Everyone's probably wrong
for - adjacency - everyone's probably wrong - Donald Hoffman - science says 0% about ultimate reality - See the recent Youtube podcast of Diary of a CEO - interview with Donald Hoffman, where - he consistently argues that all scientific models teach us 0% about ultimate reality - https://via.hypothes.is/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0vTZrZny6A
Patrick Harper's book, Dimmonic Reality, where there's fact and fiction, and then there's imagination
for - citation - book - Patrick Harpur - Daimonic Reality: A field guide to the otherworld - to - book Daimonic Reality: A field guide to the otherworld - Patrick Harpur - adjacency - realm between fact and fiction - Donald Hoffman interview - Deep Humanity - self / other gestalt - the Indyweb - physiosphere - symbolosphere - this is exactly the intetwingledness of - the subject and the object - consciousness and phenomenal reality - Deep Humanity - the individual / collective gestalt - the self / other gestalt - symbolosphere / physiosphere - to - Youtube - The Diary of a CEO - Donald Hoffman interview - https://hyp.is/go?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DW0vTZrZny6A&group=world - internet Archive - https://hyp.is/egkk-IvhEfCpxyM0mIOqLA/archive.org/details/daimonicrealityf0000harp - Patrick Harpur - book webpage - https://hyp.is/1iPUDovhEfC4PStyYJoYnQ/www.harpur.org/x1Daimonic.htm
what if we change the game and all of a sudden the spiritual theory gives us technologies that are impossible with a theory that says that spaceime is fundamental
for - comparison - spiritual vs material technologies - Donald Hoffman
consciousness is fundamental but I'm using it in some sense to build a new headset.
for - quote - building a new headset - Donald Hoffman - consciousness is fundamental but I'm using it in some sense to build a new headset
All one of us. Donald, we have a closing tradition on
for - meme - all over of us - Donald Hoffman
I'm using this logic as as to build spacetime. But I think it's going to give an even more powerful approach. I don't have to minimize some free energy principle. I I have a more direct computational way
for - future project - building a model to explain spacetime using Active Inference - Donald Hoffman - use Active Inference to minimise surprise using Markov chains - this model assumes consciousness is fundamental - this is going to be a model of intelligence based entirely from a model which takes consciousness as fundamental. - it goes back to game theory again. - back to the idea of a simulation - If you're able to create a piece of software that - is able to replicate and - is built on the fundamentals of consciousness. - Then it's potentially, it's going to think it's conscious
it's very intelligent to minimize surprise
for - explanation - why minimising surprise is a good definition of intelligence - Donald Hoffman - it's very intelligent to minimize surprise - I'm surprised all the time - I'm pretty stupid right, I don't understand the world very well - but if I'm NOT surprised, it's like I've got a really good model especially if I'm doing lots of stuff in the world and I'm almost never surprised - boy am I I'm really intelligent! - So, you can see why that's a really good principle for trying to build an AI, - not just finding correlations between everything, - but really something deeper.
that's sort of the the approach that Fristristen is taking to and his company is taking toward toward this. Um intelligence is somehow about minimizing surprise
for - paraphrase - Active Inference - Intelligence is about minimizing surprise - Donald Hoffman
Carl Fristen and a new company where they're using something called active inference
for - citation - Carl Friesten - Active Inference - chief by - Donald Hoffman
It's amazing what you can do with correlations but um they're not they're not truly intelligent
A answer - yes, interested in AI - they are not intelligent, just huge correlation machines - Donald Hoffman
I did my um my PhD research on list machines in the artificial intelligence lab at MIT
History - Donald Hoffman - PhD on Lisp AI - Marvin Minsky - MIT lab
do you think much about AI?
for - Q? - do you think much about AI? Donald Hoffman
I think that Buddha and Jesus and and Muhammad and and bunch of people were very very helpful avatars to help other avatars sort of wake up to their their true true nature
for - quote - religious avatars - Donald Hoffman - I think that - Buddha - Jesus - Muhammad and - a bunch of people - were very very helpful avatars to help other avatars wake up to their their true nature
No one's going to care. And does that mean that I'm I'm worthless? I'm pointless. I'm I'm meaningless. No,
for - adjacency - existential isolation - footprints in the sand - noone will care for us a thousand years from now - Milarepa - alone vs loneliness - Donald Hoffman - I've often thought about this on walks in nature - plants sit next to each other, - some just sprouting, - others in full, vibrant maturity, - some withering, - and others dead and decayed - life and death are juxtapositioned - A blade of grass may live and die without the rest of the world knowing anything about it - When a tree falls in the forest, does anybody hear? - To live a life embodying the sacred, it doesn't matter if no-one knows anything about you - and yet, in contrast, biology and psychology tells us e are social beings, INTERbeings by nature - How do we reconcile these opposites? - Milarepa - the yogi living in solitude mountain retreat - in a yogic song I wrote, there's a difference between being alone and loneliness - How do we flip the loneliness of existential isolation of being human - to the fullness of the boundless wisdomin the aloneness of one particular headset in this lifetime?
New meme - the fullness of being alone - the Fullness of Emptiness
for - youtube - Diary of a CEO - interview - Donald Hoffman - youtube - title - seeing true reality would kill us
summary - I really enjoyed this interview with Donald Hoffman and found it very enriching on menu levels - He articulates many of the same insights as well as questions I have encountered in my own life journey - I didn't realize he had suffered long Covid and almost died of heart failure due to it - His own personal encounter with death makes his interview even more poignant and makes him more human, as he has gone through the litmus test of life and death - I found that he shared many of the same concerns, insights and paradoxes I face as a living and dying human INTERbeCOMing journeying through life. -
the suffering comes from me forgetting who I am
for - example - poverty mentality - Donald Hoffman
I think a lot of my problems my stress a lot of my suffering is because I believe illusions to the extent that I believe that I need to become something at all need to be better than I am in any way
for - example - poverty mentality - Donald Hoffman
the heart of Christianity is the disbelievers have pinned you on a cross. They're killing you in the worst possible way. And you show them love
for - adjacency - heart of Christianity - shoe love to your abusers - Donald Hoffman
If if your religion is love and that's it and that's then that's how you act. You don't really need to add anything more to that. That's that's all you really need. Love your neighbor as yourself. You're done.
for - quote / key insight - If if your religion is love and that's it and that's then that's how you act, you don't really need to add anything more to that. - That's that's all you really need. Love your neighbor as yourself. You're done.
it's an awareness that can create all this in an instant and it can let it go.
for - adjacency - awareness creates - awareness destroys - change - life coexists with death each moment - Donald Hoffman - Interesting perspective - that awareness constructs this reality and destroys it (lets it go) - This emerged the association with another idea I've often thought of: - how each moment embodies both life and death - A new moment cannot arise - unless the previous moment is let go of
We will each die. That's incontrovertible. So any attachments I have to this world will cease. There's no doubt. The question is can I let go of the attachments now or will they only go for my cold dead hand?
for - quote / key insight - die before we die - Donald Hoffman - We will each die. That's incontrovertible. - So any attachments I have to this world will cease. - There's no doubt. - The question is can I let go of the attachments now - or will they only go for my cold dead hand?
if I can really let go of any theory of who I am, then I'll let go of any fear.
for - adjacency - letting go - of knowledge - of theories - Donald Hoffman - I've often felt as he does - it's a conundrum of letting go of that (knowledge) we've invested so heavily into - quote / key insight - letting go of theories of science and self - Donald Hoffman - Science is great, but don't believe any theory. <br /> - Theories are just tools. They're not the truth. - No scientific theory, my theories included, are the truth. - And so also is my theory about who I am not the truth. - So to really let go of any theory, if I can really let go of any theory of who I am, then I'll let go of any fear
The issue is then when I look at that fear response, can I look at it and accept it or do I identify with it? Do I identify with the fear response or can I step back and be the observer that watches the fear response?
for - key insight / quote - Do I identify with my fear or step back and be the observer that watches the fear response? - Donald Hoffman? - adjacency - calmness - in the face of death - fear of death - Donald Hoffman
t keeps you from just talking abstractly about this stuff and and and and being real about it is what do I really feel about it?
for - key insight - adjacency - fear - near death experience - experiential knowledge vs abstract knowledge - Donald Hoffman - He articulates a very important point, that many of us, are only partially there on the journey of journey of discovery - Belief only takes you part way there, - Embodiment is the real proof - We need to have the experience to be certain
It certainly let me see how tied I am to my body and the fear that I that I experienced.
for - comparison - emotional - vs intellectual - belief in the ideas - vs embodiment of the ideas - Donald Hoffman
At some point I realize that all my knowledge all possible scientific knowledge is 0% of reality. And do I really want to confine myself only to 0% of reality?
for - adjacency - science - spirituality - 0% of reality - Donald Hoffman
what the Bible is basically saying, love God with all your heart. That it's loving yourself. You are God. And loving your neighbor as yourself is just recognizing that your neighbor is yourself under a different avatar.
for - adjacency - Christian teaching - infinite intelligence - loving God - loving your neighbor - loving yourself - all the same - Donald Hoffman
the answer is you can know it, but but you know it when you let go of all concepts and you don't try. If you're trying to get there, then you don't see what you already are.
for - A Answer - you know it when you let go of all concepts and you don't try. If you're trying to get there, then you don't see what you already are. - Donald Hoffman
did someone or something create that one consciousness?
for - Q ? - Did someone create that consciousness? - Donald Hoffman
that's perhaps the only way the infinite can know itself is through an infinite number of perspectives. It it transcends any particular perspective
for - A Answer - the infinite knows itself though infinite number of perspectives - Donald Hoffman
through the lens of reality that you see the world and that you believe the world is what becomes the meaning of life
for - Q ? - What is the meaning of life - Donald Hoffman
they have to show explicitly scientifically how a conscious a specific conscious experience arises from a specific program
for - example - hard problem of consciousness - Simulation Theory - Donald Hoffman
consciousness has created the brain as an icon to describe how it's how it's creating this headset.
for - quote / key insight - consciousness has created the brain as an icon to describe how it's creating this headset - Donald Hoffman
I don't have a brain and you don't have a brain until we actually look inside and render a brain
for - adjacency - subjective vs objective reality - examining our most fundamental assumptions of reality, self and other Donald Hoffman - This is a difficult one for many people who reify objective reality to understand - It requires deep analysis and insight into our fundamental assumptions of how we employ anguage, learned while we were in our child development stage - Donald Hoffman is asking us to take that journey to uproot these most fundamental assumptions of self and other, long forgotten, but thoughtlessly projected into the present moment like an automaton
The reason to love your neighbor as yourself is because your neighbor is yourself just with a different headset.
for - key insight / quote - the reason to love your neighbor - Donald Hoffman - The reason to love your neighbor as yourself is because - your neighbor IS YOUR (TRUE) SELF, just with a different headset. - And the only reason we have problems is - we don't realize how incredible you are. - So you are that which is creating this VR simulation with all of its beauty, all of its complexity. - All the complexity is you and you're doing it effortlessly.
adjacency - infinite intelligence - hologram metaphor - your neighbor is your (true) self - Deep Humanity motto - Join together (instead of Join us) - face behind the mask - Reflecting on this, it occurred to me that the Deep Humanity motto of "Join together, NOT join me/us" is deeply connected to what is being discussed in this annotation. - The problem with "joining me" is that it reflects we are still stuck in the ego reification paradigm while "join together" reflects awareness that the boundless intelligence is the true face behind the mask of each different species and each different individual of each species
Jesus uh in Christianity in like Matthew 25 says you know I was hungry and you fed me. I was thirsty you gave me something to drink. I was a foreigner and you invited me in
for - adjacency - hologram metaphor - infinite intelligence - Jesus - Mathew 25 - Donald Hoffman - Interfaith - Ubuntu - I am because you are - I am you and you are me
This this one infinite intelligence whatever it is has decided I want to look at myself through the lens of a mosquito and now of the bumblebee and now of the the jewel beetle
for - adjacency - infinite intelligence - perspectival knowing - hologram - Donald Hoffman
All the egoic stuff that we do that causes all the problems in the world because you don't know who you are
for - key insight / quote - the reified ego is the root cause of all the problems in the world - we reify because we don't know who we REALLY are - Donald Hoffman - All the egoic stuff that we do causes all the problems in the world because - you don't know who you are. - You're creating this whole thing. - You're not a little player. - You're the inventor of this whole thing. - You have nothing to prove and - you don't need to be better than anybody else. - They're also master creators. - They're creating entire universes that they perceive as well. - And my own take on on this is that - you and I are really the same one reality - just looking at itself through two different headsets, - two different avatars and having a conversation. - And maybe that's what is required for this one infinite intelligence to sort of know itself.
if we actually understood that all of this that I'm seeing right now I'm making it up on the fly. This cup that I'm seeing, it only exists when I create it.
for - adjacency - constructed reality - umwelt - species perspectival knowing - misunderstanding - sensory signals - map and territory - Donald Hoffman - We have to be careful how we interpret his claim here, as it is often easily misunderstood. - He means that evolution itself, reality itself has constructed this unique set of sense organs, that creates a unique human umwelt in which - the sensory signals give us a very specific map of reality, NOT reality itself - In this way, our sensory signals construct a very unique map of reality, which is different from the way all other species construct their maps
if you want to understand the truth of who you are beyond just this headset description of you then you have to lay aside all concepts period and just know yourself by being yourself not by putting a concept between you and yourself.
for - quote - who you are beyond your headset - Donald Hoffman - If you want to understand the truth of who you are beyond just this headset description of you - then you have to - lay aside all concepts period and - just know yourself by being yourself, - not by putting a concept between you and yourself. - adjacency - headset - perspectival knowing - Donald Hoffman - unquestioned assumption of other perspectives - imputation - external observable proxy - to private, inner world - As I read Hoffman's use of the word "headset", it brought up some associations with the idea of "perspectival knowing" - There is the perspectival knowing of a species, - but also of the individual of a species - For humans, perspectival knowing must be contextualized within an imputation: - that other perspectives exist - in other words, that other private worlds exist - and ultimately, this is a widely accepted imputation of an inner private world - based upon public, external observable behavioral proxies - This imputation of the other is a fundamental imputation and assumption of the human condition which we all take for granted, - but because it is so foundational, never question
There is another way that you can appreciate that
for - adjacency - spirituality - science - silence of thoughts in meditation - descriptions of reality - map and territory - Donald Hoffman - nice adjacency - if our thoughts are dependent on and built upon inputs from our senses - and our senses only provide us with a map, and not the territory, - then thinking will only ever keep us in the map world
Almost all of us think of ourselves as an object in spaceime only here for a short amount of time and will soon die
for - quote - Almost all of us think of ourselves as an object in spacetime only here for a short amount of time and will soon die - Donald Hoffman When I say you transcend any scientific
So what does that mean? You're you're God. >> It means that whatever you are transcends any description
for - quote - you are God - Donald Hoffman - you are good - predictive text error - you are not good, you are God
there's not only not a theory of everything, the best theory we'll ever come up with is 0% of reality.
for - adjacency - theory of everything - 0% of reality - Donald Hoffman
What we experience and know is trivial compared to whatever reality is. Absolutely trivial. We know 0% of reality
for - quote - we know 0% of reality - Donald Hoffman
what we think is human appreciation of the deep truth of reality is just our little headset
for - quote - not truth, just a headset - Donald Hoffman
Darwin's theory says the probability is zero that any sensory system like eyes, ears, smell, touch, taste has ever been shaped to see any aspect of objective reality truly. So the probability is zero that you see any aspect of the truth. Period.
for - quote - probability of zero that sensory organs are designed to help us see objective reality - Donald Hoffman
I've published some papers
for - find - Donald Hoffman papers
our sensory systems on Darwin's theory were not shaped to show us the truth. They were shaped to keep you alive long enough to reproduce successfully. Period. That's all Dharm's theory actually says
for - quote - Evolution shapes us not for truth, but to successfully reproduce - Donald Hoffman
the conjunction of those two claims the properties exist even when they're not perceived even when they're not measured and they have influences that propagate no faster 00:06:57 than the speed of light that's local realism and local realism is false
you accidentally presumed reality is not made of information but is instead made of some substance that behaves like information and can be describable by 01:25:58 information you philosophically decided that matter energy space or time are distinctly not information because you accepted the deduction that we're unlikely to be in the one material or 01:26:12 real reality that runs the simulation so you defaulted to a materialism philosophy without even thinking about it
good observation, that's why I have always felt strange about the simulation hypothesis. If it's a simulation, it automatically assumes, there is something which is real and not a simulation.
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