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- Dec 2024
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4thgenerationcivilization.substack.com 4thgenerationcivilization.substack.com
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The current system of production is based on mass production, and requires the constant creation of new desires and needs, which need to be created through advertising, and require massive forms of potentially unnecessary material production
for - addendum - add ecological footprint of advertising industry to material waste generated by consumer culture - from Substack article - The Cosmo-Local Plan for our Next Civilization - Michel Bauwens - 2024, Dec 20
addendum - add ecological footprint of advertising industry to material waste generated by consumer culture - The advertising industry itself has a huge ecological footprint as well, in addition to the extra, unneeded material that planned obsolescence creates - references to be added
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- Sep 2023
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- for: symbiocene, ecozoic, ecocivilization, eco-civilization, animal communication, inter-species communication, Azi Raskin, Earth Species Project, umwelt
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- Very interesting talk given by Aza Raskin, founder of:
- https://www.earthspecies.org/
- cofounder of https://www.humanetech.com/
- on two main themes:
- how AI is being used to decode language communication of many different plant and animal species, including inter-fauna, inter-flora and fauna-flora cross communication
- how AI used to study human languages has detected a universal meaning shape between all languages.
- Very interesting talk given by Aza Raskin, founder of:
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- Aug 2023
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docdrop.org docdrop.org
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I can tell you that my experience is that intentional communities are not only not fun, but a disaster. 00:51:53 And one of the reasons they're both not fun and a disaster is that they have a mission statement. They already know where they're going and there's some abstracted map-like idea that everyone thinks that they're cohering to. But then it turns out that everyone actually interpreted that differently and the way they interpreted it yesterday changed. And so that thing becomes 00:52:16 the territory on which you are in polarity with each other and not the thing that you agree about. The thing you fight about most is the mission statement.
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- Nora Bateson
- Nora shares about the many diverse intentional communities she has lived in and found them all dysfunctional.
- The problem is that they have a mission statement, a purpose.
- The perspectival knowing is different for each person.
- How do you nurture unintentional community?
- support unintentional possibility
- top-down instructional is an unecological process
- The question "who can you be when you are with me?" is preferred over "what should you be?"
- Nora Bateson
- for: ecological civilization
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- Jul 2023
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davidkorten.org davidkorten.org
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Labor in a fully func-tioning Ecological Civilization will include three essentialelements.
- for:UBI, universal basic income
- for: UBI, universal basic income, futures
- The physical labor required to maintain life’s essential conditions against the forces of entropy.
- The intellectual labor required to constantly test and advance the individual and collective maps of our ever-evolving territory.
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The spiritual labor required to continuously renew our sense of individual and collective connection to all that is.
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- two of these are articulating the entanglement of the individual and collective.
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for: ecological civilization, climate emergency, climate EMERGEncy inner/outer transformation, eco civilization, rapid whole system change
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- Ecological Civilization: From Emergency to Emergence
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- David Korten
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- May 25, 2021
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docdrop.org docdrop.org
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- for: ecological civilization, degrowth, futures, deep ecology, emptiness, polycrisis, human exceptionalism, planned descent
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- The Great Simplifcation
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE39xfNRRyw
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- Nate hosts this discussion on what constitutes an ecological civilization with guests
- William Rees
- Rex Weyler
- Nora Bateson
- Nate hosts this discussion on what constitutes an ecological civilization with guests
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Reflections Overall,
- an insightful discussion on the polycrisis and
- reflections on what is in store for civilization.
- There is consensus that
- what we are experiencing has been decades in the making and
- the solutions-oriented approach to solving problems has only treated the symptoms and indeed has made things worse.
- There is a strong undercurrent of the emptiness in nature
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Rex
- emphasized the folly of human exceptionalism that has been socially normalized and which
- continues to create the major separation that fuels the polycrisis.
- Not recognizing that we are nature, not recognizing our animal nature
- we look upon nature with an attitude of controlling nature, rather than flowing with her.
- advocated Taoism as a more consistent way to frame nature rather than the reductionist, control methodology that separates us from nature.
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Nora's perspective is the folly of abstraction that generates fixed preconceptions of aspects of nature that we then reify.
- The fixed preconceptions are solidified but they are an oversimplified version of reality,
- and that oversimplification leads to actualizing the cliche"a little knowledge is dangerous" into civilization
- in other words, the continuous manufacture of progress traps.
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William sees our impending crash as not only inevitable, but natural.
- In this, he concurs with Rex's perspective.
- Human beings are simply another species and like them,
- we are susceptible to population explosions when negative feedbacks are removed,
- which can lead to nature self-correcting with mass dieoff when resources are overconsumed.
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If I can pick up on that, Rex is going back to something I said a little bit earlier about unsustainability, or at least unsustainable 00:46:47 behavior being a natural phenomenon, because we are far better than any other species at exploiting our habitats.
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- William Rees
- William Rees
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Well, I'll say there's a danger in that question. It's a good question and it's a question we should be asking, but there's a danger, and that is that we're going to come up with a model for ecological community and then we're going to make it happen. And that right away violates everything that Nora just pointed out. That's absolutely critically important.
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- Rex
- danger is we will build a model
- question to Rex:
- what then is the alternative?
- admit we are animals
- if we overshoot, we have to contract
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