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buzzmachine.com buzzmachine.com
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But note well, my friend, that all of these people are speaking to you with intelligence, experience, generosity, and civility. You know what’s missing? Two things: First, the sort of nasty comments your own piece decries. And second: You.
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Rolin Moe - Pepperdine (@RMoeJo)
A bit curious that for a reclaim the web event around DoOO that he highlights their Twitter presence rather than their own websites. Potentially for lack of notifications/webmention functionality?
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Chris Mattia - California State University Channel Islands (@cmmattia)
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bookbook.pubpub.org bookbook.pubpub.org
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Heather Staines1 month agoWould you consider metadata to be a form of annotation? Annotation for machines?Remi Kalir1 month agoYes, absolutely, metadata is a form of annotation. The MIT Press EKS volume “Metadata” is included in our Further Readings section. And the relationship between human-machine annotation, as well as automated annotation, is a topic we pick up in Chapter 7. Do you see additional opportunities for us to more explicitly discuss metadata as a form of annotation?
It’s a great meta meta example, but the IndieWeb movement uses microformats to mark up portions of web pages with metadata that gives machines the idea of the semantics of a particular post. Thus, I could reply to this web page with a traditional social media “like” as a means of annotating it on my own website. The microformat “u-like-of” would be added to my page’s metadata that allows the web page I’m replying to to read that like intent and potentially display it—though traditionally they’re shown under the text in question.
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www.kickscondor.com www.kickscondor.com
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So what do we focus on instead, without that ability to tweak or iterate? Well, some of the messier network effects of social media, I’d argue. Sure, leaving a comment may be more “engaging” than picking a color and setting a design, but those things give us a feeling of ownership that we never really feel like we have when they’re all decided for us.
Having a sense of ownership and control of identity on a platform can be an important thing. Even though I use a somewhat modified theme, I have thousands of other options and can change it at any time on my own website.
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blog.b-ark.ca blog.b-ark.ca
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But as I thought more about what I wanted for my blog, and read more about the IndieWeb movement, I realized my idea of what a blog could be was incredibly limited.
IndieWeb quote of the day!
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Well, in the past, because I constrained myself to only writing long posts, my blog would only show activity when I was feeling motivated to write something longer. And that motivation definitely ebbs and flows. But now, if I want to just throw up a note or post a quick picture, I can, as easily as I could post a status update to Facebook. And instead of just posting to my blog and hoping someone sees it, I can make that content visible on social networks like Twitter, which leads to engagements that, again, come back to my blog. The end result is that my blog, the space I’ve created for myself on the web, is much more dynamic and alive. And that’s pretty darn exciting!
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onemanandhisblog.com onemanandhisblog.com
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The first is when you build businesses on platforms your don’t own; and then they change the rules on you.
Here's a great example why Newspapers should embrace an IndieWeb perspective.
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And guess what an effective barrier to infiltration — or wholesale infiltration, at least — can be? Money. Yes, membership models are about more than just revenue:None of the news organisations studied here began with a membership programme, but in the past year each of them has turned to membership as a way of deepening audience engagement in a ‘safer’ space and monetising the loyalty generated by their independent journalism and their civic activism in reference to attacks on democracy and media freedom.
to some extent, though not journalistically related, this is the model that is followed by some of the functionality of micro.blog.
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One of the responses to both forms of platform capture is to create and police your own spaces.
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ohhelloana.blog ohhelloana.blog
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This post has a lot of great things to think about for people either designing social media related websites, or even IndieWeb site designers who might want to take advantage of these things for themselves.
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It just makes sense that news outlets and libraries collaborate. That’s something we at the News Co/Lab have believed from the beginning, and it’s something we’ve seen work very well in our partnerships
Perhaps this is a good incubator for the idea Greg McVerry and I have been contemplating in which these institutions help to provide some of the help and infrastructure for the future of IndieWeb.
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Screenshots are disposable, but highlights are forever.
Highlighting this sentence on the Highly blog (on Medium) ironically using Hypothes.is. I'm syndicating a copy over to my own website because I know that most social services are not long for this world. The only highlights that live forever are the ones you keep on your own website or another location that you own and control.
RIP Highly. Viva IndieWeb!
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www.technologyreview.com www.technologyreview.com
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This piece makes a fascinating point about people and interactions. It's the sort of thing that many in the design and IndieWeb communities should read and think about as they work.
I came to it via an episode of the podcast The Happiness Lab.
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“Social” media: This is social interaction that isn’t really social. While Facebook and others frequently claim to offer connection, and do offer the appearance of it, the fact is a lot of social media is a simulation of real connection.
Perhaps this is one of the things I like most about the older blogosphere and it's more recent renaissance with the IndieWeb idea of Webmentions, a W3C recommendation spec for online interactions? While many of the interactions I get are small nods in the vein of likes, favorites, or reposts, some of them are longer, more visceral interactions.
My favorite just this past week was a piece that I'd worked on for a few days that elicited a short burst of excitement from someone who just a few minutes later wrote a reply that was almost as long as my piece itself.
To me this was completely worth the effort and the work, not because of the many other smaller interactions, but because of the human interaction that resulted. Not to mention that I'm still thinking out a reply still several days later.
This sort of human social interaction also seems to be at the heart of what Manton Reece is doing with micro.blog. By leaving out things like reposts and traditional "likes", he's really creating a human connection network to fix what traditional corporate social media silos have done to us. This past week's episode of Micro Monday underlines this for us.
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And in the meantime, if less human interaction enables us to forget how to cooperate, then we lose our advantage.
It may seem odd, but I think a lot of the success of the IndieWeb movement and community is exactly this: a group of people has come together to work and interact and increase our abilities to cooperate to make something much bigger, more diverse, and more interesting than any of us could have done separately.
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davidyat.es davidyat.es
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Posting updates.
and notifications (or @mentions).
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blog.archive.org blog.archive.org
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Thought leader and tech executive, John Ryan, provided valuable historical context both onstage and in his recent blog. He compared today’s social media platforms to telephone services in 1900. Back then, a Bell Telephone user couldn’t talk to an AT&T customer; businesses had to have multiple phone lines just to converse with their clients. It’s not that different today, Ryan asserts, when Facebook members can’t share their photos with Renren’s 150 million account holders. All of these walled gardens, he said, need a “trusted intermediary” layer to become fully interconnected.
An apt analogy which I've used multiple times in the past.
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jmac.org jmac.org
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And through this mechanism, I get to share a forward-linking “related articles” feature on my older posts, at no extra effort.
This is a feature I haven't seen much of using Webmention, but it's a useful one that comes pretty cheaply.
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www.huffingtonpost.com www.huffingtonpost.com
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we are ending the HuffPost contributor platform
Just another site-death...
Ben Walsh of the LA Times Data Desk has created a simple web interface at www.SaveMy.News that journalists can use to archive their stories to The Internet Archive and WebCite. One can log into the service via Twitter and later download a .csv file with a running list of all their works with links to the archived copies.
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m.signalvnoise.com m.signalvnoise.com
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With the new take, we’re also trying to bring more of a classic SvN style back to the site. Not just big, marque pieces, but lots of smaller observations, quotes, links, and other posts as well.
I wonder if they might also support Webmentions for commenting along with possibly maintaining their own microblog as they move away from Twitter too.
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www.mattmaldre.com www.mattmaldre.com
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Clicking through to the photo, there is no mention of this image appearing on this important announcement. Perhaps the author privately contact the photographer about using his image. Since Ken Doctor is so incredible with his media experience (i’m being serious), I’m fairly certain someone from his team would have contacted the photographer to give him a heads up.
I'm sure I've said it before, but I maintain that if the source of the article and the target both supported the Webmention spec, then when a piece used an image (or really any other type of media, including text) with a link, then the original source (any website, or Flickr in this case) would get a notification and could show—if they chose—the use of that media so that others in the future could see how popular (or not) these types of media are.
Has anyone in the IndieWeb community got examples of this type of attribution showing on media on their own websites? Perhaps Jeremy Keith or Kevin Marks who are photographers and long time Flickr users?
Incidentally I've also mentioned using this notification method in the past as a means of decentralizing the journal publishing industry as part of a peer-review, citation, and preprint server set up. It also could be used as part of a citation workflow in the sense of Maria Popova and Tina Roth Eisenberg's Curator's Code<sup>[1]</sup>set up, which could also benefit greatly now with Webmention support.
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blog.joinmastodon.org blog.joinmastodon.org
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So that’s already a huge advantage over other platforms due the basic design. And in my opinion it’s got advantages over the other extreme, too, a pure peer-to-peer design, where everyone would have to fend for themselves, without the pooled resources.
Definitely something the IndieWeb may have to solve for.
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alexschroeder.ch alexschroeder.ch
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Perhaps we want to write but we feel comfortable with our phones and so we want to write on our phones. It’s like the best camera being the one you have on you. The best writing implement is the one you have on you. These days, it might be your phone.
I often find the quickest and easiest writing implement I've got is the Hypothes.is browser extension.
Click a button and start writing. In the background, I've got a tool that's pulling all the content I've written and posting it quickly to my own website as a micropub post.
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telegraph.p3k.io telegraph.p3k.io
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I can't help wondering if this might be modified to be used to pull in Webmentions from around the web using WordPress's Webmention plugin instead of relying on Telegraph.
It sounds sort of like something I had discussed with David Shanske a while back to bookmark related mentions, but which didn't necessarily have my URL on them.
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css-tricks.com css-tricks.com
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What I dwell on the most regarding syndication is the Twitter stuff. I look back at the analytics on this site at the end of every year and look at where the traffic came from — every year, Twitter is a teeny-weeny itty-bitty slice of the pie. Measuring traffic alone, that’s nowhere near the amount of effort we put into making the stuff we’re tweeting there. I always rationalize it to myself in other ways. I feel like Twitter is one of the major ways I stay updated with the industry and it’s a major source of ideas for articles.
So it sounds like Twitter isn't driving traffic to his website, but it is providing ideas and news. Given this I would syndicate content to Twitter as easily and quickly as possible, use webmentions to deal with the interactions and then just use the Twitter timeline for reading and consuming and nothing else.
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nearthespeedoflight.com nearthespeedoflight.com
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If you want to respond, do so on your own website and tell me.
Often it's the mechanism by which the tell me is the most difficult. Fortunately Webmentions make this a bit easier, particularly if they're moderated so the original author can control what's on their website.
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www.manton.org www.manton.org
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Micro.blog is not an alternative silo: instead, it’s what you build when you believe that the web itself is the great social network.
So true!!!
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cascadiainspired.com cascadiainspired.com
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As someone who writes social media for work, I am deeply rooted in the practice of writing a unique intro when I share a post to Twitter, not directly syndicating it with whatever text I started the article with. For me that feels good enough (not saving that unique share to my site) since including the link means any likes and comments about the article come back to my blog thanks to Bridgy, but maybe someone will convince me otherwise ;)
I'll often share articles to Twitter and don't necessarily do a 1-to-1 match of the syndicated copy on Twitter. Usually I'll excerpt a piece that ends up appearing on Twitter with a link back to the article. I generally presuppose that if they're interested, they'll click through and read otherwise they're bookmarking it or sharing the link with others, so those interactions coming back to the original are always fine with me.
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I haven’t committed to the philosophy of completely owning all the data I post online. I feel like this is something else I can take step by step, getting used to the change as I go.
This can be a daunting task. I often ask people "How do you eat an entire whale?"
The only plausible answer is "One bite at a time", so I suggest you do the same thing with your social media presences and other data. One step at a time.
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matthewlincoln.net matthewlincoln.net
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Comments are enabled via Hypothes.is
This may be the first time I've seen someone explicitly use Hypothes.is as the comment system on their personal website.
I wonder if Matthew actively monitors commentary on his site, and, if so, how he's accomplishing it?
The method I've used in the past as a quick and dirty method is Jon Udell's facet tool https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?wildcard_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fmatthewlincoln.net%2F*&max=100, though it only indicates just a few comments so far.
Use cases like this are another good reason why Hypothes.is ought to support the Webmention spec.
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readwriterespond.com readwriterespond.com
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I think it is one of those topics with a lot of conjecture John. Apologies if there are too many links.
Don't apologize for links. It's the web and links are important. In fact I might think that you could have a few additional links here! I would have seen it anyway, but I was a tad sad not to have seen a link to that massive pullquote/photo you made at the top of the post which would have sent me a webmention to boot. (Of course WordPress doesn't make it easy on this front either, so your best bet would have been an invisible <link> hidden in the text maybe?)
I've been in the habit of person-tagging people in posts to actively send them webmentions, but I also have worried about the extra "visual clutter" and cognitive load of the traditional presentation of links as mentioned by John. As a result, I'm now considering adding some CSS to my site so that these webmention links simply look like regular text. This way the notifications will be triggered, but without adding the seeming "cruft" visually or cognitively. Win-win? Thanks for the inspiration!
In your case here, you've kindly added enough context about what to expect about the included links that the reader can decide for themselves while still making your point. You should sleep easily on this point and continue linking to your heart's content.
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www.niemanlab.org www.niemanlab.org
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One way to meet the many needs that most if not all publishers share would be to collaboratively develop their digital products. Specifically, they should build for interoperability. One publisher’s CMS, another’s content APIs, a third company’s data offering — they might one day all work together to allow all ships to rise and to reclaim advertising and subscription revenue from the platforms. This might allow publishers to refocus on differentiating where it truly matters for the user: in the quality of their content.
Some of this is already a-foot within the IndieWeb community with new protocols like Webmention, Micropub, WebSub, and Microsub.
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tomcritchlow.com tomcritchlow.com
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What am I missing about annotations for the web?
They're not as wide spread certainly, but several people within the IndieWeb have been experimenting with annotations, and Webmention in conjunction with text fragments called fragmentions. In particular, Kartik Prabhu probably has one of the best examples and his site is able to take webmentions to fragments and show them in the margins in his site (much like Medium does).
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david.shanske.com david.shanske.com
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webmentions
I'd recommend defining webmentions along with a link to the spec and W3C recommendation just after linkbacks/pingbacks as their more modern successor.
As some of your potential audience isn't webmention aware, you could/should add some additional definition for those who are unlikely to click through to see the real value they represent.
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bookbook.pubpub.org bookbook.pubpub.org
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However, when groups of readers come together and collectively read and write annotation in response to a shared text, then annotation can - under curated circumstances - spark and sustain conversation.
I can't help but note that within the IndieWeb community, they're using a combination of online chat and wiki tools which to a great extent are a larger ongoing conversation. The conversation continues on a daily (almost hourly) basis and the substantive portions of that conversation are captured within the wiki for future reference. Interestingly, an internal chat bot, known as Loqi, allows one to actively make changes to the wiki from within the chat. In some sense, within this community there could be an analogy to which came first the chicken or the egg, but replacing those with conversation and annotation.
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Personal websites can be so much more than a progression of posts over time, newer posts showing up while everything from the past is neatly tucked on “page 2” and beyond.
This is an interesting idea and too many CMSes are missing this sort of UI baked into them as a core idea. CMSes could do a better job of doing both: the garden AND the stream
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I also want them to be able to easily build something like Tom Critchlow’s wikifolder, a digital collection of links, random thoughts, and other resources. More than anything, I want personal websites to be more personal.
Those in the IndieWeb want this too!! I definitely do.
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jamesg.app jamesg.app
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I like the idea of webmentions because they let me take complete ownership over my data. I do not need to put my faith into a comments system. There is no way that my comments can be edited other than by me. If I want to delete a webmention, I can, at any time, for any reason. While some of these features may be offered by websites, there’s never any guarantee that they will always offer the ability to modify the data I submit.
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skippy.net skippy.net
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my blog posts to be long-lived pieces of my consciousness: something I may want to refer back to, or remember in the future.
a commonplace book!
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adanewmedia.org adanewmedia.org
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Some content “jumped” platforms: eleven posts written for my blog were eventually cross-posted to new and traditional media platforms. It is impossible to track the ways posts became remixed and diffused through sites like Tumblr and Reddit, which are designed specifically for those purposes. But linkbacks from those posts and a general search reveals that it has happened often.
Here's an interesting research space in which having Webmention for the linkbacks would have been useful.
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By the end of the course, my professor encouraged me to purchase my own domain. Her concern was for authorial control that would signal to readers that my content should be treated according to the media and academic logics where citations and attributions are normative. I used a pre-paid credit card to purchase my domain and the website followed me to graduate school.
A great story of the beginning of her Domain of One's Own.
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There is a sense that one can cobble together a common public by overlapping various social media platforms and audiences. Many of my colleagues are doing a fine job of problematizing the intersections of private social media and the university. The larger project from which this essay is drawn is part of that emerging conversation.
I wonder here what role an IndieWeb-based version of academe looks like in which teachers all own their content on their own websites to make a more explicit appeal of work that they've done. Compare this with the concept that what they may be doing on Twitter isn't "work" and which isn't judged as such.
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hackeducation.com hackeducation.com
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shifting it to another company which then gets to control (and even monetize) the conversation.
As I've heard in the Indieweb chat: "Silos gonna silo."
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boffosocko.com boffosocko.com
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If anyone is aware of people or groups working on the potential integration of the IndieWeb movement (webmentions) and web annotation/highlighting, please include them in the comments below–I’d really appreciate it.
The IndieWebCamp.com site lists a small handful of people with Hypothes.is affiliations who had websites, but none of the seem to be active any longer. Perhaps we can track some of them down via twitter?
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lordofthemoon.com lordofthemoon.com
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Although I’ve already got a blog (you’re reading it!), I decided not to mirror my book reviews here. I post normal content so infrequently that anyone who wanted to read the blog but wasn’t interested in book reviews would be inundated with content they didn’t want. In the end, I spun up an additional WordPress instance on my web space (something that my host, Krystal Hosting, makes very easy to do) to keep the reviews completely isolated from everything else.
This seems to be a frequent excuse for people to spin up yet another website rather than attempting to tackle the UI subscription problem.
Social readers would be well advised to think about this problem so people could have a single website with multiple types/kinds of content.
Platforms should better delineate how to allow publishers and readers to more easily extract the posts that they're interested in following.
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hapgood.us hapgood.us
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There’s also the fact that wikis are used to store information that can be edited at a later time by a third party, which is something that blogs cannot do.
Perhaps this is a part of where the definition changes for me to blur the difference between the two modalities (wikis vs. blogs). If a wiki is held as public, yet still personal and any changes to it are done by a fork and edit by a third party with a webmention back to the original, then the barrier can be removed. If one can use a webmention notification from the branch back to the original so that the new knowledge can either be aggregated or not at the first party's discretion. This allows the ideas and potentially growing voice of atomicules of information to grow and spread.
This gives a bit of the best of the both worlds. There can be multiple minds and models working, but the information can still be shared and aggregated over time. This may also expand creativity as there isn't necessarily one canonical source, but many.
Thus a personal wiki and blog combination can use small atoms of information in a wiki-like style to slowly build up a set of facts where a longer blog-like article then becomes a crystallization of a specific voice's synthesis and analysis of those underlying facts.
If the wiki chunks are copyable and sharable then different people may synthesize different ideas. Additionally by reshuffling the various pieces, the author of a particular blog article may rewrite or revise their original thinking with additional smaller wiki-like pieces to come to an alternate or expanded conclusion.
Thinking of a wiki as something that has to be voiceless and communal may be the biggest wall between the two modalities. If there were a larger community of personal wikis that were interlinked then these barriers might be broken down.
Additionally, this is more like what the OER community may be looking for. There are very concrete topics like calculus, as an example, but there can certainly be dozens of approaches to the topic in as many or more voices to suit the needs of particular learners. In fact there are many calculus textbooks geared toward different audiences: biologists, physicists, economists, mathematicians, social sciences, etc. The underlying ideas may all be incredibly similar but could be remixed in different and creative ways.
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larrysanger.org larrysanger.org
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But how do we make it happen?
Larry, I caught your Twitter conversation with Aaron Parecki earlier about IndieWeb. I've added a lot of the open specs he referenced to my own WordPress website with a handful of plugins and would be happy to help you do the same if you like.
If nothing else, it'll give you some direct experience with how the decentralized nature of how these things work. I'm posting my reply to you own my own site and manually syndicating the reply (since you don't yet support webmention, one of the protocols) which will give at least some idea of how it all works.
If you're curious about how you could apply it to your own WordPress site, I've collected some research, articles and experiments specific to my experience here: https://boffosocko.com/research/indieweb/
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commonplace.doubleloop.net commonplace.doubleloop.net
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I have one system for the stream, and one for the garden. It's a bit 'manual til it hurts' at the moment combining the two - but not a big deal. If I had a choice, I'd go for moving the stream to org-mode too. But WordPress is so full featured for now with IndieWeb stuff, it'd take a long time to recreate all that in org-mode (there is Arcology though if only could get the source…)
I too would give my left arm to have a fully featured IndieWeb capable wiki. TiddlyWiki is pretty close to the sort of tool I'd love, but it's missing some of the IndieWeb capabilities and it may be difficult to build them into the system.
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It seems like they've chose a solution for their community that boils down to pushing the problem(s) off onto large corporations that have shown no serious efforts at moderation either?
Sweeping the problem under the rug doesn't seem like a good long term answer. Without aggregating their community's responses, are they really serving their readers? How is the community to know what it looks like? Where is it reflected?
I wonder what a moderated IndieWeb solution for them might look like?
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www.vice.com www.vice.com
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Update, 11:22 Eastern: Weiss has posted a letter of resignation addressed to Times publisher A.G. Sulzberger on her website. In it, she denounces the Times for fostering an atmosphere of stifling conformity and accuses her now-former colleagues of bullying:
Having your own website is a must, particularly when you've just left one of the biggest platforms on the planet and still need to have a platform to reach your audience and the world.
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www.niemanlab.org www.niemanlab.org
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Today’s leading-edge content tools are integrated context, collaboration and insight machines. We’re moving from unidirectional publishing of articles to organizing all our work and closing the feedback loop with our customers. I call this “full-stack publishing”.
This sounds a little bit like what the IndieWeb is building for itself!
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journals.sagepub.com journals.sagepub.com
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A social network that has the users’ interests in mind would look completely different than today’s Twitter and Facebook. It would be designed to help you with your social interactions, quickly and efficiently, not trying to make you spend maximum amount of minutes on the site. Facebook, and increasingly Twitter (as their owners have started demanding profits), are doing the opposite. They . . . steal your time, make you do pointless stuff, filter in advertising in your news feeds, delete pages and users organising protests etc, mine their “big data” to find the best ways to use our weaknesses for pointless click-bait . . .
This is a great quote which highlights the difference in the overall design ideas of social sites like Facebook and Twitter and the design of IndieWeb sites.
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However, the difference between critiquing ASM and CSM may well be that ASM administrators will listen to critical social media scholars to try to improve their systems, while Facebook, Google, and Twitter will likely only listen to major shareholders and advertising networks.
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However, although their approaches are different, one thing ASM have in common is their emphasis on network and code pedagogies: that is, trying to help users become coders and technicians, “sociologists of software,” to draw on Simondon (2010), who are far more able to shape ASM to meet their needs. Thus, developers of ASM do more than just make media systems; they teach others how to use them and modify them. As Matt Lee of GNU social argues,it is vitally important to me that anyone can set up a GNU social server on virtually any web hosting. I also want to make it as easy as possible to set up and install. To that end, I will personally help anyone who wants to get set up.
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www.economist.com www.economist.com
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Previous efforts at decentralisation also foundered because the economics proved wanting, including those of the original internet. Historically, most protocols were developed by researchers and then maintained by non-profit organisations. But when the internet went mainstream and the money poured in, things got more complex. Commercial interests made finding consensus more difficult, and engineers preferred to join fast-growing internet companies building applications. Besides, incentives to adopt new protocols were lacking.
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Another good time to slow people down is when they’re about to post something nasty online. Friction-positive design can help here, too. Civil Comments was an app you could apply to your comments section that forced commenters to rate three other comments before posting their own.
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Trisha Prabhu was fourteen years old when she was named a Google Science Fair Global Finalist for her ReThink plat-form, which, according to research she presented at the event, reduced teen hate-posting by 93 percent! How did she do it? Very simple. Let’s say you’re on a social media platform using the ReThink technology. You’re about to post a hateful mes-sage. ReThink catches it; when you hit “send,” a screen pops up that says:ReThink has detected that this message may be hurtful to others. Are you sure you want to post this message?93 percent of adolescents who saw that intervention didn’t post.
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bryanalexander.org bryanalexander.org
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indieweb movement.
hooray!
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www.eugenewei.com www.eugenewei.com
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This is the classic cold start problem of social. The answer to the traditional chicken-and-egg question is actually answerable: what comes first is a single chicken, and then another chicken, and then another chicken, and so on. The harder version of the question is why the first chicken came and stayed when no other chickens were around, and why the others followed.
This gives me a hypothesis about why the chicken post came first within the IndieWeb.
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www.zylstra.org www.zylstra.org
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The other two are where the open web is severely lacking: The seamless integration into one user interface of both reading and writing, making it very easy to respond to others that way, or add to the river of content.
As I read this I can't help thinking about my friend Aaron Davis (@mrkrndvs) a member of the IndieWeb, whose domain name is appropriately https://readwriterespond.com/
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doubleloop.net doubleloop.net
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I mean, posting constantly online about this cool spectacle thing I’m reading about and don’t understand is probably a good way of being part of the spectacle. (The first rule of Spectacle Club is: you do not talk about Spectacle Club?). But I think IndieWeb, Fediverse, etc, doing it in small, decentralised groupings, you break down the possibility of being in thrall to the spectacle. What’s the biggest blog you know? How do you even know that?
I would push back on this. I have a feeling the effect may seem different because the network is so small. Making specific choices as we scale up may help to mitigate the effect, but eventually we will assuredly see some of the same problems because while the technology will help to mitigate some of the underlying problems with society, culture, and our media, it is not going to cure them.
A case in point is the small network on Micro.blog, which, while generally warm and welcoming, is more monolithic towards the tech space, the Apple space, and has a high proportion of white, cis-gender males. This "founder effect" is likely going to heavily influence this community for a long time. Most times I spend time there, I'm subtly surrounded by the spectacle of Apple.
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joelhooks.com joelhooks.com
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First up for me is adding my reading notes to the site.
Curious to see what this looks like and how it may morph over time.
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trivial.observer trivial.observer
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The barriers to getting this going were hefty, just understanding what all the different parts were and if I needed them was a hell of a task. My brain is fried, and I’m honestly surprised I saw it through, but I’m very happy I did.
Who is the patron saint of IndieWeb? Saint Persistence may be a good one, but the best answer is more likely just asking questions in the IndieWeb chat...
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For instance, if someone replies to a post on Twitter, the reply gets sent back here as a comment. However if I reply here to that comment, it doesn’t get sent back to Twitter.
This is an interesting problem. It also becomes an issue of having the comment reply on the WP site be able to have the Twitter responses to that come back to the original, potentially as a comment with a URL with a fragment.
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There’s a lot of overlap between Micro.blog and IndieWeb (webmentions being the most significant commonality), and IndieWeb isn’t one monolithic thing.
micro.blog is a paid hosting service that can allow one to have an IndieWeb website, while at the same time is open enough that one can have their own separate site and connect with the micro.blog community using it primarily as a reader.
What micro.blog is to you is highly dependent on what tools you're already bringing to the table.
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boffosocko.com boffosocko.com
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Here’s what I wrote last year when I chose “the Indie Web” as one of the “Top Ed-Tech Trends of 2014”:
I want to go back and read this too.
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The Indie Web posits itself as an alternative to the corporate Web, but it is a powerful alternative to much of ed-tech as well, which as this series has once again highlighted, is quite committed to controlling and monetizing students’ and teachers’ connections, content, and data.
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medium.com medium.com
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Some of it is visual. Yes, it is true that all my posts on Twitter and Facebook look something similar to a personal blog: They are collected in reverse-chronological order, on a specific webpage, with direct web addresses to each post. But I have very little control over how it looks like; I can’t personalize it much. My page must follow a uniform look which the designers of the social network decide for me.
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But the scariest outcome of the centralization of information in the age of social networks is something else: It is making us all much less powerful in relation to governments and corporations.
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ammienoot.com ammienoot.com
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However there are going to be lots of scenarios where students are required to use institutional tech. In those cases I still think we need to more willing to delete by default, and not leave the burden on the students. It’s a different mind-set – to purposefully throw away data – but I think it’s becoming a fundamental privacy issue.
A big piece of the DoOO and IndieWeb philosophies is predicate on the student/teacher/other having their own domain name. Thus, even if they're dependent on institutional technology and/or platforms, they can usually easily export their data, move it to another host and/or platform, and then still have all the URLs live on for as long as they like. If they prefer, they can also have control over whether their content is published to the public, or unpublished/password protected so that only they or those they choose have access to it after-the-fact.
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jackjamieson.net jackjamieson.net
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they do not avoid corporatesocial media altogether
better perhaps as:
they do not NECESSARILY avoid corporate social media...
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Rather than avoidingcorporate social media, content from personal Web sites is syndicated to Facebook, Twitter, andother platforms, and then comments, likes, and other responses are retrieved back.
I've not really heard it stated directly or explicitly, but it's also a distinct possibility that the IndieWeb may eventually be enough of a competitive force such that corporate social media needs (or might want) to support the open protocols (microformats, Webmention, et al.) such that one needn't syndicate or require backfeed. Corporate social media may eventually be "open" enough such that some of the current bridging ideas are no longer needed.
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bookbook.pubpub.org bookbook.pubpub.org
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Michael Caulfield, an educator who has written extensively about misinformation, media literacy, and the importance of online “info-environmentalism,”19Michael Caulfield, “Info-Environmentalism: An Introduction,” EDUCAUSEreview (Nov./Dec., 2017): 92-93, https://er.educause.edu/articles/2017/10/info-environmentalism-an-introduction. distilled concern with online annotation to a pressing social question:It’s your [web] browser, and you’re allowed to annotate anything you want with it. But the separate question is what should be encouraged by the design of our technology. People want to turn this into a legal debate, but it’s not. It’s a tools debate, and the main product of a builder of social tools is not the tool itself but the culture that it creates. So what sort of society do you want to create?
great quote here!
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www.insidehighered.com www.insidehighered.com
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The real internet is structured by myriad people with different aesthetics and different needs. Online course design decisions should reflect the instructor’s individuality in the same way that everyone else’s webpages do.
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www.robinsloan.com www.robinsloan.com
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If running your own website is like operating a nuclear reactor, then, yes: let’s give up on that. But what if it’s more like cooking dinner at home? That’s an activity that many people find challenging and/or intimidating, one with all sorts of social and economic ~encumbrances~, but even so, who would argue that it’s inappropriate to hope more people might learn to cook for themselves? Maybe, after everything, we’ve actually ended up in a healthy place. Maybe the great gluey Katamari ball of technology has served us well. In 2020, you can, using nothing but the free app provided by Instagram, publish something very close to a multimedia magazine. Or, sitting at your laptop, you can produce a lightning-fast website all by yourself, every line of code calibrated just so, and host its files at a domain of your choosing. Or! You can do something in between, using a service like WordPress or Squarespace. This is not a bad range of options!
There's something between the lines here that feels like it's closer to what the idea of IndieWeb Generations should really become.
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The code quality of my site is only visible to me, what matters is the functionality. And I want this private post functionality.
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desmondrivet.com desmondrivet.com
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an enthusiastic band of hobbyists with a taste for the retro and a fondness for old-school fan pages.
While this may describe a few people within the group and it could be a stereotypical perception for those old enough to remember the "old" web, I'd have to push back on this perception. While many of us do come from the old web, we realize how much we've given away (including our agency) and we're attempting to create a web renaissance or even a neo-web. There is honestly very little that is very retro about this and in fact it is quite forward thinking.
I suspect that Desmond is simply using this description here to set up his story.
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Silly me, I didn't manage to keep a reference for where I found this article in the first place.
But it is important and has some interesting philosophical questions for the IndieWeb and, for lack of a better framing, future generations of the IndieWeb.
While I have the sort of love and excitement for the web that she talks about, I wonder if others will too?
The other side of me says that one of the great benefits of what the IndieWeb is doing is breaking down all of the larger and complicated pieces of a website down into smaller and simpler component parts. This allows a broader range of people to see and understand them and then potentially remix them into tools that will not only work for them on a day-to-day basis, but to create new and exciting things out of them. I feel like we're getting closer to this sort of utopia, but even as I see the pieces getting simpler, I also see large projects like WordPress becoming even more difficult and complex to navigate. There is a broader divide between the general public and the professional web developer and not as many people like me who know just enough of both to be dangerous, creative, and yet still productive.
I hope we can continue to break things down to make them easier for everyone to not only use, but to create new and inspiring things.
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More ways to combat feed overwhelm Before IndieWebCamp, we had a discussion about Readers in a traditional Nürnberger restaurant. Here also, people came up with some ideas to deal with accruing unread-counts. One idea came from how Aperture deletes posts after 7 days. This actually prevents the overload. It would be nice if you can tell your reader that, for example your Twitter feed, is ephemeral and that the posts can be discarded if you did not read them in time. One other idea that came up was to keep track of the average time between posts of a certain feed. This way a Reader could boost posts when they are from a feed that is not regularly updated. These kind of posts are usually lost in piles of more posts from more frequently updates feeds. Yet a last idea was to tell your reader to leave out posts with certain words for a small period of time. This can come in handy when you haven’t watched the newest episode of Game of Thrones yet, but want to stay connected to your feeds without spoilers.
Some good ideas here to deal with feeds.
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www.kevinmarks.com www.kevinmarks.com
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In indieweb we have been saying ‘build things that you want for yourself’, but building things that you want for your friends or organisation is a useful step between generations.
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www.newyorker.com www.newyorker.com
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At any given moment, a field may be dominated by squabbles, but, in the end, the methodology prevails. Science moves forward, even as we remain stuck in place.
This also sounds like the reason why the Indieweb movement is so interesting and potentially useful.
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getdoingthings.com getdoingthings.com
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I’ve worked on the web professionally for over a decade and I’ve never managed to put together a proper website that I’ve maintained and not just binned every five minutes. Yes, I’ve been making websites for over a decade and never managed to make one for myself.
It's like they say, "At the plumber's house, the pipes always leak."
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stream.jeremycherfas.net stream.jeremycherfas.net
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Maintaining a website that you regard as your own does require maintenance. Like a garden, you may choose to let a few weeds flourish, for the wildlife, and you may also seek to encourage volunteers, for the aesthetics. A garden without wildlife is dull, a garden without aesthetics is pointless.
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www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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The last ETech was held in 2009.
And roughly at about that same time was the beginning of the IndieWeb.
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appreciate your help
I think that a major part of improving the issue of abuse and providing consent is building in notifications so that website owners will at least be aware that their site is being marked up, highlighted, annotated, and commented on in other locations or by other platforms. Then the site owner at least has the knowledge of what's happening and can then be potentially provided with information and tools to allow/disallow such interactions, particularly if they can block individual bad actors, but still support positive additions, thought, and communication. Ideally this blocking wouldn't occur site wide, which many may be tempted to do now as a knee-jerk reaction to recent events, but would be fine grained enough to filter out the worst offenders.
Toward the end of notifications to site owners, it would be great if any annotating activity would trigger trackbacks, pingbacks, or the relatively newer and better webmention protocol of the WW3C out of the http://IndieWebCamp.com movement. Then site owners would at least have notifications about what is happening on their site that might otherwise be invisible to them.
Perhaps there's a way to further implement filters or tools (a la Akismet on platforms like WordPress) that allow site users to mark materials as spam, abusive, or other so that they are then potentially moved from "public" facing to "private" so that the original highlighter can still see their notes, but that the platform isn't allowing the person's own website to act as a platform to give reach to bad actors.
Further some site owners might appreciate graded filters (G, PG, PG-13, R, X) so that users or even parents can filter what they're willing to see. Consider also annotations on narrative forms that might be posted as spoilers--how can these be guarded against? (Possibly with CSS and a spoiler tag?) Options can be built into the platform itself as well as allowing server-side options for truly hard cases.
My coding skills are rustier than I wish they were, but I'm available to help/consult if needed.
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kfitz.info kfitz.info
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I imagine that the first part of this project will focus on how it got to be this way, what got missed or ignored in some of the early warnings about what was happening online and how those warnings were swamped by the hype depicting the Internet as a space of radical democratization.
I love the brewing idea here. We definitely need this.
Some broad initial bibliography from the top of my head:
- The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power by Shoshona Zuboff (Public Affairs)
- Ruined by Design by Mike Monteiro
- Twitter and Tear Gas: The Power and Fragility of Networked Protest by Zeynep Tufekci (Yale)
Larry Sanger (co-founder of Wikipedia)
- How to decentralize social media—a brief sketch
- Proposing a "Declaration of Digital Independence", (WIRED 3/19)
- Version history for "Declaration of Digital Independence" I've seen via personal correspondence, should be publicly available soon:
- Declaration of Digital Independence
- FAQ about the project to decentralize social media
- Social Media Strike!
Some useful history/timelines: https://indieweb.org/timeline https://indieweb.org/history
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www.taniarascia.com www.taniarascia.com
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Honestly, if a real platform existed where I could just communicate with my friends, make new friends, and read blogs by real people with no corporations or ads, I would love to be a part of that. I just don't even know if it's possible anymore. I don't know if any centralized platform can do that in 2020. Fortunately, we have our decentralized websites, and we can connect with each other this way.
This! I want this too and I feel like I'm getting there with IndieWeb-related tools!
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jamesg.blog jamesg.blog
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If you are new to the IndieWeb, let me be clear: you don’t need to build every feature you see on the wiki.
Dit is een valkuil waar ik heel hard in ben gevallen. Ik ontdekte het IndieWeb en ik vond dat ik alles in 1x op mijn site moest zetten. Ik ben geen webdeveloper, ik heb gelimiteerde technische know-how, maar toch probeerde ik het. Om precies dat te ontdekken wat James ontdekt, je hoeft niet alle mogelijkheden op je site te hebben. Veel belangrijker is het besef dat je eigen site jouw huis is op het internet. Ingericht naar jouw smaak en behoeften. De rest is bijzaak.
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tomcritchlow.com tomcritchlow.comBlogpunk1
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If Medium is elevator music, indie blogging is punk.
Alles aan deze vergelijking klopt.
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I would say that the easiest way to describe the IndieWeb is in relation to ownership. In essence, the IndieWeb is all about ownership of your identity, which is done through the ownership of a personal domain, which likely has a website on it.With this domain, you can point it to Medium, Tumble, or your own site. But the constant there is that it'll sit under your domain and folks can come back and see all your latest content, regardless of what platform it's pointing to.
Dit is een fraaie uitleg wat het Indieweb is. Eigenaarschap van je online identiteit. Dat impliceert al dat je er meer controle over wil hebben dan account-toegang op een sociaal netwerk. Een eigen site, een plek op het web. Wát je er mee doet is daarna in je eigen handen. Maar dat eigenaarschap, dat is al een goede start.
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david.shanske.com david.shanske.com
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Überblick: (vor allem) Plugins, die Shanske für seine Site benutzt.
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julian.digital julian.digital
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What we need instead is a spatial meta layer for notes on the OS-level that lives across all apps and workflows. This would allow you to instantly take notes without having to switch context. Even better yet, the notes would automatically resurface whenever you revisit the digital location you left them at.
Dit is een interessante gedachte. Ik heb eerste ideeën hoe dit als protocol kan samenhangen met Webmentions, Micropub en Microformats.
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jeroensangers.com jeroensangers.com
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Today marks the start of a new era, since I now officially joined the IndieWeb movement and migrated my 23-year old personal blog to micro.blog.
Welkom op het indieweb Jeroen! En dank voor het volgen van mijn avonturen met Hypothesis. Ik heb vanavond een update gedaan in mijn flow. Nu heeft elke annotatie op mijn blog een directe link naar het artikel én de annotatie zelf.
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diggingthedigital.com diggingthedigital.com
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In een korte serie blogposts wil ik je uitleggen hoe je met WordPress aan de slag kunt om je eigen blog meer mogelijkheden te geven om de eigen controle te houden. Dat laatste is één van de bouwstenen van de Indieweb gedachte
Test om te zien of de integromat functie naar behoren werkt
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doubleloop.net doubleloop.net
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Doug has a preference for the Fediverse as an approach to an open web, and says the political philosophy of the IndieWeb is a type of right-libertarianism, because it lacks social equality, and without that it is just a focus on individual freedom.
Een vreemd uitgangspunt. Volgens mij is het indieweb juist gericht op sociale gelijkheid.
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Eating your own dogfood
Een van de uitgangspunten van het indieweb
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johnjohnston.info johnjohnston.info
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I’ve found the IndieWeb to be tricky, bits don’t work for me, or need twiddling, or more time and knowledge than I have. I see it as an add on from the activity of blogging, which I’ll do anyway. It is not in opposition to mastodon or federation, but for me is just a few more cogs and pipes. If the IndieWeb breaks or goes away my blog will still be there. If twitter explodes the replies to my blog posts will still be in my database.
I really like this way of putting the whole IndieWeb venture. My site is called 'Read Write Respond' because first and foremost, as a blogger, that is what I do. Maybe there is privilege involved in that as Doug touches upon in his Microcast. However, for now I will plough on.
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boffosocko.com boffosocko.com
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Over the past several years I’ve written a broad number of pieces about the IndieWeb. I find that many people are now actively searching for, reading, and implementing various versions of what I’ve done, particularly on the WordPress Platform.
A reminder to review Chris Aldrich's collection of articles, tutorials, presentations and podcasts. I've modeled my Wordpress site after his to better appreciate how I can use Indieweb technologies.
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boffosocko.com boffosocko.com
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I have two different blogs: my personal blog on my main domain and my work blog on my subdomain.
Sounds like a multi-site IndieWeb case here.
Also posting this as a test of embedding and annotating sites via iframe.
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- Apr 2019
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boffosocko.com boffosocko.com
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I really like the Kinds plugin, but should look into some of these possibilities.
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Oh IndieWebCamp. You come with a few things you want to for your own website, then you do some completely other things, and after that you leave with an even longer list of things to do for your own website.
The story of us all...
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wolfweb.unr.edu wolfweb.unr.edu
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there is little power, there is correspondingly little sense of positive responsibility.
Can this be a response to trolls? When you have power of your domain.
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educative process is carried on in a predominantly democratic or non-democratic way becomes, therefore, a question of transcendent importance not only for education itself but for its final effect upon all the interests and activities of a society
If we want a democratic society we need a democratic educational system. This requires in digital literacy folks to have their own domain.
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each individual has something to contribute, whose value can be assessed only as enters into the final pooled intelligence
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Even where democracies now exist, men's minds and feelings are still permeated with ideas about leadership imposed from above, ideas that developed in the long early history of mankind.
Make a parallel to the rise of commercial silos.
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- Sep 2018
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indieweb.org indieweb.orgIndieWeb1
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- Jul 2018
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alistapart.com alistapart.com
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Marginalia#section5 With Webmention support, one could architect a site to allow inline marginalia and highlighting similar to Medium.com’s relatively well-known functionality. With the clever use of URL fragments, which are well supported in major browsers, there are already examples of people who use Webmentions to display word-, sentence-, or paragraph-level marginalia on their sites. After all, aren’t inline annotations just a more targeted version of comments?
Absolutely. This is what I'd love to have with Hypothesis.
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As mentioned earlier, Webmentions allow notifications between web addresses. If both sites are set up to send and receive them, the system works like this: Alice has a website where she writes an article about her rocket engine hobby. Bob has his own website where he writes a reply to Alice’s article. Within his reply, Bob includes the permalink URL of Alice’s article. When Bob publishes his reply, his publishing software automatically notifies Alice’s server that her post has been linked to by the URL of Bob’s reply. Alice’s publishing software verifies that Bob’s post actually contains a link to her post and then (optionally) includes information about Bob’s post on her site; for example, displaying it as a comment. A Webmention is simply an @mention that works from one website to another!
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Webmention is a (now) standardized protocol that enables one website address (URL) to notify another website address that the former contains a reference to the latter. It also allows the latter to verify the authenticity of the reference and include its own corresponding reference in a reciprocal way.
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www.economist.com www.economist.com
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The centralisation of the internet and the growing importance of data has given rise to what Frank Pasquale of the University of Maryland, in a recent paper published in American Affairs, calls a “Jeffersonian/Hamiltonian divide” among critics of big tech. One group stands in the tradition of Thomas Jefferson, one of America’s founding fathers, who favoured smaller government and less concentration in business. Its members want to rein in the tech titans through tougher antitrust policies, including break-ups. The other group follows the thinking of Alexander Hamilton, another founding father, who supported strong central institutions, both in politics and in the economy. Its adherents argue that to reap the benefits of artificial intelligence (AI) and distribute them fairly, online giants should be treated as utilities.
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fogknife.com fogknife.com
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I really need to hash out my domain situation! IndieWeb encourages its memership to claim a single domain and use it as their personal stamp for everything they do on the internet. I, though, have two domains: my long-held personal catch-all domain of jmac.org, and fogknife.com, which I use exclusively for blogging. My use of both predates my involvement with IndieWeb.
Don't fret too much over having multiple websites. As you continue on the answer to what you want to do with them will eventually emerge more organically than if you force it to. For some thoughts and inspiration, check out https://indieweb.org/multi-site_indieweb
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A fullydeveloped version of the proposed intervention(new or modified)
A turnkey social reader turned LMS that can be applied to any #IndieWeb blogging environment (license up to vendors and partners) as well as openly licensed learning materials and assessment tools.
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boffosocko.com boffosocko.com
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In broadest terms I would define being part of the IndieWeb as owning your own domain name and hosting some sort of website as a means of identifying yourself and attempting to communicate with others on the internet.
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life experiences that help them to define themselves
It is this that scares me. We are no longer just having students define themselves.. Well actually I believe we project many MEs and have many other MEs projected back onto us.
Yet they are no longer in control of how their life experiences get shared. A social algorithm determines what events they see from friends and what friends see of them.
Notification provide gratification while reinforcing specific funds of identity.
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historically accumulated and culturallydeveloped bod[ies] of knowledge and skills essential for household or individual functioning andwell-being
What is the meme version of of historically accumulated. Clearly memes are deeply influenced by funds of knowledge as evident by Black Twitter yet they are more temporal and draw heavily on pop culture. At the same time having a deep meme game also signifies status in digital culture.
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define themselves and tohelp them grow as human beings
I believe in a digital world we need to ensure students control the spaces where they are defining themselves.
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ositive and negative experienceshave a key role to play in creating links between the classroom and home and in fostering thedevelopment of new identities
This what scares me. We have added silos as an intermediary in the positive and negative experiences students have.
An algorithm gets to decide which friends a friend shares communication. A hidden box controls what experience gets reinforced in youth culture.
Think about that. We have handed off the creation and curation of identities of children to corporations.
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Digital writing has come a long way in the past decade
Often the wrong way. We went from an open web where everyone controlled where they published to a homogenized world of corporate silos where alogrithims influence what we read and thus what we write.
Web 2.0 became the corporate web.
True critical digital literacies must begin by taking back control of your identity.
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Here is the thing the next decade of digital writing would be best served if it looked like the digital writing of yesterday.
Let's stick to html on domains students own.
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www.boffosocko.com www.boffosocko.com
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Just found this pencast from @chrisaldrich it is great.
Going to use this as a guide.
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indieweb.org indieweb.org
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<div class="h-entry"> <a class="p-author h-card" href="http://mysite.example.org"> <img alt="" src="http://mysite.example.org/icon.jpg"/> Supercool Indiewebauthor</a>: RSVP <span class="p-rsvp">yes</span> to <a href="http://example.com/event" class="u-in-reply-to">IndieWeb Example Event</a> </div>
is the
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- Jan 2018
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paul.kinlan.me paul.kinlan.me
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small niche sites that only a handful of users might use can also be part of the same ecosystem.
Perhaps this is something that David Shanske could leverage for adding IndieWeb functionality within WordPress?
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benjamingrobertson.com benjamingrobertson.com
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I want a human curated web experience. I don’t want my experience curated by mysterious algorithms.
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www.oreilly.com www.oreilly.com
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Remember when the internet was going to usher in an age of peace and understanding because humans would be able to communicate with each other? It didn't happen.
What didn't happen? The age of peace and understanding, or the ability for humans to communicate with each other freely?
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- Jun 2017
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hybridpedagogy.org hybridpedagogy.org
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But the ability to work on indie projects is not available to all. The time and resources required to work indie are a sign of privilege, as is encouraging (and certainly expecting) all to work indie. As Anne Pasek writes, “all materials and practices … have a cost and thus a tollgate for participation.” (And there are many, often intersecting, forms of privilege that contribute to that “toll” ― race, gender, orientation, cultural background, economic background, able-bodiedness, etc.) So while indie work is great, and I’ve done a lot of it myself, we need to be careful about the ways in which we encourage and characterize indie work, noting in particular what it costs and who may be left behind or left out.
This is all important and certainly true.
However, as someone who knows he's certainly privileged, I view my definition of indie as something that is also open for others to come behind me and use for free or have the ability to reuse and remix in a way that corporate interests or non-indie work wouldn't. In a large sense, to me this means that while I may be privileged (whether that be socio-economically or even the time-encumbered), I'm helping to lower the cost and the burden for the less privileged who may come behind me to be able to do more, go further, or go faster.
In some sense too, as described, indie has such a nebulous definition. Often when I see it in a technology related space I really read it as "Open Sourced".
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daringfireball.net daringfireball.net
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Content that isn’t indexable by search engines is not part of the open web.
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- Apr 2016
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medium.com medium.com
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APIs are building blocks of software by definitionCompared with SaaS, by nature, they are platforms that allow development on top of them.It brings back the nature of “building block” that open source has and SaaS lost.API’s businesses focus on solving “smaller” problems but hard to crackFor that reason, there are higher chances that customers will trust an API provider for their core infrastructure.“If this is the only thing those guys do, there’s high chances they will do it better than myself”.
This idea of APIs blending the best (business models) of open source and SaaS is intriguing.
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People want to own their data and their namespace but they don’t want to run servers to do it. What’s the solution? Separate the elements. Treat your personal server as a BDS (Big Dumb Server), there to answer API calls and file requests. Move the admin interfaces up towards the client, and maintain them centrally the way apps are maintained. Eventually, move the presentation layer towards the client too, allowing readers power over how they consume the data on your server.
- Database:
- provided by host
- general purpose
- accessible by http or https API
- Database administration:
- Native app or Web interface making privileged API calls.
- GUI file browser for web server folders and files.
- Presentation Layer
- Pull pages (or other data) from multiple databases.
- Customizable: the data you want, in the way you want to display it or otherwise use it.
- Database:
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- Jan 2016
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dangillmor.com dangillmor.com
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Simple: We’re in danger of losing what’s made the Internet the most important medium in history – a decentralized platform where the people at the edges of the networks – that would be you and me – don’t need permission to communicate, create and innovate.
Right on!
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indiewebcamp.com indiewebcamp.com
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Your articles and status messages can go to all services, not just one
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When you post something on the web, it should belong to you, not a corporation.
Ownership of data/content. My annotations are mine.
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- Dec 2015
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twitter.com twitter.com
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Hypothesis might make a fine alternative to Twitter.
- Is anyone using hypothesis in this way yet?
- What would be a good tag to distinguish "tweet" Notes?<br> (I guess it would be cute to use "tweet" as the tag.)
- When there's not a specific webpage involved, what would be the best URLs on which to attach such a Note?<br> (I suppose any page of your own on a social media site or blog would do. I also see that we can annotate pages on local servers.)
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twitter.com twitter.com
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#fedwiki #hypothesis #known #withknown #wikity #indieweb #delicious just twitter, #ohmy @judell @erinjo @joshu @holden @withknown @benward
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- Nov 2015
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adamcroom.com adamcroom.com
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Seeking easier ways for people to publish on the Web and control their own data. http://sandstorm.io/ https://www.kuberdock.com/
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bavatuesdays.com bavatuesdays.com
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Reclaim Hosting, Known, and Brigham Young University are working on an interface for student domains that will provide easy cross-posting to several social media sites, and easy viewing of those posts among peers in groups. The students will still be able to install whatever other server software they need.
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- Nov 2014
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stream.withknown.com stream.withknown.com
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What social networks does this work with? Right now, if you have a website on Known, you can use Bridgy to collect social interactions from Facebook and Twitter.
This is partly wrong. I know at least that @bnvk uses Bridgy together with Social Igniter.
Therefore the paragraph could also mention the #IndieWeb itself.
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