Hookmark https://hookproductivity.com/

Listened to [[Jorge Arango]] in Beck Tench on Tinderbox

https://forum.eastgate.com/t/tinderbox-meetup-video-saturday-june-10-2023-a-discussion-with-jerry-michalski-on-the-brain-and-tinderbox/6720

watched Tinderbox Meetup 2023-12-03 featuring Jorge Arango

Attendees: Mark Bernstein, Michael Becker, Jorge Arango,

Introductions: Rolf Huber (Information Architect)

Featured

• many different definitions of notes (types...)
• Damien Newman scribble drawing as a representation or diagram of the design process (22:42)
• 2x2 grid matrix of evergreen versus transient and mnemonic versus generative.(27:00)

• contacts, recipes, book highlights and marginalia in the mnemonic/evergreen quadrant; to do lists, grocery list, appointments in the mnemonic/transient quadrant; sticky notes, mind maps, project plans, tinderbox in the generative/transient quadrant; knowledge gardens, zettelkasten, pkm systems in the generative/evergreen;

• What does the structure of containers in each of these spaces look like? How simple or complex are they?

• There can be growth from one space into others, (especially from the mnemonic into generative).

• Chuck Wade mentions that email fits into all four of the quadrants.

• Cathy Marshall used "information gardening" in Xerox Park setting... (source?) It may have been mentioned in Arango's interview of Mark Bernstein on The Informed Life.

Arango came to knowledge gardening via Brian Eno essay on architecture and gardening metaphor.

Three Rules of Knowledge Gardening

1. Make short notes; create enough context to help out your future self
2. Connect your notes
3. Nurture your notes; revisit, build, feedback

Q&A

Dave Rogers - we should challenge our notes rather than "nurturing them";

JA: Perhaps we could use AI/GPT to "steel man" our arguments?

Hookmark: https://hookproductivity.com/

Gordon Brander's Noosphere - protocol to define the problem of linking things quickly at internet scale.

https://forum.eastgate.com/t/tinderbox-meetup-sunday-03-dec-23-video-information-gardening-with-information-architect-jorge-arango/7123

FoxTrot Search https://foxtrot-search.com/

Search tool for XML and other meta data for macOS

https://forum.eastgate.com/t/tinderbox-meetup-saturday-june-10-2023-a-discussion-with-jerry-michalski-on-the-brain-and-tinderbox/6685/8

Tinderbox Meetup 2023-06-10 featuring Jerry Michalski and The Brain

https://kumu.io/

Make sense of your messy world. Kumu makes it easy to organize complex data into relationship maps that are beautiful to look at and a pleasure to use.

tagline:

The art of mapping is to create a context in which others can think.

Tool mentioned on [[2022-06-02]] by Jerry Michalski during [[Friends of the Link]] meeting.

https://forum.eastgate.com/t/2024-tinderbox-meetup-calendar/7176

https://vimeo.com/eastgatesystems/

Software and applications for creating visualizations of zettelkasten contents: - Tinderbox (Mac) - Apple's Freeform (app) - Obsidian Canvas - Excalidraw (plugin for Obsidian) - Scrintal - Heptabase - Card Buddy (Mac) - AFFiNE (https://github.com/toeverything/AFFiNE)

https://forum.zettelkasten.de/discussion/2797/an-app-to-represent-a-zettelkasten-or-parts-of-it-visually

https://www.artisanalsoftwarefestival.com/

Winterfest2023

https://forum.eastgate.com/t/tinderbox-meetup-video-saturday-june-10-2023-a-discussion-with-jerry-michalski-on-the-brain-and-tinderbox/6720

Tinderbox Meetup - May 7, 2023: A Discussion with Sönke Ahrens, Author of How to Take Smart Notes. Tinderbox Meetup, 2023. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx1Ax8z_eDY.

Sunday, May 7, 2023, 12:00 noon Eastern Time (US and Canada)<br /> 9 AM Pacific Time<br /> Zoom link for the meetup: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8850659900?pwd=ZE9ROUs1czNiK2FTTStjTUJuVkIydz09 4

Agenda This one is going to be fun! Sönke Ahrens, the author of How to Take Smart Notes 12 will join our meetup on May 7th. Let’s start a thread on what we’d like to review with him. The meetup is not for a couple of weeks. If you have the time, I highly suggest you grab a copy and give it a read.

https://forum.eastgate.com/t/tinderbox-meetup-sunday-may-7-2023-connect-with-sonke-ahrens-live-the-author-of-how-to-take-smart-notes/6636/1

Mastering Tinderbox: Training Videos (Complete List)

Tinderbox Meetup April 23, 2023 Video - On Zettelkasten with Sascha Fast from Zettelkasten.de

Attended this live this morning from about 9:20 - 10:34 am.

Notes archived at https://forum.eastgate.com/uploads/short-url/pnp5ngylsg5XNbRicbnD27SwZLa.zip

Original details and other discussion at https://forum.eastgate.com/t/tinderbox-meetup-sunday-april-23-2023-what-does-it-mean-to-use-tinderbox-as-a-zettelkasten-tool-or-tool-for-what-ever-method-we-individually-might-use/6599/32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4TXkGjKpTo

reply to u/Subject_Industry1633 at https://www.reddit.com/r/Zettelkasten/comments/zwgeas/is_the_zk_method_worth_it_and_how_it_helped_you/ (and further down)

ZK is an excellent tool for literature reviews! It is a relative neologism (with a slightly shifted meaning in English over the past decade with respect to its prior historical use in German) for a specific form of note taking or commonplacing that has generally existed in academia for centuries. Excellent descriptions of it can be found littered around, though not under a specific easily searchable key word or phrase, though perhaps phrases like "historical method" or "wissenschaftlichen arbeitens" may come closest.

Some of the more interesting examples of it being spelled out in academe include:

• Thomas, Keith. “Diary: Working Methods.” London Review of Books, June 10, 2010. https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v32/n11/keith-thomas/diary.
• Webb, Sidney. Methods of Social Study. London; New York: Longmans, Green & Co., 1932. http://archive.org/details/b31357891.
• Eco, Umberto. How to Write a Thesis. Translated by Caterina Mongiat Farina and Geoff Farina. 1977. Reprint, Cambridge, MA, USA: MIT Press, 2015. https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/how-write-thesis.
• Sertillanges, Antonin Gilbert, and Mary Ryan. The Intellectual Life: Its Spirit, Conditions, Methods. First English Edition, Fifth printing. 1921. Reprint, Westminster, MD: The Newman Press, 1960. http://archive.org/details/a.d.sertillangestheintellectuallife. (Particularly ch 7 if I recall correctly)

For academic use, anecdotally I've seen very strong recent use of the general methods most compellingly demonstrated in Obsidian (they've also got a Discord server with an academic-focused channel) though many have profitably used DevonThink and Tinderbox (which has a strong, well-established community of academics around it) as much more established products with dovetails into a variety of other academic tools. Obviously there are several dozens of newer tools for doing this since about 2018, though for a lifetime's work, one might worry about their longevity as products.

http://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/who.html

Inspiration for Tinderbox

Cathy Marshall was an early digital gardener!

https://theinformed.life/2022/10/23/episode-99-mark-bernstein/

Listened to this yesterday (2022-11-17).

https://forum.eastgate.com/

https://forum.eastgate.com/

Looks like this eternal question is addressed in The Tinderbox Way.

https://www.markbernstein.org/Mar20/TheNewZettelkasten.html

https://vimeo.com/753881107

https://forum.eastgate.com/t/a-tinderbox-solution-to-organising-a-zettelkasten/3073

Tinderbox really is a fantastic name for a note taking / personal knowledge management system. Just the idea makes me want to paint flames on the sides of my physical card index. https://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/

syndication link

https://web.archive.org/web/20080412071219/http://eastgate.com/catalog/Briefcase.html

Eastgate systems used to make a "3x5 Card Briefcase" to capture short notes on the go which could later "be scanned or transcribed to Tinderbox."

Tinderbox was one of the first digital tools to be used in a way very similar to zettelkasten of old, particularly by academics, who are a large portion of their power user base.

https://www.becktench.com/blog/2018/11/12/using-zettelkasten-and-tinderbox-to-document-a-literature-review

I was reminded of this via Dan Allosso's mention of it in https://vimeo.com/729407073. Tench's mention of it in the Tinderbox space was what brought him to the idea of zettelkasten in his own work.

Just noticed that Mark Bernstein, the writer of Hypertext Gardens: Delightful Vistas, has page about commonplace books on his site, which he wrote with his note taking cum digital gardening tool Tinderbox.