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  1. Sep 2023
    1. Reviewer #4 (Public Review):

      This manuscript covers an important topic of gender biases in the authorship of scientific publications. Specifically, it investigates potential mechanisms behind these biases, using a solid approach, based on a survey of researchers.

      Main strengths

      The topic of the MS is very relevant given that across sciences/academia representation of genders is uneven, and identified as concerning. To change this, we need to have evidence on what mechanisms cause this pattern. Given that promotion and merit in academia are still largely based on the number of publications and impact factor, one part of the gap likely originates from differences in publication rates of women compared to men.

      Women are underrepresented compared to men in journals with high impact factor. While previous work has detected this gap, as well as some potential mechanisms, the current MS provides strong evidence, based on a survey of close to 5000 authors, that this gap might be due to lower submission rates of women compared to men, rather than the rejection rates. The data analysis is appropriate to address the main research aims. The results interestingly show that there is no gender bias in rejection rates (desk rejection or overall) in three high-impact journals (Science, Nature, PNAS). However, submission rates are lower for women compared to men, indicating that gender biases might act through this pathway. The survey also showed that women are more likely to rate their work as not groundbreaking, and be advised not to submit to prestigious journals

      With these results, the MS has the potential to inform actions to reduce gender bias in publishing, and actions to include other forms of measuring scientific impact and merit.

      Main weakness and suggestions for improvement

      1) The main message/further actions: I feel that the MS fails to sufficiently emphasise the need for a different evaluation system for researchers (and their research). While we might act to support women to submit more to high-impact journals, we could also (and several initiatives do this) consider a broader spectrum of merits (e.g. see https://coara.eu/ ). Thus, I suggest more space to discuss this route in the Discussion. Also, I would suggest changing the terms that imply that prestigious journals have a better quality of research or the highest scientific impact (line 40: journals of the highest scientific impact) with terms that actually state what we definitely know (i.e. that they have the highest impact factor). And think this could broaden the impact of the MS

      2) Methods: while methods are all sound, in places it is difficult to understand what has been done or measured. For example, only quite late (as far as I can find, it's in the supplement) we learn the type of authorship considered in the MS is the corresponding authorship. This information should be clear from the very start (including the Abstract).

      Second, I am unclear about the question on the perceived quality of research work. Was this quality defined for researchers, as quality can mean different things (e.g. how robust their set-up was, how important their research question was)? If researchers have different definitions of what quality means, this can cause additional heterogeneity in responses. Given that the survey cannot be repeated now, maybe this can be discussed as a limitation.

      I was surprised to see that discipline was considered as a moderator for some of the analyses but not for the main analysis on the acceptance and rejection rates.

      I was also suppressed not to see publication charges as one of the reasons asked for not submitting to selected journals. Low and middle-income countries often have more women in science but are also less likely to support high publication charges.

      Finally, academic rank was asked of respondents but was not taken as a moderator.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> This paper addresses the mechanisms positioning microtubule asters in Drosophila explants. Taking advantage of a genetic mutant, blocking the cell cycle in early embryos, the authors generate embryos with centrosomes detached from nuclei and then study the positioning mechanisms of such asters in explants. They conclude that asters interact via pushing forces. While this is an artificial system, understanding the mechanics of asters positioning, in particular, whether forces are pushing or pulling is an important one.

      Strengths:<br /> The major strength of this paper is the series of laser cutting experiments supporting that asters position via pushing forces acting both on the boundary (see below for a relevant comment) and between asters. The combination of imaging, data analysis and mathematical modeling is also powerful.

      Weaknesses:<br /> This paper has weaknesses, mainly in the presentation but also in the quality of the data which do not always support the conclusions satisfactorily (this might in part be a presentation issue).

      In Figure 2, it is difficult for me to understand what is being tracked. I believe that the authors track the yolk granules (visible as large green blobs) and not lipid droplets. There is some confusion between the text, legends and methods so I could not tell. If the authors are tracking yolk granules as a proxy for hydrodynamics flows it seems appropriate to cite previous papers that have used and verified these methods. More notably, this figure is somewhat disconnected with the rest of the paper. I find the analysis interesting in principle but would urge the authors to propose some interpretation of the experiments in the context of their big-picture message. At this point, I cannot understand what the Figure adds.

      In Figure 3, it is not surprising that the aster-aster interactions are different from interactions with the boundary which is likely more rigid. It is also hard to understand why the force and thus velocity should scale as microtubule length. This Figure should be better conceptualized. I think that it becomes clear at the end of the paper that the authors are trying to derive an effective potential to use in a mathematical model in Figure 5 to test their hypotheses. I think that should be told from the start, so a reader understands why these experiments are being shown.

      The experiments in Figure 4 are very nice in supporting a pushing model. However, it would help if the authors could speculate what the single aster is pushing against in this experiment. The experiments reported in Figure 1 seemed to suggest that the aster mainly pushed against the boundary. In the experiments in Figure 4 do the individual asters touch the boundary on both sides? I think that readers need more information on what the extract looks like for those experiments.

      Figure 4F could use some statistics. I doubt that the acceleration in the pink curves would be significant. I believe that the deceleration is and that is probably the most crucial result. Since the authors present only 3 asters pairs it is important to be sure that these conclusions are solid.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The aster, consisting of microtubules, plays important roles in spindle positioning and the determination of the cleavage site in animals. The mechanics of aster movement and positioning have been extensively studied in several cell types. However, there is no unified biophysical model, as different mechanisms appear to predominate in different model systems. In the present manuscript, the authors studied aster positioning mechanics in the Drosophila syncytial embryo, in which short-ranged aster repulsion generates a separation force. Taking advantage of the ex vivo system developed by the group and the fly gnu mutant, in which the nuclear number can be minimized, the authors performed time-lapse observations of single asters and multiple asters in the explant. The observed aster dynamics were interpreted by building a mathematical model dealing with forces. They found that aster dissociation from the boundary depends on the microtubule pushing force. Additionally, laser ablation targeting two separating asters showed that aster-aster separation is also mediated by the microtubule pushing force. Furthermore, they built a simulation model based on the experimental results, which reproduced aster movement in the explant under various conditions. Notably, the actual aster dynamics were best reproduced in the model by including a short-ranged inhibitory term when asters are close to the boundary or each other.

      Strengths:<br /> This study reveals a unique aster positioning mechanics in the syncytial embryo explant, which leads to an understanding of the mechanism underlying the positioning of multiple asters associated with nuclei in the embryo. The use of explants enabled accurate measurement of aster motility and, therefore, the construction of a quantitative model. This is a notable achievement.

      Weaknesses:<br /> The main conclusion that aster repulsion predominates in this system has already been drawn by the same authors in their recent study (de-Carvalho et al., Development, 2022). As the present work provides additional support to the previous study using different experimental system, the authors should emphasize that the present manuscripts adds to it (but the conceptual novelty is limited). The molecular mechanisms underlying aster repulsion remain unexplored since the authors were unable to identify specific factor(s) responsible for aster repulsion in the explant.

      Specific suggestions:<br /> Microtubules should be visualized more clearly (either in live or fixed samples). This is particularly important in Figure 4E and Video 4 (laser ablation experiment to create asymmetric asters).

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      The authors use a previously established reporter comprising a slow- and a fast-folding fluorescent protein fused to a randomly-generated library of penta-peptides at its amino-terminus and a signal sequence for import into the endoplasmic reticulum (ER). They then determine the stability of these constructs in a high throughput FACS-sorting procedure and identify a set of peptides that route the construct to proteasomal degradation. Increasing the copy number of one of these peptides further decreases the stability of the construct. This polypeptide resembles a "degron" for ER proteins, because it also targets other ER proteins with different topological and folding properties for degradation. It only works when placed at the amino-terminus of a protein and utilizes components of the Hrd1 ubiquitin ligase complex, a well-established quality control ubiquitin ligase in the ER membrane. Importantly, the degron also targets ER-proteins in mammalian cells.

      The authors convincingly show that fusion of their newly identified degron to the amino terminus of ER-resident proteins with different topology suffices to target them for proteasomal degradation. The data for this are well-founded and contain appropriate controls. While technically sound, the study does only give superficial information on general properties of the degron and its recognition by cellular factors. Further simple experiments would have addressed a number of important points. The authors only provide data about the composition of the identified amino acid sections from the high-throughput approach and the statistical preference for certain amino acids at individual positions. They do not study degron composition experimentally by substituting individual amino acids with other residues and analyzing protein stability. Increasing the numbers of the initially identified degron pentamer increases substrate turnover, but the basis for this remains unclear. Each copy may be actively involved in better recognition, elongation of the degron may facilitate accessibility by recognition factors or multiplying the short amino acid stretch may generate new signatures at the amino-terminus that are more readily recognized by a quality control machinery. Consequently, this study does not allow conclusions to be drawn about general properties of degron composition and/or structure. The degron also functions with cytoplasmic proteins, suggesting that similar characteristics of a polypeptide attract the attention of quality control systems also in other cellular compartments. However, the authors did not pursue this finding further, e.g. by identifying factors for degron recognition in the cytoplasm. It would have been particularly interesting to test whether the degron would initiate degradation when placed at cytoplasmically-exposed amino termini of membrane-bound ER proteins. Information on degron properties is required to better understand principles of substrate recognition by protein quality control pathways and to design constructs for targeting endogenous proteins via proteolysis targeting chimeras (PROTACs).

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> Sharninghausen et al use a generic screening platform to search for short (5 amino acid) degrons that function in the lumen of the endoplasmic reticulum (ER) of budding yeast. The screen did indeed identify a number of sequences which increased the rate of degradation of their test proteins. Although the effect of the single degron was rather modest the authors could show that by mutimerising the sequence (4x) they obtained degrons that functioned fairly efficiently. Further characterisation indicated that the degrons only functioned when placed at the N-terminus of the target protein and, were dependent on both the proteasome and the segregase Cdc48 (p97) for degradation. The authors also demonstrated that degradation was via the ERAD pathway.

      Strengths:<br /> In general, the data presented is supportive of the conclusions drawn and the authors have thus identified a sequence that can be appended onto other ER targeted proteins to mediate their degradation within the lumen of the ER. How useful this will be to the community remains to be seen.

      Weaknesses:<br /> While the observation that such mutimerised sequences can act as degrons is an interesting curiosity, it is not clear that such sequences function in vivo. In fact the DegV1 sequence used throughout the paper is not present in any yeast or fungal proteins and the fact that it has to be located at the N-terminus of the protein to induce degradation is at odds with the idea that proteins to be degraded need to be unfolded. Thus, the role of such sequences in vivo is questionable.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This study by Park et al. describes an interesting approach to disentangle gene-environment pathways to cognitive development and psychotic-like experiences (PLEs) in children. They have used data from the ABCD (Adolescent Brain Cognitive Development) study and have included phenotypes polygenic scores (PGS) of educational attainment (EA) and cognition, environmental exposure data, cognitive performance data and self-reported PLEs. The study has several strengths, including its large sample size, interesting approach and comprehensive statistical model,

      One remaining concern is the authors' conflation of PLEs and schizophrenia. They stated, for example, that it is necessary to adjust for schizophrenia PGS. Even though studies have found a statistical relationship between schizophrenia PGS and PLEs, this relationship is not very strong (although statistically significant) and other studies have found no relationship. Similarly, having PLEs increases the risk of developing psychosis, but that does not necessarily mean that this risk is substantial or specific. I think this needs more nuance in the manuscript and the term 'schizophrenia' should be used sparsely and very carefully as the paper has focused on PLEs.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This paper tried to assess the link between genetic and environmental factors on psychotic-like experiences, and the potential mediation through cognitive ability. This study was based on data from the ABCD cohort, including 6,602 children aged 9-10y. The authors report a mediating effect, suggesting that cognitive ability is a key mediating pathway in the link between several genetic and environmental (risk and protective) factors on PLEs.

      Strengths of the methods<br /> The authors use a wide range of validated (genetic, self- and parent-reported, as well as cognitive) measures in a large dataset with a 2-year follow-up period. The statistical methods have potential to address key limitations of previous research.

      Weaknesses of the methods<br /> The methodological advantage of the method (Integrated generalized structured component analysis, IGSCA) over the standard method (Structural equation modeling, SEM) is not fully clear.<br /> Not all methods are fully explained (how genetic components were derived; how cognition was assessed in Lee et al., 2018).<br /> Not the largest or most recent GWAS (Genome-wide association studies) were used to generate PGS.

      Strengths of the results<br /> The authors included a comprehensive array of analyses.

      Weaknesses of the results<br /> Some factor loadings presented in Figure 3 seem counterintuitive/inconsistent.<br /> Supplementary tables are difficult to assess. Unclear significance statement / p-values in Table 2.

      Appraisal<br /> The authors suggest that their findings provide evidence for policy reforms (e.g., targeting residential environment, family SES (social economic status), parenting, and schooling).

      Impact<br /> Immediate impact is limited given the short follow-up period (2y), possibly concerns for selection bias and attrition in the data, and some methodological concerns. The authors are transparent about most of these limitations.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> This Research Advance is an extension of this group's prior paper published in 2022 on the conserved roles of the Hippo pathway effector Yorkie in C. owczarzaki (PMID: 35659869). This species is an amoeba that holds an important phylogenetic position as a close relative of multicellular animals. The prior study used genome editing to delete the C. owczarzaki Yki (termed coYki) and found that Yki is not required for proliferation but instead regulates cell contractility and cell aggregation. In the current study, the authors wanted to address whether Hippo pathway kinases - coHippo (coHpo) and coWarts (coWts) - regulate coYki and whether they are dispensable for proliferation but instead regulate cell contractility and cell aggregation. They used genome editing to delete coHpo and coWts singly in C. owczarzaki. Both mutant strains had increased nuclear location of transfected coYki (tagged with Scarlet), suggesting that Hippo kinase pathway regulation of Yki is conserved in this organism. Neither kinase is required for proliferation. Either kinase mutant strain had a significantly increased percentage of cells that were elongated, which was relatively rare in a control population. The incident of elongation could be enhanced in both kinase-mutant and in control cells when myosin inhibitors were added to the media. coHpo and coWts-mutant aggregates were more tightly packed than control cell aggregates, which they hypothesize is due to the increased contractility seen in kinase-mutant cells. They could reduce the density of packing in kinase-mutant aggregates when they treated the cells with myosin or F-actin inhibitors. To test whether the effects observed in kinase-mutant strains were due to increased Yki activation, they generated a coYki with four S to A substitutions (termed coYki4SA), which should produce a dominant-active Yki impervious to phosphorylation and hence inactivation by Hippo kinases. Control C. owczarzaki cells transfected with coYki4SA had increased cell density in aggregates and elongation in adherent cells. These results support their conclusions that coHpo and coWts regulate cell contractility and cell packing through coYki.

      Strengths:<br /> The major strengths of the paper include high quality data, robust analyses of the data, and a well-written manuscript. The combination of genome editing in C. owczarzaki, transfection of C. owczarzaki, and time-lapse movies of adherent cells generally support the conclusions (1) that control of cell density is an ancient function of the Hippo pathway; (2) that Hippo pathway control of cytoskeletal properties and contractile behavior underlie its regulation of cell density, and (3) that Hippo kinase control of Yki localization is likely an ancient function of the pathway.

      Weaknesses:<br /> There are only minor weaknesses. (1) Fig. 3C needs the "still" for the movie of control C. owczarzaki (in Movie S1). (2) The elongated cell shape is seen infrequently in control cells, and I wonder whether these events are transient inactivation of coHpo or coWts in these cells. Perhaps the authors could comment on this in the discussion. (3) Does C. owczarzaki normally aggregate or this is a lab-specific phenotype? For example, the slime mold Dictyostelium discoideum forms aggregates during its life cycle. Could some additional information about C. owczarzaki be added to the introduction?

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The study builds on the work of the Pan group and others which has described the existence of core Hippo pathway proteins in Capsaspora and, more recently, described a role for a Yorkie/YAP homologue in regulation of cell shape and actin, as opposed to proliferation. For this recent study, they developed genetic techniques to mutate genes in Capsaspora, and this technology has been leveraged again in this study. Using loss of genetic approaches, the authors find that loss of either of the two major kinases in the Hippo pathway core kinase cassette (Warts and Hippo) impact Capsaspora morphology and the actin cytoskeleton. This is phenocopied by overexpression of Capsaspora Yorkie/YAP. In addition, Capsaspora Yorkie/YAP accumulates in the nucleus of organisms lacking Warts or Hippo, as it does in metazoans. While these experiments are not overly surprising, they still provide important verification that core Hippo signaling events are conserved in Capsaspora.

      Subsequently, they show that Capsaspora lacking Warts or Hippo do not overproliferate, which contrasts with many studies in animals, particularly in epithelial tissues where loss of Warts or Hippo often causes overproliferation. Rather, the authors show that Capsaspora Warts and Hippo regulate cell morphology and actomyosin-dependent contractile behaviour. They speculate from these findings that Hippo signalling could regulate the density of Capsaspora when they grow in aggregates and draw parallels to the known role of the Hippo pathway in contact inhibition of mammalian cells grown in culture.

      Strengths:<br /> Together with their 2022 paper, this study paints an emerging picture that the ancestral function of the Hippo pathway is to regulate the actin cytoskeleton, not proliferation, which is a significant finding. This also suggests that the ability to control proliferation was something that the Hippo pathway was re-purposed to do at some stage during the evolution of metazoans. These findings are important for the Hippo field, and our understanding of cellular signalling and evolution more broadly.

      Weaknesses:<br /> Further biochemical and genetic experiments would allow the authors to more convincingly prove that core features of Hippo signalling are conserved in Capsaspora - e.g., that Capsaspora Hippo/MST activates Warts/LATS by phosphorylation and Warts/LATS represses Yorkie/YAP by phosphorylation hey serine residues. Additional genetic studies would also allow one to determine whether Capsaspora Yki/YAP controls actomyosin contractility by transcription (with the Scalloped/TEAD homologue) and/or by non-transcriptional mechanisms, as have been reported for Yki in Drosophila. Higher resolution imaging approaches such as electron microscopy would likely give further mechanistic insights into how Hpo, Wts and Yki modulate actomyosin contractility in Capsaspora.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      The authors present in this study the characterization of two mutant lines of the filasterean Capsaspora owczarzaki, a unicellular holozoan with a key phylogenetic position to understand multicellular development in animals. The present study is built on a previous work from the same research group, on the mutant of the orthologue of the Yorki gene in C. owczarzaki. By knocking out the two upstream kinases of the same pathway, coHpo-/- and coWts-/-, in single cell and aggregates of C. owkzarzaki, they now have mutated the entire pathway and in different cellular contexts.

      The authors obtain results in the same direction as the previous work, demonstrating that the Hippo pathway of the unicellular holozoan C. owczarzaki, is not involved in the control of cell proliferation but is related with cytoskeletal dynamics through the actin-myosin mechanism.

      The work carried out in this study is technically precise at all levels, molecular, cellular and microscopy. The reviewer here acknowledges how difficult is to work and develop tools and mutant lines in a non-model organism and therefore congratulates the authors in their efforts. The authors have done excellent work in this sense and all data presented seems to be solid.

      Nevertheless, some of the observations, in my opinion, should be further investigated before taking the conclusion that the Hippo pathway controls cell density and a contractile behavior in the C. owczarzaki. On the hand the authors claim as main conclusions what they have partially already claimed in the previous work (Phillips et al. eLife 2022;0:e77598).

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this manuscript, the authors aimed to provide information about the likely function of uncharacterised genes in fission yeast. The authors highlight the bias in the literature to well-studied genes/proteins and the fact that the functions of many proteins that are conserved from yeast to humans remain unknown. Initial functional characterisation could provide the impetus for researchers to dedicate time and resources to detailed investigations of protein function. The authors subject the fission yeast deletion set to a battery of perturbations (drug treatments etc) and measured the resultant colony size. In total, 131 conditions were analysed for nearly 3,500 mutants, representing a rich dataset. Clustering analysis was then used to identify common phenotype patterns and thereby infer protein functions using a "guilt by association approach. To assign potential GO terms to uncharacterised proteins, the authors developed a new computational approach (NET-FF) which combined two previous approaches, which they validated against curated annotations on the S. pombe database Pombase. Finally, the authors chose a group of genes which their analysis predicted to be involved in cellular ageing for experimental validation, cross-validating a priority unstudied novel gene (SPAC23C4.09c) to be involved in this process. Overall, the functional analysis performed in this manuscript is rigorous, thorough and incorporates some novel approaches leading to new insights and predicted protein functions. It will be an important resource for the fission yeast community.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This manuscript describes colony-growth phenotypes to measure the fitness of deletion mutants for 3509 non-essential S. pombe genes in 131 conditions. 3492 mutants, including 124 mutants of 'priority unstudied' proteins conserved in humans, providing varied functional clues.

      Phenotype-correlation networks provide evidence for the roles of poorly characterized proteins through guilt by association with known proteins. Gene Ontology (GO) terms were predicted using machine learning methods that take advantage of protein-network and protein-homology data.

      Integrated analyses produced 1,675 novel GO predictions for 783 genes, including 47 predictions for 23 priority unstudied proteins. Experimental validation for genes involved in cellular ageing were obtained.

      A method called NET-FF, which combines network embeddings and protein homology data to predict GO annotations, was developed. The authors demonstrate NET-FF predicts GO terms better than random and compare the information content of the predicted terms with the PomBase GO annotations. The phenotypic data was used to filter the GO annotation predictions made by NET-FF and then explore specific biological examples supported by both datasets

      This is a very impressive and rich resource of phenotypic data and it will be particularly useful for the S. pombe research community and generally useful for the functional characterization of highly conserved eukaryotic genes. Overall, the analysis is powerful and sound.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Fission yeast is an important model organism and studies on fission yeast have provided many key insights into the understanding of genes and biological pathways. However, even in such a well-studied model organism, there are still many genes without known functions.

      In this work, the authors took advantage of the availability of genome-wide fission yeast deletion mutants to systematically analyze the mutant phenotypes under 131 different conditions. This effort generated a genotype-phenotype dataset larger than the currently curated genotype-phenotype dataset, which is derived from studies over many decades by hundreds of fission yeast laboratories. The authors used the dataset to construct gene clusters that provide functional clues for many genes without previously known functions, including ones conserved in humans. This rich resource will surely be highly useful to the fission yeast community and beyond.

      In addition, the authors also used machine learning to generate functional predictions of fission yeast genes and yield novel understandings, which are validated by experimental analysis of new ageing-related genes.

      Overall, this study provides unprecedented and highly valuable resources for understanding fission yeast gene functions.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      In this paper, Jeong et al. investigate the prevalence and cause of TADs that are preserved in eukaryotic cells after cohesin depletion. The authors perform an extensive analysis of previously published Hi-C data, and find that roughly 15% of TADs are preserved in both mouse liver cells and in HCT-116 cells. They confirm previous findings that epigenetic mismatches across the boundaries of TADs can cause TAD preservation. However, the authors also find that not all preserved TADs can be explained this way. Jeong et al. provide an argument based on polymer simulations that "physical boundaries" in 3D structures provide an additional mechanism that can lead to TAD preservation. However, in its current form, we do not find the argumentation and evidence that leads to this claim to be fully compelling.

      Strengths:

      We appreciate the extensive statistical analysis performed by the authors on the extent to which TAD's are preserved; this does seem like a novel and valuable contribution to the field.

      Weaknesses:

      1. As the authors briefly note, the fact that compartmentalization due to epigenetic mismatches can cause TAD-like structures upon cohesin depletion has already been discussed in the literature; see for example Extended Data Figure 8 in (Schwarzer et al., 2017) or the simulation study (Nuebler et al., 2018). We are hence left with the impression that the novelty of this finding is somewhat overstated in this manuscript.<br /> 2. It is not quite clear what the authors conceptually mean by "physical boundaries" and how this could offer additional insight into preserved TADs. First, the authors use the CCM model to show that TAD boundaries correlate with peaks in the single cell boundary probability distribution of the model. This finding is consistent with previous reports that TAD-like structures are present in single cells, and that specific TAD boundaries only arise as a population average. The finding based on the CCM simulations hence seems to be that preserved TADs also arise as a population average in cohesin-depleted cells, but we do not follow what the term "physical boundaries" refers to in this context. The authors then use the Hi-C data to infer a maximum-entropy-based HIPPS model. They find that preserved TADs often have boundaries that correspond to peaks in the single cell boundary probabilities of the inferred model. The authors seem to imply that these peaks in the boundary probability correspond to "physical boundaries" that cause the preservation of TADs. This argument seems circular; the model is based on inferring interaction strengths between monomers, such that the model recreates the input Hi-C map. This means that the ensemble average of the model should have a TAD boundary where one is present in the input Hi-C data. A TAD boundary in the Hi-C data would then seem to imply a peak in the model's single-cell boundary probability. (The authors do display two examples where this is not the case in Fig.3h, but looking at these cases by eye, they do not seem to correspond to strong TAD boundaries.) "Physical boundaries" in the model are hence a consequence of the preserved TADs, rather than the other way around, as the authors seem to suggest. At the very least the boundary probability in the HIPPS model is not an independent statistic from the Hi-C map (on which their model is constrained), so we have concerns about using the physical boundaries idea to understand where some of the preserved TADs come from.

      References:<br /> Nuebler, J., Fudenberg, G., Imakaev, M., Abdennur, N., & Mirny, L. A. (2018). Chromatin organization by an interplay of loop extrusion and compartmental segregation. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 115(29), E6697-E6706. https://doi.org/10.1073/PNAS.1717730115/SUPPL_FILE/PNAS.1717730115.SAPP.PDF

      Schwarzer, W., Abdennur, N., Goloborodko, A., Pekowska, A., Fudenberg, G., Loe-Mie, Y., Fonseca, N. A., Huber, W., Haering, C. H., Mirny, L., & Spitz, F. (2017). Two independent modes of chromatin organization revealed by cohesin removal. Nature 2017 551:7678, 551(7678), 51-56. https://doi.org/10.1038/nature24281

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      Here Jeong et al., use a combination of theoretical and experimental approaches to define molecular contexts that support specific chromatin conformations. They seek to define features that are associated with TADs that are retained after cohesin depletion (the authors refer to these TADs as P-TADs). They were motivated by differences between single cell data, which suggest that some TADs can be maintained in the absence of cohesin, whereas ensemble HiC data suggest complete loss of TADs. By reananalyzing a number of HiC datasets from different cell types, the authors observe that in ensemble methods, a significant subset of TADs are retained. They observe that P-TADs are associated with mismatches in epigenetic state across TAD boundaries. They further observe that "physical boundaries" are associated with P-TAD maintenance. Their structure/simulation based approach appears to be a powerful means to generate 3D structures from ensemble HiC data, and provide chromosome conformations that mimic the data from single-cell based experiments. Their results also challenge current dogma in the field about epigenetic state being more related to compartment formation rather than TAD boundaries. Their analysis is particularly important because limited amounts of imaging data are presently available for defining chromosome structure at the single-molecule level, however, vast amounts of HiC and ChIP-seq data are available. By using HiC data to generate high quality simulated structural data, they overcome this limitation. Overall, this manuscript is important for understanding chromosome organization, particularly for contacts that do not require cohesin for their maintenance, and for understanding how different levels of chromosome organization may be interconnected. I cannot comment on the validity of the provided simulation methods and hope that another reviewer is qualified to do this.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      This manuscript presents a comprehensive investigation into the mechanisms that explain the presence of TADs (P-TADs) in cells where cohesin has been removed. In particular, to study TADs in wildtype and cohesin depleted cells, the authors use a combination of polymer simulations to predict whole chromosome structures de novo and from Hi-C data. Interestingly, they find that those TADs that survive cohesin removal contain a switch in epigenetic marks (from compartment A to B or B to A) at the boundary. Additionally, they find that the P-TADs are needed to retain enhancer-promoter and promoter-promoter interactions.

      Overall, the study is well-executed, and the evidence found provides interesting insights into genome folding and interpretations of conflicting results on the role of cohesin on TAD formation.

      To strengthen their claims, the authors should compare their de-novo prediction approach to their data-driven predictions at the single cell level.

    1. Joint Public Review:

      This paper by Castello-Serrano et al. addresses the role of lipid rafts in trafficking in the secretory pathway. By performing carefully controlled experiments with synthetic membrane proteins derived from the transmembrane region of LAT, the authors describe, model and quantify the importance of transmembrane domains in the kinetics of trafficking of a protein through the cell. Their data suggest affinity for ordered domains influences the kinetics of exit from the Golgi. Additional microscopy data suggest that lipid-driven partitioning might segregate Golgi membranes into domains. However, the relationship between the partitioning of the synthetic membrane proteins into ordered domains visualised ex vivo in GPMVs, and the domains in the TGN, remain at best correlative. Additional experiments that relate to the existence and nature of domains at the TGN are necessary to provide a direct connection between the phase partitioning capability of the transmembrane regions of membrane proteins and the sorting potential of this phenomenon.

      The authors have used the RUSH system to study the traffic of model secretory proteins containing single-pass transmembrane domains that confer defined affinities for liquid ordered (lo) phases in Giant Plasma Membrane derived Vesicles (GPMVs), out of the ER and Golgi. A native protein termed LAT partitioned into these lo-domains, unlike a synthetic model protein termed LAT-allL, which had a substituted transmembrane domain. The authors experiments provide support for the idea that ER exit relies on motifs in the cytosolic tails, but that accelerated Golgi exit is correlated with lo domain partitioning.

      Additional experiments provided evidence for segregation of Golgi membranes into coexisting lipid-driven domains that potentially concentrate different proteins. Their inference is that lipid rafts play an important role in Golgi exit. While this is an attractive idea, the experiments described in this manuscript do not provide a convincing argument one way or the other. It does however revive the discussion about the relationship between the potential for phase partitioning and its influence on membrane traffic.

      Our detailed comments are listed below:

      ER exit:<br /> The experiments conducted to identify an ER exit motif in the C-terminal domain of LAT are straightforward and convincing. This is also consistent with available literature. The authors should comment on whether the conservation of the putative COPII association motif (detailed in Fig. 2A) is significantly higher than that of other parts of the C-terminal domain. One cause of concern is that addition of a short cytoplasmic domain from LAT is sufficient to drive ER exit, and in its absence the synthetic constructs are all very slow. However, the argument presented that specific lo phase partitioning behaviour of the TMDs do not have a significant effect on exit from the ER is a little confusing. This is related to the choice of the allL-TMD as the 'non-lo domain' partitioning comparator. Previous data has shown that longer TMDs (23+) promote ER export (eg. Munro 91, Munro 95, Sharpe 2005). The mechanism for this is not, to my knowledge, known. One could postulate that it has something to do with the very subject of this manuscript- lipid phase partitioning. If this is the case, then a TMD length of 22 might be a poor choice of comparison. A TMD 17 Ls' long would be a more appropriate 'non-raft' cargo. It would be interesting to see a couple of experiments with a cargo like this.

      Golgi exit:<br /> For the LAT constructs, the kinetics of Golgi exit as shown in Fig. 3B are surprisingly slow. About half of the protein remains in the Golgi at 1 h after biotin addition. Most secretory cargo proteins would have almost completely exited the Golgi by that time, as illustrated by VSVG in Fig. S3. There is a concern that LAT may have some tendency to linger in the Golgi, presumably due to a factor independent of the transmembrane domain, and therefore cannot be viewed as a good model protein. For kinetic modeling in particular, the existence of such an additional factor would be far from ideal. A valuable control would be to examine the Golgi exit kinetics of at least one additional secretory cargo.

      Comments about the trafficking model<br /> 1. In Figure 1E, the export of LAT-TMD from the ER is fitted to a single-exponential fit that the authors say is "well described". This is unclear and there is perhaps something more complex going on. It appears that there is an initial lag phase and then similar kinetics after that - perhaps the authors can comment on this?

      2. The model for Golgi sorting is also complicated and controversial, and while the authors' intention to not over-interpreting their data in this regard must be respected, this data is in support of the two-phase Golgi export model (Patterson et al PMID:18555781). Furthermore contrary to the statement in lines 200-202, the kinetics of VSVG exit from the Golgi (Fig. S3) are roughly linear and so are NOT consistent with the previous report by Hirschberg et al. Moreover, the kinetics of LAT export from the Golgi (Fig. 3B) appear quite different, more closely approximating exponential decay of the signal. These points should be described accurately and discussed.

      Relationship between membrane traffic and domain partitioning:<br /> 1. Phase segregation in the GPMV is dictated by thermodynamics given its composition and the measurement temperature (at low temperatures 4degC). However at physiological temperatures (32-37degC) at which membrane trafficking is taking place these GPMVs are not phase separated. Hence it is difficult to argue that a sorting mechanism based solely on the partitioning of the synthetic LAT-TMD constructs into lo domains detected at low temperatures in GPMVs provide a basis (or its lack) for the differential kinetics of traffic of out of the Golgi (or ER). The mechanism in a living cell to form any lipid based sorting platforms naturally requires further elaboration, and by definition cannot resemble the lo domains generated in GPMVs at low temperatures.

      2. The lipid compositions of each of these membranes - PM, ER and Golgi are drastically different. Each is likely to phase separate at different phase transition temperatures (if at all). The transition temperature is probably even lower for Golgi and the ER membranes compared to the PM. Hence, if the reported compositions of these compartments are to be taken at face value, the propensity to form phase separated domains at a physiological temperature will be very low. Are ordered domains even formed at the Golgi at physiological temperatures?

      3. The hypothesis of 'lipid rafts' is a very specific idea, related to functional segregation, and the underlying basis for domain formation has been also hotly debated. In this article the authors conflate thermodynamic phase separation mechanisms with the potential formation of functional sorting domains, further adding to the confusion in the literature. To conclude that this segregation is indeed based on lipid environments of varying degrees of lipid order, it would probably be best to look at the heterogeneity of the various membranes directly using probes designed to measure lipid packing, and then look for colocalization of domains of different cargo with these domains.

      4. In the super-resolution experiments (by SIM- where the enhancement of resolution is around two fold or less compared to optical), the authors are able to discern a segregation of the two types of Golgi-resident cargo that have different preferences for the lo-domains in GPMVs. It should be noted that TMD-allL and the LATallL end up in the late endosome after exit of the Golgi. Previous work from the Bonafacino laboratory (PMID: 28978644) has shown that proteins (such as M6PR) destined to go to the late endosome bud from a different part of the Golgi in vesicular carriers, while those that are destined for the cell surface first (including TfR) bud with tubular vesicular carriers. Thus at the resolution depicted in Fig 5, the segregation seen by the authors could be due to an alternative explanation, that these molecules are present in different areas of the Golgi for reasons different from phase partitioning. The relatively high colocalization of TfR with the GPI probe in Fig 5E is consistent with this explanation. TfR and GPI prefer different domains in the GPMV assays yet they show a high degree of colocalization and also traffic to the cell surface.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> This important study from Godneeva et al. establishes a Drosophila model system for understanding how the activity of Tif1 proteins is modified by SUMO. The authors nicely show that Bonus, like homologous mammalian Tif1 proteins, is a repressor, and that it interacts with other co-repressors Mi-2/NuRD and setdb1 in Drosophila ovaries and S2 cells. They also show that Bonus is SUMOylated by Su(var)2-10 on at least one lysine at its N-terminus to promote its interaction with setdb1. By combining nice biochemistry with an elegant reporter gene approach, they show that SUMOylation is important for Bonus interaction with setdb1, and that this SUMO-dependent interaction triggers high levels of H3K9me3 deposition and gene silencing. While there are still major questions of how SUMO molecularly promotes this process, this study is a valuable first step that opens the door for interesting future experimentation.

      Major Point:<br /> The RNAseq and ChIPseq data is not available. This is critical for the review of the paper and would help the readers and reviewers interpret the Bonus mutant phenotype and its mechanism of repressing genes.

      1) The author's conclusion that Bonus SUMOylation is "essential for its chromatin localization" is not supported by the data. Figure 5F shows less 3KR mutant in the chromatin fraction but there is still significant signal.<br /> 2) The author's conclusion that Bonus is SUMOylated at a single site close to its N-terminus is not necessarily true. In several SUMO and Bonus blots throughout the paper (5B, 6C, S4A), there are >2 differentially migrating species that could represent more than one SUMO added to Bonus. While the single K20R mutation eliminates all of these species in Fig 5C, it is possible that K20R SUMOylation is required for additional SUMOylation events on other residues. One way to determine if Bonus is SUMOylated on multiple sites is to add recombinant SUMO protease to the extract and see if multiple higher molecular weight bands collapse into a single migrating species (implying multiple SUMOs) or multiple migrating species (implying something else is altering gel migration).<br /> 3) The authors state that most upregulated genes in BonusGLKD are not highly enriched in H3K9me3. The heatmap in figure 3D is not an ideal presentation of this argument. The authors should show an example of what the signal on a highly enriched gene looks like for comparison. The authors also argue that because most upregulated genes in BonusGLKD are not highly enriched in H3K9me3, they must be indirectly repressed. Another possibility is that bonus-mediated H3K9me3 is only important (and present) during early nurse cell differentiation and is later lost and dispensable during the rapid endocycles. After bonus establishes repression though H3K9me3, it might be maintained through bonus-Mi2/Nurd, something else, or nothing at all. The authors could discuss this possibility or perform H3K9me3 ChIP during cyst formation and early nurse cell differentiation rather than in whole ovaries, which are enriched for later stages.<br /> 4) The BonusGLKD RNAseq analysis is underwhelming. The conclusion that "Bonus represses tissue-specific genes" has limited value. Every gene that is not expressed in ovaries is "tissue-specific." What subset of tissue-specific genes does Bonus repress? What common features do these genes have and how do they compare to other sets of tissue-specific genes, such as those reportedly repressed by setdb1, Polycomb proteins, small ovary, l(3)mbt, and stonewall (among others in female germ cells). Comparing these available data sets could help the authors understand the mechanism of Bonus repression and how BonusGLKD leads to sterility. The authors could also further analyze the differences between nos-Gal4 and MT-Gal4 to better understand why nos- but not MT-driven knockdown is sterile.

      Main Study Limitations:<br /> 1) It is unclear which genes are directly vs indirectly regulated by bonus, which makes it difficult to understand Bonus's repressive mechanism. Several lines of experiments could help resolve this issue. 1) Bonus ChIPseq, which the authors mentioned was difficult. 2) RNAseq of BonusGLKD rescued with KR3 mutation. This would help separate SUMO/setdb1-dependent regulation from Mi-2 dependent regulation. Similarly, comparing differentially expressed genes in Su(var)2-10GLKD, setdb1GLKD, 3KR rescue, and MI-2 GLKD could identify overlapping targets and help refine how bonus represses subsets of genes through these different corepressors.

      2) The paper falls short in discussing how SUMO might promote repression. This is important when considering the conservation (of lack thereof) of SUMOylation sites in Tif1 proteins in distantly related animals. One piece of data that was not discussed is the apparent localization of SUMOylated bonus in the cytoplasmic fraction of the blot in Figure 5F. Su(var)2-10 is mostly a nuclear protein, so is bonus SUMOylated in the nucleus and then exported to the cytoplasm? Also, setdb1 is a nuclear protein, so it is unlikely that the SUMOylated bonus directly interacts with setdb1 on target genes. Together with Fig 5E (unSUMOylatable Bonus aggregates in the nucleus), one could make a model where SUMO solubilizes bonus (perhaps by disassembling aggregates) and indirectly allows it to associate with setdb1 and chromatin. It is also important to note that in Figure 5I, the K3R mutation appears to lessen but not eliminate Bonus interaction with setdb1. This data again disfavors a model where SUMO establishes an interaction interface between setdb1 and Bonus. To determine which form of Bonus interacts with setdb1, the authors could perform a setdb1 pulldown and monitor the SUMOylation state of coIPed Bonus through mobility shift. If mostly unSUMOylated bonus interacts with setdb1, and SUMO indirectly promotes Bonus interaction with setdb1 (perhaps by disassembling Bonus aggregates), then the precise locations of Bonus SUMOylation sites could more easily shift during evolution, disfavoring the author's convergent evolution hypothesis.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The authors analyze the functions and regulation of Bon, the sole Drosophila ortholog of the TIF1 family of mammalian transcriptional regulators. Bon has been implicated in several developmental programs, however the molecular details of its regulation have not been well understood. Here, the authors reveal the requirement of Bon in oogenesis, thus establishing a previously unknown biological function for this protein. Furthermore, careful molecular analysis convincingly established the role of Bon in transcriptional repression. This repressor function requires interactions with the NuRD complex and histone methyltransferase SetDB1, as well as sumoylation of Bon by the E3 SUMO ligase Su(var)2-10. Overall, this work represents a significant advance in our understanding of the functions and regulation of Bon and, more generally, the TIF1 family. Since Bon is the only TIF1 family member in Drosophila, the regulatory mechanisms delineated in this study may represent the prototypical and important modes of regulation of this protein family. The presented data are rigorous and convincing. As discussed below, this study can be strengthened by a demonstration of a direct association of Bon with its target genes, and by analysis of the biological consequences of the K20R mutation.

      Strengths:<br /> 1. This study identified the requirement for Bon in oogenesis, a previously unknown function for this protein.<br /> 2. Identified Bon target genes that are normally repressed in the ovary, and showed that the repression mechanism involves the repressive histone modification mark H3K9me3 deposition on at least some targets.<br /> 3. Showed that Bon physically interacts with the components of the NuRD complex and SetDB1. These protein complexes are likely mediating Bon-dependent repression.<br /> 4. Identified Bon sumoylation site (K20) that is conserved in insects. This site is required for repression in a tethering transcriptional reporter assay, and SUMO itself is required for repression and interaction with SetDB1. Interestingly, the K20-mutant Bon is mislocalized in the nucleus in distinct puncta.<br /> 5. Showed that Su(var)2-10 is a SUMO E3 ligase for Bon and that Su(var)2-10 is required for Bon-mediated repression.

      Weaknesses:<br /> The study would be strengthened by demonstrating a direct recruitment of Bon to the target genes identified by RNA-seq. Given that the global ChIP-seq was not successful, a few possibilities could be explored. First, Bon ChIP-qPCR could be performed on the individual targets that were functionally confirmed (e.g. rbp6, pst). Second, a global Bon ChIP-seq has been reported in PMID: 21430782 - these data could be used to see if Bon is associated with specific targets identified in this study. In addition, it would be interesting to see if there is any overlap with the repressed target genes identified in Bon overexpression conditions in PMID: 36868234.

      The second area where the manuscript can be improved is to analyze the biological function of the K20R mutant Bonus protein. The molecular data suggest that this residue is important for function, and it would be important to confirm this in vivo.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In the study by Venkat et al. the authors expand the current knowledge of allosteric diversity in the human kinome by c-terminal splicing variants using as a paradigm DCLK1. In this work, the authors provide evolutionary and some mechanistic evidence about how c-terminal isoform specific variants generated by alternative splicing can regulate catalytic activity by means of coupling specific phosphorylation sites to dynamical and conformational changes controlling active site and substrate pocket occupancy, as well as interfering with protein-protein interacting interfaces that altogether provides evidence of c-terminal isoform specific regulation of the catalytic activity in protein kinases.

      The paper is overall well written, the rationale and the fundamental questions are clear and well explained, the evolutionary and MD analyses are very detailed and well explained. Overall I think this is a study that brings some new aspects and concepts that are important for the protein kinase field, in particular the allosteric regulation of the catalytic core by c-terminal segments, and how evolutionary cues generate more sophisticated mechanisms of allosteric control in protein kinases.

      Current submission: I have read and gone through the revised manuscript and the rebuttal letter and I confirm that the authors did an excellent job answering all the comments satisfactorily.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      In this study, the authors explore the structure/function of the DCLK kinases, most specifically DCLK1 as it is the most studied to date. Recently, the C-terminal domain has garnered attention as it was found to regulate the kinase domain, however, the different isoforms retain additional amino acid sequences with as-yet-undefined functions. The authors provide an evolutionary and biochemical characterization of these regions and provide evidence for some functionality for these additional C-terminal sequences. While these experiments are informative they do require that the protein is soluble and not membrane-bound as has been suggested to be important for functionality in other studies. Still, this is a major contribution to understanding the structure/function of these proteins that will be important in future experimental designs.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This carefully done research paper presents a fundamental model of techniques that are useful for the elucidation of kinase substrates. The paper utilizes state-of-the-art approaches to define a kinetic phosphoproteome and how to integrate that data with complementary approaches using a chemical probe (in this case KTPyS, a triphosphate) to find these substrates. Using these approaches TgCDPK1 was demonstrated to affect microneme secretion via a direct interaction with a HOOK complex (defined as a HOOK protein TGG1_289100, an FTS TGGT1_264050 and 2 other proteins TGGT1_316650 and 306920).

      This work is carefully controlled and the analysis pathways are logical and provide paradigms for how to approach the question of identifying substrates of kinases using proteomic approaches employing genetic and chemical strategies.

      The authors succeeded in the identification of candidate substrates for TgCDPK1. Validation of the results was provided by previous studies in the literature that characterized some of these substrates as well as the experiments in this manuscript on the characterization of the HOOK complex that is phosphorylated by CDPK1.

      The HOOK complex (defined as a HOOK protein TGG1_289100, an FTS TGGT1_264050, and 2 other proteins TGGT1_316650 and 306920) was clearly demonstrated to be involved in invasion via its role in microneme trafficking.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      In this study, the authors take a multipronged approach to identify the substrate repertoire of calcium-dependent protein kinase, CDPK1 in Toxoplasma that includes quantitative phosphoproteomics, myristoylation, thiophosphorylation, immunoprecipitation as well as proximity-based labeling. Their finding also reveals that CDPK1 functions in parasite invasion and egress by phosphorylating different protein candidates. More importantly, the authors successfully determine one branch of the CDPK1 signaling pathway that regulates invasion through the phosphorylation of the HOOK protein involved in the translocation and secretion of micronemal proteins.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      In this manuscript, Chan and collaborators investigate the role of CDPK1 in regulating microneme trafficking and exocytosis in Toxoplasma gondii. Micronemes are apicomplexan-specific organelles localized at the apical end of the parasite and depending on cortical microtubules. Micronemes contain proteins that are exocytosed in a Ca²+-dependent manner and are required for T. gondii egress, motility, and host-cell invasion. In Apicomplexa, Ca²+ signaling is dependent on Ca²+-dependent protein kinases (CDPKs). CDPK1 has been demonstrated to be essential for Ca²+-stimulated micronemes exocytosis allowing parasite egress, gliding motility, and invasion. It is also known that intracellular calcium storages are mobilized following a cyclic nucleotide-mediated activation of protein kinase G. This step, occurs upstream of CDPK1 functions. However, the exact signaling pathway regulated by CDPK1 remains unknown. In this paper, the authors used phosphoproteomic analysis to identify new proteins phosphorylated by CDPK1. They demonstrated that CDPK1 activity is required for calcium-stimulated trafficking of micronemes to the apical end, depending on a complex of proteins that include HOOK and FTS, which are known to link cargo to the dynein machinery for trafficking along microtubules. Overall, the authors identified evidence for a new protein complex involved in microneme trafficking through the exocytosis process for which circumstantial evidence of its functionality is demonstrated here.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this nice study, the authors set out to investigate the role of the canonical circadian gene Clock in the rhythmic biology of the basal metazoan Nematostella vectensis, a sea anemone, which might illuminate the evolution of the Clock gene functionality. To achieve their aims the team generated a Clock knockout mutant line (Clock-/- ) by CRISPR/Cas9 gene deletion and subsequent crossing. They then compared wild-type (WT) with Clock-/- animals for locomotor activity and transcriptomic changes over time in constant darkness (DD) and under light/dark cycles to establish these phenotypes under circadian control and those driven by light cycles. In addition, they used Hybridization Chain Reaction-In situ Hybridization (HCR-ISH) to demonstrate the spatial expression of Clock and a putative circadian clocl-controlled gene Myh7 in whole-mounted juvenile anemones.

      The authors demonstrate that under LD both WT and Clock-/- animals were behaviourally rhythmic but under DD the mutants lost this rhythmicity, indicating that Clock is necessary for endogenous rhythms in activity. With altered LD regimes (LD6:6) they show also that Clock is light-dependent. RNAseq comparisons of rhythmic gene expression in WT and Clock-/- animals suggest that clock KO has a profound effect on the rhythmic genome, with very little overlap in rhythmic transcripts between the two phenotypes; of the rhythmic genes in both LD and DD in WT animals (220- termed clock-controlled genes, CCGS) 85% were not rhythmic in Clock-/- animals in either light condition. In silico gene ontology (GO) analysis of CCGS reflected process associated with circadian control. Correspondingly, those genes rhythmic in KO animals under DD (here termed neoCCGs) were not rhythmic in WT, lacked upstream E-box motifs associated with circadian regulation, and did not display any GO enrichment terms. 'Core' circadian genes (as identified in previous literature) in WT and Clock-/- animals were only rhythmic under entrainment (LD) conditions whilst Clock-/- displayed altered expression profiles under LD compared to WT. Comparing CCGs with previous studies of cycling genes in Nematostellar, the authors selected a gene from 16 rhythmic transcripts. One of these, Myh7 was detectable by both RNAseq and HCR-ISH and considered a marker of the circadian clock by the authors.

      The authors claim that the study reveals insights into the evolutionary origin of circadian timing; Clock is conserved across distant groups of organisms, having a function as a positive regulator of the transcriptional translational feedback loop at the heart of daily timing, but is not a central element of the core feedback loop circadian system in this basal species. Their behavioural and transcriptomic data largely support the claims that Clock is necessary for endogenous daily activity but that the putative molecular circadian system is not self-sustained under constant darkness (this was known already for WT animals)- rather it is responsive to light cycles with altered dynamics in Clock-/- specimens in some core genes under LD. In the main, I think the authors achieved their aims and the manuscript is a solid piece of important work. The Clock-/- animal is a useful resource for examining time-keeping in a basal metazoan.

      The work described builds on other transcriptomic-based works on cnidaria, including Nematostellar, and does probe into the molecular underpinnings with a loss-of-function in a gene known to be core in other circadian systems. The field of chronobiology will benefit from the evolutionary aspect of this work and the fact that it highlights the necessity to study a range of non-model species to get a fuller picture of timing systems to better appreciate the development and diversity of clocks.

      Strengths:<br /> The generation of a line of Clock mutant Nematostellar is a very useful tool for the chronobiological community and coupled with a growing suite of tools in this species will be an asset. The experiments seem mostly well conceived and executed (NB see 'weaknesses'). The problem tackled is an interesting one and should be an important contribution to the field.

      Weaknesses:<br /> I think the claims about shedding light on the evolutionary origin of circadian time maintenance are a little bold. I agree that the data do point to an alternative role for Clock in this animal in light responsiveness, but this doesn't illuminate the evolution of time-keeping more broadly in my view. In addition, these are transcriptomic data and so should be caveated- they only demonstrate the expression of genes and not physiology beyond that. The time-course analysis is weakened by its low resolution, particularly for the RAIN algorithm when 4-hour intervals constrain the analysis. I accept that only 24h rhythms were selected in the analysis from this but, it might be that detail was lost - I think a preferred option would be 2 or 3-hour resolution or 2 full 24h cycles of analysis.

      The authors discount the possibility of the observed 12h rhythmicity in Clock-/- animals by exposing them to LD6:6 cycles before free-running them in DD. I suggest that LD cycles are not a particularly robust way to entrain tidal animals as far as we know. Recent papers show inundation/mechanical agitation are more reliable cues (Kwiatkowski ER, et al. Curr Biol. 2023, 2;33(10):1867-1882.e5. doi: 10.1016/j.cub.2023.03.015; Zhang L., et al Curr Biol. 2013, 23;19, 1863-1873 doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2013.08.038.) and might be more effective in revealing endogenous 12h rhythms in the absence of 24h cues.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This manuscript addresses an important question: what is the role of the gene Clock in the control of circadian rhythms in a very primitive group of animals: Cnidaria. Clock has been found to be essential for circadian rhythms in several animals, but its function outside of Bilaterian animals is unknown. The authors successfully generated a severe loss-of-function mutant in Nematostella. This is an important achievement that should help in understanding the early evolution of circadian clocks. Unfortunately, this study currently suffers from several important weaknesses. In particular, the authors do not present their work in a clear fashion, neither for a general audience nor for more expert readers, and there is a lack of attention to detail. There are also important methodological issues that weaken the study, and I have questions about the robustness of the data and their analysis. I am hoping that the authors will be able to address my concerns, as this work should prove important for the chronobiology field and beyond. I have highlighted below the most important issues, but the manuscript needs editing throughout to be accessible to a broad audience, and referencing could be improved.

      Major issues:<br /> 1) Why do the authors make the claim in the abstract that CLOCK function is conserved with other animals when their data suggest that it is not essential for circadian rhythms? dCLK is strictly required in Drosophila for circadian rhythms. In mammals, there are two paralogs, CLOCK and NPAS2, but without them, there are no circadian rhythms either. Note also that the recent claim of BMAL1-independent rhythms in mammals by Ray et al., quoted in the discussion to support the idea that rhythms can be observed in the absence of the positive elements of the circadian core clock, had to be corrected substantially, and its main conclusions have been disputed by both Abruzzi et al. and Ness-Cohn et al. This should be mentioned.

      2) The discussion of CIPC on line 222 is hard to follow as well. How does mRNA rhythm inform the function of CIPC, and why would it function as a "dampening factor"? Given that it is "the only core clock member included in the Clock-dependent CCGs," (220) more discussion seems warranted. Discussing work done on this protein in mammals and flies might provide more insight.

      3) The behavioral arrhythmicity seen with their Clock mutation is really interesting. However, what is shown is only an averaged behavior trace and a single periodogram for the entire population. This leaves open the possibility that individual animals are poorly synchronized with each other, rather than arrhythmic. I also note that in DD there seem to be some residual rhythms, though they do not reach significance. Thus, it is also possible that at least some individual animals retain weak rhythms. The authors should analyze behavioral rhythms in individual animals to determine whether behavioral rhythmicity is really lost. This is important for the solidity of their main conclusions.

      4) There is no mention in the results section of the behavior of heterozygotes. Based on supplement figure 2A, there is a clear reduction in amplitude in the heterozygous animals. Perhaps this might be because there is only half a dose of Clock, but perhaps this could be because of a dominant-negative activity of the truncated protein. There is no direct functional evidence to support the claim that the mutant allele is nonfunctional, so it is important to discuss carefully studies in other species that would support this claim, and the heterozygous behavior since it raises the possibility that the mutant allele acts as a dominant negative.

      5) I do not understand what the bar graphs in Figure 2E and 3B represent - what does the y-axis label refer to?

      6a. I note that RAIN was used, with a p<0.05 cut-off. I believe RAIN is quite generous in calling genes rhythmic, and the p-value cut-off is also quite high. What happens if the stringency is increased, for example with a p<0.01.<br /> b. It would be worth choosing a few genes called rhythmic in different conditions (mutant or wild-type. LD or DD), and using qPCR to validate the RNAseq results. For example, in Figure 3D, Myh7 RNAseq data are shown, and they do not look convincing. I am surprised this would be called a circadian rhythm. In wild-type, the curve seems arrhythmic to me, with three peaks, and a rather large difference between the first and second ZT0 time point. In the Clock mutants, rhythms seem to have a 12hr period, so they should not be called rhythmic according to the material and methods, which says that only ca 24hr period mRNA rhythms were considered rhythmic. Also, the result section does not say anything about Myh7 rhythms. What do they tell us? Why were they presented at all?

      7) The authors should explain better why only the genes that are both rhythmic in LD and DD are considered to be clock-controlled genes (CCGs). In theory, any gene rhythmic in DD could be a CCG. However, Leach and Reitzel actually found that most genes in DD1 do not cycle the next day (DD2)? This suggests that most "rhythmic" genes might show a transient change in expression due to prolonged obscurity and/or the stress induced by the absence of a light-dark cycle, rather than being clock controlled. Is this why the authors saw genes rhythmic under both LD and DD as actual CCGs? I would suggest verifying that in DD the phase of the oscillation for each CCG is similar to that in LD. If a gene is just responding to obscurity, it might show an elevated expression at the end of the dark period of LD, and then a high level in the first hours of DD. Such an expression pattern would be very unlikely to be controlled by the circadian clock.

      8) Since there are still rhythms in LD in Clock mutants, I wonder whether there is a paralog that could be taking Clock's place, similar to NPAS2 in mammals.

      9) I do not follow the point the authors try to make in lines 268-272. The absence of anticipatory behavior in Drosophila Clk mutants results from disruption of the circadian molecular clock, due to the loss of Clk's circadian function. Which light-dependent function of Clock are the authors referring to, then? Also, following this, it should be kept in mind that clock mutant mice have a weakened oscillator. The effect on entrainment is secondary to the weakening of the oscillator, rather than a direct effect on the light input pathway (weaker oscillators have increased response to environmental inputs). The authors thus need to more clearly explain why they think there is a conservation of circadian and photic clock function.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In their manuscript, Laporte et al. analyze the process of formation of the quiescent-cell nuclear microtubule (Q-nMT) bundle, a set of parallel MTs that emanate from the nuclear side of the spindle pole bodies (SPBs) upon the entry of Saccharomyces cerevisiae cells in quiescence. Based on their results, the authors propose that Q-nMT bundle formation is a multistep process that comprises three distinct sequential phases. The authors further evaluate the role of different factors during the growth of the Q-nMT bundle upon quiescence entry, as well as during the disassembly of this structure once cells resume their proliferation.

      The Q-nMT is an interesting cellular structure whose physiological function is still widely unknown. Hence, providing new insights into the dynamics of Q-nMT bundle formation and identifying new factors involved in this process is an interesting topic of relevance in the field. The authors made a substantial effort in order to evaluate Q-nMT bundle formation and provide a considerable amount of data, mainly obtained from microscopy analyses. Overall, the experiments are well described and properly executed, and the data in the manuscript are clearly presented.

      Despite the interest in the study, there are important issues that could affect the validity of the conclusions drawn in the manuscript. In this way, regarding the analysis of the dynamics of Q-nMT bundle formation, the experimental set up described in some of the experiments raises certain concerns, which mostly derive from the nocodazole treatments and the use of this microtubule-depolymerizing agent as the only approach to evaluate the stability of the Q-nMT bundle. On the other hand, regarding the factors involved in Q-nMT formation, the differences in microtubule length with the wild-type strain, despite being statistically significant, are really subtle for many of the mutants analyzed (e.g., bir1, slk19, etc.). Additionally, there are proteins that are proposed to participate in the process of Q-nMT formation and whose expression during quiescence needs to be demonstrated. Finally, although the cell viability defects observed for some of the mutants in these factors could be certainly associated with the lack of expression or mutation of the specific gene under evaluation, in none of the cases can they be directly attributed to a defect in aberrant Q-nMT bundle formation.

      Based on the aforementioned reasons, and despite the considerable effort by the authors, it is my impression that many of the conclusions of the manuscript are not sufficiently justified by the data provided. Additional evidence, including the incorporation of key experimental controls that are currently missing, would be required in order to more strongly support the conclusions of the manuscript.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary: The authors investigate the assembly of the Q-nMT, a stable microtubule structure that is assembled during quiescence. Notably, the authors show that the formation of the Q-nMT cannot be solely explained by changes in the physicochemical properties of quiescent cells. The authors report that Q-nMT assembly occurs in three regulated steps and identify kinesin motor proteins involved in the assembly and disassembly of the structure.

      Strengths: The findings provide new insight into the assembly and possible function of the Q-nMT with respect to the response of haploid budding yeast to glucose starvation.

      Weaknesses: The manuscript would benefit from more precise language and requires additional clarification regarding how claims are supported by the evidence. Clear definitions are also required, for example, "active process" is not defined. Some conclusions are not supported by the results, for example, the claim that the Q-nMT functions as a checkpoint effector that inhibits re-entry into the cell cycle.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      In this study, the authors analyzed a unique and very stable microtubule bundle that is formed in yeast cells entering quiescence. They show that the structure is required for yeast cells to maintain viability during quiescence and that it needs to be disassembled for cell cycle re-entry. They identify different stages during the assembly process and focus on the molecular players required for microtubule bundle formation and stabilization. They identify kinetochore as well as molecular motors such as auroraB, kinesin-14, and kinesin-5 that assemble, stabilize and crosslink the microtubules of the bundle. The paper also investigates the disassembly of the structure and shows that disassembly is required for cell cycle re-entry.

      The study is very comprehensive, provides quantifications to support claims, and identifies various players involved in these processes, providing mechanistic insight. It also presents various control experiments to exclude alternative explanations and support the proposed model.

      It is the first molecular-level insight into how this very stable microtubule structure can be assembled, maintained, and disassembled, and how this is coordinated with cell cycle exit and re-entry. This information may be very useful when analyzing similarly stable, microtubule-based structures in other organisms such as cilia in animals, which also display cell cycle-coordinated dynamics.

      Overall, this is a nicely presented study that provides important insight into the field and beyond, but there are a few points that need to be addressed regarding methods used for quantifications and data presentation.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In their study, Aman et al. utilized single cell transcriptome analysis to investigate wild-type and mutant zebrafish skin tissues during the post-embryonic growth period. They identified new epidermal cell types, such as ameloblasts, and shed light on the effects of TH on skin morphogenesis. Additionally, they revealed the important role of the hypodermis in supporting pigment cells and adult stripe formation. Overall, I find their figures to be of high quality, their analyses to be appropriate and compelling, and their major claims to be well-supported by additional experiments. Therefore, this study will be an important contribution to the field of vertebrate skin research.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This work describes transcriptome profiling of dissected skin of zebrafish at post-embryonic stages, at a time when adult structures and patterns are forming. The authors have used the state-of-the-art combinatorial indexing RNA-seq approach to generate single cell (nucleus) resolution. The data appears robust and is coherent across the four different genotypes used by the authors.

      The authors present the data in a logical and accessible manner, with appropriate reference to the anatomy. They include helpful images of the biology and schematics to illustrate their interpretations.

      The datasets are then interrogated to define cell and signalling relationships between skin compartments in six diverse contexts. The hypotheses generated from the datasets are then tested experimentally. Overall, the experiments are appropriate and rigorously performed. They ask very interesting questions of interactions in the skin and identify novel and specific mechanisms. They validate these well.

      The authors use their datasets to define lineage relationships in the dermal scales and also in the epidermis. They show that circumferential pre-scale forming cells are precursors of focal scale forming cells while there appeared a more discontinuous relationship between lineages in the epidermis.

      The authors present transcriptome evidence for enamel deposition function in epidermal subdomains. This is convincingly confirmed with an ameloblastin in situ. They further demonstrate distinct expression of SCPP and collagen genes in the SFC regions.

      The authors then demonstrate that Eda and TH signalling to the basal epidermal cells generates FGF and PDGF ligands to signal to surrounding mesenchyme, regulating SFC differentiation and dermal stratification respectively.

      Finally, they exploit RNA-seq data performed in parallel in the bnc2 mutants to identify the hypodermal cells as critical regulators of pigment patterning and define the signalling systems used.

      Whilst these six interactions in the skin are disparate, the stories are unified by use of the sci-RNA-seq data to define interactions. Overall, it's an assembly of work which identifies novel and interesting cell interactions and cross-talk mechanisms.

      The paper provides robust evidence of cell interrelationships in the skin undergoing morphogenesis and will be a welcome dataset for the field.

    3. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This work describes transcriptome profiling of dissected skin of zebrafish at post-embryonic stages, at a time when adult structures and patterns are forming. The authors have used the state-of-the-art combinatorial indexing RNA-seq approach to generate single cell (nucleus) resolution. The data appears robust and is coherent across the four different genotypes used by the authors.

      The authors present the data in a logical and accessible manner, with appropriate reference to the anatomy. They include helpful images of the biology and schematics to illustrate their interpretations.

      The datasets are then interrogated to define cell and signalling relationships between skin compartments in six diverse contexts. The hypotheses generated from the datasets are then tested experimentally. Overall, the experiments are appropriate and rigorously performed. They ask very interesting questions of interactions in the skin and identify novel and specific mechanisms. They validate these well.

      The authors use their datasets to define lineage relationships in the dermal scales and also in the epidermis. They show that circumferential pre-scale forming cells are precursors of focal scale forming cells while there appeared a more discontinuous relationship between lineages in the epidermis.

      The authors present transcriptome evidence for enamel deposition function in epidermal subdomains. This is convincingly confirmed with an ameloblastin in situ. They further demonstrate distinct expression of SCPP and collagen genes in the SFC regions.

      The authors then demonstrate that Eda and TH signalling to the basal epidermal cells generates FGF and PDGF ligands to signal to surrounding mesenchyme, regulating SFC differentiation and dermal stratification respectively.

      Finally, they exploit RNA-seq data performed in parallel in the bnc2 mutants to identify the hypodermal cells as critical regulators of pigment patterning and define the signalling systems used.

      Whilst these six interactions in the skin are disparate, the stories are unified by use of the sci-RNA-seq data to define interactions. Overall, it's an assembly of work which identifies novel and interesting cell interactions and cross-talk mechanisms.

      The paper provides robust evidence of cell interrelationships in the skin undergoing morphogenesis and will be a welcome dataset for the field.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Polymorphisms in genes in the human leukocyte antigen (HLA) class II region comprise the most important inherited risk factors for many autoimmune diseases including type 1 diabetes (T1D) and celiac disease (CD). The paper focuses on the novel triad ((SNPs): rs3135394, rs9268645, and rs3129877) finding quite interesting results. The paper suggests further studies at the molecular and structural level to increase our fundamental knowledge of the etiology of autoimmune deceases.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      In this manuscript, Aydemir et al. utilized the large TEDDY study and examined the effect of previously identified tri-SNP in the HLA-DRA gene on the risk of type 1 diabetes (T1D) and celiac disease (CD). They confirmed the protective effect of the tri-SNP haplotype "101" on T1D development. Meanwhile, the same haplotype appeared to be positively associated with risk for CD and the development of CD autoimmunity. The authors further explored the molecular effect of different tri-SNP haplotypes. They proposed that C4A and C4B might be the downstream target.

      Overall, the study is rigorously conducted with proper statistical methods applied. The tri-SNP could be used as an additional risk factor when estimating T1D and celiac disease susceptibility in genetic screening. However, how this locus be incorporated into the current scheme of genetic screening is not discussed and is unlikely to be straightforward.

  2. Aug 2023
    1. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      In this study, Aso and Rubin generated new split-GAL4 lines to label Drosophila mushroom body output neurons (MBONs) that previously lacked specific GAL4 drivers. The MBONs represent the output channels for the mushroom body (MB), a computational center in the fly brain. Prior research identified 21 types of typical MBONs whose dendrites exclusively innervate the MB and 14 types of atypical MBONs whose dendrites also innervate brain regions outside the MB. These MBONs transmit information from the MB to other brain areas and form recurrent connections to dopaminergic neurons whose axonal terminals innervate the MB. Investigating the functions of the MBONs is crucial to understanding how the MB processes information and regulates behavior. The authors previously established a collection of split-GAL4 lines for most of the typical MBONs and one atypical MBON. That split-GAL4 collection has been an invaluable tool for researchers studying the MB. This work extends their previous effort by generating additional driver lines labeling the MBON types not covered by the previous split-GAL4 collection. Using these new driver lines, the authors also activated the labeled MBONs using optogenetics and assessed their role in learning, locomotion, and valence coding. The expression patterns of the new split-GAL4 lines and the behavioral analysis presented in this manuscript are generally convincing. I believe that these new lines will be a valuable resource for the fly community.

    2. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this manuscript Rubin and Aso provide important new tools for the study of learning and memory in Drosophila. In flies, olfactory learning and memory occurs at the Mushroom Body (MB) and is communicated to the rest of the brain through Mushroom Body Output Neurons (MBONs). Previously, typical MBONs were thoroughly studied. Here, atypical MBONs that have dendritic input both within the MB lobes and in adjacent brain regions are studied. The authors describe new cell-type-specific GAL4 drivers for the majority of atypical MBONs (and other MBONs) and using an optogenetic activation screen they examined their ability to drive behaviors and learning.

      The experiments in this manuscript were carefully performed and the results are clear. The tools provided in this manuscript are of great importance to the field.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      Parkinson and colleagues address an interesting and important question, i.e., whether the bumblebee Bombus terrestris can perceive field-realistic concentrations of different pesticides in a sugar solution mimicking nectar. The study directly follows up on a previous study conducted by the same team (Kessler et al. 2015, Nature), which was partly questioned by another more recent study (Arce et al. 2018, Proc. R. Soc. B). The authors apply a combination of electrophysiological measurements and behavioral feeding tests to answer this question. Their results strongly suggest that B. terrestris workers are not able to perceive field-realistic doses of pesticides in a sugar solution. They additionally show that B. terrestris can physiologically differentiate between solutions varying in sugar composition.

      Strengths:

      Sophisticated methodology, a combination of approaches, clear and precise language

      Weaknesses:

      Topic and study implications could be discussed more broadly, the statistical approach is not fully clear to me.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      This manuscript is part of the Wright lab's ongoing studies that investigate whether the bumblebee B. terrestris can detect the presence of pesticides when feeding. Previously, they showed that B. terrestris cannot detect neonicotinoids and would prefer food containing neonicotinoids (Kessler et al. 2015). However, in that paper, they showed that B. terrestris cannot taste neonicotinoids but did not provide evidence on why B. terrestris prefer food containing neonicotinoids. In the current paper, the authors continue to suggest that B. terrestris cannot taste neonicotinoids as well as another insecticide, sulfoxaflor, based on additional behavioral experiments and electrophysiological experiments focusing on specific GRNs. While the data from these experiments continue to suggest that B. terrestris cannot taste these insecticides using their mouthparts, whether B. terrestris can actually perceive these insecticides, and why this species prefers food containing these compounds is still unknown.

      Strengths:

      The authors provided additional evidence that B. terrestris cannot taste neonicotinoids with their mouthparts.

      Weaknesses:

      There are too many overgeneralizations in the manuscript and parts of it are written in a way that seems to sound combative towards studies from other groups that came to slightly different conclusions from their previous paper.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This work investigates the function of the PTB domain containing adaptor protein Numb in skeletal muscle structure and function. In particular, the effects of reduced Numb expression in aging muscle is proposed as a mechanism for reduced contractile function associated with sarcopenia. Using ex-vivo analysis of conditional Numb and Numblike knockout muscle the authors demonstrate that loss of Numb but not the related Numblike expression perturbs muscle muscle force generation. In order to explore the molecular mechanisms involved, Numb interacting proteins were identified in C2C12 cell cultured myotubes by immunoprecipitation and LC-MS/MS. The authors identify Septin 7 as a Numb binding protein and demonstrate that loss of Numb/Numblike in myofibers causes changes in Septin 7 subcellular localization. Several questions remain. The authors could provide further clarity on the expression of Numb and Numb-like proteins and the specificity of antibodies used in this study since some Numb antibodies recognize both Numb and Numblike. The authors focus on septin 7 amongst the list of potential Numb interactions identified by AP-MS. Of note, septin 2, 9 and 10 were also identified in the AP-MS experiment. Whether these septins form a complex or are also disrupted by Numb/Numblike loss remains an interesting area for further investigation. Additional investigation of the specificity and mapping of the Numb-Septin 7 (or another Septin) interaction would be of interest and provide an approach for future studies to demonstrate the biological relevance and specificity of the Numb-Septin 7 interaction in skeletal muscle.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> This main purpose of this investigation was to 1) compare the effects of a single knockout (sKO) of Numb or a double knockout (dKO) of Numb and NumbL on ex-vivo physiological properties of the extensor digitorium longus (EDL) muscle in C57BL/6NCrl mice; and 2) analyze protein complexes isolated from C2C12 myotubes via immunoprecipitation and LC/MS/MS for potential Numb binding partners. The main findings are 1) the muscles from sKO and dKO were significantly weaker with little difference between the sKO and dKO lines, indicating the reduced force is mainly due to the inactivation of the Numb gene; and 2) there were 11 potential Numb binding proteins that were identified and cytoskeletal specific proteins including Septin 7.

      Strengths:<br /> Strait-forward yet elegant design to help determine the important role the Numb has in skeletal muscle.

      Weaknesses: There were a limited number of samples (3-6) that were used for the physiological experiments; however, there was a very large effect size in terms of differences in muscle tension development between the induced KO models and the controls.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      Pineda et al investigate the association of the hypothesis that Dux4, an embryonic transcription factor, expression in tumor cells is associated with immune evasion and resistance to immunotherapy. They analyze existing cohorts of bulk RNAseq sequenced tumors across cancer types to identify Dux4 expression and association with survival. They find that Dux4 expression is detected in a higher proportion of metastatic tumors compared to primary tumors, is associated with decreased immune infiltrate and a variety of immune metrics and previously nominated immune signatures, and do an in depth evaluation of a cohort of metastatic urothelial cell carcinoma, finding that Dux4 expression is associated with a more immunodeficient tumor microenvironment (desert or excluded microenvironment) and worse survival in this aPDL1 treated cohort. They then find that Dux4 expression is a major independent predictor of survival in this cohort using different types of survival analyses (KM, Cox PH, and random survival forests). With prior existing biological data supporting the hypothesis (in prior work, the senior author has demonstrated Dux4 expression causally suppresses MHC-I expression in interferon-gamma treated cell lines), the current work links Dux4 expression with less immune activity in clinical tumor samples and with survival in ICI treated urothelial carcinomas, and demonstrates that Dux4 expression provides independent information towards survival including other molecular and clinical characteristics (TMB, ECOG PS as the other strongest markers), and provides interesting resolution on landmark analyses with TMB and Dux4 expression providing greater informativeness at later survival landmarks (e.g. 1 year and later), while ECOG PS has strong informativeness already at earlier time points. This work provides impetus towards more mechanistic and functional dissection of the mechanism of Dux4-associated changes with the tumor microenvironment (e.g. in vivo mouse studies) as well as potential interventional studies (e.g. Dux4 as a target in combination therapies). What the work does not provide is additional resolution on the mechanism of how Dux4 may be associated with a more immunodeficient microenvironment.

      The conclusions are generally well supported, but there are issues that would benefit from clarification and extension:

      - The finding that Dux4 expression is detected in a higher proportion of metastatic tumors and at higher levels compared to primaries (Fig 1BC) is striking. However, at least for one tumor type (melanoma), the "primary" samples are sourced as n=400+ tumors from TCGA, but the TCGA melanoma cohort is comprised of mostly metastatic (n=81 primary and 367 metastatic tumors in the PanCan Atlas), so it is unclear whether this is correctly interpreted. The analysis of tumors with matched FFPE and flash frozen samples with hybrid probe capture and polyA sequencing, respectively is a nice validation to show that the difference in Dux4 expression is not due to differences in preservation of starting material/sequencing in the metastatic samples vs primary samples (S1BC). However, the cited work from which this data arises (D. Robinson et al 2015) is a study of a cohort of prostate cancers with polyA bulk RNAseq sequencing and at least in that work does not seem to have matched FFPE sequencing, making the provenance of this data unclear at a minimum.

      - The findings that Dux4 expression in the metastatic urothelial carcinoma setting is associated with a more immunodeficient microenvironment (Figure 2) is clear and unambiguous using multiple lines of data and analyses (bulk RNAseq, DUX4-positive vs DUX4-negative tumors, different immune cell and cytokine signatures; IHC showing an association with immune deserts and immune excluded phenotypes). However, this is an association and does not demonstrate causality.

      - The survival analyses (Fig 3,4,5) show fairly convincingly that Dux4 provide independent predictive information beyond clinical variables and TMB towards survival in the aPDL1 treated metastatic urothelial carcinoma cohort, however, there are different choices of Dux4 expression categorization where the rationale is not clearly justified (e.g. Dux4 expression < 0.5 TPM and > 1 TPM in Fig 3, < 0.25 TPM and > 1 TPM in Fig 4 and 5) by either the underlying distribution (e.g. a bimodal distribution) or some type of percentile split.

      - The authors demonstrate that adding Dux4 to clinical markers and TMB results in an improved predictive model for survival, but there are a few questions regarding this model as a clinical biomarker<br /> o Is Dux4 expression better than other correlated immune signatures/markers (e.g. interferon gamma, T effector signature, overall immune infiltrate) in providing additional information?<br /> o Since Dux4 expression is categorized to < 0.25 TPM and > 1 TPM, not all patients are included in the model (i.e. between 0.25 TPM and 1 TPM). How many patients this excludes is unclear, and is important to know if this is to be a clinically relevant biomarker.

      - The use of random survival forests to quantify the (predictive) marginal effect of Dux4+ vs Dux4- expression on survival in a non-parametric model as well as shed light on association with survival at different landmark times using Shapley values is quite interesting and well conducted.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      This article takes an expansive look at the potential role of DUX4 in cancer treatment and prognosis, including its correlation with other key biomarkers, the potential for cancer to be resistant to treatment, and risk prediction.

      Strengths:

      The primary strength of this work is the breadth of the analyses. The authors have linked DUX4 to not just one but multiple points in the trajectory of cancer, which increases the face validity of their conclusion that DUX4 is meaningfully related to the course of a cancer as well as the prognosis for a patient.

      Statistically, the authors have taken care to properly validate their findings using appropriate bootstrapping and testing strategies.

      Weaknesses:

      Several weaknesses are noted. First, there is little-to-no description of the underlying sample population. It is only stated that "several large cohorts of patients with different metastatic cancers" were analyzed, and that a cohort of patients with advanced urothelial cancer was used for estimating associations with clinical outcomes. Lacking is information on the sampling mechanism, inclusion/exclusion criteria, treatment modalities, the definition of 'time = 0', the number of events observed, or even the sample size. Knowledge about the underlying study design would help explain some counterintuitive results, e.g. that the hazard of death among patients with Stage IV cancer is half that of those with Stage I cancer (Table 1); presumably this is not because Stage IV is actually protective but rather an artifact of the sampling scheme for these data. Second, the definition of negative versus positive DUX4 expression varies throughout the paper. In Figure 2A and Figure 3A, it is defined as >1 TPM vs. <= 1 TPM; in Figure 3C, it is defined as >1 TPM vs. < 0.5 TPM; in Figure 4A and Figure 5A, it is defined as >1 TPM vs. < 0.25 TPM; in Figure S1C it is partitioned into four groups, with boundaries defined at 0.25 TPM, 1 TPM, and 5 TPM. If categorization is needed, a rationale should be provided (ideally prospectively and not based upon the observed data, so as to avoid the perception of forking paths analyses), and it should be consistently applied. Third and finally, data seem to be occasionally excluded without rationale. For example, as mentioned above, the Cox model presented in Figure 4A seems to exclude all patients with DUX4 TPM between 0.25 and 1. Figure 3C excludes patients with either DUX4 TPM between 0.5 and 1 and/or with TMB in the lowest quartile (although the latter decision was ostensibly to control for TMB confounding, there are more appropriate ways to do so that don't result in loss of data, e.g. a stratified KM plot). Excluding patients based upon a particular region of the covariate space makes interpreting the resulting model awkward.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this study, the researchers aimed to investigate the cellular landscape and cell-cell interactions in cavernous tissues under diabetic conditions, specifically focusing on erectile dysfunction (ED). They employed single-cell RNA sequencing to analyze gene expression patterns in various cell types within the cavernous tissues of diabetic individuals. The researchers identified decreased expression of genes associated with collagen or extracellular matrix organization and angiogenesis in several cell types, including fibroblasts, chondrocytes, myofibroblasts, valve-related lymphatic endothelial cells, and pericytes. They also discovered a newly identified marker, LBH, that distinguishes pericytes from smooth muscle cells in mouse and human cavernous tissues. Furthermore, the study revealed that pericytes play a role in angiogenesis, adhesion, and migration by communicating with other cell types within the corpus cavernosum. However, these interactions were found to be significantly reduced under diabetic conditions. The study also investigated the role of LBH and its interactions with other proteins (CRYAB and VIM) in maintaining pericyte function and highlighted their potential involvement in regulating neurovascular regeneration. Overall, the manuscript is well-written and the study provides novel insights into the pathogenesis of ED in patients with diabetes and identifies potential therapeutic targets for further investigation.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary: In this manuscript, the authors performed single cell RNA-sequencing of cells from the penises of healthy and diabetes mellitus model (STZ injection-based) mice, identified *Lbh* as a marker of penis pericytes, and report that penis-specific overexpression of *Lbh* is sufficient to rescue erectile function in diabetic animals. In public human single cell RNA-sea datasets, the authors report that *LBH* is similarly specific to pericytes and down regulated in diabetic patients. Additionally, the authors report discovery of CRYAB and VIM1 as protein interacting partners with LBH.

      The authors contributions are of interest to the erectile dysfunction community and their *Lbh* overexpression experiments are especially interesting and well-conducted. However, claims in the manuscript regarding the specificity of *Lbh* as a pericyte marker, the mechanism by which *Lbh* overexpression rescues erectile function, cell-cell interactions impaired by diabetes, and protein-interaction partners require qualification or further evidence to justify.

      Major claims and evidence:

      1. Marker gene specificity and quantification: One of the authors' major contributions is the identification of *Lbh* as a marker of pericytes in their data. The authors present qualitative evidence for this marker gene relationship, but it is unclear from the data presented if *Lbh* is truly a specific marker gene for the pericyte lineage (either based on gene expression or IF presented in Fig. 2D, E). Prior results (see Tabula Muris Consortium, 2018) suggest that *Lbh* is widely expressed in non-pericyte cell types, so the claims presented in the manuscript may be overly broad. Even if *Lbh* is not a globally specific marker, the authors' subsequent intervention experiments argue that it is still an important gene worth studying.<br /> 2. Cell-cell communication and regulon activity changes in the diabetic penis: The authors present cell-cell communication analysis and TF regulon analysis in Fig 3 and report differential activities in healthy and DM mice. These results are certainly interesting, however, no statistical analyses are performed to justify claimed changes in the disease state and no validations are performed. It is therefore challenging to interpret these results, and the relevant claims do not seem well supported.<br /> 3. Rescue of ED by Lbh overexpression: This is a striking and very interesting result that warrants attention. By simple overexpression of the pericyte marker gene Lbh, the authors report rescue of erectile function in diabetic animals. While mechanistic details are lacking, the phenomenon appears to have a large effect size and the experiments appear sophisticated and well conducted. If anything, the authors appear to underplay the magnitude of this result.<br /> 4. Mechanistic claims for rescue of ED by Lbh overexpression: The authors claim that cell type-specific effects on MPCs are responsible for the rescue of erectile function induced by Lbh overexpression. This causal claim is unsupported by the data, which only show that Lbh overexpression influences MPC performance. In vivo, it's likely that Lbh is being over expressed by diverse cell types, any of which could be the causal driver of ED rescue. In fact, the authors report rescue of cell type abundance in endothelial cells and neuronal cells. Therefore, it cannot be concluded that MPC effects alone or in principal are responsible for ED rescue.<br /> 5. Protein interaction data: The authors claim that CRYAB and VIM1 are novel interacting partners of LBH. However, the evidence presented (2 blots in Fig. 6A,B) lack the relevant controls. It is possible that CRYAB and VIM1 are cross-reactive with the anti-LBH antibody or were not washed out completely. The abundance of bands on the Coomassie stain in Fig. 6A suggests that either event is plausible. Therefore, the evidence presented is insufficient to support the claim that CRYAB and VIM1 are protein interacting partners of LBH.

      **Impact**: These data will trigger interest in Lbh as a target gene within the erectile dysfunction community.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Bae et al. described the key roles of pericytes in cavernous tissues in diabetic erectile dysfunction using both mouse and human single-cell transcriptomic analysis. Erectile dysfunction (ED) is caused by dysfunction of the cavernous tissue and affects a significant proportion of men aged 40-70. The most common treatment for ED is phosphodiesterase 5 inhibitors; however, these are less effective in patients with diabetic ED. Therefore, there is an unmet need for a better understanding of the cavernous microenvironment, cell-cell communications in patients with diabetic ED, and the development of new therapeutic treatments to improve the quality of life.

      Pericytes are mesenchymal-derived mural cells that directly interact with capillary endothelial cells (ECs). They play a vital role in the pathogenesis of erectile function as their interactions with ECs are essential for penile erection. Loss of pericytes has been associated with diabetic retinopathy, cancer, and Alzheimer's disease and has been investigated in relation to the permeability of cavernous blood vessels and neurovascular regeneration in the authors' previous studies. This manuscript explores the mechanisms underlying the effect of diabetes on pericyte dysfunction in ED. Additionally, the cellular landscape of cavernous tissues and cell type-specific transcriptional changes were carefully examined using both mouse and human single-cell RNA sequencing in diabetic ED. The novelty of this work lies in the identification of a newly identified pericyte (PC)-specific marker, LBH, in mouse and human cavernous tissues, which distinguishes pericytes from smooth muscle cells. LBH not only serves as a cavernous pericyte marker, but its expression level is also reduced in diabetic conditions. The LBH-interacting proteins (Cryab and Vim) were further identified in mouse cavernous pericytes, indicating that these signaling interactions are critical for maintaining normal pericyte function. Overall, this study demonstrates the novel marker of pericytes and highlights the critical role of pericytes in diabetic ED.

    1. Joint Public Review:

      In this manuscript, the authors proposed an approach to systematically characterise how heterogeneity in a protein signalling network affects its emergent dynamics, with particular emphasis on drug-response signalling dynamics in cancer treatments. They named this approach Meta Dynamic Network (MDN) modelling, as it aims to consider the potential dynamic responses globally, varying both initial conditions (i.e., expression levels) and biophysical parameters (i.e., protein interaction parameters). By characterising the "meta" response of the network, the authors propose that the method can provide insights not only into the possible dynamic behaviours of the system of interest but also into the likelihood and frequency of observing these dynamic behaviours in the natural system.

      The authors studied the Early Cell Cycle (ECC) network as a proof of concept, specifically focusing on PI3K, EGFR, and CDK4/6, with particular interest in identifying the mechanisms that cancer could potentially exploit to display drug resistance. The biochemical reaction model consists of 50 equations (state variables) with 94 kinetic parameters, described using SBML and computed in Matlab. Based on the simulations, the authors concluded the following main points: a large number of network states can facilitate resistance, the individual biophysical parameters alone are insufficient to predict resistance, and adaptive resistance is an emergent property of the network. Finally, the authors attempt to validate the model's prediction that differential core sub-networks can drive drug resistance by comparing their observations with the knock-out information available in the literature. The authors identified subnetworks potentially responsible for drug resistance through the inhibition of individual pathways. Importantly, some concerns regarding the methodology are discussed below, putting in doubt the validity of the main claims of this work.

      While the authors proposed a potentially useful computational approach to better understand the effect of heterogeneity in a system's dynamic response to a drug treatment (i.e., a perturbation), there are important weaknesses in the manuscript in its current form:

      (1) It is unclear how the random parameter sets (i.e., model instances) and initial conditions are generated, and how this choice biases or limits the general conclusions for the case studied. Particularly, it is not evident how the kinetic rates are related to any biological data, nor if the parameter distributions used in this study have any biological relevance.<br /> (2) Related to this problem, it is not clear whether the considered 100,000 random parameter samples sufficiently explore parameter space due to the combinatorial explosion that arises from having 94 free parameters, nor 100,000 random initial conditions for a system with 50 species (variables).<br /> (3) Moreover, the authors filter out all the cases with stiff behaviour. This filtering step appears to select model parameters based on computational convenience, rather than biological plausibility.<br /> (4) Also, it is not clear how exactly the drug effect is incorporated into the model (e.g., molecular inhibition?), nor how it is evaluated in the dynamic simulations (e.g., at the beginning of the simulation?). Moreover, in a complex network, the results may differ depending on whether the inhibition is applied from the start or after the network has reached a stable state.<br /> (5) On the same line, the conclusions need to be discussed in the context of stability, particularly when evaluating the role of initial conditions. As stable steady states are determined by the model parameters, once again, the details of how the perturbation effect is evaluated on the simulation dynamics are critical to interpret the results.<br /> (6) The presented validation of the model results (Fig. 7) is only qualitative, and the interpretation is not carefully discussed in the manuscript, particularly considering the comparison between fold-change responses without specifying the baseline states.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Wang and all present an interesting body of work focused on the effects of high altitude and hypoxia on erythropoiesis, resulting in erythrocytosis. This work is specifically focused on the spleen, targeting splenic macrophages as central cells in this effect. This is logical since these cells are involved in erythrophagocytosis and iron recycling. The results suggest that hypoxia induces splenomegaly with decreased number of splenic macrophages. There is also evidence that ferroptosis is induced in these macrophages, leading to cell destruction. However, additional data demonstrates that RBC clearance is increased, aka shortening the RBC lifespan, calling into question whether splenic function is impaired in hypoxia or whether the spleen enlargement is compensatory, leading to increased erythropoiesis; similarly, increased iron in the spleen provides potential evidence of enhanced erythrophagocytosis with iron release. Many of the reviewers' prior comments are not addressed or only superficially addressed and the additional experimental results and text to the background and discussion sections in the revised manuscript does not increase enthusiasm or clarity. Taken together, there are many issues with the presented results, with somewhat superficial data, with overstated conclusions, decreasing confidence that the hypotheses and observed results are directly causally related to hypoxia in the way that the authors propose.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The authors aimed at elucidating the development of high altitude polycythemia which affects mice and men staying in a hypoxic atmosphere at high altitude (hypobaric hypoxia; HH). HH causes increased erythropoietin production which stimulates the production of red blood cells. The authors hypothesize that increased production is only partially responsible for exaggerated red blood cell production, i.e. polycythemia, but that decreased erythrophagocytosis in the spleen contributes to high red blood cells counts.

      The main strength of the study is the use of a mouse model exposed to HH in a hypobaric chamber. However, not all of the reported results are convincing due to some smaller effects which one may doubt to result in the overall increase in red blood cells as claimed by the authors. Moreover, direct proof for reduced erythrophagocytosis is compromised due to a strong spontaneous loss of labelled red blood cells, although effects of labelled E. coli phagocytosis are shown.

      Their discussion addresses some of the unexpected results, such as the reduced expression of HO-1 under hypoxia but due to the above mentioned limitations much of the discussion remains hypothetical.

      In response to the reviewers´comments the authors extensively tried to address the points that were raised. They provided additional data, removed figures from the initial manuscript and referred to ongoing or further work. Nevertheless, not all questions could be answered leaving some hand-waiving and hypothetical explanations for some unexpected results.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      The manuscript by Yang et al. investigated in mice how hypobaric hypoxia can modify the RBC clearance function of the spleen, a concept that is of interest. Via interpretation of their data, the authors proposed a model that hypoxia causes an increase in cellular iron levels, possibly in RPMs, leading to ferroptosis, and downregulates their erythrophagocytic capacity. However, most of the data is generated on total splenocytes/total spleen, and the conclusions are not always supported by the presented data. The model of the authors could be questioned by the paper by Youssef et al. (which the authors cite, but in an unclear context) that the ferroptosis in RPMs could be mediated by augmented erythrophagocytosis. As such, the loss of RPMs in vivo which is indeed clear in the histological section shown (and is a strong and interesting finding) can be not directly caused by hypoxia, but by enhanced RBC clearance. Such a possibility should be taken into account.

      Major points:

      1) The authors present data from total splenocytes and then relate the obtained data to RPMs, which are quantitatively a minor population in the spleen. Eg, labile iron is increased in the splenocytes upon HH, but the manuscript does not show that this occurs in the red pulp or RPMs. They also measure gene/protein expression changes in the total spleen and connect them to changes in macrophages, as indicated in the model Figure (Fig. 7). HO-1 and levels of Ferritin (L and H) can be attributed to the drop in RPMs in the spleen. Are any of these changes preserved cell-intrinsically in cultured macrophages? This should be shown to support the model (relates also to lines 487-88, where the authors again speculate that hypoxia decreases HO-1 which was not demonstrated). In the current stage, for example, we do not know if the labile iron increase in cultured cells and in the spleen in vivo upon hypoxia is the same phenomenon, and why labile iron is increased. To improve the manuscript, the authors should study specifically RPMs.

      2) The paper uses flow cytometry, but how this method was applied is suboptimal: there are no gating strategies, no indication if single events were determined, and how cell viability was assessed, which are the parent populations when % of cells is shown on the graphs. How RBCs in the spleen could be analyzed without dedicated cell surface markers? A drop in splenic RPMs is presented as the key finding of the manuscript but Fig. 3M shows gating (suboptimal) for monocytes, not RPMs. RPMs are typically F4/80-high, CD11-low (again no gating strategy is shown for RPMs). Also, the authors used single-cell RNAseq to detect a drop in splenic macrophages upon HH, but they do not indicate in Fig. A-C which cluster of cells relates to macrophages. Cell clusters are not identified in these panels, hence the data is not interpretable).

      3) The authors draw conclusions that are not supported by the data, some examples:

      a) They cannot exclude eg the compensatory involvement of the liver in the RBCs clearance (the differences between HH sham and HH splenectomy is mild in Fig. 2 E, F and G)

      b) Splenomegaly is typically caused by increased extramedullary erythropoiesis, not RBC retention. Why do the authors support the second possibility? Related to this, why do the authors conclude that data in Fig. 4 G,H support the model of RBC retention? A significant drop in splenic RBCs (poorly gated) was observed at 7 days, between NN and HH groups, which could actually indicate increased RBC clearance capacity = less retention.

      c) Lines 452-54: there is no data for decreased phagocytosis in vivo, especially in the context of erythrophagocytosis. This should be done with stressed RBCs transfusion assays, very good examples, like from Youssef et al. or Threul et al. are available in the literature.

      d) Line 475 - ferritinophagy was not shown in response to hypoxia by the manuscript, especially that NCOA4 is decreased, at least in the total spleen.

      4) In a few cases, the authors show only representative dot plots or histograms, without quantification for n>1. In Fig. 4B the authors write about a significant decrease (although with n=1 no statistics could be applied here; of note, it is not clear what kind of samples were analyzed here). Another example is Fig. 6I. In this case, it is even more important as the data are conflicting the cited article and the new one: PMCID: PMC9908853 which shows that hypoxia stimulates efferocytosis. Sometimes the manuscript claim that some changes are observed, although they are not visible in representative figures (eg for M1 and M2 macrophages in Fig. 3M)

      5) There are several unclear issues in methodology:

      - what is the purity of primary RPMs in the culture? RPMs are quantitatively poorly represented in splenocyte single-cell suspensions. This reviewer is quite skeptical that the processing of splenocytes from approx 1 mm3 of tissue was sufficient to establish primary RPM cultures. The authors should prove that the cultured cells were indeed RPMs, not monocyte-derived macrophages or other splenic macrophage subtypes.<br /> - (around line 183) In the description of flow cytometry, there are several missing issues. In 1) it is unclear which type of samples were analyzed. In 2) it is not clear how splenocyte cell suspension was prepared.<br /> - In line 192: what does it mean: 'This step can be omitted from cell samples'?<br /> - 'TO method' is not commonly used anymore and hence it was unclear to this Reviewer. Reticulocytes should be analyzed with proper gating, using cell surface markers.<br /> - The description of 'phagocytosis of E. coli and RBCs' in the Methods section is unclear and incomplete. The Results section suggests that for the biotinylated RBCs, phagocytosis? or retention? Of RBCs was quantified in vivo, upon transfusion. However, the Methods section suggests either in vitro/ex vivo approach. It is vague what was indeed performed and how in detail. If RBC transfusion was done, this should be properly described. Of note, biotinylation of RBCs is typically done in vivo only, being a first step in RBC lifespan assay. The such assay is missing in the manuscript. Also, it is not clear if the detection of biotinylated RBCs was performed in permeablized cells (this would be required).

      The authors did not substantially improve the quality of their manuscript in the revised version, at least in the case of the limitations which I have spotted. The major points which remain unclear:<br /> 1. No gating strategies for flow cytometry are provided.<br /> 2. Figure 3M still does not show a typical F4/80 vs CD11b gating, with a population of true RPMs gated.<br /> 3. In a few cases data still lack biological replicates+statistics.<br /> 4. Results from scRNA-seq are not presented more clearly (=clusters in Fig 3E are described as macrophages, but it is not explained which among the clusters are RPMs).<br /> 5. The compensatory role of liver macrophages is omitted.<br /> 6. The authors misunderstood by suggestion to perform in vivo erythrophagocytosis assay using stained RBCs. This assay quantifies the true capacity for erythrophagocytosis in RPMs or KCs in the organ, regardless of the ferroptosis that may be a subsequent consequence (please, see initial Figures in Yousseff et al. paper). Using the percentage of biotin-positive RBCs in the spleen (although this method is not well described in the Methods), the authors rather show increased RBCs clearance at 7 days following hypoxia. Hence, the model where first hypoxia increases erythrophagocytosis in RPMs, consequently leading to their ferroptosis still cannot be excluded.<br /> 7. The Methods are poorly described and unclear - the authors claimed that they have used in vivo biotinylation assay to assess the lifespan of RBCs but it is not described. Instead, the paragraph „Phagocytosis of E. coli and RBCs" suggests that RBCs were stained with biotin for phagocytic assay in culture with macrophages. Phagocytosis of E. coli is still described in the Methods although the authors opted to remove the data from the revised manuscript.<br /> Some points are unclear in the current version of the manuscript, after the addition of new data:<br /> 8. Data in Figure 4D versus 4E,F are not consistent, showing less retention versus increased retention of RBCs in the spleen (retention of senescent RBCs in the spleen should be measured anyway quantitatively, eg, with proper flow cytometry)<br /> 9. The increase of labile iron in the red pulp might not be in RPMs - especially since they seem depleted. Flow cytometry should be used to assess which cell types show increased iron levels.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      It is well established that tuberculosis (TB), which is caused by Mycobacterium tuberculosis (Mtb), is a leading cause of mortality and morbidity worldwide. However, the only vaccine licensed against tuberculosis is Bacille Calmette Guerin (BCG), has been around for nearly a century, and has limited efficacy in adults. Herein, the authors sought to investigate the effectiveness of a nanoparticle-based formulation of a subunit vaccine composed of Mtb lipid and protein antigens. The authors found that they were able to load the lipid, mycolic acid, into their nanoparticles without disrupting the architecture and that the loaded particles activated T cells both in vitro and in vivo. Moreover, when they vaccinated with particles loaded with both lipid and protein antigens, they found that the lipid antigen persisted, and mycolic acid-specific T cells were able to be activated 6 weeks post-vaccination, in contrast to peptide-specific T cells. The authors investigated further and found that persistence required the nanoparticle encapsulation, rather than free lipid, and that it was independent of route (intratracheal, intravenous, or subcutaneous) of administration. To address the mechanisms underlying antigen persistence, the authors loaded the nanoparticles with a dye and demonstrated that the nanoparticle encapsulated lipid antigen was primarily stored in lung alveolar macrophages and that CD1b+ dendritic cells presented the antigen to mycolic acid specific T cells. Finally, the authors conducted mixed bone marrow chimera studies to examine the phenotype of the mycolic acid specific T cells and found that the memory T cell population phenotypically resembled T follicular helper, regulatory T cells, and exhausted T cells. Interestingly, while a large percentage of these lipid antigen specific T cells in the lymph nodes, lung and spleen were CXCR5+PD1+, the cells were still proliferating (Ki67+). Overall, this is a comprehensive study that has the potential to significantly enhance the field.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The work presented here by Morgun et al is performed in the context of vaccine development, a field especially active in the context of tuberculosis (TB). The generation of a new vaccine either enhancing or replacing the 100-year-old BCG is urgently needed.

      Most subunit vaccines integrate protein antigens formulated with adjuvants and there are few examples of the performance of subunit vaccines integrating lipid antigens. Considering the hydrophobic and lipid nature of the mycobacterial cell envelope studies, assessing the suitability of mycobacterial lipids in vaccine formulations may contribute to generate new vaccines to tackle the disease.

      The mycobacterial lipid antigens under study are mycolic acids (MA), which are located at the cell wall covalently linked to arabinogalactan. These lipids carry extremely long chain fatty acids of up to 60-90 carbons.

      The group has previously shown that formulating MA into micellar nanocarriers and vaccinating mice intranasally it could activate CD1-restricted T cells. However, this formulation did not allow for the incorporation of protein antigens.

      This work is novel, and it brings new data of high relevance for the TB vaccine field pointing to alternative formulations and antigens and immune mechanisms.

      Authors assay different routes of vaccination but the main results are obtained using non-conventional vaccination routes. Although, it maybe out of the scope of the paper, no protection studies are provided.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Murphy, Fancy and Skene performed a reanalysis of snRNA-seq data from Alzheimer Disease (AD) patients and healthy controls published previously by Mathys et al. (2019), arriving at the conclusion that many of the transcriptional differences described in the original publication were false positives. This was achieved by revising the strategy for both quality control and differential expression analysis. I believe the authors' intention was to show the results of their reanalysis not as a criticism of the original paper (which can hardly be faulted for their strategy which was state-of-the-art at the time and indeed they took extra measures attempting to ensure the reliability of their results), but primarily to raise awareness and provide recommendations for rigorous analysis of sc/snRNA-seq data for future studies.

      STRENGTHS:

      The authors demonstrate that the choice of data analysis strategy can have a vast impact on the results of a study, which in itself may not be obvious to many researchers.

      The authors apply a pseudobulk-based differential expression analysis strategy (essentially, adding up counts from all cells per individual and comparing those counts with standard RNA-seq differential expression tests), which is (a) in line with latest community recommendations, (b) different from the "default options" in most popular scRNA-seq analysis suites, and (c) explains the vastly different number of DEGs identified by the authors and the original publication. The recommendation of this approach together with a detailed assessment of the DEGs found by both methodologies could be a useful finding for the research community. Unfortunately, it is currently not fully substantiated and is confounded with concurrent changes in QC measures (see weaknesses).

      The authors show a correlation between the number of DEGs and the number of cells assessed, which indicates a methodological shortcoming of the original paper's approach (actually, the authors of the original paper already acknowledged that the lesser number of DEGs for rare cell types was a technical artefact). To be educational for the reader it would be important to provide more information about the DEGs that were "found" and those that were "lost". Given vast inter-individual heterogeneity in humans, it is likely that the study was underpowered to find weaker differences using the pseudobulks (Fig. 1B shows that only genes with more than 4-fold change were found "significant").

      All code and data used in this study are publicly available to the readers.

      WEAKNESSES:

      The authors interpret the fact that they found fewer DEGs with their method than the original paper as a good thing by making the assumption that all genes that were not found were false positives. However, they do not prove this, and it is likely that at least some genes were not found due to a lack of statistical power and not because they were actually "incorrect". The original paper also performed independent validations of some genes that were not found here.

      I am concerned that the only DEGs found by the authors are in the rare cell types, foremost the rare microglia (see Fig. 1f). It is unclear to me how many cells the pseudo-bulk counts were based on for these cells types, but it seems that (a) there were few and (b) there were quite few reads per cells. If both are the case, the pseudobulk counts for these cell populations might be rather noisy and the DEG results are liable to outliers with extreme fold changes.

      The authors claim they improved the quality control of the dataset. While I do not think they did anything wrong per se, the authors offer no objective metric to assess this putative improvement. This is another major weakness of the paper as it confounds the results of the improved (?) differential analysis strategy and dilutes the results. I detail this weakness in the two following points:

      Removing low-quality cells: The authors apply a new QC procedure resulting in the removal of some 20k more cells than in the original publication. They state "we believe the authors' quality control (QC) approach did not capture all of these low quality cells" (l. 26). While all the QC metrics used are very sensible, it is unclear whether they are indeed "better". For instance, removal with a mitochondrial count of <5% seems harsh and might account for a large proportion of additional cells filtered out in comparison to the original analysis. There is no blanket "correct cutoff" for this percentage. For instance, the "classic" Seurat tutorial https://satijalab.org/seurat/articles/pbmc3k_tutorial.html uses the 5% threshold chosen by the authors, an MAD-based selection of cutoff arrived at 8% here https://www.sc-best-practices.org/preprocessing_visualization/quality_control.html, another "best practices" guide choses by default 10% https://bioconductor.org/books/3.17/OSCA.basic/quality-control.html#quality-control-discarded, etc. Generally, the % of mitochondrial reads varies a lot between datasets. As far as I can tell, the original paper did not use a fixed threshold but instead used a clustering approach to identify cells with an "abnormally high" mitochondrial read fraction. That also seems reasonable. Overall, I cannot assess whether the new QC is really more appropriate than the original analysis and the authors do not provide any evidence in favor of their strategy.

      Batch correction: "Dataset integration has become a standard step in single-cell RNA-Seq protocols" (l. 29). While it is true that many authors now choose to perform an integration step as part of their analysis workflow, this is by no means uncontroversial as there is a risk of "over-integration" and loss of true biological differences. Also, there are many different methods for dataset integration out there, which will all have different results. More importantly, the authors go on "we found different cell type proportions to the authors (Fig. 1a) which could be due to accounting for batch effects" but offer no support for the claim that the batch effects are indeed related to the observed differences. An alternative explanation would be a selective loss/gain of certain cell types during quality control. The original paper stated concerns about losing certain cell types (microglia, which do not seem to be differentially abundant in the original paper / new analysis).

      Relevant literature is incompletely cited. Instead of referring to reviews of best practices and benchmarks comparing methods for batch correction and or differential analysis, the authors only refer to their own previous work.

      Due to a lack of comparison with other methods and due to the fact that the author's methodology was only applied to a single dataset, the paper presents merely a case study, which could be useful but falls short of providing a general recommendation for a best practice workflow.

      APPRAISAL:

      The manuscript could help to increase awareness of data analysis choices in the community, but only if the superiority of the methodology was clearly demonstrated. The recommended pseudobulk differential expression approach along with the indication of drastic differences that this might have on the results is the main output of the current manuscript, but it is difficult to assess unequivocally how this influenced the results because the differential analysis comes after QC and cell type annotation, which have also been changed in comparison to the original publication. In my opinion, the purpose of the paper might be better served by focusing on the DE strategy without changing QC and instead detailing where/how DEGs were gained/lost and supporting whether these were false positives.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary: This paper takes on the important topic of preprocessing of single cell/nuclei RNA-seq prior to testing for differential gene expression. However, the manuscript has a number of critical weaknesses.

      Strengths: This is an important topic and a key dataset for illustration.

      Weaknesses: A major contribution is the use of the authors' own inhouse pipeline for data preparation (scFLOW), but this software is unpublished since 2021 and consequently not yet refereed. It isn't reasonable to take this pipeline as being validated in the field.

      The authors claim that Mathys' analysis didn't use batch correction prior to analysis and claim that such processing is routine in the field, but the only citation they give is to the above-mentioned scFLOW. Batch correction for DEG analysis isn't the field standard, for example, Bryois et al. (2022) PMID: 35915177 doesn't perform batch correction. Whether or not to do such preprocessing is certainly arguable, but the authors need to argue it, not presuppose it.

      The authors spend considerable effort in discounting the pseudoreplication analysis of Mathys. It is well understood that this analysis yields a lot of false positives, but Mathys only used this approach for removing genes, not as a valid test in and of itself. They also worry that the significant findings in Mathys' paper are influenced by the number of cells of each type. I'm sure it is since power is a function of sample size, but is this a bad thing? It seems odd that their approach is not influenced by sample size.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary: Cullinan et al. explore the hypothesis that the cytoplasmic N- and C-termini of ASIC1a, not resolved in x-ray or cryo-EM structures, form a dynamic complex that breaks apart at low pH, exposing a C-terminal binding site for RIPK1, a regulator of necrotic cell death. They expressed channels tagged at their N- and C-termini with the fluorescent, non-canonical amino acid ANAP in CHO cells using amber stop-codon suppression. Interaction between the termini was assessed by FRET between ANAP and colored transition metal ions bound either to a cysteine reactive chelator attached to the channel (TETAC) or metal-chelating lipids (C18-NTA). A key advantage to using metal ions is that they are very poor FRET acceptors, i.e. they must be very close to the donor for FRET to occur. This is ideal for measuring small distances/changes in distance on the scales expected from the initial hypothesis. In order to apply chelated metal ions, CHO cells were mechanically unroofed, providing access to the inner leaflet of the plasma membrane. At high pH, the N- and C- termini are close enough for FRET to be measured, but apparently too far apart to be explained by a direct binding interaction. At low pH, there was an apparent increase in FRET between the termini. FRET between ANAP on the N-and C-termini and metal ions bound to the plasma membrane suggests that both termini move away from the plasma membrane at low pH. The authors propose an alternative hypothesis whereby close association with the plasma membrane precludes RIPK1 binding to the C-terminus of ASIC1a.

      Strengths: The findings presented here are certainly valuable for the ion channel/signaling field and the technical approach only increases the significance of the work. The choice of techniques is appropriate for this study and the results are clear and high quality. Sufficient evidence is presented against the starting hypothesis.

      Weaknesses: I have a few questions about certain controls and assumptions that I would like to see discussed more explicitly in the manuscript.

      --My biggest concern is with the C-terminal citrine tag. Might this prevent the hypothesized interaction between the N- and C-termini? What about the serine to cysteine mutations? The authors might consider a control experiment in channels lacking the C-terminal FP tag.

      --Figure 2 supplement 1 shows apparent read-through of the N-terminal stop codons. Given that most of the paper uses N-terminal ANAP tags, this figure should be moved out of the supplement. Do N-terminally truncated subunits form functional channels? Do the authors expect N-terminally truncated subunits to co-assemble in trimers with full-length subunits? The authors should include a more explicit discussion regarding the effect of truncated channels on their FRET signal in the case of such co-assembly.

      --As the epitope used for the western blots in Figure 2 and supplements is part of the C-terminal tag, these blots do not provide an estimate of the fraction of C-terminally truncated channels (those that failed to incorporate ANAP at the stop codon). What effect would C-terminally truncated channels have on the FRET signal if incorporated into trimers with full-length subunits?

      --Some general discussion of these results in the context of trimeric channels would be helpful. Is the putative interaction of the termini within or between subunits? Are the distances between subunits large enough to preclude FRET between donors on one subunit and acceptor ions bound on multiple subunits?

      --The authors conclude that the relatively small amount of FRET between the cytoplasmic termini suggests that the interaction previously modeled in Rosetta is unlikely. Is it possible that the proposed structure is correct, but labile? For example, could it be that the FRET signal is the time average of a state in which the termini directly interact (as in the Rosetta model) and one in which they do not?

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The authors use previously characterised FRET methods to measure distances between intracellular segments of ASIC and with the membrane. The distances are measured across different conditions and at multiple positions in a very complete study. The picture that emerges is that the N- and C-termini do not associate.

      Strengths:<br /> Good controls, good range of measurements, advanced, well-chosen and carefully performed FRET measurements. The paper is a technical triumph. Particularly, given the weak fluorescence of ANAP, the extent of measurements and the combination with TETAC is noteworthy.

      The distance measurements are largely coherent and favour the interpretation that the N and C terminus are not close together as previously claimed.

      Weaknesses:<br /> One difficulty is that we do not have a positive control for what binding of something to either N- or C-terminus would look like (either in FRET or otherwise).

      One limitation that is not mentioned is the unroofing. The concept of interaction with intracellular domains is being examined. But the authors use unroofing to measure the positions, fully disrupting the cytoplasm. Thus it is not excluded that the unroofing disrupts that interaction. This should be mentioned as a possible (if unlikely) limitation.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary: The manuscript by Cullinan et al., uses ANAP-tmFRET to test the hypothesis that the NTD and CTD form a complex at rest and to probe these domains for acid-induced conformational changes. They find convincing evidence that the NTD and CTD do not have a propensity to form a complex. They also report these domains are parallel to the membrane and that the NTD moves towards, and the CTD away, from the membrane upon acidification.

      Strengths:<br /> The major strength of the paper is the use of tmFRET, which excels at measuring short distances and is insensitive to orientation effects. The donor-acceptor pairs here are also great choices as they are minimally disruptive to the structure being studied.

      Furthermore, they conduct these measurements over several positions with the N and C tails, both between the tails and to the membrane. Finally, to support their main point, MST is conducted to measure the association of recombinant N and C peptides, finding no evidence of association or complex formation.

      Weaknesses:<br /> While tmFRET is a strength, using ANAP as a donor requires the cells to be unroofed to eliminate background signal. This causes two problems. First, it removes any possible low affinity interacting proteins such as actinin (PMID 19028690). Second, the pH changes now occur to both 'extracellular' and 'intracellular' lipid planes. Thus, it is unclear if any conformational changes in the N and CTDs arise from desensitization of the receptor or protonation of specific amino acids in the N or CTDs or even protonation of certain phospholipid groups such as in phosphatidylserine. The authors do comment that prolonged extracellular acidification leads to intracellular acidification as well. But the concerns over disruption by unroofing/washing and relevance of the changes remain.

      The distances calculated depend on the R0 between donor and acceptor. In turn, this depends on the donor's emission spectrum and quantum yield. The spectrum and yield of ANAP is very sensitive to local environment. It is a useful fluorophore for patch fluorometry for precisely this reason, and gating-induced conformational changes in the CTD have been reported just from changes in ANAP emission alone (PMID 29425514). Therefore, using a single R0 value for all positions (and both pHs at a single position) is inappropriate. The authors should either include this caveat and give some estimate of how big an impact changes spectrum and yield might have, or actually measure the emission spectra at all positions tested.

      Overall, the writing and presentation of figures could be much improved with specific points mentioned in the recommendations for authors section.

      The authors argue that the CTD is largely parallel to the plasma membrane, yet appear to base this conclusion on ANAP to membrane FRET of positions S464 and M505. Two positions is insufficient evidence to support such a claim. Some intermediate positions are needed.

      Upon acidification, NTD position Q14 moves towards the plasma membrane (Figure 8B). Q14 also gets closer to C515 or doesn't change relative to 505 (Figures 7C and B) upon acidification. Yet position 505 moves away from the membrane (Figure 8D). How can the NTD move closer to the membrane, and to the CTD but yet the CTD move further from the membrane? Some comment or clarification is needed.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this manuscript, Nagel et al. sought to comprehensively characterize the composition of urinary compounds, some of which are putative chemosignals. They used urines from adult males and females in three different strains, including one wild-derived strain. By performing mass spectrometry of two classes of compounds: volatile organic compounds and proteins, they found that urines from inbred strains are qualitatively similar to those of a wild strain. This finding is significant because there is a high degree of genetic diversity in wild mice, with chemosensory receptor genes harboring many polymorphisms.

      In the second part of this work, the authors used calcium imaging to monitor the pattern of vomeronasal neuron responses to these urines. By performing pairwise comparisons, the authors found a large degree of strain-specific response and a relatively minor response to sex-specific urinary stimuli. This is a finding generally in agreement with previous calcium imaging work by Ron Yu and colleagues in 2008. The authors extend the previous work by using urines from wild mice. They further report that the concentration diversity of urinary compounds in different urine batches is largely uncorrelated with the activity profiles of these urines. In addition, the authors found that the patterns of vomeronasal neuron response to urinary cues are not identical when measured using different recipient strains. This fascinating finding, however, requires an additional control to exclude the possibility that this is not due to sampling error.

      There are several weaknesses in this manuscript, including the lack of analysis of the compositions of sulfated steroids and other steroids, which have been proposed to be the major constituents of vomeronasal ligands in urines and the indirect (correlational) nature of their mass spectrometry data and activity data.

      Overall, the major contribution of this work is the identification of specific molecules in mouse urines. This work is likely to be of significant interest to researchers in chemosensory signaling in mammals and provides a systematic avenue to exhaustively identify vomeronasal ligands in the future.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This manuscript by Nagel et al provides a comprehensive examination of the chemical composition of mouse urine (an important source of semiochemicals) across strain and sex, and correlates these differences with functional responses of vomeronasal sensory neurons (an important sensory population for detecting chemical social cues). The strength of the work lies in the careful and comprehensive imaging and chemical analyses, the rigor of quantification of functional responses, and the insight into the relevance of olfactory work on lab-derived vs wild-derived mice.

      With regards to the chemical analysis, the reader should keep in mind that a difference in the concentration of a chemical across strain or sex does not necessarily mean that that chemical is used for chemical communication. In the most extreme case, the animals may be completely insensitive to the chemical. Thus, the fact that the repertoire of proteins and volatiles could potentially allow sex and/or strain discrimination, it is unclear to what degree both are used in different situations.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The manuscript by Nagel et al. describes studies of mouse vomeronasal sensory neuron (VSN) tuning to mouse urine samples across different sexes and strains, including wild mice, alongside mass spectrometry analysis of the same samples. The authors performed live Ca2+ imaging (CAL520 dye) of VSNs in acute vomeronasal organ (VNO) slices to determine how VSNs are tuned to pairs of stimuli that differ in their origin (e.g. male C57BL/6 versus male BALB/c urine, male C57BL/6 versus female C57BL/6, etc.). For each pair of tested odorants, the results measure the proportion of VSNs that respond to both stimuli ("generalists") or just one of the two ("specialists"), as well as metrics of tuning preference and response reliability. The authors find in most cases that generalists make up a larger proportion of responsive VSNs than specialists, but several pairwise comparisons showed a high degree of strain selectivity. Notably, the authors evaluated VSN tuning in both male C57BL/6 and male BALB/c VNOs, finding strain-dependent differences in the representation of mouse urine. Alongside these measurements of VSN tuning, the authors report results of mass spectrometry analyses of volatiles and proteins in the same urine samples. These analyses indicated a number of molecules in each category that vary across sex and strain, and therefore represent candidate vomeronasal ligands. However, this study did not directly test whether any of these candidate molecules drives VSN activity, limiting the interpretability of these comparisons. Overall, this work provides useful information related to mouse vomeronasal chemosensation, but future work will be necessary to link the physiological measurements to the observed molecular diversity.

      Strengths:<br /> A strength of the current study is its focus on characterizing the neural responses of the VNO to urine derived from wild mice. The majority of existing vomeronasal system research has relied on the use of inbred strains for both neural response recordings and investigations of candidate vomeronasal system ligands. Inbreeding in laboratory environments may alter the chemical composition of bodily secretions, thereby potentially changing the information they contain. Moreover, the more homogeneous nature of inbred strains could be critical when studying the AOS mediated social aspects. If there exist noticeable differences in the chemical composition of secretions from wild animals compared to inbred strains, this would suggest that future research must consider natural sources of candidate ligands outside of inbred strains. This work identifies some intriguing differences - worthy of further exploration - between the urine composition of wild mice versus inbred mice, as well as disparities in how the VNO responds to urine from these different sources. However, the molecular composition and VNO responsiveness to wild mouse urine was found to be highly overlapping with inbred mouse urine, supporting the continued investigation of candidate ligands found in inbred mouse urine.

      Another positive aspect of this work is its use of the same set of stimuli as a previous study by the same authors (Bansal et al., 2021) in the downstream accessory olfactory bulb. The consistency in stimulus selection facilitates a comparison of information processing of sex and strain information from the sensory periphery to the brain. Although comparisons between the two connected regions are not a focus of this work, and methodological differences (e.g., Ca2+ imaging versus electrophysiology) may introduce caveats into comparisons, the support of "apples to apples" comparisons across connected circuits is critical to progress in the field.

      Finally, this study directly measured VSN tuning in both male C57BL/6 and male BALB/c VNOs, finding subtle but important differences in the representation of mouse urine in these two recipient strains. Given that there is a long history of research into strain-specific differences in social behavior, this research paves the way for future studies into how different mouse strains detect and process social chemosignals.

      Weaknesses:<br /> One of the primary objectives in this study is to ascertain the extent to which the response profiles of VSNs are specific to sex and strain. The design of these Ca2+ imaging experiments uses a simple stimulus design, using two interleaved bouts of stimulation with pairs of urine (e.g. male versus female C57BL/6, male C57BL/6 versus male BALB/c) at a single dilution factor (1:100). This introduces two significant limitations: (1) the "generalist" versus "specialist" descriptors pertain only to the specific pairwise comparisons made and (2) there is no information about the sensitivity/concentration-dependence of the responses.

      The functional measurements of VSN tuning to various pairs of urine stimuli are consistently presented alongside mass spectrometry-based comparisons. Although it is clear from the manuscript text that the mass spectrometry-based analysis was separated from the VSN tuning experiments/analysis, the juxtaposition of VSN tuning measurements with independent molecular diversity measurements gives the appearance to readers that these experiments were integrated (i.e., that the diversity of ligands was underlying the diversity of physiological responses). This is a hypothesis raised by the parallel studies, not a supported conclusion of the work. This data presentation style risks confusing readers.

      The impact of mass spectrometry findings is limited by the fact that none of these molecules (in bulk, fractions, or monomolecular candidate ligands) were tested on VSNs. It is possible that only a very small number of these ligands activate the VNO. The list of variably expressed proteins - especially several proteins that are preferentially found in female urine - is compelling, but, again, there is no evidence presented that indicates whether or not these candidate ligands drive VSN activity. It is noteworthy that the largest class of known natural ligands for VSNs are small nonvolatiles that are found at high levels in mouse urine. These molecules were almost certainly involved in driving VSN activity in the physiology assays (both "generalist" and "specialist"), but they are absent from the molecular analysis.

    1. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The Xerces Blue is an iconic species, now extinct, that is a symbol for invertebrate conservation. Using genomic sequencing of century-old specimens of the Xerces Blue and its closest living relatives, the authors hypothesize about possible genetic indicators of the species' demise. Although the limited range and habitat destruction are the most likely culprits, it is possible that some natural reasons have been brewing to bring this species closer to extinction.

      The importance of this study is in its generality and applicability to any other invertebrate species. The authors find that low effective population size, high inbreeding (for tens of thousands of years), and higher fraction of deleterious alleles characterize the Xerces colonies prior to extinction. These signatures can be captured from comparative genomic analysis of any target species to evaluate its population health.

      It should be noted that it remains unclear if these genomic signatures are indeed predictive of extinction, or populations can bounce back given certain conditions and increase their genetic diversity somehow.

      Methods are detailed and explained well, and the study could be replicated. I think this is a solid piece of work. Interested researchers can apply these methods to their chosen species and eventually, we will assemble datasets to study extinction process in many species to learn some general rules.

    2. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      The authors report a study, where they have sequenced whole genomes of four individuals of an extinct species of butterfly from western North America (Glaucopsyche xerces), along with seven genomes of a closely related species (Glaucopsyche lygdamus), mainly from museum specimens, several to many decades old. They then compare these fragmented genomes to a high-quality, chromosome-level assembly of a genome of a European species in the same genus (Glaucopsyche alexis). They find that the extinct species shows clear signs of declining population sizes since the last glacial period and an increase in inbreeding, perhaps exacerbating the low viability of the populations and contributing to the extinction of the species.

      The study really highlights how museum specimens can be used to understand the genetic variability of populations and species in the past, up to a century or more ago. This is an incredibly valuable tool, and can potentially help us to quickly identify whether current populations of rare and declining species are in danger due to inbreeding, or whether at least their genetic integrity is in good condition and other factors need to be prioritised in their conservation. In the case of extinct species, sequencing museum specimens is really our only window into the dynamics of genomic variability prior to extinction, and such information can help us understand how genetic variation is related to extinction.

      I think the authors have achieved their goal admirably, they have used a careful approach to mapping their genomic reads to a related species with a high-quality genome assembly. They might miss out on some interesting genetic information in the unmapped reads, but by and large, they have captured the essential information on genetic variability within their mapped reads. Their conclusions on the lower genetic variability in the extinct species are sound, and they convincingly show that Glaucopyche xerces is a separate species to Glaucopsyche lygdamus (this has been debated in the past).

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this study, the authors build upon previous research that utilized non-invasive EEG and MEG by analyzing intracranial human ECoG data with high spatial resolution. They employed a receptive field mapping task to infer the retinotopic organization of the human visual system. The results present compelling evidence that the spatial distribution of human alpha oscillations is highly specific and functionally relevant, as it provides information about the position of a stimulus within the visual field.

      Using state-of-the-art modeling approaches, the authors not only strengthen the existing evidence for the spatial specificity of the human dominant rhythm but also provide new quantification of its functional utility, specifically in terms of the size of the receptive field relative to the one estimated based on broad band activity.

      The present manuscript currently omits the complementary view that the retinotopic map of the visual system might be related to eye movement control. Previous research in non-human primates using microelectrode stimulation has clearly shown that neuronal circuits in the visual system possess motor properties (e.g. Schiller and Styker 1972, Schiller and Tehovnik 2001). More recent work utilizing Utah arrays, receptive field mapping, and electrical stimulation further supports this perspective, demonstrating that the retinotopic map functions as a motor map. In other words, neurons within a specific area responding to a particular stimulus location also trigger eye movements towards that location when electrically stimulated (e.g. Chen et al. 2020).

      Similarly, recent studies in humans have established a link between the retinotopic variation of human alpha oscillations and eye movements (e.g., Quax et al. 2019, Popov et al. 2021, Celli et al. 2022, Liu et al. 2023, Popov et al. 2023). Therefore, it would be valuable to discuss and acknowledge this complementary perspective on the functional relevance of the presented evidence in the discussion section.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> In this work, Yuasa et al. aimed to study the spatial resolution of modulations in alpha frequency oscillations (~10Hz) within the human occipital lobe. Specifically, the authors examined the receptive field (RF) tuning properties of alpha oscillations, using retinotopic mapping and invasive electroencephalogram (iEEG) recordings. The authors employ established approaches for population RF mapping, together with a careful approach to isolating and dissociating overlapping, but distinct, activities in the frequency domain. Whereby, the authors dissociate genuine changes in alpha oscillation amplitude from other superimposed changes occurring over a broadband range of the power spectrum. Together, the authors used this approach to test how spatially tuned estimated RFs were when based on alpha range activity, vs. broadband activities (focused on 70-180Hz). Consistent with a large body of work, the authors report clear evidence of spatially precise RFs based on changes in alpha range activity. However, the size of these RFs were far larger than those reliably estimated using broadband range activity at the same recording site. Overall, the work reflects a rigorous approach to a previously examined question, for which improved characterization leads to improved consistency in findings and some advance of prior work.

      Strengths:<br /> Overall, the authors take a careful and well-motivated approach to data analyses. The authors successfully test a clear question with a rigorous approach and provide strong supportive findings. Firstly, well-established methods are used for modeling population RFs. Secondly, the authors employ contemporary methods for dissociating unique changes in alpha power from superimposed and concomitant broadband frequency range changes. This is an important confound in estimating changes in alpha power not employed in prior studies. The authors show this approach produces more consistent and robust findings than standard band-filtering approaches. As noted below, this approach may also account for more subtle differences when compared to prior work studying similar effects.

      Weaknesses:<br /> -Theoretical framing: The authors frame their study as testing between two alternative views on the organization, and putative functions, of occipital alpha oscillations: i) alpha oscillation amplitude reflects broad shifts in arousal state, with large spatial coherence and uniformity across cortex; ii) alpha oscillation amplitude reflects more specific perceptual processes and can be modulated at local spatial scales. However, in the introduction this framing seems mostly focused on comparing some of the first observations of alpha with more contemporary observations. Therefore, I read their introduction to more reflect the progress in studying alpha oscillations from Berger's initial observations to the present. I am not aware of a modern alternative in the literature that posits alpha to lack spatially specific modulations. I also note this framing isn't particularly returned to in the discussion. A second important variable here is the spatial scale of measurement. It follows that EEG based studies will capture changes in alpha activity up to the limits of spatial resolution of the method (i.e. limited in ability to map RFs). This methodological distinction isn't as clearly mentioned in the introduction, but is part of the author's motivation. Finally, as noted below, there are several studies in the literature specifically addressing the authors question, but they are not discussed in the introduction.

      -Prior studies: There are important findings in the literature preceding the author's work that are not sufficiently highlighted or cited. In general terms, the spatio-temporal properties of the EEG/iEEG spectrum are well known (i.e. that changes in high frequency activity are more focal than changes in lower frequencies). Therefore, the observations of spatially larger RFs for alpha activities is highly predicted. Specifically, prior work has examined the impact of using different frequency ranges to estimate RF properties, for example ECoG studies in the macaque by Takura et al. NeuroImage (2016) [PubMed: 26363347], as well as prior ECoG work by the author's team of collaborators (Harvey et al., NeuroImage (2013) [PubMed: 23085107]), as well as more recent findings from other groups (Luo et al., (2022) BioRxiv: https://doi.org/10.1101/2022.08.28.505627). Also, a related literature exists for invasively examining RF mapping in the time-voltage domain, which provides some insight into the author's findings (as this signal will be dominated by low-frequency effects). The authors should provide a more modern framing of our current understanding of the spatial organization of the EEG/iEEG spectrum, including prior studies examining these properties within the context of visual cortex and RF mapping. Finally, I do note that the author's approach to these questions do reflect an important test of prior findings, via an improved approach to RF characterization and iEEG frequency isolation, which suggests some important differences with prior work.

      -Statistical testing: The authors employ many important controls in their processing of data. However, for many results there is only a qualitative description or summary metric. It appears very little statistical testing was performed to establish reported differences. Related to this point, the iEEG data is highly nested, with multiple electrodes (observations) coming from each subject, how was this nesting addressed to avoid bias?

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> This study tackles the important subject of sensory driven suppression of alpha oscillations using a unique intracranial dataset in human patients. Using a model-based approach to separate changes in alpha oscillations from broadband power changes, the authors try to demonstrate that alpha suppression is spatially tuned, with similar center location as high broadband power changes, but much larger receptive field. They also point to interesting differences between low-order (V1-V3) and higher-order (dorsolateral) visual cortex. While I find some of the methodology convincing, I also find significant parts of the data analysis, statistics and their presentation incomplete. Thus, I find that some of the main claims are not sufficiently supported. If these aspects could be improved upon, this study could potentially serve as an important contribution to the literature with implications for invasive and non-invasive electrophysiological studies in humans.

      Strengths:<br /> The study utilizes a unique dataset (ECOG & high-density ECOG) to elucidate an important phenomenon of visually driven alpha suppression. The central question is important and the general approach is sound. The manuscript is clearly written and the methods are generally described transparently (and with reference to the corresponding code used to generate them). The model-based approach for separating alpha from broadband power changes is especially convincing and well-motivated. The link to exogenous attention behavioral findings (figure 8) is also very interesting. Overall, the main claims are potentially important, but they need to be further substantiated (see weaknesses).

      Weaknesses:<br /> I have three major concerns:<br /> 1. Low N / no single subject results/statistics: The crucial results of Figure 4,5 hang on 53 electrodes from four patients (Table 2). Almost half of these electrodes (25/53) are from a single subject. Data and statistical analysis seem to just pool all electrodes, as if these were statistically independent, and without taking into account subject-specific variability. The mean effect per each patient was not described in text or presented in figures. Therefore, it is impossible to know if the results could be skewed by a single unrepresentative patient. This is crucial for readers to be able to assess the robustness of the results. N of subjects should also be explicitly specified next to each result.

      2. Separation between V1-V3 and dorsolateral electrodes: Out of 53 electrodes, 27 were doubly assigned as both V1-V3 and dorsolateral (Table 2, Figures 4,5). That means that out of 35 V1-V3 electrodes, 27 might actually be dorsolateral. This problem is exasperated by the low N. for example all the 20 electrodes in patient 8 assigned as V1-V3 might as well be dorsolateral. This double assignment didn't make sense to me and I wasn't convinced by the authors' reasoning. I think it needlessly inflates the N for comparing the two groups and casts doubts on the robustness of these analyses.

      3. Alpha pRFs are larger than broadband pRFs: first, as broadband pRF models were on average better fit to the data than alpha pRF models (dark bars in Supp Fig 3. Top row), I wonder if this could entirely explain the larger Alpha pRF (i.e. worse fits lead to larger pRFs). There was no anlaysis to rule out this possibility. Second, examining closely the entire 2.4 section there wasn't any formal statistical test to back up any of the claims (not a single p-value is mentioned). It is crucial in my opinion to support each of the main claims of the paper with formal statistical testing.

      While I judge these issues as crucial, I can also appreciate the considerable effort and thoughtfulness that went into this study. I think that addressing these concerns will substantially raise the confidence of the readership in the study's findings, which are potentially important and interesting.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This study investigates the impact of recurrent connections on grid fields generated in networks trained by adjusting the strength of feedforward spatial inputs. The main result is that if the recurrent connections in the network are given a 1D continuous attractor architecture, then aligned grid firing patterns emerge in the network following training. Detailed analyses of the low dimensional dynamics of the resulting networks are then presented. The simulations and analyses appear carefully carried out.

      The feedforward model investigated by the authors (previously introduced by Kropff & Treves, 2008) is an interesting and important alternative to models that generate grid firing patterns through 2-dimensional continuous attractor network (CAN) dynamics. However, while both classes of model generate grid fields, in making comparisons the manuscript is insufficiently clear about their differences. In particular, in the CAN models grid firing is a direct result of their 2-D architecture, either a torus structure with a single activity bump (e.g. Guanella et al. 2007, Pastoll et al. 2013), or sheet with multiple local activity bumps (Fuhs & Touretzky, Burak & Fiete, 2009). In these models, spatial input can anchor the grid representations but is not necessary for grid firing. By contrast, in the feedforward models neurons transform existing spatial inputs into a grid representation. Thus, the two classes of model implement different computations; CANs path integrate, while the feedforward models transform spatial representations. A demonstration that a 1D CAN generates coordinated 2D grid fields would be surprising and important, but it's less clear why coordination between grids generated by the feedforward mechanism would be surprising. As written, it's unclear which of these claims the study is trying to make. If the former, then the conclusion doesn't appear well supported by the data as presented, if the latter then the results are perhaps not so unexpected, and the imposed attractor dynamics may still not be relevant.

      Whichever claim is being made, it could be helpful to more carefully evaluate the model dynamics given predictions expected for the different classes of model. Key questions that are not answered by the manuscript include:

      - At what point is the 1D attractor architecture playing a role in the models presented here? Is it important specifically for training or is it also contributing to computation in the fully trained network?

      - Is an attractor architecture required at all for emergence of population alignment and gridness? Key controls missing from Figure 2 include training on networks with other architectures. For example, one might consider various architectures with randomly structured connectivity (e.g. drawing weights from exponential or Gaussian distributions).

      - In the trained models do the recurrent connections substantially influence activity in the test conditions? Or after training are the 1D dynamics drowned out by feedforward inputs?

      - What is the low dimensional structure of the input to the network? Can the apparent discrepancy between dimensionality of architecture and representation be resolved by considering structure of the inputs, e.g. if the input is a 2 dimensional representation of location then is it surprising that the output is too?

      - What happens to representations in the trained networks presented when place cells remap? Is the 1D manifold maintained as expected for CAN models, or does it reorganise?

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The authors proposed that grid cells may be aligned by simpler, 1D attractors, and they showed that the structure and the representational space of an attractor network can be two different topological objects.

      Strengths:<br /> It is very interesting that the toroidal topology of the population activity (the representational space) and the structure of the attractor network do not necessarily to be the same. The authors carried out extensive computational modeling to support such evidence. The results presented by the authors in this study could have an impact in the grid cell field, which will motivate future experimental studies to examine the detailed structure of the grid cell population.

      Weaknesses:<br /> The authors mentioned that "the recurrent collateral structure defines the geometry of the manifold..." and pointed out that this assumption is wrong. I am afraid this claim is too strong. The Gardner Torus paper showed evidence of the 2D CAN exists in the EC as a possible substrate of the grid pattern. Do the authors mean here that even the population activity in the grid cells show the torus structure, it does not necessarily mean that the grid cells form a 2D CAN? I understand that from the computational modeling view, it is doable to find counter-examples (like the 1D attractor network) in which the representational space is a torus but the structure is different. However, from the experimental view, do you expect that the grid cell network is a low-dimensional attractor network? To prove this, is there any evidence from the experimental data?

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      The paper proposes an alternative to the attractor hypothesis, as an explanation for the fact that grid cell population activity patterns (within a module) span a toroidal manifold. The proposal is based on a class of models that were extensively studied in the past, in which grid cells are driven by synaptic inputs from place cells in the hippocampus. The synapses are updated according to a Hebbian plasticity rule. Combined with an adaptation mechanism, this leads to patterning of the inputs from place cells to grid cells such that the spatial activity patterns are organized as an array of localized firing fields with hexagonal order. I refer to these models below as feedforward models.

      It has already been shown by Si, Kropff, and Treves in 2012 that recurrent connections between grid cells can lead to alignment of their spatial response patterns. This idea was revisited by Urdapilleta, Si, and Treves in 2017. Thus, it should already be clear that in such models, the population activity pattern spans a manifold with toroidal topology. The main new contributions in the present paper are (i) in considering some forms of recurrent connectivity that were not directly addressed before (but see comments below). (ii) in applying topological analysis to simulations of the model. (iii) in interpreting the results as a potential explanation for the observations of Gardner et al.

      Strengths:

      The exploration of learning in a feedforward model, when recurrent connectivity in the grid cell layer is structured in a ring topology, is interesting. The insight that this not only aligns the grid cells in a common direction but also creates a correspondence between their intrinsic coordinate (in terms of the ring-like recurrent connectivity) and their tuning on the torus is interesting as well, and the paper as a whole may influence future theoretical thinking on the mechanisms giving rise to the properties of grid cells.

      Weaknesses:

      1. It is not clear to me that the proposal here is fundamentally new. In Si, Kropff and Treves (2012) recurrent connectivity was dependent on the head direction tuning and thus had a ring structure. Urdapilleta, Si, and Treves considered connectivity that depends on the distance on a 2d plane.

      2. The paper refers to the connectivity within the grid cell layer as an attractor. However, would this connectivity, on its own, indeed sustain persistent attractor states? This is not examined in the paper. Furthermore, is this even necessary to obtain the results in the model? Perhaps weak connections that do not produce an attractor would be sufficient to align the spatial response patterns during the learning of feedforward weights, and reproduce the results? In general, there is no exploration of how the strength of collateral interactions affects the outcome.

      3. I did not understand what is learned from the local topology analysis. Given that all the grid cells are driven by an input from place cells that spans a 2d manifold, and that the activity in the grid cell network settles on a steady state that depends only on the inputs, isn't it quite obvious that the manifold of activity in the grid cell layer would have, locally, a 2d structure?

      4. The modeling is all done in planar 2d environments, where the feedforward learning mechanism promotes the emergence of a hexagonal pattern in the single neuron tuning curve. This, combined with the fact that all neurons develop spatial patterns with the same spacing and orientation, implies even without any topological analysis that the emerging topology of the population activity is a torus.

      However, the toroidal topology of grid cells in reality has been observed by Gardner et al also in the wagon wheel environment and in sleep, and there is substantial evidence based on pairwise correlations that it persists also in various other situations, in which the spatial response pattern is not a hexagonal firing pattern. It is not clear that the mechanism proposed in the present paper would generate toroidal topology of the population activity in more complex environments. In fact, it seems likely that it will not do so.

      5. Moreover, the recent work of Gardner et al. demonstrated much more than the preservation of the topology in the different environments and in sleep: the toroidal tuning curves of individual neurons remained the same in different environments. Previous works, that analyzed pairwise correlations under hippocampal inactivation and various other manipulations, also pointed towards the same conclusion. Thus, the same population activity patterns are expressed in many different conditions. In the present model, the results of Figure 6 suggest that even across distinct rectangular environments, toroidal tuning curves will not be preserved, because there are multiple possible arrangements of the phases on the torus which emerge in different simulations.

      6. In real grid cells, there is a dense and fairly uniform representation of all phases (see the toroidal tuning of grid cells measured by Gardner et al). Here the distribution of phases is not shown, but Figure 7 suggests that phases are non uniformly represented, with significant clustering around a few discrete phases. This, I believe, is also the origin for the difficulty in identifying the toroidal topology based on the transpose of the matrix M: vectors representing the spatial response patterns of individual neurons are localized near the clusters, and there are only a few of them that represent other phases. Therefore, there is no dense coverage of the toroidal manifold that would exist if all phases were represented equally. This is not just a technical issue, however: there appears to be a mismatch between the results of the model and the experimental reality, in terms of the phase coverage.

      7. The manuscript makes several strong claims that incorrectly represent the relation between experimental data and attractor models, on one hand, and the present model on the other hand. For the latter, see the comments above. For the former, I provide a detailed list in the recommendations to the authors, but in short: the paper claims that attractor models induce rigidness in the neural activity which is incompatible with distortions seen in the spatial response patterns of grid cells. However, this claim seems to confuse distortions in the spatial response pattern, which are fully compatible with the attractor model, with distortions in the population activity patterns, which would be incompatible with the attractor model. The attractor model has withstood numerous tests showing that the population activity manifold is rigidly preserved across conditions - a strong prediction (which is not made, as far as I can see, by feedforward models). I am not aware of any data set where distortions of the population activity manifold have been identified, and the preservation has been demonstrated in many examples where the spatial response pattern is disrupted. This is the main point of two papers cited in the present manuscript: by Yoon et al, and Gardner et al.

      8. There is also some weakness in the mathematical description of the dynamics. Mathematical equations are formulated in discrete time steps, without a clear interpretation in terms of biophysically relevant time scales. It appears that there are no terms in the dynamics associated with an intrinsic time scale of the neurons or the synapses, and this introduces a difficulty in interpreting synaptic weights as being weak or strong. As mentioned above, the nature of the recurrent dynamics within the grid cell network (whether it exhibits continuous attractor behavior) is not sufficiently clear.

      In my view, the weaknesses discussed above limit the ability of the model, as it stands, to offer a compelling explanation for the toroidal topology of grid cell population activity patterns, and especially the rigidity of the manifold across environments and behavioral states. Still, the work offers an interesting way of thinking on how the toroidal topology might emerge. Perhaps with certain additional elements this may motivate new theoretical insights.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> Mitochondria is the power plant of the cells including neurons. Thomas et al. characterized the distribution of mitochondria in dendrites and spines of L2/3 neurons from the ferret visual cortex, for which visually driven calcium responses of individual dendritic spines were examined. The authors analyzed the relationship between the position of mitochondria and the morphology or orientation selectivity of nearby dendrite spines. They found no correlation between mitochondrion location and spine morphological parameters associated with the strength of synapses, but correlation with the spine-somatic difference of orientation preference and local heterogeneity in preferred orientation of nearby spines. Moreover, they reported that the spines that have a mitochondrion in the head or neck are larger in size and have stronger orientation selectivity. Therefore, they proposed that "mitochondria are not necessarily positioned to support the energy needs of strong spines, but rather support the structurally and functionally diverse inputs."

      Strengths:<br /> This paper attempted to address a fundamental question: whether the distribution of the mitochondria along the dendrites of visual cortical neurons is associated with the functions of the spines, postsynaptic sites of excitatory synapses. Two state of the art techniques (2 photon Ca imaging of somata and spines and EM reconstructions of cortical pyramidal neurons) had been used, which provides a great opportunity to examine and correlate the function of spine ultrastructure and spatial distribution of dendritic mitochondria.

      Weaknesses:<br /> Overall, the findings are interesting. However, the study lacks the data providing insights into either the mechanisms or the functional meaning of the pattern of mitochondrion distribution along the dendrites, which restricts the significance of the study. It also suffers from small correlation coefficients and small sample sizes (60-121 spines in 4 neurons) as well as missing some important analysis.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> Mitochondria in synapses are important to support functional needs, such as local protein translation and calcium buffering. Thus, they may be strategically localized to maximize functional efficiency. In this study, the authors examine whether a correlation exists between the positioning of mitochondria and the structure or function of dendritic spines in the visual cortex of a ferret. Unexpectedly, the authors found no correlation between structural measures of synaptic strength to mitochondria positioning, which may indicate that they are not localized only because of the local energy needs. Instead, the authors discover that mitochondria are positioned preferably in spines that display heterogeneous responses, showing that they are localized to support specific functional needs probably distinct from ATP output.

      Strengths:<br /> The thorough analysis provides a yet unprecedented insight into the correlation between synaptic tuning and mitochondrial positioning in the visual cortex in vivo.

      Weaknesses:<br /> The study defined 1 μm and 5 μm as short and extended ranges relative to the synapse and examined the correlation between mitochondria volume and multiple parameters within that defined range. Results showed that mitochondria display preferences towards spines that respond differently to visual stimuli or areas with low local calcium activity. However, it is not known whether this mitochondria preference is a cause or a result of spine heterogeneity. It will be interesting to see the correlation of spine volume relative to mitochondrial positioning in 1µm and 5µm ranges around mitochondria.

      Analysis of this study suggested that mitochondrial volume does not correlate with the structural measure of synaptic strength (e.g. spine volume and post-synaptic density (PSD) area). However, the authors did not examine whether mitochondrial volume correlates to synaptic transmission frequency or plasticity. It may still be possible that mitochondria are localized in positions that exhibit a high frequency of transmission or a high degree of plasticity. Future studies will have to determine the underlying cause of mitochondria positioning preference.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary: This is a careful examination of the distribution of mitochondria in the basal dendrites of ferret visual cortex in a previously published volume electron microscopy dataset. The authors report that mitochondria are sparsely, as opposed to continuously distributed in the dendritic shafts, and that they tend to cluster near dendritic spines with heterogeneous orientation selectivity.

      Strengths: Volume EM is the gold standard for quantification of organelle morphology. An unusual strength of this particular dataset is that the orientation selectivity of the dendritic spines was measured by calcium imaging prior to EM reconstruction. This allowed the authors to assess how spines with varying selectivity are organized relative to mitochondria, leading to an intriguing observation that they localize to heterogeneous spine clusters. The analysis is carefully performed.

      Weaknesses: Using threshold distances between mitochondria and synapses as opposed to absolute distances may overlook important relationships in the data.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary<br /> In this manuscript, Hagihara et al. characterized the relationship between the changes in lactate and pH and the behavioral phenotypes in different animal models of neuropsychiatric disorders at a large-scale level. The authors have previously reported that increased lactate levels and decreased pH are commonly observed in the brains of five genetic mouse models of schizophrenia (SZ), bipolar disorder (BD), and autism spectrum disorder (ASD). In this study, they expanded the detection range to 109 strains or conditions of animal models, covering neuropsychiatric disorders and neurodegenerative disorders. Through statistical analysis of the first 65 strains/conditions of animal models which were set as exploratory cohort, the authors found that most strains showed decreased pH and increased lactate levels in the brains. There was a significant negative correlation between pH and lactate levels both at the strain/condition level and the individual animal level. Besides, only working memory was negatively correlated with brain lactate levels. These results were successfully duplicated by studying the confirmative cohort, including 44 strains/conditions of animal models. In all strains/conditions, the lactate levels were not correlated with age, sex, or storage duration of brain samples.

      Strengths<br /> 1. The manuscript is well-written and structured. In particular, the discussion is really nice, covering many potential mechanisms for the altered lactate levels in these disease models.<br /> 2. Tremendous efforts were made to recruit a huge number of various animal models, giving the conclusions sufficient power.

      Weaknesses<br /> 1. The biggest concern of this study is the limited novelty. The point of "altered pH and/or lactate levels in the brains from human and rodent animals of neuropsychiatric disorders" has been reported by the same lab and other groups in many previous papers.<br /> 2. This study is mostly descriptive, lacking functional investigations. Although a larger cohort of animal models were studied which makes the conclusion more solid, limited conceptual advance is contributed to the relevant field, as we are still not clear about what the altered levels of pH and lactate mean for the pathogenesis of neuropsychiatric disorders.<br /> 3. The experiment procedure is also a concern. The brains from animal models were acutely collected without cardiac perfusion in this study, which suggests that resident blood may contaminate the brain samples. The lactate is enriched in the blood, making it a potential confounded factor to affect the lactate levels as well as pH in the brain samples.<br /> 4. The lactate and pH levels may also be affected by other confounded factors, such as circadian period, and locomotor activity before the mice were sacrificed. This should also be discussed in the paper.<br /> 5. Another concern is the animal models. Although previous studies have demonstrated that dysfunctions of these genes could cause related phenotypes for certain disorders, many of them are not acknowledged by the field as reliable disease models. Besides, gene deficiency could also cause many known or unknown unrelated phenotypes, which may contribute to the altered levels of lactate and pH, too. In this circumstance, the conclusion "pH and lactate levels are transdiagnostic endophenotype of neuropsychiatric disorders" is somewhat overstated.<br /> 6. The negative correlationship between pH and lactate is rather convincing. However, how much the contribution of lactate to pH is not tested. In addition, regarding pH and lactate, which factor contributes most to the pathogenesis of neuropsychiatric disorders is also unclear. These questions may need to be addressed in the future study.<br /> 7. The authorship is open to question. Most authors listed in this paper may only provide mice strains or brain samples. Maybe it is better just to acknowledge them in the acknowledgments section.<br /> 8. The last concern is about the significance of this study. Although the majority of strains showed increased lactate, some still showed decreased lactate levels in the brains. These results suggested that lactate or pH is an endophenotype for neuropsychiatric disorders, but it is hard to serve as a good diagnostic index as the change is not unidirectional in different disorders. In other words, the relationship between lactate level and neuropsychiatric disorders is not exclusive.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Hagihara et al. conducted a study investigating the correlation between decreased brain pH, increased brain lactate, and poor working memory. They found altered brain pH and lactate levels in animal models of neuropsychiatric and neurodegenerative disorders. Their study suggests that poor working memory performance may predict higher brain lactate levels.

      However, the study has some significant limitations. One major concern is that the authors examined whole-brain pH and lactate levels, which might not fully represent the complexity of disease states. Different brain regions and cell types may have distinct protein and metabolite profiles, leading to diverse disease outcomes. For instance, certain brain regions like the hippocampus and nucleus accumbens exhibit opposite protein/signaling pathways in neuropsychiatric disease models.

      Moreover, the memory tests used in the study are specific to certain brain regions, but the authors did not measure lactate levels in those regions. Without making lactate measurements in brain-regions and cell types involved in these diseases, any conclusions regarding the role of lactate in CNS diseases is premature.

      Additionally, evidence suggests that exogenous treatment with lactate has positive effects, such as antidepressant effects in multiple disease models (Carrard et al., 2018, Carrard et al., 2021, Karnib et al., 2019, Shaif et al., 2018). It also promotes learning, memory formation, neurogenesis, and synaptic plasticity (Suzuki et al., 2011, Yang et al., 2014, Weitian et al., 2015, Dong et al., 2017, El Hayek et al. 2019, Wang et al., 2019, Lu et al., 2019, Lev-Vachnish et a.l, 2019, Descalzi G et al., 2019, Herrera-López et al., 2020, Ikeda et al., 2021, Zhou et al., 2021,Roumes et al., 2021, Frame et al., 2023, Akter et al., 2023).

      In conclusion, the relevance of total brain pH and lactate levels as indicators of the observed correlations is controversial, and evidence points towards lactate having more positive rather than negative effects. It is important that the authors perform studies looking at brain-region-specific concentrations of lactate and that they modulate lactate levels (decrease) in animal models of disease to validate their conclusions. it is also important to consider the above-mentioned studies before concluding that "altered brain pH and lactate levels are rather involved in the underlying pathophysiology of some patients with neuropsychiatric disorders" and that "lactate can serve as a potential therapeutic target for neuropsychiatric disorders".

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This study by Hormigo et al. examines the relationship between activity in the zona incerta (ZI) and behavior. The authors aim to assess the hypothesis that the ZI might mediate a general behavioral function, namely the distribution of information about ongoing movement to other brain areas that regulate behavior. Given the heterogeneity of prior literature on the ZI, this topic is important and interesting. The study employs a strong diversity of technical approaches, spanning electrophysiological recordings, calcium imaging, optogenetics, virally-mediated cell-type ablation, and several behavioral assays. The output is a large dataset where each experiment is useful and interesting, and together, the results could be interpreted as consistent with the prospect of the ZI mediating a general function. However, there are notable weaknesses in the current version of this paper. First, it is unclear whether the experiments and analyses were set up to be able to rule out more specific candidate functions of the ZI. Second, many important details of the experiments and their results are hard to decipher given the current descriptions and presentations of the data.

      The paper could be significantly strengthened by including more details from each experiment, stronger justifications for the limited behaviors and experimental analyses performed, and, finally, a broader analysis of how the recorded activity in the ZI relates to behavioral parameters.

      (1) Anatomical specification: The ZI contains many distinct subdivisions--each with its own topographically organized inputs/outputs and putative functions. The current manuscript doesn't reference these known divisions or their behavioral distinctions, and one cannot tell exactly which portion(s) of the ZI was included in the current study.

      Moreover, the elongated structure of the ZI makes it very difficult to specifically or completely infect virally. The data could be better interpreted if the paper included basic information on the locations of recordings, the extent of the AAV spread in the ZI in each viral experiment, and what fraction of infected neurons were inside versus outside ZI.

      (2) Electrophysiological recording on the treadmill: The authors are commended for this technically very difficult experiment. The authors do not specify, however, how they knew when they were recording in ZI rather than surrounding structures, particularly given that recording site lesions were only performed during the last recording session. A map of the locations of the different classes of units would be valuable data to relate to the literature.

      (3) The rationale of the analysis of activity with respect to "movement peak": It is unclear why the authors did not assess how ZI activity correlates with a broad set of movement parameters, but rather grouped heterogeneous behavioral epochs to analyze firing with respect to "movement peaks".

      (4) The display of mean categorical data in various figures is interesting, however, the reader cannot gather a very detailed view of ZI firing responses or potential heterogeneity with so little information about their distributions.

      (5) Somatosensory firing responses in ZI: It is unclear why the authors chose the specific stimuli used in the study. How often did they evoke reflexive motor responses? What was the latency of sensory-evoked responses in ZI activity and the latency of the reflexive movement?

      (6) It would be valuable to see example traces in Figure 3 to get a better sense of the time course and contexts under which Ca signals in ZI tracks movement. What is the typical latency? What is the typical range of magnitudes of responses? Does the Ca signal track both fast and slow movements? How are the authors sure that there are no movement artifacts contributing to the calcium imaging? It seems there is more information in the dataset that could be valuable.

      (7) Figure 4: The rationale for quantifying the F/Fo responses over a 6-second window, rather than with respect to discrete movement parameters, is not well explained. What types of movement are binned in this approach and might this broad binning hinder the ability to detect more specific relationships between activity and movement?

      (8) Separation of sensory and motor responses in Figure 5: The current data do not adequately differentiate whether the responses are sensory or motor given the high correlation of the sensory inputs driving motor responses. Because isoflurane can diminish auditory responses early in the auditory pathway, this reviewer is not convinced the isoflurane experiments are interpretable.

      (9) Given the broad duration of the mean avoidance response (Fig. 6 C, bottom), it would be useful to know to what extent this plot reflects a prolonged behavior or is the result of averaging different animals/trials with different latencies. Given that the shapes of the F/Fo responses in ZI appear similar across avoids and escapes (Fig. 6D), despite their apparent different speeds and movement durations (Fig 6C), it would be valuable to know how the timing of the F/Fo relates to movement on a trial-by-trial basis.

      (10) Lesion quantification: One cannot tell what rostral-caudal extent of ZI was lesioned and quantified in this experiment. It would be easier to interpret if also plotted for each animal, so the reader can tell how reliable the method is. The mean ablation would be better shown as a normalized fraction of cells. Although the authors claim the lesions have little impact on behavior, it appears the incompleteness of the lesions could warrant a more conservative interpretation.

      (11) Optogenetics: the location of infected neurons is poorly described, including the rostral-caudal extent and the fraction of neurons inside and outside of ZI. Moreover, it is unclear how strongly the optogenetic manipulations in this study are expected to affect neuronal activity in ZI.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The manuscript presents compelling evidence for the role of the zona incerta area of the brain in regulating movement and sensory stimuli in mice. The study uses an appropriate and validated methodology in line with the current state-of-the-art, including optogenetic manipulation and recording of single-unit activity. The authors' claims and conclusions are well-supported by their data, which includes a comprehensive review of previous research on the zona incerta. Overall, the manuscript provides solid evidence for the role of the zona incerta in regulating movement and sensory processing.

      Major strengths and weaknesses of the methods and results.<br /> The zona incerta has many integrative functions that link sensory stimuli with motor responses to guide behavior.<br /> The study explored the activation of zona incerta GABAergic neurons during cued avoidance tasks and found that these neurons activate during goal-directed avoidance movement. Optogenetic manipulation of these neurons affected movement speed and performance during active avoidance tasks.<br /> The findings suggest that the zona incerta area of the brain plays a significant role in regulating movement and responding to salient auditory tones in association with movement in mice. The evidence presented is fundamental and provides a comprehensive review of previous research on the zona incerta and its involvement in various behaviors and sensory processing.

      The article is very well written, with a correct hypothesis and a cutting-edge methodology to achieve the expected objectives. Moreover, they use statistical rigorous approaches in the analysis of the results. Also, analyzes are performed using scripts that automate all aspects of data analysis, ensuring their objectivity. The results are very novel, and provide solid evidence for the role of the zona incerta in regulating movement and sensory processing.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this paper, the interocular/binocular combination of temporal luminance modulations is studied. Binocular combination is of broad interest because it provides a remarkable case study of how the brain combines information from different sources. In addition, the mechanisms of binocular combination are of interest to vision scientists because they provide insight into when/where/how information from two eyes is combined.

      This study focuses on how luminance flicker is combined across two eyes, extending previous work that focused mainly on spatial modulations. The results appear to show that temporal modulations are combined in different ways, with additional differences between subcortical and cortical pathways.

      The manuscript has been revised to address prior reviewers' comments. It now provides more justification for the empirical choices made by the authors, and a better illustration of the methods. That said, the paper would still benefit from an expanded rationale for significance beyond this specific area. There were no substantive changes made to the abstract or introduction, and only little to the discussion.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Previous studies have extensively explored the rules by which patterned inputs from the two eyes are combined in visual cortex. Here the authors explore these rules for un-patterned inputs (luminance flicker) at both the level of cortex, using Steady-State Visual Evoked Potentials (SSVEPs) and at the sub-cortical level using pupillary responses. They find that the pattern of binocular combination differs between cortical and sub-cortical levels with the cortex showing less dichoptic masking and somewhat more binocular facilitation.

      Importantly, the present results with flicker differ markedly from those with gratings (Hou et al., 2020, J Neurosci, Baker and Wade 2017 cerebral cortex, Norcia et al, 2000 Neuroreport, Brown et al., 1999, IOVS. When SSVEP responses are measured under dichoptic conditions where each eye is driven with a unique temporal frequency, in the case of grating stimuli, the magnitude of the response in the fixed contrast eye decreases as a function of contrast in the variable contrast eye. Here the response increases by varying (small) magnitudes. The authors favor a view that cortex and perception pool binocular flicker inputs approximately linearly using cells that are largely monocular. The lack of a decrease below the monocular level when modulation strength increase is taken to indicate that previously observed normalization mechanism in pattern vision does not play a substantial role in the processing of flicker. The authors present of computational model of binocular combination that captures features of the data when fit separately to each data set. Because the model has no frequency dependence and is based on scalar quantities, it cannot make joint predictions for the multiple experimental conditions which one of its limitations.

      A strength of the current work is the use of frequency-tagging of both pupil and EEG responses to measure responses for flicker stimuli at two anatomical levels of processing. Flicker responses are interesting but have been relatively neglected. The tagging approach allows one to access responses driven by each eye, even when the other eye is stimulated which is a great strength. The tagging approach can be applied at both levels of processing at the same time when stimulus frequencies are low, which is an advantage as they can be directly compared. The authors demonstrate the versatility of frequency tagging in a novel experimental design which may inspire other uses, both within the present context and others. A disadvantage of the tagging approach for studying sub-cortical dynamics via pupil responses is that it is restricted to low temporal frequencies given the temporal bandwidth of the pupil. The inclusion of a behavioral measure and a model is also a strength, but there are some limitations in the modeling (see below).

      The authors suggest in the discussion that luminance flicker may preferentially drive cortical mechanisms that are largely monocular and in the results that they are approximately linear in the dichoptic cross condition (no effect of the fixed contrast stimulus in the other eye). By contrast, prior research using dichoptic dual frequency flickering stimuli has found robust intermodulation (IM) components in the VEP response spectrum (Baitch and Levi, 1988, Vision Res; Stevens et al., 1994 J Ped Ophthal Strab; France and Ver Hoeve, 1994, J Ped Ophthal Strab; Suter et al., 1996 Vis Neurosci). The presence of IM is a direct signature of binocular interaction and suggests that at least under some measurement conditions, binocular luminance combination is "essentially" non-linear, where essential implies a point-like non-linearity such as squaring of excitatory inputs. The two views are in striking contrast.

      In this revised manuscript, the addition of Figure 8, which shows more complete response spectra, partially addresses this issue. However, it also raises new questions. Critically, intermodulation (IM) has to be generated at or after a point of binocular combination, as it is a mixture of the two monocular frequencies and the monocular frequencies can only mix after a point of binocular combination.

      In equations 1 and 2 and in the late summation and two-stage models of Meese et al (2006), there are divisive binocular cross-links prior to a summation block. This division is a form of binocular interaction. Do equations 1 and 2 generate IM on their own with parameters used for the overall modeling? Multiplication of two inputs clearly does, as the authors indicate in their toy model. If not, then a different binocular summation rule than the one expressed in equation 3 needs to be considered to produce IM.

      The discussion considers flicker processing as manifest in the EEG to be largely monocular, given the relative lack of binocular facilitation and suppression effects. And yet there is robust IM. These are difficult to reconcile as it stands. The authors suggest that their generic modeling framework can predict IM, but can it predict IM with the parameters used to fit the data, e.g. with very low values of the weight of interocular suppression and no other binocular non-linearity?

      Determining whether IM can be generated by the existing non-linear elements in the model is important because previous work on dichoptic flicker IM has considered a variety of simple models of dichoptic flicker summation and has favored models involving either a non-linear combination of linear monocular inputs (Baitch and Levi, Vis Research, 1988) or a non-linear combination of rectified (non-linear) monocular inputs (Regan and Regan, Canadian J Neurol Sci, 1989). In either case, the last stage of binocular combination is non-linear, rather than linear. The authors' model is different - it has a stage of divisive binocular interaction and this "quasi-monocular" stage feeds a linear binocular combination stage.

      There is a second opportunity to test the proposed model that the authors could take advantage of. In the initial review, two of the reviewers were curious about what is predicted for counter-phase inputs to the two eyes. The authors indicate that the class of models they are using could be extended to cover this case. As it turns out, this experiment has been done for dichoptic full-field flicker (Sherrington, BrJPsychiatr, 1904); van der Tweel and Estevez, Ophthalmologica, 1974; Odom and Chao, IntJNeurosci, 1995; Cavonius, QJExpPsych, 1979; Levi et al., BJO, 1982). More importantly, the predictions of several binocular combination models for anti-phase inter-ocular flicker stimulation have been tested for both the VEP and psychophysics (Odom and Chao, Int J Neurosci). Varying the relative phase of the two eyes inputs from in phase to antiphase, Odom and Chao observed that the 2nd harmonic response went to a minimum at 90 deg of interocular phase. This will happen because a 2nd order nonlinearity in the monocular path will double the phase shift of the second harmonic, putting the two eyes' 2nd harmonic response out of phase when the interocular phase is 90 deg. Summing these inputs thus leads to cancellation at 90 deg, rather than 180 deg of interocular phase. Does the authors' model predict this behavior with typical parameters used in the modeling? In the end, to account for details of both VEP and psychophysical data, Odom and Chao favored a two-path model with one path comprising non-linear monocular inputs being combined linearly and a second path combining linear monocular inputs at a non-linear binocular stage. A similar set of results and models has been developed for inter-ocular presentation of gratings (Zemon et al., PNAS, 1995).

      The Odom/Chao/Zemon VEP and psychophysical data are directly relevant to the authors' work and need to be taken into account in sufficient detail so that we can judge the consistency of the proposed framework with their data and the similarities and differences in the model predictions for dichoptic flicker combination. These models are also relevant to the generation of IM, a concern raised above.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      The goal of the authors is to use whole-exome sequencing to identify genomic factors contributing to asthenoteratozoospermia and male infertility. Using whole-exome sequencing, they discovered homozygous ZMYND12 variants in four unrelated patients. They examined the localization of key sperm tail components in sperm from the patients. To validate the findings, they knocked down the ortholog in Trypanosoma brucei. They further dissected the complex using co-immunoprecipitation and comparative proteomics with samples from Trypanosoma and Ttc29 KO mice. They concluded that ZMYND12 is a new asthenoteratozoospermia-associated gene, bi-allelic variants of which cause severe flagellum malformations and primary male infertility.

      The major strengths are that the authors used the cutting-edge technique, whole-exome sequencing, to identify genes associated with male infertility, and used a new model organism, Trypanosoma brucei to validate the findings, together with other high-throughput tools, including comparative proteomics to dissect the protein complex essential for normal sperm formation/function. The major weakness is that limited samples could be collected from the patients for further characterization by other approaches, including western blotting and TEM.

      In general, the authors achieved their goal, and the conclusion is supported by their results. The findings not only provide another genetic marker for the diagnosis of asthenoteratozoospermia but also enrich the knowledge of cilia/flagella.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The manuscript by Dacheux et al. reported homozygous deleterious variants of ZMYND12 in four unrelated men with asthenoteratozoospermia. Based on the immunofluorescence assays in human sperm cells, it was shown that ZMYND12 deficiency altered the localization of DNAH1, DNALI1, WDR66 and TTC29 (four of the known key proteins involved in sperm flagellar formation). Trypanosoma brucei and mouse models were further employed for mechanistic studies, which revealed that ZMYND12 is part of the same axonemal complex as TTC29 and DNAH1. Their findings are solid, and this manuscript will be very informative for clinicians and basic researchers in the field of human infertility.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      In this study, the authors identified homozygous ZMYND12 variants in four unrelated patients. In sperm cells from these individuals, immunofluorescence revealed altered localization of DNAH1, DNALI1, WDR66, and TTC29. Axonemal localization of ZMYND12 ortholog TbTAX-1 was confirmed using the Trypanosoma brucei model. RNAi knock-down of TbTAX-1 dramatically affected flagellar motility, with a phenotype similar to ZMYND12-variant-bearing human sperm. Co-immunoprecipitation and ultrastructure expansion microscopy in T. brucei revealed TbTAX-1 to form a complex with TTC29. Comparative proteomics with samples from Trypanosoma and Ttc29 KO mice identified a third member of this complex: DNAH1. The data presented revealed that ZMYND12 is part of the same axonemal complex as TTC29 and DNAH1, which is critical for flagellum function and assembly in humans, and Trypanosoma. The manuscript is informative for the clinical and basic researchers in the field of spermatogenesis and male infertility.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      It has been shown previously that maternal aging in mice is associated with an increase in accumulation of damaged mitochondria and activation of parkin-mediated autophagy (see DOI: 10.1080/15548627.2021.1946739). It has also been shown that C-natriuretic peptide (CNP) regulates oocyte meiotic arrest and that its use during in vitro oocyte maturation can improve parameters associated with decreased oocyte quality. Here the authors tested whether use of CNP treatment in vivo could improve oocyte quality and fertility of aged mice, for which they provided convincing evidence. They also attempted to determine how CNP improves oocyte developmental competence. They showed a correlation between CNP use in vivo and the appearance (and some functional qualities) of cytoplasmic organelles more closely approximating those of oocytes from young mice. However, this correlation could not be interpreted to imply causation. Additional experiments performed using CNP during in vitro maturation were not properly controlled and so are not possible to interpret.

      A strength of the manuscript is that the authors use an in vivo treatment to improve oocyte quality rather than just using CNP during oocyte maturation in vitro as has been done previously. This strategy provides more potential for improving oocyte quality - over the course of oocyte growth and maturation - rather than just the final few hours of maturation alone. This strategy also has the potential to be translated into a more generally useful clinical therapeutic method that using CNP during in vitro maturation. However, it is difficult to glean information regarding how CNP might have its effects in vivo. A range of models are used in the manuscript with a mix of in vivo studies with in vitro experiments, which results in some disconnect between systemic CNP and its reported intrafollicular action as well as in the short-term versus longer-term actions of CNP on oocyte quality. Specifically, CNP was shown to be reduced in the plasma of aged mice, but this was not shown in the granulosa cells, which are the reported source of CNP that acts on oocytes. Whether the ovarian source of CNP is reduced in aged females was not demonstrated, and CNP is not known to act on oocytes through an endocrine effect. In vivo treatments with CNP by i.p. injection were performed, but the dose (120 ug/kg) and time (14 days) of treatment were not validated by any prior experiments to give them physiological relevance.

      Weaknesses:

      1. The Results section is not always clear regarding what CNP treatment was done - in vivo injections or in vitro maturation. For example, what is the difference, if any, between Figures 2C-D and Figures S2A-B?

      This remains unclear in the revised manuscript.

      2. Immature oocytes from aged females (~1 year) were treated with a two-step culture system with a pre-IVM step with CNP. Controls included oocytes from young (6-8 weeks) females or oocytes from aged females treated by conventional IVM. The description of these methods suggests that control oocytes did not receive an equivalent pre-IVM culture, hence the relevance of comparisons of CNP-treated versus control oocyte is questionable. This concern has not been addressed in the revised manuscript. It was observed that aged oocytes pre-cultured in CNP improved polar body extrusion rates and meiotic spindle morphology compared to oocytes in conventional IVM, as has been well established. The description of statistical methods does not make clear whether the PBE rate in CNP-treated old oocytes remained significantly lower than young controls.

      This concern has not been addressed in the revised manuscript.

      3. The main effect of the CNP 2-week treatment appears to be increasing the number of follicles that grow into secondary and antral stages, but there is no attempt made to discover the mechanism by which this occurs and therefore to understand why there might be an increase in the number of ovulated eggs, quality of the eggs, and litter size. It is also not clear how an intraperitoneal injection can guarantee its effectiveness because the half-life of CNP is very short, only a few minutes.

      This concern has not been addressed in the revised manuscript.

      4. Meiotic spindle morphology, as well as a number of putative markers of cytoplasmic maturation are also suggested to be improved after pre-culture with CNP. In each case a subjective interpretation of "normal" morphology of these markers is derived from observations of the young controls and the proportions of oocytes with normal or abnormal appearance is evaluated. However, parameters that define abnormal patterns of these markers appear to be subjective judgements, and whether these morphological patterns can be mechanistically attributed to the differences in developmental potential cannot be concluded.

      This concern has not been addressed in the revised manuscript.

      5. In addition to the localization patterns of mitochondria, the mitochondrial membrane potential, oocyte ATP content and ROS levels were assessed through more objective quantitative methods. These are well known to be defective in oocytes of aged females and CNP treatment improved these measures. Mitochondrial dysfunction is the most obvious link between oocyte apoptosis, autophagy, cytoplasmic organelle miss-localization and aberrant spindle morphology. Among the most intriguing results is the finding that CNP mediated a cAMP-dependent protein kinase (PKA) dependent reduction in mitochondrial autophagy mediators PINK and Parkin and reduced the recruitment of Parkin to mitochondria in oocytes. However, it may not be possible to directly link this observation to the improvements in IVM oocyte quality, since PINK/Parkin assessments were performed in oocytes from cultured follicles treated with CNP for 6 days.

      This weakness has not been addressed in the revised manuscript.

      6. The gold standard assay for oocyte quality is embryo transfer and live birth. The authors assessed the impact of maturing oocytes in vitro in the presence of CNP on oocyte quality by less robust assays (e.g., preimplantation embryo development in vitro), so the impact on oocyte quality is less certain.

      This weakness has not been addressed in the revised manuscript.

      7. The numbers of embryos should have been corrected for the number of eggs fertilized as a starting point so that the percentage that developed to each stage could be expressed as a percentage of successfully fertilized eggs rather than overall percentages. As currently shown in the Figures and described in the Legend, there is no information regarding what the percentage on the y-axis means. For example, does Figure 4B show the number of 2C embryos divided by the number of eggs inseminated? Or is it divided by the number of successfully fertilized eggs, and if so, how was that assessed?

      There is no additional information provided in the revised manuscript to address these concerns.

      8. When fewer eggs are fertilized, the numbers of embryos per group are lower and so the impact of culturing multiple embryos together is lost. As a result, it is possible that culture conditions rather than oocyte quality drove the differences in the numbers of embryos that achieved each stage of development.

      This concern has not been addressed in the revised manuscript. Similar numbers of oocytes were cultured together, but not similar numbers of fertilized oocytes, or embryos.

      9. Not all claims in the Discussion are supported by the evidence provided. For example, "In addition, the findings demonstrated that CNP improved cytoplasmic maturation events by maintaining normal CG, ER and Golgi apparatus distribution and function in aged oocytes" but it was never demonstrated that the altered distribution had any functional impact.

      This concern has not been addressed in the revised manuscript.

      10. Incompleteness and errors in the Methods section reduce confidence in many of the results reported.

      This concern has not been addressed in the revised manuscript.

      11. The methods used for Statistical Analysis are never explained in either the Methods or the Figure legends. It is unclear whether appropriate analyses were done, and it is frequently unclear what was the sample size and how many times a particular experiment was repeated. These weaknesses detract from confidence in the data.

      This concern has not been addressed adequately in the revised manuscript.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The authors found that the age-related reduction in the serum CNP concentration was highly correlated with decreased oocyte quality. Treatment with exogenous CNP promoted follicle growth and ovulation in aged mice and enhanced meiotic competency and fertilization ability. The cytoplasmic maturation of aged oocytes was thoroughly improved by CNP treatment. CNP treatment also ameliorated DNA damage and apoptosis caused by ROS accumulation in aged oocytes. CNP reversed the defective phenotypes in aged oocytes by alleviating oxidative damage and suppressing excessive PINK1/Parkin-mediated mitophagy. CNP functioned as a cAMP/PKA pathway modulator to decrease PINK1 stability and inhibit Parkin recruitment. CNP may be used to improve the overall success rates of clinically assisted reproduction in older women.

      The author has modified the text and the level of the article has been improved. Additional experiments will further enhance the credibility of the article.

      1)The control also needs to be pre-cultured as that in CNP treatment.

      2)The mechanism is done 6 days later after CNP treatment. It is hard to know whether it is direct or indirect.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This manuscript describes a series of experiments documenting trophic egg production in a species of harvester ant, Pogonomyrmex rugosus. In brief, queens are the primary trophic egg producers, there is seasonality and periodicity to trophic egg production, trophic eggs differ in many basic dimensions and contents relative to reproductive eggs, and diets supplemented with trophic eggs had an effect on the queen/worker ratio produced (increasing worker production).

      The manuscript is very well prepared and the methods are sufficient. The outcomes are interesting and help fill gaps in knowledge, both on ants as well as insects, more generally. More context could enrich the study and flow could be improved.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The manuscript by Genzoni et al. provides evidence that trophic eggs laid by the queen in the ant Pogonomyrmex rugosis have an inhibitory effect on queen development. The authors also compare a number of features of trophic eggs, including protein, DNA, RNA, and miRNA content, to reproductive eggs. To support their argument that trophic eggs have an inhibitory effect on queen development, the authors show that trophic eggs have a lower content of protein, triglycerides, glycogen, and glucose than reproductive eggs, and that their miRNA distributions are different relative to reproductive eggs. Although the finding of an inhibitory influence of trophic eggs on queen development is indeed arresting, the egg cross-fostering experiment that supports this finding can be effectively boiled down to a single figure (Figure 6). The rest of the data are supplementary and correlative in nature (and can be combined), especially the miRNA differences shown between trophic and reproductive eggs. This means that the authors have not yet identified the mechanism through which the inhibitory effect on queen development is occurring. To this reviewer, this finding is more appropriate as a short report and not a research article. A full research article would be warranted if the authors had identified the mechanism underlying the inhibitory effect on queen development. Furthermore, the article is written poorly and lacks much background information necessary for the general reader to properly evaluate the robustness of the conclusions and to appreciate the significance of the findings.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      In "Trophic eggs affect caste determination in the ant Pogonomyrmex rugosus" Genzoni et al. probe a fundamental question in sociobiology, what are the molecular and developmental processes governing caste determination? In many social insect lineages, caste determination is a major ontogenetic milestone that establishes the discrete queen and worker life histories that make up the fundamental units of their colonies. Over the last century, mechanisms of caste determination, particularly regulators of caste during development, have remained relatively elusive. Here, Genzoni et al. discovered an unexpected role for trophic eggs in suppressing queen development - where bi-potential larvae fed trophic eggs become significantly more likely to develop into workers instead of gynes (new queens). These results are unexpected, and potentially paradigm-shifting, given that previously trophic eggs have been hypothesized to evolve to act as an additional intra-colony resource for colonies in potentially competitive environments or during specific times in colony ontogeny (colony foundation), where additional food sources independent of foraging would be beneficial. While the evidence and methods used are compelling (e.g., the sequence of reproductive vs. trophic egg deposition by single queens, which highlights that the production of trophic eggs is tightly regulated), the connective tissue linking many experiments is missing and the downstream mechanism is speculative (e.g., whether miRNA, proteins, triglycerides, glycogen levels in trophic eggs is what suppresses queen development). Overall, this research elevates the importance of trophic eggs in regulating queen and worker development but how this is achieved remains unknown.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      First, I agree with the authors of this manuscript that conformational changes in the XFEL structures with 2.8 A resolution are not reliable enough for demonstrating the subtle changes in the electron transfer events in this bacterial photosynthesis system. Actually, the data statistics in the paper by Dods et al. showed that the high-resolution range of some of the XFEL datasets may include pretty high noise (low CC1/2 and high Rsplit) so the comparison of the subtle conformational changes of the structures is problematic.

      The manuscript by Gai Nishikawa investigated time-dependent changes in the energetics of the electron transfer pathway based on the structures by Dods et al. by calculating redox potential of the active and inactive branches in the structures and found no clear link between the time-dependent structural changes and the electron transfer events in the XFEL structures published by Dods, R.et al. (2021). This study provided validation for the interpretation of the structures of those electron-transferring proteins.

      The paper was well prepared.

      Comments on latest version:

      The revisions the authors have made have improved the manuscript.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The manuscript by Nishikawa et al. addresses time-dependent changes in the electron transfer energetics in the photosynthetic reaction center from Blastochloris viridis, whose time-dependent structural changes upon light illumination were recently demonstrated by time-resolved serial femtosecond crystallography (SFX) using X-ray free-electron laser (XFEL) (Dods et al., Nature, 2021). Based on the redox potential Em values of bacteriopheophytin in the electron transfer active branch (BL) by solving the linear Poisson-Boltzmann equation, the authors found that Em(HL) values in the charge-separated 5-ps structure obtained by XFEL are not clearly changed, suggesting that the P+HL- state is not stabilized owing to protein reorganization. Furthermore, chlorin ring deformation upon HL- formation, which was expected from their QM/MM calculation, is not recognized in the 5-ps XFEL structure. Then the authors concluded that the structural changes in the XFEL structures are not related to the actual time course of charge separation. They argued that their calculated changes in Em and chlorin ring deformations using the XEFL structures may reflect the experimental errors rather than the real structural changes; they mentioned this problem is due to the fact that the XFEL structures were obtained at not high resolutions (mostly at 2.8 Å). I consider that their systematic calculations may suggest a useful theoretical interpretation of the XFEL study.

      Comments on latest version:

      The authors have satisfied my concerns. I consider that their present manuscript is more attractive and informative for readers.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary: This paper performs fine-mapping of the silkworm mutants bd and its fertile allelic version, bdf, narrowing down the causal intervals to a small interval of a handful of genes. In this region, the gene orthologous to mamo is impaired by a large indel, and its function is later confirmed using expression profiling, RNAi, and CRISPR KO. All these experiments are convincingly showing that mamo is necessary for the suppression of melanic pigmentation in the silkworm larval integument.

      The authors also use in silico and in vitro assays to probe the potential effector genes that mamo may regulate.

      Strengths: The genotype-to-phenotype workflow, combining forward (mapping) and reverse genetics (RNAi and CRISPR loss-of-function assays) linking mamo to pigmentation are extremely convincing.

      Weaknesses:

      1) The last section of the results, entitled "Downstream target gene analysis" is primarily based on in silico genome-wide binding motif predictions.<br /> While the authors identify a potential binding site using EMSA, it is unclear how much this general approach over-predicted potential targets. While I think this work is interesting, its potential caveats are not mentioned. In fact the Discussion section seems to trust the high number of target genes as a reliable result. Specifically, the authors correctly say: "even if there are some transcription factor-binding sites in a gene, the gene is not necessarily regulated by these factors in a specific tissue and period", but then propose a biological explanation that not all binding sites are relevant to expression control. This makes a radical short-cut that predicted binding sites are actual in vivo binding sites. This may not be true, as I'd expect that only a subset of binding motifs predicted by Positional Weight Matrices (PWM) are real in vivo binding sites with a ChIP-seq or Cut-and-Run signal. This is particularly problematic for PWM that feature only 5-nt signature motifs, as inferred here for mamo-S and mamo-L, simply because we can expect many predicted sites by chance.

      2) The last part of the current discussion ("Notably, the industrial melanism event, in a short period of several decades ... a more advanced self-regulation program") is flawed with important logical shortcuts that assign "agency" to the evolutionary process. For instance, this section conveys the idea that phenotypically relevant mutations may not be random. I believe some of this is due to translation issues in English, as I understand that the authors want to express the idea that some parts of the genome are paths of least resistance for evolutionary change (e.g. the regulatory regions of developmental regulators are likely to articulate morphological change). But the language and tone is made worst by the mention that in another system, a mechanism involving photoreception drives adaptive plasticity, making it sound like the authors want to make a Lamarckian argument here (inheritance of acquired characteristics), or a point about orthogenesis (e.g. the idea that the environment may guide non-random mutations).<br /> Because this last part of the current discussion suffers from confused statements on modes and tempo of regulatory evolution and is rather out of topic, I would suggest removing it.

      In any case, it is important to highlight here that while this manuscript is an excellent genotype-to-phenotype study, it has very few comparative insights on the evolutionary process. The finding that mamo is a pattern or pigment regulatory factor is interesting and will deserve many more studies to decipher the full evolutionary study behind this Gene Regulatory Network.

      Minor Comment :

      The gene models presented in Figure 1 are obsolete, as there are more recent annotations of the Bm-mamo gene that feature more complete intron-exon structures, including for the neighboring genes in the bd/bdf intervals. It remains true that the mamo locus encodes two protein isoforms.<br /> An example of the Bm-mamo locus annotation, can be found at : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/101738295<br /> RNAseq expression tracks (including from larval epidermis) can be displayed in the embedded genome browser from the link above using the "Configure Tracks" tool.

      Based on these more recent annotations, I would say that most of the work on the two isoforms remains valid, but FigS2, and particularly Fig.S2C, need to be revised.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The authors tried to identify new genes involved in melanin metabolism and its spatial distribution in the silkworm Bombyx mori. They identified the gene Bm-mamo as playing a role in caterpillar pigmentation. By functional genetic and in silico approaches, they identified putative target genes of the Bm-mamo protein. They showed that numerous cuticular proteins are regulated by Bm-mamo during larval development.

      Strengths:<br /> -preliminary data about the role of cuticular proteins to pattern the localization of pigments<br /> - timely question<br /> - challenging question because it requires the development of future genetic and cell biology tools at the nanoscale

      Weaknesses:<br /> - statistical sampling limited<br /> - the discussion would gain in being shorter and refocused on a few points, especially the link between cuticular proteins and pigmentation. The article would be better if the last evolutionary-themed section of the discussion is removed.

      A recent paper has been published on the same gene in Bombyx mori (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0965174823000760) in August 2023. The authors must discuss and refer to this published paper through the present manuscript.

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      This manuscript presents an important study that contributes to our understanding of the reliability of ancient environmental DNA (aeDNA) extracted from sediment cores. The authors address the potential biases and challenges associated with using aeDNA to infer past ecosystems, specifically focusing on the case of mammoths and woolly rhinoceroses in the Yamal peninsula, West Siberia.

      The introduction provides an overview of the significance of sedimentary deposits as archives of past ecosystem changes and illustrates the remarkable insights gained from previous studies using aeDNA, highlighting its potential for reconstructing paleoecology, phylogeography, and understanding extirpation and extinction events of keystone taxa. The authors then report the detection of DNA and near complete mitochondrial genomes of multiple mammoth and woolly rhinoceros individuals in the sampled sediment cores (which are dated to the last few centuries). The authors then employed additional methods to confirm the presence of ancient DNA from mammoths in these sediment cores. Conventional PCR and Sanger sequencing of a mammoth COI fragment confirmed the amplification of mammoth DNA. Mammal metabarcoding and droplet digital PCR (ddPCR) further supported the detection of mammoth DNA in both cores.

      The hybridisation enrichment experiment results showed high read counts assigned to Mammuthus, ranging from 2,852 to 72,919 reads per library in core LK-001. Negative controls did not produce any reads assigned to mammals, indicating the absence of contamination. The study also revealed the presence of woolly rhinoceros sequences in the sediment cores, with 12 out of 23 libraries producing more than 100 reads assigned to woolly rhinoceros. The total number of woolly rhinoceros reads was 2,737, and the cumulative mitogenome coverage reached 44%.

      The authors carefully addressed the incongruity between the temporal occurrence of these extinct species and the presence of their DNA in recent sediments. They proposed several mechanisms that could explain the recovery of Pleistocene megafaunal DNA in the sediment cores. The minor amount of ancient DNA post mortem damage observed in the mammoth sequences indicates exceptional preservation, consistent with an origin from (recent) permafrost. The dynamics of permafrost thawing and redeposition in the study area provide a plausible explanation for the presence of ancient DNA in the sediments. The authors discuss potential mechanisms for the redistribution of Late Pleistocene material in the sediments, including thermo-denudation processes, methane emissions from degrading permafrost, and the formation of taliks and methane seepage. These processes can disturb the stratigraphy of lake sediments and potentially mix ancient material within the modern sediments. I believe the conclusions are supported by the data and the manuscript is well-written and clear to follow for the reader.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The authors report the successful retrieval of mitogenomes from extinct Pleistocene megafauna (woolly Mammoth and woolly rhino) from recent sediment cores from two close Siberian lakes. The cores are too recent to represent real time points of these two extinct species (known to have been extinct for several thousands of years) and therefore, the most plausible interpretation is that permafrost thawing and similar physical processes in the lakes have made surface old ancient DNA, maybe from nearby, deep-buried carcasses.

      Strengths:<br /> The pattern of postmortem damage at the end of the Mammoth DNA reads as well as the length distribution (reported in Figure 1) is expected for authentic ancient DNA extracts (besides the phylogenetic evidence). These results pose a question, in my view, on the general reliability of sedimentary DNA in similar contexts, especially in the absence of direct radiocarbon dating of associated remains and in the absence of an understanding of the local geo-physical dynamics. At the same time, the evidence reported here suggests that, at least in Siberian lakes, the sediments can preserve a rich ancient DNA record that it is worth surveying.

      Weaknesses:<br /> Although admittedly the work can represent two cases of environments with singular thermal conditions and geodynamics, it opens also the possibility of studying more lake sediments for trying to understand if these findings can be generalized.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> In this study, the researchers used ancient environmental DNA (aeDNA) retrieved from sediment cores, from two lakes in the Arctic, on the Yamal peninsula, in Siberia. The dating of one of the cores, showed that the sediment layers were very recent (ranging between the years 2019 - 1895). From this core they sequenced 23 libraries which were enriched for mammal mitochondrial genomes. They found a high proportion of two species that have been extinct for thousands of years, the mammoth and the woolly rhinoceros. The highest proportion of mammoth reads were found in very young layer (~81 years old) and as this initial finding does not match the temporal occurrence of the species, they confirmed the identification with several other methods. Additionally, they applied a different dating method on some samples and found that the aging of the samples was not completely congruent. The authors suggest the that the presence of these two Pleistocene megafauna in such recent sediment layers is a consequence of physical processes, specific to the study site, and that the high quality of the aeDNA recovered is a result of permafrost preservation.

      Strengths:<br /> The strengths of the study are in the rigorous confirmation of the identification of the taxa with four different PCR and sequencing techniques being used, the initial enrichment panel, and then subsequent metabarcoding PCRs, and taxa specific PCR for COI and cytB. Along with the ancient DNA protocol applied, this is therefore very convincing that the DNA detected in the samples is indeed from the Pleistocene mammals. Additionally, two methods were used to age the sediment cores, and although the depth of the samples tested do not overlap, they give reasonable ages (apart from the anomalous sample) and all together these are robust results.

      Weaknesses:<br /> The paper could benefit from clearer aims in the introductions because as it stands the initial aim states that the authors are looking for Arctic mammal abundances through time. However, there are no results relating to general arctic mammal biodiversity presented, which leaves the reader wondering. Perhaps the focus of the study is more on identifying and dating the Pleistocene megafauna. Additionally, it is presented as an analysis on the two taxa, but it feels like the woolly rhinoceros does not receive the same treatment as the mammoth, as there are no additional molecular results, confirmation or figures relating to DNA from this taxa.

      Overall the results support that there has been some movement of DNA throughout the sediment core which may impact the dating of the last occurrence of particular extinct taxa. As highlighted, though the geological processes by which this may have arisen are specific to this particular lake and may not be broadly relevant, therefore highlighting that knowledge of each system is important to understanding DNA distribution.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This manuscript by Neininger-Castro and colleagues presents a novel automatic image analysis method for assessing sarcomeres, the basic units of myofibrils and validates this tool in a couple of experimental approaches that interfere with sarcomere assembly in iPSC-cardiomyocytes (iPSC-CM).

      Automatic quantification of sarcomeres is definitely something that is useful to the field. I am surprised that there is no reference in the manuscript to SarcTrack, published by Toepfer and colleagues in 2019 (PMID 30700234), which has exactly the same purpose. The advantage of the image analysis software presented in the current manuscript appears to me to be that it can cover both mature sarcomeres and nascent sarcomeres in premyofibrils effectively.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Neininger-Castro et al report on their original study entitled "Independent regulation of Z-lines and M-lines during sarcomere assembly in cardiac myocytes revealed by the automatic image analysis software sarcApp", In this study, the research team developed two software, yoU-Net and sarcApp, that provide new binarization and sarcomere quantification methods. The authors further utilized human induced pluripotent stem cell-derived cardiomyocytes (hiCMs) as their model to verify their software by staining multiple sarcomeric components with and without the treatment of Blebbistatin, a known myosin II activity inhibitor. With the treatment of different Blebbistatin concentrations, the morphology of sarcomeric proteins was disturbed. These disrupted sarcomeric structures were further quantified using sarcApp and the quantification data supported the phenotype. The authors further investigated the roles of muscle myosins in sarcomere assembly by knocking down MYH6, MYH7, or MYOM in hiCMs. The knockdown of these genes did not affect Z-line assembly yet the knockdown of MYOM affected M-line assembly. The authors demonstrated that different muscle myosins participate in sarcomere assembly in different manners.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Neininger-Castro and colleagues developed software tools for the quantification of sarcomeres and sarcomere-precursor features in immunostained human induced pluripotent stem cell-derived cardiac myocytes (hiCMs). In the first part they used a deep-learning- based model called a U-Net to construct and train a network for binarization of immunostained cardiomyocyte images. They also wrote graphical user interface (GUI) software that will assist other labs to use this approach and made it publicly available. They did not compare their approach to existing ones, but example from one image suggests their binarization tool outperforms Otsu thresholding binarization.

      In the second part they developed a software tool called sarcApp that classifies sarcomere structures in the binarized image as a Z-Line or Z-Body and assigns each to either a myofibril or to stress fibers. The tools can then automatically count and measure multiple features (33 per cell and 24 per myofibril) and report them on a per-cell, per-myofibril, and per- stress fiber basis.

      To test the tools they used Blebbistatin to inhibit sarcomere assembly and showed that the sarcApp tool could capture changes in multiple features such as fewer myofibrils, fewer Z-Lines, decreased myofibril persistence, decreased Z-Line length and altered myofibril orientation in the Blebbistatin treated cells. With some changes the tool was also shown to quantify sarcomeres in titin and myomesin stained cardiomyocytes.

      Finally they used sarcApp to quantify the changes in sarcomere assembly after siRNA mediated knockout of MYH7, MYH7, or MYOM. The analysis indicates that neither MYH6 nor MYH7 knockdown perturbed the assembly of Z- or M-lines, and that knockdown of MYOM perturbed the A-band/M-Line but not the Z-Line assembly according to features captured by the sarcApp tool.

      Overall the authors developed and made publicly available an excellent software tool that will be very useful for labs that are interested in studying sarcomere assembly. Multiple features that are difficult to measure or count manually can be automatically measured by the software quickly and accurately.

      There are however some remaining questions about these tools:<br /> 1. The binarization tool which is tailored to sarcomere image binarization appears promising but was not systematically compared with existing approaches. Example from one cell suggests it outperforms Otsu's binarization approach.<br /> 2. How robust is the tool? The tool was tested on images from one type of cardiomyocytes (hiCMs) taken from one lab using Nikon Spinning Disk confocal microscope equipped with Apo TIRF Oil 100X 1.49 NA objective or instant Structured Illumination Microscopy (iSIM), using deconvolution (Microvolution software) and in a specific magnification. It remains to be seen whether the tool would be equally effective with images taken with other microscopy systems, with other cardiomyocytes (chick or neonatal rat), with different magnifications, live imaging, etc. The authors state that this approach is also useful in other situations, but the data is not included in this manuscript.<br /> 3. The tool was developed for evaluation of sarcomere assembly. The authors show that for this application it can detect the perturbation by Blebbistatin, or knockdown of sarcomeric genes. It remains to be seen if this tool is also useful for assessment of sarcomere structure for other questions beside sarcomere assembly and in other sarcomere pathologies.

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      The authors use electrophysiological and behavioral measurements to examine how animals could reliably determine odor intensity/concentration across repeated experiences. Because stimulus repetition leads to short-term adaptation evidenced by reduced overall firing rates in the antennal lobe and firing rates are otherwise concentration-dependent, there could be an ambiguity in sensory coding between reduced concentration or more recent experience. This would have a negative impact on the animal's ability to generate adaptive behavioral responses that depend on odor intensities. The authors conclude that changes in concentration alter the constituent neurons contributing to the neural population response, whereas adaptation maintains the 'activated ensemble' but with scaled firing rates. This provides a neural coding account of the ability to distinguish odor concentrations even after extended experience. Additional analyses attempt to distinguish hypothesized circuit mechanisms for adaptation but are inconclusive. A larger point that runs through the manuscript is that overall spiking activity has an inconsistent relationship with behavior and that the structure of population activity may be the more appropriate feature to consider.

      To my knowledge, the dissociation of effects of odor concentration and adaptation on olfactory system population codes was not previously demonstrated. This is a significant contribution that improves on any simple model based on overall spiking activity. The primary result is most strikingly supported by visualization of a principal components analysis in Figure 4. However, there are some weaknesses in the data and analyses that limit confidence in the overall conclusions.

      1) Behavioral work interpreted to demonstrate discrimination of different odor concentrations yields inconsistent results. Only two of the four odorants follow the pattern that is emphasized in the text (Figure 1F). Though it's a priori unlikely that animals are incapable of distinguishing odor concentrations at any stage in adaptation, the evidence presented is not sufficient to reach this conclusion.<br /> 2) While conclusions center on concepts related to the combination of activated neurons or the "active ensemble", this specific level of description is not directly demonstrated in any part of the results. We see individual neural responses and dimensional reduction analyses, but we are unable to assess to what extent the activated ensemble is maintained across experience.<br /> 3) There is little information about the variance or statistical strength of results described at the population level. While the PCA presents a compelling picture, the central point that concentration changes and adaptation alter population responses across separable dimensions is not demonstrated quantitatively. The correlation analysis that might partially address this question is presented to be visually interpreted with no additional testing.<br /> 4) Results are often presented separately for each odor stimulus or for separate datasets including two odor stimuli. An effort should be made to characterize patterns of results across all odor stimuli and their statistical reliability. This concern arises throughout all data presentations.<br /> 5) The relevance of the inconclusive analysis of inferred adaptation mechanisms in Figure 2d-f and the single experiment including a complex mixture in Figure 7 to the motivating questions for this study are unclear.<br /> 6) Throughout the description of the results, typical standards for statistical reporting (sample size, error bars, etc.) are not followed. This prevents readers from assessing effect sizes and undermines the ability to assign a confidence to any particular conclusion.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The authors' main goal was to evaluate how both behavioral responses to odor, and their early sensory representations are modified by repeated exposure to odor, asking whether the process of adaptation is equivalent to reducing the concentration of an odor. They open with behavioral experiments that actually establish that repeated odor presentation increases the likelihood of evoking a behavioral response in their experimental subjects - locusts. They then examine neural activity patterns at the second layer of the olfactory circuit. At the population level, repeated odor exposure reduces total spike counts, but at the level of individual cells there seems to be no consistent guiding principle that describes the adaptation-related changes, and therefore no single mechanism could be identified.

      Both population vector analysis and pattern correlation analysis indicate that odor intensity information is preserved through the adaptation process. They make the closely related point that responses to an odor in the adapted state are distinct from responses to lower concentration of the same odor. These analyses are appropriate, but the point could be strengthened by explicitly using some type of classification analysis to quantify the adaptation effects. e.g. a confusion matrix might show if there is a gradual shift in odor representations, or whether there are trials where representations change abruptly.

      Strengths:<br /> One strength is that the work has both behavioral read-out of odor perception and electrophysiological characterization of the sensory inputs and how both change over repeated stimulus presentations. It is particularly interesting that behavioral responses increase while neuronal responses generally decrease. Although the behavioral effect could occur fully downstream of the sensory responses the authors measure, at least those sensory responses retain the core features needed to drive behavior despite being highly adapted.

      Weaknesses:<br /> Ultimately no clear conceptual framework arises to understand how PN responses change during adaptation. Neither the mechanism (vesicle depletion versus changes in lateral inhibition) nor even a qualitative description of those changes. Perhaps this is because much of the analysis is focused on the entire population response, while perhaps different mechanisms operate on different cells making it difficult to understand things at the single PN level.

      From the x-axis scale in Fig 2e,f it appeared to me that they do not observe many strong PN responses to these stimuli, everything being < 10 spikes/sec. So perhaps a clearer effect would be observed if they managed to find the stronger responding PNs than captured in this dataset.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> How does the brain distinguish stimulus intensity reduction from response reductions due to adaptation? Ling et al study whether and how the locust olfactory system encodes stimulus intensity and repetition differently. They show that these stimulus manipulations have distinguishable effects on population dynamics.

      Strengths:<br /> 1. Provides a potential strategy with which the brain can distinguish intensity decrease from adaptation. -- while both conditions reduce overall spike counts, intensity decrease can also changes which neurons are activated and adaptation only changes the response magnitude without changing the active ensemble.<br /> 2. By interleaving a non-repeated odor, they show that these changes are odor-specific and not a non-specific effect.<br /> 3. Describes how proboscis orientation response (POR) changes with stimulus repetition., Unlike the spike counts, POR increases in probability with stimulus. The data portray the variability across subjects in a clear way.

      Weaknesses:<br /> 1. Behavior<br /> a. While the "learning curve" of the POR is nicely described, the behavior itself receives very little description. What are the kinematics of the movement, and do these vary with repetition? Is the POR all-or-nothing or does it vary trial to trial?

      b. What are the reaction times? This can constrain what time window is relevant in the neural responses. E.g., if the reaction time is 500 ms, then only the first 500 ms of the ensemble response deserves close scrutiny. Later spikes cannot contribute.

      c. The behavioral methods are lacking some key information. While references are given to previous work, the reader should not be obligated to look at other papers to answer basic questions: how was the response measured? Video tracking? Hand scored?

      d. Can we be sure that this is an odor response? Although airflow out of the olfactometer is ongoing throughout the experiment, opening and closing valves usually creates pressure jumps that are likely to activate mechanosensors in the antennae.

      e. What is the baseline rate of PORs in the absence of stimuli?

      e.What can you say about the purpose of the POR? I lack an intuition for why a fly would wiggle the maxillary palps. This is a question that is probably impossible to answer definitively, but even a speculative explanation would help the reader better understand.

      2. Physiology<br /> a. Does stimulus repetition affect "spontaneous" activity (i.e., firing in the interstimulus interval? To study this question, in Figures 2b and c, it would be valuable to display more of the pre-stimulus period, and a quantification of the stability or lability of the inter-stimulus activity.

      b. When does the response change stabilize? While the authors compare repetition 1 to repetition 25, from the rasters it appears that the changes have largely stabilized after the 3rd or 4th repetition. In Figure 5, there is a clear difference between repetition 1-3 or so and the rest. Are successive repetitions more similar than more temporally-separated repetitions (e.g., is rep 13 more similar to 14 than to 17?). I was not able to judge this based on the dendrograms of Figure 5. If the responses do stabilize at it appears, it would be more informative to focus on the dynamics of the first few repetitions.

      c. How do temporal dynamics change? Locust PNs have richly varied temporal dynamics, but how these may be affected is not clear. The across-population average is poorly suited to capture this feature of the activity. For example, the PNs often have an early transient response, and these appear to be timed differently across the population. These structures will be obscured in a cross population average. Looking at the rasters, it looks like the initial transient changes its timing (e.g., PN40 responses move earlier; PN33 responses move later.). Quantification of latency to first spike after stimulus may make a useful measure of the dynamics.

      d. How legitimate is the link between POR and physiology? While their changes can show a nice correlation, the fact the data were taken from separate animals makes them less compelling than they would be otherwise. How feasible is it to capture POR and physiology in the same prep? This would be most helpful, but I suspect may be too technically challenging to be within scope.

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      The authors put forth the hypothesis that hepatocyte and/or non-parenchymal liver MCT1 may be responsible for physiologic effects (lower body weight gain and less hepatic steatosis) in MCT1 global heterozygote mice. They generate multiple tools to test this hypothesis, which they combine with mouse diets that induce fatty liver, steatohepatitis and fibrosis. Novel findings include that deletion of hepatocyte MCT1 does not change liver lipid content, but increases liver fibrosis. Deletion of hepatic stellate cell (HSC) MCT1 does not substantially affect any liver parameter, but concomitant HSC MCT1 deletion does reverse fibrosis seen with hepatocyte MCT1 knockout or knockdown. In both models, plasma lactate levels do not change, suggesting that liver MCT1 does not substantially affect systemic lactate. In general, the data match the conclusions of the manuscript, and the studies are well-conducted and well-described. Further work would be necessary to dissect mechanism of fibrosis with hepatocyte MCT1, and whether this is due to changes in local lactate (as speculated by the authors) or another MCT1 substrate. This would be important to understand this novel potential cross-talk between hepatocytes and HSCs.

      A parallel and perhaps more important advance is the generation of new methodology to target HSC in mice, using modified siRNA and by transduction of AAV9-Lrat-Cre. Both methods would reduce the need to cross floxed mice with the Lrat-Cre allele, saving time and resources. These tools were validated to an extent by the authors, but not sufficiently to ensure that there is no cross-reactivity with other liver cell types. For example, AAV9-Lrat-Cre-transduced MCT1 floxed mice show compelling HSC but not hepatocyte Mct1 knockdown, but other liver cell types should be assessed to ensure specificity. This is particularly important as overall liver Mct1 decreased by ~30% in AAV9-Lrat-Cre-transduced mice, which may exceed HSC content of these mice, especially when considering a 60-70% knockdown efficiency. This same issue also affects Chol-MCT1-siRNA, which the authors demonstrate to affect hepatocytes and HSC, but likely affects other cell types not tested. As this is a new and potentially valuable tool, it would be important to assess Mct1 expression across more non-parenchymal cells (i.e. endothelial, cholangiocytes, immune cells) to determine penetration and efficacy.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      In this study, the authors seek to answer two main questions: 1) Whether interfering with lactate availability in hepatocytes through depletion of hepatocyte specific MCT-1 depletion would reduce steatosis, and 2) Whether MCT-1 in stellate cells promote fibrogenesis. While the first question is based on the observation that haploinsufficiency of MCT-1 makes mice resistant to steatosis, the rationale behind how MCT-1 could impact fibrogenesis in stellate cells is not clear. A more detailed discussion regarding how lactate availability would regulate two different processes in two different cell types would be helpful. The authors employ several mouse models and in vitro systems to show that MCT1 inhibition in hepatic stellate cells reduces the expression of COL-1. The significance of the findings is moderately impacted due to the following considerations:

      a) Fibrosis in human NAFLD is a significant problem as a predictor of liver related mortality and is associated with type 1 and type 3 collagen. However, the reduction in COL1 in stellate cells did not amount to a reduction in liver fibrosis even in cell specific KO (in Fig 7E, there is no indication of whether Sirius red staining was different between HSC KO and control mice- the authors mention a downward trend in the text). The authors postulate that type 1 COL may not be the more predominant form of fibrosis in the model. This does not seem likely, since the same ob/ob mouse model was used to determine that fibrosis was enhanced with hepatocyte specific MCT-1 KO and decreased with Chol MCT-1KO. Measurements of different types of collagens in their model and the effect of MCT-1 on different types could be more informative. In particular, although collagens are the structural building blocks for hepatic fibrosis, fibrosis can also be controlled by matrix remodeling factors such as Timp1, Serpine 1, PAI-1 and Lox.

      b) The authors use multiple animal models including cell specific KO to conclude that stellate cell MCT-1 inhibition decreases COL-1. However, the mechanisms behind this reduced expression of COL-1 are not discussed or explored, making it descriptive.

      c) Different types of diets are used in this study which could impact lactate availability. Choline deficiency diets are reported to cause weight loss, and importantly have none of the metabolic features of human NASH. Therefore, their utility is doubtful, especially for this study which proposes to investigate if metabolic dysregulation and substrate availability could be a tool for therapy.

      d) Hepatocyte specific MCT-1 KO mice seem to have increased COL-1 production, despite no noticeable difference in hepatocyte steatosis. The reasons for this are not discussed. Fibrosis in NASH is thought to be from stellate cell activation secondary to signals from hepatocellular damage. There is no evidence that there was a difference in either of these parameters in the mouse models used.

      e) The authors report that serum lactate levels did not rise after MCT-1 silencing, but the reasons behind this are unclear. There is insufficient data about lactate production and utilization in this model, which would be useful to interpret data regarding steatosis and fibrosis development. For example, does the MCT-1 KO prevent hepatocyte and stellate cell net import or export of lactate? What is the downstream metabolic consequence in terms of pyruvate, acetylCoA and the NAD/NADH levels. Does the KO have downstream effects on mitochondrial TCA cycling?

      f) MCT-1 protein expression is measured only in the in vitro assay. Similar quantitation through western blot is not shown in the animal models.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      A major finding of this work is that loss of monocarboxylate transporter 1 (MCT1), specifically in stellate cells, can decrease fibrosis in the liver. However, the underlying mechanism whereby MCT1 influences stellate cells is not addressed. It is unclear if upstream/downstream metabolic flux within different cell types leads to fibrotic outcomes. Ultimately, the paper opens more questions than it answers: why does decreasing MCT1 expression in hepatocytes exacerbate disease, while silencing MCT1 in fibroblasts seems to alleviate collagen deposition? Mechanistic studies in isolated hepatocytes and stellate cells could enhance the work further to show the disparate pathways that mediate these opposing effects. The work highlights the complexity of cellular behavior and metabolism within a disease environment but does little to mechanistically explain it.

      The observations presented are compelling and rigorous, but their impact is limited by the nearly complete lack of mechanistic insight presented in the manuscript. As also mentioned elsewhere, it is important to know whether lactate import or export (or the transport of another molecule-like ketone bodies, for example) is the decisive role of MCT1 for this phenotype. Beyond that, it would be interesting, albeit more difficult, to determine how that metabolic change leads to these fibrotic effects.

      Kuppfer cells are initially analyzed and targeted. These cells may play a major role in fibrotic response. It will be interesting to determine the effects of lactate metabolism in other cells within the microenvironment, like Kuppfer cells, to gain a complete understanding of how metabolism is altered during fibrotic change.

      The timing of MCT1 depletion raises concern, as this is a largely prophylactic experiment, and it remains unclear if altering MCT1 would aid in the regression of established fibrosis. Given the proposal for translation to clinical practice, this will be an important question to answer.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      The cerebral cortex, or surface of the brain, is where humans do most of their conscious thinking. In humans, the grooves (sulci) and bumps (convolutions) have a particular pattern in a region of the frontal lobe called Broca's area, which is important for language. Specialists study features imprinted on the internal surfaces of braincases in early hominins by casting their interiors, which produces so-called endocasts. A major question about hominin brain evolution concerns when, where, and in which fossils a humanlike Broca's area first emerged, the answer to which may have implications for the emergence of language. The researchers used advanced imaging technology to study the endocast of a hominin (KNM-ER 3732) that lived about 1.9 million years ago (Ma) in Kenya to test a recently published hypothesis that Broca's remained primitive (apelike) prior to around 1.5 Ma. The results are consistent with the hypothesis and raise new questions about whether endocasts can be used to identify the genus and/or species of fossils.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The authors present new data of endocranial surface details from the early Homo specimen KNM-ER 3732 and discuss the evolution of brain surface features that might be related to the evolution of language in the hominin lineage.

      Comments and issues raised by the reviewers have been addressed adequately. I am sure that this contribution will revive discussion about these issues.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      The authors provide a detailed analysis of the sulcal and sutural imprints preserved on the natural endocast and associated cranial vault fragments of the KNM-ER3732 early Homo specimen. The analyses indicate a primitive ape-like organization of this specimen's frontal cortex. Given the geological age of around 1.9 million years, this is the earliest well-documented evidence of a primitive brain organization in African Homo.

      The various points raised by the reviewers and the responses provided by the authors illustrate that paleoneurology is a research field where little consensus has been reached over the past century. This is due not only to the fragmentary preservation of most fossil endocasts, but also to the limitations of scientific inference in general, and paleoneurological inference in particular. Like any scientific hypothesis, a paleoneurological hypothesis cannot be proven, but at best be falsified, leaving a wide field of possible alternative hypotheses. Furthermore, endocranial morphology does not equate cerebral morphology. A classical example: the endocranial Broca cap is not identical to the cortical Broca area. And last but not least, taxonomy cannot resolve questions of phylogeny.

    1. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      In this work, the authors investigated the pectoralis work loop and the function of the supracoracoideus muscle in the down stroke during slow flight in doves. The aim of this study was to determine how aerodynamic force is generated, using simultaneous high-speed measurements of the wings' kinematics, aerodynamics, and activation and strain of pectoralis muscles during slow flight. The measurements show a reduction in the angle of attack during mid-downstroke, which induces a peak power factor and facilitates the tensioning of the supracoracoideus tendon with pectoralis power, which then can be released in the up-stroke. By combining the data with a muscle mechanics model, the timely tuning of elastic storage in the supracoracoideus tendon was examined and showed an improvement of the pectoralis work loop shape factor. Finally, other bird species were integrated into the model for a comparative investigation.

      The major strength of the methods is the simultaneous application of four high-speed techniques - to quantify kinematics, aerodynamics and muscle activation and strain - as well as the implementation of the time-resolved data into a muscle mechanics model. With a thorough analysis which supports the conclusions convincingly, the authors achieved their goal of reaching an improved understanding of the interplay of the pectoralis and supracoracoideus muscles during slow flight and the resulting energetic benefits.

    2. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      The authors sought to resolve the coordinated functions of the two muscles that primarily power flight in birds (supracoracoideus and pectoralis), with particular focus on the pectoralis. Technology has limited the ability to resolve some details of pectoralis function, so the authors developed a model that can make accurate predictions about this muscle's function during flight. The authors first measured aerodynamic forces, wing shape changes, and pectoralis muscle activity in flying doves. They used cutting-edge techniques for the aerodynamic and wing shape measurements and they used well-established methods to measure activity and length of the pectoralis muscle. The authors then developed two mathematical models to estimate the instantaneous force vector produced by the pectoralis throughout the wing stroke. Finally, the authors applied their mathematical models to other-sized birds in order to compare muscle physiology across species.

      The strength of the methods is that they smoothly incorporate techniques from many complementary fields to generate a comprehensive model of pectoralis muscle function during flight. The high-speed structured-light technique for quantifying surface area during flight is novel and cutting-edge, as is the aerodynamic force platform used. These methods push the boundaries of what has historically been used to quantify their respective aspects of bird flight and their use here is exciting. The methods used for measuring muscle activation and length are standard in the field. Together, these provide both a strong conceptual foundation for the model and highlight its novelty. This model allows for estimations of muscle function that are not feasible to measure in live birds during flight at present. The weakness of this approach is that it relies heavily on a series of assumptions. While the research presented in this paper makes use of powerful methods from multiple fields, those methods each have assumptions inherent to them that simplify the biological system of study. This reduction in the complexity of phenomena allows the specific measurements to be made. In joining the techniques of multiple fields to study the greater complexity of the phenomenon of interest, the assumptions are all incorporated also. Furthermore, assumptions are inherent to mathematical modeling of biological phenomena. That being said, the authors acknowledge and justify their assumptions at each step and their model seems to be quite good at predicting muscle function.

      Indeed, the authors achieve their aims. They effectively integrate methods from multiple disciplines to explore the coordination and function of the pectoralis and supracoracoideus muscles during flight. The conclusions that the authors derive from their model address the intended research aim.

      The authors demonstrate the value of such interdisciplinary research, especially in studying complex behaviors that are difficult or infeasible to measure in living animals. Additionally, this work provides predictions for muscle function that can be tested empirically. These methods are certainly valuable for understanding flight but also have implications for biologists studying movement and muscle function more generally.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This work describes a structural analysis of the tripartite HipBST toxin-antitoxin (TA) system, which is related to the canonical two-component HipBA system composed of the HipA serine-threonine kinase toxin and the HipB antitoxin. The crystal structure of the kinase-inactive HipBST complex of the Enteropathogenic E. coli O127:H6 was solved and revealed that HipBST forms a hetero-hexameric complex composed of a dimer of HipBST heterotrimers that interact via the HipB subunit. The HipS antitoxin shows a structural resemblance to HipA N-terminal region and the HipT toxin represents to the core kinase domain of HipA, indicating that in HipBST the hipA toxin gene was likely split in two genes, namely hipS and hipT.

      The structure also reveals a conserved and essential Trp residue within the HipS antitoxin, which likely prevents the conserved "Gly-rich loop" of HipT from adopting an inward conformation needed for ATP binding. This work also shows that the regulating Gly-rich loop of the HipT toxin contains conserved phosphoserine residues essential for HipT toxicity that are key players within the HipT active site interacting network and which likely control antitoxin binding and/or activity.

      Strengths:

      The manuscript is well written and the experimental work well executed. It shows that major features of the classical two-component HipAB TA system have somehow been rerouted in the case of the tripartite HipBST. This includes the N-terminal domain of the HipA toxin, which now functions as bona fide antitoxin, and the partly relegated HipB antitoxin, which could only function as a transcription regulator. In addition, this work shows a new mode of inhibition of a kinase toxin and highlights the impact of the phosphorylation state of key toxin residues in controlling the activity of the antitoxin.

      Weaknesses:

      A major weakness of this work is the lack of data concerning the role of HipB, which likely does not act as an antitoxin. Does it act as a transcriptional regulator of the hipBST operon and to what extent both HipS and HipT contribute to such regulation? These are still open questions.

      In addition, there is no in-depth structural comparison between the structure of the HipBST solved in the work and the two recent structures of HipBST from Legionella. This is also a major weakness of this work.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The work by Bærentsen et al., entitled "Structural basis for regulation of a tripartite toxin-antitoxin system by dual phosphorylation" deals with the structural aspects of the control of the hipBST TA operon, the role of auto-phosphorylation in the activation and neutralisation of the enzyme and the direct effects of HipS and HipB in neutralisation. This is a follow-up to the Vang Nielsen et al., and Gerdes et al., papers from the same authors on this very unique TA module, that brings forth a thorough and well written dissection of an unusually complex regulatory system.

      This is a much improved manuscript, the paper is more focused and the message is now clear.

    1. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      The authors discovered that the RdnE effector possesses DNase activity, and in competition, P. mirabilis having RdnE outcompetes the null strain. Additionally, they presented evidence that the RdnI immunity protein binds to RdnE, suppressing its toxicity. Interestingly, the authors demonstrated that the RdnI homolog from a different phylum (i.e., Actinomycetota) provides cross-species protection against RdnE injected from P. mirabilis, despite the limited identity between the immunity sequences. Finally, using metagenomic data from human-associated microbiomes, the authors provided bioinformatic evidence that the rdnE/rdnI gene pair is widespread and present in individual microbiomes. Overall, the discovery of broad protection by non-cognate immunity is intriguing, although not necessarily surprising in retrospect, considering the prolonged period during which Earth was a microbial battlefield/paradise.

      Strengths:

      The authors presented a strong rationale in the manuscript and characterized the molecular mechanism of the RdnE effector both in vitro and in the heterologous expression model. The utilization of the bacterial two-hybrid system, along with the competition assays, to study the protective action of RdnI immunity is informative. Furthermore, the authors conducted bioinformatic analyses throughout the manuscript, examining the primary sequence, predicted structural, and metagenomic levels, which significantly underscore the significance and importance of the EI pair.

      Weaknesses:

      1. The interaction between RdnI and RdnE appears to be complex and requires further investigation. The manuscript's data does not conclusively explain how RdnI provides a "promiscuous" immunity function, particularly concerning the RdnI mutant/chimera derivatives. The lack of protection observed in these cases might be attributed to other factors, such as a decrease in protein expression levels or misfolding of the proteins. Additionally, the transient nature of the binding interaction could be insufficient to offer effective defenses.

      2. The results from the mixed population competition lack quantitative analysis. The swarm competition assays only yield binary outcomes (Yes or No), limiting the ability to obtain more detailed insights from the data.

      3. The discovery of cross-species protection is solely evident in the heterologous expression-competition model. It remains uncertain whether this is an isolated occurrence or a common characteristic of RdnI immunity proteins across various scenarios. Further investigations are necessary to determine the generality of this behavior.

      Comments from Reviewing Editor:

      • In addition to the references provided by Reviewer #2, the first manuscript to show non-cognate binding of immunity proteins was Russell et al 2012 (PMID: 22607806).

      • IdrD was shown to form a subfamily of effectors in this manuscript by Hespanhol et al 2022 PMID: 36226828 that analyzed several T6SS effectors belonging to PDDExK, and it should be cited.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      The manuscript by Knecht et al entitled "Non-cognate immunity proteins provide broader defenses against interbacterial effectors in microbial communities" aims at characterizing a new type VI secretion system (T6SS) effector immunity pair using genetic and biochemical studies primarily focused on Proteus mirabilis and metagenomic analysis of human-derived data focused on Rothia and Prevotella sequences. The authors provide evidence that RdnE and RdnI of Proteus constitute an E-I pair and that the effector likely degrades nucleic acids. Further, they provide evidence that expression of non-cognate immunity derived from diverse species can provide protection against RdnE intoxication. Overall, this general line of investigation is underdeveloped in the T6SS field and conceptually appropriate for a broad audience journal. The paper is well-written and, aside from a few cases, well-cited. As detailed below however, there are several aspects of this paper where the evidence provided is somewhat insufficient to support the claims. Further, there are now at least two examples in the literature of non-cognate immunity providing protection against intoxication, one of which is not cited here (Bosch et al PMID 37345922 - the other being Ting et al 2018). In general therefore I think that the motivating concept here in this paper of overturning the predominant model of interbacterial effector-immunity cognate interactions is oversold and should be dialed back.

      Strengths:

      One of the major strengths of this paper is the combination of diverse techniques including competition assays, biochemistry, and metagenomics surveys. The metagenomic analysis in particular has great potential for understanding T6SS biology in natural communities. Finally, it is clear that much new biology remains to be discovered in the realm of T6SS effectors and immunity.

      Weaknesses:

      The authors have not formally shown that RdnE is delivered by the T6SS. Is it the case that there are not available genetics tools for gene deletion for the BB2000 strain? If there are genetic tools available, standard assays to demonstrate T6SS-dependency would be to interrogate function via inactivation of the T6SS (e.g. by deleting tssC).

      For swarm cross-phyla competition assays (Figure 4), at what level compared to cognate immunity are the non-cognate immunity proteins being expressed? This is unclear from the methods and Figure 4 legend and should be elaborated upon. Presumably these non-cognate immunity proteins are being overexpressed. Expression level and effector-to-immunity protein stoichiometry likely matters for interpretation of function, both in vitro as well as in relevant settings in nature. It is important to assess if native expression levels of non-cognate cross-phyla immunity (e.g. Rothia and Prevotella) protect similarly as the endogenously produced cognate immunity. This experiment could be performed in several ways, for example by deleting the RdnE-I pair and complementing back the Rothia or Prevotella RdnI at the same chromosomal locus, then performing the swarm assay. Alternatively, if there are inducible expression systems available for Proteus, examination of protection under varying levels of immunity induction could be an alternate way to address this question. Western blot analysis comparing cognate to non-cognate immunity protein levels expressed in Proteus could also be important. If the authors were interested in deriving physical binding constants between E and various cognate and non-cognate I (e.g. through isothermal titration calorimetry) that would be a strong set of data to support the claims made. The co-IP data presented in supplemental Figure 6 are nice but are from E. coli cells overexpressing each protein and do not fully address the question of in vivo (in Proteus) native expression.

      Lines 321-324, the authors infer differences between E and I in terms of read recruitment (greater abundance of I) to indicate the presence of orphan immunity genes in metagenomic samples (Figure 5A-D). It seems equally or perhaps more likely that there is substantial sequence divergence in E compared to the reference sequence. In fact, metagenomes analyzed were required only to have "half of the bases on reference E-I sequence receiving coverage". Variation in coverage again could reflect divergent sequence dipping below 90% identity cutoff. I recommend performing metagenomic assemblies on these samples to assess and curate the E-I sequences present in each sample and then recalculating coverage based on the exact inferred sequences from each sample.

      A description of gene-level read recruitment in the methods section relating to metagenomic analysis is lacking and should be provided.

    3. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this manuscript, Knecht, Sirias et al describe toxin-immunity pair from Proteus mirabilis. Their observations suggest that the immunity protein could protect against non-cognate effectors from the same family. They analyze these proteins by dissecting them into domains and constructing chimeras which leads them to the conclusion that the immunity can be promiscuous and that the binding of immunity is insufficient for protective activity.

      Strengths:

      The manuscript is well written and the data are very well presented and could be potentially interesting. The phylogenetic analysis is well done, and provides some general insights.

      Weaknesses:

      1) Conclusions are mostly supported by harsh deletions and double hybrid assays. The later assays might show binding, but this method is not resolutive enough to report the binding strength. Proteins could still bind, but the binding might be weaker, transient, and out-competed by the target binding.

      2) While the authors have modeled the structure of toxin and immunity, the toxin-immunity complex model is missing. Such a model allows alternative, more realistic interpretation of the presented data. Firstly, the immunity protein is predicted to bind contributing to the surface all over the sequence, except the last two alpha helices (very high confidence model, iPTM>0.8). The N terminus described by the authors contributes one of the toxin-binding surfaces, but this is not the sole binding site. Most importantly, other parts of the immunity protein are predicted to interact closer to the active site (D-E-K residues). Thus, based on the AlphaFold model, the predicted mechanism of immunization remains physically blocking the active site. However, removing the N terminal part, which contributes large interaction surface will directly impact the binding strength. Hence, the toxin-immunity co-folding model suggests that proper binding of immunity, contributed by different parts of the protein, is required to stabilize the toxin-immunity complex and to achieve complete neutralization. Alternative mechanisms of neutralization might not be necessary in this case and are difficult to imagine for a DNAse.

      3) Dissection of a toxin into two domains is also not justified from a structural point of view, it is probably based on initial sequence analyses. The N terminus (actually previously reported as Pone domain in ref 21) is actually not a separate domain, but an integral part of the protein that is encased from both sides by the C terminal part. These parts might indeed evolve faster since they are located further from the active site and the central core of the protein. I am happy to see that the chimeric toxins are active, but regarding the conservation and neutralization, I am not surprised, that the central core of the protein fold is highly conserved. However, "deletion 2" is quite irrelevant - it deletes the central core of the protein, which is simply too drastic to draw any conclusions from such a construct - it will not fold into anything similar to an original protein, if it will fold properly at all.

      4) Regarding the "promiscuity" there is always a limit to how similar proteins are, hence when cross-neutralization is claimed authors should always provide sequence similarities. This similarity could also be further compared in terms of the predicted interaction surface between toxin and immunity.

      Overall, it looks more like a regular toxin-immunity couple, where some cross-reactions with homologues will, of course, be possible, depending on how far the sequences have deviated. Nevertheless, taking all of the above into account, these results do not challenge toxin-immunity specificity dogma.

    1. Joint Public Review

      Introduction - Well written and placed within the current trends of unprecedented biodiversity loss, with emphasis in freshwater ecosystems. The authors identify three important points as to why biodiversity action plans have failed. Namely, community changes occur over large spatio-temporal scales and monitoring programs capture a fraction of these long-term dynamics (e.g. few decades) which although good at capturing trends in biodiversity change, they often fail at identifying the drivers of these changes. Additionally, most of these rely on manual sorting of samples, overlooking cryptic diversity, or state-of-the-art techniques such as sedimentary DNA (sedaDNA) which allow studying decade-long dynamics, usually focus on specific taxonomic groups unable to represent community-level changes. Secondly, the authors identify that biodiversity is threatened by multiple factors and are rarely studied in tandem. Finally, the authors stress the need for high-throughput approaches to study biodiversity changes since historically, most conservation efforts rely on highly specialized skills for biodiversity monitoring, and even well studied species have relatively short time series data. The authors identify a model freshwater lake (Lake Ring, Denmark) - suitable due to its well documented history over the last 100 years - to present a comprehensive framework using metabarcoding, chemical analysis and climatic records for identifying past and current impacts on this ecosystem arising from multiple abiotic environmental stressors.

      Results - They are brief and should expand some more. Particularly, there are no results regarding metabarcoding data (number of reads, filtering etc.). These details are important to know the quality of the data which represents the bulk of the analyses. Even the supplementary material gives little information on the metabarcoding results (e.g. number of ASVs - whether every ASV of each family were pooled etc.). The drivers of biodiversity change section could be restructured and include main text tables showing the families positively or negatively correlated with the different variables (akin to table S2 but simplified).

      Discussion<br /> The discussion is well written identifying first, some of the possible caveats of this study, particularly regarding classification of metabarcoding data, its biases and the possible DNA degradation of ancient sediment DNA. The authors discuss how their results fit to general trends showing how agricultural runoff and temperature drive changes in freshwater functional biodiversity primarily due to their synergistic effects on bioavailability, adsorption, etc. The authors highlight the advantage of using a system-level approach rather than focusing on taxa-specific studies due to their indicator status. Similarly, the authors justify the importance of studying community composition as far back as possible since it reveals unexpected patterns of ecosystem resilience. Lake Ring, despite its partially recovered status, has not returned to its semi-pristine levels of biodiversity and community assemblage. Additionally, including enzyme activity allows to assess functional diversity of the studied environment although reference databases of these pathways are still lacking. Finally, the authors discuss the implications of their findings under a conservation and land management framework suggesting that by combining these different approaches, drivers of biodiversity stressors can be derived with high accuracy allowing for better informed mitigation and conservation efforts.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In the best genetically and biochemically understood model of eukaryotic DNA replication, the budding yeast, Saccharomyces cerevisiae, the genomic locations at which DNA replication initiates are determined by a specific sequence motif. These motifs, or ARS elements, are bound by the origin recognition complex (ORC). ORC is required for loading of the initially inactive MCM helicase during origin licensing in G1. In human cells, ORC does not have a specific sequence binding domain and origin specification is not specified by a defined motif. There have thus been great efforts over many years to try to understand the determinants of DNA replication initiation in human cells using a variety of approaches, which have gradually become more refined over time.

      In this manuscript Tian et al. combine data from multiple previous studies using a range of techniques for identifying sites of replication initiation to identify conserved features of replication origins and to examine the relationship between origins and sites of ORC binding in the human genome. The authors identify a) conserved features of replication origins e.g. association with GC-rich sequences, open chromatin, promoters and CTCF binding sites. These associations have already been described in multiple earlier studies. They also examine the relationship of their determined origins and ORC binding sites and conclude that there is no relationship between sites of ORC binding and DNA replication initiation. While the conclusions concerning genomic features of origins are not novel, if true, a clear lack of colocalization of ORC and origins would be a striking finding. However, the majority of the datasets used do not report replication origins, but rather broad zones in which replication origins fire. Rather than refining the localisation of origins, the approach of combining diverse methods that monitor different objects related to DNA replication leads to a base dataset that is highly flawed and cannot support the conclusions that are drawn, as explained in more detail below.

      Methods to determine sites at which DNA replication is initiated can be divided into two groups based on the genomic resolution at which they operate. Techniques such as bubble-seq, ok-seq can localise zones of replication initiation in the range ~50kb. Such zones may contain many replication origins. Conversely, techniques such as SNS-seq and ini-seq can localise replication origins down to less than 1kb. Indeed, the application of these different approaches has led to a degree of controversy in the field about whether human replication does indeed initiate at discrete sites (origins), or whether it initiates randomly in large zones with no recurrent sites being used. However, more recent work has shown that elements of both models are correct i.e. there are recurrent and efficient sites of replication initiation in the human genome, but these tend to be clustered and correspond to the demonstrated initiation zones (Guilbaud et al., 2022).

      These different scales and methodologies are important when considering the approach of Tian et al. The premise that combining all available data from five techniques will increase accuracy and confidence in identifying the most important origins is flawed for two principal reasons. First, as noted above, of the different techniques combined in this manuscript, only SNS-seq can actually identify origins rather than initiation zones. It is the former that matters when comparing sites of ORC binding with replication origin sites if a conclusion is to be drawn that the two do not co-localise.

      Second, the authors give equal weight to all datasets. Certainly, in the case of SNS-seq, this is not appropriate. The technique has evolved over the years and some earlier versions have significantly different technical designs that may impact the reliability and/or resolution of the results e.g. in Foulk et al. (Foulk et al., 2015), lambda exonuclease was added to single stranded DNA from a total genomic preparation rather than purified nascent strands), which may lead to significantly different digestion patterns (ie underdigestion). Curiously, the authors do not make the best use of the largest SNS-seq dataset (Akerman et al., 2020) by ignoring these authors separation of core and stochastic origins. By blending all data together any separation of signal and noise is lost. Further, I am surprised that the authors have chosen not to use data and analysis from a recent study that provides subsets of the most highly used and efficient origins in the human genome, at high resolution (Guilbaud et al., 2022).

      References:

      Akerman I, Kasaai B, Bazarova A, Sang PB, Peiffer I, Artufel M, Derelle R, Smith G, Rodriguez-Martinez M, Romano M, Kinet S, Tino P, Theillet C, Taylor N, Ballester B, Méchali M (2020) A predictable conserved DNA base composition signature defines human core DNA replication origins. Nat Commun, 11: 4826

      Foulk MS, Urban JM, Casella C, Gerbi SA (2015) Characterizing and controlling intrinsic biases of lambda exonuclease in nascent strand sequencing reveals phasing between nucleosomes and G-quadruplex motifs around a subset of human replication origins. Genome Res, 25: 725-735

      Guilbaud G, Murat P, Wilkes HS, Lerner LK, Sale JE, Krude T (2022) Determination of human DNA replication origin position and efficiency reveals principles of initiation zone organisation. Nucleic Acids Res, 50: 7436-7450

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Tian et al. perform a meta-analysis of 113 genome-wide origin profile datasets in humans to assess the reproducibility of experimental techniques and shared genomics features of origins. Techniques to map DNA replication sites have quickly evolved over the last decade, yet little is known about how these methods fare against each other (pros and cons), nor how consistent their maps are. The authors show that high-confidence origins recapitulate several known features of origins (e.g., correspondence with open chromatin, overlap with transcriptional promoters, CTCF binding sites). However, surprisingly, they find little overlap between ORC/MCM binding sites and origin locations.

      Overall, this meta-analysis provides the field with a good assessment of the current state of experimental techniques and their reproducibility, but I am worried about: (a) whether we've learned any new biology from this analysis; (b) how binding sites and origin locations can be so mismatched, in light of numerous studies that suggest otherwise; and (c) some methodological details described below.

      Major comments:

      -- Line 26: "0.27% were reproducibly detected by four techniques" -- what does this mean? Does the fragment need to be detected by ALL FOUR techniques to be deemed reproducible? And what if the technique detected the fragment is only 1 of N experiments conducted; does that count as "detected"? Later in Methods, the authors (line 512) say, "shared origins ... occur in sufficient number of samples" but what does *sufficient* mean? Then on line 522, they use a threshold of "20" samples, which seems arbitrary to me. How are these parameters set, and how robust are the conclusions to these settings? An alternative to setting these (arbitrary) thresholds and discretizing the data is to analyze the data continuously; i.e., associate with each fragment a continuous confidence score.

      -- Line 20: "50,000 origins" vs "7.5M 300bp chromosomal fragments" -- how do these two numbers relate? How many 300bp fragments would be expected given that there are ~50,000 origins? (i.e., how many fragments are there per origin, on average)? This is an important number to report because it gives some sense of how many of these fragments are likely nonsense/noise. The authors might consider eliminating those fragments significantly above the expected number, since their inclusion may muddle biological interpretation.

      -- Line 143: I'm not terribly convinced by the PCA clustering analysis, since the variance explained by the first 2 PCs is only ~25%. A more robust analysis of whether origins cluster by cell type, year etc is to simply compute the distribution of pairwise correlations of origin profiles within the same group (cell type, year) vs the correlation distribution between groups. Relatedly, the authors should explain what an "origin profile" is (line 141). Is the matrix (to which PCA is applied) of size 7.5M x 113, with a "1" in the (i,j) position if the ith fragment was detected in the jth dataset?

      -- It's not clear to me what new biology (genomic features) has been learned from this meta-analysis. All the major genomic features analyzed have already been found to be associated with origin sites. For example, the correspondence with TSS has been reported before:

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6320713/<br /> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6547456/

      So what new biology has been discovered from this meta-analysis?

      -- Line 250: The most surprising finding is that there is little overlap between ORC/MCM binding sites and origin locations. The authors speculate that the overlap between ORC1 and ORC2 could be low because they come from different cell types. Equally concerning is the lack of overlap with MCM. If true, these are potentially major discoveries that butts heads with numerous other studies that have suggested otherwise. More needs to be done to convince the reader that such a mis-match is true. Some ideas are below:

      Idea 1) One explanation given is that the ORC1 and ORC2 data come from different cell types. But there must be a dataset where both are mapped in the same cell type. Can the authors check the overlap here? In Fig S4A, I would expect the circles to not only strongly overlap but to also be of roughly the same size, since both ORC's are required in the complex. So something seems off here.

      Idea 2) Another explanation given is that origins fire stochastically. One way to quantify the role of stochasticity is to quantify the overlap of origin locations performed by the same lab, in the same year, in the same experiment, in the same cell type -- i.e., across replicates -- and then compute the overlap of mapped origins. This would quantify how much mis-match is truly due to stochasticity, and how much may be due to other factors.

      Idea 3) A third explanation is that MCMs are loaded further from origin sites in human than in yeast. Is there any evidence of this? How far away does the evidence suggest, and what if this distance is used to define proximity?

      Idea 4) How many individual datasets (i.e., those collected and published together) also demonstrate the feature that ORC/MCM binding locations do not correlate with origins? If there are few, then indeed, the integrative analysis performed here is consistent. But if there are many, then why would individual datasets reveal one thing, but integrative analysis reveal something else?

      Idea 5) What if you were much more restrictive when defining "high-confidence" origins / binding sites. Does the overlap between origins and binding sites go up with increasing restriction?

      Overall, I have the sense that these experimental techniques may be producing a lot of junk. If true, this would be useful for the field to know! But if not, and there are indeed "unexplored mechanisms of origin specification" that would be exciting. But I'm not convinced yet.

      -- It would be nice in the Discussion for the authors to comment about the trade-offs of different techniques; what are their pros and cons, which should be used when, which should be avoided altogether, and why? This would be a valuable prescription for the field.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary: The authors present a thought-provoking and comprehensive re-analysis of previously published human cell genomics data that seeks to understand the relationship between the sites where the Origin Recognition Complex (ORC) binds chromatin, where the replicative helicase (Mcm2-7) is situated on chromatin, and where DNA replication actually beings (origins). The view that these should coincide is influenced by studies in yeast where ORC binds site-specifically to dedicated nucleosome-free origins where Mcm2-7 can be loaded and remains stably positioned for subsequent replication initiation. However, this is most certainly not the case in metazoans where it has already been reported that chromatin bindings sites of ORC, Mcm2-7, and origins do not necessarily overlap, likely because ORC loads the helicase in transcriptionally active regions of the genome and, since Mcm2-7 retains linear mobility (i.e., it can slide), it is displaced from its original position by other chromatin-contextualized processes (for example, see Gros et al., 2015 Mol Cell, Powell et al., 2015 EMBO J, Miotto et al., 2016 PNAS, and Prioleau et al., 2016 G&D amongst others). This study reaches a very similar conclusion: in short, they find a high degree of discordance between ORC, Mcm2-7, and origin positions in human cells.

      Strengths: The strength of this work is its comprehensive and unbiased analysis of all relevant genomics datasets. To my knowledge, this is the first attempt to integrate these observations and the analyses employed were suited for the questions under consideration.

      Weaknesses: The major weakness of this paper is that this comprehensive view failed to move the field forward from what was already known. Further, a substantial body of relevant prior genomics literature on the subject was neither cited nor discussed. This omission is important given that this group reaches very similar conclusions as studies published a number of years ago. Further, their study seems to present a unique opportunity to evaluate and shape our confidence in the different genomics techniques compared in this study. This, however, was also not discussed.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this paper, Schalcher et al. examined how barn owls' landing force affects their hunting success during two hunting strategies: strike hunting and sit-and-wait hunting. They tracked tens of barn owls that raised their nestlings in nest boxes and utilized high-resolution GPS and acceleration loggers to monitor their movements. In addition, camcorders were placed near their nest boxes and used to record the prey they brought to the nest, thus measuring their foraging success.

      This study generated a unique dataset and provided new insights into the foraging behavior of barn owls. The researchers discovered that the landing force during hunting strikes was significantly higher compared to the sit-and-wait strategy. Additionally, they found a positive relationship between landing force and foraging success during hunting strikes, whereas, during the sit-and-wait strategy, there was a negative relationship between the two. This suggests that barn owls avoid detection by generating a lower landing force and producing less noise. Furthermore, the researchers observed that environmental characteristics affect barn owls' landing force during sit-and-wait hunting. They found a greater landing force when landing on buildings, a lower landing force when landing on trees, and the lowest landing force when landing on poles. The landing force also decreased as the time to the next hunting attempt decreased. These findings collectively suggest that barn owls reduce their landing force as an acoustic camouflage to avoid detection by their prey.

      The main strength of this work is the researchers' comprehensive approach, examining different aspects of foraging behavior, including high-resolution movement, foraging success, and the influence of the environment on this behavior, supported by impressive data collection. The weakness of this study is that the results only present a partial biological story contained within the data. The focus is on acoustic camouflage without addressing other aspects of barn owls' foraging strategy, leaving the reader with many unanswered questions. These include individual differences, direct measurements of owls' fitness, a detailed analysis of the foraging strategy of males and females, and the collective effort per nest box. However, it is possible that these data will be published in a separate paper.

      The results presented support the authors' conclusion that lower landing force during sit-and-wait hunting increases hunting success, likely due to a decreased probability of detection by their prey, resulting in acoustic camouflage. The authors also argue that hunting success is crucial for survival, and thus, acoustic camouflage has a direct link to fitness. While this statement is reasonable, it should be presented as a hypothesis, as no direct evidence has been provided here. However, since information about nestling survival is typically monitored when studying behavior during the breeding period, the authors' knowledge of the effect of acoustic camouflage on owls' fitness can probably be provided. Furthermore, it will be interesting to further examine the foraging strategies used by different individuals during foraging, the joint foraging success of both males and females within each nest box, and the link between landing force and foraging success if the data are available. However, even without this additional analysis on survival, this paper provides an unprecedented dataset and the first measurement of landing force during hunting in the wild. It is likely to inspire many other researchers currently studying animal foraging behavior to explore how animals' movements affect foraging success.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The authors provide new evidence for motion-induced sound camouflage and can link the hunting approach to hunting success (detailing the adaptation and inferring a fitness consequence).

      Strengths:<br /> Strong evidence by combining high-resolution accelerometer data with a ground-truthed data set on prey provisioning at nest boxes. A good set of co-variates to control for some of the noise in the data provides some additional insights into owl hunting attempts.

      Weaknesses:<br /> There is a disconnect between the hypotheses tested and the results presented, and insufficient detail is provided on the statistical approach. R2 values of the presented models are very small compared to the significance of the effect presented. Without more detail, it is impossible to assess the strength of the evidence. The authors seem to overcome persisting challenges associated with the validation and calibration of accelerometer data by ground-truthing on-board measures with direct observations in captivity, but here the methods are not described any further and sample sizes (2 owls - how many different loggers were deployed?) might be too small to achieve robust behavioural classifications.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      After revision, the manuscript is clearly improved and I thank the authors for their efforts. Yet, two contentious issues remain.

      Firstly, I am skeptical whether the circularity issue has been resolved.

      The authors equate uncertainty in the outcome of interactions with social complexity and they then diagnose for these three species that higher social complexity correlates with higher communicative complexity. Yet, there is still an inherent link between the occurrence of signals and other behaviours that allow the authors to determine the outcome of an interaction.

      I do agree with the authors' conclusion that the three species vary in terms of the predictability of their signaling behaviour and the outcome of interactions. I just think the observed link between the two is not very surprising or informative, but rather inevitable.

      Secondly, I am still not convinced that visual communication is more prevalent in situations with higher predation pressure. There are two reasons: relying on visual communication requires that the recipients, typically one's group members, are actually looking at the signaler when they produce the signal. The vocal-auditory channel in contrast, has a much higher potential to reach all recipients, even when visual communication in impaired. In addition, the idea that predators use acoustic signals to single out individuals and preferentially attack them, is poorly corroborated by data, especially for terrestrial predators. In contrast, there is ample evidence that prey species direct their calls at terrestrial predators (mobbing calls against snakes, antelope vigorously snorting against lions and leopards). See also this paper by Griesser (PMID 23941356).

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This is a well-written manuscript about a strong comparative study of diversity of facial movements in three macaque species to test arguments about social complexity influencing communicative complexity.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      There are a number of outstanding questions concerning how cohesin turnover on DNA is controlled by various accessory factors and how such turnover is controlled by post-translational modification. In this paper, Nasmyth et al. perform a series of AlphaFold structure predictions that aim to address several of these outstanding questions. Their structure predictions suggest that the release factor WAPL forms a ternary complex with PDS5 and SA/SCC3. This ternary complex appears to be able to bind the N-terminal end of SCC1, suggesting how formation of such a complex could stabilize an open state of the cohesin ring. Additional calculations suggest how the Eco/ESCO acetyltransferases and Sororin engage the SMC3 head domain presumably to protect against WAPL-mediated release.

      This work thus demonstrates the power of AF prediction methods and how they can lead to a number of interesting and testable hypotheses that can transform our understanding of cohesin regulation. These findings require orthogonal experimental validation, but authors argue convincingly that such validation should not be a pre-requisite to publication.

      In their revised version, the authors did not systematically include model confidence scores, and it therefore remains difficult for the reader to evaluate the reliability of the models obtained. The authors correctly point out that such metrics are available on Figshare. It is therefore possible to obtain such information. The caveat is that it remains to the user to identify and extract the relevant information. While they claim that they have labeled N- and C-termini in their figures, no such labeling can be seen in the revised version. Addition of such labels, at least for some of the figures, would help the user to navigate the models.

      Also, PAE plots still contain chain labels (A,B,C etc.) and it is not always clear which protein is being referred to. Which segment does the reader need to focus on? The authors claim that PAE plots are now amended but no such changes can be seen. At least for the key models proposed, the authors should have facilitated access and help readers interpret the different plots/models. While it is possible to load the different PDB files from Figshare, the current version still requires that the reader then works out what segments are used and how they correspond to chain labels shown.

      It is exciting to see AF-multimer predictions being applied to cohesin. As some of the reported interactions are not universally conserved and some involve relatively small interfaces the possibility arises that these interfaces show poor or borderline confidence scores. As some of these interfaces map to mutants that have previously been obtained by hypothesis-free genetic screens and mutational analyses, they appear nevertheless valid. Thus, an important point to make is that even interfaces that show modest confidence scores may turn out to be valid while others may be not.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The ATPase protein machine cohesin shapes the genome by loop extrusion and holds sister chromatids together by topological entrapment. When executing these functions, cohesin is tightly regulated by multiple cofactors, such as Scc2/Nipbl, Pds5, Wapl, and Eco1/Esco1/2, and it undergoes dynamic conformational changes with ATP binding and hydrolysis. The mechanisms by which cohesin extrudes DNA loops and medicates siter-chromatid cohesion are still not understood. A major reason for the lack of understanding of cohesin dynamics and regulation is the failure to capture the structures of intact cohesin in different nucleotide-bound states and in complex with various regulators. So far only the ATP state cohesin bound to NIPBL and DNA have been experimentally determined.

      In this manuscript, Nasmyth et al. made use of the powerful protein structure prediction tool, AlphaFold2 (AF), to predict the models of tens of cohesin subcomplexes from different species. The results provide important insight into how the Smc3-Scc1 DNA exiting gate is opened, how Pds5 and Wapl maintain the opened gate, how Pds5 and Scc3/SA recruit different cofactors, how Eco1 and Sororin antagonize Wapl, and how Scc2/Nipbl interacts with Scc3/SA. The models are for the most part consistent with published mutations in these proteins that affect cohesin's functions in vitro and in vivo and raise testable hypotheses of cohesin dynamics and regulation. This study also serves as an example of how to use AF to build models of protein complexes that involve the docking of flexible regions to globular domains.

      Major points

      (1)The revised manuscript is still too long and would be difficult for readers to read. While the authors have made some efforts to streamline their presentations and remove excessive speculations and models of minor importance, the changes are not enough.<br /> (2) AF has been accurate in predicting both the fold and sidechain conformations of globular domains. It is less accurate in predicting structural regions with conformational flexibility. Comparisons of predicted and determined structures of large protein complexes have shown considerable differences, particularly with respect to regions lacking tertiary fold. The authors should be more cautious in interpreting some of their models, particularly when the predicted models are inconsistent with determined structures and published biochemical data. For example, human WAPL-C in isolation does not interact with the SA-SCC1 complex while the N-terminal region of WAPL does.<br /> (3) The predicted SA/Scc3-Pds5-Scc1-WaplC quaternary complex is fascinating. Can the authors provide some experimental evidence to support the formation of this quaternary complex or at least the formation of the SA/Scc3-Pds5-WaplC ternary complex? In vitro pulldown or gel filtration can be used to test their predictions. The authors have decided not the test their models experimentally.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Cell death plays a critical role on regulating organogenesis. During tooth morphogenesis, apoptosis of embryonic dental tissue plays critical roles on regulating tooth germ development. The current study focused on ferroptosis, another way of cell death which has rarely been investigated in tooth development, and showed it may also play an important role on regulating the tooth dimension. The topic is novel and interesting, but the experimental design has many flaws which significantly compromised the study.

      1. The entire study was based on ex vivo tooth germ explant culture. Mandibular tooth germs of E15.5 (bell stage) were isolated for ex vivo culture. Most tooth germ explant culture experiments were actually using tooth germ of much earlier stages (E11.5-E13.5) for organ culture. After E16.5, both the large size and initially formed enamel/dentin could prevent nutrition from penetrating inside. Also, using tooth germ of earlier stage will help identify impact of ferroptosis upon early tooth development.<br /> 2. Due to limited penetration, the ex vivo culture in the study lasted for no more than 5 days. I would recommend the authors to perform kidney capsule transplantation as an alternative approach, which can support tooth germ development much longer even into root formation.<br /> 3. The major justification of using tooth germ ex vivo culture as the model in the study was to "conduct high-throughput analysis". However, the study could hardly be qualified as a high-throughput analysis. I would recommend the authors perform RNA sequencing for comparing tooth germs before/after erastin treatment. Such experiments won't take too much time or resource.<br /> 4. Although the study mostly used molars as the model, the in vivo iron concentration was only demonstrated on incisors, but not molars (Figure 1).<br /> 5. Phenotype analysis in Figure 2 is too superficial. Only dimensional information was provided. Cusps number, cusps distribution pattern and rooth/furcation formation were not evaluated. Differentiation of amelobast/odontoblast was not evaluated. The proliferation rate in the dental epithelium/mesenchyme was not analyzed.<br /> 6. Low magnification images should be included in Figure 3 to display the entire tooth germs.<br /> 7. In Figure 4, does ferroptotic inhibitor eliminate the iron accumulation in the tooth germ? How about the expression level of several target genes shown in Figure 3?<br /> 8. The manuscript has many typos and grammar mistakes. All "submandibular" should be simply "mandibular". "eastin" should be "erastin" (line 92). "partly" should be "partially" (line 611).

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The present study by Ye et al. characterizes some of the major effects of ferroptotic stress on tooth morphogenesis.

      The strengths of this study are its innovative nature and beautiful histology. Mechanistic data are convincing Overall, the study is well done.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      This is an interesting work reporting ferroptosis that is involved in the tooth morphogenesis. The authors showed that Gpx4, the core anti-lipid peroxidation enzyme in ferroptosis, is upregulated in tooth development using ex vivo culture system.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Comments on the original submission:

      Trypanosoma brucei undergoes antigenic variation to evade the mammalian host's immune response. To achieve this, T. brucei regularly expresses different VSGs as its major surface antigen. VSG expression sites are exclusively subtelomeric, and VSG transcription by RNA polymerase I is strictly monoallelic. It has been shown that T. brucei RAP1, a telomeric protein, and the phosphoinositol pathway are essential for VSG monoallelic expression. In previous studies, Cestari et al. (ref. 24) has shown that PIP5pase interacts with RAP1 and that RAP1 binds PI(3,4,5)P3. RNAseq and ChIPseq analyses have been performed previously in PIP5pase conditional knockout cells, too (ref. 24). In the current study, Touray et al. did similar analyses except that catalytic dead PIP5pase mutant was used and the DNA and PI(3,4,5)P3 binding activities of RAP1 fragments were examined. Specifically, the authors examined the transcriptome profile and did RAP1 ChIPseq in PIP5pase catalytic dead mutant. The authors also expressed several C-terminal His6-tagged RAP1 recombinant proteins (full-length, aa1-300, aa301-560, and aa 561-855). These fragments' DNA binding activities were examined by EMSA analysis and their phosphoinositides binding activities were examined by affinity pulldown of biotin-conjugated phosphoinositides. As a result, the authors confirmed that VSG silencing (both BES-linked and MES-linked VSGs) depends on PIP5pase catalytic activity, but the overall knowledge improvement is incremental. The most convincing data come from the phosphoinositide binding assay as it clearly shows that N-terminus of RAP1 binds PI(3,4,5)P3 but not PI(4,5)P2, although this is only assayed in vitro, while the in vivo binding of full-length RAP1 to PI(3,4,5)P3 has been previously published by Cestari et al (ref. 24) already. Considering that many phosphoinositides exert their regulatory role by modulate the subcellular localization of their bound proteins, it is reasonable to hypothesize that binding to PI(3,4,5)P3 can remove RAP1 from the chromatin. However, no convincing data have been shown to support the author's hypothesis that this regulation is through an "allosteric switch".

      Comments on revised manuscript:

      In this revised manuscript, Touray et al. have responded to reviewers' comments with some revisions satisfactorily. However, the authors still haven't addressed some key scientific rigor issues, which are listed below:

      1. It is critical to clearly state whether the observations are made for the endogenous WT protein or the tagged protein. It is good that the authors currently clearly indicate the results observed in vivo are for the RAP1-HA protein. However, this is not as clearly stated for in vitro EMSA analyses. In addition, in discussion, the authors simply assumed that the c-terminally tagged RAP1 behaves the same as WT RAP1 and all conclusions were made about WT RAP1.

      There are two choices here. The authors can validate that RAP1-HA still retains RAP1's essential function as a sole allele in T. brucei cells (as was recommended previously). Indeed, HA-tagged RAP1 has been studied before, but it is the N-terminally HA-tagged RAP1 that has been shown to retain its essential functions. Adding the HA tag to the C-terminus of RAP1 may well cause certain defects to RAP1. For example, N-terminally HA-tagged TERT does not complement the telomere shortening phenotype in TERT null T. brucei cells, while C-terminally GFP-tagged TERT does, indicating that HA-TERT is not fully functional while TERT-GFP likely has its essential functions (Dreesen, RU thesis). Although RAP1-HA behaves similar to WT RAP1 in many ways, it is still not fully validated that this protein retains essential functions of RAP1. By the way, it has been published that cells lacking one allele of RAP1 behave as WT cells for cell growth and VSG silencing (Yang et al. 2009, Cell; Afrin et al. 2020, mSphere). In addition, although RAP1 may interact with TRF weakly, the interaction is direct, as shown in yeast 2-hybrid analysis in (Yang et al. 2009, Cell).

      Alternatively, if the authors do not wish to validate the functionality of RAP1-HA, they need to add one paragraph at the beginning of the discussion to clearly state that RAP1-HA may not behave exactly as WT RAP1. This is important for readers to better interpret the results. In addition, the authors need to tune down the current conclusions dramatically, as all described observations are made on RAP1-HA but not the WT RAP1.

      For a similar reason, the current EMSA results truly reflect how C-terminally His6-tagged RAP1 and RAP1 fragments behave. If the authors choose not to remove the His6 tag, it is essential that they use "RAP1-His6" to refer to these recombinant proteins. It is also essential for the authors to clearly state in the discussion that the tagged RAP1 fragments bind DNA, but the current data do not reveal whether WT RAP1 binds DNA. In addition, the authors incorrectly stated that "disruption of the MybL domain sequence did not eliminate RAP1-telomere binding in vivo" (lines 165-166). In ref 29, deletion of Myb domain did not abolish RAP1-telomere association. However, point mutations in MybL domain that abolish RAP1's DNA binding activities clearly disrupted RAP1's association with the telomere chromatin. Therefore, the current observation is not completely consistent with that published in ref 29.

      2. There is no evidence, in vitro or in vivo, that binding PI(3,4,5)P3 to RAP1 causes conformational change in RAP1. The BRCT domain of RAP1 is known for its ability to homodimerize (Afrin et al. 2020, mSphere). It is therefore possible that binding of PI(3,4,5)P3 to RAP1 simply disrupts its homodimerization function. The authors clearly have extrapolated their conclusions based on available data. It is therefore important to revise the discussion and make appropriate statements.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      In this manuscript, Touray et al investigate the mechanisms by which PIP5Pase and RAP1 control VSG expression in T. brucei and demonstrate an important role for this enzyme in a signalling pathway that likely plays a role in antigenic variation in T. brucei. While these data do not definitively show a role for this pathway in antigenic variation, the data are critical for establishing this pathway as a potential way the parasite could control antigenic variation and thus represent a fundamental discovery.

      The methods used in the study are generally well-controlled. The authors provide evidence that RAP1 binds to PI(3,4,5)P3 through its N-terminus and that this binding regulates RAP1 binding to VSG expression sites, which in turn regulates VSG silencing. Overall their results support the conclusions made in the manuscript. Readers should take into consideration that the epitope tags on RAP1 could alter its function, however.

      There are a few small caveats that are worth noting. First, the analysis of VSG derepression and switching in Figure 1 relies on a genome which does not contain minichromosomal (MC) VSG sequences. This means that MC VSGs could theoretically be mis-assigned as coming from another genomic location in the absence of an MC reference. As the origin of the VSGs in these clones isn't a major point in the paper, I do not think this is a major concern, but I would not over-interpret the particular details of switching outcomes in these experiments.

      Another aspect of this work that is perhaps important, but not discussed much by the authors, is the fact that signalling is extremely poorly understood in T. brucei. In Figure 1B, the RNA-seq data show many genes upregulated after expression of the Mut PIP5Pase (not just VSGs). The authors rightly avoid claiming that this pathway is exclusive to VSGs, but I wonder if these data could provide insight into the other biological processes that might be controlled by this signaling pathway in T. brucei.

      Overall, this is an excellent study which represents an important step forward in understanding how antigenic variation is controlled in T. brucei. The possibility that this process could be controlled via a signalling pathway has been speculated for a long time, and this study provides the first mechanistic evidence for that possibility.

    1. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary: In this study, Peterson et al. longitudinally record and document the vocal repertoires of three Mongolian gerbil families. Using unsupervised learning techniques, they map the variability across these groups, finding that while overall statistics of, e.g., vocal emission rates and bout lengths are similar, families differed markedly in their distributions of syllable types and the transitions between these types within bouts. In addition, the large and rich data are likely to be valuable to others in the field.

      Strengths:<br /> - Extensive data collection across multiple days in multiple family groups.<br /> - Thoughtful application of modern analysis techniques for analyzing vocal repertoires.<br /> - Careful examination of the statistical structure of vocal behavior, with indications that these gerbils, like naked mole rats, may differ in repertoire across families.

      Weaknesses:<br /> - The work is largely descriptive, documenting behavior rather than testing a specific hypothesis.<br /> - The number of families (N=3) is somewhat limited.

    2. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> This research offers an in-depth exploration and quantification of social vocalization within three families of Mongolian gerbils. In an enlarged, semi-natural environment, the study continuously monitored two parent gerbils and their four pups from P14 to P34. Through dimensionality reduction and clustering, a diverse range of gerbil call types was identified. Interestingly, distinct sets of vocalizations were used by different families in their daily interactions, with unique transition structures exhibited across these families. The primary results of this study are compelling, although some elements could benefit from clarification

      Strengths:<br /> Three elements of this study warrant emphasis. Firstly, it bridges the gap between laboratory and natural environments. This approach offers the opportunity to examine natural social behavior within a controlled setting (such as specified family composition, diet, and life stages), maintaining the social relevance of the behavior. Secondly, it seeks to understand short-timescale behaviors, like vocalizations, within the broader context of daily and life-stage timescales. Lastly, the use of unsupervised learning precludes the injection of human bias, such as pre-defined call categories, allowing the discovery of the diversity of vocal outputs.

      Weaknesses:<br /> 1. While the notable differences in vocal clusters across families are convincing, the drivers of these differences remain unclear. Are they attributable to "dialect," call usage, or specific vocalizing individuals (e.g., adults vs. pups)? Further investigation, via a literature review or additional observation, into acoustic differences between adult and pup calls is recommended. Moreover, a consistent post-weaning decrease in the bottom-left cluster (Fig. S3) invites interpretation: could this reflect drops in pup vocalization?

      2. Developmental progression, particularly during pre-weaning periods when pup vocal output remains unstable, might be another factor influencing cross-family vocal differences. Representing data from this non-stationary process as an overall density map could result in the loss of time-dependent information. For instance, were dominating call types consistently present throughout the recording period, or were they prominent only at specific times? Displaying the evolution of the density map would enhance understanding of this aspect.

      3. Family-specific vocalizations were credited to the transition structure, a finding that may seem obvious if the 1-gram (i.e., the proportion of call types) already differs. This result lacks depth unless it can be demonstrated that, firstly, the transition matrix provides a robust description of the data, and secondly, different families arrange the same set of syllables into unique sequences.

    3. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Peterson et al., perform a series of behavioral experiments to study the repertoire and variance of Mongolian gerbil vocalizations across social groups (families). A key strength of the study is the use of a behavioral paradigm which allows for long term audio recordings under naturalistic conditions. This experimental set-up results in the identification of additional vocalization types. In combination with state of the art methods for vocalization analysis, the authors demonstrate that the distribution of sound types and the transitions between these sound types across three gerbil families is different. This is a highly compelling finding which suggests that individual families may develop distinct vocal repertoires. One potential limitation of the study lies in the cluster analysis used for identifying distinct vocalization types. The authors use a Gaussian Mixed Model (GMM) trained on variational auto Encoder derived latent representation of vocalizations to classify recorded sounds into clusters. Through the analysis the authors identify 70 distinct clusters and demonstrate a differential usage of these sound clusters across families. While the authors acknowledge the inherent challenges in cluster analysis and provide additional analyses (i.e. maximum mean discrepancy, MMD), additional analysis would increase the strength of the conclusions. In particular, analysis with different cluster sizes would be valuable. An additional limitation of the study is that due to the methodology that is used, the authors can not provide any information about the bioacoustic features that contribute to differences in sound types across families which limits interpretations about how the animals may perceive and react to these sounds in an ethologically relevant manner.

      The conclusions of this paper are well supported by data, but certain parts of the data analysis should be expanded and more fully explained.

      • Can the authors comment on the potential biological significance of the 70 sound clusters? Does each cluster represent a single sound type? How many vocal clusters can be attributed to a single individual? Similarly, can the authors comment on the intra-individual and inter-individual variability of the sound types within and across families?<br /> • As a main conclusion of the paper rests on the different distribution of sound clusters across families, it is important to validate the robustness of these differences across different cluster parameters. Specifically, the authors state that "we selected 70 clusters as the most parsimonious fit". Could the authors provide more details about how this was fit? Specifically, could the authors expand upon what is meant by "prior domain knowledge about the number of vocal types...". If the authors chose a range of cluster values (i.e. 10, 30, 50, 90) does the significance of the results still hold?<br /> • While VAEs are powerful tools for analyzing complex datasets in this case they are restricted to analysis of spectrogram images. Have the authors identified any acoustic differences (i.e. in pitch, frequency, and other sound components) across families?

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This paper describes the role of WRNIP1 AAA+ ATPase, particularly its UBZ domain for ubiquitin-binding, but not ATPase, to prevent the formation of the R-loop when DNA replication is mildly perturbated. By combining cytological analysis for DNA damage, R-loop, and chromosome aberration with the proximity ligation assay for colocalization of various proteins involved in DNA replication and transcription, the authors provide solid evidence to support the claim. The authors also revealed a distinct role of WRNIP1 in the prevention of R-loop-induced DNA damage from FANCD2, which is inconsistent with the known relationship between WRNIP1 and FANCD2 in the repair of crosslinks.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This paper aims at establishing the role of WRN-interacting protein 1 (WRNIP1) and its UBZ domain (an N-terminal ubiquitin-binding zinc finger domain) on genome instability caused by mild inhibition of DNA synthesis by aphidicolin. The authors used human MRC5 fibroblasts investigated with standard methods in the field. The results clearly showed that WRNIP1 silencing and UBZ-mutation (D37A) increased DNA damage, chromosome aberrations, and transcription-replication conflicts caused by aphidicolin.

      The conclusions of the paper are overall well supported by results, however, aspects of some data analyses would need to be clarified and/or extended.

      1 The methods (immunofluorescence microscopy and dot-blots) to determine R-loop levels can lack sensitivity and specificity. In particular, since the S9.6 antibody can bind to other structures besides heteroduplex, dot-blot analyses only grossly assess R-loop levels in cellular samples of purified nucleic acids, which are constituted by many different types of DNA/RNA structures.

      2 Experimental plan has analyzed the impact of WRNIP1 lack or mutations at steady-state conditions. Thus, the possible role of WRNIP1 at an early step of the mechanism would require some sort of kinetics analysis of the molecular process, therefore not at steady-state conditions. The findings of a co-localization of R-loops and WRNIP1 have been obtained with the S9.6 antibody, which recognizes DNA-RNA heteroduplexes. Since WRNIP1 is known to be recruited at stalled forks and DNA cleavage sites, it is not surprising that WRNIP1 is very close to heteroduplexes, abundant structures at replication forks and cleavage sites. Similar interpretations may also be valid for Rad51/S9.6 co-localization findings.

      3 Determination of DNA damage, chromosome aberration, and co-localization data are reported as means of measurements with appropriate statistics. However, the fold-change values relative to corresponding untreated samples are not reported. In some instances, it seems that WRNIP1 silencing or mutations actually reduce or do not affect aphidicolin effects. That leaves open the interpretation of specific results.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> In the manuscript by Valenzisi et al., the authors report on the role of WRNIP1 to prevent R-loop and TRC-associated DNA damage. The authors claim WRNIP1 localizes to TRCs in response to replication stress and prevents R-loop accumulation, TRC formation, replication fork stalling, and subsequent DNA damage. While the findings are of potential significance to the field, the strength of evidence in support of the conclusions is lacking.

      Weaknesses:<br /> 1) The authors fail to utilize the proper controls throughout the manuscript in regard to the shWRNIP1, WT, and mutant cell lines. It is unclear why the authors failed to use the shWRNIP1WT line in the comet assay, DNA fiber assay, and the FANCD2 assays. This is a key control for i) the use of only a single shRNA (most studies will use at least 2 different shRNAs) and ii) the use of the mutant WRNIP1 lines. In several figures, the authors only show the effect of the UBZ mutant, but don't include the ATPase mutant or WT for comparison. Including these is essential.

      2) The authors use the S9.6 antibody to conclude the loss of WRNIP1 causes more R-loops; however, it has been shown that this antibody detects dsRNA in addition to RNA-DNA hybrids. Accordingly, it cannot be ruled out that the increased S9.6 signal is due to increased dsRNA.

      3) Multiple pieces of data do not support the conclusions. For example, Figure 1D shows shWRNIP1 to reduce damage in Aph+DRB cells compared to MRC5SV cells with Aph+DRB. This result suggests that WRNIP1 actually increases DNA damage in stressed cells with transcription blocked. Another result is seen in Figure 4a, where the number of PLA spots (presumably TRCs) increases in the shWRNIP1WT cells with Aph+RNH1 compared to Aph alone. If R-loops are required for TRC accumulation, then the RNH1 should decrease the PLA foci. This result instead suggests that WRNIP leads to increased TRCs in stressed cells with R-loops cleared by RNH1.

      4) The data are mostly phenomenological and fail to yield mechanistic insight. For example, the authors state that "it remains unclear whether WRNIP1 is directly involved in the mechanisms of R-loop removal/resolution". Unfortunately, the data presented in this manuscript do not provide new insights into this unresolved question.

      5) The authors only show merged images making it impossible to visualize differences in PLA foci.

    1. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      In this study, Zhu and authors investigate the expression and function of the clustered Protocadherins (cPcdhs) in synaptic connectivity in the mouse cortex. The cPcdhs encode a large family of cadherin-related transmembrane molecules hypothesized to regulate synaptic specificity through combinatorial expression and homophilic binding between neurons expressing matching cPcdh isoforms. But the evidence for combinatorial expression has been limited to a few cell types, and causal functions between cPcdh diversity and wiring specificity have been difficult to test experimentally. This study addresses two important but technically challenging questions in the mouse cortex: 1) Do single neurons in the cortex express different cPcdh isoform combinations? and 2) Does Pcdh isoform diversity or particular combinations among pyramidal neurons influence their connectivity patterns? Focusing on the Pcdh-gamma subcluster of 22 isoforms, the group performed 5'end-directed single-cell RNA sequencing from dissociated postnatal (P11) cortex. To address the functional role of Pcdhg diversity in cortical connectivity, they asked whether the Pcdhgs and isoform matching influence the likelihood of synaptic pairing between 2 nearby pyramidal neurons. They performed simultaneous whole-cell recordings of 6 pyramidal neurons in cortical slices, and measured paired connections by evoked monosynaptic responses. In these experiments, they measured synaptic connectivity between pyramidal neurons lacking the Pcdhgs, or overexpressing dissimilar or matching sets of Pcdhg isoforms introduced by electroporation of plasmids encoding Pcdhg cDNAs.

      Overall, the study applies elegant methods that demonstrate that single cortical neurons express different combinations of Pcdh-gamma isoforms, including the upper layer Pyramidal cells that are assayed in paired recordings. The electrophysiology data demonstrate that nearby Pyramidal neurons lacking the entire Pcdhg cluster are more likely to be synaptically connected compared to the control neurons, and that overexpression of matching isoforms between pairs decreases the likelihood to be synaptically connected. These are important and compelling findings that advance the idea that the Pcdhgs are important for cortical synaptic connectivity, and that the repertoire of isoforms expressed by neurons influence their connectivity patterns potentially through a self/non-self discrimination mechanism. However, the findings are limited to probability in connectivity and do they do not support the authors' conclusions that Pcdhg isoforms regulate synaptic specificity, 'by preventing synapse formation with specific cells' or to 'unwanted partners'. Characterizations of the cellular basis of these defects are needed to determine whether they are secondary to other roles in cell positioning, axon/dendrite branching and synaptic pruning, and overall synaptic formation. Claims that Pcdh-alpha and Pcdhg C-type isoforms are not functionally required are premature, due to limitations of the experiments. Moreover, claims that 'similarity level of γ-PCDH isoforms between neurons regulate the synaptic formation' are not supported due to weak statistical analyses presented in Fig4. The overstatements should be corrected. There was also missed opportunity to clearly discuss these results in the context of other published work, including recent publications focused on the cortex.

      Strengths:

      - The 5' end sequencing with a Pcdhg-amplified library is a technical feat and addresses the pitfall of conventional scRNA-Seq methods due to the identical 3'sequences shared by all Pcdhg isoform and the low abundance of the variable exons. New figures with annotated cell types confirm that several pyramidal and inhibitory cortical subpopulations were captured.

      -Statistical assessment of co-occurrence of isoform expression within clusters is also a strength.

      - By establishing the combinatorial expression of Pcdhgs by maturing pyramidal cells, the study further substantiates the 'single neuron combinatorial code for cPcdhs' model. Although combinatorial expression is not universal (ie. serotonergic neurons), there was limited evidence. The findings that individual pyramidal neurons express ~1-3 variable Pcdhg transcripts plus the C-type transcripts aligns with single RT-PCR studies of single Purkinje cells (Esumi et al 2005; Toyoda et al 2014). They differ from the findings by Lv et al 2022, where C-type expression was lower among pyramidal neurons. OSNs also do not substantially express C-type isoforms (Mountoufaris et al 2017; Kiefer et al 2023). Differences, and the advantages of the 5'end -directed sequencing (vs. SmartSeq) could be raised in the discussion.

      - Simultaneous whole-cell recordings and pairwise comparisons of pyramidal neurons is a technically outstanding approach. They assess the effects of Pcdhg OE isoform on the probability of paired connections.

      - The connectivity assay between nearby pairs proved to be sensitive to quantify differences in probability in Pcdhg-cKO and overexpression mutants. The comparisons of connectivity across vertical vs lateral arrangement are also strengths. Overexpressing identical Pcdhg isoform (whether 1 or 6) reduces the probability of connectivity, but there are caveats to the interpretations (see below).

      Weaknesses:

      -The experiments support a role for the Pcdhgs in influencing the probability of synaptic connectivity between nearby pairs but are not sufficient evidence for synapse specificity. The cPcdhs play multiple roles in neurite arborization, synaptic density, and cell positioning. Kostadinov 2015 also showed that starburst cells lacking the Pcdhgs maintained increased % connectivity at maturity, suggesting a lack of refinement in the absence of Pcdhgs. The known roles raise questions on how these manipulations might have primary effects in these processes and then subsequently impact the probability of connectivity. Investigations of morphological aspects of pyramidal development would strengthen the study and potentially refine the findings. The authors should more clearly relate their findings to the body of cPcdh studies in the discussion.

      - Pcdhg cKO-dependent effects on connectivity occur between closely spaced soma (50-100um - Figure 2E), highlighting the importance of spatial arrangement to connectivity (also noted by Tarusawa 2016). Was distance considered for the overexpression (OE) assays, and did the authors note changes in cell distribution which might diminish the connectivity? Recent work by Lv et al 2022 reported that manipulating Pcdhgs influences the dispersion of clonally-related pyramidal neurons, which also impacts the likelihood of connections. Overexpression of Pcdhgc3 increased cell dispersion and decreased the rate of connectivity between pairs. Though these papers are mentioned, they should be discussed in more detail and related to this work.

      - Though the authors added suggested citations and improved the contextualization of the study, several statements do not accurately represent the cited literature. It is at the expense of crystalizing the novelty and importance of this present work. For instance, Garrett et al 2012 PMID: 22542181 was the first to describe roles for Pcdhgs in cortical pyramidal cells and dendrite arborization, and that pyramidal cell migration and survival are intact. Line 52 cited Wang et al 2002, but this was limited to gross inspection. Garrett et al is the correct citation for: 'The absence of γ-PCDH does not cause general abnormality in the development of the cerebral cortex, such as cell differentiation, migration, and survival (Wang et al., 2002).' Second, single cell cPcdh diversity is introduced very generally, as though all neuron types are expected to show combinatorial variable expression with ubiquitous C-Type expression. But those initial studies were limited to Purkinje cells (Esumi 2005 and Toyoda 2014). Profiling of serotonergic neurons and OSN reveals different patterns (citations needed for Chen 2017 PMID: 28450636; Mountofaris et al PMID: 2845063; Canzio 2023 PMID: 37347873), raising the idea that cPcdh diversity and ubiquitous C-type expression is not universal. Thus, the authors missed the opportunity to emphasize the gap regarding cPcdh diversity in the cortex.

      - They have not shown rigorously and statistically that the rate of connectivity changes with% isoform matching. In Figure 4D, comparisons of % isoform matching in OE assays show a single statistical comparison between the control and 100% groups, but not between the 0%, 11% and 33% groups. Is there a significant difference between the other groups? Significant differences are claimed in the results section, but statistical tests are not provided. The regression analysis in 4E suggests a correlation between % isoform similarity and connectivity probability, but this is not sound as it is based on a mere 4 data points from 4D. The authors previously explained that they cannot evaluate the variance in these recordings as they must pool data together. However, there should be some treatment of variability, especially given the low baseline rate of connectivity. Or at the very least, they should acknowledge the limitations that prevent them from assessing this relationship. Claims in lines 230+ are not supported: ' Overall, our findings demonstrate a negative correlation between the probability of forming synaptic connections and the similarity level of γ-PCDH isoforms expressed in neuron pairs (Fig. 4E)".

      -Figure 4 provides connectivity probability, but this result might be affected by overall synapse density. Did connection probability change with directionality (e.g between red to green cells, or green to red cells).

      -Generally, the statistical approaches were not sufficiently described in the methods nor in the figure legends, making it difficult to assess the findings. They do not report on how they calculated FDR for connectivity data, when this is typically used for larger multivariate datasets.

      - The possibility that the OE effects are driven by total Pcdhg levels, rather isoform matching, should be examined. As shown by qRT-PCR in Fig. 3, expression of individual isoforms can vary. It is reasonable that protein levels cannot be measured by IHC, although epitope tags could be considered as C-terminal tagging of cPcdhs preserves the function in mice (see Lefebvre 2008). Quantification of constant Pcdhg RNA levels by qRT-PCR or sc-RT-PCR would directly address the potential caveat that OE levels vary with isoform combinations.

      -A caveat for the relative plasmid expression quantifications in Figure 3-S1 is that IHC was used to amplify the RFP-tagged isoform, and thus does not likely preserve the relationship between quantities and detection.

      -Figure 1 didn't change in response to reviews to improve clarity. New panels relating to the scRNA-Seq analyses were added to supplementary data but many are central and should be included in Figure 1 (ie. S1-Fig6D). In the Results, the authors state that neuronal subpopulations generally show a combinatorial expression of some variable RNA isoforms and near ubiquitous C-type expression. But they only show data for the Layer 2/3 neuron-specific cluster in S1-Fig-6D, and so it is not clear if this pattern applies to other clusters. Fig. S1-5 show a low number of expressed isoforms per cell, but specific descriptions on whether these include C-type isoforms would be helpful. Figure 1F showing isoform profile in all neurons is not particularly meaningful. There is a lot of interest in neuron-type specific differences in cPcdh diversity, and the authors could highlight their data from S1-5 accordingly.

      -The concept of co-occurrence and results should be explained within the results section, to more clearly relate this concept to data and interpretations. Explanations are now found in the methods, but this did not improve the clarity of this otherwise very interesting aspect of the study.

      - The claim that C-type Pcdhgs do not functionally influence connectivity is premature. Tests were limited to PcdhgC4, which has unique properties compared to the other 2 C-type isoforms (Garrett et al 2019 PMID: 31877124; Mancia et al PMID: 36778455). The text should be corrected to limit the conclusion to PcdhgC4, and not generally to C-type. The authors should test PcdhgC3 and PcdhgC5 isoforms.

      -The group generated a novel conditional Pcdh-alpha mouse allele using CRISPR methods, and state that there were no changes in synaptic connectivity in these Pcdh-alpha mutants. But this claim is premature. The Southern blots validate the targeting of the allele. But further validations are required to establish that this floxed allele can be efficiently recombined, disrupting Pcdha protein levels and function. Pcdha alleles have been validated by western blots and by demonstration of the prominent serotonergic axonal phenotype of Pcdha-KO (ie. Chen 2017 PMID: 28450636; Ing-Esteves 2018 PMID: 29439167).

      -The Discussion would be strengthened by a deeper discussion of the findings to other cPcdh roles and studies, and of the limitations of the study. The idea that the Pcdhgs are influencing the rate of connectivity through a repulsion mechanism or synaptic formation (ie through negative interactions with synaptic organizers such as Nlgn - Molumby 2018, Steffen 2022) could be presented in a model, and supported by other literature.

    2. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      The manuscript by Zhu and colleagues aimed to clarify the importance of isoform diversity of PCDHg in establishing cortical synapse specificity. The authors optimized 5' single-cell sequencing to detect cPCDHg isoforms and showed that the pyramidal cells express distinct combinations of PCDHg isoforms. Then, the authors conducted patch-clamp recordings from cortical neurons whose PCDHg diversity was disrupted. In the elegant experiment in Figure 3, the authors demonstrated that the neurons expressing the same sets of cPCDHg isoforms are less likely to form synapses with each other, suggesting that identical cPCDHg isoforms may have a repulsive effect on synapse formation. Importantly, this phenomenon was dependent on the similarity of the isoforms present in neurons but not on the amount of proteins expressed.

      One of the major concerns in an earlier version was whether PCDHg isoforms, which are expressed at a much lower level than C-type isoforms, have true physiological significance. The authors conducted additional experiments to address this point by using PCDHg cKO and provided convincing data supporting their conclusion. The results from PCDHg C4 overexpression, showing no impact on synaptic connectivity, further clarified the importance of isoforms. I have no further concerns, however, I would like to point out that the evidence for the necessity of the PCDHg isoform is still lacking because most experiments were done by overexpression. It would be helpful for the readers if the authors could add this point to the discussion.

    3. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This short manuscript by Zhu et al. describes an investigation into the role of gamma protocadherins in synaptic connectivity in the mouse cerebral cortex. First, the authors conduct a single-cell RNA-seq survey of postnatal day 11 mouse cortical neurons, using an adapted 10X Genomics method to capture the 5' sequences that are necessary to identify individual gamma protocadherin isoforms (all 22 transcripts share the same three 3' "constant" exons, so standard 3'-biased methods can't distinguish them). This method adaptation is an advance for examining individual gamma transcripts, and it is helpful to publish the method, the characterization of which is improved in this revised manuscript. The results largely confirm what was known from other approaches, which is that a few of the 19 A and B subtype gamma protocadherins are expressed in an apparently stochastic and combinatorial fashion in each cortical neuron, while the 3 C subtype genes are expressed ubiquitously. Second, using elegant paired electrophysiological recordings, the authors show that in gamma protocadherin cortical slices, the likelihood of two neurons on layers 2/3 being synaptically connected is increased. That suggests that gamma protocadherins generally inhibit synaptic connectivity in the cortex; again, this has been reported previously using morphological assays, but it is important to see it confirmed here with physiology. Finally, the authors use an impressive sequential in utero electroporation method to provide evidence that the degree of isoform matching between two neurons negatively regulates their reciprocal synaptic connectivity. These are difficult experiments to do, and while some caveats remain, the main result is consistent. Strengths include the impressive methodology and improved demonstration of the previously-reported finding that gamma protocadherins work via homophilic matching to put a brake on synapse formation in the cortex. Weaknesses include the writing, which even in the revision fails to completely put the new results in context with prior work, which together has largely shown similar results; a still-incomplete characterization of a new alpha protocadherin KO mouse (a minor point but it should still be addressed); and a lack of demonstration of protein levels in electroporated brains. Because of the unique organization and expression pattern of the gamma protocadherins, it is unlikely that these results will be directly applicable to the broader understanding of the role of cell adhesion molecules in synapse development. However, the methodology, which is now better described, should be applicable more broadly and the improved demonstration of the role of gamma protocadherin's negative role in cortical synaptogenesis is helpful.

    1. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      Spikol et al performed a technical tour de force by combining numerous novel tools and approaches to investigate for the first time the connectivity and motor functions of nucleus incertus subset of neurons genetically defined by the expression of specific markers in the larval zebrafish brain.

      Strengths:

      By using expression of the specific markers relaxin 3 and gsc2, the authors generated novel knock-in transgenic lines enabling them to investigate the connectivity, recruitment and roles of these neurons in locomotion. Their work should enable numerous subsequent studies in zebrafish & inspire new paths of investigations in other animal models.

      Weaknesses:

      More precision is required for the anatomical data and further analysis is needed to describe the recruitment and role in spontaneous exploration of the rln3- and gsc2- expressing neurons.

    2. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      This study uses a range of methods to characterize heterogeneous neural populations within the nucleus incertus (NI). The authors focus on two major populations, expressing gsc2 and rln3a, and present solid evidence that these cells have different patterns of efferent and afferent connectivity, calcium activity and function in control of behavior. Although the study does not go as far as clarifying the role of NI in any specific neural computation or aspect of behavioral control, the findings will be valuable in support of future endeavors to do so. In particular, the authors have made two beautiful knock-in lines that recapitulate endogenous expression pattern of gsc2 and rln3a which will be a powerful tool to study the roles of the relevant NI cells. Experiments are well done and data are high quality and most claims are well supported. However, there are a few issues, detailed below, where I believe additional analysis could strengthen the paper.

      • The data very clearly show different patterns of neurites for gsc2 and rln3a neurons in the IPN and the authors interpret these are being axonal arbors. However, can they rule out that some arbors might be dendritic in nature? Notably, they cite the recent Portugues lab study that confirmed that, as in other species, tegmental neurons in zebrafish extend spatially segregated axonal and dendritic arbors into IPN, and the authors speculate that these GABAergic cells might in fact be part of NI.

    3. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Spikol et al. investigate the roles of two distinct populations of neurons in the nucleus incertus (NI). The authors established two new transgenic lines that label gsc2- and rln3a-expressing neurons. They show that the gsc2+ and rln3a+ NI neurons show divergent projection patterns and project to different parts of the interpeduncular nucleus (IPN), which receive inputs from habenula (Hb). Furthermore, calcium imaging shows that gsc2 neurons are activated by the optogenetic activation of the dorsal Hb-IPN and respond to aversive electric shock stimuli, while rln3a neurons are highly spontaneously active. The ablation of rln3a neurons, but not gsc2 neurons, alters locomotor activity of zebrafish larvae.

      The strength of the paper is their genetic approach that enabled the authors to characterize many different features of the two genetically targeted populations in the NI. These two neuronal populations are anatomically closely apposed and would have been indistinguishable without their genetic tools. Their analyses provide valuable information on the diverse anatomical, physiological and behavioral functions of the different NI subtypes. On the other hand, these pieces of evidence are only loosely linked with each other to reach a mechanistic understanding of how the NI works in a circuit. For example, the anatomical study revealed the connections from the NI to the IPN, while the optogenetic mapping experiments investigate the other way around, i.e. the connection from the IPN to the NI.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this manuscript, Davidsen and coworkers describe the development of a novel aspartate biosensor jAspSNFR3. This collaborative work supports and complements what was reported in a recent preprint by Hellweg et al., (bioRxiv; doi: 10.1101/2023.05.04.537313). In both studies, the newly engineered aspartate sensor was developed from the same glutamate biosensor previously developed by the authors of this manuscript. This coincidence is not casual but is the result of the need to find tools capable of measuring aspartate levels in vivo. Therefore, it is undoubtedly a relevant and timely work carried out by groups experienced in aspartate metabolism and in the generation of metabolite biosensors.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      In this work the IGluSnFR3 sensor, recently developed by Marvin et al (2023) is mutated position S72, which was previously reported to switch the specificity from Glu to Asp. They made 3 mutations at this position, selected a S72P mutant, then made a second mutation at S27 to generate an Asp-specific version of the sensor. This was then characterized thoroughly and used on some test experiments, where it was shown to detect and allow visualization of aspartate concentration changes over time. It is an incremental advance on the iGluSnFR3 study, where 2 predictable mutations are used to generate a sensor that works on a close analog of Glu, Asp. It is shown to have utility and will be useful in the field of Asp-mediated biological effects.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      In this manuscript, Davidsen and collaborators introduce jAspSnFR3, a new version of aspartate biosensor derived from iGluSnFR3, that allows monitoring in real-time aspartate levels in cultured cells. A selective amino acids substitution was applied in a key region of the template to switch its specificity from glutamate to aspartate. The jAspSnFR3 does not respond to other tested metabolites and performs well, is not toxic for cultured cells, and is not affected by temperature ensuring the possibility of using this tool in tissues physiologically more relevant. The high affinity for aspartate (KD=50 uM) allowed the authors to measure fluctuations of this amino acid in the physiological range. Different strategies were used to bring aspartate to the minimal level. Finally, the authors used jAspSnFR3 to estimate the intracellular aspartate concentration. One of the highlights of the manuscript was a treatment with asparagine during glutamine starvation. Although didn't corroborate the essentiality of asparagine in glutamine depletion, the measurement of aspartate during this supplementation is a glimpse of how useful this sensor can be.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      The authors have developed an open-source high-resolution microscope that is easily accessible to scientists, students, and the general public. The microscope is specifically designed to work with incubators and can image cells in culture over long periods. The authors provide detailed instructions for building the microscope and the necessary software to run it using off-the-shelf components. The system has great potential for studying cell biology and various biological processes.

      The authors' work will make scientific instruments more accessible and remove obstacles to the free diffusion of capabilities and know-how in science. This important contribution will enable more people to conduct scientific research.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Making state-of-the-art (super-resolution) microscopy widely available has been the subject of many publications in recent years as correctly referenced in the manuscript. By advocating the ideas of open-microscopy and trying to replace expensive, scientific-grade components such as lasers, cameras, objectives, and stages with cost-effective alternatives, interested researchers nowadays have a number of different frameworks to choose from. In the iteration of the theme presented here, the authors used the existing modular UC2 framework, which consists of 3D printable building blocks, and combined a cheapish laser, detector and x,y,(z) stage with expensive filters/dichroics and a very expensive high-end objective (>15k Euros). This particular choice raises a first technical question, to which extent a standard NA 1.3 oil immersion objective available for <1k would compare to the chosen NA 1.49 one.

      The choice of using the UC2 framework has the advantage, that the individual building blocks can be 3D printed, although it should be mentioned that the authors used injection-molded blocks that will have a limited availability if not offered commercially by a third party. The strength of the manuscript is the tight integration of the hardware and the software (namely the implementations of imSwitch as a GUI to control data acquisition, OS SMLM algorithms for fast sub-pixel localisation and access to Napari).

      The presented experimental data is convincing, demonstrating (1) extended live cell imaging both using bright-field and fluorescence in the incubator, (2) single-particle tracking of quantum dots, and (3) and STORM measurements in cells stained against tubulin.

      In the following I will raise two aspects that currently limit the clarity and the potential impact of the manuscript.

      First, the manuscript would benefit from further refinement. Elements in Figure 1d/e are not described properly. Figure 2c is not described in the caption. GPI-GFP is not introduced. MMS (moment scaling spectrum) could benefit from a one sentence description of what it actually is. In Figure 6, the size of the STORM and wide-field field of views are vastly different, the distances between the peaks on the tubuili are given in micrometers rather than nanometers. (more in the section on recommendations for the author)

      Second, and this is the main criticism at this point, is that although all the information and data is openly available, it seems very difficult to actually build the setup due to a lack of proper documentation (as of early July 2023).<br /> 1. The bill of materials (https://github.com/openUC2/UC2-STORM-and-Fluorescence#bill-of-material) should provide a link to the commercially available items. Some items are named in German. Maybe split the BoM in commercially available and 3D printable parts (I first missed the option to scroll horizontally).<br /> 2. The links to the XY and Z stage refer to the general overview site of the UC2 project (https://github.com/openUC2/) requiring a deep dive to find the actual information.<br /> 3. Detailed building instructions are unfortunately missing. How to assemble the cubes (pCad files showing exploded views, for example)? Trouble shooting?<br /> 4. Some of the hardware details (e.g. which laser was being used, lenses, etc) should be mentioned in the manuscript (or SI)

      I fully understand that providing such level of detail is very time consuming, but I hope that the authors will be able to address these shortcomings.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This is a very interesting paper which addresses how auditory cortex represents sound while an animal is performing an auditory task. The study involves psychometric and neurophysiological measurement from ferrets engaged in a challenging tone in noise discrimination task, and relates these measurements using neurometric analysis. A novel neural decoding technique (decoding-based dimensionality reduction or dDR, introduced in a previous paper by two of the authors) is used to reduce bias so that stimulus parameters can be read out from neuronal responses.

      The central finding of the study is that, when an animal is engaged in a task, non-primary auditory cortex represents task-relevant sound features in a categorical way. In primary cortex, task engagement also affects representations, but in a different way - the decoding is improved (suggesting that representations have been enhanced), but is not categorical in nature. The authors argue that these results are compatible with a model where early sensory representations form an overcomplete representation of the world, and downstream neurons flexibly read out behaviourally relevant information from these representations.

      I find the concept and execution of the study very interesting and elegant. The paper is also commendably clear and readable. The differences between primary and higher cortex are compelling and I am largely convinced by the authors' claim that they have found evidence that broadly supports a mixed selectivity model of neural disentanglement along the lines of Rigotti et al (2013). I think that the increasing body of evidence for these kinds of representations is a significant development in our understanding of higher sensory representations. I also think that the dDR method is likely to be useful to researchers in a variety of fields who are looking to perform similar types of neural decoding analysis.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This study compares the activity of neural populations in the primary and non-primary auditory cortex of ferrets while the animals actively behaved or passively listened to a sound discrimination task. Using a variety of methods, the authors convincingly show differential effects of task engagement on population neural activity in primary vs non-primary auditory cortex; notably that in the primary auditory cortex, task-engagement (1) improves discriminability for both task-relevant and non-task relevant dimensions, and (2) improves the alignment between covariability and sound discrimination axes; whereas in the non-primary auditory cortex, task-engagement (1) improves discriminability for only task-relevant dimensions, and (2) does not affect the alignment between covariability and sound discrimination axes. They additionally show that task-engagement changes in gain can account for the selectivity noted in the discriminability of non-primary auditory neurons. They also admirably attempt to isolate task-engagement from arousal fluctuations, by using fluctuations in pupil size as a proxy for physiological arousal. This is a well-carried out study with thoughtful analyses which in large part achieves its aims to evaluate how task-engagement changes neural activity across multiple auditory regions. As with all work, there are several caveats or areas for future study/analysis. First, the sounds used here (tones, and narrow-band noise) are relatively simple sounds; previous work suggests that exactly what activity is observed within each region (e.g., sensory only, decision-related, etc) may depend in part upon what stimuli are used. Therefore, while the current study adds importantly to the literature, future work may consider the use of more varied stimuli. Second, the animals here were engaged in a behavioral task; but apart from an initial calculation of behavioral d', the task performance (and its effect on neural activity) is largely unaddressed.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> Tian et al. investigated the effects of emotional signals in biological motion on pupil responses. In this study, subjects were presented with point-light biological motion stimuli with happy, neutral, and sad emotions. Their pupil responses were recorded with an eye tracker. Throughout the study, emotion type (i.e., happy/sad/neutral) and BM stimulus type (intact/inverted/non-BM/local) were systematically manipulated. For intact BM stimuli, happy BM induced a larger pupil diameter than neutral BM, and neutral BM also induced a larger pupil diameter than sad BM. Importantly, the diameter difference between happy and sad BM correlated with the autistic trait of individuals. These effects disappeared for the inverted BM and non-BM stimuli. Interestingly, both happy and sad emotions show superiority in pupil diameter.

      Strengths:<br /> 1. The experimental conditions and results are very easy to understand.<br /> 2. The writing and data presentation are clear.<br /> 3. The methods are sound. I have no problems with the experimental design and results.

      Weaknesses:<br /> 1. My main concern is the interpretation of the intact and local condition results. The processing advantage of happy emotion is not surprising given a number of existing studies. However, the only difference here seems to be the smaller (or larger) pupil diameter for sad compared to neutral in the intact (or local, respectively) condition. The current form only reports this effect but lacks in-depth discussions and explanations as to why this is the case.

      2. I also found no systematic discussion and theoretical contributions regarding the correlation with the autistric trait. If the main point of this paper is to highlight an implicit and objective behavioral marker of the autistric trait, more interpretation and discussion of the links between the results and existing findings in ASD are needed.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> Through a series of four experiments, Yuan, Wang and Jiang examined pupil size responses to emotion signals in point-light motion stimuli. Experiment 1 examined upright happy, sad and neutral point-light biological motion (BM) walkers. The happy BM induced a significantly larger pupil response than the neutral, whereas the sad BM evoked a significantly smaller pupil size than the neutral BM. Experiment 2 examined inverted BM walkers. Experiment 3 examined BM stimuli with acceleration removed. No significant effects of emotion were found in neither Experiment 2 nor Experiment 3. Experiment 4 examined scrambled BM stimuli, in which local motion features were preserved while the global configuration was disrupted. Interestingly, the scrambled happy and sad BM led to significantly greater pupil size than the scrambled neutral BM at a relatively early time, while no significant difference between the scrambled happy and sad BM was found. Thus, the authors argue that these results suggest multi-level processing of emotions in life motion signals.

      Strengths:<br /> The experiments were carefully designed and well-executed, with point-light stimuli that eliminate many potential confounding effects of low-level visual features such as luminance, contrast, and spatial frequency.

      Weaknesses:<br /> Correlation results with limited sample size should be interpreted with extra caution.

      It would be helpful to add discussions as a context to compare the current results with pupil size reactions to emotion signals in picture stimuli.

      Overall, I think this is a well-written paper with solid experimental results that support the claim of the authors, i.e., the human visual system may process emotional information in biological motion at multiple levels. Given the key role of emotion processing in normal social cognition, the results will be of interest not only to basic scientists who study visual perception, but also to clinical researchers who work with patients of social cognitive disorders. In addition, this paper suggests that examining pupil size responses could be a very useful methodological tool to study brain mechanisms underlying emotion processing.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The overarching goal of the authors was to understand whether emotional information conveyed through point-light biological motion can trigger automatic physiological responses, as reflected in pupil size.

      Strengths:<br /> This manuscript has several noticeable strengths: it addresses an intriguing research question that fills that gap in existing literature, presents a clear and accurate presentation of the current literature, and conducts a series of experiments and control experiments with adequate sample size. Yet, it also entails several noticeable limitations - especially in the study design and statistical analyses.

      Weaknesses:<br /> 1. Study design:<br /> 1.1 Dependent variable:<br /> Emotional attention is known to modulate both microsaccades and pupil size. Given the existing pupillometry data that the authors have collected, it would be both possible and valuable to determine whether the rate of microsaccades is also influenced by emotional biological motion.

      1.2 Stimuli:<br /> It appears that the speed of the emotional biological motion stimuli mimics the natural pace of the emotional walker. What is the average velocity of the biological motion stimuli for each condition?

      When the authors used inverted biological motion stimuli, they didn't observe any modulation in pupil size. Could there be a difference in microsaccades when comparing inverted emotional biological motion stimuli?

      2. Statistical analyses<br /> 2.1 Multiple comparisons:<br /> There are many posthoc comparisons throughout the manuscript. The authors should consider correction for multiple comparisons. Take Experiment 1 for example, it is important to note that the happy over neutral BM effect and the sad over neutral BM effect are no longer significant after Bonferroni correction, which is worth noting.

      2.2 The authors present the correlation between happy over sad dilation effect and the autistic traits in Experiment 1, but do not report such correlations in Experiments 2-4. Did the authors collect the Autistic Quotient measure in Experiments 2-4? It would be informative if the authors could demonstrate the reproducibility (or lack thereof) of this happy-sad index in Experiments 2-4.

      2.3 The observed correlation between happy over sad dilation effect and the autistic traits in Experiment 1 seems rather weak. It could be attributed to the poor reliability of the Autistic Quotient measure or the author-constructed happy-sad index. Did the authors examine the test-retest reliability of their tasks or the Autistic Quotient measure?

      2.4 Relatedly, the happy over sad dilation effect is essentially a subtraction index. Without separately presenting the pipul size correlation with happy and sad BM in supplemental figures, it becomes challenging to understand what's primarily driving the observed correlation.

      2.5 For the sake of transparency, it is important to report all findings, not just the positive results, throughout the paper.

      3. Structure<br /> 3.1 The Results section immediately proceeds to the one-way repeated measures ANOVA. This section could be more reader-friendly by including a brief overview of the task procedures and variables, e.g., shifting Fig. 3 to this section.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This study examines whether the human brain uses a hexagonal grid-like representation to navigate in a non-spatial space constructed by competence and trustworthiness. To test this, the authors asked human participants to learn the levels of competence and trustworthiness for six faces by associating them with specific lengths of bar graphs that indicate their levels in each trait. After learning, participants were asked to extrapolate the location from the partially observed morphing bar graphs. Using fMRI, the authors identified brain areas where activity is modulated by the angles of morphing trajectories in six-fold symmetry. The strength of this paper lies in the question it attempts to address. Specifically, the question of whether and how the human brain uses grid-like representations not only for spatial navigation but also for navigating abstract concepts, such as social space, and guiding everyday decision-making. This question is of emerging importance.

      The weak points of this paper are that its findings are not sufficiently supporting their arguments, and there are several reasons for this:

      1. Does the grid-like activity reflect 'navigation over the social space' or 'navigation in sensory feature space'? The grid-like representation in this study could simply reflect the transition between stimuli (the length of bar graphs). Participants in this study associated each face with a specific length of two bars, and the 'navigation' was only guided by the morphing of a bar graph image. Moreover, any social cognition was not required to perform the task where they estimate the grid-like activity. To make social decision-making that was conducted separately, we do not know if participants needed to navigate between faces in a social space. Instead, they can recall bar graphs associated with faces and compute the decision values by comparing the length of bars. Notably, in the trust game in this study, competence and trustworthiness are not equally important to make a decision (Equation 1). The expected value is more sensitive to one over the other. This also suggests that the space might not reflect social values but perceptual differences.

      2. Does the brain have a common representation of faces in a social space? In this study, participants don't need to have a map-like representation of six faces according to their levels of social traits. Instead, they can remember the values of each trait. The evidence of neural representations of the faces in a 2-dimensional social space is lacking. The authors argued that the relationship between the reaction times and the distances between faces provides evidence of the formation of internal representations. However, this can be found without the internal representation of the relationships between faces. If the authors seek internal representations of the faces in the brain, it would be important to show that this representation is not simply driven by perceptual differences between bar graphs that participants may recall in association with each face.

      Considering these caveats, it is hard for me to agree if the authors provide evidence to support their claims.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> In this work, Liang et al. investigate whether an abstract social space is neurally represented by a grid-like code. They trained participants to 'navigate' around a two-dimensional space of social agents characterized by the traits of warmth and competence, then measured neural activity as participants imagined navigating through this space. The primary neural analysis consisted of three procedures: 1) identifying brain regions exhibiting the hexagonal modulation characteristic of a grid-like code, 2) estimating the orientation of each region's grid, and 3) testing whether the strength of the univariate neural signal increases when a participant is navigating in a direction aligned with the grid, compared to a direction that is misaligned with the grid.<br /> From these analyses, the authors find the clearest evidence of a grid-like code in the prefrontal cortex and weaker evidence in the entorhinal cortex.

      Strengths:<br /> The work demonstrates the existence of a grid-like neural code for a socially-relevant task, providing evidence that such coding schemes may be relevant for a variety of two-dimensional task spaces.

      Weaknesses:<br /> In various parts of this manuscript, the authors appear to use a variety of terms to refer to the (ostensibly) same neural regions: prefrontal cortex, frontal pole, ventromedial prefrontal cortex (vmPFC), and orbitofrontal cortex (OFC). It would be useful for the authors to use more consistent terminology to avoid confusing readers.

      Claims about a grid code in the entorhinal cortex are not well-supported by the analyses presented. The whole-brain analysis does not suggest that the entorhinal cortex exhibits hexagonal modulation; the strength of the entorhinal BOLD signal does not track the putative alignment of the grid code there; multivariate analyses do not reveal any evidence of a grid-like representational geometry.

      On a conceptual level, it is not entirely clear how this work advances our understanding of grid-like encoding of two-dimensional abstract spaces, or of social cognition. The study design borrows heavily from Constantinescu et al. 2016, which is itself not an inherent weakness, but the Constantinescu et al. study already suggests that grid codes are likely to underlie two-dimensional spaces, no matter how abstract or arbitrary. If there were a hypothesis that there is something unique about how grid codes operate in the social domain, that would help motivate the search for social grid codes specifically, but no such theory is provided. The authors do note that warmth and competence likely have ecological importance as social traits, but other past studies have used slightly different social dimensions without any apparent loss of generality (e.g., Park et al. 2021). There are some (seemingly) exploratory analyses examining how individual difference measures like social anxiety and avoidance might affect the brain and behavior in this study, but a strong theoretical basis for examining these particular measures is lacking.

      I found it difficult to understand the analyses examining whether behavior (i.e., reaction times) and individual difference measures (i.e., social anxiety and avoidance) can be predicted by the hexagonal modulation strength in some region X, conditional on region X having a similar estimated grid alignment with some other region Y. It is possible that I have misunderstood the authors' logic and/or methodology, but I do not feel comfortable commenting on the correctness or implications of this approach given the information provided in the current version of this manuscript.

      It was puzzling to see passing references to multivariate analyses using representational similarity analysis (RSA) in the main text, given that RSA is only used in analyses presented in the supplementary material.

      References:<br /> Constantinescu, A. O., O'Reilly, J. X., & Behrens, T. E. (2016). Organizing conceptual knowledge in humans with a gridlike code. Science, 352(6292), 1464-1468.

      Park, S. A., Miller, D. S., & Boorman, E. D. (2021). Inferences on a multidimensional social hierarchy use a grid-like code. Nature Neuroscience, 24(9), 1292-1301.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Liang and colleagues set out to test whether the human brain uses distance and grid-like codes in social knowledge using a design where participants had to navigate in a two-dimensional social space based on competence and warmth during an fMRI scan. They showed that participants were able to navigate the social space and found distance-based codes as well as grid-like codes in various brain regions, and the grid-like code correlated with behavior (reaction times).

      On the whole, the experiment is designed appropriately for testing for distant-based and grid-like codes and is relatively well-powered for this type of study, with a large amount of behavioral training per participant. They revealed that a number of brain regions correlated positively or negatively with distance in the social space, and found grid-like codes in the frontal polar cortex and posterior medial entorhinal cortex, the latter in line with prior findings on grid-like activity in the entorhinal cortex. The current paper seems quite similar conceptually and in design to previous work, most notably by Park et al., 2021, Nature Neuroscience.

      Below, I raise a few issues and questions on the evidence presented here for a grid-like code as the basis of navigating abstract social space or social knowledge.

      1. The authors claim that this study provides evidence that humans use a spatial / grid code for abstract knowledge like social knowledge.

      This data does specifically not add anything new to this argument. As with almost all studies that test for a grid code in a similar "conceptual" space (not only the current study), the problem is that when the space is not a uniform, square/circular space, and 2-dimensional then there is no reason the code will be perfectly grid-like, i.e., show six-fold symmetry. In real-world scenarios of social space (as well as navigation, semantic concepts), it must be higher dimensional - or at least more than two-dimensional. It is unclear if this generalizes to larger spaces where not all part of the space is relevant. Modelling work from Tim Behrens' lab (e.g., Whittington et al., 2020) and Bradley Love's lab (e.g., Mok & Love, 2019) have shown/argued this to be the case. In experimental work, like in mazes from the Mosers' labs (e.g., Derdikman et al., 2009), or trapezoid environments from the O'Keefe lab (Krupic et al., 2015), there are distortions in mEC cells, and would not pass as grid cells in terms of the six-fold symmetry criterion.

      The authors briefly discuss the limitations of this at the very end but do not really say how this speaks to the goal of their study and the claim that social space or knowledge is organized as a grid code and if it is in fact used in the brain in their study and beyond. This issue deserves to be discussed in more depth, possibly referring to prior work that addressed this, and raising the issue for future work to address the problem - or if the authors think it is a problem at all.

      Data and analysis

      2. Concerning the negative correlation of distance with activation in the fusiform gyrus and visual cortex: this is a slightly puzzling but potentially interesting finding. However, could this be related to reaction times? The larger the distance, the longer the reaction times, so the original finding might reflect larger activations with smaller distances.

      3. Concerning the correlation of grid-like activity with behavior: is the correlation with reaction time just about how long people took (rather than a task-related neural signal)? The authors have only reported correlations with reaction time. The issue here is that the duration of reaction times also relates to the starting positions of each trial and where participants will navigate to. Considering the speed-accuracy tradeoff, could performance accuracy be negatively correlated with these grid consistency metrics? Or it could be positively correlated, which would suggest the grid signal reflects a good representation of the task.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      In this study, the authors show that a long-non coding RNA lncDACH1 inhibits sodium currents in cardiomyocytes by binding to and altering the localization of dystrophin. The authors use a number of methodologies to demonstrate that lncDACH1 binds to dystrophin and disrupts its localization to the membrane, which in turn downregulates NaV1.5 currents. Knockdown of lncDACH1 upregulates NaV1.5 currents. Furthermore, in heart failure, lncDACH1 is shown to be upregulated which suggests that this mechanism may have pathophysiolgoical relevance.

      Strengths:

      1. This study presents a novel mechanism of Na channel regulation which may be pathophysiologically important.

      2. The experiments are comprehensive and systematically evaluate the physiological importance of lncDACH1.

      Weaknesses:

      1. What is indicated by the cytoplasmic level of NaV1.5, a transmembrane protein? The methods do not provide details regarding how this was determined. Do you authors means NaV1.5 retained in various intracellular organelles?

      2. What is the negative control in Fig. 2b, Fig. 4b, Fig. 6e, Fig. 7c? The maximum current amplitude in these seem quite different. -40 pA/pF in some, -30 pA/pF in others and this value seems to be different than in CMs from WT mice (<-20 pA/pF). Is there an explanation for what causes this variability between experiments and/or increase with transfection of the negative control? This is important since the effect of lncDACH1 is less than 50% reduction and these could fall in the range depending on the amplitude of the negative control.

      3. NaV1.5 staining in Fig. 1E is difficult to visualize and to separate from lncDACH1. Is it possible to pseudocolor differently so that all three channels can be visualized/distinguished more robustly?

      4. The authors use shRNA to knockdown lncDACH1 levels. It would be helpful to have a scrambled ShRNA control.

      5. Is there any measurement on the baseline levels of LncDACH1 in wild-type mice? It seems quite low and yet is a substantial increase in NaV1.5 currents upon knocking down LncDACH1. By comparison, the level of LncDACH1 seems to be massively upregulated in TAC models. Have the authors measured NaV1.5 currents in these cells? Furthermore, does LncDACH1 knockdown evoke a larger increase in NaV1.5 currents?

      6. What do error bars denote in all bar graphs, and also in the current voltage relationships?

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This manuscript by Xue et al. describes the effects of a long noncoding RNA, lncDACH1, on the localization of Nav channel expression, the magnitude of INa, and arrhythmia susceptibility in the mouse heart. Because lncDACH1 was previously reported to bind and disrupt membrane expression of dystrophin, which in turn is required for proper Nav1.5 localization, much of the findings are inferred through the lens of dystrophin alterations.

      The results report that cardiomyocyte-specific transgenic overexpression of lncDACH1 reduces INa in isolated cardiomyocytes; measurements in whole heart show a corresponding reduction in conduction velocity and enhanced susceptibility to arrhythmia. The effect on INa was confirmed in isolated WT mouse cardiomyocytes infected with a lncDACH1 adenoviral construct. Importantly, reducing lncDACH1 expression via either a cardiomyocyte-specific knockout or using shRNA had the opposite effect: INa was increased in isolated cells, as was conduction velocity in heart. Experiments were also conducted with a fragment of lnDACH1 identified by its conservation with other mammalian species. Overexpression of this fragment resulted in reduced INa and greater proarrhythmic behavior. Alteration of expression was confirmed by qPCR.

      The mechanism by which lnDACH1 exerts its effects on INa was explored by measuring protein levels from cell fractions and immunofluorescence localization in cells. In general, overexpression was reported to reduce Nav1.5 and dystrophin levels and knockout or knockdown increased them.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      In this manuscript, the authors report the first evidence of Nav1.5 regulation by a long noncoding RNA, LncRNA-DACH1, and suggest its implication in the reduction in sodium current observed in heart failure. Since no direct interaction is observed between Nav1.5 and the LncRNA, they propose that the regulation is via dystrophin and targeting of Nav1.5 to the plasma membrane.

      Strengths:

      1. First evidence of Nav1.5 regulation by a long noncoding RNA.<br /> 2. Implication of LncRNA-DACH1 in heart failure and mechanisms of arrhythmias.<br /> 3. Demonstration of LncRNA-DACH1 binding to dystrophin.<br /> 4. Potential rescuing of dystrophin and Nav1.5 strategy.

      Weaknesses:

      1. Main concern is that the authors do not provide evidence of how LncRNA-DACH1 regulates Nav1.5 protein level. The decrease in total Nav1.5 protein by about 50% seems to be the main consequence of the LncRNA on Nav1.5, but no mechanistic information is provided as to how this occurs.<br /> 2. The fact that the total Nav1.5 protein is reduced by 50% which is similar to the reduction in the membrane reduction questions the main conclusion of the authors implicating dystrophin in the reduced Nav1.5 targeting. The reduction in membrane Nav1.5 could simply be due to the reduction in total protein.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Sukumar et al build on a body of work from the Palmer lab that seeks to unravel the transcriptional targets of Alk signaling (a receptor tyrosine kinase). Having uncovered its targets in the mesoderm in an earlier study, they seek to determine its targets in the central nervous system. To do this, they use Targeted DamID (TaDa) in the wild-type and Alk dominant negative background and identify about 1700 genes that might be under the control of Alk signalling. Using their earlier data and applying a set of criteria - upregulated in gain-of-Alk, downregulated in loss-of-Alk, and co-expressed with Alk positive cells in single cell datasets - they arrive upon a single gene, Sparkly, which is predicted to be a neuropeptide precursor.

      They generate antibodies and mutants for Sparkly and determine that it is responsive to Alk signalling and is expressed in many neuroendocrine cells, as well as in clock neurons. Though the mutants survive, they have reduced lifespans and are hyperactive. In summary, the authors identify a previously unidentified transcriptional target of Alk signalling, which is likely cleaved into a neuropeptide and is involved in regulating circadian activity.

      The data support claims made, are generally well presented and the manuscript clearly written. The link between circadian control of Alk signalling in Clock neurons > Spar expression > ultimately controlling circadian activity, however, was not clear.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This manuscript illustrates the power of "combined" research, incorporating a range of tools, both old and new to answer a question. This thorough approach identifies a novel target in a well-established signalling pathway and characterises a new player in Drosophila CNS development.

      Largely, the experiments are carried out with precision, meeting the aims of the project, and setting new targets for future research in the field. It was particularly refreshing to see the use of multi-omics data integration and Targeted DamID (TaDa) findings to triage scRNA-seq data. Some of the TaDa methodology was unorthodox (and should be justifed/caveats mentioned in the main text), however, this does not affect the main finding of the study.

      Their discovery of Spar as a neuropeptide precursor downstream of Alk is novel, as well as its ability to regulate activity and circadian clock function in the fly. Spar was just one of the downstream factors identified from this study, therefore, the potential impact goes beyond this one Alk downstream effector.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      The receptor tyrosine kinase Anaplastic Lymphoma Kinase (ALK) in humans is nervous system expressed and plays an important role as an oncogene. A number of groups have been signalling ALK signalling in flies to gain mechanistic insight into its various role. In flies, ALK plays a critical role in development, particularly embryonic development and axon targeting. In addition, ALK also was also shown to regulate adult functions including sleep and memory. In this manuscript, Sukumar et al., used a suite of molecular techniques to identify downstream targets of ALK signalling. They first used targeted DamID, a technique that involves a DNA methylase to RNA polymerase II, so that GATC sites in close proximity to PolII binding sites are marked. They performed these experiments in wild-type and ALK loss of function mutants (using an Alk dominant negative ALkDN), to identify Alk responsive loci. Comparing these loci with a larval single-cell RNAseq dataset identified neuroendocrine cells as an important site of Alk action. They further combined these TaDa hits with data from RNA seq in Alk Loss and Gain of Function manipulations to identify a single novel target of Alk signalling - a neuropeptide precursor they named Sparkly (Spar) for its expression pattern. They generated a mutant allele of Spar, raised an antibody against Spar, and characterised its expression pattern and mutant behavioural phenotypes including defects in sleep and circadian function.

      Strengths:

      The molecular biology experiments using TaDa and RNAseq were elegant and very convincing. The authors identified a novel gene they named Spar. They also generated a mutant allele of Spar (using CrisprCas technology) and raised an antibody against Spar. These experiments are lovely, and the reagents will be useful to the community. The paper is also well written, and the figures are very nicely laid out making the manuscript a pleasure to read.

      Weaknesses:

      My main concerns were around the genetics and behavioural characterisation which is incomplete. The authors generated a novel allele of Spar - Spar ΔExon1 and examined sleep and circadian phenotypes of this allele. However, they have only one mutant allele of Spar, and it doesn't appear as if this mutant was outcrossed, making it very difficult to rule out off-target effects. To make this data convincing, it would be better if the authors had a second allele, perhaps they could try RNAi?

      Further, the sleep and circadian characterisation could be substantially improved. In Fig 8 E-F it appears as if sleep was averaged over 30 days! This is a little bizarre. They then bin the data as day 1 - 12 and 12-30. This is not terribly helpful either. Sleep in flies, as in humans, undergoes ontogenetic changes - sleep is high in young flies, stabilises between day 3-12, and shows defects by around 3 weeks of age (cf Shaw et al., 2000 PMID 10710313). The standard in the sleep field is to average over 3 days or show one representative day. The authors should reanalyse their data as per this standard, and perhaps show data from 3-10 day old flies, and if they like from 20-30 day old flies. Further, sleep data is usually analysed and presented from lights on to lights on. This allows one to quantify important metrics of sleep consolidation including bout lengths in day and night, and sleep latency. These metrics are of great interest to the community and should be included.

      The authors also claim there are defects in circadian anticipatory activity. However, these data, as presented are not solid to me. The standard in the field is to perform eduction analyses and quantify anticipatory activity e.g. using the method of Harrisingh et al. (PMID: 18003827). Further, circadian period could also be evaluated. There are several free software packages to perform these analyses so it should not be hard to do.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This study was designed to examine the bypass of Ras/Erk signaling defects that enable limited regeneration in a mouse model of hepatic regeneration. The authors show that this hepatocyte proliferation is marked by expression of CD133 by groups of cells. The CD133 appears to be located on intracellular vesicles associated with microtubules. These vesicles are loaded with mRNA. The authors conclude that the CD133 vesicles mediate an intercellular signaling pathway that supports cell proliferation. These are new observations that have broad significance to the fields of regeneration and cancer.

      The primary observation is that the limited regeneration observed in livers with Ras/Erk signaling defects is associated with CD133 expression by groups of cells. The functional significance of CD133 was tested using Prom1 KO mice - the data presented are convincing.

      The major weakness of the study is that some molecular mechanistic details are unclear - this is, in part, due to the extensive new biology that is described. Nevertheless, the data used to support some key points in this study are unclear:

      a) What is the evidence that the observed CD133 groups of cells are not due to clonal growth. Is this conclusion based on the time course (the groups appear more rapidly than proliferation) or is this based on the GFP clonal analysis?

      b) What is the evidence that the CD133 vesicles mediate intercellular communication. This is an exciting hypothesis, but what is the evidence that this happens? Is this inferred from IEG mRNA diversity? or some other data. Is there direct evidence of transfer - for example, the does the GFP clonal analysis show transfer of GFP that is not mediated by clonal proliferation? Moreover, since the hepatocytes are isogenic, what distinguishes the donor and recipient cells?

      Increased clarity concerning what is hypothesis and what is directly supported by data - would improve the presentation of this study.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The manuscript by Kaneko set out to understand the mechanisms underlying cell proliferation in hepatocytes lacking Shp2 signals. To do this, the authors focused on CD133 as the proliferating clusters of cells in the Shp2 knockout (SKO) livers are CD133 expressing. After excluding the contribution of progenitors that are CD133 to this cell population, the authors focused on the intrinsic regulation of CD133 by Met/Shp2 regulated Ras/Erk parthway and showed upregulation of CD133 to be a compensatory signal to overcome loss of Ras/Erk signal and suggested Wnt10a in the regulation of CD133 signal. The study then focused on the observed filament localization of CD133 in the CD133+ cluster of cells. The study went on to identify the CD133+ vesicles that contain primarily mRNA vs. microRNA like other EVs. Specifically, the authors identified several mRNA species that encode IEGs, indicating a potential role for these CD133+ vesicles in cell proliferation signal transmission to neighboring cells via delivery of the IEG mRNAs as cargos. Finally, they showed that the induction of CD133 (and by derivative, the CD133+ vesicles) are necessary for maintaining cell proliferation in the cell cluster with high proliferation capacities in the SKO livers; and in intestinal crypt organoids treated with Met inhibitors to block Ras/ERk signal. In the revised manuscript, the authors more definitively identified the CD133+ vesicles. The authors also provided additional experimental evidence demonstrating the role of these CD133+ vesicles in cell-cell communication. The functional significance of CD133 on this cell-cell communication was further demonstrated with genetic knockout studies.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The authors use a combination of ChIP-seq, RNA-seq and ATAC-seq on FACS-purified germ cells to understand the changes in transcription and chromatin landscape of germline stem cells (GSCs) and their progeny during adult oogenesis.

      Strengths:<br /> The major strengths of the paper include high quality -omics data, robust analyses of the data, and a well-written manuscript. The data strongly support the conclusions (1) that GSCs have more open chromatin than its differentiating daughter cells, (2) that H3K9me3 heterochromatin forms in 16-cell cyst stage and silences GSC-enriched genes, transposons, and testis-biased and somatic genes; (3) that GSC-enriched genes encoding cell cycle control, protein synthesis and signal transduction reside in clusters in autosomal pericentric regions; and (4) that there is a transcriptionally-driven metabolic reprogramming of nurse (germline) cells to aerobic glycolysis.

      These data sets and analyses will have a high impact of the field of germline lifecycle (from GSC to primordial germ cells to GSCs again). The authors will make these data sets available through NCBI GEO and on Github. However, these are not incredibly user friendly and these data sets are extremely useful. I wonder if it is possible to incorporate these valuable data set into existing websites?

      Weaknesses:<br /> There are no obvious weaknesses.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      The preprint by Pang, Deluca, et al. investigates the molecular events occurring during germline stem cell (GSC) differentiation into an oocyte. The study highlights several critical observations:

      1. Gene Expression and Chromatin State: GSCs exhibit an open chromatin state and express a large number of genes. However, during differentiation, the number of genes expressed decreases.<br /> 2. Gene Clustering and Chromatin Domains: Genes promoting GSC fate are found in clusters close to centric heterochromatin domains.<br /> 3. Epigenetic Marks: The transition from GSC fate to oocyte/nurse cell fate is marked by an increase in H3K27me3 and H3K9me3 on regions, including centric heterochromatin.<br /> 4. Metabolic Rewiring: Genes related to metabolism undergo changes during this fate transition, indicating metabolic rewiring.

      Strengths:<br /> The conclusions are strongly supported by a substantial amount of data. Multiple complementary methods are employed, such as increased H3K9me3 heterochromatin and reporter assays, to validate the increase of H3K9me3 during meiosis.

      The wealth of data presented will be valuable to the scientific community, providing further insights into critical molecular events during GSC differentiation.

      The study uncovers new biology, notably the proximity of stem cell genes to centric heterochromatin and its regulation.

      Key observations include the low H3K9me3 levels on transposons in GSCs, which warrant further investigation.

      Weaknesses:<br /> To make the paper more accessible to a broader audience, the authors can use fewer jargon terms. In particular, the abbreviations used for staging can be confusing.

      Some sections in the results contain extensive discussion that may be better suited for the discussion section. For example, see page 9.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      The current manuscript builds on a previous publication from the same group(s) (https://doi.org/10.7554/eLife.77779) that identified several new interacting partners of the ESCRT pathway. The authors show via fluorescence polarization anisotropy (FPA) and NMR spectroscopy that the microtubule-interacting and trafficking (MIT) domains of CALPAIN7 bind to the IST1 subunit of the ESCRT-III complex. The authors used a powerful combination of biochemical, structural, and cell biological tools. The experiments are designed well and are performed to a high standard. The vast majority of the conclusions are supported by the data.

      The authors report the X-ray crystal structure of the MIT-IST complex show the exact residues involved in the interaction and the mode of binding. They validate their findings and put them in a biological context by introducing mutations into the key residues in the MIT domain of CALPAIN7 and IST domain of ESCRT-III that can disrupt and restore the molecular interactions using in vitro biochemical assays and in vivo immunofluorescence microscopy imaging.

      The writing is exceptional. I could not spot a single typographical or grammatical error. The manuscript is easy to read. It is concise and is nicely supported by high-quality figures. It was a pleasure to read.

      The authors provide a great amount of detailed information about the experiments performed and have deposited the majority (if not all) of the plasmids used in the study in a public depository. They should be commended for this decision.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Please note that I am not a structural biologist and cannot critically evaluate the details of figures 1 to 3; my review focuses on the cell biology experiments in figures 4 and 5.

      Paine and colleagues investigated structural requirements for the interaction between the ESCRT-III subunit IST1 and the protease CAPN7. This is a continuation of previous work by the same group (Wenzel et al., eLife 2022), which showed that Capn7 is recruited to the midbody by Ist1 and that Capn7 promotes both normal abscission and NoCut abscission checkpoint function. In this article, the structural determinants of the Ist1-Capn7 interaction are characterised in more detail, focusing on the structure of Capn7 MIT domains and their binding to Ist1. Notably, point mutations in Capn7 MIT domains known to mediate binding to Ist1 and midbody recruitment are shown here to be required for abscission functions, as expected from the authors' previous paper. Furthermore, the report shows that a Capn7 point mutant lacking proteolytic activity behaves as a loss-of-function in abscission assays, despite showing normal midbody localisation. These are important results that will help in future studies to understand how the Capn7 protease regulates abscission mechanistically.

      The report is clearly written and the results support the main conclusions. Some technical limitations and alternative interpretations of the data should be discussed in the text, as outlined below.

      1. It is not always clearly stated how the results presented in this report relate to those in the Wenzel paper. For example, the finding that Ist1 recruits Capn7 to midbodies (p. 6 and figure 4) was first shown in the Wenzel paper. The novelty here is not that Capn7 MIT mutants fail to localise to midbodies, but that they phenocopy the previously described knockdown of Capn7, failing to support normal abscission and NoCut function (fig. 5). This supports and extends the findings of Wenzel et al. It is important to make this explicit and explain the conceptual advances shown here more clearly.<br /> 2. The NoCut checkpoint can be triggered by chromatin bridges, DNA replication stress, and nuclear basket defects, but only basket defects are tested here. Therefore, it is not clear if NoCut is still functional in Capn7-defective cells after replication stress and/or with chromatin bridges. Ideally, this should be tested experimentally, or alternatively discussed in the text, especially since the molecular details of how NoCut is engaged under different conditions remain unclear. For example, "abscission checkpoint bodies" proposed to control abscission timing form in response to nuclear basket defects and aphidicolin treatment, but not in the presence of chromatin bridges (Strohacker et al., eLife 2021).<br /> 3. The current data suggest that Capn7 is a regulator of abscission timing, but in my opinion do not quite establish this, for two main reasons. First, abscission timing is not directly measured in this study. Time-lapse imaging would be required to rule out alternative interpretations of the data in figure 5. For example, a delay in an earlier cell cycle stage could in principle lead to a decrease in the overall fraction of midbody-stage cells. Second, the absence of the midbody is not necessarily a marker of complete abscission. Indeed, midbody disassembly is associated with the completion of abscission in unchallenged HeLa cells, but not in cells with chromatin bridges (Steigemann et al, Cell 2009). Midbodies remain a useful marker for pre-abscission cells, but the absence of midbodies should not be immediately interpreted as completion of abscission without further assays. Formally, a direct measurement of abscission timing would require imaging of the plasma membrane, for example using time-lapse phase-contrast microscopy (Fremont et al., 2016 Nat Comm). These limitations should be mentioned in the text.<br /> 4. IST1 plays a role in nuclear envelope sealing by recruiting the co-factor Spastin (Vietri et al., Nature 2015), a known IST1 co-factor also confirmed in the previous interactome screen (Wenzel et al. 2022). CAPN7 could have a role in maintaining nuclear integrity upon the KD of Nup153 and Nup50 (Mackay et al. 2010) instead of/in addition to its proposed role in delaying abscission as part of the NoCut checkpoint at the midbody. I don't think the authors can differentiate between these two possibilities, and it would be interesting to consider their possible implications on how the "NoCut" checkpoint is triggered.<br /> 5. Figure 5 should include images of representative cells, highlighting midbody-positive and multinucleated cells. Without images, it is not possible to evaluate the quality of these data.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      A central step in cell division is the formation of midbody abscission that separates two daughter cells at the end of cytokinesis. The ESCRT, endosomal sorting complexes required for transport, plays a critical role in this process. Specifically, the ESCRT-III proteins are actively recruited throughout the cell at the membrane fission sites, and their oligomerization into filaments is necessary to constrict the cell membranes to the fission point. Fundamental structural elements in ESCRT-III interactome are the so-called MIT-interacting motifs (MIMs) located at the protein's C terminal portion. Recently, Sundquist and co-workers (eLife 2022) identified several cofactors interacting with ESCRT-III subunits directly implicated in abscission. Among those cofactors, they identified Calpain-7, a cysteine protease whose function is still unclear. Calpain-7 comprises two MIT domains that target ESCRT-II subunit IST1. Here, the authors use structural methods and cell assays to characterize the interactions between Calpain-7 and IST1. For the structural studies, they constructed a minimalistic system in which MT1 and MT2 domains of Calpain-7 interact with the two MIMs localized in the IST1 construct. The truncated constructs interact with high affinity, recapitulating the strength of interaction expected for the full-length constructs in the cell. Using fluorescence polarization anisotropy binding isotherms, these researchers obtained solid binding data, showing a dissociation constant of 0.09 uM for the construct containing both MIMs, ~2 uM for the second MIM domain, and 100 uM for the first MIM. These data suggest a synergistic binding mechanism between the two MIM domains. The authors expressed and purified these constructs in recombinant systems and obtained purified isotopically labeled proteins to study by NMR. To characterize the binding by NMR, the authors studied the IST1 constructs with the two MIMs in the absence and presence of Calpain-7. The IST1 construct displays a well-resolved NMR fingerprint, with most resonances assigned to specific residues. Upon addition of the Calpain-7 construct, the resonances of the residues involved in the binding either broaden beyond detection or shift significantly, which supports the fluorescence binding studies. Given the high affinity, these authors were able to crystallize these complexes and identify the binding interfaces that parallel the solution NMR studies. Mutational studies confirm the hot spots for the interactions, and the authors concluded that the MIT:MIM binding interface is responsible for the association of the full-length constructs of Calpain-7 and IST1 in the cell. Using localization experiments, the authors concluded that IST1 is responsible for recruiting Calpain-7 to midbodies, and the presence of both MIT domains of Calpain-7 and MIM domains is required for localization. Taken together, the biophysical characterization of these complexes and the cell assays led the authors to conclude that IST1 binding to Calpain-7 is necessary for its role in abscission and Nocut checkpoint maintenance.<br /> In my opinion, the research is well executed and also supported by their previous finding (see Sundquist 2022 eLife). The paper is succinct and well-written.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Iskusnykh et al. present an elegant and thorough analysis of the role of transcription factor Lmx1a as a master regulator of the cortical hem, which is a secondary organizer in the brain. The authors report that loss of Lmx1a in the hem alters expression levels of Wnts, that Lmx1a is critical for hem progenitors to exit the cell cycle properly, and that Lmx1a loss leads to defects in CR cell differentiation and migration. Furthermore, the authors show that hem-like fate can be induced by overexpressing Lmx1a. This is a fundamental role for a transcription factor that was long used as a hem marker but was never examined for its function in the hem. This study has broader implications for how secondary organizers are created in the embryo and would be of great interest to a wide readership. The conclusions are broadly well supported by the data, though there are a few points of interpretation that need to be addressed.

      (1) Figure 3A shows staining intensity in WT and Lmx1a-/- whereas the quantification has Lmx1a+/-. Both genotypes are relevant, -/- and +/-, to test whether the loss of 1 copy of Lmx1a results in a partial diminution of Wnt3a levels. Likewise, it is necessary to examine Wnt3a expression levels in the Wnt3a+/- embryo. Together, these could explain why the Lmx1a+/-; Wnt3a+/- double heterozygote has a DG phenotype, otherwise, it remains an unexplained though interesting observation.

      (2) Line 309: "to test Wnt3a as a downstream mediator of Lmx1a function in CH/DG development, we performed an analysis of Lmx1a/Wnt3a double heterozygotes rather than Wnt3a overexpression rescue experiments in Lmx1a -/- mice."

      The authors' reasoning is unclear. The double het experiments do not go on to show that one gene acts via the other. It's entirely possible the two act via parallel pathways.<br /> However, since Lmx1a does indeed regulate Wnt3a levels, this is a good argument for suggesting it acts via Wnt3a, even without the overexpression rescue. The authors could reorganize the data and rephrase the definitive "acts via" statement (also in the heading of this section, line 289, and discussion, line 553) to better fit the data.

      (3) In the discussion section, the authors should include that trans-hilar and supragranular scaffold is disrupted in Lrp6 and Lef1 single as well as double mutants, which indicates Wnt signaling has a role to play in the morphogenesis of this scaffold. In this context, the author may discuss how Lmx1a could regulate this process via modulating Wnt signaling.

      (4) Reduction in Tbr2 levels (Fig4B): E 13.5, not all Tbr2+ cells in the hem show a visible decrease in Tbr2 levels. The CR cells in the marginal zone show faint Tbr2. It would be useful if the staining intensity within the hem was quantified by dividing the section into three bins along the radial axis: Ventricular Zone, "Intermediate" zone, and Marginal zone to get a sense of the intensity profile. Co-labeling with p73 would identify CR cells and distinguish them from hem progenitors.

      (5) Are the total number of Prox1+ cells at E14.5 similar between control and Lmx1a-/- ? Might the decrease in Prox1+ cells in the DG of P21 Lmx1a-/- animals occur due to granule cell death or because fewer cells were specified due to lower Wnts from the compromised Lmx1a-/- hem? The authors should examine cell death, labeling with CC3 and Prox1 together to test the cell death angle and discuss if the specification angle applies.

      (6) In figure 6, the authors show that Lmx1a OE is sufficient to induce hem-like features, and identify p73+ cells (CR cell lineage). Is the choroid lineage not induced or was it not examined? A line to this effect would be useful. Also, the validation that it is indeed ectopic hem could be stronger with a few additional markers, since this is a striking finding.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The cortical hem is one of the main signaling centers in the vertebrate forebrain, regulating neurogenesis of the medial pallium and the generation of Cajal-Retzius neurons. The authors examine how this signaling center is formed and functions. Previously, transcription factors playing instructive roles in the development of the cortical hem have been identified, but a master regulator had not been found so far. The authors build on their previous work studying the transcription factor Lmx1a which is one of the earliest and most specific cortical hem markers.

      By combining loss- and gain-of-function studies, RNA sequencing, histology, and analysis of downstream factors, the authors rigorously show Lmx1a is required for the expression of signaling molecules in the hem, the proliferation and functionality of dentate gyrus neurons, the cell cycle exit and differentiation (and also migration) of cajal-retzius cells and this by activating different downstream regulators.

      They use golden standard experiments in the field such as BrdU-Ki67 cell-cycle exit measurements, RNA sequencing, and patch clamping; combined with state-of-the-art techniques such as RNAscope and laser capture microdissection. These convincingly show that Lmx1a regulates the proliferation of dentate gyrus progenitor cells and a malformation of the transhilar scaffold. The authors also claim a migration deficit for dentate gyrus progenitors, but they do not consider apoptosis or show direct evidence for migration abnormalities.<br /> In the hem, the authors report normal proliferation and apoptosis in the Lmx1a mutants, but aberrant cell-cycle-exit, from which the authors conclude a problem in differentiation. However, this could be a cell cycle progression problem too (stuck in a certain cell cycle phase?), as the RNAseq data suggest. The authors should acknowledge this possibility.

      The RNAseq dataset provides candidate downstream regulators of the observed phenotypes and the authors test the functionality of Wnt3a, Tbr2, and Cdkn1a, showing they are involved in distinct processes.<br /> Strikingly, Wnt3a is not significantly downregulated in the RNAseq data in the Lmx1a mutant, but quantification of in situ hybridization signal (which is less robust) did reveal a significant difference. Is this a splice variant issue? A timing issue or specificity of the RNAscope probe? The authors should look into this more carefully.

      To study the role of Cdkn1a, the authors performed rescue experiments using in utero electroporation, which is a standard in the field. However, they argued before that "CR cell migration and DG morphogenesis are complex processes that require precise expression levels of key genes" when studying downstream factors Wnt3a and Tbr2. Why is this no longer an issue studying Cdkn1a?<br /> To study cell-cycle exit in this model, the authors quantified GFP and Ki67. Since electroporation not only targets the progenitor cells (see e.g. Govindan et al. 2018, Nature protocols), the authors should confirm these results with a BrdU/Ki67 quantification as in previous experiments, or confirm electroporation only targeted progenitor cells in their model.

      Lastly, the authors ectopically expressed Lmx1a and convincingly show its ability to generate a hem-like structure. Could the authors elaborate on the necessity for a medial signature? Can the hem be ectopically induced in the lateral pallium?

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Huang, Kevin Y. et al. perform a meta-analysis of single-cell RNA-seq (scRNA-seq) data derived from 11 studies and across six tissues (liver, lung, heart, skin, kidney, endometrium) to address a focused hypothesis: pro-fibrotic SPP1+ macrophages that have been found in liver and lung tissue of idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis patients exist in other human tissues which can result in broader fibrotic disease states. The authors use existing, state-of-the-art single-cell analysis tools to perform the meta-analysis. They convincingly show that the SPP1+ macrophage population can be identified in lung, liver, heart, skin, uterus (endometrium), and kidney clusters derived from each tissues' scRNA-seq data. They further identify three subpopulations of the SPP1+ macrophages: a matrisome-associated macrophages (MAMs) defined as SPP1+MAM+ and two others enriched for inflammatory and ribosomal processes which they group together and define as SPP1+MAM-. Pathway analysis of genes unregulated in SPP1+MAM+ vs SPP1+MAM- cells yields significant enrichment of extracellular matrix remodeling and metabolism-related pathways and genes. This allows them to arrive at SPP1+MAM+ and SPP1+MAM- gene expression signature scores to further highlight the upregulation of these pathways in SPP1+MAM+ macrophages and their role in fibrosis. They explicitly show enrichment for SPP1+MAM+ macrophages in disease compared to healthy control subjects in a variety of tissues and their associated fibrosis-related diseases. Cell differentiation trajectory analysis identified 2 main trajectories: both starting from FCN1+ infiltrating monocytes/macrophages with one moving toward a homeostatic state and another toward SPP1+MAM+. They verified this using an alternative trajectory analysis approach. Importantly, for all tissues and fibrotic diseases, they found SPP1+MAM+ were at the end of the trajectory preceded by the SPP1+MAM- state, suggesting SPP1+MAM+ represents a common polarization state of SPP1+ macrophages. They develop a probability-based score that estimates the propensity of SPP1+MAM- macrophages to differentiate into SPP1+MAM+ and show that this was significantly higher in fibrotic disease subjects compared to healthy controls. They go on to identify the transcription factor networks (regulons) associated with SPP1+MAM+ differentiation and activation. They find a number of enriched regulons/transcription factors and through a linear-modeling trajectory analysis highlight the regulons that are associated specifically with the SPP1+MAM- to SPP1+MAM+ transition. In this way, they prioritize the NFATC1 and HIVEP3 regulations as driving the differentiation of SPP1+MAM- macrophages toward the SPP1+MAM+ polarization state. Finally, given that age is a risk factor for fibrotic disease, they assessed the association of SPP1+MAM+ and SPP1+MAM- gene signatures in healthy control old and young human subjects as well as old and young mice and found SPP1+MAM+ was either exclusively (human) or more significantly (mice) elevated in old versus young compared to SPP1+MAM-.

      The strengths of this paper are the authors gathered a number of relevant single-cell RNA-seq data sets from fibrosis-focused studies to address a highly focused hypothesis (stated above). They gained the power to detect the population of SPP1+MAM+ cells by integrating these datasets. The analysis is carried out well using existing state-of-the-art tools. With whatever metric or single cell analysis-based discovery they make about the SPP1+MAM+ subpopulations (e.g., gene signatures, endpoint of trajectory analysis, associated regulons, etc), they compare the relevant scoring metrics in fibrosis and control subjects at every stage of the meta-analysis and find the SPP11+MAM+ is consistently higher across tissues and fibrosis-related diseases.

      There are only minor weaknesses in this paper. One is that some of the most highly significant or simply significant results are not shown in main figures but are summarized in supplementary tables (e.g., MYC TARGETS V1 would have appeared as the most significant, highest enriched, and among the largest in terms of set size). Another is analysis criteria that may not yield the most biologically relevant or impactful conclusion (e.g., while the regulon THRA does not display a shift in slopes it shows the strongest, progressive increase going toward the SPP1+MAM+ state).

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      In the past few years, single-cell transcriptomics analysis has uncovered cellular states associated with disease in experimental models and humans, revealing previously unrecognized disease-associated macrophage states. In particular, a macrophage state characterized by high expression of SPP1 (encoding osteopontin), and by a specific gene expression signature including the expression of TREM2, has been observed in various pathologies and given various names depending on the context e.g. TREM2hi macrophages, lipid-associated macrophages (LAM), disease-associated microglia (DAM), Scar-associated macrophages (SAM), etc... However, a focused investigation and comparison of SPP1+ macrophages across disease contexts were lacking. Here, the authors aimed to systematically analyze SPP1+ macrophages in the context of tissue fibrosis, and integrated single-cell RNA-seq data of >200,000 human macrophages in 6 organs in health and tissue fibrosis.

      Beyond confirming the presence of SPP1+ macrophages with a conserved gene expression module (TREM2, CD9, GPNMB, etc...) across tissues and their association with fibrosis, the authors identified a previously unknown cell subset within SPP1+ macrophages, that was enriched for the expression of genes involved in remodeling of the extracellular matrix, which they termed SPP1+ matrisome-associated macrophages (SPP1+MAM+). The authors further used computational tools to compare these SPP1+MAM+ macrophages to previously described SPP1+ macrophage states (LAM, DAM, SAM), investigate the differentiation and activation trajectory of SPP1+MAM+ macrophages, and identify potential transcriptional regulators involved in their differentiation. Finally, the authors show that SPP1+MAM+ macrophages are associated with ageing in both humans and mice.

      Overall, the conclusions of the authors are well supported by the data. The authors made excellent use of available computational tools, and the figures are clear and informative. The methods are well-described and appropriately used. In particular, the authors made a nice effort in explaining and justifying some key decisions in their scRNA-seq data analysis workflow, including a data-driven approach to decisions in the clustering analysis.

      The author's findings are of broad interest to the fields of tissue inflammation, fibrosis, macrophage biology, and immunology, and their report constitutes a valuable resource, and a basis for further investigations of macrophage differentiation mechanisms in tissue fibrosis, and how macrophages could be targeted to alleviate pathological tissue fibrosis.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      The manuscript by Salloum and colleagues examines the role of statin-mediated regulation of mitochondrial cholesterol as a determinant of epigenetic programming via JMJD3 in macrophages.

      Key strengths of the work include:

      1. Mechanistic analysis of how statin treatments can remodel the mitochondrial membrane content via cholesterol depletion which in turn affects JMJD3 levels is a novel concept.

      2. Use of RNA-seq and ATAC-seq data provides an avenue for unbiased analysis of the statin effects.

      3. Use of methyl-cyclodextrin (MCD) alongside statins increases the robustness of the findings and the use of NFKB inhibitors suggests a mechanistic role for NFKB.

      The conclusions are only partially supported by the presented data:

      1. There is a lack of any in vivo studies that are required to demonstrate that the concentrations of statins used to induce epigenetic programming of macrophages are physiologically relevant. There have been numerous studies that have examined the anti-inflammatory effects of statins but there is significant debate and controversy regarding the in vivo relevance. Much of the in vivo effects of statins are achieved via changes in systemic cholesterol levels but the direct effects on macrophages are not clear.

      2. "Statins" is used globally and it is unclear which statins were used, which doses of statins, and the treatment durations

      3. The RNA-seq, ATAC-seq, and selected H3K27 ChIP only show a snapshot of the results without leveraging the power of unbiased analysis. Such an unbiased analysis could show whether the examined genes are indeed the most relevant targets of statins.

      4. CCCP depletion can have broad toxic effects and it is difficult to interpret specific roles of ATP synthase from potentially toxic mitochondrial uncoupling.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      In this study, the authors pursue a line of inquiry related to the impacts of cholesterol depletion on macrophage gene expression. The authors find that depletion of cholesterol with either statins or methyl-cyclodextrin induces robust gene expression changes, including changes to JMJD3 expression, an epigenetic regulator.

      The authors then seek to dissect the mechanistic determinants of the regulation of JMJD3 in macrophages converging on a metabolic regulation hypothesis that requires mitochondrial activity.

      A strength of the paper is the use of multiple macrophage cell models and multiple tools for perturbation to improve the rigor of their conclusions. A weakness of the paper is that it relies heavily on chemical approaches without ever using genetic tools to confirm that their conclusions can be supported using an alternative approach, and when perturbing metabolic pathways as described here, it is difficult to understand how the entire cell state has changed. In fact, the unique focus on JMJD3 without utilizing a control set of genes to show that the impacts of these metabolic perturbations are specific to JMJD3 makes it hard to understand if this is a truly specific pathway for JMJD3 or a general cellular health change.

      The authors make an interesting claim in the early part of their manuscript about the potential for statins to regulate the epigenome which they show; however, in the present presentation, it is unclear if this is related to the JMJD3 effect or a separate form of regulation.

      This work has the potential to contribute to an improved understanding of the impact of statins on immune function.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      The manuscript by Salloum et al., titled "Statin-mediated reduction in mitochondrial cholesterol primes an anti-inflammatory response in macrophages by upregulating JMJD3" reports an extensive characterization of the mechanisms underlying the anti-inflammatory role of statins using different in vitro studies. Based on these approaches, the authors observed that cholesterol reduction in response to statin treatment alters mitochondrial function and they identify JMJD3 as a potential critical driver of macrophage anti-inflammatory phenotype. Overall, the study is interesting and provides new findings that could shed light on the molecular effects of statins in these cells, but a number of issues remain confusing, and the experimental design is, on some occasions, not rigorous enough to support the drawn conclusions.

      Major issues:

      1. Focus on JMJD3 is justified by the authors as it was among the 40 genes commonly up-regulated in macrophages exposed to statin or methyl--cyclodextrin (MCD) by RNA-Seq analysis. However, this analysis has not been presented in the manuscript and it is unclear what genes (apart from JMJD3) might play an important role in the response of these cells. A detailed characterization of both up- and down-regulated genes in these experimental conditions and a better justification for JMJD3 are required to fully support further analysis.<br /> 2. In the same line, Figures 6A and B fail to fully describe the changes found by ATAC-seq and RNA-seq. A more comprehensive analysis of these three datasets (together with previous RNA-seq studies) would help to obtain a better understanding of overlapping dysregulated genes (not only those found up-regulated) and what other epigenetic modifying factors might be involved.<br /> 3. In Figure 6C and Supplementary Figure 7, it would be noteworthy to also measure the gene expression of Kdm6a/UTX homolog Kdm6c/UTY, as it has been shown to lack demethylate H3K27me3 demethylase activity due to mutations in the catalytic site of the Jumomji-C-domain.<br /> 4. The use of rather unspecific treatments such as MG-132 (proteasome inhibitor) and GSKj4 (inhibitor of both JMJD3 and UTX) may distort the results observed and might elude their correct interpretation. To avoid this limitation, additional silencing and/or overexpression experiments are currently needed.<br /> 5. Figure 3 and Supplementary Figure 3 seem to be duplicated, please correct them. Moreover, for a better representation of these data, please include representative Seahorse profile figures of each experimental condition in these figures.<br /> 6. As stated by the authors, macrophage phenotype is much more complex than M1/M2 polarization. In this view, assessing a very limited set of genes (i.e, Il-1, IL-10, TNF, IL-6, IL-12, Arg1, Ym1, Mrc1) appears to be inappropriate. A meaningful number of markers must be added.<br /> 7. For accurate quantification of H3K27me3 global levels, please add immunoblotting against histone H3 in Supplementary Figure 1.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this manuscript, Drs. Miura, Mori, and colleagues, first present lineage tracing data using PDGFRa-CreERT2 and Foxa2-Cre drivers to show that PDGFRa+ cells, when lineage-labeled early in development go on to form the lung mesenchyme (but little to none of the epithelium), whereas FOXA2 expressing cells go on to contribute to both the lung epithelium and lung mesenchyme. However, it is already well known that FOXA2 is expressed in the mesendoderm around the time of gastrulation, and that this population generates both endoderm and mesodermal derivatives. As a result, it is not surprising that lineage labeling this population would contribute to both the lung epithelium and lung mesenchyme. The authors use the term bona fide lung (BFL) generative lineage. However, since the mesendoderm contributes to both the endoderm and mesoderm, but is by no means specific to the lung, and as shown in this paper (Figure 2G) the FOXA2 population only generates 30-40% of the mesenchyme, the term BFL is both confusing and misleading.

      In the second portion of the manuscript, the authors conditionally delete Fgfr2 using a Foxa2-Cre driver. Although loss of Fgf10 or Fgfr2 is known to result in lung agenesis, deletion of Fgfr2 within the FOXA2+ expressing cells is novel. However, since FOXA2 is broadly expressed within the nascent lung epithelium and Fgfr2 is known to be expressed within the lung epithelium, it isn't entirely clear how much information this adds beyond what already known from other Fgfr2 knockout studies. Perhaps the most interesting aspect of the reported phenotype is that the other organs (e.g. intestine) in these knockout animals appears to be relatively spared. This should be better characterized by the authors, as currently only a few H&E images are shown.

      The authors then used conditional blastocyst complementation with nGFP+iPSCs from wild-type mice to rescue the phenotype of the Fgfr2 conditional knockout mice, showing that an embryonic lung is formed. However, blastocyst complementation has previously been performed with other knockout mouse models with severe lung hypoplasia/aplasia, including Dr. Mori's previous Nature Medicine paper. Although most of the previous mouse models target the endoderm/early epithelial cells (e.g. conditional deletion of Ctnnb1, Fgfr2, or global knockout of Nkx2.1; see Li E, et al. Dev Dyn 2021 Jul;250(7):1001-1020; Wen B, Am J Resp Crit Care Med. 2020; in addition to Mori M, Nature Medicine, 2019), Kitahara A, et al (Cell Rep. May 12 2020;31(6):107626) previously reported blastocyst complementation in in Fgf10 null mouse model, so it is not clear what the current study significantly adds contributes to this existing body of literature. The lungs of the mice undergoing blastocyst complementation are also incompletely characterized in the current version of this study. For example, it is unclear how functional these lungs are and whether they are capable of gas exchange after birth.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      For most organs including lung produced by blastocyst complementation, certain cells including the blood vessels are still derived from host tissues, making them unfit for transplantation. To address this issue, Miura et al. explored the origin and the program of whole lung epithelium and mesenchyme, and identified the crucial Foxa2 lineage for lung organogenesis by using lineage tracing mice and human iPSC derived lung differentiation. They found that Foxa2 lineage cells contribute to both lung epithelium and mesenchyme formation, which suggest targeting Fox2 lineage cells could create an empty developmental niche for blastocyst complementation in mice. They further deplete Fgfr2 gene in Foxa2 lineage cells to induce the lung agenesis phenotype in mice, and donor mouse iPSCs injected into Fgfr2 mutant blastocysts occupied the empty niche and formed the missing lung.

      Strengths:

      To fill our knowledge gap of the origin of all lung cell types, especially pulmonary mesenchyme and endothelium, the authors investigated the lineage hierarchy of specified lung precursors in gastrulating mesendoderm. Using mouse lineage trancing and human iPSC derived lung differentiation, they clarified the msendoderm gene Expression pattern and progression, and compared the contributions of Pdgfra and Foxa2 lineage cells during lung development. They further demonstrate that the defective Foxa2 lineage in critically important for efficient lung complementation, which provide insight for next generation lung transplant therapies.

      Weakness:

      1. Several lineage tracing experiment lack rigorous quantification, the authors using "partially labels" or "labels a part of" in the text to describe their finding and conclusion, which make the evidence less solid.

      2. The ideal lung for transplant should be functional for gas exchange, the lung complementation was only analyzed at E17.5 and E14.5, these two stages were too early to determine the function of the lungs generated via CBC.

      3. Immune cells contribute large proportion in the lung, and are critical for lung transplant, the chimerism analysis of immune cells is missing in this study.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      In this manuscript, the authors examine the role of Sirt2 on cardiac hypertrophy by using 2 in-vivo models- systemic KO of Sirt2 and cardiac-specific KO of Sirt 2. The authors show that Sirt2 is important for the development of heart failure and cardiac hypertrophy. Mechanistically, the authors show that Sirt2 regulates NRF2 and that deletion of Sirt2 is protective through stabilization and increased nuclear translocation of NRF2. The paper is clinically relevant and the data is of high quality.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      In this study, Yang et al. have shown that SIRT2 plays an adverse effect on the heart in response to injury. Further, the groups showed that the deletion of Sirt2 is protective through stabilization and increased nuclear translocation of NRF2, which leads to increased expression of antioxidant genes. They also show that pharmacological inhibition of SIRT2 protects the heart against the development of cardiac hypertrophy. Although this is an interesting finding, at the same time, this study contradicts the previous findings where Xiaoqiang Tang et al. https://doi.org/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.117.028728Circulation. 2017;136:2051-2067) have shown that SITR2 as a cardioprotective deacetylase and Sirt2 knockout is markedly exaggerated cardiac hypertrophy and fibrosis. Although Yang et al. in the discussion part have mentioned that this could be due to mice background. In my opinion, this is not satisfactory. It is important for the scientific community to come to a conclusion about the function of SIRT2 in the heart. The author could use the Global germ-line Sirt2-KO mice (C57BL/6J background; stock no. 012772) TAC model to show the function of SITR2 in cardiac hypertrophy.

      The strength of this article is the mechanism where the author showed that SIRT2 function is through the increased NRF2 deacetylation and its degradation and eventual reduction in the levels of antioxidant genes.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Sangar and co-workers have shown the role of Syntaxin 6 on prion (PrP) protein aggregation and have claimed a possible molecular mechanism behind its role in pathogenesis of Prion diseases like CJD. Authors have elaborately shown the aggregation kinetics of PrP in absence and presence of Stx6 by their in-house developed NAA assay which allowed them to catch the interaction of PrP with other cellular proteins like Stx6 or Hspa1a. By in vitro aggregation kinetics assays, authors show that Stx6 delays the aggregation kinetics of PrP and leads to amorphous aggregates rather than well-formed fibrils. By a neurite length detection assay with treatment of preformed PrP-fibrils (with or without Stx6 interaction), they show enhanced toxicity of Prp-Stx6 aggregates compared to PrP fibrils. However, there are a number of concerns related to physiological relevance that need to be addressed by the authors.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The work reports a minor modification in the protocol for Prp formation in vitro. Using this the authors evaluate the role of Syntaxin 6 in modulating prion formation in vitro and the toxicity of the amyloid fibrils in cell culture models. The authors show that while prions/amyloids formed by PrP are non-toxic, mixed aggregates formed by Stx6/PrP are toxic; they claim that this is due to the toxic aggregation intermediates that accumulate more in the presence of Stx6. However, the basis of enhanced toxicity of Stx6/PrP mixed aggregates is not clear and doesn't seem to be physiologically relevant; there is no evidence that Stx6 and PrP forms mixed aggregates in vivo. Which is the toxic component of the Stx6/Prp co-aggregate? Is it the Stx6 component or the Prp component? Additionally, the authors do not have mechanistic explanation for the effect of Stx6 on PrP prion formation

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      The autocatalytic replication mechanism of misfolded Prion-like proteins (PrP) into amyloid aggregates is associated with a plethora of deleterious neurodegenerative diseases. Despite of the huge amount of research, the underlying molecular events of self-replication and identification of the toxic species are not fully understood. Many recent studies have indicated that non-fibrillar oligomeric intermediates could be more neurotoxic compared to the Prion fibrils. Various cellular factors, like the participation of other proteins and chaperone activity, also play an important role in PrP misfolding, aggregation, and neurotoxicity. The present work focuses on understanding the PrP aggregation mechanism with the identification of the associated toxic species and cellular factors. One of the significant strengths of the work is performing the aggregation assay in near-native conditions. In contrast, most in vitro studies use harsh conditions (such as high temperature, denaturant, detergent, low pH, etc.) to promote protein aggregation. The authors successfully observed the well-known seeding property of the PrP in this aggregation assay that bypasses the primary nucleation during aggregation. Moreover, the authors have shown that syntaxin 6 (Stx6), a known risk factor in prion-mediated Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, delays fibril formation and prolongs the persistence of toxic intermediates, thus playing an anti-chaperone activity. This study will contribute to understanding the molecular mechanism of PrP aggregation and neurotoxicity. However, further studies are required to identify and characterize the toxic intermediate in the near future precisely.

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      In this manuscript, the authors compare the behavior of the intracellular ion channel TPC1 in two species of plants. TPC1 channels are cation permeable pseudo tetramers which in plants are expressed in the intracellular vacuole and whose function is not well understood.

      It was previously known that calcium ions are modulators of the function of these channels and the authors identify a cluster of negative charges facing the lumen of the vacuole that can regulate the action of calcium and modulate the voltage dependence of the channels. Interestingly, this cluster is not entirely present in the faba bean (Vicia faba) vfTPC1 channel.

      Through electrophysiological recordings of transfected channels into TPC1-lacking vacuoles, the authors show that the vfTPC1 channels activate at more negative voltages, even in the presence of high concentrations of calcium, leading to cation entrance into the vacuole and increased excitability, as assessed by action potential firing.

      Though the findings are interesting and the methods are of high quality, the authors fail to convey the importance of the problem they are tackling and do not frame their findings in the broad physiology of the plant species they study.

      These findings should be of interest to plant physiologists and channel biophysicists interested in TPC1 channels.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      This manuscript describes the structural differences between the prototypical TPC1 channel from Arabidopsis thaliana and its ortholog in Vicia faba that are responsible for divergent channel sensitivity to luminal Ca2+ and in turn make the Vf vacuoles hyperexcitable. It is speculated that these differences might be responsible for species-specific adaptation of these plant species to their environments. Luminal Ca2+ inhibits both of these TPCs (to a different extent) by slowing down the voltage activation and shifting the voltage dependence towards positive potentials. Previously, authors demonstrated that site 3 residues (E605, D606 and D607) in AtTPC1 sense inhibitory luminal Ca2+ that is allosterically coupled to the voltage sensor.

      The main strength of the current manuscript is that authors cloned the VfTPC1 channel, and then using a combination of mutagenesis and electrophysiology to demonstrate that only two of the above three residues at site 3 (that are acidic in At but neutral in Vf) are primarily responsible for the luminal Ca2+-sensitivity differences observed between these two species (At and Vf). These modifications make Vf vacuoles hyperexcitable relative to At. The experimental data is robust, and the primary conclusions are mostly justified.

      Although the results are fascinating, they are not entirely surprising based on the data presented in a previous publication from the same group. The exact significance of these findings with respect to species-specific plant physiology is not clear, yet this presents a promising and fertile ground for future research.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      In this manuscript by Lu et al., the authors cloned TPC1 from Vicia faba (VfTPC1) and characterized its channel properties by patching the vacuoles isolated from VfRPC1 expressing TPC1-loss-of-function Arabidopsis mutant tpc1-2. They found that VfTPC1 displayed faster kinetics, higher voltage dependence, and less sensitivity to luminal calcium than its Arabidopsis orthologue (AtTPC1). Mutating three luminal residues (E457, E605 and D606) in AtTPC1 to the corresponding ones in VfTPC1 converted the channel into one that resembles VfTPC1: hyperactive and desensitized to luminal Ca2+. By constructing a VfTPC1 model based on the published Ca2+-bound AtTPC1-D454N (fou2) cryo-EM structures, the authors proposed a Ca2+-dependent interaction between the E605/D606 motif and a Ca2+ coordination site at the luminal entrance of the selectivity filter (D269/E637; in VfTPC1, D271/E639). Finally, they showed that vacuoles with VfTPC1 or AtTPC1- triple mutant were hyperexcitable. Overall, this is an interesting study that might have both evolutional and functional implications.

    1. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> The authors sought to identify the impact skin viscoelasticity has on neural signalling of contact forces that are representative of those experienced during normal tactile behaviour. The evidence presented in the analyses indicates there is a clear effect of viscoelasticity on the imposed skin movements from a force-controlled stimulus. Both skin mechanics and evoked afferent firing were affected based on prior stimulation, which has not previously been thoroughly explored. This study outlines that viscoelastic effects have an important impact on encoding in the tactile system, which should be considered in the design and interpretation of future studies. Viscoelasticity was shown to affect the mechanical skin deflections and stresses/strains imposed by previous and current interaction force, and also the resultant neuronal signalling. The result of this was an impaired coding of contact forces based on previous stimulation. The authors may be able to strengthen their findings, by using the existing data to further explore the link between skin mechanics and neural signalling, giving a clearer picture than demonstrating shared variability. This is not a critical addition, but I believe would strengthen the work and make it more generally applicable.

      Strengths:<br /> -Elegant design of the study. Direct measurements have been made from the tactile sensory neurons to give detailed information on touch encoding. Experiments have been well designed and the forces/displacements have been thoroughly controlled and measured to give accurate measurements of global skin mechanics during a set of controlled mechanical stimuli.<br /> -Analytical techniques used. Analysis of fundamental information coding and information representation in the sensory afferents reveals dynamic coding properties to develop putative models of the neural representation of force. This advanced analysis method has been applied to a large dataset to study neural encoding of force, the temporal dynamics of this, and the variability in this.

      Weaknesses:<br /> -Lack of exploration of the variation in neural responses. Although there is a viscoelastic effect that produces variability in the stimulus effects based on prior stimulation, it is a shame that the variability in neural firing and force-induced skin displacements have been presented, and are similarly variable, but there has been no investigation of a link between the two. I believe with these data the authors can go beyond demonstrating shared variability. The force per se is clearly not faithfully represented in the neural signal, being masked by stimulation history, and it is of interest if the underlying resultant contact mechanics are.

      Validity of conclusions:<br /> The authors have succeeded in demonstrating skin viscoelasticity has an impact on skin contact mechanics with a given force and that this impacts the resultant neural coding of force. Their study has been well-designed and the results support their conclusions. The importance and scope of the work is adequately outlined for readers to interpret the results and significance.

      Impact:<br /> This study will have important implications for future studies performing tactile stimulation and evaluating tactile feedback during motor control tasks. In detailed studies of tactile function, it illustrates the necessity to measure skin contact dynamics to properly understand the effects of a force stimulus on the skin and mechanoreceptors.

    2. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      The authors investigate how the viscoelasticity of the fingertip skin can affect the firing of mechanoreceptive afferents and they find a clear effect of recent physical skin state (memory), which is different between afferents. The manuscript is extremely well-written and well-presented. It uses a large dataset of low threshold mechanoreceptive afferents in the fingertip, where it is particularly noteworthy that the SA-2s have been thoroughly analyzed and play an important role here. They point out in the introduction the importance of the non-linear dynamics of the event when an external stimulus contacts the skin, to the point at which this information is picked up by receptors. Although clearly correlated, these are different processes, and it has been very well-explained throughout. I have some comments and ideas that the authors could think about that could further improve their already very interesting paper. Overall, the authors have more than achieved their aims, where their results very much support the conclusions and provoke many further questions. This impact of the previous dynamics of the skin affecting the current state can be explored further in so many ways and may help us to better understand skin aging and the effects of anatomical changes of the skin.

      At the beginning of the Results, it states that FA-2s were not considered as stimuli and did not contain mechanical events with frequency components high enough to reliably excite them. Was this really the case, did the authors test any of the FA-2s from the larger dataset? If FA-2s were not at all activated, this is also relevant information for the brain to signal that it is not a relevant Pacinian stimulus (as they respond to everything). Further, afferent receptive fields that were more distant to the stimulus were included, which likely fired very little, like the FA-2s, so why not consider them even if their contribution was low?

      One question that I wondered throughout was whether you have looked at further past history in stimulation, i.e. not just the preceding stimulus, but 2 or 3 stimuli back? It would be interesting to know if there is any ongoing change that can be related back further. I do not think you would see anything as such here, but it would be interesting to test and/or explore in future work (e.g. especially with sticky, forceful, or sharp indentation touch). However, even here, it could be that certain directions gave more effects.

      Did the authors analyze or take into account the difference between receptive field locations? For example, did afferents more on the sides have lower responses and a lesser effect of history?

      Was there anything different in the firing patterns between the spontaneous and non-spontaneously active SA-2s? For example, did the non-spontaneous show more dynamic responses?

      Were the spontaneously active SA-2 afferents firing all the time or did they have periods of rest - and did this relate to recent stimulation? Were the spontaneously active SA-2s located in a certain part of the finger (e.g. nail) or were they randomly spread throughout the fingertip? Any distribution differences could indicate a more complicated role in skin sensing.

      Did the authors look to see if the spontaneous firing in SA-2s between trials could predict the extent to which the type 1 afferents encode the proceeding stimulus? Basically, does the SA-2 state relate to how the type 1 units fire?

      In the discussion, it is stated that "the viscoelastic memory of the preceding loading would have modulated the pattern of strain changes in the fingertip differently depending on where their receptor organs are situated in the fingertip". Can the authors expand on this or make any predictions about the size of the memory effect and the distance from the point of stimulation?

      In the discussion, it would be good if the authors could briefly comment more on the diversity of the mechanoreceptive afferent firing and why this may be useful to the system.

      Also, the authors could briefly discuss why this memory (or recency) effect occurs - is it useful, does it serve a purpose, or it is just a by-product of our skin structure? There are examples of memory in the other senses where comparisons could be drawn. Is it like stimulus adaptation effects in the other senses (e.g. aftereffects of visual motion)?

      One point that would be nice to add to the discussion is the implications of the work for skin sensing. What would you predict for the time constant of relaxation of fingertip skin, how long could these skin memory effects last? Two main points to address here may be how the hydration of the skin and anatomical skin changes related to aging affect the results. If the skin is less viscoelastic, what would be the implications for the firing of mechanoreceptors?

      How long does it take for the effect to end? Again, this will likely depend on the skin's viscoelasticity. However, could the authors use it in a psychophysical paradigm to predict whether participants would be more or less sensitive to future stimuli? In this way, it would be possible to test whether the direction modifies touch perception.

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    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Guan et al. explored the mechanisms responsible for the development, maintenance, and functional properties of a specific subset of unconventional T cells expressing a Va3.2 T cell receptor that recognizes a peptide, QFL, presented by the class Ib protein Qa-1. Prior studies from this group showed that cells from mice deficient in the ER protease ERAAP elicit responses in wild-type animals enriched for Qa-1-restricted CD8 T cells. They further showed that a significant proportion of these responses were directed against the QFL peptide derived from a conserved protein with incompletely understood functions. Many of these so-called QFL T cells expressed Va3.2-Ja21, were present in the spleen of wild-type mice, and exhibited a memory-like phenotype. Due to their relatively low frequency and weak staining with Qa-1 tetramers, analyzing QFL T cells has been challenging. Therefore, the authors generated dextramers, which permitted them to more rigorously identify these cells. They confirmed some of their previous findings and further showed that Va3.2+ and Va3.2- QFL T cells were present in the intestinal epithelium, where they also express CD8alpha homodimers, a characteristic of most small intestinal intraepithelial lymphocytes (siIELs), and most similar to the so-called natural siIELs that acquire their innate functions in the thymus. The authors show that TAP but not Qa-1 or ERAAP expression are required for the development of these cells, and both Qa-1 and ERAAP are required for the natural siIEL phenotype. Some of these findings were confirmed using a new TCR transgenic mouse expressing the QFL TCR. They further show that retention but not homing of QFL T cells to the intestinal epithelium involves commensal microorganisms, and using in silico approaches, they identify a commensal that contains a peptide similar to QFL that can activate QFL T cells. Finally, they show that this organism, P. pentosaceus, can promote gut retention of QFL T cells when it is introduced into germ-free mice. From these findings, the authors conclude that the microbiota influences the maintenance of Qa-1-restricted T cells.

      Comments:<br /> 1. Overall, the authors employ a number of new reagents and elegant approaches to explore the development, maintenance, and functional properties of QFL T cells.<br /> 2. Generally, conclusions made are well supported by the data presented.<br /> 3. One limitation of the work is that the immunological functions of QFL T cells remain unclear.<br /> 4. The work covers a lot of ground (intestinal IELs, unconventional T cells, innate/virtual memory T cells, Qa-1/HLA-E, etc) that may not be familiar to many readers.<br /> 5. A few questions remain:<br /> a) Regarding the results for TAP knockout animals, since Qa-1 does not appear to be required for QFL T cell development, the absence of these cells in TAP KO mice cannot be easily explained.<br /> b) The Va3.2 T cells display similarities with previously identified innate/virtual memory T cells, some of which require IL-4 production by CD1d-restricted NKT cells for their intrathymic development, which is not fully discussed.<br /> c) Qa-1/peptide complexes may also be recognized by CD94/NKG2 (both inhibitory and activating) receptors on NK cells and subsets of CD8 T cells, which may complicate data interpretation, but is not noted in the text.<br /> d) Are these conclusions relevant to the human homolog of Qa-1, HLA-E?

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:<br /> CD8+ QFL T cells recognize a peptide, FYAEATPML (FL9), presented on Erap1-deficient cells. QFL T cells are present at a high frequency in the spleen of naïve mice. They express an antigen-experienced phenotype, and about 80% express an invariant TCRα chain Vα3.2Jα21.

      Here, Guan and colleagues report that QFL T cells are present not only in the spleen but also in the intestinal epithelium, where they display several phenotypic and functional peculiarities. The establishment of spleen and gut Vα3.2+ QFL T cells is TAP-dependent, and their phenotype is regulated by the presence/absence of Qa-1b and Erap1. Maintenance of gut Vα3.2+ QFL T cells depends on the gut microbiota and is associated with colonization by Pediococcus pentosaceus.

      Strengths:<br /> This article contains in-depth studies of a peculiar and interesting subset of unconventional CD8 T cells, based partly on generating two novel TCR-transgenic models.

      The authors discovered a clear relation between the gut microbiome and the maintenance of gut QFL T cells. One notable observation is that monocolonization of the gut with Pediococcus pentosaceus is sufficient to sustain gut QFL T cells.

      Weaknesses:<br /> In the absence of immunopeptidomic analyses, the presence or absence of the FL9 peptide on various cell types is inferred based on indirect evidence.

      Analyses of the homology between the FL9 and bacterial peptides were limited to two amino acid residues (P4 and P6).

      The potential function of QFL T cells remains elusive.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      The authors investigate the role of commensal microbes and molecules in the antigen presentation pathway in the development and phenotype of CD8 T cells specific for the Qa-1b-restricted peptide FL9 (QFL). The studies track both endogenous QFL-specific T cells and utilize a recently generated TCR transgenic model. The authors confirm that QFL-specific T cells in the spleen and small intestine intraepithelial lymphocyte (IEL) pool show an antigen-experienced phenotype as well as unique phenotypic and innate-like functional traits, especially among CD8+ T cells expressing Va3.2+ TCRs. They find that deficiency in the TAP transporter leads to almost complete loss of QFL-specific T cells but that loss of either Qa1 or the ERAAP aminopeptidase does not impact QFL+ T cell numbers but does cause them to maintain a more conventional, naïve-like phenotype. In germ-free (GF) mice, the QFL-specific T cells are present at similar numbers and with a similar phenotype to SPF animals, but in older animals (>18w) there is a notable loss of IEL QFL-specific cells. This drop can be avoided by neonatal colonization of GF mice with the commensal microbe Pediococcus pentosaceus but not a different commensal, Lactobacillus johnsonii, and the authors show that P. pentosaceus encodes a peptide that weakly stimulates QFL-specific T cells, while the homologous peptide from L. johnsonii does not stimulate such cells.

      This study provides new insights into the way in which the differentiation, phenotype, and function of CD8+ T cells specific for Qa-1b/FL9 is regulated by peptide processing and Qa1 expression, and by interactions with the microbiota. The approaches are well designed, the data compelling, and the interpretation, for the most part, appropriate. There are a few relatively minor concerns.

      1) For most of the report, the authors use a set of phenotypic traits to highlight the unique features of QFL-specific CD8+ T cells - specifically, CD44high, CD8aa+ve, CD8ab-ve. In Supp. Fig. 4, however, completely distinct phenotypic characteristics are presented, indicating that IEL QFL-specific T cells are CD5low, Thy-1low. No explanation is provided in the text about whether this is a previously reported phenotype, whether any elements of this phenotype are shared with splenic QFL T cells, what significance the authors ascribe to this phenotype (and to the fact that Qa1-deficiency leads to a more conventional Thy-1+ve, CD5+ve phenotype), and whether this altered phenotype is also seen in ERAAP-deficient mice. At least some explanation for this abrupt shift in focus and integration with prior published work is needed. On a related note, CD5 expression is measured in splenic QFL-specific CD8+ T cells from GF vs SPF mice (Supp. Fig. 9), to indicate that there is no phenotypic impact in the GF mice - but from Supp. Fig. 4, it would seem more appropriate to report CD5 expression in QFL-specific cells from the IEL, not the spleen.

      2) The authors suggest the finding that QFL-specific cells from ERAAP-deficient mice have a more "conventional" phenotype indicates some form of negative selection of high-affinity clones (this result being somewhat unexpected since ERAAP loss was previously shown to increase the presentation of Qa-1b loaded with FL9, confirmed in this report). It is not clear how this argument aligns with the data presented, however, since the authors convincingly show no significant reduction in the number of QFL-specific cells in ERAAP-knockout mice (Fig. 3a), and their own data (e.g. Fig. 2a) do not suggest that CD44 expression correlates with QFL-multimer staining (as a surrogate for TCR affinity/avidity). Is there some experimental basis for suggesting that ERAAP-deficient lacks a subset of high-affinity QFL-specific cells?

      3) The rationale for designing FL9 mutants, and for using these data to screen the proteomes of various commensal bacteria needs further explanation. The authors propose P4 and P6 of FL9 are likely to be "critical" but do not explain whether they predict these to be TCR or Qa-1b contact sites. Published data (e.g., PMID: 10974028) suggest that multiple residues contribute to Qa-1b binding, so while the authors find that P4A completely lost the ability to stimulate a QFL-specific hybridoma, it is unclear whether this is due to the loss of a TCR- or a Qa-1-contact site (or, possibly, both). This could easily be tested - e.g., by determining whether P4A can act as a competitive inhibitor for FL9-induced stimulation of BEko8Z (and, ideally, other Qa-1b-restricted cells, specific for distinct peptides). Without such information, it is unclear exactly what is being selected in the authors' screening strategy of commensal bacterial proteomes. This, of course, does not lessen the importance of finding the peptide from P. pentosaceus that can (albeit weakly) stimulate QFL-specific cells, and the finding that association with this microbe can sustain IEL QFL cells.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      By identifying a loss of function mutant of IQCH in an infertile patient, Ruan et al. show that IQCH is essential for spermiogenesis by generating a knockout mouse model of IQCH. Similar to infertile patients with a mutant of IQCH, IQCH knockout mice are characterized by a cracked flagellar axoneme and abnormal mitochondrial structure. Mechanistically, IQCH regulates the expression of RNA-binding proteins (especially HNRPAB), which are indispensable for spermatogenesis.

      Although this manuscript contains a potentially interesting piece of work that delineates a mechanism of IQCH that associates with spermatogenesis, this reviewer feels that a number of issues require clarification and re-evaluation for a better understanding of the role of IQCH in spermatogenesis. With the shortage of logic and supporting data, causal relationships are still not clear among IQCH, CaM, and HNRPAB. The most serious point in this manuscript could be that the authors try to generalize their interpretations with a model that is too simplified from limited pieces of their data. The way the data and the logic are presented needs to be largely revised, and several interpretations should be supported by direct evidence.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The manuscript "IQCH regulates spermatogenesis by interacting with CaM to promote RNA-binding proteins' expression" by Ruan et al. identified a homozygous variant affecting the splicing of IQCH in two infertile men from a Chinese family. The authors also generated an IQCH knockout mouse model to confirm the abnormal sperm phenotypes associated with IQCH deficiency. Further molecular biological assays supported the important role and mechanism of IQCH in spermatogenesis. This manuscript is informative for clinical and basic research on male infertility.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      In this study, Ruan et al. investigate the role of the IQCH gene in spermatogenesis, focusing on its interaction with calmodulin and its regulation of RNA-binding proteins. The authors examined sperm from a male infertility patient with an inherited IQCH mutation as well as IQCH CRISPR knockout mice. The authors found that both human and mouse sperm exhibited structural and morphogenetic defects in multiple structures, leading to reduced fertility in ICHQ-knockout male mice. Molecular analyses such as mass spectrometry and immunoprecipitation indicated that RNA-binding proteins are likely targets of IQCH, with the authors focusing on the RNA-binding protein HNRPAB as a critical regulator of testicular mRNAs. The authors used in vitro cell culture models to demonstrate an interaction between IQCH and calmodulin, in addition to showing that this interaction via the IQ motif of IQCH is required for IQCH's function in promoting HNRPAB expression. In sum, the authors concluded that IQCH promotes male fertility by binding to calmodulin and controlling HNRPAB expression to regulate the expression of essential mRNAs for spermatogenesis. These findings provide new insight into molecular mechanisms underlying spermatogenesis and how important factors for sperm morphogenesis and function are regulated.

      The strengths of the study include the use of mouse and human samples, which demonstrate a likely relevance of the mouse model to humans; the use of multiple biochemical techniques to address the molecular mechanisms involved; the development of a new CRISPR mouse model; ample controls; and clearly displayed results. There are some minor weaknesses in that more background details could be provided to the reader regarding the proteins involved; some assays could benefit from more rigorous quantification; some of the mouse testis images and analyses could be improved; and larger sample sizes, especially for the male mouse breeding tests, could be increased. Overall, the claims made by the authors in this manuscript are well-supported by the data provided and there are only minor technical issues that could increase the robustness and rigor of the study.

      1. More background details are needed regarding the proteins involved, in particular IQ proteins and calmodulin. The authors state that IQ proteins are not well-represented in the literature, but do not state how many IQ proteins are encoded in the genome. They also do not provide specifics regarding which calmodulins are involved, since there are at least 5 family members in mice and humans. This information could help provide more granular details about the mechanism to the reader and help place the findings in context.

      2. The mouse fertility tests could be improved with more depth and rigor. There was no data regarding copulatory plug rate; data was unclear regarding how many WT females were used for the male breeding tests and how many litters were generated; the general methodology used for the breeding tests in the Methods section was not very explicitly or clearly described; the sample size of n=3 for the male breeding tests is rather small for that type of assay; and, given that ICHQ appears to be expressed in testicular interstitial cells (Fig. S10) and somewhat in other organs (Fig. S2), another important parameter of male fertility that should be addressed is reproductive hormone levels (e.g., LH, FSH, and testosterone).

      3. The Western blots in Figure 6 should be rigorously quantified from multiple independent experiments so that there is stronger evidence supporting claims based on those assays.

      4. Some of the mouse testis images could be improved. For example, the PNA and PLCz images in Figure S7 are difficult to interpret in that the tubules do not appear to be stage-matched, and since the authors claimed that testicular histology is unaffected in knockout testes, it should be feasible to stage-match control and knockout samples. Also, the anti-ICHQ and CaM immunofluorescence in Figure S10 would benefit from some cell-type-specific co-stains to more rigorously define their expression patterns, and they should also be stage-matched.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      Recent studies in plants and human cell lines argued for a central role of 1,5-InsP8 as the central nutrient messenger in eukaryotic cells, but previous studies concluded that this function is performed by 1-InsP7 in baker's yeast. Chabert et al now performed an elegant set of capillary electrophoresis coupled to mass spectrometry time course experiments to define the cellular concentrations of different inositol pyrophosphosphates (PP-InsPs) in wild-type yeast cells under normal and phosphate (Pi) starvation growth conditions. These experiments, in my opinion, form the center of the present study and clearly highlight that the levels of all major PP-InsPs drop under Pi starvation, with the 1,5-InsP8 isomer showing the most rapid changes.

      The analysis of known mutants in the PP-InsP biosynthetic pathways furthermore demonstrate that loss-of-function of the PPIP5K enzymes Kcs1 and Vip1 result in a loss of 1,5-InsP8 and a hyperaccumulation of 5-InsP7, respectively. In line with this, loss-of-function of known PP-InsP phosphatases Ddp1 and Swi14 result in hyperaccumulation of either 1- or 5-InsP7, as anticipated from their in vitro substrate specificities. These experiments are of high technical quality and add to our understanding of the kinetics of PP-InsP metabolism/catabolism in yeast.

      Next, the authors use changes in subcellular localisation of the central transcription factor Pho4 to assay at which time point after onset of Pi starvation the PHO pathway becomes activated. The early onset of the response, the behavior of the kcs1D mutant and of the ksc1D/vip1D all strongly argue for 1,5-InsP8 as the central nutrient messenger. I find this part of the manuscript well argued, nicely correlating PP-InsP levels, dynamics and the different mutant phenotypes.

      The third part of the manuscript is a structure-function study of the CDK inhibitor Pho81, basically using a reverse genetics approach. This analysis demonstrates at the genetic level that the Pho81 SPX domain is required for activation of the PHO pathway. Next, the authors design point mutations that should block either interaction of Pho81-SPX with 1,5-InsP8 or interaction of Pho81 with the Pho80/Pho85 complex. In my opinion, these data can only provide limited insight into the molecular mechanism, as no complementary in vitro binding assays / in vivo co-IP experiments with the wild-type and mutant forms of Pho81 are presented. This seems to be due to technical limitations in recombinantly expressing and purifying the respective Pho81 protein for in vitro PP-InsP binding and protein - protein interaction assays.

      Taken together, the work by Chabert et al, reinvestigates and clarifies the activation of the yeast PHO pathway by PP-InsP nutrient messengers and their cellular SPX receptors. From this work, a more unified eukaryotic mechanism emerges, in which 1,5-InsP8 represents the central signaling molecule in different species, with conserved SPX receptors sensing this signaling molecule.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The manuscript by Chambert et al. describes a thorough and careful characterization of inositol pyrophosphate isomers and the PHO pathways in different genetic backgrounds in S. cerevisiae. The paper ultimately arrives at a proposed model in which the inositol pyrophosphate 1,5-IP8 signals phosphate abundance to SPX-domain containing proteins. To arrive at their conclusion, the authors rely heavily on CE-MS analysis of inositol pyrophosphates in different yeast strains, and monitoring inositol pyrophosphate depletion over time in response to phosphate starvation. This analysis is complemented by different reporter systems of PHO pathway activation, such as Pho4 translocation and Pho81 expression.

      The experiments are well-designed and the results interpreted with care. With their findings, the authors demonstrate convincingly, that a previous study by O'Shea and co-workers (reference 15 and 16) had been misleading. Lee et al. claimed that the PHO pathway in S. cerevisiae is triggered by an increase in 1-IP7. This claim has been debated heavily in the community, and several groups were not able to reproduce this putative increase of inositol pyrophosphates (references 6, 11, 18). The confusion regarding these discrepancies has been resolved by the current study and is of significant importance to the community.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      Summary. This study sought to clarify the connection between inositol pyrophosphates (IPPs) and their regulation of phosphate homeostasis in the yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae to answer the question of whether any of the IPPs (1-IP7, 5-IP7, and IP8) or only particular IPPs are involved in regulation. IPPs bind to SPX domains in proteins to affect their activity, and there are several key proteins in the PHO pathway that have an SPX domain, including Pho81. The authors use the latest methodology, capillary electrophoresis and mass spectrometry (CE-MS), to examine the cytosolic concentrations of PP-IPs in wild-type and strains carrying mutations in the enzymes that metabolize these compounds in rich medium and during a phosphate starvation time-course for the wild-type.

      Major strengths and weaknesses. The authors have strong premises for performing these experiments: clarifying the regulatory molecule(s) in yeast and providing a unifying mechanism across eukaryotes. They use the latest methodologies and a variety of approaches including genetics, biochemistry, cell biology and protein structure to examine phosphate regulation. Their experiments are rigorous and well controlled, and the story is clearly told. The consideration of physiological levels of IPPs throughout the study was critical to interpretation of the data and a strength of the manuscript. The investigation of the structure of Pho81, its regulation by IPPs, and its interactions with Pho80 provide a vivid model for regulation.

      Appraisal. The authors achieved their goal of determining the mechanistic details for phosphate regulation, revising the prior model with new insights. Additionally, they provided strong support for the idea that IP8 regulates phosphate metabolism across eukaryotes - including animals and plants in addition to fungi.

      Impact. This study is likely to have broad impact because it addresses prior findings that are inconsistent with current understanding, and they provide good reasoning as to how older methods were inadequate.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      The authors of the manuscript cultivated a Planctomycetes strain affiliated with Phycisphaerae. The strain was one of the few Planctomycetes from deep-sea environments and demonstrated several unique characteristics, such as being the only known Phycisphaerae using a budding mode of division, extensive involvement in nitrate assimilation, and being able to release phage particles without cell death. The manuscript is generally well-written. However, a few issues need to be more clearly addressed, especially regarding the identification and characterization of the phage.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      Planctomycetes encompass a group of bacteria with unique biological traits, the compartmentalized cells make them appear to be organisms in between prokaryotes and eukaryotes. However, only a few of the Planctomycetes bacteria are cultured thus far, and this hampers insight into the biological traits of these evolutionarily important organisms.

      This work reports the methodology details of how to isolate the deep-sea bacteria that could be recalcitrant to laboratory cultivation, and further reveals the distinct characteristics of the new species of a deep-sea Planctomycetes bacterium, such as the chronic phage release without breaking the host and promote the host and related bacteria in nitrogen utilization. Therefore, the finding of this work is of importance in extending our knowledge of bacteria.

      Strengths:

      Through the combination of microscopic, physiological, genomics, and molecular biological approaches, this reports the isolation and comprehensive investigation of the first anaerobic representative of the deep-sea Planctomycetes bacterium, in particular in that of the budding division, and release phage without lysis of the cells. Most of the results and conclusions are supported by the experimental evidence.

      Weaknesses:

      1. While EMP glycolysis is predicted to be involved in energy conservation, no experimental evidence indicated any sugar utilization by the bacterium.<br /> 2. "anaerobic representative" is indicated in the Title, the contrary, TCA in energy metabolism is predicted by the bacterium.<br /> 3. The possible mechanisms of the chronic phage release without breaking the host are not discussed.

    1. Reviewer #1 (Public Review):

      This paper describes the development and initial validation of an approach-avoidance task and its relationship to anxiety. The task is a two-armed bandit where one choice is 'safer' - has no probability of punishment, delivered as an aversive sound, but also lower probability of reward - and the other choice involves a reward-punishment conflict. The authors fit a computational model of reinforcement learning to this task and found that self-reported state anxiety during the task was related to a greater likelihood of choosing the safe stimulus when the other (conflict) stimulus had a higher likelihood of punishment. Computationally, this was represented by a smaller value for the ratio of reward to punishment sensitivity in people with higher task-induced anxiety. They replicated this finding, but not another finding that this behavior was related to a measure of psychopathology (experiential avoidance), in a second sample. They also tested test-retest reliability in a sub-sample tested twice, one week apart and found that some aspects of task behavior had acceptable levels of reliability. The introduction makes a strong appeal to back-translation and computational validity. The task design is clever and most methods are solid - it is encouraging to see attempts to validate tasks as they are developed. The lack of replicated effects with psychopathology may mean that this task is better suited to assess state anxiety, or to serve as a foundation for additional task development.

    2. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      Summary:

      The authors develop a computational approach-avoidance-conflict (AAC) task, designed to overcome the limitations of existing offer based AAC tasks. The task incorporated likelihoods of receiving rewards/ punishments that would be learned by the participants to ensure computational validity and estimated model parameters related to reward/punishment and task induced anxiety. Two independent samples of online participants were tested. In both samples participants who experienced greater task induced anxiety avoided choices associated with greater probability of punishment. Computational modelling revealed that this effect was explained by greater individual sensitivities to punishment relative to rewards.

      Strengths:

      Large internet-based samples, with discovery sample (n = 369), pre-registered replication sample (n = 629) and test-retest sub group (n = 57). Extensive compliance measures (e.g. audio checks) seek to improve adherence.

      There is a great need for RL tasks that model threatening outcomes rather than simply loss of reward. The main model parameters show strong effects and the additional indices with task based anxiety are a useful extension. Associations were broadly replicated across samples. Fair to excellent reliability of model parameters is encouraging and badly needed for behavioral tasks of threat sensitivity.

      The task seems to have lower approach bias than some other AAC tasks in the literature.

      Weaknesses:

      The negative reliability of punishment learning rate is concerning as this is an important outcome.

      The Kendall's tau values underlying task induced anxiety and safety reference/ various indices are very weak (all < 0.1), as are the mediation effects (all beta < 0.01). The interaction with P(punishment|conflict) does explain some of this.

      The inclusion of only one level of reward (and punishment) limits the ecological validity of the sensitivity indices.

      Appraisal and impact:

      Overall this is a very strong paper, describing a novel task that could help move the field of RL forward to take account of threat processing more fully. The large sample size with discovery, replication and test-retest gives confidence in the findings. The task has good ecological validity and associations with task-based anxiety and clinical self-report demonstrate clinical relevance. Test-retest of the punishment learning parameter is the only real concern. Overall this task provides an exciting new probe of reward/threat that could be used in mechanistic disease models.

      Additional context:

      The sex differences between the samples are interesting as effects of sex are commonly found in AAC tasks. It would be interesting to look at the main model comparison with sex included as a covariate.

    3. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      This study investigated cognitive mechanisms underlying approach-avoidance behavior using a novel reinforcement learning task and computational modelling. Participants could select a risky "conflict" option (latent, fluctuating probabilities of monetary reward and/or unpleasant sound [punishment]) or a safe option (separate, generally lower probability of reward). Overall, participant choices were skewed towards more rewarded options, but were also repelled by increasing probability of punishment. Individual patterns of behavior were well-captured by a reinforcement learning model that included parameters for reward and punishment sensitivity, and learning rates for reward and punishment. This is a nice replication of existing findings suggesting reward and punishment have opposing effects on behavior through dissociated sensitivity to reward versus punishment.

      Interestingly, avoidance of the conflict option was predicted by self-reported task-induced anxiety. Importantly, when a subset of participants were retested over 1 week later, most behavioral tendencies and model parameters were recapitulated, suggesting the task may capture stable traits relevant to approach-avoidance decision-making.

      The revised paper commendably adds important additional information and analyses to support these claims. The initial concern that not accounting for participant control over punisher intensity confounded interpretation of effects has been largely addressed in follow-up analyses and discussion.

      This study complements and sits within a broad translational literature investigating interactions between reward/punishers and psychological processes in approach-avoidance decisions.

    1. Reviewer #2 (Public Review):

      The study is performed with old tool Spamo (12 year ago), source data from Encode (2010-2012), even peak caller tool version MACS is old ~ 2013. De novo motif search tool is old too (new one STREME is not mentioned). Any composite element search tool published for the recent 12 years are not cited, there are some issues in data analysis in presentation. Almost all references are from about 8-10 year ago (the most recent date is 2019)

      The title is misleading<br /> Instead of<br /> A new pipeline SPICE identifies novel JUN-IKZF1 composite elements<br /> It should be written as<br /> Application of SpaMo tool identifies novel JUN-IKZF1 composite elements<br /> It reflects the pipeline better but honestly shows that the novelty is missed.

      The study was performed on too old data from ENCODE, authors mentioned 343 Encode ChIP-Seq libraries, but authors even did not care even about to set for each library the name of target TF (Figure 1E, Figure S2, Table 2).

    2. Reviewer #3 (Public Review):

      The authors of this study have designed a novel screening pipeline to detect DNA motif spacing preferences between TF partners using publicly available data. They were able to recapitulate previously known composite elements, such as the AP-1/IRF4 composite elements (AICE) and predict many composite elements that are expected to be very useful to the community of researchers interested in dissecting the regulatory logic of mammalian enhancers and promoters. The authors then focus on a novel, SPICE predicted interaction between JUN and IKZF1, and show that under LPS and IL-21 treatment, JUN and IKZF1 in B cells have significant overlap in their genomic localization. Next, to know whether the two TFs physically interact, a co-immunoprecipitation experiment was performed. While JUN immunoprecipitated with an anti-IKZF1 antibody, curiously IKZF1 did not immunoprecipitate with an anti-JUN antibody. Finally, EMSA and luciferase experiments were performed to show that the two TFs bind cooperatively at an IL20 upstream probe.

      Major strengths:<br /> 1. SPICE was able to recapitulate previously known composite elements, such as the AP-1/IRF4 composite elements (AICE).<br /> 2. Under LPS and IL-21 treatment, JUN and IKZF1 in B cells have significant overlap in their genomic localization. This is very good supporting evidence for the efficacy of SPICE in detecting TF partners.

      Major weaknesses:<br /> 1. The authors fail to convincingly show that IKZF1 and Jun physically interact. A quantitative measurement of their interaction strength would have been ideal.<br /> 2. The super-shift experiment to show that the proteins bound to their EMSA probe were indeed IKZF1 and JUN are not very convincing and would benefit from efforts to quantify the shift (Figure 3E). Nuclear extracts from cells with single or double CRISPR knock outs of the two TFs would have been ideal.<br /> 3. There is a second band beneath the more prominent band in the EMSA experiment with recombinant IKZF1 and JUN (Figure 4C). This second band is most probably bound by IKZF1 because it becomes weaker when the IKZF1 site is mutated and is completely absent when only JUN is added. This is completely ignored by the authors. Therefore, experiments with EMSA fail to convincingly show that IKZF1 and Jun bind cooperatively. They could just as well bind independently to the two sites.