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he next thing will be overshoot so we then say 1.5 and then you know keep our fingers crossed there'll be an overshoot of 0.2 or3 or half a degree or whatever it might be and then the next bit after that will be due engineering so we'll embed the SRM in and so that that is the that's the D that's the direction that we are going
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what they're saying is we have to do everything we can on mitigation that doesn't change business as usual doesn't mean that people like me can carry on living like I am today in my large house big car flying around the world consuming lots of goods as long as you don't question that um we can we can try mitigation but we're going to therefore we're going to need geoengineering so we lock it in not just in by by evoking it in our language but by the Norms of how we the people evoking it are behaving the experts are behaving in a way that climate change is no not important there's no credibility lended to lent to our arguments because it doesn't look like we think it's serious
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I don't expect the policy makers or let's say the journalist the policy makers in Civil Society to really be aware of the challenges we Face unless the expert Community we are paid to do this this is our job unless the expert Community describes things more more in line with what our analysis and our conclusions are but we don't and the re the way we were able to hold that cognitive dissonance is because we can now in our own expertise we've now relied on the GE engineering
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in my view it's absolutely clear that even talking about this now I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about it and this is a bit dilemma but even talking about it this will already be feeding into Delayed Action elsewhere in the same way that negative emission Technologies sucking CO2 out the air has actually undermined the need for Action that has undermined the scale of the challenge that the climate scientists the academics the experts have said is now necessary
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at the moment you know where we're heading looks dire there's there's there's little to be optimistic about
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our universities aren't aren't doing that you know none of our institutions are doing that the conference merry go around of climate negotiations and and academics flying around the world that's not doing it know none of us are doing this it's a scam
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why do our journalists feel they' got to fly to other parts of the world with the camera crew to film some disaster that's elsewhere that's occurred elsewhere why can't those people be training to use the cameras and Report you we we've embedded this sort of colonial view of the world and this Elite view of the world and we like to think of ourselves as good people in this and there's something deeply problematic in all of this and we have to start to unpick this if we're going to be serious about climate change
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why is it when colleagues do field work they feel they have to fly backwards and forwards to do their field work often say in the southern hemisphere
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the majority of working group three which has been dominated by the integrated assessment model these big models that basically economic models with a bit of technology or a bit of mythical technology and a bit of um social sciences bolted on the side and and a small climate model but basically just economic models the business as usual models these models have dominated what we have to do about climate change
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I've for a long time said I don't think working group three should be part of the ipcc it's just inate reducing emissions is innately political
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working group three is just Exxon in Disguise um you know there are good people in working group three but working group three and integrated assessment models good people working some of the people are good people there working in deeply subjective boundaries that have been set up by we mustn't Rock the political boat
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we hit it for one year and that doesn't tell us we've hit it or we haven't hit it so we we typically want to see a longer running average so we typically use an 11-year running average so a single year doesn't tell us we've hit it or we haven't hit it but it but it may well be that we're already in that long um like that that long run average we might be already one of those years that means we're not going to drop below 1.5
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quote - climate crisis - In 2024, temperatures soared above 1.5 Deg C. Have we breached the threshold? Yes and No - Kevin Anderson - (see below) - We hit it for one year and that doesn't tell us we've hit it or we haven't hit it - We we typically want to see a longer running average so we typically use n 11-year running average - so a single year doesn't tell us we've hit it or we haven't hit it - But it may well be that we're already in that long run average - We might be already one of those years that means we're not going to drop below 1.5
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This 1% of humanity uses its awesome power to manipulate societal aspirations and the narratives around climate change. These extend from well-funded advertising to pseudo-technical solutions, from the financialisation of carbon emissions (and increasingly, nature) to labelling extreme any meaningful narrative that questions inequality and power.
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- it is the societal aspiration of the logic of capitalism and the free market that continues to create the next generation of the 1%
- How can the luxury industry NOT BE high carbon intensity? It's an oxymoron. High carbon is baked into the definition of luxury, and it is luxury goods and services which accelerate climate breakdown.
- The elites have a strong feeling of entitlement. They feel they DESERVE to reward themselves with a luxury lifestyle. That aspiration and reward structure multiplied by 80 million (1% of 8 billion) is a major variable driving the climate crisis
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title: A Habitable Earth Can No Longer Afford The Rich – And That Could Mean Me And You
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- This article was pulled by "The Conversation" for being too controversial
- It addresses the double-bind / wicked problems that we find ourselves in.
- It's not just that the elites that are the highest per capita polluters, but
- it is an indictment of the entire philosophy and worldview of capitalism and the market economy which produces winners and losers and
- the winners reap enormous resource benefits, including being able to afford luxury items as rewards which constitute the largest ecological footprint of all
- while at any one time, there is always a minority of the 1%, who hold the most outsized ecological footprint of all, the logic that produced that 1% also serves as the incentives for the majority of the 99%, who because of the inherent precarity created by capitalism, will fight and struggle to become part of that 1%
- So while one generation of the 1% die off, a new generation is born and created by the incentive structure of scarcity and precarity.
- In this sense, capitalism has its own self-reinforcing, positive feedback loop that keeps the masses of the disenfranchised aspiring to the same high resource and ecological footprint, luxury lifestyle
- Look at the culture industry of sports, entertainment, movies, music, TV, etc. and of business in general. The leaders of these and ALL fields are celebrated as heros and they all reward themselves with an ultra-high carbon intensity, luxury lifestyle.
- Unless we do more than simply demonize the current set of elites, and recognize the root cause and change the incentive structure itself, we will only ever deal with the symptom and not the problem, and continue to generate the next generation of elites
- The luxury lifestyle industry is a important role-player in the self-reinforcing feedback loop
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Our choice to fail over the last 30 years has brought us to this position. And a way out of that, a way out of the Marshall Plan, is to say we can have these negative emissions 00:34:42 I think we need to say that, okay that's one way out of it – if they work. Another way out of it is the Marshall Plan. And so we need to open that that dialogue up. but we've... in effect, I think the IAMs have closed that dialogue,. Which is one of the reasons, going back to... It would be interesting to see other parts of the world looking at this, because, I would have a guess, when we say 'that's not feasible', many people elsewhere in the world are saying 'well of course it's feasible, we've been doing... we've been living like that for years!'
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- Our choice to fail over the last 30 years has brought us to this position.
- And a way out of that, a way out of the Marshall Plan, is to say we can have these negative emissions
- I think we need to say that, okay that's one way out of it – if they work.
- Another way out of it is the Marshall Plan.
- And so we need to open that that dialogue up. but we've... in effect, I think the IAMs have closed that dialogue,.
- Which is one of the reasons, going back to... It would be interesting to see other parts of the world looking at this, because, I would have a guess,
- when we say 'that's not feasible', many people elsewhere in the world are saying 'well of course it's feasible, we've been doing... we've been living like that for years!'
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- In rebuttal to Johan's perspective on Negative Emissions Technologies (NETs),
- Kevin is addressing the issue of perspectival knowing, and
- its implications on what solutions we entertain as a global society.
- The example he cites is Negative Emissions Technologies (NETs) illustrates two major perspectives:
- Johan includes NETs as he see's that without them, the transition goes from manageable to unmanageable
- Kevin questions the inclusion of the NETs as potentially shutting down discussion about what Johan would consider an unmanageable situation
- Kevin brings up a valid point for inclusion of other voices, especially those indigenous ones who are still institutionally marginalized not only in economic and cultural spaces, but also academic and intellectual ones.
- The decolonization of academia takes on a concrete form here. Both the global and local south have lived under severe economic repression for centuries. Anderson's contention is that making do with less is something that billions of people have had to contend with for centuries as a social norm forced upon them by colonialist then post colonialist institutions.
- Inclusivity of a greater diversity of voices does play an important role in shaping the future direction of humanity.
- We should be having an open discussion about a Marshall plan and should not be afraid to go there.
- We had it in WWII, which, while more direct threat, is not as great as the threat of climate change on all life on earth in a slightly greater time scale.
- The global and local south has a lot to teach the global and local north. For this great transition of humanity to occur likely simultaneously requires
- radical amounts of resource transfer from the global / local north to the global / local south,and
- radical degrowth
- In rebuttal to Johan's perspective on Negative Emissions Technologies (NETs),
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Title: How Alive Is 1.5? Part One – A Small Budget, Shrinking Fast
Author: - Kevin Anderson - Dan Calverley
Key Messages - For a 50:50 chance of staying below 1.5°C, we’re using up the remaining carbon budget at around 1% every month. - Following current national emissions pledges (NDCs) to 2030 puts the temperature commitments within the Paris Agreement beyond reach. - Claims that 1.5°C is now inevitable also assign “well below 2°C” to the scrapheap. - An ‘outside chance’ of not exceeding 1.5°C remains viable, but ongoing fossil fuel use is rapidly undermining it. - The few credible pathways for an outside chance of 1.5°C are not being discussed. This is an active choice by policymakers and experts, who have largely dismissed equity-based social change.
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