons during extinction. The behavioral designs are excellent, with converging evidence using extinction/re-extinction, backwards/forwards aversive conditioning, and backwards appetitive/forwards aversive conditioning. Additional factors, such as nonassociative effects of the CS or US, also are considered, and the authors evaluate the inhibitory properties of the CS with tests of conditioned inhibition. The authors have addressed the prior reviews. I still think it is unfortunate that the groups were not properly balanced in some of the figures (as noted by the authors, they were matched appropriately in real time, but some animals had to be dropped after histology, which caused some balancing issues). I think the overall pattern of results is compelling enough that more subjects do not need to be added, but it would still be nice to see more acknowledgement and statistical analyses of how these pre-existing differences may have impacted test performance.

Strengths:

The experimental designs are very rigorous with an unusual level of behavioral sophistication.

Weaknesses:

The various group differences in Figure 2 prior to any manipulation are still problematic. There was a reliable effect of subsequent group assignment in Figure 2 (p<0.05, described as "marginal" in multiple places). Then there are differences in extinction (nonsignificant at p=.07). The test difference between ReExt OFF/ON is identical to the difference at the end of extinction and the beginning of Forward 2, in terms of absolute size. I really don't think much can be made of the test result. The authors state in their response that this difference was not evident during the forward phase, but there clearly is a large ordinal difference on the first trial. I think it is appropriate to only focus on test differences when groups are appropriately matched, but when there are pre-existing differences (even when not statistically significant) then they really need to be incorporated into the statistical test somehow.

The same problem is evident in Figure 4B, but here the large differences in the Same groups are opposite to the test differences. It's hard to say how those large differences ultimately impacted the test results. I suppose it is good that the differences during Forward conditioning did not ultimately predict test differences, but this really should have been addressed with more subjects in these experiments. The authors explore the interactions appropriately but with n=6 in the various subgroups, it's not surprising that some of these effects were not detected statistically.

It is useful to see the trial-by-trial test data now presented in the supplement. I think the discussion does a good job of addressing the issues of retrieval, but the ideas of Estes about session cues that the authors bring up in their response haven't really held up over the years (e.g., Robbins, 1990, who explicitly tested this; other demonstrations of within-session spontaneous recovery), for what it's worth.

Reviewer #4 (Public review):

Summary:

The authors demonstrate a computational rational design approach for developing RNA aptamers with improved binding to the Receptor Binding Domain (RBD) of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. They demonstrate the ability of their approach to improve binding affinity using a previously identified RNA aptamer, RBD-PB6-Ta, which binds to the RBD. They also computationally estimate the binding energies of various RNA aptamers with the RBD and compare against RBD binding energies for a few neutralizing antibodies from the literature. Finally, experimental binding affinities are estimated by electrophoretic mobility shift assays (EMSA) for various RNA aptamers and a single commercially available neutralizing antibody to support the conclusions from computational studies on binding. The authors conclude that their computational framework, CAAMO, can provide reliable structure predictions and effectively support rational design of improved affinity for RNA aptamers towards target proteins. Additionally, they claim that their approach achieved design of high affinity RNA aptamer variants that bind to the RBD as well or better than a commercially available neutralizing antibody.

Strengths:

The thorough computational approaches employed in the study provide solid evidence of the value of their approach for computational design of high affinity RNA aptamers. The theoretical analysis using Free Energy Perturbation (FEP) to estimate relative binding energies supports the claimed improvement of affinity for RNA aptamers and provides valuable insight into the binding model for the tested RNA aptamers in comparison to previously studied neutralizing antibodies. The multimodal structure prediction in the early stages of the presented CAAMO framework, combined with the demonstrated outcome of improved affinity using the structural predictions as a starting point for rational design, provide moderate confidence in the structure predictions.

Weaknesses:

The experimental characterization of RBD affinities for the antibody and RNA aptamers in this study present serious concerns regarding the methods used and the data presented in the manuscript, which call into question the major conclusions regarding affinity towards the RBD for their aptamers compared to antibodies. The claim that structural predictions from CAAMO are reasonable is rational, but this claim would be significantly strengthened by experimental validation of the structure (i.e. by chemical footprinting or solving the RBD-aptamer complex structure).

The conclusions in this work are somewhat supported by the data, but there are significant issues with experimental methods that limit the strength of the study's conclusions.

(1) The EMSA experiments have a number of flaws that limit their interpretability. The uncropped electrophoresis images, which should include molecular size markers and/or positive and negative controls for bound and unbound complex components to support interpretation of mobility shifts, are not presented. In fact, a spliced image can be seen for Figure 4E, which limits interpretation without the full uncropped image. Additionally, he volumes of EMSA mixtures are not presented when a mass is stated (i.e. for the methods used to create Figure 3D), which leaves the reader without the critical parameter, molar concentration, and therefore leaves in question the claim that the tested antibody is high affinity under the tested conditions. Additionally, protein should be visualized in all gels as a control to ensure that lack of shifts is not due to absence/aggregation/degradation of the RBD protein. In the case of Figure 3E, for example, it can be seen that there are degradation products included in the RBD-only lane, introducing a reasonable doubt that the lack of a shift in RNA tests (i.e. Figure 2F) is conclusively due to a lack of binding. Finally, there is no control for nonspecific binding, such as BSA or another non-target protein, which fails to eliminate the possibility of nonspecific interactions between their designed aptamers and proteins in general. A nonspecific binding control should be included in all EMSA experiments.

(2) The evidence supporting claims of better binding to RBD by the aptamer compared to the commercial antibody is flawed at best. The commercial antibody product page indicates an affinity in low nanomolar range, whereas the fitted values they found for the aptamers in their study are orders of magnitude higher at tens of micromolar. Moreover, the methods section is lacking in the details required to appropriately interpret the competitive binding experiments. With a relatively short 20-minute equilibration time, the order of when the aptamer is added versus the antibody makes a difference in which is apparently bound. The issue with this becomes apparent with the lack of internal consistency in the presented results, namely in comparing Fig 3E (which shows no interference of Ta binding with 5uM antibody) and Fig 5D (which shows interference of Ta binding with 0.67-1.67uM antibody). The discrepancy between these figures calls into question the methods used, and it necessitates more details regarding experimental methods used in this manuscript.

(3) The utility of the approach for increasing affinity of RNA aptamers for their targets is well supported through computational and experimental techniques demonstrating relative improvements in binding affinity for their G34C variant compared to the starting Ta aptamer. While the EMSA experiments do have significant flaws, the observations of relative relationships in equilibrium binding affinities among the tested aptamer variants can be interpreted with reasonable confidence, given that they were all performed in a consistent manner.

(4) The claim that the structure of the RBD-Aptamer complex predicted by the CAAMO pipeline is reliable is tenuous. The success of their rational design approach based on the structure predicted by several ensemble approaches supports the interpretation of the predicted structure as reasonable, however, no experimental validation is undertaken to assess the accuracy of the structure. This is not a main focus of the manuscript, given the applied nature of the study to identify Ta variants with improved binding affinity, however the structural accuracy claim is not strongly supported without experimental validation (i.e. chemical footprinting methods).

(5) Throughout the manuscript, the phrasing of "all tested antibodies" was used, despite there being only one tested antibody in experimental methods and three distinct antibodies in computational methods. While this concern is focused on specific language, the major conclusion that their designed aptamers are as good or better than neutralizing antibodies in general is weakened by only testing only three antibodies through computational binding measurements and a fourth single antibody for experimental testing. The contact residue mapping furthermore lacks clarity in the number of structures that were used, with a vague description of structures from the PDB including no accession numbers provided nor how many distinct antibodies were included for contact residue mapping.

Overall, the manuscript by Yang et al presents a valuable tool for rational design of improved RNA aptamer binding affinity toward target proteins, which the authors call CAAMO. Notably, the method is not intended for de novo design, but rather as a tool for improving aptamers that have been selected for binding affinity by other methods such as SELEX. While there are significant issues in the conclusions made from experiments in this manuscript, the relative relationships of observed affinities within this study provide solid evidence that the CAAMO framework provides a valuable tool for researchers seeking to use rational design approaches for RNA aptamer affinity maturation.