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  1. Oct 2020
    1. https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WikiCite-2020-Research-output-items

      This pad assists with collaborative note-taking for the "Research output items" session at WikiCite 2020, as per https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite/2020_Virtual_conference#Research_output_items .

      YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us_yYR6tAUY

      It is public and does not require a login - just start typing below to note down your observations, questions or comments regarding any of the contributions during the session.


      Daniel Mietchen

      • A quote that struck me -> We are on the verge of moving from "the age of information" to "the age of verification". #wikipedia #wikicite #wikicite2020

      • Diversity

        • of WikiCite 2020 speakers
        • of WikiCite 2020 session formats
        • of WikiCite contributors
        • of languages covered by WikiCite
        • of topics covered by WikiCite
        • ...
      • Research outputs: anyone interested in starting some data modeling for early research outcomes?

        • For instance, I have looked into Jupyter notebooks and how they are used across the Wikimedia ecosystem http://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.4031806
        • In one of my non-wiki volunteering roles, I am editing a journal that promotes the sharing of research across all stages of the research cycle, e.g. research ideas, grant proposals (funded or not), data management plans, posters, policy briefs etc., plus the usual research and review articles
      • Disaster response & mitigation

        • what can WikiCite do to better prepare for ongoing and future disasters and their information needs?
        • recent workshop: Wikimedia in disaster contexts. http://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.4105179
      • Scholia as a role model for exposing / exploring / learning & teaching Linked Open Data?
      • WikiCite roadmap & roadblocks

      I wonder what relations are there between The Research Ideas and Outcomes journal https://riojournal.com/ and WikiCite. If there are none, maybe it is an interface to increase diversity of representation of different research outputs... I think we are friendly fellow travelers :) but no direct overlap I know of

      With organisation and government publications they are not hosted in a stable way - often just published online. How does the verifiability issue work if we have lots of broken links. Any thoughts on how to deal with this? the Internet Archive is auto-archiving links that are put in English Wikipedia via bot... perhaps this bot's scope could be expanded (but this also works for web publications) If Australian: The Analysis & Policy Observatory hosts copies of a lot of this grey literature, and we have WD properties to link them directly as references: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7869, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7870. Are APO records in wikidata now? I'm not sure what this question means. They have millions of documents. We do not have an index of them, but you could make some items about individual reports if you consider them important. I haven't investigated a bulk upload. Neither property is well populated so far.

      I know that you have an associtaion with a PLOS journal that publishes wikipedia-style articles that can be copied over to WP. How did you set that up? Did you contact them or did they contact you?

      Tools - I keep getting recommended to use SourceMD but the new version doesn't work and the documentation is - well, I haven't found it! Not to whinge, but how do we make robust workflows that we can share with others when we can't be sure that tools will still be working in the future? (User:DrThneed) (Thank you, it helps to understand the history. DrThneed)


      Margaret Donald

      Margaret's presentation - does Margaret attempt to disambiguate the authors while she works on these citations? OpenRefine seems to be a worthy tool for this, is there a reason she doesn't use this before upload? (User:Ambrosia10 / Siobhan Leachman) As Margaret seem to, I find the Author Disambiguator even better than OpenRefine for this (especially when I know their research well). But if I had a lot of corroborating columns about the author, then I would try OR. (99of9) I've been wondering myself at what point with data is it worth reconciling authors in OpenRefine rather than adding as author strings and then having to individually disambiguate with Author Disambiguator? I suspect that reconciling in OpenRefine might work well when you are dealing with works with only a couple of authors and you are working on a research group or institution where you are familiar with most of the authors. (User:DrThneed)

      Where is Liam writing? I can't see his questions.

      • Me either.
      • Ah, it was a comment he sent in the private chat inside streamyard

      Amanda Lawrence

      Q: What's wrong with the Wikidata definition of "discussion paper" (currenty "pre-review academic work published for community comments during open peer review")? Sorry I didn't see you'd added the definition. So my problem is that a discussion paper is not necessary pre-review, or academic work or subject to peer review. Q: Are all of these vocabularies set up as properties in WD? Q: Has the APO term taxonomy changed? The link we had to "climate change" now returns a 404: https://apo.org.au/taxonomy/term/20177 http://web.archive.org/web/20191031173118/https://apo.org.au/taxonomy/term/20177 https://apo.org.au/search-apo/%22climate%20change%22?apo-facets%5B0%5D=subject%3A52376

      Wow! Appalling that the Finch Report is so hard to find. Can Wikimedia cache objects like this? (User:Petermr) Probably not, becasue copyright I assume it's Crown copyright - can't remember what that allows . ("The default licence for most Crown copyright and Crown database right information is the Open Government Licence.") If that applies, a PDF could go on Commons, and it could be transcribed in Wikisource apparantly a working group of a consortium https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24400530/ copyright too hard as no clear statement, and original link to full report has rotted http://www.researchinfonet.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Finch-Group-report-FINAL-VERSION.pdf the executive summary has an "Open Access" graphic, but has no licence statement sigh here is the IA version https://web.archive.org/web/20120725031811/http://www.researchinfonet.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Finch-Group-report-FINAL-VERSION.pdf it has CC-BY on it but no version. i would upload that to commons, but expect a question. it was early in OGL days. if it gets deleted, they will upload a local copy at wikisource. This has been on Commons since January 2014! - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Finch_Group_report.pdf - Troubling that it didn't show up in any of our searches. Now linked to the Wikidata item: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19028392 And on Wikisource! https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Accessibility,_sustainability,_excellence:_how_to_expand_access_to_research_publications very nice, need some linking at TOC rather than the whole text in one. and link to wikidata Yes, and a header template, in which the search-friendly phrase "Finch Report" can be included. It's late here in the UK; I'll do it tomorrow if none of the AU/NZ crowd beat me to it ;-) How would we go about setting up a working group to work through the issues with grey literature modelling and importing raised by Amanda?

      Set up a sub-page of the WikiCite related project at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData - then announce it on the main project talk page, social media with #WikiCite hashtag, and on the WikiCite mailing list, etc.

      Thomas Shafee

      WikiJournal links

      https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_of_Science/Potential_upcoming_articles https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_of_Science/Volume_3_Issue_1 Example: https://doi.org/10.15347/WJM/2020.002 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q96317242

      STARDIT links

      Mapping: https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/STARDIT/form_mapping

      Example1: https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-54058/v1 https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/STARDIT/Involving_ASPREE-XT_participants_in_co-_design_of_a_future_multi-generational_cohort_study http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q98539361

      Example2: https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-62242/v1 https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/STARDIT/Involving_People_Affected_by_a_Rare_Condition_in_Shaping_Future_Genomic_Research https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q100403236

      Open Qs:

      For overall structure when is it best to:

      • Enrich the Wikidata item for the activity (e.g. Q98539361)?
      • Create a separate Wikidata item for the report (e.g. Q98539361)?

      For every aspect:

      • How much of the free text can be made structured?
      • What’s the best way to structure each data type?
      • Can some freetext be stored in Wikidata (similar to P1683 quotation)?

      What's the best way to input data by users with no Wikidata experience! Pageforms -> local wikibase in wikispore -> Wikidata -> back to wikispore?

      Dark-side links:

      https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Source_MetaData#Predatory_publishers https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Source_MetaData#Retracted_articles

      Example: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q61957492 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q29030043 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q58419365

      Q: Are reviewers ever shy about showing ignorance in their questioning if they know their comments are open? some studies suggest it can be harder to get a reviewr to agree, but the reviews themselves appear to be as, or more thorough.

      Exciting that you see methodology as metadata. I agree. This is something where instruments, software, reagents are all very well identifiable in running text. Some have RRIDs. Those could be added as properties (User:petermr)

      Thomas do you think people will put the time into creating the extra data about their work? Some authors are already keen, but for most, it would have to be a journal requirement. Currnelty, many require declaration of author roles (but I've never seen that info structured, just in the acknowledgements section). there's also precedent for methodology from www.cell.com/star-methods which some chemistry journals require, which are quite structured and incredibly thorough. For addtional contributors, they're often included in the acknowledgements as freee text, so it might not be too difficult to shift people's habits towards filling in a simple dropdown form.


      Toby Hudson

      Wikidata:Entity Explosion https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Entity_Explosion

      There is an arachnaphobe!


      Open discussion

      The wishlist/major gaps in WikiCite activity

      • WikiCite as dataset for citations in Wikipedia -- as long as they are formatted for human reading and linking from Wikipedia and not sending readers around the traps

      Wishing journals would pay attention to their data in Wikidata in the way they do to where they are indexed.

      • Is there an option in WIkidata for indicating which indexing services an journal is indexed by?
    1. Transcripcion en español

      [Música] si no, ella se lleva. Te explicaré lo que vamos a hacer. Vamos a agregar algunos datos verificables a las becarias de la Royal Society of Edinburgh ahora que la Royal Society of Edinburgh está subiendo desde 1783 en esa vez ha tenido algo así como 4.000 becarios, pero solo 242 becarios se describen en su sitio web como mujeres 242 no muchísimas en los datos de la wiki, solo hay 28 mujeres que tienen la declaración de beca otorgada por la Royal Society of Edinburgh, solo 28 del total número de 242, así que a los datos de la wiki le falta un truco aquí y vamos a solucionar este problema.Vamos a entregar premios hoy.Vamos a entregar la declaración de beca otorgada por la Royal Society of Edinburgh a tantas mujeres diferentes. en los datos de wiki como sea posible, así que lo que hemos hecho es que hemos creado lotes de cinco y cada persona va a trabajar en un lote de cinco, así que si le muestro cómo funciona esto, haga clic en el enlace de la hoja de cálculo de lotes aquí verás que hay 44 lotes ahora Voy a trabajar desde el lote número uno solo como una demostración, así que creo que tal vez asignemos lotes, así que tal vez le dé a Gavin el lote número dos y así cada uno tendrá un lote para trabajar y yo le mostraré cómo se ve el lote uno si simplemente hago clic en el lote número uno, verá que hay cinco nombres en esta hoja de cálculo cuatro de estos nombres tienen un elemento de datos wiki ya más abajo, un quinto no tiene ningún elemento de datos wiki ahora. He tomado toda esta información de una fuente creíble y verá que la tercera columna lo vincula a la página de la Royal Society of Edinburgh porque describe cuándo fueron elegidos, un miembro de la Royal Society of Edinburgh ofrece una pequeña descripción y tenemos un enlace URL que podemos usar como referencia, por lo que estamos agregando datos verificables a los datos de la wiki, así que si vuelvo a mi hoja, cómo funciona esto es si copio este enlace de la hoja de cálculo y recuerdo que ella fue elegida en 2017 Puedo crear esta declaración manualmente en los datos de la wiki haciendo clic en l tinta en la primera columna, así que aquí vamos, si hago clic en este primer enlace, la cola cinco tres seis uno siete dos tres me lleva a la página de Alishan geo Looney y para agregar una declaración a los datos de la wiki, solo voy a bajar la página para ver si el premio recibido ya existe en su lista de declaraciones, ahora sí, ya tiene esa declaración allí, si paso el cursor sobre ella, dirás que es P 166, que es la propiedad en la que estaban interesados ​​hoy para agregar otro valor a este particular. declaración Simplemente hago clic en este botón Agregar ahora si no lo hubiera hecho, imaginemos por un momento que no tenía esa declaración en la página del elemento de datos de la wiki, lo que haría es seguir desplazándome hacia abajo y cuando llegue al final o antes de la sección de identificador, verá este botón Agregar aquí, así que si hago clic en Agregar y escribo premio recibido y esa es la descripción que nos interesa, haría clic en eso y luego necesitamos un valor y el valor era interesado es un miembro de la Royal Society ahora tenga cuidado con esto s punto porque hay otra Royal Society y no queremos confundir a los dos, lo que nos interesa es la Royal Society of Edinburgh, así que esa sería la propiedad que tendría el valor, pero mientras estemos aquí podemos también agregue un calificador al mismo tiempo agregue un calificador cuando fue elegida ahora el calificador es un punto en el tiempo y el año está en la hoja de cálculo fue 2017, así que ahí vamos, así que hay valor de propiedad para la propiedad un calificador sobre cuándo fue elegida lo único que nos falta ahora es la referencia de dónde vino esta información y verá que hay este botón aquí agregar referencia para que pueda hacer clic en eso y la referencia también requiere una propiedad y la que nos interesa es la URL de referencia y luego puedo poner la URL y pegarla para que haya alrededor de una, dos, tres, cuatro, cinco, seis cosas que podrías poner que incluirían datos verificables atribuibles y le darían a esta dama muy agradable un premio que se merece, así crédito donde el crédito es debido y usted puedo hacer eso para el primer FIR, no para los nombres en su lista, el quinto es una actividad de extensión y puedo hacer una demostración de eso ahora, pero ¿hay alguna pregunta sobre ese profesional? Se detalla en su hoja en las secciones azul y roja paso a paso. paso, así que espero que puedas hacer el primero de la red para los nombres, cualquier pregunta en este punto o si parece estar bien no está bien um ahora mencioné que ella ya recibió el premio, así que no voy a llenar eso en Voy a poner toda esa información en ese bit, así que aquí es donde voy a ponerla y verán que esta vez no necesito poner la propiedad, pero puedo poner a un compañero del Royal A la sociedad de Edimburgo le gusta agregar el punto calificador en el tiempo.Creo que creo que dice en la hoja el punto del tiempo, tenga cuidado con eso, también debe ser un punto en el tiempo y 2017 tenía una referencia de URL de referencia pegada y luego puedo presionar regresar o Puedo hacer clic en el botón Guardar, así que simplemente haré clic en Guardar ahora para volver a mi hoja. Puedo hacer los otros tres

    1. WikiCite 2020: Organización del conocimiento y datos bibliográficos

      https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wissensorganisation_und_Bibliographische_Daten

      Short link to this etherpad: https://w.wiki/iyh

      Welcome to the WMF etherpad installation. Please keep in mind all current as well as past content in any pad is public. Removing content from a pad does not mean it is deleted. Keep in mind as well that there is no guarantee that a pad's contents will always be available. A pad may be corrupted, deleted or similar. Please keep a copy of important data somewhere else as well

      Scope: Knowledge Organization, identifier mappings, bibliographic data, Zotero Session hosts: Eva Seidlmayer & Jakob Voß

      Watch on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3LtGMqHrZU Watch on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Wikicite/status/1321028896205066240?s=20

      💡10:00 UTC =11:00 CET Floating classifications - Knowledge Organization Systems in past, present and future Andrea Scharnhorst, Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences Session summary: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite/2020_Virtual_conference/Floating_classifications_-_Knowledge_Organization_Systems_in_past,_present_and_future https://www.slideshare.net/AndreaScharnhorst/floating-classifications-knowledge-organization-systems-in-past-present-and-future

      MAP https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Design-vs-Emergence-Visualisation-of-Knowledge-Orders-Akdag-et-al-2011b_fig4_273439193

      information is like the "stone in the stone age" - so information is power. what is more powerfull: shaping the order/classifications of information or "own" information? Or does it goes together/ is it the same? what would be a democratic way of information-power?

      decimal classification: order all the knowledge of the world" - this is very ambitious ...or arrogant. -> can any classification claim to last forever? order of knowledge must always be in evolution! could an "evoluting classification" as Wikipedia last forever? when is a concept completely outdated? Or is everything basically the same?

      Question Magnus Sälgö: During yesterdays session it was shown that Parlament documents from Sweden is uploaded and they start looking into add Main Topics etc,. The vision I see is find all parliament decisions in Europe about AI my question is how should we do this? Any standards? We have seen Eurovoc but doint know if its the way forward,,, Any good further reading in this area?

      What about information order/ approaches from other parts of the world? what can we learn about organizing information from Asia or Afrika for example?

      💡11:00 UTC =12:00 CET Wikidata-Normdatenverknüpfung mit Cocoda Jakob Voß, Verbundzentrale des GBV

      Question is there a forum were I can ask questions about Cocoda? I am looking into adding occupation codes to Wikidata and maybe this is a good tool https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262906

      Question is a presentation like this available in English

      • We are planning to create a screencast in English specifically about Wikidata mapping.

      Question: Who is the main envisioned user/collaborator in Cocoda? Bibliothekklassifikationsmapping

      Question: on which basis did you make the selection which classifications to use? Why not UDC? Der Summary is offen, und wir arbeiten an einer LD version, ich schicke Dir Details

      • Lizenz/Konvertierung

      Question: once the mappings are in place what will be able to do better in wikidata? in other words what is your vision? for retrieval also linking to library content automatically?

      Frage: Wo würde man am Besten Indirektionen Mappings aufgelöst? Z.B. wenn es ein Mapping von BK auf RVK gibt und von dort auf Wikidata, aber das direkte Mapping BK auf Wikidata fehlt.

      was sind die zukunftspläne?

      • Wir haben viele Ideen, wie man unsere Tools verbessern/erweitern kann, aber erstmal ist der Plan, dass unsere Tools und Infrastruktur im deutschen Bibliothekswesen aktiv genutzt wird, beispielsweise durch Integration unserer Mappings im K10plus-Katalog.
      • Was Features angeht, nehmen wir gerne Hilfe entgegen, es ist alles offen zugängig auf GitHub!

      Question: wie geht ihr mit versionen um, die Klassifikationen veraenderen ja alle ueber der Zeit gebt Ihr die version irgendwo an? bei der UDC ist das ein grosses Problem

      • Kurze antwort: wir haben das Problem auf später verschoben

      💡11:20 UTC=12:20 CET Katalogisierung mit Zotero in Wikidata (Zotkat) Philipp Zumstein, Universitätsbibliothek Mannheim

      • Wie wird vermieden, dass in Wikidata Duplikate eingetragen werden? +1 Hat sich erledigt, wurde im Vortrag erkärt
      • P1433 - published in - braucht wohl bessere Daten in Zotero, was die Zeitschrift selbst betrifft? +1 alles klar, hat sich erledigt!
      • Infos zum Open Access oder direkte Verlinkung zum Dokument, wären ja praktisch. +1 Volltext verfügbar heißt aber noch nicht Open Access - daher evt. noch Statements fürs Copyright ergänzen, wenn zB Rechte-Info in Zotero angegeben?
      • Könnte nicht auch direkt aus Zotero in Wikidata gespeichert werden statt dass extra QuickStatements aufgerufen werden muss?
      • In Zotero werden ja auch oft Screenshots gespeichert, könnte man die auch gleich mit hochladen? oder die eigenen Notizen? klar, es ist fraglich, wen die eigenen Notizen interessieren, aber das ließe sich ja in Form/eine Anwendung (Q-ID "Kommentare"?) denken..
      • Werden die "Codeschnipsel" noch in Zotkat eingebaut so dass sie einfacher anzuwenden sind?
      • Das war nicht so richtig sehbar: die Autoren werden als author-strings angelegt oder werden die Autoren direkt mit den Autoren Q-IDs verknüpft? (aktuell: strings)
    1. En esta sesión daremos una introducción práctica a Wikidata y la creación, curación y extracción de datos estructurados sobre trabajos académicos, autores e instituciones (parte de la iniciativa WikiCite). Aprenderá sobre el modelo de datos de Wikidata y realizará sus primeras ediciones. Aprenderá cómo completar una entrada de Wikidata desde un DOI u ORCID y cómo recuperar y visualizar datos en SPARQL a través del Servicio de consultas de Wikidata. No se requieren conocimientos previos de Wikidata o proyectos de Wikimedia.