for - mortality salience - immortality and the quantum field - Federico Faggin

for - mortality salience - consciousness survives the body - ancients were right, contemporary science is inconclusive - Frederico Faggin

for - Federico Faggin (FF) - analytic idealism - consciousness - Deep Humanity

summary - This is an good talk that introduces Federico Faggin's (FF) ideas about consciousness from the perspective of analytic idealism, the idea that consciousness is the most fundamental aspect of reality and that materialism is an epiphenomena of consciousness, not the other way around - Bernado Kastrup's organization, Essentia Foundation invited FF to the Netherlands to give a talking tour of his new - book "Irreducible" - https://www.collectiveinkbooks.com/essentia-books/our-books/irreducible-consciousness-life-computers-human-nature - and they visited the prestigous semiconductor design company ASML' facilities, - https://www.asml.com/en - where this insightful talk was delivered - FF reconciles scientific explanation with the hard problem of consciousness and our ordinary, everyday experience of consciousness - FF's theory offers - a good western, science-based explanatory framework that is consistent with - the experiential and theoretical framework from the east - from - Tibetan Buddhist - Zen Buddhist - Vedic - and other ancient ideas of emptiness<br /> - This framing heals the divide between science and religion that has created a meaning crisis in modernity - and by so doing, also addresses a core issue of the meaning crisis - mortality salience

for - question - what would Federic Faggin think of this? - question - multi-scale communication - question - are Tibetan Rainbow body and knowing time of death examples of multi-scale communications? question - what would Federic Faggin think of this? - He comes from an experiential perspective, not just an intellectual one.

question - what would Federic Faggin think of this? - I don't think Michael Levin provides a satisfactory answer to this and this is related to the meaning crisis modernity finds itself in - when traditional religions no longer suffice, - but there is nothing in modernity that can fill the gap yet, if mortality salience is a big issue - I don't think an intellectual answer can meet the needs of people suffering in the meaning crisis, although it is necessary, it is not sufficient - I think they are after some kind of nonverbal, nondual transformative experience

question - multi-scale communication - This is also a question about multi-scale communication - I've recently used a metaphor to compare - the unitary, monatic experience of consciousness to - an elected government - The trillions of cells "elect" consciousness" as the high level government to oversea them - but we seem to be in the situation of the government being out of touch with the citizens - At one time in our history, was it common to be able for - high level consciousness to communicate directly with - low level cells and subcellular structures? - If so, why has this practice disappeared and - how can we re-establish it?

question - Are Tibetan Rainbow body and knowing time of death examples of multi-scale communications? - In some older spiritual traditions such as found in the East, it seems deep meditative practitioners are able to achieve a degree of communications with parts of their body that is unconventional and surprising to modern researchers - For example, Tibetan meditators report of having the abiity to predict the time of their death by recognizing subtle bodily, interoceptive signals - Rare instances also occur of the Rainbow Body, when great meditators in the Dzogchen tradition whose body at time of death can disappear in a body of light

for - adjacency - squeezing and expanding is everywhere - Michael Levin - John Vervaeke - Indyweb - salience mismatch - symmathesetic fingerprint - multi-meaningverse - lebenswelt

adjacency - between - sqeezing and expanding - Michael Levin - John Vervaeke - Indyweb - lebenswelt - multi-meaningverse - coding / decoding - salience mismatch - symmathesetic fingerprint - adjacency relationship - In the Indyweb epistemology, we have identified an intrinsic limitation of symbolic communication due to - encoding of the transmitter from the transmitter's unique - lebenswelt and - meaningverse and - decoding of the transmitter's message from the receiver's unique - lebenswelt and - meaningverse - The same symbols are referenced to two different lebenswelt / meaningverse's - The semantic (symmathesetic) fingerprints of the transmitter and receivers vocabulary are all different - This can result in misinterpretation, what we term as salience mismatch

for - caterpillar to butterfly - What's transferred? - salience, not fidelity - Michael Levin

for - example - semantic fingerprint bitmap - adjacency - semantic fingerprint bitmap - semantic folding - symmathesetic fingerprint - symmathesetic folding - Indyweb - adjacency - indranet - salience mismatch

example - semantic fingerprint bitmap - 100 x 100 square - 200 dots in the bitmap - sparse coding - function that renders words in the bitmap such that - words that are similar render in two similar bitmaps

adjacency - between - semantic fingerprint - semantic folding - symmathesetic fingerprint - symmathesetic folding - Indyweb - Indranet - adjacency - salience mismatch - adjacency relationship - This word-to-geometry mapping is the key idea and can also be employed within Indyweb to represent the concept of word/idea adjacency unique to the meaningverse of each language user - While Cortical develops dictionaries for specific domains, within Indyweb, we can go even more granular, and develop dictionaries for each indyvidual!

definition - indyvidual dictionary - In Indyweb, an indyvidual's dicitionary can be calculated by employing a word meaning-to-geometry bitmap to determine the adjacencies salient to any word - This can be used to reduce salience mismatch (misunderstanding) that is inherent in any human symbolic communication

for - rapid whole system change - salience of shifting language habits - planetary emergency - salience of shifting language habits - question - shifting language habits

question - shifting language habits - from industrial, goal oriented - to ecological - how? Watch Great Simplification Interview

for - educator - polycrisis - individual action - levers - climate and earth history specialists help with education

educator - earth climate history specialist can help with education about the past to help understand what we face in the present

climate education - low impact due to - ignoring perspectival knowing - and salience landscapes - It may help to look at the problem of education through the lens of Michael Levin's multi-scale competency architecture - https://hyp.is/FFxzRL2nEe6ghzeLcJGM7A/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10167196/ - Applied to cognitive and cultural evolution within the lifetime of a single individual (human) - The salience landscape of an individual can vary depending on their educational and cultural background - There are multiple categories of concepts, each with their own degree of salience: - immediate phenomenological experience - high salience - second hand, linguistically communicated experience - moderate and dependent on source - scientific reported phenomena - moderate, high or low, dependent on source and cultural / educational background - second hand, linguistically communicated experience - low, moderate or high, dependent on source and cultural / educational background - A key observation is that humans are evolved to detect specific environmental cue but miss many others - The rate of cultural evolution is so rapid that our biologically adapted processes cannot adapt quickly enough to the rapid cultural changes, resulting in the experience of "hyperobjects" - https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&user=stopresetgo&exactTagSearch=true&any=+hyperobject - education that is done haphazardly and in an adhoc manner will fail to discriminate between this large variety of salience landscape, with the overall impact of low educational impact

for - adjacency - Buddhist teachings - Four Noble Truths - life and death - mortality salience - terror management technique

adjacency - between - Buddhist teachings - Four Noble Truths - life and death - mortality salience - terror management technique - adjacency relationship - The Four Noble Truths are: - the recognition of inherent suffering - the cause of suffering - understanding the cause of suffering - the cessation of suffering - and are really - a way to deal with mortality salience and therefore - a terror management technique

for - Indyweb - connecting the multimeaningverse - multimeaningverse - lebenswelt - perspectival knowing - quote - Mark Knopfler - Brothers in Arms - private inner world / public outer world - self other gestalt - adjacency - Brothers in Arms - We have just one world but live in different ones - perspectival knowing - self other gestalt - lebenswelt - semantic fingerprint - salience mismatch - Indyweb - Deep Humanity salience landscape - John Vervaeke

quote - Mark Knopfler - Brothers in Arms - (See quote below)

• There's so many different worlds
• So many different suns
• And we have just one world
• But we live in different ones

adjacency - between - Brothers in Arms - We have just one world but live in different ones - - perspectival knowing - self other gestalt - lebenswelt - semantic fingerprint - salience mismatch - Indyweb - John Vervaeke - salience landscape - Deep Humanity - meaningverse - multimeaningverse - adjacency relationship - This verse is so beautiful in summarizing the human condition - We each have our own unique lifeworld, what Edmund Husserl called "Lebenswelt" - https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&user=stopresetgo&exactTagSearch=true&any=lebenswelt - The self / other gestalt has its two poles, each belonging to two complimentary worlds: - The self has a private inner space only accessible to the individual organism - At the same time, the individual self phenomenologically experiences other living organisms, both of the same and different species - Different individual organisms can share a common public space, which for humans is navigated using the instrument of language - Deep Humanity defines the words - "meaningverse" - the individuals world of meaning - "multi-meaningverse" - the shared meaning of many individuals converging their respective individual meaningverses together - The song employs these verses to articulate the complimentary and sometimes contradictory-appearing worlds of the private-inner ad the public-outer - The semantic fingerprint of each word in an individual's vocabulary is unique to that individual as a function of - varying enculturation and social conditioning - https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&user=stopresetgo&exactTagSearch=true&any=semantic+fingerprint - and all these different perspectives - something cognitive scientist John Vervaeke calls "perspectival knowing" - https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&user=stopresetgo&exactTagSearch=true&any=John+Vervaeke - https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&user=stopresetgo&exactTagSearch=true&any=perspectival+knowing - can lead to what we call in Indyweb / Deep Humanity terminology "salience mismatch" (ie. misunderstanding) - derived from John Vervaeke's popularization of the term "salience landscape" - https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?max=100&expanded=true&user=stopresetgo&exactTagSearch=true&any=salience+landscape - War, hatred, crime and violence are all extreme forms of othering which emerge when we fail to understand the nature of the self/other and individual/collective gestalt

for - mortality salience - Deep Humanity - mortality salience - Prometheus - poem - analysis - quote - mortality salience

quote - mortality salience - (see below)

• The lesson is that humans are powerful
  • precisely because they are
    • temporally-bound,
    • finite creatures.
• We are born and we die, no exceptions.
• Byron’s “Prometheus” tells us that there is a lot of power
  • in dying and, particularly,
  • in knowing that we will die.
• To face one’s mortality is “a mighty lesson”,
  • beyond the grasp of any (hypothetical) god.

for - Deep Humanity - mortality salience

• for: meme - honestly can threaten hope

• meme: honesty can threaten hope

  • a reassuring lie is often preferred to na challenging truth
  • denialism is just human nature
    • it's difficult to face the truth when the truth is so unpleasant and triggers intense fear or despair
    • mortality salience could underlay much of this

• for: salience mismatch - comparison - phylogenetic network - bifurcating tree

• salience mismatch: comparison - phylogenetic network - bifurcating tree

  • Dec 11, 2023
    • I need examples of both applied to indyweb / Indranet to see pros and cons
    • I don't yet appreciate the meaning of phylogenetic network
    • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phylogenetic_network
  • Dec 12, 2023
    • Salience mismatch lifting. I think you are applying biomimcry here but the comarison between
      • evolution of living systems and
      • evolution of ideas
    • Two (or more) ideas can interact and give rise to a new idea
    • So at the very least, at least 3 ideas can exist autonomously, each being a source for new ideas.

• for: salience mismatch, question - provide examples - kariotic flow

• question: Can Kylie provide an example of some damaging right side activities and how it could be corrected by including the corresponding left side activities?

• for: kariotic flow

• summary

  • While I appreciate the general idea, the explanation in terms of the 6 parts of the kariotic flow wheel is not clear. I found a strong salience mismatch

  • concrete examples would go a long way to bridge the explanatory gap between the salience landscape of the author and that of the reader

• for: kariotic flow - metacrisis explanation, question - salience

• question: salience

• critique,: inadequate explanation
  • I don't understand the salience of why the right half needs that left half.
  • I think the ideas are too abstract and while years of experience may make the author familiar with our salience, to a new mind looking at the ideas for the first time, there is a salience mismatch because they semantic fingerprints are different
  • a few concrete examples of , how this works to explain the metacrisis would be very helpful
  • there isn't enough time spent illuminating and explaining what each of these 6b abstract ideas are our why they are assigned such strategic importance. Hence, I do not appreciate their salience and the salience mishmash occurs

• for: symbiocene, human exceptionalism
• question
  • how do we invite them in? if they cannot represent themselves, how do we represent them?
    • does anyone know what' it's like to be a bat?
• remind ourselves of our animal nature
  • mortality salience counters human exceptionalism

• Title SOS d'un terrien en detresse
• This is a famous French song that is covered by Dimash Kudaibergen
• The original was written by Daniel Bolavoine, who tragically died in a helicopter crash as he was going to Africa to help with a development project
• Balavoine made it famous on his rock opera performance on the French "Starmania" show. There is another orchestral recording Balavoine did afterwards:
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fms-RDCURSU
  • https://youtu.be/9kZuDhuTkxE
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kZuDhuTkxE
• This video is Dimash performing the famous song for the French people. Dimash sings it with pristien vocal expression, even beyond the original
• The history of how Dimash adapted this song is shown in this youtube video, which shows his famous Chinese reality show performance
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf_UIAOWfAU
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYPAjmWP140
  • https://youtu.be/AUARjexCTlQ
  • https://youtu.be/0vn_kI4-otQ
  • 26 min. of this concert: https://youtu.be/zmEaxCg6_8k
• The opening lyric of the song
  • why do I live, why do I die? is a perfect BEing Journey to discuss mortality salience

• comment
  • A Deep Humanity analog to the word "structure" is the word "pattern"
  • Hence we have the equivalency:
    • platonic form = structure = pattern
  • and the author's prior statement that
    • These mental and subsequently materialized ideas then
    • have the potential to
      • influence the physical world and to
        • feedback into the mental world to produce additional structure and
        • physical material
  • is equivalent to Indyweb / Deep Humanity statement that
    • individual and collective learning are deeply entangled
    • cumulative cultural evolution is mediated through this entanglement
    • that is best represented by the idea of dependent origination
    • individuals articulate ideas and externally present them to other consciousnesses
    • a multi-meaningverse exists whenever social learning occurs and
      • multiple perspectives, multiple meaningverses converge
    • each individual perspective surfaces their own adjacencies of ideas drawn from their own salience landscape
      • which in turn emerge from their own respective unique lebenswelt
  • We might also say that to the degree that internal patterns of the symbolosphere correlate with external patterns of the physiosphere, then
  • that is the degree to which the universal pattern manifests in both nature nature and in human nature
  • since humans (human nature) are an expression of nature (nature nature), we should not expect otherwise

• quote
  • "“Pandemic or not, I will still lie awake each night with the persistent and unpleasant thoughts of my certain death, but I will choose not to smother this existential dread or anxiety. Instead, I want to explore it, befriend it. I have learned that the only way to conquer the darkness is to venture through it,”
• Author
  • Jenna Lasky

• quote
  • "For many, Covid-19 was the rude awakening that death was not a long-distance relationship so much as a close neighbor."
• Author
  • Allison Hope

• due to death of so many young people, covid has shifted mortality salience into center focus for many young people

Quote - normality is our collective, protective madness in which we repress the grim truth of the human condition.

// - This article provides an intersectional study of: - climate change, - collective action research - terror management theory / mortality salience - it explains the beneficial impacts of non-rational relational ontology and recommends the use of ritual practices based on this as a way to promote pro-environmental behavior

//

• key observation
• key insight

// in other words - mortality salience alone is counter-productive - it triggers psychological defense strategies. - it must be accompanied by expressions of gratitude to be effective and transformative

!- similiar to : Mortality Salience - grieving of the loss of a loved one - grieving the future loss of one's own life - Ernest Becker is relevant - Denial of Death, Death Terror !- aligned : Deep Humanity

Socrates confrontation of death without fear is an example of how to live authentically with death, without the need for immortality projects.

Yes, long overdue!

Coming to terms with potential near term extinction of our species, and many others along with it, is a macro-level reflection of the personal and inescapable, existential crisis that all human, and other living beings have to contend with, our own personal, individual mortality. Our personal death can also be interpreted as an extinction event - all appearances are extinguished.

The self-created eco-crisis, with accelerating degradation of nature cannot help but touch a nerve because it is now becoming a daily reminder of our collective vulnerability, Mortality salience of this scale can create enormous amounts of anxiety. We can no longer hide from our mortality when the news is blaring large scale changes every few weeks. It leaves us feeling helpless...just like we are at the time of our own personal death.

In a world that is in denial of death, as pointed out by Ernest Becker in his 1973 Pulitzer-prize winning book of the same title, the signs of a climate system and biosphere in collapse is a frightening reminder of our own death.

Straying from the natural wonderment each human being is born with, we already condition ourselves to live with an existential dread as Becker pointed out:

"Man is literally split in two: he has an awareness of his own splendid uniqueness in that he sticks out of nature with a towering majesty, and yet he goes back into the ground a few feet in order to blindly and dumbly rot and disappear forever."

Beckerian writer Glenn Hughes explores a way to authentically confront this dread, citing Socrates as an example. Three paragraphs from Hughes article point this out, citing Socrates as exemplary:

"Now Becker doesn’t always emphasize this second possibility of authentic faith. One can get the impression from much of his work that any affirmation of enduring meaning is simply a denial of death and the embrace of a lie. But I believe the view expressed in the fifth chapter of The Denial of Death is his more nuanced and genuine position. And I think it will be worthwhile to develop his idea of a courageous breaking away from culturally-supported immortality systems by looking back in history to a character who many people have thought of as an epitome of a self-realized person, someone who neither accepts his culture’s standardized hero-systems, nor fears death: the philosopher Socrates."

"Death is a mystery. Maybe it is annihilation. One simply can’t know otherwise. Socrates is psychologically open to his physical death and possible utter annihilation. But still this does not unnerve him. And if we pursue the question: why not?–we do not have to look far in Plato’s portrait of Socrates for some answers. Plato understood, and captured in his Dialogues, a crucial element in the shaping of Socrates’ character: his willingness to let the fact of death fully penetrate his consciousness. This experience of being fully open to death is so important to Socrates that he makes a point of using it to define his way of life, the life of a philosophos–a “lover of wisdom.” " "So we have come to the crucial point. The Socratic catharsis is a matter of letting death penetrate the self. It is the acceptance of the perishing of everything that will perish. In this acceptance a person imaginatively experiences the death of the body and the possibility of complete annihilation. This is “to ‘taste” death with the lips of your living body [so] that you … know emotionally that you are a creature who will die; “it is the passage into nothing” in which “a corner is turned within one.” And it is this very experience, and no other, that enables a person to act with genuine moral freedom and autonomy, guided by morals and not just attraction and impulses."

https://ernestbecker.org/lecture-6-denial/

From a Stop Reset Go Deep Humanity perspective, social interactions with greater diversity allows multi-meaningverses to interact and the salience landscape from each conversant can interact. Since each life is unique, the diversity of perspectival knowing allows strengths to overlap weaknesses and different perspectives can yield novelty. The diversity of ideas encounter each other like diversity in a gene pool, evolving more offsprings which may randomly have greater fitness to the environment.

Johari's window is a direct consequence of this diversity of perspectives, this converged multi-meaningverse of the Lebenswelt..

Another way to articulate this is to say that there is an enormous range of salience landscapes.

Mortality salience for the masses - operationalizing terror management theory (TMT) and Deep Humanity BEing Journeys that take individuals to explore the depths of their humanity to make sense of the times we are in will play a critical role in contextualizing fear of death triggered by unstable circumstances and ameliorating these fears with the wisdom that comes from a living comprehension of the sacredness of our life and eventual death.

This is a profound observation that shows how our collective species death over deep history shapes the universe. From a first person experience of reality, however, does it makes us feel that the universe is intimate? The universe is a grand dance and we are part of that dance. Ernest Becker's Mortality Salience looms large. How do we feel meaningful in the face of our mortality? How do we alleviate the perennial meaning crisis?

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This did seem like an odd consequence of Blitzer's argument. For example, it seemed irrelevant that Lincoln was the person who delivered the Gettysburg Address, and that he chose to address the situation in the particular way he did, emphasizing unity over further antagonism. Blitzer's explanation is that some of the situation (needing unity over antagonism, I suppose) still exists, but there are a lot of ways to respond to the urgency of war, and historically a call to unity and peace is not necessarily the natural and dominant narrative. We need to grant Lincoln some agency for making those rhetorical choices which impacted the way the war eventually ended (with the Southerners becoming countrymen again rather then citizens of a deposed state).