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  5. Nov 2013
    1. There are two universal, general gifts be-stowed by nature upon man, Reason and Speech; dialectic is the theory of the former, grammar and rhetoric of the latte

      Language is probably the greatest tool human kind has. Reasoning exists in many animals, but extensive communication networks and language is ours! Also, poor use of the word "Universal" here. If it was a universal gift, it would be for everyone and not just man.

  6. Oct 2013
    1. Who is such a fool as to think this wisdom?

      There is something to be said about taking the opposite side. In the sciences, there is an idea of falsifiablility. To make ones argument or studies better, they take the side of the other idea and try to prove it true instead. I don't think that's what's he's going for, but to discount taking up an idea that we disagree with/believe is false is advanced skepticism/devil's advocate

  7. Sep 2013
    1. However, neither class of teachers is in possession of a science by which they can make capable athletes or capable orators out of whomsoever they please

      I disagree with this to an extent. When it boils down to it, yes, it is the student who puts forth the effort or the will. However, a good teach can give the student the tools they need to succeed in sport or knowledge. No pressure, Professor Boyle.

    2. Let me ask you, however, not to pay any attention to what you have heard about me in the past from my would-be slanderers and calumniators

      A reminder of what was said above. Reaffirming the listener/reader to ignore the past and what was said and focus on what is being said. Repetition... good? and... oh no... what have I become?! Agreeing with the use of repeating?! BOYLE YOU'VE TAINTED ME

    3. Indeed no one may rely on the honesty of his life as a guarantee that he will be able to live securely in Athens; for the men who have chosen to neglect what is their own and to plot against what belongs to others do not keep their hands off citizens who live soberly and bring before you only those who do evil; on the contrary, they advertise their powers in their attacks upon men who are entirely innocent, and so get more money from those who are clearly guilty.

      I know this is going somewhere, Boyle. So please don't take this as a comment like hating repetition. Okay, we good? Good. So far this entire reading is nothing but Tu Quoque. I am sure Isocrates is going to eventually explain himself, but this is all the logical fallacy of using critique to critique. Don't yell at me!

    1. Help me then to draw out the conclusion which follows from our admissions; for it is good to repeat and review what is good twice and thrice over, as they sa

      Repetition. It's importance to learning, seems central. He pulls Callicles in, tries to make him form the conclusions and feigns ignorance.

    2. Then not only custom but nature also affirms that to do is more disgraceful than to suffer injustice, and that justice is equality; so that you seem to have been wrong in your former assertion, when accusing me you said that nature and custom are opposed, and that I, knowing this, was dishonestly playing between them, appealing to custom when the argument is about nature, and to nature when the argument is about custom

      Proving the same point from many different angles. Repetition.

    3. And the same, Gorgias, is true of the other arts:—all of them treat of discourse concerning the subjects with which they severally have to do.

      I know Boyle said the repetition is used for effect, but that doesn't work for me. I find it as rambling, and I start losing interest in what is said because I want to further the discussion. One could argue it is a lack of patience on my part, but I see it as "shit or get off the pot." Examples are not explanations. I know, I know... I am a stick in the mud