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  1. Nov 2020
    1. And it’s a big problem. And as far as Japan is concerned, I want to help all of our allies, but we are losing billions and billions of dollars. We cannot be the policemen of the world. We cannot protect countries all over the world… HOLT: We have just… TRUMP: … where they’re not paying us what we need.

      Reiterating his focus on money and the economy even when in relation to foreign threats and dangers. He wants to work with other countries, but not at the detriment of our country. We can't be responsible for everyone else without getting something in return. Appeals to people who think we're being taken advantage of which could relate personally to real life if someone has been taken advantage of. It's a very basic thing to understand in a complicated subject that people might not have a lot of knowledge about. A subtl analogy/metaphor

    2. But what did we learn with DNC? We learned that Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of by your people, by Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Look what happened to her. But Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of. That’s what we learned.

      Defending someone in the other party to make his opponent look bad and make himself look good because it implies he's willing to defend someone even if they aren't on his side just because it's the right thing to do.

    3. Too many young African-American and Latino men ended up in jail for nonviolent offenses. And it’s just a fact that if you’re a young African-American man and you do the same thing as a young white man, you are more likely to be arrested, charged, convicted, and incarcerated.

      Appealing to the minority audience by admitting there is a disparity in treatment which has not always been discussed.

    4. Now, I believe in community policing. And, in fact, violent crime is one-half of what it was in 1991. Property crime is down 40 percent. We just don’t want to see it creep back up. We’ve had 25 years of very good cooperation.

      Logos - statistics to prove that progress has been made and the situation isn't as dire as it's being made out to be

    5. And look at her website. You know what? It’s no difference than this. She’s telling us how to fight ISIS. Just go to her website. She tells you how to fight ISIS on her website. I don’t think General Douglas MacArthur would like that too much. HOLT: The next segment, we’re continuing… CLINTON: Well, at least I have a plan to fight ISIS. HOLT: … achieving prosperity… TRUMP: No, no, you’re telling the enemy everything you want to do.

      Pivot to something that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand in an attempt to bring up something that takes away her credibility and authority. Saying that having information on her plan to fight ISIS is giving them all the information they need to get around it.

    1. Well, I think it’s terrible. If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby. Now, you can say that that’s OK and Hillary can say that that’s OK. But it’s not OK with me, because based on what she’s saying, and based on where she’s going, and where she’s been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month on the final day. And that’s not acceptable.

      this also appeal to emotional because he talking about take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby and this relate to all the mothers and the baby he show how he really worry about this and he trying to appeal to the emotions the audience by portraying abortion in the most negative way possible.

    2. You know, back in 1987, he took out a $100,000 ad in the New York Times, during the time when President Reagan was president, and basically said exactly what he just said now, that we were the laughingstock of the world. He was criticizing President Reagan. This is the way Donald thinks about himself, puts himself into, you know, the middle and says, “You know, I alone can fix it,” as he said on the convention stage.

      While this appeals to many, it’s a tactic that implores you to use your head to make logical decisions. In order to truly persuade, influence, and engage an audience you need to win both heads and hearts.

    3. ell, first of all, it’s great to be with you, and thank you, everybody. The Supreme Court: It’s what it’s all about. Our country is so, so—it’s just so imperative that we have the right justices.

      Uses pathos as well as some hyperbole here, he is telling the audience that it's great to be with you, and thank you, everybody this helps to show his warm and comforting presence.

    4. So I just left some high representatives of India. They’re growing at 8 percent. China is growing at 7 percent. And that for them is a catastrophically low number. We are growing—our last report came out—and it’s right around the 1 percent level. And I think it’s going down.

      This is an appeal to ignorance because there's is no evidence has proved about the development will successful and he did not talk about how Idea, China and the United Sates are growing.

    5. If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby. Now, you can say that that’s OK and Hillary can say that that’s OK. But it’s not OK with me, because based on what she’s saying, and based on where she’s going, and where she’s been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month on the final day. And that’s not acceptable.

      This is Straw Man, Trump attributes to Hillary Clinton and the moderator a position that they do not hold (Being ok with ripping a baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby). He also distorts a medical procedure by giving it a graphic moral dimension and hence forcing the situation hat any person with empathy or morality can't but agree with him this also appeal to emotion.

    1. My daughter’s entertainment philosophy — not incorrect — was, and still is, that TV is primarily made by old people for old people and thus is irrelevant to her. YouTube, on the other hand, at least the part of it she sees, is made by teenagers for teenagers. And not just that, it’s made by teenagers talking to themselves in private, broadcasting their boredom-laced secret diaries, promising (and at moments, delivering) remote intimacy. This made watching those videos low-key compelling, good background for texting your friends or doing homework (if you were not inclined just to cue up a four-hour video of a person studying, which is now a thing). My daughter also found Antonio “relatable,” a huge buzzword among teenage YouTubers these days.

      Her daughter’s philosophy sounds a lot like Web 1.0 vs Web 2.0. Web 1.0 is how the web was before social media: very resource based. However Web 2.0 is how the web is now: very participation based, easily useful, and with an emphasis on user-generated content. Her daughter speaks of TV and “old people” in reference to the Web 1.0 age whereas YouTube is very much a part of the Web 2.0 age, where users can not only engage with other users’ content, but can also produce their own. (Paul Graham – Web 2.0, 2005)

      Reference:

      Graham, P. (2005, November). Web 2.0. http://www.paulgraham.com/web20.html

    2. The Dolan twins, who are now 19 and who after five years of filming every aspect of their lives, including wisdom-teeth extractions, just announced that they were going to stop uploading weekly for the sake of their mental health, dropped out before her.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2LkO0IsR5A

      The Dolan Twins dropping out of high school and announcing they would be taking a break from YouTube is due to burnout. Burnout is a state of mental, emotional, and physical exhaustion that results from immense amounts of pressure and stress. Burnout tends to be common in career fields that are exceedingly difficult with long hours. While YouTubers are not surgeons that are on their feet all day, their professions are still extremely demanding in other ways. YouTubers tend to be their own bosses, so they are responsible for all aspects of the content they produce. This can be extremely exhausting and pressure inducing as they must continuously create new content that their viewers will like. Also, many of the YouTubers who make it have established a spot on the platform by expressing a positive and upbeat version of themselves, and therefore believe they will not be successful without this persona. This up-keeping of a persona can feel like a performance that they must always turn “on” which can contribute to burnout. Additionally, most YouTubers start their careers as fun outlets to express themselves, but once they gain relevancy their content creation starts to feel more like a chore. This change in nature makes it harder for YouTubers to create good content while simultaneously taking care of their own mental health. Unfortunately, YouTube does not handle creator burnout very well, and creators tend to feel like they are unable to complain about a platform that has given them so much. This is one aspect of the Web 2.0 that needs improvement. (Patricia Hernandez – YouTube is Failing its Creators, 2018)

      References:

      TheDolanTwins. (2019, October 08). It's time to move on. Youtube.

      Hernandez, P. (2018, September 21). Youtube is failing its creators. The verge. https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/21/17879652/youtube-creator-youtuber-burnout-problem

    3. “Every morning I go in the bathroom at school, and everybody is putting on makeup, and everybody is changing out of the clothes they wore for their mom,” she told me. “Like literally every morning. And everyone is saying, ‘This is the ugliest I’ve ever been,’ or, ‘I look like I’m in a punk-rock band,’ or, ‘I look like I’m an e-boy.’ It’s just like cognitive dissonance.”

      Cognitive dissonance is a concept developed by psychologist, Leon Festinger, that says that humans strive for internal psychological consistency in order to function. This means that individuals tend to aim for attitudes and behaviors that do not conflict with their morals or beliefs. Festinger says that when individuals engage in behaviors or attitudes that do conflict and cognitive dissonance occurs, there must be a change that eliminates the dissonance to return to internal consistency (Leon Festinger – A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance, 1957). The students engaged in cognitive dissonance because they believe that their identities don’t conform to the ones their parents’ see for them. By wearing the outfit for them they are inconsistent with their internal psychology, and therefore change once they get to school to eliminate this dissonance.

      Reference:

      Festinger, L. (1957). A Theory of cognitive dissonance. Stanford, CA: Stanford University Press.

    4. But being a depressed kid alone in your room is not what it used to be. It’s one thing to be depressed and listen to the Smiths in your oversize Champion sweatshirt and write in your journal and then hide that journal away and come out and pretend you have your act together. It’s another thing to be a depressed kid alone in your room in your oversize Champion sweatshirt and then make some videos that toggle back and forth, back and forth, between “I’m not thriving at all right now” and “Actually I just slayed”; between using Final Cut Pro to distort your face into the shape of a waterlogged Mr. Potato Head and creating a military-grade defense shield of foundation and bronzer. That is to say, to be a gender-bending kid alone in your room making videos that capture exactly what it feels like to be a teenager right now, the whole multipolar mess of humanity deep inside your own brain, and then post those videos to YouTube even though what you’ve just expressed to your smartphone you probably would not say to your mother in the kitchen and definitely would not say to your classmates, all of whom (you believe, wrongly) think you’re really weird.

      Being a depressed kid alone in your room is not what it used to be because of the internet. In this day and age, the internet provides individuals with unlimited access to cyberspace where they are able to log on, escape, and be whoever they want to be. Cyberspace is an imagined space provided by the internet that is separate from our physical bodies. Cyberspace gives users the ability to explore their identities in various forms and ways, as demonstrated by Antonio Garza. Garza shares her experiences with different feelings and identities with her followers and takes on this persona where she can be completely herself. She makes a comment about how the things she posts online would never be said to people in her real offline life, however she has no issue sharing these things with her online following. This is largely due to the fact that users feel like cyberspace is different from real life. It feels like a separate place; a better place where identity can be explored freely without judgement. Cyberspace has become a way to help users cope with stressful events going on in their lives. Of course, there is speculation about the extent to which this is true, so this article touches more on how cyberspace can make a depressed kid alone in their room feel a little better. https://www.verywellfamily.com/benefits-of-social-media-4067431

      Reference:

      Gordon, S. (2020, May 4). Why social media is more than a vehicle for cyberbullying with teens. VeryWellFamily. https://www.verywellfamily.com/benefits-of-social-media-4067431

    1. It's striking that the institutions that talk the most about diversity often practice it the least. For example, no group of people sings the diversity anthem more frequently and fervently than administrators at just such elite universities.

      (Vinh P.) I've been hearing more about this than ever. Besides those top universities that talk about diversity, there's a limit to how much "diversity" they want. Some institutions may enjoy having a racial diversity, but not a ideological diversity.

    1. They feel isolated and powerless because they are. There’s a reason its most fervent users are teenagers, NEETS (that’s “Not in Education, Employment, or Training”), or both. In some cases, that distance has driven them to extremism, but it’s also made them uniquely able to reflect the world back at the rest of us.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzcKJVtgaNA

      Work Cited:

      Soldier_66. (2018). Why are we still here? Just to suffer? {Original scene} [Video]. YouTube.

    1. In 1997, at the dawn of the internet’s potential, the working hypothesis for privacy enhancing technology was simple: we’d develop really flexible power tools for ourselves, and then teach everyone to be like us. Everyone sending messages to each other would just need to understand the basic principles of cryptography. GPG is the result of that origin story. Instead of developing opinionated software with a simple interface, GPG was written to be as powerful and flexible as possible. It’s up to the user whether the underlying cipher is SERPENT or IDEA or TwoFish. The GnuPG man page is over sixteen thousand words long; for comparison, the novel Fahrenheit 451 is only 40k words. Worse, it turns out that nobody else found all this stuff to be fascinating. Even though GPG has been around for almost 20 years, there are only ~50,000 keys in the “strong set,” and less than 4 million keys have ever been published to the SKS keyserver pool ever. By today’s standards, that’s a shockingly small user base for a month of activity, much less 20 years.

      The failure of GPG

    1. My journey led me out of Enoosaen and back again. And in the process, I was embraced by the world, and you have become my village.

      I can't begin to explain just how big of an impact she's made in her village and to the rest of the world. It takes tremendous power and bravery to go against a "tradition" that's been going on for centuries and finally say "I've had enough", "This isn't right", "We need to do better", to have the courage to stand up against these acts takes a lot of courage. It's extremely hard to get people to believe that their way of doing something is wrong, especially in Africa. There are so many elders and adults who perform ceremonies such as FGM and believe it's a right way of displaying women's "growth". Kakenya Ntaiya honestly gave me hope for a better future for females in West Africa and also inspired me to not give up hope in trying to create a better community back home.

    2. She really loved learning, and she wanted to come to my school when she heard about it. So she asked her father, her mother — anyone to bring her to my school. They all refused. Faith did something very brave. She stole an egg from her mother’s house, went to the market, sold the egg and bought a single pencil. Then she walked five miles, clenching that pencil, trying to enroll. She arrived –

      Girls like Faith never gave up in believing she can find more opportunities in her life by seeking education, what she did is really brave and it's harsh knowing that she had to do what she did to just try to enroll into class.

    3. Not only were the girls tired and hungry from chores and long walks to school and back home, they were also not safe. It’s a sad truth, but girls are often assaulted, raped and even kidnapped on their way to school.

      In addition to FGM, the harsh things that some girls may have to go through such as assault, rape, unwanted attention, judgment on social media and comparisons to other girls just because of the way their body changes after puberty is a huge reason girls are uncomfortable, not confident and not empowered.

    1. ALEX This is from [geo]: In previous seasons it has appeared that the only people who had supernatural encounters have been the ones giving statements to The Magnus Institute. JONNY [BACKGROUND] Right. ALEX [CONT.] But in season four we heard about The Archivist getting statements from essentially random people on the street. Approximately what percentage of people in the Magnus-verse have had an encounter with one of the entities? JONNY Well, I mean, they’re random people on the street, but they’re random people on the street who’ve had encounters with the entities. Uh, it’s- it’s not the case that everyone who’s had an encounter with the entities has gone to The Magnus Institute. I mean, I haven’t really thought about it, but if I was going to just guess a number I’d say maybe… five to ten percent of the people in the Magnus world who’ve had an encounter with the entities have ended up reporting it to The Magnus Institute or, uh, one of the other, uh, organizations. ALEX And… running the numbers in my head on the fly in order for this universe to make any sense the percentage of the general population that has been exposed to the genuinely supernatural must be less than about one percent? JONNY I’d say probably everyone has brushed up against them. ALEX (surprised) Really? JONNY Just- just in- in the sense of like- I mean, everyone has that thing that they’re like, “Someone? Is there someone…? No. OK, I’m fine.” Uh… ALEX [OVERLAPPING] But it must be less than one percent of the (i don’t know what alex said here) in every way? JONNY Maybe, yeah, maybe like 10 to 15 percent have had like… ALEX [OVERLAPPING] A spook. JONNY [OVERLAPPING, CONT.] A spook of what you might just think of, like a slightly ghostly encounter that is not significant enough to delve into… ALEX Didn’t really go anywhere. JONNY Yeah, and maybe- maybe point one (.1) percent have had a legitimate… ALEX Yeah. JONNY Like it’s a small enough number that it’s not the- they’re not going to speak up to anyone who’s not like: “Hey, (archivist voice, ominous) tell me your story.” ALEX Alex-narratologist here, I recommend anyone interested in that reading up on the technique of writing known as the “Masquerade.” It’s a trope or conceit. The idea being there’s the world behind the world but there’s quite a lot of writing on how many people within your world are allowed to see behind that curtain before your world breaks?
    1. because we don’t care—it just doesn’t matter which one we buy.

      How does this relate to having instincts?The idea that it's a quick decision because we don't care boggles me.

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    1. but few looked past the highly emotional moment to explore the scientific explanation behind it, or to explore the question what it's truly like to be deaf.

      Most people that see these videos do not really focus on the topic but rather just that it is sad and emotional. There should be more focus on what it is actually like to be deaf and less of the emotional focus.

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    1. arranging his opinion

      Is Old Cotter just really that slow and scatterbrained that he has to "arrange" his opinion? What does "arranging" your opinion mean? Trying to make it as appealing as possible for someone else? Trying to actually come up with what you think about? Although I think it's vague for a reason, however you interpret this says a lot more about you than about the narrator I think, who has clearly already made up their mind about Old Cotter.

    1. If you can easily figure out how much it will take to bump it up to the next multiple of 1, 10, 100, or 1,000, and just as easily take that amount away from the other addend, the compensation strategy is probably an efficient and effective way to deal with the problem

      This strategy, to me, seems like a conceptual understanding. No, maybe it's actually a procedure. I think it's a procedural skill. What's the concept behind it? Maybe that combining these numbers can be made more efficient if we can give from one number to another, but that we also need to take away from one, too.

    1. .

      I think it’s so important that Christensen centered her units around purposefully chosen themes that her students could directly relate to, rather than just including texts from the culture of her students. Students are often told to make connections between texts, but don’t always have a curriculum that allows them to do that in a meaningful way. Christensen’s approach makes learning more meaningful because all of her texts build off each other and encourage her students to apply the themes to their everyday lives.

    1. believe

      Especially in summaries, avoid "I believe" or "I think" or "I would say". Just say, e.g. "the main points are…" or "It's vital that issues like these are discussed…"

    1. also, the entire point of IPv6 is that all nodes are globally routable, you don’t need special private address spaces or translation of any kind, it just works. And if you want, hah, privacy, that’s what firewalls are for.

      accurate. that is what firewalls are for? what is bad or the downside about that? it's not computationally complex, home routers should be able to offer this network security you want.

      the amount of networking hell we have had to endure because devices are not on the internet has been vast. i know we still have some way to go before we can trust in device security, but this warm blanket of network security, of running our own private networks & NAT'ing between, is a malpractice & problematic beyond belief & we need to get better, advance.

      there is some salvageable wisdom here. devices should come with an option to run in site-local address scopes, such that they are not routeable. my hope is most devices can be online, but perhaps we can allow for the option to not.

    2. Even though the entire “special” address assignments are exactly 1.271% of the entire IPv6 address space, we’re still allocating giant swathes of addresses. History repeats itself, you can see that right here.

      i can definitely see wanting massive local address space in ipv6. i imagine, for example, creating an untrusted/semi-trusted container/workload that shouldn't know where it's connections are coming from, where all packets are forwarded to it mapped through link local addresses. having this huge address space would allow not just that one container to have this kind of blindfolded addressing happen, but would allow tens of thousands of containers to have this kind of blindfolded addressing work on a machine.

      this seems like a weird bone to pick, and it strikes me as a huge feature, offering some very valid flexibility

    1. Only within a patriarchal structure is maternity the only social power open to women

      It’s like the child as a phallic symbol thing!!

      Also on a more serious note, trying to get power by playing into systems that are built around disenfranchising those same people is just not the way to go.

    1. So the reason that we don't have AGI is not that we could make AGI as powerful as the brain, and we just don't because it's too expensive.

      Will we get AGI cheaply enough

    1. “In Egyptian Arabic, we call bread ‘aish’, which translates as ‘life’,” Amin explains. “We are a culture of bread - not rice, not meat or potatoes. Most of us eat Egyptian baladi bread with all three meals across the day. Last year we were the world’s number-two consumer of flour and we produced – not consumed, okay — 28 billion loaves of baladi. It’s important.”

      Didn't realize that bread could be such a big deal in the diet of a culture. What would happen in days of today with Gluten allergies and such. Did they not have Gluten allergies in those times? And what about countries like Egypt of today - do they not have Gluten allergies? Or is it just unrecognized?

    1. The Grass divides as with a Comb

      I am not 100% sure, but I believe that this line in the poem is a metaphor. I believe this to be true because a metaphor is a figure of speech applied to an object/action that's not literal. In this instance, Dickinson is using the metaphor that the grass is divided like a comb is divided. The grass isn't actually divided with a comb it's just a metaphor. Do you all think this is a metaphor or something else?

    1. We have just established that there are multiple ways of thinking, learning, and expressing ourselves.

      It's crazy how much of my life I spent in school not even considering the fact that everybody learns differently. If I was doing poorly in a class I would always relate it to me not being smart enough or something like that; never even consider the fact that I would need to try learning a different way.

    1. Next, we found that students with the two mindsets had radically different beliefs about effort. Those with a growth mindset had a very straightforward (and correct) idea of effort — the idea that the harder you work, the more your ability will grow and that even geniuses have had to work hard for their accomplishments. In contrast, the students with the fixed mindset believed that if you worked hard it meant that you didn't have ability, and that things would just come naturally to you if you did. This means that every time something is hard for them and requires effort, it's both a threat and a bind. If they work hard at it that means that they aren't good at it, but if they don't work hard they won't do well. Clearly, since just about every worthwhile pursuit involves effort over a long period of time, this is a potentially crippling belief, not only in school but also in life. 

      Similar to learning how to play a musical instrument. You get better with constant practice.

    1. The people who are having the hard time right now are middle- income Americans. Under the president's policies, middle-income Americans have been buried. They're — they're just being crushed. Middle-income Americans have seen their income come down by $4,300. This is a — this is a tax in and of itself. I'll call it the economy tax. It's been crushing. The same time, gasoline prices have doubled under the president, electric rates are up, food prices are up, health care costs have gone up by $2,500 a family.

      Romney gives Obama his Perspective on his Contradictions as a President. saying that the middle income class of Americans, electric rates are up, food prices are up, health care costs are up by 2500 $ per family and income has decreased by 4300 $

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    1. This approach to designing with defaults is plain old Generic — it’s not sexy like the Premium Generic, just plainly literal. The less frivolous language and design, the more transparent. It’s not presenting its content in a crystal goblet, but in a single-use clear plastic cup.

      This is an interesting take as well when considering the diction evokes a critical lens but also, perhaps but also perhaps, intentionally putting side-by-side the next take that talks about the "absence of graphic design" that Premium Generic would use, in a way that criticizes Premium Generic and that Regular Generic is superior in someway

    1. I call this "struggle porn": a masochistic obsession with pushing yourself harder, listening to people tell you to work harder, and broadcasting how hard you’re working.

      This is a difficult one. Hard work has always been revered. Most of the time conventional advice is to work hard. Even when I'm talking to Arya, I do keep telling him that the smarts can take you only so far hard work really will. So the question is are we talking about hard work or really about discipline work. Also, I think we need to separate hard work from suffering. Just working harder does not mean it's a bad thing. What would make working hard bad is really if you're suffering through it. And what does hard work really mean? Is it just long hours? If it is long hours and you are actually enjoying the work then what does it matter. Why would I not continue to do that? Why should I be advised against that?

    1. Does your API cross organizational and national boundaries the same way that HTTP needs to? Then building a RESTful API with a predictable, uniform interface might be the right approach. If not, it’s good to remember that Fielding favored having form follow function. Maybe something like GraphQL or even just JSON-RPC would be a better fit for what you are trying to accomplish.

      Architectural considerations of how the API is to be accessed and distributed (and also the consumers).

    1. The second soul (siinesiin) is immortal and not dependent on the material body of man. It can leave the body in the form of a wasp or bee through the nose or mouth. The soul can also become a bird. It can take several forms and is imagined in the form of a small man, or just the contrary, as a giant. This soul, most probably, resides in the blood. However, the heart, the lungs, the liver can also be its home. When one is frightened, or chuckles or sneezes, this soul drops out of the body and is chased by the evil spirits. That is why it is dangerous to frighten people, especially children whose souls leave the body more easily. If the soul leaves the body man falls ill or dies, as his soul is taken away or eaten up by the spirits (Sarkozi-Sazykin 2004).

      The blood /flesh soul. Immortals. Can leave the body through the mouth or nose in the form of a wasp. Can become a bird. Resides in the blood, heart, lungs, liver.

      This soul can leave the body when frightened, sneezing or laughing, wherein it's chased around by spirits.

      Dangerous to frighten people, especially little kids, who are susceptible to having their souls scared out of them.

      If this soul leaves you you'll fall ill or die, as the soul is taken away or eaten by spirits.

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    1. This manuscript is in revision at eLife

      The decision letter after peer review, sent to the authors on October 26 2020, follows.

      Summary

      The idea of using DNA tags to enable tracking of protein and its subsequent handling is innovative and interesting. The manuscript is well written and some of the notions presented may help drive the field forward. There is a potential to revise the manuscript for eLife as a proof of principle for the approach of using scRNA seq to track an antigen in vivo.

      Essential Revisions

      While the archiving of the psDNA-Ova conjugate in lymphatic endothelial cells matches the earlier observations of fluorescently tagged Ova, the power of this method is to work with scRNAseq to be able to identify novel cells that interact the the complex. In this regard, it's clear that the psDNA-Ova may interact differently with various cell types due to the potential for recognition of the psDNA, particularly by TLR9 as suggested. Tracking the psDNA-Ova conjugate as an immunogenic adjuvant-antigen complex is an interesting starting point. You can address this concern by reframing the goal from tracking a protein antigen to characterizing the archiving and presentation of the barcoded psDNA-Ova complex. This doesn't require any additional work, just changing the way you set it up- that this if you immunogen is a DNA-protein complex- you can track it by scRNA-seq. The potential to study trafficking in a TLR9 KO mice in the future might open up using this method more generically for tracking the protein antigen, but this would require much more work to rule out other influence of the DNA on archiving and processing of the antigen.

      Your evidence that the psDNA really reflects the distribution of the protein is not sufficient. In Figure 1 c and d it's not clear how you measure the amount of protein? Is this the protein injected or the protein detected in a immunoblot or capture immunoassay? To extend the in vitro analysis in Figure 1c and d to actually visualize the native protein with anti-Ova and the psDNA by FISH would provide a high degree of clarity that the psDNA is not acting like a tattoo that outlives the intact protein. The FISH method could take advantage of any amplification step as long as it is consistent with detection by scRNAseq. Microscopy could demonstrate that the two signals remain in the same comparments. A particularly powerful way to show the direct association would be to perform a bulk IP-seq with anti-Ova and detection of the bar code with a test of the efficiency of depletion of the bar code form the cell lysate. A well-controlled experiment could be performed to map out the time dependent loss of protein (IP-western or capture immunoassay), and the free and protein associated psDNA. It would be ideal to include a macrophage in the analysis as a highly degradative cells in comparison to the dendritic cell and LEC, that maybe more specialized to regain intact proteins.

    1. Some even started to say that Cobell was just in it to secure a big payoff for herself

      I get how people could have thought this, but it was because there were many factors in play and a lot of risks. It's clear how there were others that didn't see Cobell's vision, but she did and that's what matters

    1. COVID-19 adds a new urgency to the debate and brings in new actors such as public health authorities and the medical sector. It’s not just about smartphone apps tracing contacts with infected people that are currently being rolled out by corporations and governments around the world. The medical community will seize the pandemic to boost its case for accessing detailed health data to perform all sorts of research studies. Public health authorities will push for more surveillance in order to get early warning of future pandemics. It’s the same trade-off. Individually, the data is very intimate. But collectively, it has enormous value to us all.

      COVID put new pressure on this debate as health officials entered the discussion. Health officials have, and will continue to push for access to aggregate data, to help us respond and prepare for pandemics.

    1. He said that now, as he recognized strains of white nationalism spreading into mainstream politics, he felt accountable. “It’s not just that I was wrong. It’s that it caused real damage,” he remembered saying.

      This is very important for Derek to recognize. Others can relate when accountability is brought up. Some choose to be held accountable to recognize mistakes, creating room for change and growth.

    1. In arguing that academic writing can be (and already is) narrative based, I’m arguing that academic writing is not nearly as objective as we often like to imagine. It is autobiographical. I’m also arguing that much of the academic writing I’ve done, which explicitly relies on narrative, is just as valid as any other type of academic writing. That is, my writing is revealing the truth of Thomas Newkirk’s argument that “[my] theories are really disguised autobiographies” (3). If we are indeed narrative beings, then surely we do not simply shut off the narrative machine the minute we start writing an academic or argumentative text, even if we may pretend that we do.

      Ron Christiansen offers an interesting point when it comes to academic writing. Academic writing is at it's core, extremely detailed story telling. In scientific writing, particular emphasis is taken to how the scientists performed their procedures, and the results of said procedures, and the broader implications of the results of said procedure. In other words, a scientific paper is an extremely rigorous narrative.

    1. The films are thus better understood as copies whose originals are often lost or little known” (Dika, 10-11)

      This is a great way the writer used to defend their claim. Just by including evidence that nostalgia in films are just copies whose originals are lost. In fact it's giving justice to the originals because they're reviving the original lost film instead of it being lost forever.

    1. The recovery of a tradition always begins at the existential level, with the experience of what it is to be human under a specific set of circumstances and conditions. It is very difficult to engage in a candid and frank critical discussion about race by assuming it is going to be a rational exchange. Race must be addressed in a form that can deal with its complexity and irrationality.

      I found this paragraph a bit sad considering they talk about conversation of race being an irrational exchange. The fact that it's difficult to engage in this type of conversation just shows that we haven't progressed enough as a society to promote decency rather than oppression.

    1. more importantly, the tools we already use).

      I find this difficult to do, especially with young people who have grown up with wireless Internet, smart phones, etc. It's hard to imagine how to gain information when it has always been at one's fingertips. In addition, new apps and tools are constantly being created, often just to replace another one that wasn't ineffective. It's a matter of conspicuous consumption in my mind. So I'm having difficulty not being pessimistic about how get students to think critically about digital tools.

    1. To explore one potential solution, we created an experimental quantum computing textbook, Quantum Country. It’s written in a “mnemonic medium,” interleaving expert-authored spaced repetition prompts into the reading experience. Our goal was to help readers engage with challenging technical material by supporting their memory. As we interviewed readers, though, we noticed that the regular review sessions didn’t just build detailed retention: the ongoing practice also changed readers’ relationship to the material by maintaining their contact with it over time. These people didn’t just read the book once and proceed with their lives. Quantum Country’s review sessions returned readers to its ideas again and again over weeks and months.

      An experimental example with some real results

    1. A mind garden is not a mind backyard. It’s not about dumping notes in there and forgetting about them.

      And this is the most important part of the personal creative process. It's a garden, not a backyard...or a garage for that matter. And tending to the garden doesn't just need planting new seeds. it also needs tending to the rest of the garden which might be in different stages of growth. Some saplings. Some grown plants. Some already flowering. And yet others providing fruit. And each of them has to be tended to not - not just plant new ones.

  3. Oct 2020
    1. y dangerous idea is that we shall eventually grow out of all this and even learn to laugh at it, just as we laugh at Basil Fawlty when he beats his car

      It's hard to laugh at this when cars don't kill loved ones; sure a person could be considered defective but that doesn't help a grieving family

    2. ? Isn't the murderer or the rapist just a machine with a defective component? Or a defective upbringing? Defective education? Defective genes?

      I don't think it's the same; rape and murder have lasting effects on the victim that will stay with them. If my computer gets a virus I don't get PTSD and other psychological issues from it.

    1. Because the concern with gender is funda-mentally a concern with power, it is necessary to see power for what it really is,and, perhaps more important, what it really isn’t.

      I would agree with this, because it is the fact that it's about power, but it's not all about the power, and not just the power.

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    1. Come, my travelling mates, my friends, play your Phrygian instruments, your drums and tambourines, the instruments that mother Rea and I discovered.

      Dionysus's ability to involve everyone says a lot about his trickster qualities. He's able to make everyone feel his sincerity, although it's all just a disguise.

    1. Furthermore, while these comprised an intersecting set of institutional and disciplinary relations which might be productively analysed as particular articulations of power and knowledge, the suggestion that they should be construed as institutions of confinement

      https://youtu.be/BxRhKtqEgBY

      Written version:

      Bennett starts this piece off by referencing Michel Foucault’s carceral archipelago, and he sort of assumes that you already know what that is.

      Foucault outlines his idea of the carceral archipelago in his 1975 book Discipline and Punish. Literally carceral archipelago means “jail islands,” or a series of islands housing jails. But Foucault uses the term to refer to both literal prisons and a whole bunch of other techniques and institutions that the modern state uses to discipline the modern subject.

      To understand Foucault’s idea about how modern states discipline citizens, let’s look at what he says about the panopticon.

      The panopticon was built into a kind of jail designed by the English philosopher Jeremy Bentham. Not that many of them were actually built, but it’s the idea of the panopticon rather than the actual thing that’s important for Foucault.

      The jail is built around a surveillance tower, and prison guards can see into each individual cell.

      But the key to this system, for Foucault, is that there could be someone in the tower or there could not be—just its existence is enough to ensure compliance.

      For Foucault, a whole bunch of other elements of society work in the same way, to surveil modern subjects and keep them submissive to the will of the state. He includes things like medicine, psychology, education, and public assistance in this program of surveillance.

      In Foucault’s account, the state ensures a submissive populace through constant surveillance—or threat of surveillance—of their activities. The carceral archipelago is this series of institutions that ensure compliance by surveilling the populace.

      Next Bennett is going to tell us what museums have to do with the carceral archipelago.

    1. Additionally, as we’ve inferred that these letters are substan-tially shaped by teachers’ instructional practices, we must questionhoweducators gain practice at recentering classrooms on student voice.Fretting about youth civic engagement and students’ lack of preparationfor a media landscape bombarded by fake news largely ignores the factthat student civic identities are substantially shaped by schools and teachers.Our exploration of writing in just five sites within this study reveals thatyouth in areas that civic literature frequently sees as disengaged are highlyvocal around civic issues that surround them; more important, the patternsof what kinds of evidence they utilize and what kinds of arguments theymake suggest that teachers have guided how student civic voice is articu-lated, with what resources, and in acknowledgment of what other commu-nities and movements.

      I'm not certain this advocates for schools to be involved in civic engagement. I also think it's a fallacy the writer has continually believed that society is unaware of the role schools can take in building youth politics. The power teachers have to shape, alter, and impact student voice is why certain politicians lash out against universities and why some schools are institutionally underfunded, why standardized learning is pushed in public schools, and why some people are okay with high drop out rates in certain districts. Silencing student AND teacher voice is intentional.

    1. Reviewer #3:

      The authors ask whether and how information about an upcoming choice is encoded by neuronal activities in V1. To address this question, they recorded from multiple neurons in V1 simultaneously, while monkeys performed a delayed orientation-match-to-sample task. They then asked whether and how they could decode the stimulus presented to the animal, and/or the upcoming behavioral report of their decision (choice), from these V1 recordings. They found that the combination stimulus+choice could be decoded, and that bursty neurons were most likely to affect the decoded choice. Moreover, neurons in the superficial cortical layer also appeared to have a stronger choice signal. This suggests that the choice signal may arise outside of V1, but nevertheless be reflected by spiking activity within V1.

      This study addresses an interesting and potentially important question: where do choice signals arise in the brain, and how do V1 activities relate to those choice signals? At the same time, I was quite confused about a lot of the data presented and overall remain somewhat unconvinced. My specific critiques are as follows:

      1) In Fig. 1BC: what are these population vectors? In the case of "C", I assume these are the SVM weights that are used to discriminate between choices, and the data for each choice are pooled over both stimulus types (match or non-match). But for "S+C", I don't quite follow what is going on. Is it the case that you do the decoding just on the "correct" trials (as suggested in Table 1)? This critique should highlight the fact that I failed to understand your main point, about decoding C vs "S+C". Much more writing clarity throughout the paper would help with this, and make it possible for me to evaluate the paper's main claims.

      2) Fig. 1D is claimed to tell us how neurons respond differently under different conditions, but it does not do that. It tells us how SVM decoders weight those neurons differently under different conditions. Moreover the result seems kind of trivial: it shows that "strong weights change more" between conditions. That's not very surprising: you are subtracting bigger numbers when there are stronger weights, so the differences will be larger. Is there more going on here?

      3) In Fig. 2: what time intervals were the spikes summed for the decoding? There are some values given for different window lengths, but when did those windows start? Was it at the start of the "test" image presentation? Or some other time?

      4) It seems like movement is a confound. The claim is that choice is represented in V1. But we know from recent work by Stringer et al. (Science 2019), that movement profoundly affects V1 spiking. So if any movement signals precede the behavioural report, those will correlate with choice and be reflected by V1 spiking. In that case, is it really fair to say that V1 encodes choice? Or, rather, that the pre-report motion of the animal is encoded in V1?

      5) I couldn't find strong support for the claim that decoding is better when using superficial neurons vs. deeper ones. A panel like Fig. 7E (which does this for bursty vs non-bursty neurons) but comparing the different layers would help with this. I realize this result is somewhat implied by the differences in bursty neuron fraction across layers (which is shown), but this claim is central and so should be explicitly tested.

      6) I have concerns about a lot of the statistical tests used in this paper. For example:

      a) Fig. 2D. Should do a permutation test, to randomly assign neurons to "big" vs "small" weight categories, then redo the analysis. That will get p-value much more reliably than the t-test, which assumes (incorrectly that data are Gaussian). Another big issue is that the selection of small vs big can have some biasing effects, so the t-test between the two groups could way overemphasize significance. A permutation test is harder to fool in this way.

      b) Fig 3D statistical test compares the analysis of data with optimized weights to a case of random weights and random permutation. That's not quite fair because you optimize the weights for the real data but not for the null hypothesis you are testing. A better test would be to do random permutations of the data, then train the weights on each random permutation and test on held-out data from that random permutation. It will likely yield similar results to what you've got, but be a more compelling test in my opinion.

      c) Fig. 6B: not sure t-test is right. Are these data Gaussian?

      7) The results in Fig. 9BC seem interesting, but it's hard to parse the network diagrams. Showing 3x3 matrices for the CCM coefficients from neurons each layer to ones in each other layer would help me to evaluate the claim that the superficial layer acts as a hub.

    1. Reviewer #2:

      In this manuscript, the authors postulate that the observed phenomena of stereotyped colocalization of OSNs in insect antenna coupled with evidence of "non-synaptic interactions" (NSI) can serve an important role in parsing mixture ratios. Parsing these ratios accurately has been of key interest both for the understanding of pheromone recognition, as well as the proposed concept of "concentration invariance".

      The authors perform a nice series of calculations showing that NSI can improve the resolution of synchronous inputs, and conversely, improve the separation between asynchronous inputs. Both aspects are important features of resolving stochastic and intermittent plume information in nature.

      Although I have collaborated in a number of computational studies, my main expertise is in the neuroethology of olfaction, and therefore my comments will be concentrated on this aspect. However, in general the computation performed appears reasonable for the concept to be tackled.

      However, I have a few questions on the rationale for the study, as well as it's interpretation I would like the authors to address. I will separate my concerns into three categories for simplicity:

      1) BIOLOGY: The choice of Drosophila for the calculations is understood and likely necessary as it is the only system for which we have sufficient neurophysiological data at both the periphery and central levels to address this question. However, the concept of co-localization itself is known across the Arthropoda, and varies widely among species. For example, while moths and flies generally have 1-4 colocalized OSNs per sensilla (and these are the two systems that the authors reference), other systems like beetles, ants, and bees have up to 20-30 colocalized sensilla. Locusts, for which Gilles Laurent performed foundational research on blend encoding, have up to 50 OSNs in the same sensilla. Further, while it is true that pheromone blend neurons are often colocalized, this is not always the case.



      Thus, I would like the authors to take some time to consider: If NSIs are important for mixture processing, why do insects like bees (who, as shown by Giovanni Galizia and Paul Szyszka referenced in the manuscript can process mixtures at high speeds) have 20-30 OSNs together? How would this work? 


      2) ENVIRONMENT: While concentration invariance and ratio processing has been shown to be important for pheromone processing in moths and some other cases, the true complexity of odor detection is just beginning to be appreciated. See (https://doi.org/10.3389/fphys.2019.00972) for a nice recent review. First, odors are not always presented as point sources, they are not often without a chemical background, and insects themselves might not always have need for such strict attention to ratio. In the case of Drosophila, one can easily argue that when locating a rotting fruit for oviposition, the exact composition of the fruit odor might be less important, although the flies have specific OSNs to detect it. 



      So, I would like the authors to address - If NSIs are important for mixture processing, what happens when they are not needed, meaning when concentration ratios are not essential for identification? Would they limit the processing otherwise? If the authors disagree with this line of thinking, I would also like them to comment on the evidence that insects always need such fine tuning of ratios in their odor detection.


      3.) OTHER EXPLANATIONS: The authors, as well as others like Tim Pearce and Christiane Linster, have spent considerable time providing computational evidence regarding mixture processing (not just monomolecular odors). While there is time spent on comparing the NSI model to other models ("Comparison with related modelling works"), it mainly focuses on how the current model incorporates more information, rather than on why it performs better in detecting ratios. 

I would like the authors to take more time here to compare the NSI to other mixture processing models (several of which are not referenced) and explain why their model is better, just like they do in comparing how NSI improves ratio processing over LN/PN activity alone. Further, they mention myelination - so can the authors explain how mammals that would need similar attention to ratios accomplish this without NSIs - are there any similarities expected?

      These explanations and additions will greatly improve the relevance of this study to insect science and future research on this interesting topic.

    1. There was certainly no chance that six acres of primereal estate in lower Manhattan would be razed and rededicated asholy ground.

      Julius is regularly consumed in his search for the past, as we see repeatedly throughout the book. In particular, I think that this section, where he muses on the dishonored mass-grave, is telling of his mental state as a whole. The story is true- Manhattan has hundreds to thousands of bodies buried under it, many we will probably not find for years to come. However, Julius seems particularly bothered by the idea of "office buildings, shops, streets, diners, pharmacies, and the endless hum of quotidian commerce and government" paving over the graves of slaves. Like everything in Open City, I believe this might be a reference to Julius' own mental state. We know he's clearly repressing something from his past, just as Manhattan is repressing a particularly dark part of it's history.

    2. , but I was not completely surprised. Avoiding thedrama of death, its unpleasantness, had been my inadvertent idea innot going there.

      This part expressed how Julius is so selfish. Professor Saito was someone that was always there for Julius and he couldn't even be there for him in his last days or weeks alive. He didn't even want to say his goodbyes or anything just because he wanted to avoid the drama of death and not be heart. It's also so ironic how he then mentions that the professor meant so much to him, but knew no one outside of their relationship. I understand how Julius couldn't stand seeing Professor Saito dying but why didn't he consider professor Saitos's feelings?

    3. How strange the eect of those fewmonths with her had been on me.

      Here, Julius mentions that his relationship with Nadege had a strange effect on him, but this is pretty much all the detail we get from him about his feelings about her, and the way he conveys his thoughts still feels very distant and detached. For me, it's hard to tell whether this means the breakup had little impact on him, or whether he's just trying very hard to conceal his true feelings.

    4. I watched the couples, watched the parties of fourand ve, watched the young men who stood in trios, who wereobviously absorbed in the moving bodies of the beautiful youngwomen. The innocence on view was inscrutable and unremarkable.They were exactly like young people everywhere. And I felt some ofthat mental constriction—imperceptible sometimes

      Julius often has this feeling of sonder. He's invested into the mesmerization that pulls him into people's lives and realizing that everyone has a life and weight of their own. I think this is exactly what makes his story so relatable to so many of us. Julius is at this place, drinking, and just watching people live, and thinking about who they are. He is an observer like us. It's interesting, though, because it's not like he's a typical underdog-type character. He seems more like a puppeteer because he is presenting this story to us. And we have to somehow trust him--like he's our psychiatrist into how we can view the world in a certain light.

    5. It’s a puzzle, I rememberhim saying, she was a good scholar, and she was on the right side ofthe struggles of the time, but I simply couldn’t stand her in person.She was abrasive and egotistical, heaven rest her soul. You can’t saya word against her around here, though. She’s still considered asaint.

      I wonder if I've personally had this experience with someone in my life. This seems like a complicated feeling towards someone; not really one of indifference, but of distaste. A person can definitely say the right things, stand for the right people, be on the "right side of history," but their actual personality still isn't digestible. It's interesting to think there are many people you may admire and respect for what they've done, but you would not get along with them or be close to them because of how they are. I wonder if that's just a fault of humans, and the way things are, or something that can be worked on and "fixed" in a sense.

    6. Each neighborhood of the city appeared to be made of adierent substance, each seemed to have a dierent air pressure, adierent psychic weight: the bright lights and shuttered shops, thehousing projects and luxury hotels, the re escapes and city parks

      This is a very good summary of the feeling one experiences from walking through New York City's streets: you can easily go from the high-end shops with tall, luxury buildings, to a more modest neighborhood with housing projects and small, run-down parks. They each have their own air to them giving them a unique feeling, but you can't really tell where that airs stops and begins. And it's this seamless transition of energies and environments that make walks in NYC so intriguing and, honestly, so relaxing and thought-provoking that you often just keep walking without realizing how far you've walked.

    1. If we find ourselves, in the name of equity, adopting initiatives meant to improve educational outcomes by adjusting mindsets or cultures in students of color, it’s time to reconsider our efforts.

      This connects really well with what Gholdy Muhammed said in the "Abolitionist" video. She said that Black people just want to be recognized as human beings, and that's it. As people we are a body, and if your arm is hurting or broken you are going to go to the doctor to fix it, and then she concluded her statement by saying Black people are the broken arm right now. I feel as though this article connects so well with Gholdy's statment because it takes a community/a whole body as Paul Gorski says, to fix this issue. Great article, and I hope as teachers we all come together to fix this injustice.

    1. Author Response

      Summary:

      The strengths of the study are the findings that a single oxytocin level measured from saliva or plasma is not meaningful in the way that the field might currently be measuring. The reviewers appreciated this finding, and the careful attention to detail, but felt that the results fell short.

      Reviewer #1:

      This article describes the investigation of a valuable research question, given the interest in using salivary oxytocin measures as a proxy of oxytocin system activity. A strength of the study is the use of two independent datasets and the comparison between intranasal and intravenous administration. The authors report poor reliability for measuring salivary oxytocin across visits, that intravenous delivery does not increase concentrations, and that salivary and blood plasma concentrations are not correlated.

      Line 77-78: While it's true that saliva collection provides logistical advantages, there are also measurement advantages (e.g., relatively clean matrix) that are summarised in the MacLean et al (2019) study, which has already been cited.

      Thanks for the suggestion. We added this advantage:

      Line 101Compared to blood sampling, saliva collection presents several logistical and measurement advantages (i.e. relatively clean matrix)(1).”

      Line 86: It is important to note that the 1IU intravenous dose in this study led to equivalent concentrations in blood compared to intranasal administration.

      The reviewer is right that 10 IU (over 10min) in our case increased the concentrations of plasmatic oxytocin beyond those observed for the spray or nebuliser (we reported the full time-course of variations in plasmatic oxytocin in another manuscript we published earlier this year)(2). This was an intentional aspect of our study design. We decided to use the highest intravenous dose (at the highest rate of 1IU/min) that we could get permission to administer safely in healthy volunteers as a proof of concept, so as to achieve a robust and prolonged increase in plasmatic oxytocin over the course of our full testing session. In this manner, we demonstrate that even when plasmatic levels of OT are maintained substantially increased throughout the observation interval, we cannot detect increases in salivary oxytocin. In this aspect, we believe that our manuscript goes one step beyond the important findings described in of Quintana et al. 2018(3), showing that this phenomenon is not linked to dosage (or to amount of increase in plasmatic levels of exogenous OT), as far as we can determine given the current safety standards for the administration of OT IV.

      Please see also response to Reviewer 2, point 1.

      Line 158: When using both ELISA and HPLC-MS, extracted and unextracted samples are correlated when measuring oxytocin concentrations in saliva, at least in dogs. (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jneumeth.2017.08.033).

      Thanks for pointing out this study. Indeed, in this specific study the authors found correlations between extracted and unextracted saliva samples. Such associations in humans have nevertheless been rare. In humans, the body of evidence suggests that the measurements obtained when comparing extracted samples to unextracted samples, or when comparing samples obtained using different methods of quantification (for instance, ELISA versus radioimmunoassay), do not correlate or show very low correlations (4, 5). Furthermore, most ELISA kits and HPLC-MS protocols to measure oxytocin have so far fallen short on sensitivity to detect the typical concentrations observed in humans at baseline (0-10pg/ml)(6). The current gold-standard method for quantifying oxytocin in biological fluids is the radioimmunoassay we used in this study(4). This method has shown superior sensitivity and specificity when compared to other quantification methods, when combined with extracted samples; therefore, it was our primary choice. We now highlight this advantage in the revised version of the manuscript more explicitly.

      Line 129For all analyses, we followed current gold-standard practices in the field and assayed oxytocin concentrations using radioimmunoassay in extracted samples, which has shown superior sensitivity and specificity when compared to other quantification methods(7).

      Statistical reporting: I ran the article through statcheck R package (a web version is also available) and found a number of inconsistencies with the reported statistics and their p values. For example, on Line 302 the authors reported: t(123) = 1.54, p = 0.41, but this should yield a p value of 0.13. The authors should do the same and fix these errors.

      Thanks very much for taking the time to check our statistical reporting thoroughly. We apologize if we were not sufficiently clear in the previous version of the manuscript, but the p-values we reported are corrected for multiple comparisons using Tukey correction. Currently, statcheck can only evaluate inconsistencies when the results are reported in the standard APA style and does not take into consideration corrections for multiple comparisons of any kind. We did check all of our statistical reporting and the p-values and correspondent statistics are correct (we only corrected an inadvertent error in reporting the degrees of freedom for these tests). In any case, we have now clarified in the manuscript when the reported p-values have been adjusted for multiple comparison to avoid any further confusion.

      Line 305: The confidence intervals for these correlations should be reported.

      We have now added the confidence intervals, estimated using bootstrapping, in our results section.

      Line 348: This is an important point, but it's important to note that the vast majority of these studies use plasma or saliva measures. Perhaps CSF measures are more reliable, but the question wasn't assessed in the present study, and I'm not sure if anyone has looked at this question.

      We are not aware of any study evaluating the stability of measurements of oxytocin in the CSF. Indeed, there are only a few studies sampling CSF to measure oxytocin in clinical patients and it is unlikely that CSF will become a widely used fluid to measure oxytocin in humans, given the invasiveness of the procedure to obtain CSF samples. Here, we wanted to refer specifically to saliva and plasma, which remain as the most popular options for measuring oxytocin in humans and which we investigated specifically in the current study. We have changed the text accordingly for clarity.

      Line 466 “Our data poses questions about the interpretation of previous evidence seeking to associate single measurements of baseline oxytocin in saliva and plasma with individual differences in a range of neuro-behavioural or clinical traits.”

      Line 423: I broadly agree with this conclusion, but it should be added that "single measurements of baseline levels of endogenous oxytocin in saliva and plasma are not stable under typical laboratory conditions" Perhaps these measures can be more stable using other means (i.e., better standardising collection conditions). But the fact remains, under typical conditions these measures do not demonstrate reliability.

      Thanks for the suggestion. We have revised the text accordingly throughout the manuscript (examples below). Our study is a pharmacological study, which means that it is conducted in a highly controlled setting and adheres to strict protocols (i.e. we tested participants at the same time of the day, we instructed participants to abstain from alcohol and heavy exercise for 24 h and from any beverage or food for 2 h before scanning). These exclusion criteria were stricter than those applied in a large number of studies sampling saliva and plasma for measuring oxytocin for the purposes estimating possible associations with various traits associating. Most of these studies do not control, for instance, for fluid or food ingestion. Therefore, we expected our reliability calculations to represent an optimistic estimate of the reliabilities of the salivary and plasmatic oxytocin concentration used in most studies.

      For now, it remains unclear to us what factors might be driving the within-subject variability in salivary and plasmatic concentrations we report in this study. Thanks to Reviewer 3, we are now confident that this is unlikely to represent measurement error (see response to Reviewer 3, point 3).

      Line 117 “Here, we aimed to characterize the reliability of both salivary and plasmatic single measures of basal oxytocin in two independent datasets, to gain insight about their stability in typical laboratory conditions and their validity as trait markers for the physiology of the oxytocin system in humans.

      Line 567 “In summary, single measurements of baseline levels of endogenous oxytocin in saliva and plasma as obtained in typical laboratory conditions are not stable and therefore their validity as trait markers of the physiology of the oxytocin system is questionable.”

      Reviewer #2:

      Summary:

      To test questions whether salivary and plasmatic oxytocin at baseline reflect the physiology of the oxytocin system, and whether salivary oxytocin index its plasma levels, the authors quantified baseline plasmatic and/or salivary oxytocin using radioimmunoassay from two independent datasets. Dataset A comprised 17 healthy men sampled on four occasions approximately at weekly intervals. In the dataset A, oxytocin was administered intravenously and intranasally in a triple dummy, within-subject, placebo-controlled design and compared baseline levels and the effects of routes of administration. With dataset A, whether salivary oxytocin can predict plasmatic oxytocin at baseline and after intranasal and intravenous administrations of oxytocin were also tested. Dataset B comprised baseline plasma oxytocin levels collected from 20 healthy men sampled on two separate occasions. In both datasets, single measurements of plasmatic and salivary oxytocin showed insufficient reliability across visits (Intra-class correlation coefficient: 0.23-0.80; mean CV: 31-63%). Salivary oxytocin was increased after intranasal administration of oxytocin (40 IU), but intravenous administration (10 IU) does not significantly change. Saliva and plasma oxytocin did not correlate at baseline or after administration of exogenous oxytocin (p>0.18). The authors suggest that the use of single measurements of baseline oxytocin concentrations in saliva and plasma as valid biomarkers of the physiology of the oxytocin system is questionable in men. Furthermore, they suggest that saliva oxytocin is a weak surrogate for plasma oxytocin and that the increases in saliva oxytocin observed after intranasal oxytocin most likely reflect unabsorbed peptide and should not be used to predict treatment effects.

      General comments:

      The current study tested research questions relevant for the study field. The analyses in two independent datasets with different routes of oxytocin administrations is the strength of current study. However, the limited novelty of findings and several limitations are noticed in the current report as described below.

      Specific and major comments:

      1) Previous study with similar results has already revealed that saliva oxytocin is a weak surrogate for plasmatic oxytocin, and increases in salivary oxytocin after the intranasal administration of exogenous oxytocin most likely represent drip-down transport from the nasal to the oral cavity and not systemic absorption (Quintana 2018 in Ref 13). Therefore, the novelty of current findings is limited. The authors should more clearly state the novelty of current results and the replication of previous findings.

      We apologize for not describing the novelty and impact of our findings with sufficient clarity, and thanks for the opportunity to do so. Our study had two major goals. The first was to investigate whether single measurements of salivary and plasmatic concentrations of oxytocin can be reliably estimated within the same individual when collected at baseline conditions (i.e. without any experimental manipulation). As the reviewer highlighted, this is an important methodological question given the wide use of these measurements in a large and increasing number of studies to establish associations between the physiology of the oxytocin system and a number of brain and behavioural phenotypes in both clinical and non-clinical samples. However, to our knowledge, no previous study has appropriately conducted a thorough investigation of the reliability of these measurements (see also response to Reviewer 3, point 5). Thanks to our study, we now know that when single measurements are collected at baseline, salivary and plasmatic oxytocin cannot provide a sufficiently stable trait marker of the physiology of the oxytocin system in humans. As we highlight in the manuscript, this finding should deter the field from making strong claims based exclusively on associations of phenotypes with single measurements of peripheral oxytocin concentrations. Furthermore, our study also describes two very concrete implications of our findings which we believe are very important for the field. First, if baseline level of OT is to be used as a trait marker, future studies should, as much as possible, rely on repeated measures within the same participant but collected on different days to maximize reliability. Second, this less than perfect reliability should be taken into consideration when calculating the sizes of the samples needed to detect a certain effect, if it exists, with sufficient statistical power.

      The second goal of our study was, as pointed out by the reviewer, to revisit the findings of Quintana et al. 2018(3), but this time with two major design modifications which could strengthen the conclusions from that study. The first modification was the dose of intravenous oxytocin administered, which was considerably higher (see response to Reviewer 1, point 2). The administration of a higher dose that resulted in substantial and sustained increases in plasmatic oxytocin throughout the two hours observation period can only strengthen the previous conclusion that increases in plasmatic oxytocin cannot be detected in salivary measurements, and that this is not a matter of dose (as far as we can ascertain by administering the maximum intravenous dose we could safely administer in healthy volunteers). We believe that this is an important addition to the literature.

      The second modification regarded the choice of the method we used to quantify oxytocin. In this study, we used radioimmunoassay, which is superior to ELISA in sensitivity and hence more appropriate to measure the low concentrations of oxytocin in saliva and plasma typically detected in humans at baseline conditions (1-10 pg/ml; for most individuals 1-5 pg/ml)(6). For instance, in Quintana et al. 2018(3) the limitations in the sensitivity of the ELISA kit used led the authors to discard around 50% of the collected saliva samples. Hence, our study replicates and extends the previous findings from Quintana et al. 2018 in important ways, demonstrating that the lack of an association between increases plasmatic oxytocin and salivary measurements is not limited by the dose of intravenous oxytocin administered or limitations of the sensitivity of the method used to quantify oxytocin.

      We have now made the novelty and contribution of our work more explicit:

      *Line 77 “Currently, we lack robust evidence that single measures of endogenous oxytocin in saliva and plasma at rest are stable enough to provide a valid trait marker of the activity of the oxytocin system in healthy individuals. Indeed, previous studies have claimed within-individual stability of baseline plasmatic and salivary concentrations of oxytocin in both adults and children based on moderate-to-strong correlations between salivary and plasmatic oxytocin concentrations measured repeatedly within the same individual over time using ELISA in unextracted samples(14-16). However, these studies have a number of methodological limitations that raise questions about the validity of their main conclusion that baseline plasmatic and salivary concentrations are stable within individuals. First, measuring oxytocin in unextracted samples has been postulated as potentially erroneous, given the high risk of contamination with immunoreactive products other than oxytocin(4). It is conceivable that these non-oxytocin immunoreactive products might constitute highly stable plasma housekeeping proteins (17) that masked the true variability in oxytocin concentrations. Second, a simple correlation analysis cannot provide information about the absolute agreement of two sets of measurements – which would be a more appropriate approach to study within-subject reliability/stability. Third, it is not clear whether these findings generalize beyond the early parenting(14) or early romantic(15) periods participants were in when the studies were conducted, since these periods engage the activity of the oxytocin system in particular ways(18). Hence, establishing the validity of salivary and plasmatic oxytocin as trait markers of the activity of the oxytocin system in humans remains as an unmet need. Such evidence is urgently required, given reports that plasma and saliva levels of oxytocin are frequently altered during neuropsychiatric illness and that they co-vary with clinical aspects of disease(13).

      Line 509 “Our findings were not consistent with these expectations. We could replicate previous evidence that intravenous oxytocin does not increase salivary oxytocin(3) and extended it by showing that the lack of increase in salivary oxytocin is not limited to the specific low dose of intravenous OT that was previously used (1IU) and that it is not driven by the insufficient sensitivity of the OT measurement method (which had resulted in more than 50% of the saliva samples being discarded in the previous study(3).”*

      2) As authors discussed in the limitation section of discussion, the current study has several limitations such as analyses only in male participants and non-optimized timing of collection of saliva and blood due to the other experiments. These limitations are understandable, because the current study was the second analyses on the data of the other studies with the different aims. However, these limitations significantly limit the interpretations of the findings.

      Here, we would like to highlight two aspects. First, most studies in the field are indeed conducted in men to avoid potential confounding from fluctuations in oxytocin concentrations across the menstrual cycle in women. Therefore, our study is representative of the typical samples used in most human studies. Second, we did not optimize our study to collect repeated samples of saliva. Indeed, it would have been interesting to describe the full-time course of variations of oxytocin concentrations in saliva after intranasal and intravenous administration. However, this does not detract the importance of our findings in respect to our first aim (which was our main goal).

      We agree with the reviewer though that it is at least theoretically possible that we could have missed the window for increases in salivary oxytocin after intravenous oxytocin if it existed, given that we only sampled one post-administration time-point. However, we believe this was unlikely for one reason. Despite the sustained increase (throughout the two-hour observation interval) in plasmatic oxytocin following the intravenous administration of oxytocin, we observed no increase in salivary oxytocin post-dosing (at ~115 min). Unless the half-life of oxytocin is shorter in saliva than in the blood (which we do not know yet), we expected the levels of salivary oxytocin to mirror the changes in plasma – potentially with a slight delay given the time that it might take for oxytocin concentrations to build up in saliva through ultrafiltration from the blood, but this was not the case. Most likely the half-life of oxytocin in the saliva is not shorter than in the blood, since a previous study found increased concentrations of oxytocin in saliva up to 7h after administration of intranasal oxytocin (as the reviewer pointed out below, in our study we no longer could detect significant increases in plasmatic oxytocin after the intranasal administration of 40 IU with two different methods at around 115 mins post-administration). Therefore, while we acknowledge these limitations we also believe they do not detract from the importance of our main findings and the potential they hold to influence the field towards a more rigorous use of these measurements. Please see below for the implemented changes in the text.

      Line 554 “It is possible that we may have missed peak increases in saliva oxytocin after the intravenous administration of exogenous oxytocin if they occurred between treatment administration and post-administration sampling. This is unlikely given that the dose we administered intravenously resulted in sustained increases in plasmatic oxytocin over the course of two hours. Unless the half-life of oxytocin in saliva is much shorter than in the plasma, it would be surprising to not find any increases in salivary oxytocin after intravenous oxytocin given that concentrations of oxytocin in the plasma were still elevated at the specific time-point of our second saliva sample. Currently, we have no estimate for the half-life of oxytocin in saliva; however, given that previous studies have found evidence of increased salivary oxytocin after single intranasal administrations of 16IU and 24IU oxytocin up to seven hours post-administration(19), it is unlikely that the half-life of oxytocin is shorter in the saliva than in the plasma.

      3) As reported in page 6, the dataset A comprises administrations approximately 40 IU of intranasal oxytocin and 10 IU on intravenous. The rationale to set these doses should be described. Since the 40IU is different from 24 IU which is employed in most of the previous publications in the research field, potential influence associated with the doses should be tested and discussed.

      Thank you for the opportunity to clarify this aspect of our work. With respect of our primary aims (to investigate whether single measurements of salivary and plasmatic oxytocin at baseline can be reliably measured within individuals across different days), the choice of doses is of course not relevant.

      With respect to our secondary aim, namely, to investigate whether salivary oxytocin can be used to index concentrations of oxytocin in the plasma, particularly after the administration of synthetic oxytocin using the intranasal and intravenous routes, the administered doses are relevant.

      The data reported here were collected as part of a larger project – which determined the choice of both intranasal and IV doses (2). As explained in our response to Reviewer 1, point 2, the selection 10IU (over 10min) was the highest intravenous dose that we could get permission to administer safely in healthy volunteers as a proof of concept, so as to achieve a robust and prolonged increase in plasmatic oxytocin over the course of our full testing session. In this manner, we demonstrate that even when plasmatic levels of OT are maintained substantially increased throughout the observation interval, we cannot detect increases in salivary oxytocin.

      Regarding the intranasal OT dose, it is worth noting that the 24 IU is indeed popular in oxytocin studies, but not exclusive, and generally the selection of dose in oxytocin studies has not been informed by detailed dose-response characterizations. Our choice of 40IU was made for the purposes of matching our previous work on the pharmacodynamics of OT in healthy volunteers(20), and is a dose we (21-29) and others (e.g. (30)) have commonly used with patients.

      A potentially important implication if dose variations also imply variation in the total volume of liquid administered (as is usually the case with standard nasal sprays – but not with the nebuliser), then it is likely that the potential for drip-down might increase for higher volumes and decrease for lower volumes. As far as we know, no study has ever investigated the impact of administered volume on salivary oxytocin after the intranasal administration of synthetic oxytocin, but we agree this would be an important point to look at. We have now expanded our discussion to accommodate this point.

      Line 519 “We expect this phenomenon to be particularly pronounced for higher administered volumes. Further studies should examine the impact of different administered volumes on increases in salivary oxytocin.”

      4) It is difficult to understand that no significant elevations in plasma oxytocin levels were observed after intranasal spray or nebuliser of oxytocin. From figure 4A, the differences between levels at baseline and post administration are similar between nebuliser, spray, and placebo. Please discuss the potential interpretation on this result.

      The plasmatic concentrations of oxytocin we report in this study refer solely to the samples acquired at around 2h after the administration of intranasal oxytocin. We reported the full-time course of changes in plasmatic oxytocin in a paper published earlier this year(2) – which we now refer the reader to. We did find increases in plasmatic oxytocin after administration of oxytocin with the spray and nebuliser (around 3x the baseline concentrations) that did not differ between intranasal methods of administration. Plasmatic oxytocin reached a peak within 15 mins from the end of the intranasal administrations. Given the short half-life of oxytocin in the plasma, we believe it is not surprising that at 115 mins after the end of our last treatment administration the concentrations of oxytocin in the plasma are no longer different from the placebo condition.

      Line 166 “The full time course of changes in plasmatic oxytocin after the administration of intranasal and intravenous oxytocin in this study has been reported elsewhere(2).”

      5) In page 12, the reason why not to employ any correction for multiple comparisons in the statistical analyses should be clarified.

      We apologize that this was not sufficiently clear, but we did correct for multiple testing using the Tukey procedure in our analyses investigating the effects of treatment on salivary and plasmatic oxytocin (this was described in page 9 – Treatment effects). If the reviewer meant something else, we would be glad to follow any further advice on multiple testing correction he/she might have.

      Line 250 “Treatment effects: The effect of treatment on blood/saliva oxytocin concentration were assessed using a 4 x 2 repeated-measures two-way analysis of variance Treatment (four levels: Spray, Nebuliser, Intravenous and Placebo) x Time (two levels: Baseline and post-administration). Post-hoc comparisons to clarify a significant interaction were corrected for multiple comparisons following the Tukey procedure.

      Reviewer #3:

      In the current study, baseline samples of salivary and plasma oxytocin were assessed in 13, respectively, 16 participants, to assess intra-individual reliability across four time points (separated by approximately 8 days). The main results indicate that, while as a group, average salivary and plasma samples were not significantly different across time points, within-subject coefficient of variation (CV) and intra-class correlation coefficient (ICC) showed poor absolute and relative reliability of plasma and salivary oxytocin measurements over time. Also no association was established between plasma and salivary levels, either at baseline or after administration of oxytocin (either intranasally, or intravenously). Further, salivary/ plasma oxytocin was only enhanced after intranasal, respectively intravenous administration.

      The study addresses an important topic and the paper is clearly written. While the overall multi-session design seems solid, sample collections were performed in the context of larger projects and therefore there appear to be several limitations that reduce the robustness of the presented results and consequently the formulated conclusions.

      General comments

      1) A main conclusion of the current work is that 'single measures of baseline oxytocin concentrations in saliva and plasma are not stable within the same individual'. It seems however that the study did not adhere to a sufficiently rigorous approach to put forward this conclusion. It lacks a control for several important factors, such as timing of the day at which saliva/ plasma samples were obtained, as well as sample volume. Particularly while it is indicated that all visits were identical in structure, important information is missing with regard to whether or not sampling took place consistently at a particular point of time each day, to minimize the influence of circadian rhythm. Without this information it is not possible to draw any firm conclusions on the nature of the intra-individual variability as demonstrated in the salivary and plasma sampling.

      Thanks for pointing this out. Indeed, we were not sufficiently explicit on how strict we were in controlling for some potential sources of variability that could have contributed to the lack of reliability we report here. Our data was acquired in the context of two human pharmacological studies, which by design were strict on a number of aspects to minimize unwarranted noise. All participants were tested in the same period of the day (morning) to avoid the potential contribution of circadian fluctuations of oxytocin. In dataset A, we tried, as much as possible, to match the exact time participants were tested between visits, using the start time of the first visit as a reference. With the exception of one participant, where one session was conduct 1h and 30 mins later than the other three, all the remaining participants from study A were tested within 1h of the exact start time of session 1. Further, we also instructed participants to abstain from alcohol and heavy exercise for 24 h and from any beverage or food for 2 h before scanning. Hence, we believe our sampling protocol was strict enough to discard any potential contribution of major known sources of variability in oxytocin levels.

      The reviewer also inquiries about the volume of the samples. For the plasma samples, we used a standardized protocol and collected the same blood volume in all participants, visits and time-points (1 EDTA tube of approximately 4 ml). The saliva samples were collected using Salivettes. Participants were instructed to place the swab from the Salivette kit in their mouth and chew it gently for 1 min to soak as much saliva as possible. After this, the swab was then returned back to the Salivette and centrifuged. In both cases, to avoid degradation of the peptide in the collected sample, we followed a strict protocol where all samples were put immediately in iced water until centrifugation, which happened within 20 mins of sample collection. Samples were then immediately stored at -80C until analysis. Hence, differences in degradation of the peptide related to the processing of the sample are also unlikely to justify the poor reliabilities we report here.

      For completeness, we have now added all of these further details to our Methods section.

      Line 169 “**All visits were conducted during the morning to avoid the potential confounding of circadian variations in oxytocin levels(31, 32). In addition, we also made sure that each participant was tested at approximately the same time across all four visits (all participants were tested in sessions with less than one hour difference in their onset time, except for one participant where the difference in the onset of one session compared to the other three sessions was 1.5h). “*

      Line 192 “Blood was collected in ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid vacutainers (Kabe EDTA tubes 078001), placed in iced water and centrifuged at 1300 × g for 10 minutes at 4°C within 20 minutes of collection and then immediately pipetted into Eppendorf vials. Samples were immediately stored -80C until analysis. Saliva samples were collected using a salivette (Sarstedt 51.1534.500). Participants were instructed to place the swab from the Salivette kit in their mouth and chew it gently for 1 min to soak as much saliva as possible. After this, the swab was then returned back to the Salivette, centrifuged and stored in the same manner as blood samples. For both saliva and plasma, we stored the samples in aliquots of 0.5 ml, following the RIAgnosis standard operating procedures. We followed this strict protocol, putting all samples in iced water until centrifugation with immediate storage at -80C until analysis to minimize the impact putative differences in degradation of the peptide related to differences in the processing of the samples might have on the reliability of the estimated concentrations of oxytocin.” *

      Correspondingly, a deeper discussion is needed on the reason why ICC's were considerably variable across pairs of assessment sessions, with some pairs yielding good reliability, whereas others yielded (very) poor reliability.

      Currently we have no insightful hypothesis on why this could have been the case. Indeed, we found higher ICCs for only 2 out of 6 pairs of visits for the plasma. However, it is plausible that this might have occurred by chance. In any case, we should note that the 95% confidence intervals for the ICCs of our different pairs of samples overlap; this suggests that there is no evidence that the ICCs we estimated for the specific two pairs where we found higher reliabilities are significantly higher than those observed in the remaining pairs.

      Line 431 “If there are specific reasons explaining the higher reliability indices observed for the specific pairs of sessions, these reasons remain to be elucidated. However, it is not implausible that we might have found higher reliabilities for these specific two pairs by chance, since the 95% confidence intervals for the ICCs for all pairs of samples overlapped.

      More detailed descriptions regarding sampling procedures (timing and sampling intervals) are necessary. Also, more information is needed on the volume of saliva collected at each session, to control for possible dilution effects.

      This information has been added to the revised version of the manuscript (please see response to your point number 1). As a further clarification, oxytocin concentrations were measured in plasma and saliva aliquots of 0.5 ml, following the standard operating procedures of RIAgnosis. This volume was used for all participants, sessions and time-points. Furthermore, for measuring cortisol, the salivettes were shown to allow for an almost 100% recovery, regardless of cortisol concentration, volume of the sample or method of quantification(33), suggesting that the sampling method is robust.

      2) It is indicated that the initial sample would allow to detect intra-class correlation coefficients (ICC) of at least 0.70 (moderate reliability) with 80% of power. Is this still the case after the drop-outs/ outlier removals? Since the main conclusions of the work rely on negative results (conclusions drawn from failures to reject the null hypothesis) it is important to establish the risk for false negatives within a design that is possibly underpowered.

      We understand the concern of the reviewer. However, according to the power calculations provided by Bujang and Baharum, 2017(34), the four repeated samples we collected in Dataset A would have allowed us to detect an ICC of 0.5 with 80% of statistical power even with only 13 subjects (which is the lowest sample size we used for the analysis on saliva in dataset A). The two samples we collected in Dataset B would allow us to detect an ICC of 0.6 with 80% of statistical power even with only 19 subjects. Hence, both datasets were powered to detect an ICC of 0.7 with acceptable power, if it existed, even after the exclusion of outliers.

      3) Did the authors also assess within-session reliability? For example, by assessing ICC between pre and post-measurements in the placebo session.

      Thanks for the suggestion. Indeed, we had not performed this analysis before but we agree it would be informative. We calculated the ICC and CV for the two samples acquired before any treatment administration and the intravenous infusion of saline during the placebo session. These samples where acquired with an approximate 15 min interval in between them. In this analysis, we found that the ICC was excellent 0.92 and the CV 20%. This additional analysis strengthens our findings by supporting the idea that our poor reliabilities across different days reflect true biological variability and cannot be attributed to measurement error. These new findings have now been included in the revised version of the manuscript.

      Abstract

      Line 44 "Results: Single measurements of plasmatic and salivary oxytocin showed poor reliability across visits in both datasets. The reliability was excellent when samples were collected within 15 minutes from each other in the placebo visit.”

      Line 240 “Within-visit reliability analysis: To investigate the reliability of salivary and plasmatic oxytocin concentration within the same visit, we calculated the ICC and CV as described above for two samples acquired before any treatment administration and the intravenous infusion of saline during the placebo session. These samples where acquired with an approximate 15 minutes interval in between them.

      Line 405 “Furthermore, in a further analysis assessing the within-session stability of plasmatic oxytocin using two measurements collected 15 minutes apart from each other in the placebo visit (one sample collected at baseline and the other after the intravenous administration of saline), we found excellent within-session reliability (ICC=0.92, CV=20%). Together, this suggests that the low reliability of endogenous oxytocin measurements across visits in the current study results from true intrinsic individual biological variability and not technical variability/error in the method used for oxytocin quantification.“*

      4) It is indicated that the intra-assay variability of the adopted radioimmunoassay constitutes <10%. Were analyses of the current study run on duplicate samples? Was intra-assay variability assessed directly within the current sample?

      We reported the intra-assay variability determined by RIAgnosis during the development of this assay(35). This was not specifically assessed for the current study.

      Introduction & Discussion

      5) The introduction and discussion is missing a thorough overview of previous studies assessing intra-individual variability in oxytocin levels.

      Thanks for the suggestion. We have now included in our introduction/discussion an overview of previous studies attempting to tackle this question, which unfortunately do not address this question with sufficient detail or using the appropriate methods and statistical analyses (see response to Reviewer 2, point 1). Hence, from the available evidence, it is not possible to draw robust conclusions about the validity of concentrations of oxytocin in saliva and plasma as valid trait markers of the activity of the oxytocin system. With this manuscript, we hope we can prompt further discussion and guide the field towards a more rigorous use of these measurements. A thorough discussion of this literature has now been added to the Introduction and Discussion.

      Line 434 “Our observation of poor reliability questions the use of single measurements of baseline oxytocin concentrations in saliva and plasma as valid trait markers of the physiology of the oxytocin system in humans. Instead, we suggest that, at best, these measurements can provide reliable state markers within short time-intervals (5 mins in our study). Our data does not support previous claims of high stability of plasmatic and salivary oxytocin within individuals over time. For instance, in one study, Feldman et al. (2013) assessed plasmatic oxytocin in recent mothers and fathers at two time-points spaced six months apart during the postpartum period. The authors found strong correlations between the two assessments for both mothers and fathers(14). In another study, Schneiderman et al. (2012) found strong correlations between plasmatic oxytocin concentrations measured at two different instances spaced six months apart in both single and individuals recently involved in a new romantic relationship(15). Two important differences between these studies and ours are i) the method used for oxytocin quantification, and ii) the particular states participants were in when the studies were conducted. Regarding the first difference, these previous studies used ELISA without extraction, reporting concentrations of plasmatic oxytocin well above the typical physiological range of 1-10 pg/ml detected in extracted samples (in their studies, the authors report concentrations above 200 pg/ml). The inclusion of extraction has been postulated as a critical step for obtaining valid measures of oxytocin in biological fluids(4). Unextracted samples were shown to contain immunoreactive products other than oxytocin(4), which contribute largely to the concentrations of oxytocin estimated by this method. It is possible that these non-oxytocin products might represent highly stable plasma housekeeping molecules(17) that masked the true biological variability in oxytocin concentrations between assessments in these previous studies that we could detect in extracted samples in our study. Regarding the second difference, these previous studies on within-individual stability were conducted during the early parenting(14) or early romantic(15) periods, which engage the activity of the oxytocin system in particular ways(18). Instead, we used a normative sample that did not specify these inclusion criteria. Hence, we cannot exclude that during these specific periods the reliability of salivary and plasmatic oxytocin concentrations might be higher. We note though that our sample more closely resembles the samples used the vast majority of studies in the field (which sometimes even exclude participants during early parenthood(36)). Hence, our estimates of reliability are a better starter point for all studies where specific circumstances potentially affecting the activity of the oxytocin system have not been specified a priori.

      6) The paper misses a discussion of previous studies addressing links between salivary/ plasma levels and central oxytocin (e.g. in cerebrospinal fluid). I understand the claim that salivary oxytocin cannot be used to form an estimate of systemic absorption, although technically, a lack of a link between salivary and plasma levels, does not necessarily imply a lack of a relationship to e.g. central levels. The lack of effect is limited to this specific relationship.

      In this study, we did not intend to investigate whether salivary and plasmatic oxytocin are valid proxies for the activity of the oxytocin system in the brain. Our data does not address that question and a thorough discussion of these studies falls, in our opinion, out of the scope of the manuscript. Instead, we focused on whether measurements of oxytocin in saliva and plasma (by far the most commonly used biological fluids to measure oxytocin) are sufficiently stable to provide valid indicators of the physiology of the oxytocin system in humans. Additionally, we also investigated whether salivary oxytocin can index plasmatic oxytocin at baseline and after the administration of synthetic oxytocin using different routes of administration.

      A previous meta-analysis of studies correlating peripheral and CSF measurements of oxytocin has shown that most likely peripheral and CSF measurements do not correlate at baseline; significant correlations could be found after intranasal administration of oxytocin or specific experimental manipulations, such as stress(37). We believe that currently we still do not have a clear answer about the extent to which these peripheral fluids can actually index oxytocin concentrations in the brain (even if associations with CSF are evident in specific instances). For instance, no study has ever shown that CSF oxytocin actually predicts the concentrations of oxytocin in the extracellular fluid of the brain. Given what we currently know about the synaptic release of oxytocin in the brain(38) (in contrast with former theories of exclusive bulk diffusion in the CSF(39)), we think we have good reasons to suspect this might not be the case.

      The only contribution our study can make in that respect is highlighting our current lack of understanding of how oxytocin reaches saliva if not from the blood. Currently there is no evidence of direct secretion of oxytocin to the saliva (not from acinar secretion or nerve terminals release). Hence, as it stands, the most likely mechanism for oxytocin to entry the saliva is from the blood (for instance, by ultrafiltration). If increases in plasmatic oxytocin after intravenous oxytocin cannot produce any significant increases in salivary oxytocin (shown in ours and in a previous study), how does oxytocin reach the saliva and why might it be able to predict concentrations in the CSF, if it does? In this respect, we hope our study highlights the need for further research shedding light on the mechanisms underlying these potential saliva – CSF relationships, if they exist. We would be glad to accommodate any other hypothesis the reviewer might have on this respect.

      Line 522 “The lack of increase in salivary oxytocin after the intravenous administration of exogenous oxytocin that was consistently found in our study and in a previous study(3) also raises the question of how oxytocin reaches the saliva if not from the blood. Currently there is no evidence of direct acinar secretion or direct nerve terminals release of oxytocin to the saliva; therefore, transport from the blood remains as the most plausible mechanism of appearance of oxytocin in the saliva. Clarifying these mechanisms of transport is paramount, given the current hypothesis that salivary oxytocin might be superior to plasma in indexing central levels of oxytocin in the CSF(40).

      Methods

      7) Related to the general comment, the variability in days between sessions is relatively high (average 8.80 days apart (SD 5.72; range 3-28). However, it appears that no explicit measures were taken to control the conducted analyses for this variability.

      Thanks for point this out. Indeed, we were not sufficiently thorough in exploring the impact of this potential variability in the time gap between visits on our estimated ICCs. Thanks to the reviewer we now acknowledged this limitation of our analysis and decided to explore this further. We decided to run the following sensitivity analysis. First, we went back to our dataset A and identified all pairs of consecutive measures that were collected with an exact time interval of 7 days between visits. We could retrieve 15 examples of these pairs from 15 different participants for both saliva and plasma. Then, we recalculated the ICC and CV on this subset of our initial sample. In line with our main analysis, we found poor reliabilities for both salivary and plasmatic oxytocin; in both cases the ICCs were not significantly different from 0 and the CVs were 49% and 40%, respectively. This further analysis has been added to the revised version of the manuscript. We hope the reviewer shares our vision that our main conclusion of poor reliabilities of single measurements of baseline oxytocin in saliva and plasma cannot be simply attributed to the variability in the number of days between visits.

      Line 229 “Since there was considerable variability in the time-interval between visits across participants, we conducted a sensitivity analysis where we repeated our reliability analysis focusing on 15 pairs of consecutive measures that were collected with an exact time interval of 7 days between visits in 15 participants. Here, we recalculated the ICC and CV on this subset of our initial sample, using the approach described above.

      Line 399 “These poor reliabilities are unlikely to be explained by variability in the time-interval between visits of the same individual, since we also found poor reliability indexes for both saliva and plasma when we restricted our analysis to a subset of our sample controlling for the exact number of days spacing visits.”*

      8) A rationale for the adopted dosing and timing (115 min post administration) of the sample extraction is missing. Additionally, it seems that intravenous administrations were always given second, whereas intranasal administrations were given third, with a small delay of approximately 5 min. Hence, it seems that the timing of 115 min post-administration is only accurate for the intranasal administration.

      We collected saliva samples before any treatment administration and after the end of our scanning session (collection of saliva samples in between was just not possible because the participants were inside the MRI machine and could not have moved their heads). For the plasma, we collected samples before any treatment administration, after each treatment administration and at other five time-points during the scanning session. Here, we only report the plasma data that was acquired concomitantly with the saliva samples (the full-time course of plasma changes in plasmatic oxytocin has been reported elsewhere(2)). In the manuscript, we report post-administration times from the end of the full treatment administration protocol. Hence, as the reviewer highlights our post-administration sample was collected at around 115 mins from the last intranasal administration and 120 mins from the end of the intravenous administration. We have now made this aspect explicit in the revised version of the manuscript.

      Line 162 “For the purposes of this report, we use the plasmatic and salivary oxytocin measurements that were obtained at baseline and at 115 minutes after the end of our last treatment administration (this means that our post-administration samples were collected 115 mins after the intranasal administrations and 120 mins after the intravenous administration of oxytocin).

      9) Since the ICC of baseline samples showed poor reliability, it seems suboptimal to pool across sessions for assessing the relationship between salivary and blood measurements. It should be possible to perform e.g. partial correlations on the actual scores, thereby correcting for the repeated measure (subject ID). Further, since the sample size is relatively small (13 subjects), it might be recommended to use non-parametric (e.g. Spearmann correlations) instead of Pearson. The additional reporting of the Bayes factor is appreciated; it is very informative.

      Thanks for the suggestion. In fact, for the correlation the reviewer mentions we indeed used a multilevel approach where we specified subject as a random effect (please see pages 9-10). This allowed us to deal with the dependence of measurements coming from the same subject in different visits. Furthermore, since we also had concerns about the sample size, we calculated Pearson correlations but used bootstrapping (1000 samples) to obtain the 95% confidence intervals and assess significance. Bootstrapping is a robust statistical technique which allows significance testing independently of any assumptions about the distribution of the data and is robust to outliers. Please see page 12 of the manuscript, section “Association between salivary and plasmatic oxytocin levels”.

      10) Now, the authors only compared relationships between salivary and plasma levels, either at baseline or post administration. I'm wondering whether it would be interesting to explore relationships between pre-to-post change scores in salivary versus plasma measures.

      Thanks for the suggestion. We have now conducted this further analysis and we could not find any significant correlation between changes from baseline to post-administration in any of our treatment conditions. As for our other correlation analyses, here we also conducted Bayesian inference, which supported the idea that the null hypothesis of no significant correlation between changes in saliva and plasma from baseline to post-administration is at least 4x more likely than the alternative hypothesis. This further analysis strengthens our confidence that changes in salivary oxytocin after administration of oxytocin using the intranasal and intravenous routes should not be used to predict systemic absorption to the plasma.

      Line 260 “*As a final sanity check, we also investigated correlations between the changes from baseline to post-administration in saliva and plasma in each of our treatment conditions separately.

      Line 485 “Furthermore, we could not find any significant correlation between changes in salivary or plasmatic oxytocin from baseline to 115 mins after the end of our last treatment administration in any of our four treatment conditions. The lack of significant associations between salivary and plasmatic oxytocin (and respective changes from baseline) was further supported through our Bayesian analyses which demonstrated that given our data the null hypotheses were at least three times more likely than the alternative hypothesis.”*

      11) Please provide more information on the outlier detection procedure (outlier labelling rule).

      This information has now been added to the revised version of the manuscript.

      Line 271 “Outliers were identified using the outlier labelling rule(41); this means that a data point was identified as an outlier if it was more than 1.5 x interquartile range above the third quartile or below the first quartile.”*

      12) Please indicate how deviations from a Gaussian distribution were assessed.

      We used the combined assessment of i) differences between mean and median; ii) skewness and kurtosis; iii) histogram; iv) Q-Q plots; and v) the Kolmogorov-Smirnov and Shapiro-Wilk normality tests. Deviations from a normal distribution is common in the concentration of several analytes in the saliva (42), including oxytocin (15); hence, following the current recommendations, we used log transformations of the raw concentrations but plot the raw concentrations to facilitate the interpretation of our plots.

      Results

      13) Please verify the degrees of freedom for the post-hoc tests performed to assess pre-post changes at each treatment level (e.g. baseline vs Post administration: Spray - t(122) = 7.06, p < 0.001) . Why is this 122? Shouldn't this be a simple paired-sample t-test with 13 subjects?

      We apologize for this oversight. Indeed, we did a mistake in copying the values of the degrees of freedom from SPSS. We have now corrected these values. All the other p-values and F or T values were reported correctly and hence are not changed in the revised version of the manuscript (please see also response to Reviewer 1, question 4 regarding inconsistencies in the reported p-values).

    1. It is a paradox that enslaved women were the foundation of women’s health care, but black women are still dying at the hands of their doctors.

      This line hit me so hard. They used black women but won't even let black women have access to what they were used for. It's really horrible and its not surprising that black women don't trust the healthcare system since there's still some really racist people in this world who would still be willing to do some pretty horrible things or just not properly treat black women.

    1. Would they react the same way if reaching into the discount rack at Marshalls offered the same sensory experience?

      It's almost like the act of buying the object itself is more important than the object. There is something that just feels so premium about purchasing clothes at a Gucci store as opposed to a discount rack.

    1. He offered them to Hennie. Hennie gave me a swift look—it must have been satisfactory—for he took a chocolate cream, a coffee eclair, a meringue stuffed with chestnut and a tiny horn filled with fresh strawberries. She could hardly bear to watch him. But just as the boy swerved away she held up her plate.

      Food seems to be a theme in Mansfield work. In Colonels, the garden party, the young girl, and marraige a la mode, food plays an important role in character development. I think it's partially due to Mansfield's focus on realism. What is strange about it is that In three of these stories, the main characters seem to have an aversion to overeating, or a generaly adverse relationship to food, and/or the manners of others. Judging from this 4 story sample size, manners seem to play an important part in Mansfield's stories.

    2. I’ll remember it again after the party’s over, she decided. And somehow that seemed quite the best plan...

      The use of the word quite again--it's like nothing is real, or embodied. There is a lot of flighty language and flighty characters, 'Laura flew' 'butterfly' descriptions of air, and wind, and puffs, and angels--nothing feels grounded. The characters and the place feel like they could just be blown away like dead dandelion puffs.

    3. I'm just putting this at the end because it's a commentary on the whole thing - I think that the way this short story keeps drifting into the past, exploring really intense feelings through super mundane things, and ultimately arrives at a point where neither of the characters can remember what they wanted to say about the future is so brilliant and really accurately captures the sort of haze and estrangement from reality that comes with grief, especially if there are complexities in that grief like there are in the sisters' occasional relief that their (likely abusive) father is gone.

    4. What did it mean? What was it she was always wanting? What did it all lead to? Now? Now?

      This moment reminds me of the end of The Garden Party where Laura tries to explain that she has just confronted mortality and can't find any words. Similarly to Laura, I think that Constantia witnessing death in this way is causing her to recognize her own mortality, but rather than be awestruck by it, it's sending her into an existential crisis.

    1. Author Response

      We thank the Editor of eLife f or kindly considering our manuscript for publication and for soliciting three peer reviews. We note that the reviews were positive for the most part. We sincerely believe that the key criticisms arise regrettably from a seeming misunderstanding of the motivation and context of our work – one that we hoped was a candid presentation of available data for tarantulas and the methods used. We provide detailed responses to the reviewers’ concerns below. We further note that our manuscript has since been published with minimal changes (Foley et al. 2020 Proceedings of the Royal Society B 287: 20201688, doi:10.1098/rspb.2020.1688).

      Tarantulas belong to an enigmatic and charismatic group with a nearly cosmopolitan distribution and intriguingly show vivid coloration despite being mostly nocturnal/ crepuscular. Using a robust phylogeny based on a comprehensive transcriptomic dataset that includes nearly all theraphosid subfamilies (except Selenogyrinae), we performed both discrete and continuous ancestral state reconstructions of blue and green coloration in tarantulas using modern phylogenetic methods. Using phylogenetic correlation tests, we evaluated various possible functions for blue and green coloration, for instance aposematism and crypsis. Our results suggest green coloration is likely used in crypsis, while blue (and green) coloration show no correlation with urtication, stridulation or arboreality. Our findings also support a single ancestral origin of blue in tarantulas with losses being more frequent than gains, while green color has evolved multiple independent times but never lost. We comparatively assessed opsin expression from the transcriptomic data across tarantulas to understand the functional significance of blue and green coloration. Our opsin homolog network shows that tarantulas possess a rather diverse suite of regular arthropod opsins than previously appreciated.

      While color vision in (jumping) spiders is relatively well studied, to the best of our knowledge, this is the first study to comparatively consider the identity of opsin expression across tarantulas, and in relation to the evolution of coloration. Our study challenges current belief (e.g., Morehouse et al. 2017 doi: 10.1086/693977 and references therein; Hsiung et al. 2015 doi: 10.1126/sciadv.1500709) that tarantulas are incapable of perceiving colors, at least from a molecular perspective and suggests a role for sexual selection in their evolution. This also adds to the growing body of knowledge on the complexity of arthropod visual systems (e.g., see Futahashi et al. 2015 doi:10.1073/pnas.1424670112, Hill et al. 2002 doi:10.1126/science.1076196).

      In short, we believe our results are timely and pertinent broadly to sensory biologists, behavioural ecologists and evolutionary biologists as it is an exhortation for sorely needed behavioural and sensory experiments to understand proximate use of vivid coloration in this enigmatic group.

      Summary:

      This study offers some interesting data and ideas on colour evolution in tarantulas, building upon previous work on this topic. However, the reviewers judged that the insights are too taxon-specific and that several key conclusions are too speculative. There were also concerns about the methodology for trait scoring from photographs that the authors might consider going forward.

      Reviewer #1:

      This study investigates the evolution of blue and green setae colouration in tarantulas using phylogenetic analyses and trait values calculated from photographs. It argues that (i) green colouration has evolved in association with arboreality, and thus crypsis, and (ii) blue colouration is an ancestral trait lost and gained several times in tarantula evolution, possibly under sexual selection. It also uses transcriptome data to identify opsin homologs, as indirect evidence that tarantulas may have colour vision.

      Otherwise, a few comments:

      1) Given that data is limited for the family (only 25% of genera could be included in this study), it seemed a shame not to discuss further the variation in colour and habit within genera. Based on Figure 1 and supplementary tables, the majority of "blue" genera contain a mix of blue and not-blue (and not-photographed) species. Does this mean that blue has been lost many more times in recent evolutionary history? And how often are "losses" on your tree likely to be the result of insufficient sampling for the genus (i.e. you happen not to have sampled the blue species)?

      First, the taxa in our robust and well-resolved phylogeny are representative of the major lineages within Theraphosidae, i.e., we have sampled nearly all theraphosid subfamilies (except Selenogyrinae). Our ideal is also to work with a more complete genus-level molecular phylogeny and corresponding color dataset for theraphosidae. However, this group is generally not well represented in museum collections (let alone in digitized collections), while the pet trade is focussed on only a select number of taxa. While we appreciate the reviewer’s concern that adding more taxa and corresponding data could potentially change the results, we believe that with a strong backbone phylogeny recovering the major branches, the results should not change all that much (For instance, cf. Hackett et al. 2008 10.1126/science.1157704 vs. Prum et al. 2016 10.1038/nature19417, where the initial Hackett et al. backbone is robust to increased sampling). Although the way trait losses are concentrated towards the tip suggests that using a genus-level phylogeny would perhaps show a few more recent trait losses, but unlikely to contradict an ancient origin of blue coloration at the base of this group, especially given the way the outgroups are polarized (i.e., outgroups also exhibit blue).

      2) A key conclusion of the study is that sexual selection should not be discarded as a possible explanation for spider colour. However, there is very little detail given in the discussion to build this case. Do these spiders have mating displays that might plausibly include visual signals? How common are sexually-selected colours in spiders generally? Where on the body is the blue coloration (in cases where it is not whole body)? I also missed whether the images used are of males or females or both, or how many species show sexual dimorphism in colouration (mentioned briefly in the Discussion, but not summarised for species or genera).

      We agree with the reviewer that we should have provided more information regarding sexual dichromatism in tarantulas, and on the images we used in the study (whether male/female). However, the location of blue coloration varies wildly with species – some species have blue chelicerae, blue abdomens, or blue carapaces while others are entirely blue. We also know very little about mating (and selection, if any) strategies in tarantulas, let alone the sensory ecology of this group. However, there is intriguing anecdotal information from one species (Aphonopelma) that they can be active as early as 4pm (Shillington 2002 Canadian J. Zoology, 80: 251-259, doi: 10.1139/z01-227), while some species show an intensification of color upon maturation, often a hallmark of sexual selection. Indeed, we believe that our work will incite broad interest on these intriguing questions.

      3) A quick scroll through the amazing images on Rick West's site suggests that oranges and red/pinks are not rare in tarantulas. Perhaps the data is just not available, but it would be good to mention somewhere the rationale behind the blue/green focus, rather than examining all colours.

      We agree. However, in the present study, we focused on blue and green colors because the data is readily available and we wanted to build upon the previous work by Hsiung et al 2015. Given that violet/blue and likely also some green coloration are structural in origin (Saranathan et al. 2015 Nano Letters, doi: 10.1021/acs.nanolett.5b0020; Hsiung et al. 2015), these hues are unlikely to fade or vary between individuals unlike diet acquired pigmentary coloration. Hence, these colors perhaps better lend themselves to analyses using digital photographs.

      I suggest defining stridulating / urticating setae for non-specialist readers. I had to look these up to understand that they were involved in defence.

      We thank the reviewer for this suggestion.

      I notice the Rick West website says species IDs should not be made from photos alone. Is there a risk of misidentification for any photos?

      We understand the reviewer’s concern. However, Rick West is an experienced arachnologist and quite knowledgeable in tarantula systematics and taxonomy (see https://www.tarantupedia.com/researchers/rick-c-west), which is why we endeavoured to use his website as extensively as possible without resorting to photos from hobbyists. We further validated the IDs with field guides, when in doubt.

      The Results section would benefit from some more clear statements of key results. For example, phrases like "AIC values to assess the relationships between greenness and arboreality are reported in Table 3" could be replaced instead with a summary statement indicating what this table shows.

      We agree and thank the reviewer for this suggestion.

      In the Figure 1 caption I think there is a typo: 'the proportions of species with images that possess blue colouration (grey = no available images)" but should this say "grey = not blue"?

      We apologize for the confusion. This is not a typo – this is in relation to Trichopelma, for which no images of described species were available, and so we cannot conclude that none of the taxa are blue/green.

      142 - the lengthy discussion here of whether there is one or more mechanisms by which blue is produced in tarantulas, and the detailed criticism of Hsuing SEMs, seems a bit out of place given that the current study does not investigate the proximate mechanism of blue colouration but merely its presence.

      We respectfully disagree. The core support for Hsiung et al.’s (2015) argument against sexual selection as a driver of color evolution in tarantulas comes from their structural diagnoses of the nanostructures responsible for the violet/blue structural coloration and their subsequent argument that a diversity of divergent nanostructures rather than convergence argues against sexual selection. While it is true that we did not investigate the proximate mechanism of blue coloration here, one of us (Saranathan et al. 2015) has already done so elsewhere. It appears that in insects and spiders, the bulk of the nanostructural diversity is across families and not within.

      Table S6 - It is not clear to me how the values for predicted N orthologs were calculated.

      This is mentioned in line 354 of our methods – “Per the ‘moderate’ criteria from the Alliance of Genome Resources (55), hits may be considered orthologous if three or more of the twelve tools in their suite converge upon that result”.

      The Table S7 caption states: "A * indicates currently undescribed species with blue or green colour that can be confidently attributed to corresponding genus. However, as the described species exhibit no blue or green colour, we conservatively scored these as 0." Is this a conservative approach though? If they have been confidently assigned to genus, I don't understand why they would not be included.

      This refers to the cases where a hitherto undescribed species possesses the blue or green color. However, even though the species has not formally been described, its placement in the genus is not in question. We have not included such undescribed species in our tabulated number of species per genus, as it is difficult to express any such undescribed species as a fraction of the total number of species in that genus.

      Reviewer #2:

      This paper presents a broad-ranging overview of tarantula visual pigments in relationship with the color of the spiders. The paper is interesting, well-written and presented, and will inspire further study into the visual and spectral characteristics of the genus.

      We thank the reviewer for her/his/their kind words.

      First a minor remark, Terakita and many others distinguish between opsin, being the protein part of the visual pigment molecule and intact light-sensing, so-called opsin-based pigment, often generalized as a rhodopsin. The statement of line 65, 'convert light photons to electrochemical signals through a signalling cascade' is according to that view strictly not correct. Furthermore, the presence of opsins in transcriptomes may be telling, but it is not at all sure that they are expressed in the eyes, if at all. As the authors well know, in many animal species some of the opsins are expressed elsewhere. It may be informative to mention that.

      We thank the reviewer for this clarification. As for the regions of opsin expression, we very much agree – were it not for constraints of sample availability, we would also have preferred to sequence only the eyes and brain of various tarantulas that were all exposed to similar lighting conditions. However, we encouragingly see that our “leg only” transcriptomes have far fewer (often no) opsins as compared to the whole-body data.

      The blueness or greenness feature prominently in the paper, but the criteria used for determining to which class a spider belongs are not at all sure. The Color Survey and Supplementary Table S2 refer to Birdspiders.com, but that requires a donation; not very welcoming. The other used sources are also not readily giving the insight or overview which material was sampled. I therefore think that the paper would considerably gain in palatability by adding a few exemplary photographs as well as measured spectra. Of course, I am inclined to trust the authors, but I would not immediately take color photographs from the web as the best material for assessing color data with 4-digit accuracy. Furthermore, the accessible photographs do not always show nice, uniform colors, so it might be sensible to mention which body part was used to score the animals. And finally, using CIE metric might infer to many readers that the spiders are presumably trichromatic, like us. Any further evidence?

      We refer to the detailed description of our method for scoring blue or green coloration in tarantulas (l. 277-303). Briefly, we calculated ΔE (CIE 1976) difference values using between the images of each taxa against a suitable reference (average of green leaves, or Haplopelma lividum, the bluest taxa in our survey based on the b value of its images). We use the ΔE Lab values to perform quantitative ancestral state reconstruction, while we use ΔE b (for blue) and ΔE a (for green) to discretize the data for understanding trait gains and losses.

      BirdSpiders.com only requires one to enter names of genera as search terms in order to see photos that we used. However, we agree could have provided some photos of exemplars. We do realise that using pictures is not ideal, as opposed to reflectance spectrophotometry (our ideal as well), which is why we limited ourselves to a single reputable source (BirdSpiders.com) for consistent images, whenever possible. However, acquiring sample material and reflectance of tarantulas is challenging. This group is generally not well represented in museum collections (let along in digitized collections), while the pet trade is focussed on only a select number of taxa and doing field work to collect specimens is fraught with moral and ethical issues (e.g., see https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/science/poaching-wildlife-scientists.html). This study nevertheless represents a substantial improvement upon a recent high-profile work that used the OSX “color picker” function (Hsiung et al. 2015).

      Indeed, available evidence on tarantula vision (including our opsin sequences) suggests tarantulas are likely trichromats (Dahl and Granda 1989 J. Arachnol., Morehouse et al. 2017) similar to jumping spiders (e.g., Zurek et al. 2015, doi: 10.1016/j.cub.2015.03.033), so we consider CIE as an appropriate color space for a putative tristimulus system in tarantulas (see also our response to Reviewer 3). Again, this underscores the need for future studies on the sensory biology and psychophysics of this enigmatic group.

      Reviewer #3:

      This neat paper continues the story of structural colour evolution in a group that is rarely appreciated for their ornamentation. The study uses colour & ecological data to model their evolution in a comparative framework, and also synthesises transcriptomic data to estimate the presence and diversity of opsins in the group. The main findings are that the tarantulas are ancestrally 'blue' and that green colouration has arisen repeatedly and seems to follow transitions to arboreality, along with evidence of perhaps underappreciated opsin diversity in the group. It's well-written and engaging, and a useful addition to our understanding of this developing story. I just have a few concerns around methods and the interpretation of results, however, which I feel need some further consideration.

      We thank the reviewer for his/her/their kind words.

      As the authors discuss in detail, this work in many ways parallels that of Hsiung et al. (2015). The two studies seem to agree in the broad-brush conclusions, which is interesting (and promising, for our understanding of the question), though their results conflict in significant ways too. Differences in methodology are an obvious cause, and they are particularly important in studies such as this in which the starting conditions (e.g. the assumed phylogeny or decisions around mapping of traits) so significantly shape outcomes. The current study uses a more recent and robust phylogeny, which is great, and the authors also emphasise their use of quantitative methods to assign colour traits (blue/green), unlike Hsiung et al.

      We thank the reviewer for his/her/their appreciation.

      1) This latter point is my main area of methodological concern, and I am not currently convinced that it is as useful or objective as is suggested. One issue is that the photographs are unstandardised in several dimensions, which will render the extracted values quite unreliable. I know the authors have considered this (as discussed in their supplement), but ultimately I don't believe you can reliably compare colour estimates from such diverse sources. Issues include non-standardised lighting conditions, alternate white-balancing algorithms, artefacts introduced through image compression, differences in the spectral sensitivities of camera models, no compensation for non-linear scaling of sensor outputs (which would again differ with camera models and even lenses), and so on (the works of Martin Stevens, Jolyon Troscianko, Jair Garcia, Adrian Dyer offer good discussion of these and related challenges). Some effort is made to minimise adverse effects, such as excluding the L dimension when calculating some colour distances, but even then the consequences are overstated since the outputs of camera sensors scale non-linearly with intensity, and so non-standardised lighting will still affect chromatic channels (a & b values). So with these factors at play, it becomes very difficult to know whether identified colour differences are a consequence of genuine differences in colouration, or simply differences in white balancing or some other feature of the photographs themselves.

      We thank the reviewer for his/her/their carefully considered thoughts and for drawing our attention to the work of Martin Stevens, Jolyon Troscianko, Jair Garcia, and Adrian Dyer in this regard (e.g. Stevens et al. 2007 Biol. J. Linn. Soc. Lond., doi: 10.1111/j.1095-8312.2007.00725.x). These are fair points raised by the reviewer. We are indeed aware that there are clear drawbacks in working solely with photographs from online sources as opposed to optical reflectance data (our ideal), but we are sure that the reviewer appreciates how challenging it is to source specimens of tarantulas. It is for this reason that we restricted ourselves to photographs from mostly only 1 reputable source (BirdSpiders.com). Furthermore, this is why we chose a perceptual model that permits device independent color representation, one that lets us separate chromatic variables from brightness, keeping in mind the underlying assumptions. However, some recent research suggests that CIELab space can perform reasonably well as compared to the latest algorithms for illuminant-invariant color spaces (Chong et al. 2008 ACM Transactions on Graphics, doi: 10.1145/1360612.1360660). Please also see our response below (to point #2) and also to Reviewer #2 above.

      Given the dearth of tarantula specimens and in the absence of spectrometry, future work will have to try and acquire uncompressed original images (with EXIF data) and could perform image processing such as homomorphic filtering and adaptive histogram equalization (Pizer et al. 1987 Computer Vision, Graphics, and Image Processing; Gonzalez and Woods 2018 Digital Image Processing, Pearson) in order to further mitigate artefacts such as those arising from differences in illumination, especially if using images from a diversity of sources.

      2) The justification for some related decisions are also unclear to me. The CIE-76 colour distance is used, and is described as 'conservative'. But it is not so much conservative as it is an inaccurate model of human colour sensation. It fails to account for perceptual non-uniformity and actually overestimates colour differences between highly chromatic colours (like saturated blues). The authors note they preferred this to CIE-2000, which is a much better measure in terms of accuracy, because the latter was too permissive (line 300). I understand the problem, and appreciate their honesty, but this decision seems very arbitrary. If the goal is to quantitatively estimate colour differences according to human viewers, then the metric which best estimates our perceptual abilities would strike me as most appropriate. Also, the fact that all species would be classified as 'blue' using the CIE-2000, when some of them are obviously not blue by simply looking at them, is consistent with the kinds of image-processing issues noted above. I only focus on this general point because it is offered as a key advance on previous work (L 40-41), but I don't think that is clearly the case (though I agree that the scoring methods of Hsiung et al. are quite vague). I'm generally in favour of this sort of quantitative approach, but here I wonder if it wouldn't be simpler and more defensible to just ask some humans to classify images of spiders as either 'blue' or 'green', since that seems to be the end-goal anyway.

      We agree that CIE 1976 is an inaccurate model of “human color sensation,” but at the same time the degree of their applicability or lack thereof to non-human tristimulus visual systems is not clear. In any case, the digital photographs do not preserve UV information anyway. We hasten to add CIE 1976 is still widely used in color science and engineering research for its simplicity and perceptual uniformity, as a simple Google Scholar search would attest. We believe that the reviewer is perhaps mistaken as to our motivation for choosing the CIE 1976 and the exact nature of the shortcomings of the CIE 1976 model, which it turns out to be an unintended advantage. Our goal was not, as the reviewer suggests, to just “quantitatively estimate color differences according to human viewers,” but to do so in a device independent fashion given the constraints of working with already available digital images, and for a putative trichromat visual system. Given there are technically no limits for a and b values in the CIE 76 space, color patches with high values of chroma are computed to have too strong a difference than in actual fact (Hill et al. 1997 ACM Transactions on Graphics, 16, 109-154). This is precisely the kind of situation that we do not face here, as we are essentially comparing shades of blue rather than for instance, chromatic contrasts between saturated blue vs. green or blue vs. red. Moreover, we only use the rectilinear rather than the polar coordinate representation of the colors (in other words, we do not compute the psychometric correlates, chroma Cab, or the hue angle hab). Contrary to the reviewer’s assertion that the CIE 1976 “overestimates color differences between highly chromatic colors (like saturated blues),” a quick perusal of Table S3 affirms that a comparison of highly saturated blues such as between our “standard” H. lividum and Poecilotheria metallica reveals they are quite close in terms of chromatic contrasts (i.e., small E values). Moreover, CIE 1994 and subsequent revisions rely on a von Kries-type transformation to account for non-uniformity of the perceptual space, but as the reviewer is well aware, without an accurate idea of the illumination conditions, use of CIE 2000 is not justified.

      Lastly, we are sure the reviewer appreciates that asking humans to manually score the colors of images (e.g. Hsiung et al. 2015) is neither reproducible nor enables quantitative analyses of trait evolution.

      3) L26-27, 53-56, 171-176: This is a more minor point than the above, but some of the discussion and logic around hypothesised functions could be elaborated upon, given it's presented as a motivating aim of the text (52-56). The challenge with a group like this, as the authors clearly know, is that essentially none of the ecological and behavioural work necessary to identify function(s) hasn't been done yet, so there are serious limitations on what might be inferred from purely comparative analyses at this stage. The (very interesting!) link between green colouration and arboreality is hypothesised and interpreted as evidence for crypsis, for example, but the link is not so straightforward. Light in a dense forest understory is quite often greenish (e.g. see Endler's work on terrestrial light environments) including at night which, when striking a specular, structurally-coloured green could make for a highly conspicuous colour pattern - especially achromatically (which is what nocturnal visual predators would often be relying on). This is particularly true if the substrate is brown rotten leaves or dirt, in which case they could shine like a beacon. Conversely, if the blue is sufficiently saturated and spectrally offset from the substrate it could be quite achromatically cryptic at dusk or night. To really answer these questions demands information on the viewers, viewing conditions, visual environment etc. The point being that it is a bit too simplistic to observe that, to a human, spiders are green and leaves on the forest floor may be green, and so suggest crypsis as the likely function (abstract L 22-23). So inferences around visual function(s) could either be toned down in places given the evidence at hand or shored up with further detail (though I'm not sure how much is available).

      We agree. Indeed, we are limited by the absence of rigorous behavioural studies. With this in mind, we have already made every effort to tone down and emphasize that our results might point towards a given function, but we do not claim it outright. It is our fervent hope that these findings will form the basis for future behavioural studies by giving researchers a starting point to test their hypotheses.

      We would like to point out that the association we uncovered is actually between arboreal taxa and the presence of green coloration and not as the reviewer says “spiders are green and leaves on forest floor may be green.” These taxa live in natural crevices on trees, shrubs and essentially spend their lives arboreally. Also, green coloration in tarantulas need not be structural in origin (see e.g., Saranathan et al. 2015) and this is why to test for crypsis against foliage, we used (pigmentary) leaves as the representative model for comparison to tarantula green colors. Although, certain lycaenid butterflies (Saranathan et al. 2010 10.1073/pnas.0909616107; Michielsen et al. 2010 10.1098/rsif.2009.0352), for instance, use structural coloration to better aid in crypsis against foliage.

      Minor comments:

      • I'm not familiar enough with with methods for creating homolog networks to comment in detail, but the use of BLASTing existing opsin sequences against transcriptomes seems straightforward enough. As do the methods for phylogenetic reconstruction.

      We agree this is straightforward.

      • L48: What constitutes a 'representative' species? And how reasonable is it to assign a value for such a labile trait to an entire genus? I understand we can only do our best of course and simplifications need to be made, but I can imagine many cases among insects (e.g. among butterflies and flies) where genus-level assignments would be meaningless due to the immense diversity of structural colouration among species (including in terms of simple presence/absence).

      Please see our response to Reviewer 2 above.

      • Line 168: Wouldn't this speak against a sexual function? Only in a tentative way of course, but the presence of conspicuous structural colouration in juveniles, which is absent in adults, would suggest a non-sexual origin to me.

      The reviewer’s inference is incorrect. We do not suggest that blue coloration is present in juveniles but absent in adults, but only that such conspicuous colors already appear in the penultimate moult right before the male creates a sperm web and is ready for mating.

    2. Reviewer #3:

      This neat paper continues the story of structural colour evolution in a group that is rarely appreciated for their ornamentation. The study uses colour & ecological data to model their evolution in a comparative framework, and also synthesises transcriptomic data to estimate the presence and diversity of opsins in the group. The main findings are that the tarantulas are ancestrally 'blue' and that green colouration has arisen repeatedly and seems to follow transitions to arboreality, along with evidence of perhaps underappreciated opsin diversity in the group. It's well-written and engaging, and a useful addition to our understanding of this developing story. I just have a few concerns around methods and the interpretation of results, however, which I feel need some further consideration.

      As the authors discuss in detail, this work in many ways parallels that of Hsiung et al. (2015). The two studies seem to agree in the broad-brush conclusions, which is interesting (and promising, for our understanding of the question), though their results conflict in significant ways too. Differences in methodology are an obvious cause, and they are particularly important in studies such as this in which the starting conditions (e.g. the assumed phylogeny or decisions around mapping of traits) so significantly shape outcomes. The current study uses a more recent and robust phylogeny, which is great, and the authors also emphasise their use of quantitative methods to assign colour traits (blue/green), unlike Hsiung et al.

      1) This latter point is my main area of methodological concern, and I am not currently convinced that it is as useful or objective as is suggested. One issue is that the photographs are unstandardised in several dimensions, which will render the extracted values quite unreliable. I know the authors have considered this (as discussed in their supplement), but ultimately I don't believe you can reliably compare colour estimates from such diverse sources. Issues include non-standardised lighting conditions, alternate white-balancing algorithms, artefacts introduced through image compression, differences in the spectral sensitivities of camera models, no compensation for non-linear scaling of sensor outputs (which would again differ with camera models and even lenses), and so on (the works of Martin Stevens, Jolyon Troscianko, Jair Garcia, Adrian Dyer offer good discussion of these and related challenges). Some effort is made to minimise adverse effects, such as excluding the L dimension when calculating some colour distances, but even then the consequences are overstated since the outputs of camera sensors scale non-linearly with intensity, and so non-standardised lighting will still affect chromatic channels (a & b values). So with these factors at play, it becomes very difficult to know whether identified colour differences are a consequence of genuine differences in colouration, or simply differences in white balancing or some other feature of the photographs themselves.

      2) The justification for some related decisions are also unclear to me. The CIE-76 colour distance is used, and is described as 'conservative'. But it is not so much conservative as it is an inaccurate model of human colour sensation. It fails to account for perceptual non-uniformity and actually overestimates colour differences between highly chromatic colours (like saturated blues). The authors note they preferred this to CIE-2000, which is a much better measure in terms of accuracy, because the latter was too permissive (line 300). I understand the problem, and appreciate their honesty, but this decision seems very arbitrary. If the goal is to quantitatively estimate colour differences according to human viewers, then the metric which best estimates our perceptual abilities would strike me as most appropriate. Also, the fact that all species would be classified as 'blue' using the CIE-2000, when some of them are obviously not blue by simply looking at them, is consistent with the kinds of image-processing issues noted above. I only focus on this general point because it is offered as a key advance on previous work (L 40-41), but I don't think that is clearly the case (though I agree that the scoring methods of Hsiung et al. are quite vague). I'm generally in favour of this sort of quantitative approach, but here I wonder if it wouldn't be simpler and more defensible to just ask some humans to classify images of spiders as either 'blue' or 'green', since that seems to be the end-goal anyway.

      3) L26-27, 53-56, 171-176: This is a more minor point than the above, but some of the discussion and logic around hypothesised functions could be elaborated upon, given it's presented as a motivating aim of the text (52-56). The challenge with a group like this, as the authors clearly know, is that essentially none of the ecological and behavioural work necessary to identify function(s) hasn't been done yet, so there are serious limitations on what might be inferred from purely comparative analyses at this stage. The (very interesting!) link between green colouration and arboreality is hypothesised and interpreted as evidence for crypsis, for example, but the link is not so straightforward. Light in a dense forest understory is quite often greenish (e.g. see Endler's work on terrestrial light environments) including at night which, when striking a specular, structurally-coloured green could make for a highly conspicuous colour pattern - especially achromatically (which is what nocturnal visual predators would often be relying on). This is particularly true if the substrate is brown rotten leaves or dirt, in which case they could shine like a beacon. Conversely, if the blue is sufficiently saturated and spectrally offset from the substrate it could be quite achromatically cryptic at dusk or night. To really answer these questions demands information on the viewers, viewing conditions, visual environment etc. The point being that it is a bit too simplistic to observe that, to a human, spiders are green and leaves on the forest floor may be green, and so suggest crypsis as the likely function (abstract L 22-23). So inferences around visual function(s) could either be toned down in places given the evidence at hand or shored up with further detail (though I'm not sure how much is available).

      Minor comments:

      -I'm not familiar enough with with methods for creating homolog networks to comment in detail, but the use of BLASTing existing opsin sequences against transcriptomes seems straightforward enough. As do the methods for phylogenetic reconstruction.

      -L48: What constitutes a 'representative' species? And how reasonable is it to assign a value for such a labile trait to an entire genus? I understand we can only do our best of course and simplifications need to be made, but I can imagine many cases among insects (e.g. among butterflies and flies) where genus-level assignments would be meaningless due to the immense diversity of structural colouration among species (including in terms of simple presence/absence).

      -Line 168: Wouldn't this speak against a sexual function? Only in a tentative way of course, but the presence of conspicuous structural colouration in juveniles, which is absent in adults, would suggest a non-sexual origin to me.

    1. Final Form makes the assumption that your validation functions are "pure" or "idempotent", i.e. will always return the same result when given the same values. This is why it doesn't run the synchronous validation again (just to double check) before allowing the submission: because it's already stored the results of the last time it ran it.
    1. College matters so much because it isn’t just about book learning or the development of tangible skills. It’s one of the first obstacle courses of adult life. The students who complete it typically go on to earn more and live healthier and happier lives, research shows.

      It is the battle of pushing yourself which students are starting to realize and building that foundation for yourself.

    1. https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WikiCite-2020-Research-output-items

      This pad assists with collaborative note-taking for the "Research output items" session at WikiCite 2020, as per https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCite/2020_Virtual_conference#Research_output_items .

      YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us_yYR6tAUY

      It is public and does not require a login - just start typing below to note down your observations, questions or comments regarding any of the contributions during the session.


      Daniel Mietchen

      • A quote that struck me -> We are on the verge of moving from "the age of information" to "the age of verification". #wikipedia #wikicite #wikicite2020

      • Diversity

        • of WikiCite 2020 speakers
        • of WikiCite 2020 session formats
        • of WikiCite contributors
        • of languages covered by WikiCite
        • of topics covered by WikiCite
        • ...
      • Research outputs: anyone interested in starting some data modeling for early research outcomes?

        • For instance, I have looked into Jupyter notebooks and how they are used across the Wikimedia ecosystem http://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.4031806
        • In one of my non-wiki volunteering roles, I am editing a journal that promotes the sharing of research across all stages of the research cycle, e.g. research ideas, grant proposals (funded or not), data management plans, posters, policy briefs etc., plus the usual research and review articles
      • Disaster response & mitigation

        • what can WikiCite do to better prepare for ongoing and future disasters and their information needs?
        • recent workshop: Wikimedia in disaster contexts. http://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.4105179
      • Scholia as a role model for exposing / exploring / learning & teaching Linked Open Data?
      • WikiCite roadmap & roadblocks

      I wonder what relations are there between The Research Ideas and Outcomes journal https://riojournal.com/ and WikiCite. If there are none, maybe it is an interface to increase diversity of representation of different research outputs... I think we are friendly fellow travelers :) but no direct overlap I know of

      With organisation and government publications they are not hosted in a stable way - often just published online. How does the verifiability issue work if we have lots of broken links. Any thoughts on how to deal with this? the Internet Archive is auto-archiving links that are put in English Wikipedia via bot... perhaps this bot's scope could be expanded (but this also works for web publications) If Australian: The Analysis & Policy Observatory hosts copies of a lot of this grey literature, and we have WD properties to link them directly as references: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7869, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7870. Are APO records in wikidata now? I'm not sure what this question means. They have millions of documents. We do not have an index of them, but you could make some items about individual reports if you consider them important. I haven't investigated a bulk upload. Neither property is well populated so far.

      I know that you have an associtaion with a PLOS journal that publishes wikipedia-style articles that can be copied over to WP. How did you set that up? Did you contact them or did they contact you?

      Tools - I keep getting recommended to use SourceMD but the new version doesn't work and the documentation is - well, I haven't found it! Not to whinge, but how do we make robust workflows that we can share with others when we can't be sure that tools will still be working in the future? (User:DrThneed) (Thank you, it helps to understand the history. DrThneed)


      Margaret Donald

      Margaret's presentation - does Margaret attempt to disambiguate the authors while she works on these citations? OpenRefine seems to be a worthy tool for this, is there a reason she doesn't use this before upload? (User:Ambrosia10 / Siobhan Leachman) As Margaret seem to, I find the Author Disambiguator even better than OpenRefine for this (especially when I know their research well). But if I had a lot of corroborating columns about the author, then I would try OR. (99of9) I've been wondering myself at what point with data is it worth reconciling authors in OpenRefine rather than adding as author strings and then having to individually disambiguate with Author Disambiguator? I suspect that reconciling in OpenRefine might work well when you are dealing with works with only a couple of authors and you are working on a research group or institution where you are familiar with most of the authors. (User:DrThneed)

      Where is Liam writing? I can't see his questions.

      • Me either.
      • Ah, it was a comment he sent in the private chat inside streamyard

      Amanda Lawrence

      Q: What's wrong with the Wikidata definition of "discussion paper" (currenty "pre-review academic work published for community comments during open peer review")? Sorry I didn't see you'd added the definition. So my problem is that a discussion paper is not necessary pre-review, or academic work or subject to peer review. Q: Are all of these vocabularies set up as properties in WD? Q: Has the APO term taxonomy changed? The link we had to "climate change" now returns a 404: https://apo.org.au/taxonomy/term/20177 http://web.archive.org/web/20191031173118/https://apo.org.au/taxonomy/term/20177 https://apo.org.au/search-apo/%22climate%20change%22?apo-facets%5B0%5D=subject%3A52376

      Wow! Appalling that the Finch Report is so hard to find. Can Wikimedia cache objects like this? (User:Petermr) Probably not, becasue copyright I assume it's Crown copyright - can't remember what that allows . ("The default licence for most Crown copyright and Crown database right information is the Open Government Licence.") If that applies, a PDF could go on Commons, and it could be transcribed in Wikisource apparantly a working group of a consortium https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24400530/ copyright too hard as no clear statement, and original link to full report has rotted http://www.researchinfonet.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Finch-Group-report-FINAL-VERSION.pdf the executive summary has an "Open Access" graphic, but has no licence statement sigh here is the IA version https://web.archive.org/web/20120725031811/http://www.researchinfonet.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Finch-Group-report-FINAL-VERSION.pdf it has CC-BY on it but no version. i would upload that to commons, but expect a question. it was early in OGL days. if it gets deleted, they will upload a local copy at wikisource. This has been on Commons since January 2014! - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Finch_Group_report.pdf - Troubling that it didn't show up in any of our searches. Now linked to the Wikidata item: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19028392 And on Wikisource! https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Accessibility,_sustainability,_excellence:_how_to_expand_access_to_research_publications very nice, need some linking at TOC rather than the whole text in one. and link to wikidata Yes, and a header template, in which the search-friendly phrase "Finch Report" can be included. It's late here in the UK; I'll do it tomorrow if none of the AU/NZ crowd beat me to it ;-) How would we go about setting up a working group to work through the issues with grey literature modelling and importing raised by Amanda?

      Set up a sub-page of the WikiCite related project at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData - then announce it on the main project talk page, social media with #WikiCite hashtag, and on the WikiCite mailing list, etc.

      Thomas Shafee

      WikiJournal links

      https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_of_Science/Potential_upcoming_articles https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_of_Science/Volume_3_Issue_1 Example: https://doi.org/10.15347/WJM/2020.002 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q96317242

      STARDIT links

      Mapping: https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/STARDIT/form_mapping

      Example1: https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-54058/v1 https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/STARDIT/Involving_ASPREE-XT_participants_in_co-_design_of_a_future_multi-generational_cohort_study http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q98539361

      Example2: https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-62242/v1 https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/STARDIT/Involving_People_Affected_by_a_Rare_Condition_in_Shaping_Future_Genomic_Research https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q100403236

      Open Qs:

      For overall structure when is it best to:

      • Enrich the Wikidata item for the activity (e.g. Q98539361)?
      • Create a separate Wikidata item for the report (e.g. Q98539361)?

      For every aspect:

      • How much of the free text can be made structured?
      • What’s the best way to structure each data type?
      • Can some freetext be stored in Wikidata (similar to P1683 quotation)?

      What's the best way to input data by users with no Wikidata experience! Pageforms -> local wikibase in wikispore -> Wikidata -> back to wikispore?

      Dark-side links:

      https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Source_MetaData#Predatory_publishers https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Source_MetaData#Retracted_articles

      Example: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q61957492 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q29030043 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q58419365

      Q: Are reviewers ever shy about showing ignorance in their questioning if they know their comments are open? some studies suggest it can be harder to get a reviewr to agree, but the reviews themselves appear to be as, or more thorough.

      Exciting that you see methodology as metadata. I agree. This is something where instruments, software, reagents are all very well identifiable in running text. Some have RRIDs. Those could be added as properties (User:petermr)

      Thomas do you think people will put the time into creating the extra data about their work? Some authors are already keen, but for most, it would have to be a journal requirement. Currnelty, many require declaration of author roles (but I've never seen that info structured, just in the acknowledgements section). there's also precedent for methodology from www.cell.com/star-methods which some chemistry journals require, which are quite structured and incredibly thorough. For addtional contributors, they're often included in the acknowledgements as freee text, so it might not be too difficult to shift people's habits towards filling in a simple dropdown form.


      Toby Hudson

      Wikidata:Entity Explosion https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Entity_Explosion

      There is an arachnaphobe!


      Open discussion

      The wishlist/major gaps in WikiCite activity

      • WikiCite as dataset for citations in Wikipedia -- as long as they are formatted for human reading and linking from Wikipedia and not sending readers around the traps

      Wishing journals would pay attention to their data in Wikidata in the way they do to where they are indexed.

      • Is there an option in WIkidata for indicating which indexing services an journal is indexed by?
    1. Distracted, he goes from door to Joor and to the window, whilst the bathroom door contim1es to shake and JEAN continues to trumpet and hurl incomprehensible insults. This continues far some moments; whenever BERENGER in his disordered attempts to escape reaches the door of the Old People's flat or the stairway, he is greeted by rhinoceros heads which trumpet and cause him to beat a hasty retreat.

      The use of the rhinoceros heads secures their place in reality for the audience. Rather than being a disembodied noise, the characters of the rhinos are now visible. This could be because people can recognize them now. As we've talked about in class, this play is supposed to illustrate the rise of fascism in Romania, and the gradual appearance of rhinos (first as noise, then as horns, now as heads) shows the population's gradual realization that fascism is upon them. There is also an aspect of making the play easier to put on, as having giant rhinoceros puppets is not cheap nor accessible for all theaters. However I think it also matters in what order the parts of the rhinoceros appear. When the rhinos is initially just noise, it represents the spreading of fascism without the same ramifications; no one is hurt in the first rhinoceros appearance. However, the amount of damage quickly escalates, and the next phase of the appearance of rhinos is their horns. Their horns symbolize weaponry and violence and power, and show the lengths fascists will go to in order to rise to power. It's also a more extreme representation; a horn is on the extremity of a rhinoceros, but it's a defining feature. Finally, they are represented as rhinoceros heads. To me this illustrates the full conversion from average citizen to full-fledged fascist, in which it's a transformation not just of body but also of mind. We see this as Jean transforms: he is not fighting against the change, but thinking through it and egging it on as he dismisses the human race.

    2. he same time, crossing the orchestra pit at great speed, move a large number of rhinoceros heads in line

      There's something super paradoxical and indicative of the absurdist genre that comes from calling the play Rhinoceros, including Rhinoceroses in the stage directions, etc but then only using heads to portray them here. When I think of a rhinoceros, a huge part of what I consider is its massive, lumbering frame. They have huge, heavy paw-like feet, they have many wrinkles and crinkles of grey skin. To take all of this away and reduce it to just the rhino's head, is to adjust the definition of "rhino" in the context of this play. The rhino has less dignity in this context; it's more of an object and less of a creature.

    3. Ju:s: [from the bachroom]Just cliches! You're talking rubbish! BER.ENG.ER: Rubbish! JEAN: [from the bathroom in a very hoarse voice, difficult to understand] Utter rubbish! BERENGEll: I'm amazed to hear you say that, Jean, really! You must be out of your mind.You wouldn't like to be a rhinoceros yourself, now would you? JEAN: Why not? I'm not a victim of prejudice like you. BERENGEll: Can you speak more clearly? I didn't catch what you said. You swallowed the words. JEAN: [still in the bathroom] Then keep your ears open.

      I can imagine sitting in the audience as this conversation is happening, just afraid and shocked to see one of the two main characters fully turn into a Rhinoceros. It's almost scarier for the audience that they can't see exactly whats happening, but they are hearing Jean discredit humans and mankind saying that Humanism is all washed up, almost as if he is fighting to become a Rhinoceros instead of turning into one against his will.Hearing Jean's voice change offstage is another tool for adding a sense of suspense for the audience, because they can only guess what is happening, and have seen small clues that Jean is going to fully change into a Rhino, but he hasn't fully transformed yet. I think Ionesco's aim here is to give the audience a sense of feeling out of control, as a spectator who can do nothing to change what's happening. This sense of powerlessness could definitely be tied to Camus idea of the absurd and the pointlessness of life if you can't change anything- like sitting and watching as people are becoming Rhinos against their will.

    4. [ A sound of rapid galloping is heard approaching again, trumpeting and the sound of rhinoceros hooves and vantings; this time the

      Each time that the rhinoceroses appear in Act One, the characters seem to be talking about some kind of universal discipline that one has, or duty that one adheres to, that indicates a person's superiority. Right before the first rhino appearance, Jean has just finished saying that "The superior man is the man who fulfills his duty.. as an employee," and right before the second appearance here, Jean is criticizing Berenger's drinking and saying that there is something that sets Berenger's drinking apart from his. This seems to suggest that there is some kind of coherence or relationship between Berenger's sort of outcast status and the appearance or state of the rhinoceroses. To add to this idea of a contrast between Berenger and the rhinoceroses, the actual appearance of the rhinos tends to unify the other characters as they respond in unison with the exact same words to the situation whereas Berenger also has a distinctive individual response. The scenes of the rhinos "appearing" were also very intriguing in terms of how the rhinoceroses aren't described in great physical detail and seem to pass by quicker than the characters can even catch a glimpse, as though there is some kind of invisible force wreaking havoc onstage and while everyone else has a group response to this kind of invisible force, Berenger doesn't. (This annotation was meant to extend to the top of page 25 up until where Jean says "it's not the same thing at all," but it wouldn't let me do an annotation with the text spanning across two pages.)

    1. Author Response

      1) There were concerns about the normality tests and reanalysis to avoid pseudo-replication that must be addressed.

      We have now checked the data by two tests for normal distribution (Shapiro-Wilk and Kolmogorov_Smirnoff) and found that flight data do not follow a normal distribution. Therefore statistical analysis of flight data have now been performed using non-parametric tests. We have used the Kruskal-Wallace test followed by Dunn’s multiple comparison test for multiple comparisons and Mann-Whitney U-Test for pair wise comparisons. This information has been included in the statistical tests section in methods. Regarding pseudo-replication, as suggested imaging data have been replotted and calculated now to include just one cell, or one lobe per brain. In addition we have included individual brain traces for every experiment as supplemental data (Figure 5 - supplement F2, Figure 6 – supplement F1, F3 and F4).

      2) Discussion should be made clearer and expanded to encompass more of the literature. Specifically, the authors should expand upon the final section of the discussion to discuss more about 1) the potential context for cholinergic modulation of the PPL1-y2alpha'1 DANs (For example, consider where the acetylcholine signal onto DANs might come from. DANs may not be entirely presynaptic to Kenyon cells but might also receive input from Kenyon cells.), 2) the proposed role of these DANs (which have been studied in several contexts) and 3) modulation of innate behavior in general. The paper begins with the importance of modulating innate behavior, but the discussion on this topic is spare and focused almost entirely on research on the mushroom bodies of Drosophila. The discussion section leans heavily on summarizing the results, rather than making connections to work in other systems or networks.

      As suggested we have now addressed each of these points in greater detail in the last section of the discussion which has been expanded to two paragraphs. The possibility of cholinergic inputs from KC cells to DANs stimulating the IP3R have been included in the discussion and in the final model in Figure 7. Several other references that mention the role of PPL1-y2alpha'1 DANs in modulation of behaviour are now included – see last para of the discussion. We have expanded the last section of the discussion to include possible roles for other regions of the brain in modulating flight and references to other insect brains, where relevant.

      3) One common point raised by all reviewers was the need for expression of the itprDN during pupation which could have been due to either the perdurance of endogenous itpr vs. a developmental effect caused by the itprDN (the authors fully acknowledge the issue). This section raised many questions that aren't within the scope of this study, nor are easily resolved. Nevertheless, the authors must expand upon the implications of these results and suggest future studies will needed to resolve the issue.

      We are indeed unable to state equivocally if adult behavioural phenotypes, arising from expression of the IP3R^DN, are only pupal or both pupal and adult. We have expanded on the implications of these results both in the results (Page 9-10) and in the discussion (page 11). One way of addressing this is to express a tagged IP3R^DN specifically in late pupae and then follow it’s perdurance in adults. This experiment has now been suggested as a way to resolve this issue in the second paragraph of the discussion.

      Reviewer #1:

      The authors report experiments on Drosophila to show that the proper function of an IP3 receptor in a small subset of dopaminergic neurons is required for flight behavior. Most interesting is the fact that the requirement is restricted to a time point during pupal development. Technically, the authors report a novel dominant-negative mutant for of the IP3 receptor to interfere with its function. Physiologically, the IP3 receptor-dependent impairment in the function of the dopaminergic neurons affects both synaptic vesicle release and excitability, Also, muscarinic acetylcholine receptors are required for proper development of the flight-modulating circuit during development.

      The role of dopamine in the brain of Drosophila (as a model for general dopamine and brain function) is in the center of current research, and is studied by a large number of laboratories. More and more types of behavior are discovered that are modulated by dopaminergic neurons, and in particular those innervating the mushroom body. Therefore, the study is of very high interest for researchers working on Drosophila, but also to a broader readership.

      The experiments are well designed. with appropriate controls at place. The conclusions drawn are highly interesting and novel (dopaminergic modulation of flight behavior, perhaps in the context of food seeking behavior, molecular mechanisms of circuit maturation).

      Minor comments:

      1) A test for normal distribution of data is required to determine whether parametric statistical tests are actually appropriate.

      Done – please see response above.

      2) It is not clear to me why the authors conclude an acute requirement of IP3R during the adult state although the phenotype can arise through a genetic intervention during earlier time points in development (Page 9, lines 297ff). This has to be outlined much clearer. My interpretation of the data is: During a certain time window after pupal formation IP3 signaling is required for a proper formation of the neuronal circuit. This is likely to be not only a cell-intrinsic (i.e., cell autonomous) effect because the mAchR is also required during this time window. This provides an excellent example (there are actually only very few!) of circuit development that requires synaptic interactions between neurons. If one keeps in mind that dopaminergic neurons have reciprocal synapses with Kenyon cells (e.g. Cervantes-Sandova, elife 2017; should be included in schematic illustration!)), and these release acetylcholine onto dopaminergic neurons, a potential circuit maturation based on the concerted activity is most interesting. I suggest that the authors point out more precisely how they think the actual phenotype comes about, of course, with all due caution.

      The primary reason that we suggest an adult requirement for the IP3R in the DANs is that we see a Ca2+ response to carbachol in adult PPL1-y2alpha'1 DANs (Figure 5 – supplement 1). We put together this finding with the observation that carbachol stimulates dopamine release from PPL1-y2alpha'1 DANs (Figure 5) and that blocking vesicle release acutely in adults reduce durations of flight bouts (Figure 4) to suggest that there is likely to be an adult requirement. However, we agree that this is not conclusive and certainly does not negate a pupal requirement. As mentioned above we have addressed the pupal vs pupal+adult issue in greater detail in the results (page 9, 10) and discussion (page 11). We agree that there may be acetylcholine release from Kenyon cells at the MB synapse. This possibility has been included in the discussion and in Figure 7.

      3) Statistical tests should be done across independent brains, not across different cells in the same brains.

      We have done this. Thank you for pointing this out.

      Additional data files and statistical comments:

      A test for normal distribution of data is required to determine whether parametric statistical tests are actually appropriate.

      Done.

      Figure legend 5 C should be 5B. The scaling of the y-axis is not optimal.

      Done.

      Statistical tests should be done across independent brains, not across different cells in the same brains. This would cause a mixture of dependent and independent data. This is of importance!

      Done.

      Reviewer #2:

      The results of the individual experiments reported by the authors are convincing. The approach is rigorous and they take full advantage of the many powerful molecular genetic tools available in Drosophila. The identification of a mechanism by which a small subset of dopaminergic cells may control behavior is significant. My concerns about the manuscript are relatively minor.

      Minor comments:

      I have reviewed "Modulation of flight and feeding behaviours requires presynaptic IP3Rs in dopaminergic Neurons" by Sharma and Hasan. The authors first translated to Drosophila a dominant negative (DN) strategy first tested in mammalian cells to block the function of the fly IP3 receptor. Controls using westerns to test the expression in vivo and calcium imaging to assess inhibitory activity in an ex vivo prep were generally convincing. They then show that the DNA, RNAi and a wt transgene disrupts flight as they have shown previously using both genetic mutants and RNAi. They use genetic rescue to further show that alterations in the function of itpr in dopaminergic cells are likely to mediate at least some aspects of the flight deficit. The restricted distribution of the THD' driver was used to narrow down the identity of DA cell clusters responsible for this effect to PPL1 and/or PPL3. Additional split GAL4 lines identified a deficit when the DN was expressed in the PPL1-γ2α′1 subset of DA cells that project to the mushroom bodies. This is a key finding of the paper since it localizes the requirement of the IP3R to cells that have been implicated in other behaviors. Developmental tests using TARGET/GAL80 indicate a requirement for itpr during late development. Disruption of itpr only in the adult did not have a significant effect. This seems likely to be due to perdurance of itpr as suggested by the authors. However, these data make it difficult to determine which aspects of the phenotype are due to broad developmental deficits versus disruption of IP3R in the adult (see below). The authors next test the effects of mAhR with the idea that mAChR is likely to signal through IP3R. While it was known that developmental expression of mAcHR expression is required for adult flight, the current data more specifically that the PPL1-γ2α′1 DANs are required, enhancing the impact of the paper.

      To tie these results to vesicle recycling and release the authors use the shibere[ts] transgene in PPL1-γ2α′1. Flight bouts were disrupted via exposure to the non-permissive temperature both during late pupal development and the adult. The adult phenotype has been demonstrated previously but the developmental defect is novel. The demonstration of an effect in adults is important since it suggests loss of itpr during adulthood might also have an effect in adults even though this can't be tested due to perdurance. Expression of shibire[ts] in PPL1-γ2α′1 also disrupts feeding, and the authors next phenotype these effects with the itpr DN, indicating that IP3R expression in PPL1-γ2α′1 is required for both feeding and flight. However, here as with the flight experiments, it is not possible to directly demonstrate an effect in adults due to perdurance. They show that knockdown of mAChR also reduces feeding similar to its effects on flight and suggest that the deficits are due to disruption of the mAchR ->(Gq) ->IPR3 pathway. The suggestion of connections between mAchR and IPR3 within PPL1-γ2α′1 and the idea that PPL1-γ2α′1 controls two distinct behaviors are a significant finding and one of main contributions of the paper.

      To help link the shibire[ts] data set with and the results of perturbing mAchR and IPR3, the authors show that carbochol induced DA release is reduced, making excellent use of the relatively new GRAB-DA lines. As a control, they show that synapse density of PPL1-γ2α′1 in the γ2α′1 MB lobes are not altered. The demonstration that DA release is altered elevates the technical strength of the paper. Moreover, although further experiments might be needed to prove their model, these data support the argument that mAchR ->(Gq) ->IPR3 pathway is disrupted in the adult. The final set of experiments in Fig 6 indicate that excitability of the PPL1-γ2α′1 DANs is also disrupted by knock down or IP3R. Is it possible that this deficit contributes to the decrease in DA release by the mAchR ->(Gq) ->IPR3 and the authors nicely explain a possible mechanism and cite relevant references in the Discussion.

      The results of the individual experiments reported by the authors are convincing. The approach is rigorous and they take full advantage of the many powerful molecular genetic tools available in Drosophila. The generation of the DN transgene is a nice idea and in combination with other tools helped them to identify specific subsets of DA neurons important for the behaviors they test. However, they have previously demonstrated similar effects with mutants and RNAi, and again use them to help map the relevant cells. Since the use of the DN construct did not really go beyond the experiments using RNAi or genetic rescue, the emphasis on the importance of this reagent might be reduced in the abstract and introduction.

      Flight deficits have also been seen in other experiments on these the DANs identified by the authors. Thus, the major novel finding of this section is the demonstration that itpr is required in these cells for regulating flight. While it was previously shown that feeding behavior is also required by DAN projections to the MB, the idea that overlapping cells might control both flight and feeding is interesting. Although the idea that these two phenotypes are specifically related to each other seems somewhat speculative, one major strength of the paper lies in tying together prior observations on itpr and the DANs with their current experiments. They do this again at the cellular level using GRAB to show that carbachol induced release of DA (but not synapse density) is reduced by itpr knock-down, thus tying together data on shibere, AcHR and itpr.

      These connections make for an exciting story, and they have been cleverly woven together by the authors. On the other hand, they also represent a possible concern about the manuscript as a whole, since causal relationships between the deficits between the effects of blocking the effects of IP3R, mAcHR, neuronal excitability and vesicle release are not yet proven. It is therefore possible that all of these are relatively non-specific effects of disrupting the function of PPL1-γ2α′1 neurons. This modestly reduces the strength of the paper but is also a relatively minor concern. A second potential concern is that despite the interesting connections made by the authors as well as some exciting new data, some of the findings replicate previous data.

      It is indeed likely that loss of the IP3R in PPL1-y2alpha'1 DANs leads to both specific (acetylcholine signaling followed by neurotransmitter release) and non-specific changes (such as loss of excitability). Both are likely to have an effect on the behavioural phenotypes modulated by PPL1-y2alpha'1 DANs. We have previously shown a role for both mAchR and the IP3R in flight. However, in this work we have addressed cell specificity and mechanism, neither of which was known earlier.

      A third concern is the relationship between the effects of disrupting PPL1-γ2α′1 during development versus the adult. As the authors suggest, perdurance (of protein expression) and/or "perdurance" of previously formed tetramers could easily account for the failure of itpr and mAChR knock down in the adult to cause behavioral deficits. By the same token, it is difficult to parse out the contribution of developmental defects in the DA cells versus problems with signaling in the adult and the following issues should be addressed: the observation that synaptic bouton density is not disrupted is a good way to eliminate gross disruption of connectivity during development but does not rule out other more subtle developmental defects in neuronal function. The fact that shibire[ts] can cause effects in the adult is appreciated but does not really help us to understand what IP3R and perhaps mAcHR are doing during development.

      We agree and have tried to further address this issue in the text (see above).

      Additional Minor Concerns.

      To validate the decrease in the overall response to carbachol in Fig 1D and E, the authors show a statistically significant difference for area under the curve. A parallel metric and statistical test might be used to support the statement that the response is delayed in 1D but not 1E.

      Thank you for this suggestion. We performed the test and in fact found that both cellular and mitochondrial responses are delayed. In presence of IP3RDN. This part of the text has been modified (page 4).

      "Interestingly, the mitochondrial response did not exhibit a delay in reaching peak values." Why is that? A brief explanation might be useful.

      This is no longer the case. The sentence has been removed.

      The second explanation of how shibire[ts] works might be shortened.

      Done.

      Reviewer #3:

      General Assessment:

      This study demonstrates that IP3R signaling (triggered by muscarinic receptor activation) affects excitability and quantal content of a subset of dopaminergic neurons to modulate flight duration and food search. I had no technical concerns and am generally supportive. My only major concern was that the narrative was fragmented. I believe this is because the perspective shifted between the IP3Rs and the dopamine neurons themselves, and was too focused. I think that streamlining the narrative and providing a broader perspective for the results will remedy this issue.

      Major Comments:

      -I would like the authors to expand upon their final section of the discussion to discuss more about 1) the potential context for cholinergic modulation of the PPL1-y2alpha'1 DANs, 2) the proposed role of these DANs (which have been studied in several contexts) and 3) modulation of innate behavior in general. The paper begins with the importance of modulating innate behavior, but the discussion on this topic is spare and focused almost entirely on research on the mushroom bodies of Drosophila. The discussion section leans heavily on summarizing the results, rather than making connections to work in other systems or networks.

      We have expanded the last section of the discussion to include these suggestions (see above under consolidated review points).

      -The developmental section seemed somewhat tangential as the authors cannot distinguish between a developmental role for the IP3R from a need to express the ItprDN transgene prior to adulthood to overcome a potential slow turnover of endogenous IP3R. In essence, it was unclear how these results contributed to the overall narrative of state modulation of behavior. Is this section informative to the development of the mushroom bodies or rigorous validation of the novel transgene?

      The manuscript addresses how IP3R function impacts behaviour. In that context pupal (developmental) and adult contributions are both relevant.

    1. Both also got their supplies from European nations. For the CCP it was the USSR and for the US it was any country that disliked the UK. It’s kind of weird that these two events in history share many similar traits.

      This was a great post! I like how you talked about the Chinese military's and critiqued it well! It is fascinating to read about war but China's military's was just not ready to face Japans.

    1. No

      I actually really like it when people are more "mean" with my writing during peer editing (but obviously not offensive). I feel like we all have the tendency to be "nice:" 90% compliments and 10% small suggestions, just to be polite to our peers. But it should definitely be the opposite, it's more helpful that way.

    2. Okay. You've got a student paper you have to read and make comments on for Thursday. It's not something you're looking forward to. But that's alright, you think. There isn't really all that much to it. Just keep it simple.

      I instantly noticed the way Richard Straub's writes: his short, quick sentences help me follow along the story easily rather than restrict me from trying to process what he's talking about.

    3. When you praise, praise well

      It's important to note that praise is just as effective as critiques. When we find something in a paper that we think works really well, we should comment about it and add why we think it works well. This gives the writer an idea of what sort of ideas and organizational styles work in specific assignments. Also, certain praise comments can be useful to the writer when looking through other critiques. The writer can consider what worked and then implement some of those techniques into what didn't work.

    1. And if they’re not protecting Indigenous women from non- Natives committing acts of violence on their land, and the tribe is prohibited from prosecuting those non- Natives, that just seems to be a complete paradox. I mean, to me, that is an incredible example of the structural violence that Native women find themselves in, in terms of the barriers to seek justice.

      really well put, it's entirely a paradox imposed on purpose though to remove any US involvement in cases like rape because I feel like this nation doesn't want to recognize that such a issue exists for these Native women but removes them of any responsibility. This reifies the idea about Native women's bodies being objectified or used as any perp sees fit. Again the legacy of colonialism.

    1. A pine tree that grows in a manicured suburban lawnmay grow straight, dense with needles, but the true nature of thepine is manifested by a one holding on at cliff-edge, bent,stunted, and with few needles because of a century of frigidwind. (This idea is the basis of Japanese pruning techniques andbonsai training.) And while we tend to think “beauty is in theeye of the beholder” and that emotions are subjective, themoment of the day’s last light as autumn fades into winter (akino yu¯gure or aki no kure) has a type of beauty and feeling thatis in and of the scene itself. The Japanese held to an idea of“poetic essences” (hon’i), that captured the true nature of athing and could be handed down in the literary tradition.13

      Relate: I think this idea of showing the true nature of something relates back to how we show renderings. With digital renderings it's easy to copy and paste png's of perfect trees from the internet. The trees usually downloaded are pictures of species that have grown in full sun with nothing crowding it. The trunks are straight, and the canopy looks manicured. What is hard to find are png's of trees that truly capture the character of the species. Capturing the true quality of the species on the cite I feel like is one of the best ways to connect it back to the area that is being rendered. For example, an Eastern Red Cedar grown in perfectly manicured conditions would resemble in some ways a Christmas tree. But when it is competing for light the branches open in an interesting way that makes it look like it is curling. As landscape Architects the drawings should show some hints of the characteristics that are unique to the species. Not just the perfectly manicured version of it.

    1. They may embody important and valid truths or trivial inconsequences or pretentious errors.

      Just because we have the numbers doesn't mean that we understand what that data is trying to show us. It's how we put that data to use. It can either reveal important ground breaking discoveries or useless numbers, it all depends on how you measure and how you interpret that information. This is important to the history because this gentleman obviously realizes how the study of psychology needed to be altered. We need to but both data and application together not separated.

    1. he idea of the Indian nation, as only one example, is a modern idea that I believe was invented precisely at the moment of treaty, hence my call for more modernization is simultaneously a demand for greater nationaliza-tion.

      Why don't we get to change and evolve like other cultures without being accused as not being us anymore. If it's done on our terms than it's just as much us as they are them. The challenge is being able to do it on our terms in our way.

    2. As we can see in the story of the Great Migration, it produces difference: new communities, new peoples, new ways of living, new sacred foods, new stories, and new ceremonies. The old never dies; it just gets supplemented by the new, and one re-sult is diversity

      I think one thing that is remarkable about this concept is how gentle it is. It's a very kind perspective of change that understands difference and embraces it.

      In some ways, it feels like the antithesis to colonization. Colonization does not embrace the new or the old. It consolidates. It demands one is chosen over the over. It seeks competition across cultures.

    1. Consider

      I would think that being "perfectly merciful" and "perfectly just" means that he is one or the other of those things when it's warranted, and not both at the same time

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    1. God sende hem soone verray pestilence!      1264

      In summary: A knight rapes a woman he sees walking from the river. Queen Guinevere says his punishment is finding what women most desire in one year, or he’ll get beheaded. The knight questions women everywhere, but none of them give the same answer. After a year, he goes back to King Arthur’s court. On the way, he finds a ring of 24 fairies dancing. They disappear and are replaced by an ugly old hag. She agrees to tell the knight what women most desire if he promises to grant her anything she desires. He agrees. She tells the knight women want to rule over their husbands and lovers. The queen says he’s right, and then makes him fulfill his promise by marrying the hag. After marriage, the knight doesn't want to consummate because she’s old and ugly. The hag gives him a speech about advantages of poverty and old age, then gives him a choice: her, old and ugly but a good and faithful wife, or her, young and beautiful but no other good qualities. The knight lets her choose. Because her husband has given her sovereignty, she agrees to be young, beautiful, and a good wife. They live happily ever after.

      The Wyf of Bath is still a little salty that the Miller named the cheating wife in his story after her. She basically says that women run the relationships and spends a good portion of her tale having the hag berate her husband for being a shallow, selfish person. We also learn that the Wyf has had five husbands, so if anyone knows about love, apparently, it's her, and the Miller can just shut his trap.

    2. God sende hem soone verray pestilence!

      This would be what I think the Wyf of Bath is getting at in her Prologue and Tale:

      Knight: Man of Law: I think it’s about time your silly stories are really addressed. I’m kind of a mediator here because I’m not super poor like the peasants we have here, but I’m also not BLATENTLY IGNORANT like you two are. I’ll be the middle ground. So let me show you what the Miller, Reeve, and Cook are trying to say to you: Your stories are full of obnoxious, unrealistic, and aristocratic fluff and nonsense that none of us want to here. I mean, don’t you SEE that there are peasantry in our midst? Have a little respect. And also can we PLEASE get away from this overdramatized and obsolete idea that women are objects in our stories? As you can clearly see by my story, there is just so much more to women than you think. They can be quite surprising and pretty dang great. And my goodness, I thought that AT LEAST after the Knight got quited by the Miller’s Tale, you Man of Law person would have some more sense. But no. You just went right down the same track he did. You clearly don’t learn anything. We’re trying to make a very relevant and thoughtful commentary about philosophical, psychosocial, socioeconomic matters of our society right now, and you’re throwing a wrench into our efforts by talking about ladies floating in boats. Can you please get your head out of the mellow dramatic clouds of literary eloquence you’re stuck in, and get it down here with us? PLEASE?

    3. Ther nas but hevynesse and muche sorwe. Page  87      1079 For prively he wedded hire on the morwe,      1080 And al day after hidde hym as an owle,      1081 So wo was hym, his wyf looked so foule.      1082 Greet was the wo the knyght hadde in his thoght,      1083 Whan he was with his wyf abedde ybroght;      1084 He walweth and he turneth to and fro.      1085 His olde wyf lay smylynge everemo,      1086 And seyde, o deere housbonde, benedicitee!      1087 Fareth every knyght thys with his wyf as ye?      1088 Is this the lawe of kyng arthures hous?      1089 Is every knyght of his so dangerous?      1090 I am youre owene love and eek youre wyf;      1091 I am she which that saved hath youre lyf,      1092 And, certes, yet ne dide I yow nevere unright;      1093 Why fare ye thus with me this firste nyght?      1094 Ye faren lyk a man had lost his wit.      1095 What is my gilt? for goddes love, tel me it,      1096 And it shal been amende, if I may.      1097 Amended? quod this knyght, allas! nay, nay!      1098 It wol nat been amended nevere mo.      1099 Thou art so loothly, and so oold also,      1100 And therto comen of so lough a kynde,      1101 That litel wonder is thogh I walwe and wynde.      1102 So wolde God myn herte wolde breste!      1103 Is this, quod she, the cause of youre unreste?      1104 Ye, certeinly, quod he, no wonder is.      1105 Now, sire, quod she, I koude amende al this,      1106 If that me liste, er it were dayes thre,      1107 So wel ye myghte bere yow unto me.      1108 But, for ye speken of swich gentillesse      1109 As is descended out of old richesse,      1110 That therfore sholden ye be gentil men,      1111 Swich arrogance is nat worth an hen.      1112 Looke who that is moost vertuous alway,      1113 Pryvee and apert, and moost entendeth ay      1114 To do the gentil dedes that he kan;      1115 Taak hym for the grettest gentil man.      1116 Crist wole we clayme of hym oure gentillesse,      1117 Nat of oure eldres for hire old richesse.      1118 For thogh they yeve us al hir heritage,      1119 For which we clayme to been of heigh parage,      1120 Yet may they nat biquethe, for no thyng,      1121 To noon of us hir vertuous lyvyng,      1122 That made hem gentil men ycalled be,      1123 And bad us folwen hem in swich degree.      1124 Wel kan the wise poete of florence,      1125 That highte dant, speken in this sentence.      1126 Lo, in swich maner rym is dantes tale:      1127 -- Ful selde up riseth by his brances smale      1128 Prowesse of man, for god, of his goodnesse,      1129 Wole that of hym we clayme oure gentillesse; --      1130 For of oure eldres may we no thyng clayme      1131 But temporel thyng, that man may hurte and mayme.      1132 Eek every wight woot this as wel as I,      1133 If gentillesse were planted natureelly      1134 Unto a certeyn lynage doun the lyne,      1135 Pryvee and apert, thanne wolde they nevere fyne      1136 To doon of gentillesse the faire office;      1137 They myghte do no vileynye or vice.      1138 Taak fyr, and ber it in the derkeste hous      1139 Bitwix this and the mount of kaukasous,      1140 And lat men shette the dores and go thenne;      1141 Yet wole the fyr as faire lye and brenne      1142 As twenty thousand men myghte it biholde;      1143 His office natureel ay wol it holde,      1144

      1079-1144: Basically, the knight marries the hag and then goes into hiding because he's ashamed about how ugly his wife is. He's not happy when he gets into bed with her and he tosses and turns all night. She just lies there, smiling, and asks him if all husbands treat their wives this way. She reminds him she saved his life and has never wronged him. Why won’t he treat her right on the night of their wedding? The knight tells her that it’s because she’s ugly and old. The hag says she can fix that in three days if he treats her better. She then gives him a really long lecture about thinking that rich people are better than poor people. She calls him arrogant, saying that real men are the ones who do the right thing even when nobody is watching. Gentility comes from God, not money.

      Notes: The hag spends so long telling off her husband for being a horrible gentleman that it’s a wonder she even wanted to marry him in the first place. If she knew he would treat her like this, why bother? Did she want his wealth or something?

      There are connections between the tale's prologue and the tale itself. The tale illustrates how "necessary" it is for women to rule over their husbands. The Wyf of Bath herself has had five, so she’d know, right? She basically said in the prologue that she speaks from experience, so can we infer that one of her husbands said things like this to her and she fixed it by lecturing him?

    1. "art room," Malaguzzi chose the French term "atelier,"

      I can imagine that merely calling it the "art room" would have maybe limited it's potential. The idea of a laboratory encompasses so much more than just art.

    1. Any crime, however heinous, is in principle to be blamed on antecedent conditions acting through the accused’s physiology, heredity and environment.

      Not always. I feel that just because someone had grown up, for example, in or around a toxic family/environment, they have the power to be different. They can be the first to diverge from that toxic environment and become a leading figure. It won't be easy but it's definitely possible.

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    1. Before we can accept the Bible as a source of data, we need some reason for believing it to be true.

      SO TRUE-- "just because someone consistently believes something doesn't mean that it's likely to be true"... "even if a large number of people consistently believe something, its credibility may be negligible" 1.

      1) Theodore Schick Jr., Lewis Vaughn, How to Think About Weird Things: Critical Thinking for a New Age, (New York: McGraw-Hill Education, 2019), 84, e-book.

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    1. when you got hurt or got beat up or something, and you started crying, nobody comforted you. You just sat in the corner and cried and cried till you got tired of cry-ing then you got up and carried on with life.”36 Nick Sibbeston, who was placed in the Fort Providence school in the Northwest Territories at the age of five, recalled it as a place where children hid their emotions. “In residential school you quickly learn that you should not cry. If you cry you’re teased, you’re shamed out, you’re even punished.”3

      So much about residential schools reminds me of what happened and is continuing to happen in North Korea . Both peoples are stripped of their identities, separated from family, deprived of individual identities, vilified in public, pitted against one another. It's disgusting to see how one group of people will demoralize, dehumanize and disenfranchise another group.

    1. Floyd

      I just got super excited about this having read ahead a bit, as I get this reference now! It's such subtle foreshadowing I didn't even think of it when I originally read this section. Other than Perry's uneasy feelings about the crime, this is the only indicator that it wasn't entirely perfect.

    2. "Perry, baby,"

      I'm always so interested in the dialogue between Perry and Dick, as seen here. It begs the question for me of how much of this Capote knows for sure, and how much is "creative nonfiction," like we talked about in class. To make these fully composed scenes, as Capote does throughout In Cold Blood, I think it makes sense that there has to be a degree of speculation. Capote wasn't there when these things were taking place, and I think it's important to be conscious of the creative liberties he takes. I also always notice this quirk of Dick using pet names for Perry, like "Baby." Does he do this for everyone, or just Perry? It always seems strange to see Dick use these terms, as he is generally described as a very masculine character throughout the reading thus far.

    1. Yet many online educators don’t realize that the best practices in traditional environments should not be discarded simply because the participants are interacting digitally from various locations.

      This is a very interesting topic just because it's something that has been in talks for while. Trying to figure out how to connect with students although its online.

    1. None of these moves would be permitted in any other area of statutory interpretation, and there is no reason why they should be permitted here. That would be the rule of the strong, not the rule of law. 

      It's crazy how the US just kept manipulating treaties and words and using vague terminology to scoop land away from natives.

    1. StoryMaps

      For some reason, I can't get ArcGIS to work on Chrome, so I can't comment inline like I'd want to -- so I'll just put my comments here.

      You Five Keiths system cracked me up. The photos are so good! Alison and Yuanziyi's comments about the non-100 scale percentages make sense -- but I didn't think about/notice it because I'm so bad at math. To attempt to quantify your experience along every stop is (by necessity) very complicated... It's certainly a great idea, if only a starting point.

      The tool is absolutely perfect for your project. You've fitted it to your purpose nicely. One question I've had, though, in going on this "virtual journey" with you, is what your own motivations were for undertaking the pilgrimage. It's clear it was more often than not a grueling, frustrating experience -- so why did you do it? What kept you going? Maybe you mentioned this in your previous iteration, so forgive me if I missed that -- but given the personal emphasis you've adopted with the second iteration (and which is working quite well), I can't help but wonder at this exclusion.

    1. gender inequality remains deeply protected by old-school social norms

      it's the gender inequality at home that is in a way causing just as much damage as gender inequality in the workplace

    1. it is intimidating.

      I could imagine how intimidating it might be to share your own experience to the public in a project like this. And you've done a wonderful job! Just to make this process a bit easier for you, my experience is that sometimes it's helpful to think of it separately as "the part I want to share" and "the part I believe that will be helpful to my audience". For the first part, don't pressure yourself too much on thoughts and experiences that you are uncomfortable to share. Omissions value as much as the inclusions to readers in one's account of his or her personal experience especially, as Shelbi mentioned, "deeply personal, physical, embodied experiences" like pilgrimages. For the second part, it will bring an objective sense and allow you to categorize your experience.

    1. how my Airtable could work as a visualization of my work

      This reminds me of the visualization article we've just read, that it's useful to discover the value of visualization itself as a research process. In this case, Airtable might be the one that you want to engage with. My question here is how do you think that the visual functions of Airtable are sufficient enough to represent your argument?

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    1. how my Airtable could work as a visualization of my work

      This reminds me of the visualization article we've just read, that it's useful to discover the value of visualization itself as a research process. In this case, Airtable might be the one that you want to engage with. My question here is how do you think that the visual functions of Airtable are sufficient enough to represent your argument?

    1. they did not have title to their land—that belonged to the US, but they did have the rights of use and occupancy.

      so they can reside on their land so long as the government doesn't need that land later in the future. It's like renting the land for free in a sense, and when the landowners (USA) wanted the land for their purposes, they just took it because the Indians never had the title to those lands they are residing in

    2. But it was pitched not only as historical fact, but also inevitable historical fact.

      It's really shameful to promote it in this way, the idea that it is just "inevitable" and it is unrealistic and absolutely not true, and it is amazing how the rhetoric of people in power can simply be absorbed by the people.

    1. In 2010, gerrymandering moves into its steroids era. It is highly sophisticated computer software. It's the kinds of mapping software that enables Americans to never have to ask for directions again.

      pathos, verbiage just incites emotional reaction.

    2. it's so easy to click over to Facebook in that dull lecture.

      It is very easy to be be able to just open up a new tab and now retain anything you are learning because you are making sure your social status is ok.

    3. Prof. ROOSEVELT: Well to the extent that the term activism has any useful meaning, I think we would say it's, how often does a judge vote to strike down a state or a federal law? And if you ask that question, the answer is that conservatives are actually more activists than the liberals on the current Supreme Court. You'll see this in cases like affirmative action. So there, you know, you've got a pretty vague provision in the Constitution. It doesn't say race shall never be a factor in university admissions, it just says equal protection of the laws. But the conservative justices have said, essentially, race shall never be a factor and they're not getting that from the Constitution, they're getting it, presumably, from their views of good policy and they're saying our views are going to control not the views of the democratically elected representatives.

      2

    1. so if the community wants something then you have that and there are some there is a feature funding website for open source uh it's just not very user friendly um 01:05:52 there might be more than one

      It is not open source we need so much but open born interoperable capabilities

      What would you rather have Open Source that is not designed to be readily adaptable, reuseable, tinkerable or repurposable

      or Open Capabilities one that you can bring to your world to do its magic on your own(ed) data interoperating with other capabilities at your disposal to accomlish your goal/intent/tasks, instead of you having to go there designed to be readily adaptable, reuseable, tinkerable or repurposable at a price that you hsbr on yout machine for your off line use at the point of first use. You can even have the source with reasonable terms and price

    2. funding so if the community wants something then you have that and there are some there is a feature funding website for open source uh it's just not very user friendly um

      feature funding

    1. Reviewer #3:

      The manuscript by Mioka et al. is the synthesis of a lot of well executed experiments examining a "void" zone in the plasma membrane of yeast cells lacking phosphatidylserine. The authors demonstrate that this is a specialized micron-size domain with many intriguing properties. However, there are several issues that limit my enthusiasm. Some of the experiments are misinterpreted, and there are also inconsistencies and inaccuracies in the text. In my opinion Figure 6 and Figure7 provide little benefit from the primary findings of the paper.

      Other concerns:

      1) The void zones shown are more prevalent at 37C than 30C. This is opposite to the other micron sized phase separation in the yeast vacuole (Rayermann et al., 2017). If this is a Lo domain then rapid oscillations in temperature should control the reversible assembly and disassembly. This should be examined.

      2) It's odd to me that the filipin signal has "thickness" beyond what you would expect if it was confined to a bilayer. In other experiments it appears that the cytosolic fluorescence is also quenched in the vicinity of the voids. This is problematic as every GFP construct examined on the cytosolic side of the PM is excluded. Perhaps these cells actually have ergosterol crystals (a 3D structure) rather than a Lo domain within the bilayer. Given the importance of cholesterol crystals in being a "danger" signal and activating inflammasomes it could be worth examining. This would require specialized imaging techniques.

      3) Spira et al., (2012, NCB). Highlighted the patchwork nature of the plasma membrane. With Pma1 and Ras2 being excluded from one another and proteins with similar TMDs tend to colocalize. This article should be included in the discussion to help place these findings in a greater context. Yet here all of the constructs that are examined are excluded from the void zones. This again suggests to me that this is different from an Lo domain. In the cho1 cells that do not have obvious voids, what is the localization and overlap a few of the well characterized markers Ras2, Pma1, Sur7, Bio5?

      4) Figure 1B shows 40% of cells grown overnight at 37C have voids but Figure 2C shows that they are lost after ~15h. This seems inconsistent.

      5) The authors state that psd1 psd2 are PE-deficient and cho2 opi3 are PC-deficient in the figure. This is incorrect.

      6) Figure 3C is not convincing. Images on the right have substantially more red pixels and so positions where there were voids at 0 min now have a bit of green at 25 min. I also don't understand how the ergosterol rich region is able to quench signal in the cytosol. Is this an extended focus representation of multiple slices?

      7) GPI-linked proteins are crosslinked to the cell wall. The authors' conclusions cannot be drawn from this experiment. The authors could potentially do the same experiment in spheroplasts.

      8) Alternatively, adding rhodamine-PE to the cells could be used to assess the partitioning in the outer leaflet.

      9) The significance of the vacuole - void contact is unclear. Typically, ~50% of the PM is in close apposition to cER in yeast. In mammalian cells it is known that cortical actin can restrict ER-PM contact sites formation. Thus, it could simply be that in the absence of cER that the Vacuole will come in close proximity to the PM. This can be tested by using a strain deficient in reticulons or the so-called delta tether or delta super-tether cells. If these cells also display Vac - PM contacts, then I don't see the relevance of including this figure in this study.

      10) Vacuole - void contacts are seen in roughly 50% of the cells with voids. In the cells that don't have this V-V contact do they have the nucleus or nER in contact with the PM? This is related to the above point. Is this simply a result of removing the cER and making the PM available?

      11) Figure 7 is unnecessary and just makes things more complicated. It actually detracts from the main findings since it is just a collection of observations. For instance, how would loss of the HOPS complex prevent Lo phase separation in the plasma membrane? Do these cells have less total cellular or plasmalemmal ergosterol? Do the levels of complex sphingolipids change?

      12) Provide a reference or a direct measurement showing that growing cells in pH7.0 medium impacts the cytosolic pH.

    1. small questions

      a large part of organizing a club is just making sure it's accommodating for everyone involved :-) i think most of these questions center around that! though of course that's also just the natural duty of a leader.

      does ccny have a book club... i know we don't have a creative writing club which is making me a little crazy. we need one asap

    2. chat with book clubs

      this is more of a class matter than a club matter, but i remember in fifth grade, our teacher called the author of the book we were reading as a class so we could ask her questions about it. the book was called edward's eyes and it was by patricia maclachlan. she had written it years in advance, i think, and struggled with some of our questions (probably b/c they were silly ones being asked by 10 year olds). i remember someone asked why the book was called edward's eyes and she said that was catchier than bobby's eyes which i thought was pretty funny. i really liked that book, i borrowed it from the library the summer vacation before middle school and i think i lied that i lost it so i could pay the fine and keep it though i think....the smarter decision... would've been to just buy the book?

      anyway that was a pretty neat experience. meeting with authors should definitely be a big part of book clubs! it's always interesting to contextualize the perspective of a piece of writing with its writer, and in some cases, it's necessary in order to understand them.

    1. At the far horizon of EGS is “super hot rock” geothermal, which seeks to tap into extremely deep, extremely hot rock.

      siphoning off energy from the spinning magnetohydrodynamic EM shield of spaceship earth seems like an obviously just terrible awful gobsmackingly bad plan for the future.

      there's absolutely no renewing this energy source. yes it's a big battery. but one that we really really hope never runs out. let's not tap it?

    1. how songs become memes that are passed down through oral traditions and influenced by recordings and ads.

      It' really does represent how content is recycled in our time. Old designs, samples, and other popular influences are tied to an art expression. Sometimes even used incorrectly but always changing.Once it's used as a feel good or a laugh, the meaning behind something either becomes ingrained as just that,or a joke and a quick laugh. Making it more related because of the popular usage.

    1. The materials "often do everything they can to hide the blemishes of this country that we need to fix,"

      I hate to say it but it's true. We're the hero's in our history books when we bombed Japan because they were on the opposite side of us in WW2. In Japanese history books we're the villain for that. We need to fix our history books to acknowledge the other side, just like other countries should to.

    1. However, be the allurements of different callings what they may, of a woman's inalienable right to choose for herself I cannot understand that [p. 792] there should be any question. And, if a woman has abilities to follow various professions, and the right to choose which she will, is it just or is it honorable so to manage her education that she never would follow, never would choose, but the one ? If her teachers decide for her what she ought to be, if they foreordain her to some one career, and then instruct her accordingly, she never has any real freedom or any real choice. In every trial both sides are supposed to get a hearing before judgment is pronounced; our sense of fair play demands that. It seems to me only an affair of common honesty to educate a girl so that she really comprehends more than one possibility in her life. A biased education is half truth and half lie. A woman's education, like a man's education, should fit her to make a free and intelligent choice of a life-occupation, A woman's education should place within her reach the possibility of economic independence; that is to say, the possibility of competing with men. For the woman who does not marry, economic independence is, of course, almost indispensable. But for the woman who does marry this possibility is hardly less desirable. I am not saying that a married woman ought actually to be earning an independent living, but I do say that she ought to be so educated that such a thing is within her power.

      Here we see again the problem of men trying to "specialize" women's education to fit into the mold of what they deem necessary. Gordan's argument is to allow women to compete with men's education, allow the woman to choose on her own, the direction of her education and how far she wishes to take it. It's all about freedom of choice.

    1. The best teachers don’t just keep teaching. Instead, they use their pedagogy as protest: They disrupt teaching norms that harm vulnerable students. In my years in the classroom since 2001, I’ve learned something about how to do this. I call it reality pedagogy, because it’s about reaching students where they really are, making sure that their lives and backgrounds are reflected in the curriculum and in classroom conversations.

      "The best teachers don't just stop teaching" really spoke to me because i believe this statement is important when it comes time for students to fully trust and invest into teachers that are patient enough to stay and continuously building off of their foundation .

    1. .2

      the authors clarify the definition of conspiracy theory and emphasize that just because something is a conspiracy doesn't mean it's false - we need to not use that term to label anything we don't like as fake

    Annotators

    1. It’s Angela who won’t talk to her now, and the tenth time Mrs. Hall knocks on their front door and no one answers, Claire’s father gets a restraining order. Claire tells the reporter Aaron was a friend, that she was drunk and he was tak-ing her home, but the bones of that story don’t convince anyone it wasn’t all, at best, a tragic misunderstanding; at worst, a danger she didn’t see coming. Claire tells the reporter some innocuous nice thing about Seraphin’s boyfriend, and the paper calls him one of her best friends, after which she stops trying to explain

      Claire know the relationship between her and Aaron wasn't just a regular friend, and they were actually very close. Which I felt as though she didn't explain properly to the reporter, knowing how easily stories can be twisted when its a black person involved.

    2. Mrs. Hall walks out of the hospital in full remission. Not a trace of the cancer left. Her hair grows back, soft and downy. She takes up running to drop the steroid weight. She is working up to marathons. Angela trains with her

      Characterization it’s shown that Claire’s das had moved on and found another woman to confront him and Claire Isnt happy because her mom just passed away from cancer and has a new step mother which makes her really mad

    3. “I’m here in support of your right to free expression,” he says.“Don’t take this personally,” Claire says, “but unless you’re here in support of my right to go to bed early, I don’t care. I don’t care about any of this. It was just a stupid picture.”“And you shouldn’t be punished for it,

      Though Claire knows she has done something worng, she can use her right to free expression as an escapegoat to this problem. It's her right to use free expression, but it can also be seen as a privilege that only she has "Free access" to.

    1. Using the tablet computer, players then enter themonth of the year shown on the board and spin for random weather condi-tions that simulate the climate of the U.S. Midwest. For example, in January aplayer might spin a high temperature of 30°F (–1°C) and a low temperature of12°F (–11°C).

      Clearly this person has not been in Iowa, Wisconsin or Minnesota when it's -37 F and you throw a pot of boiling water outside just to see flash away. :)

    1. “[rewriting] American history to teach our children that we were founded on the principle of oppression, not freedom.”

      It's true that America was founded on the principle of freedom, however one of the main reasons we were able to keep our freedoms and become such a superpower, was the oppression of others. America's history is ugly at times and just because some people don't want to think about that side of history doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Even if you were to erase the history of slavery and racism, it would not erase the long lasting effects of these things that we still see today

    1. “Why is school so expensive? I think our whole educational system is broken, and it’s an exploitative situation, however you cut it.”

      Agreed. The fact that people must resort to these things just to further their education is absurd. Education should be made for everyone at an equal and fair price.

    1. As such, DNA methylation affects ecological and evolutionary processes at all biological levels, from individuals (phenotypic variation) to the ecosystem level (Latzel et al., 2013).

      Very interesting to think that DNA methylation can effect so many processes in our everyday life. Before this class, I never really thought about just how important the topic of DNA methylation is and why it's so important to study it

    1. Bartleby, The Scrivener: A Story Of Wall-street

      The title of this story gives us a lot of information right off the bat, which is not the most common thing to see with short stories. Or at least, it's not something I've seen that often when reading short stories, maybe it is common and I just haven't noticed. Anyway, we are given the name of a character who will most likely be important to the story if they've been named in the title, the occupation of said character (Bartleby is a clerk or scribe according to the definition of 'Scrivener'), and the setting which is Wall-Street. I find it a bit odd that the author capitalized 'Of' and not 'street' in the title, which Erin also pointed out, but this could just be a style choice of some kind made by the author. However, it could also have some sort of significance, though I have no idea what that could be if it does. Overall, there is a lot of information given in just the title of the short story, which I think is abnormal.

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    1. En un plano más práctico, la próxima vez que escuchemos/usemos cierta expresión o tengamos un comportamiento que conlleve referencias a un grupo étnico, quizás podamos preguntarnos si realmente sabemos al 100% que ese acto no tiene consecuencias para los miembros de ese grupo.

      Is he talking about language crossing? From my understanding, he is saying that obvious racism is legally penalized but language crossing, a dominant group talking like a minority group, is also just as bad. What modern case of language crossing is so dangerous that it needs urgency in the US? He connects language crossing to blackface, but if language crossing was so offensive, and it's a part of modern culture, I think there would be more uproar.

    1. People would come in and try to get information, and they'd just make them sit out in hard, old wooden chairs. I had no idea at that point that it was their own money

      gosh discrimination at it's finest and dismissing these peoples pleas because they deadass need the money to survive is so frustrating. And this has occurred for so long.

    1. Second, the doctrine of discovery functioned under the European Law of Nations as part of a transnational legal discourse, considered authoritative, for regulating the claims of European racial superiority over the Indian tribes of the New World. According to the Marshall Model of Indian Rights, under this principle of white racial superiority, the rights of conquest and colonization belonging to Great Britain as fi rst European discoverer of the tribes of North America and the lands they occupied had devolved to the United States when it won the Revolutionary War. Under the doctrine of discovery, the United States possessed the “exclusive right to extinguis

      I find it interesting that essentially the "discovery" rights that the English settlers had due to them coming to America first, even though technically the Spanish also came to colonize at the same time. Also, if Americans had it due to winning the war, then it's really just a long line of dumb rationalization for why they get to colonize

    1. “There’s nothing new aboutthe neuroscience ideas of responsibility; it’s just another material, causalexplanation of human behavior,”

      Why some people believe that the fears of neurolaw are overblown.

    Annotators

    1. POINT OF VIEW

      The author tells the story from Grant’s point of view, since the narrator follows him around throughout the entire story, and the reader sees and hears the same things as Grant does. Therefore, we never know what happens in the nursing home unless he goes there to visit his wife. The narrator only mentions the relationship between Fiona and Aubrey once Grant sees them playing cards together.

      Here’s an instance of Free Indirect Discourse: “The new notes were different. Stuck onto the kitchen drawers—Cutlery, Dish-towels, Knives. Couldn’t she just open the drawers and see what was inside?” The last sentence appears to be a question that the narrator is asking, when in fact it’s a question that Grant asks to himself.

      Gonzalo Santiago Salinardi

      DNI 30832618

    2. The Bear Came Over the Mountain

      About the THEME and the title. It's not an easy one and I think it can have different opinions so it would be nice for us to discuss this one. To me, personally, I think the meaning behind the title is much more deeper than just a "children song title". The song contains lyrics saying that all the bear saw was the other side of the mountain. Sometimes we think we have to get to the other side because there are better things waiting for us, but the other side is just a mirage. Like it happened with Grant. He had plenty of opportunities to make it up to Fiona for the things he's done, and yet when he got the last chance, he decided to commit infidelity once again. So the bear saw the other side of the mountain, and there was nothing new; no process, nothing, just a mirage of its own mountain.

    1. Specifically, main effect of timeon quiz scoreswas most notable for leastfamiliaritems (i.e. the Bayes factorsitems which incurred the highest proportion of “I don’t know” responses) and more problematicitems(i.e. the confidence intervalswhich incurredhigh proportions of incorrect responses

      This interpretation is reasonable. But it's also possible that Bayes and CI are just easier to teach than p values.

    1. This story is told and retold so many times that it has become ingrained in everyone’s heads.

      explain whyyyy!!!! it's not a secret. Just say racism. you coward.

    1. “Namasté (the God in me sees and honors the God in you).”When I had the privilege of teaching a gr

      This reminds me of Danny Silks, "Culture of Honor: Sustaining a Supernatural Environment." It is the Christian call to return that culture back to one of honor. Namaste, which recognizes the elephant in the room, the spiritual component and influence of something outside self that shines and lights and inspires, surely will not require agreement on religion but it certainly does call forth the principle of honor which should be present in all religions. Surely we can meet there and learners, who have observed or participated in the slicing, dishonor of social media will welcome learning a more honorable way. I agree with Koch, surely, it's time. We just practiced the mutual blessing of namaste in our online writing circle and I believe it did charge our time as we moved through the PQS protocol.

    1. “I just hang on to the fact that my job is good in some larger sense,” she says on the corporate Web site. “If people buy the sprouts, they’re eating healthier foods, the farmer is doing well, and it’s good for the planet because they’re grown organically.”

      Shapin here uses this quote for pathos. Making the consumer feel proud when they buy organic, that they are saving the earth, saves the ecosystem etc. Shapin also uses ethos stating who says this quote and tells s it's a graduate. I find this effective because it states the opinion of a worker which we can find trustworthy.

    1. The beauteous Adonis is dead.

      This is the third time that this has been said and it's only the 4th line. The repetition of this line just shows how significant the death is.

    1. Mid-career is the worst time for academics and professional staff to be up to date with technology: I've just been reviewing some audits that show that older and more secure academic staff may actually have more time to experiment and are more confident to admit they need to learn. It's all about having time, having opportunities for 'peer supported experimentation' - which turns out to be the best way to learn new technical tricks, and of course, having some incentive.

      This is an interesting point for when we are thinking about how to embed digital literacy throughout an educational institution.

    1. And while Latinos want people to understand how systemic racism in education, housing and wealth affects them, they are also grappling with an entrenched assumption that racism is a black-and-white issue, which can make it challenging to gain a foothold in the national conversation.

      It's interesting to read that just like African Americans, latinos to have some sort of community divide.

    Annotators

    1. Morgan suggests that all individuals are motivated by a specific hierarchy of needs characterized by psychological, physiological, and social needs.

      this. is the internal health part. maybe mention earlier that there are two parts, internal and external, that this metaphor draws our attention to. it's not just the org in env context but also what's happening inside the organism/organization

    1. It's just the beasts under your bedIn your closet in your head

      The three prepositions in a row give the Metallica song an unending feel, but not in a /bad/ way just in a bad way in the sense that this song is terrifying. The nightmarish tone is added to be this sentence structure. The feeling of the nightmare being inescapable, in that they are under the bed and in your closet AND in your head. I know this has been noted before but the imperative structure also makes this scary. Its a command to endure these bad things.

    1. Reviewer #2:

      This human psychophysics study claims to provide more evidence in support of the popular notion that visual processing of faces may involve partially independent processes for the analysis of static information such as facial shape versus dynamic information such as facial expression. In this respect the scientific hypotheses and conclusions are not novel, although some of the methods (parametric variation of facial expression dynamics using computer-generated animations) and analyses (Bayesian generative modeling of expression dynamics) are relatively new. Although the science is rigorously conducted, the paper currently feels heavy on statistics and technical details but light on data, compelling results and clear interpretation. However, the main problem is that the study fails to provide sufficient controls to support its central claims as currently formulated.

      Concerns:

      1) A central claim of the paper and the first words in the title are that the behavior studied (categorization of facial expression dynamics) is "shape-invariant". However, the lack of variation in facial shapes (n = 2) used here limits the strength of the conclusions that can be drawn, and it certainly remains an open question whether representations of facial expression dynamics are truly "shape-invariant". A simple control would have been to vary the viewing angle of the avatars, in order to dissociate 3D object shapes from their 2D projections (images). The authors also claim that "face shapes differ considerably" (line 49) amongst primate species, which is clearly true in absolute terms. However, the structural similarity of simian primate facial morphology (i.e. humans and macaques used here) is striking when compared to various non-primate species, which naturally raises questions about just how shape-invariant facial expression recognition is. The lack of data to more thoroughly support the central claim is problematic.

      2) As the authors note, macaque and human facial expressions of 'fear' and 'threat' differ considerably in visual salience and motion content - both in 3D and their 2D projections (i.e. optic flow). Indeed, the decision to 'match' expressions across species based on semantic meaning rather than physical muscle activations is a central problem here. Figure 1A illustrates clearly the relative subtlety of the human expression compared to the macaque avatar's extreme open-mouthed pose, while Fig 1D (right panels) shows that this is also true of macaque expressions mapped onto the human avatar. The authors purportedly controlled for this in an 'optic-flow equilibrated' experiment that produced similar results. However, this crucial control is currently difficult to assess since the control stimuli are not illustrated and the description of their creation (in the supplementary materials) is rather convoluted and obfuscates what the actual control stimuli were.

      The results of this control experiment that are presented (hidden away in supplementary Fig S3C) show that subjects rated the equilibrated stimuli at similar levels of expressiveness for the human vs macaque avatars. However, what the reader really needs to know is whether subjects rated the human vs macaque expression dynamics to be similarly expressive (irrespective of avatar)? My understanding is that species expression (and not species face shape) is the variable that the authors were attempting to equilibrate for.

      In short, the authors have not presented data to convince a reader that their equilibrated stimuli resolve the obvious confound in their original stimuli (namely the correlation between low level visual salience - especially around the mouth region- and the species of the expression dynamics).

      3) This paper appears to be the human psychophysics component of work that the authors have recently published using the macaque avatar. The separate paper (Siebert et al., 2020 - eNeuro) reported basic macaque behavioral responses to similar animations, while the task here takes advantage of the more advanced behavioral methods that are possible in human subjects. Nevertheless, the emphasis of the current paper on cross-species perception begs the question - how do macaques perceive these stimuli. Do the authors have any macaque behavioral data for these stimuli (even if not for the 4AFC task) that could be included to round this out? If not, I recommend rewording the title since it's current grammatical structure implies that the encoding is "across species", whereas encoding of species (shape and expression) was only tested in one species (humans).

    1. without alternatives

      This goes exactly along the lines of what I was saying in the summer assignment. Desperate people do desperate things, it's just that simple.

    1. Technology in the Classroom: What the Research Tells Us

      Very interesting read about using personal technology in the classroom, including laptops and cell phones. Cell phones? I've never considered a cell phone as a useful tool in the classroom, and the authors agree, citing research that indicates cellphone users in the classroom perform half a grade lower than students who don't use them. I just assumed that all along, so it's nice to hear it's confirmed by research. The article goes a step further and discusses not only useful technology but the misuse of technology in the classroom, which is certainly helpful for a perspective teacher. Also a pretty cool website with news, reports, data, research, and even a place to search for education jobs. Solid 8/10 rating.

    1. I find this article very interesting, because I think everyone assumes men are rarely victims of sexual assault and the fact that it’s 38 percent that is known, As mentioned definitely surprises a lot of people. I like that they began a investigation, research on sexual victims being “perpetrated by women” because that will uncover many cases and show that the assumptions people make of men being the ones to assault almost all the time. for women prisoners and girls in detention, staff perpetrators are overwhelmingly male, and for men and boys the staff perpetrators are overwhelmingly female.” This is crazy to think that it’s this common for opposite genders to assault in prisons and in other places, especially the staff, this makes me think there are a lot more cases on women sexually assaulting men and just more sexual cases in general for both genders.

    2. eminism has fought long and hard to fight rape myths—that if a woman gets raped it’s somehow her fault, that she welcomed it in some way. But the same conversation needs to happen for men.”

      I agree with this so much! I already said this in a previous annotation but the assumption that only women get raped just makes it so much harder than it already is for victims to get help and speak up. I've witnessed that in men's cases they were told they were "supposed to enjoy it" and other men would say things like "How could you have not wanted to have sex?" or something to that effect, so I wish more people would tell men that it's not their fault if it happened and they weren't "supposed to like it."

    3. heterosexism can render lesbian and bisexual victims of female-perpetrated sexual victimization invisible to professionals.”

      It's important to remember throughout all these studies and statistics that female sexual predators aren't just sexually abusing men; their powers of abuse won't automatically end up on the opposite sex, as they will also abuse women

    4. feminism has fought long and hard to fight rape myths—that if a woman gets raped it’s somehow her fault, that she welcomed it in some way. But the same conversation needs to happen for men.

      I think that this is an interesting/important quote. I think that it is an important conversation to have for everyone because it really isn't just men raping or sexually assaulting women, it goes both ways. Growing up I was only told about the horror stories of men attacking women, but rarely would it be women attacking men.

    1. To be White is to colludein these practices, or to risk censure as "having no sense ofhumor" or being "politically correct." But White practiceis invisible to the monitoring of linguistic disorder. It is notunderstood by Whites as disorder—after all, they are not,literally, "speaking Spanish" (and indeed the phenomenaof public ungrammaticality, orthographical absurdity,and parodic mispronunciations of Spanish are evidencethat they go to some lengths to distance themselves fromsuch an interpretation of their behavior [Hill 1993a]). In-stead, they are simply being "natural": funny, relaxed, col-loquial, authentic.

      The same excuses are used even today when being politically correct, being even mildly respectful, and not appreciating racial, sexist and xenophobic jokes means one does not have a sense of humor. The author is being very clear that people participating in these activities often do not want to be categorized as someone who has a linguistic disorder but rather it's categorized as just being "relaxed" and "funny"

    1. It’s impossible for an employer to discriminate against a gay or transgender person without taking into account the person’s sex, which would mean discriminating on that basis,

      This makes me happy, so many people a part of the LGBTQ community have been targeted in every way possible, this is just another step into the right direction. There is still so much more steps to go.

    1. If the react cargo cult didn't have the JSX cowpath paved for them and acclimated to describing their app interface with vanilla javascript, they'd cargo cult around that. It's really about the path of least resistance and familiarity.
    2. hyperscript is more concise because it's just a function call and doesn't require a closing tag. Using it will greatly simplify your tooling chain.

      I suppose this is also an argument that Python tries to make? That other languages have this con:

      • cons: closing tags make it more verbose / increase duplication and that Python is simpler / more concise because it uses indentation instead of closing delimiters like end or } ?
    1. The first time I opened Peter Singer’s “Animal Liberation,” I was dining alone at the Palm, trying to enjoy a rib-eye steak cooked medium-rare. If this sounds like a good recipe for cognitive dissonance (if not indigestion), that was sort of the idea. Preposterous as it might seem, to supporters of animal rights, what I was doing was tantamount to reading “Uncle Tom’s Cabin” on a plantation in the Deep South in 1852. Singer and the swelling ranks of his followers ask us to imagine a future in which people will look back on my meal, and this steakhouse, as relics of an equally backward age. Eating animals, wearing animals, experimenting on animals, killing animals for sport: all these practices, so resolutely normal to us, will be seen as the barbarities they are, and we will come to view “speciesism”–a neologism I had encountered before only in jokes–as a form of discrimination as indefensible as racism or anti-Semitism. Even in 1975, when “Animal Liberation” was first published, Singer, an Australian philosopher now teaching at Princeton, was confident that he had the wind of history at his back. The recent civil rights past was prologue, as one liberation movement followed on the heels of another. Slowly but surely, the white man’s circle of moral consideration was expanded to admit first blacks, then women, then homosexuals. In each case, a group once thought to be so different from the prevailing “we” as to be undeserving of civil rights was, after a struggle, admitted to the club. Now it was animals’ turn. That animal liberation is the logical next step in the forward march of moral progress is no longer the fringe idea it was back in 1975. A growing and increasingly influential movement of philosophers, ethicists, law professors and activists are convinced that the great moral struggle of our time will be for the rights of animals. So far the movement has scored some of its biggest victories in Europe. Earlier this year, Germany became the first nation to grant animals a constitutional right: the words “and animals” were added to a provision obliging the state to respect and protect the dignity of human beings. The farming of animals for fur was recently banned in England. In several European nations, sows may no longer be confined to crates nor laying hens to “battery cages”–stacked wired cages so small the birds cannot stretch their wings. The Swiss are amending their laws to change the status of animals from “things” to “beings.” Though animals are still very much “things” in the eyes of American law, change is in the air. Thirty-seven states have recently passed laws making some forms of animal cruelty a crime, 21 of them by ballot initiative. Following protests by activists, McDonald’s and Burger King forced significant improvements in the way the U.S. meat industry slaughters animals. Agribusiness and the cosmetics and apparel industries are all struggling to defuse mounting public concerns over animal welfare. Once thought of as a left-wing concern, the movement now cuts across ideological lines. Perhaps the most eloquent recent plea on behalf of animals, a new book called “Dominion,” was written by a former speechwriter for President Bush. And once outlandish ideas are finding their way into mainstream opinion. A recent Zogby poll found that 51 percent of Americans believe that primates are entitled to the same rights as human children. What is going on here? A certain amount of cultural confusion, for one thing. For at the same time many people seem eager to extend the circle of our moral consideration to animals, in our factory farms and laboratories we are inflicting more suffering on more animals than at any time in history. One by one, science is dismantling our claims to uniqueness as a species, discovering that such things as culture, tool making, language and even possibly self-consciousness are not the exclusive domain of Homo sapiens. Yet most of the animals we kill lead lives organized very much in the spirit of Descartes, who famously claimed that animals were mere machines, incapable of thought or feeling. There’s a schizoid quality to our relationship with animals, in which sentiment and brutality exist side by side. Half the dogs in America will receive Christmas presents this year, yet few of us pause to consider the miserable life of the pig–an animal easily as intelligent as a dog–that becomes the Christmas ham. We tolerate this disconnect because the life of the pig has moved out of view. When’s the last time you saw a pig? (Babe doesn’t count.) Except for our pets, real animals–animals living and dying–no longer figure in our everyday lives. Meat comes from the grocery store, where it is cut and packaged to look as little like parts of animals as possible. The disappearance of animals from our lives has opened a space in which there’s no reality check, either on the sentiment or the brutality. This is pretty much where we live now, with respect to animals, and it is a space in which the Peter Singers and Frank Perdues of the world can evidently thrive equally well. Several years ago, the English critic John Berger wrote an essay, “Why Look at Animals?” in which he suggested that the loss of everyday contact between ourselves and animals–and specifically the loss of eye contact–has left us deeply confused about the terms of our relationship to other species. That eye contact, always slightly uncanny, had provided a vivid daily reminder that animals were at once crucially like and unlike us; in their eyes we glimpsed something unmistakably familiar (pain, fear, tenderness) and something irretrievably alien. Upon this paradox people built a relationship in which they felt they could both honor and eat animals without looking away. But that accommodation has pretty much broken down; nowadays, it seems, we either look away or become vegetarians. For my own part, neither option seemed especially appetizing. Which might explain how I found myself reading “Animal Liberation” in a steakhouse. This is not something I’d recommend if you’re determined to continue eating meat. Combining rigorous philosophical argument with journalistic description, “Animal Liberation” is one of those rare books that demand that you either defend the way you live or change it. Because Singer is so skilled in argument, for many readers it is easier to change. His book has converted countless thousands to vegetarianism, and it didn’t take long for me to see why: within a few pages, he had succeeded in throwing me on the defensive. Singer’s argument is disarmingly simple and, if you accept its premises, difficult to refute. Take the premise of equality, which most people readily accept. Yet what do we really mean by it? People are not, as a matter of fact, equal at all–some are smarter than others, better looking, more gifted. “Equality is a moral idea,” Singer points out, “not an assertion of fact.” The moral idea is that everyone’s interests ought to receive equal consideration, regardless of “what abilities they may possess.” Fair enough; many philosophers have gone this far. But fewer have taken the next logical step. “If possessing a higher degree of intelligence does not entitle one human to use another for his or her own ends, how can it entitle humans to exploit nonhumans for the same purpose?” This is the nub of Singer’s argument, and right around here I began scribbling objections in the margin. But humans differ from animals in morally significant ways. Yes they do, Singer acknowledges, which is why we shouldn’t treat pigs and children alike. Equal consideration of interests is not the same as equal treatment, he points out: children have an interest in being educated; pigs, in rooting around in the dirt. But where their interests are the same, the principle of equality demands they receive the same consideration. And the one all-important interest that we share with pigs, as with all sentient creatures, is an interest in avoiding pain. Here Singer quotes a famous passage from Jeremy Bentham, the 18th-century utilitarian philosopher, that is the wellspring of the animal rights movement. Bentham was writing in 1789, soon after the French colonies freed black slaves, granting them fundamental rights. “The day may come,” he speculates, “when the rest of the animal creation may acquire those rights.” Bentham then asks what characteristic entitles any being to moral consideration. “Is it the faculty of reason or perhaps the faculty of discourse?” Obviously not, since “a full-grown horse or dog is beyond comparison a more rational, as well as a more conversable animal, than an infant.” He concludes: “The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?” Bentham here is playing a powerful card philosophers call the “argument from marginal cases,” or A.M.C. for short. It goes like this: there are humans–infants, the severely retarded, the demented–whose mental function cannot match that of a chimpanzee. Even though these people cannot reciprocate our moral attentions, we nevertheless include them in the circle of our moral consideration. So on what basis do we exclude the chimpanzee? Because he’s a chimp, I furiously scribbled in the margin, and they’re human! For Singer that’s not good enough. To exclude the chimp from moral consideration simply because he’s not human is no different from excluding the slave simply because he’s not white. In the same way we’d call that exclusion racist, the animal rightist contends that it is speciesist to discriminate against the chimpanzee solely because he’s not human. But the differences between blacks and whites are trivial compared with the differences between my son and a chimp. Singer counters by asking us to imagine a hypothetical society that discriminates against people on the basis of something nontrivial–say, intelligence. If that scheme offends our sense of equality, then why is the fact that animals lack certain human characteristics any more just as a basis for discrimination? Either we do not owe any justice to the severely retarded, he concludes, or we do owe it to animals with higher capabilities. This is where I put down my fork. If I believe in equality, and equality is based on interests rather than characteristics, then either I have to take the interests of the steer I’m eating into account or concede that I am a speciesist. For the time being, I decided to plead guilty as charged. I finished my steak. But Singer had planted a troubling notion, and in the days afterward, it grew and grew, watered by the other animal rights thinkers I began reading: the philosophers Tom Regan and James Rachels; the legal theorist Steven M. Wise; the writers Joy Williams and Matthew Scully. I didn’t think I minded being a speciesist, but could it be, as several of these writers suggest, that we will someday come to regard speciesism as an evil comparable to racism? Will history someday judge us as harshly as it judges the Germans who went about their ordinary lives in the shadow of Treblinka? Precisely that question was recently posed by J.M. Coetzee, the South African novelist, in a lecture delivered at Princeton; he answered it in the affirmative. If animal rightists are right, “a crime of stupefying proportions” (in Coetzee’s words) is going on all around us every day, just beneath our notice. It’s an idea almost impossible to entertain seriously, much less to accept, and in the weeks following my restaurant face-off between Singer and the steak, I found myself marshaling whatever mental power I could muster to try to refute it. Yet Singer and his allies managed to trump almost all my objections. My first line of defense was obvious. Animals kill one another all the time. Why treat animals more ethically than they treat one another? (Ben Franklin tried this one long before me: during a fishing trip, he wondered, “If you eat one another, I don’t see why we may not eat you.” He admits, however, that the rationale didn’t occur to him until the fish were in the frying pan, smelling “admirably well.” The advantage of being a “reasonable creature,” Franklin remarks, is that you can find a reason for whatever you want to do.) To the “they do it, too” defense, the animal rightist has a devastating reply: do you really want to base your morality on the natural order? Murder and rape are natural, too. Besides, humans don’t need to kill other creatures in order to survive; animals do. (Though if my cat, Otis, is any guide, animals sometimes kill for sheer pleasure.) This suggests another defense. Wouldn’t life in the wild be worse for these farm animals? “Defenders of slavery imposed on black Africans often made a similar point,” Singer retorts. “The life of freedom is to be preferred.” But domesticated animals can’t survive in the wild; in fact, without us they wouldn’t exist at all. Or as one 19th-century political philosopher put it, “The pig has a stronger interest than anyone in the demand for bacon. If all the world were Jewish, there would be no pigs at all.” But it turns out that this would be fine by the animal rightists: for if pigs don’t exist, they can’t be wronged. Animals on factory farms have never known any other life. Singer replies that “animals feel a need to exercise, stretch their limbs or wings, groom themselves and turn around, whether or not they have ever lived in conditions that permit this.” The measure of their suffering is not their prior experiences but the unremitting daily frustration of their instincts. O.K., the suffering of animals is a legitimate problem, but the world is full of problems, and surely human problems must come first! Sounds good, and yet all the animal people are asking me to do is to stop eating meat and wearing animal furs and hides. There’s no reason I can’t devote myself to solving humankind’s problems while being a vegetarian who wears synthetics. But doesn’t the fact that we could choose to forgo meat for moral reasons point to a crucial moral difference between animals and humans? As Kant pointed out, the human being is the only moral animal, the only one even capable of entertaining a concept of “rights.” What’s wrong with reserving moral consideration for those able to reciprocate it? Right here is where you run smack into the A.M.C.: the moral status of the retarded, the insane, the infant and the Alzheimer’s patient. Such “marginal cases,” in the detestable argot of modern moral philosophy, cannot participate in moral decision making any more than a monkey can, yet we nevertheless grant them rights. That’s right, I respond, for the simple reason that they’re one of us. And all of us have been, and will probably once again be, marginal cases ourselves. What’s more, these people have fathers and mothers, daughters and sons, which makes our interest in their welfare deeper than our interest in the welfare of even the most brilliant ape. Alas, none of these arguments evade the charge of speciesism; the racist, too, claims that it’s natural to give special consideration to one’s own kind. A utilitarian like Singer would agree, however, that the feelings of relatives do count for something. Yet the principle of equal consideration of interests demands that, given the choice between performing a painful medical experiment on a severely retarded orphan and on a normal ape, we must sacrifice the child. Why? Because the ape has a greater capacity for pain. Here in a nutshell is the problem with the A.M.C.: it can be used to help the animals, but just as often it winds up hurting the marginal cases. Giving up our speciesism will bring us to a moral cliff from which we may not be prepared to jump, even when logic is pushing us. And yet this isn’t the moral choice I am being asked to make. (Too bad; it would be so much easier!) In everyday life, the choice is not between babies and chimps but between the pork and the tofu. Even if we reject the “hard utilitarianism” of a Peter Singer, there remains the question of whether we owe animals that can feel pain any moral consideration, and this seems impossible to deny. And if we do owe them moral consideration, how can we justify eating them? This is why killing animals for meat (and clothing) poses the most difficult animal rights challenge. In the case of animal testing, all but the most radical animal rightists are willing to balance the human benefit against the cost to the animals. That’s because the unique qualities of human consciousness carry weight in the utilitarian calculus: human pain counts for more than that of a mouse, since our pain is amplified by emotions like dread; similarly, our deaths are worse than an animal’s because we understand what death is in a way they don’t. So the argument over animal testing is really in the details: is this particular procedure or test really necessary to save human lives? (Very often it’s not, in which case we probably shouldn’t do it.) But if humans no longer need to eat meat or wear skins, then what exactly are we putting on the human side of the scale to outweigh the interests of the animal? I suspect that this is finally why the animal people managed to throw me on the defensive. It’s one thing to choose between the chimp and the retarded child or to accept the sacrifice of all those pigs surgeons practiced on to develop heart-bypass surgery. But what happens when the choice is between “a lifetime of suffering for a nonhuman animal and the gastronomic preference of a human being?” You look away–or you stop eating animals. And if you don’t want to do either? Then you have to try to determine if the animals you’re eating have really endured “a lifetime of suffering.” Whether our interest in eating animals outweighs their interest in not being eaten (assuming for the moment that is their interest) turns on the vexed question of animal suffering. Vexed, because it is impossible to know what really goes on in the mind of a cow or a pig or even an ape. Strictly speaking, this is true of other humans, too, but since humans are all basically wired the same way, we have excellent reason to assume that other people’s experience of pain feels much like our own. Can we say that about animals? Yes and no. I have yet to find anyone who still subscribes to Descartes’s belief that animals cannot feel pain because they lack a soul. The general consensus among scientists and philosophers is that when it comes to pain, the higher animals are wired much like we are for the same evolutionary reasons, so we should take the writhings of the kicked dog at face value. Indeed, the very premise of a great deal of animal testing–the reason it has value–is that animals’ experience of physical and even some psychological pain closely resembles our own. Otherwise, why would cosmetics testers drip chemicals into the eyes of rabbits to see if they sting? Why would researchers study head trauma by traumatizing chimpanzee heads? Why would psychologists attempt to induce depression and “learned helplessness” in dogs by exposing them to ceaseless random patterns of electrical shock? That said, it can be argued that human pain differs from animal pain by an order of magnitude. This qualitative difference is largely the result of our possession of language and, by virtue of language, an ability to have thoughts about thoughts and to imagine alternatives to our current reality. The philosopher Daniel C. Dennett suggests that we would do well to draw a distinction between pain, which a great many animals experience, and suffering, which depends on a degree of self-consciousness only a few animals appear to command. Suffering in this view is not just lots of pain but pain intensified by human emotions like loss, sadness, worry, regret, self-pity, shame, humiliation and dread. Consider castration. No one would deny the procedure is painful to animals, yet animals appear to get over it in a way humans do not. (Some rhesus monkeys competing for mates will bite off a rival’s testicle; the very next day the victim may be observed mating, seemingly little the worse for wear.) Surely the suffering of a man able to comprehend the full implications of castration, to anticipate the event and contemplate its aftermath, represents an agony of another order. By the same token, however, language and all that comes with it can also make certain kinds of pain more bearable. A trip to the dentist would be a torment for an ape that couldn’t be made to understand the purpose and duration of the procedure. As humans contemplating the pain and suffering of animals, we do need to guard against projecting on to them what the same experience would feel like to us. Watching a steer force-marched up the ramp to the kill-floor door, as I have done, I need to remind myself that this is not Sean Penn in “Dead Man Walking,” that in a bovine brain the concept of nonexistence is blissfully absent. “If we fail to find suffering in the animal lives we can see,” Dennett writes in “Kinds of Minds,” “we can rest assured there is no invisible suffering somewhere in their brains. If we find suffering, we will recognize it without difficulty.” Which brings us–reluctantly, necessarily–to the American factory farm, the place where all such distinctions turn to dust. It’s not easy to draw lines between pain and suffering in a modern egg or confinement hog operation. These are places where the subtleties of moral philosophy and animal cognition mean less than nothing, where everything we’ve learned about animals at least since Darwin has been simply . . . set aside. To visit a modern CAFO (Confined Animal Feeding Operation) is to enter a world that, for all its technological sophistication, is still designed according to Cartesian principles: animals are machines incapable of feeling pain. Since no thinking person can possibly believe this any more, industrial animal agriculture depends on a suspension of disbelief on the part of the people who operate it and a willingness to avert your eyes on the part of everyone else. From everything I’ve read, egg and hog operations are the worst. Beef cattle in America at least still live outdoors, albeit standing ankle deep in their own waste eating a diet that makes them sick. And broiler chickens, although they do get their beaks snipped off with a hot knife to keep them from cannibalizing one another under the stress of their confinement, at least don’t spend their eight-week lives in cages too small to ever stretch a wing. That fate is reserved for the American laying hen, who passes her brief span piled together with a half-dozen other hens in a wire cage whose floor a single page of this magazine could carpet. Every natural instinct of this animal is thwarted, leading to a range of behavioral “vices” that can include cannibalizing her cagemates and rubbing her body against the wire mesh until it is featherless and bleeding. Pain? Suffering? Madness? The operative suspension of disbelief depends on more neutral descriptors, like “vices” and “stress.” Whatever you want to call what’s going on in those cages, the 10 percent or so of hens that can’t bear it and simply die is built into the cost of production. And when the output of the others begins to ebb, the hens will be “force-molted”–starved of food and water and light for several days in order to stimulate a final bout of egg laying before their life’s work is done. Simply reciting these facts, most of which are drawn from poultry-trade magazines, makes me sound like one of those animal people, doesn’t it? I don’t mean to, but this is what can happen when . . . you look. It certainly wasn’t my intention to ruin anyone’s breakfast. But now that I probably have spoiled the eggs, I do want to say one thing about the bacon, mention a single practice (by no means the worst) in modern hog production that points to the compound madness of an impeccable industrial logic. Piglets in confinement operations are weaned from their mothers 10 days after birth (compared with 13 weeks in nature) because they gain weight faster on their hormone- and antibiotic-fortified feed. This premature weaning leaves the pigs with a lifelong craving to suck and chew, a desire they gratify in confinement by biting the tail of the animal in front of them. A normal pig would fight off his molester, but a demoralized pig has stopped caring. “Learned helplessness” is the psychological term, and it’s not uncommon in confinement operations, where tens of thousands of hogs spend their entire lives ignorant of sunshine or earth or straw, crowded together beneath a metal roof upon metal slats suspended over a manure pit. So it’s not surprising that an animal as sensitive and intelligent as a pig would get depressed, and a depressed pig will allow his tail to be chewed on to the point of infection. Sick pigs, being underperforming “production units,” are clubbed to death on the spot. The U.S.D.A.’s recommended solution to the problem is called “tail docking.” Using a pair of pliers (and no anesthetic), most but not all of the tail is snipped off. Why the little stump? Because the whole point of the exercise is not to remove the object of tail-biting so much as to render it more sensitive. Now, a bite on the tail is so painful that even the most demoralized pig will mount a struggle to avoid it. Much of this description is drawn from “Dominion,” Matthew Scully’s recent book in which he offers a harrowing description of a North Carolina hog operation. Scully, a Christian conservative, has no patience for lefty rights talk, arguing instead that while God did give man “dominion” over animals (“Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you”), he also admonished us to show them mercy. “We are called to treat them with kindness, not because they have rights or power or some claim to equality but . . . because they stand unequal and powerless before us.” Scully calls the contemporary factory farm “our own worst nightmare” and, to his credit, doesn’t shrink from naming the root cause of this evil: unfettered capitalism. (Perhaps this explains why he resigned from the Bush administration just before his book’s publication.) A tension has always existed between the capitalist imperative to maximize efficiency and the moral imperatives of religion or community, which have historically served as a counterweight to the moral blindness of the market. This is one of “the cultural contradictions of capitalism”–the tendency of the economic impulse to erode the moral underpinnings of society. Mercy toward animals is one such casualty. More than any other institution, the American industrial animal farm offers a nightmarish glimpse of what capitalism can look like in the absence of moral or regulatory constraint. Here in these places life itself is redefined–as protein production–and with it suffering. That venerable word becomes “stress,” an economic problem in search of a cost-effective solution, like tail-docking or beak-clipping or, in the industry’s latest plan, by simply engineering the “stress gene” out of pigs and chickens. “Our own worst nightmare” such a place may well be; it is also real life for the billions of animals unlucky enough to have been born beneath these grim steel roofs, into the brief, pitiless life of a “production unit” in the days before the suffering gene was found. Vegetarianism doesn’t seem an unreasonable response to such an evil. Who would want to be made complicit in the agony of these animals by eating them? You want to throw something against the walls of those infernal sheds, whether it’s the Bible, a new constitutional right or a whole platoon of animal rightists bent on breaking in and liberating the inmates. In the shadow of these factory farms, Coetzee’s notion of a “stupefying crime” doesn’t seem far-fetched at all. But before you swear off meat entirely, let me describe a very different sort of animal farm. It is typical of nothing, and yet its very existence puts the whole moral question of animal agriculture in a different light. Polyface Farm occupies 550 acres of rolling grassland and forest in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. Here, Joel Salatin and his family raise six different food animals–cattle, pigs, chickens, rabbits, turkeys and sheep–in an intricate dance of symbiosis designed to allow each species, in Salatin’s words, “to fully express its physiological distinctiveness.” What this means in practice is that Salatin’s chickens live like chickens; his cows, like cows; pigs, pigs. As in nature, where birds tend to follow herbivores, once Salatin’s cows have finished grazing a pasture, he moves them out and tows in his “eggmobile,” a portable chicken coop that houses several hundred laying hens–roughly the natural size of a flock. The hens fan out over the pasture, eating the short grass and picking insect larvae out of the cowpats–all the while spreading the cow manure and eliminating the farm’s parasite problem. A diet of grubs and grass makes for exceptionally tasty eggs and contented chickens, and their nitrogenous manure feeds the pasture. A few weeks later, the chickens move out, and the sheep come in, dining on the lush new growth, as well as on the weed species (nettles, nightshade) that the cattle and chickens won’t touch. Meanwhile, the pigs are in the barn turning the compost. All winter long, while the cattle were indoors, Salatin layered their manure with straw, wood chips–and corn. By March, this steaming compost layer cake stands three feet high, and the pigs, whose powerful snouts can sniff out and retrieve the fermented corn at the bottom, get to spend a few happy weeks rooting through the pile, aerating it as they work. All you can see of these pigs, intently nosing out the tasty alcoholic morsels, are their upturned pink hams and corkscrew tails churning the air. The finished compost will go to feed the grass; the grass, the cattle; the cattle, the chickens; and eventually all of these animals will feed us. I thought a lot about vegetarianism and animal rights during the day I spent on Joel Salatin’s extraordinary farm. So much of what I’d read, so much of what I’d accepted, looked very different from here. To many animal rightists, even Polyface Farm is a death camp. But to look at these animals is to see this for the sentimental conceit it is. In the same way that we can probably recognize animal suffering when we see it, animal happiness is unmistakable, too, and here I was seeing it in abundance. For any animal, happiness seems to consist in the opportunity to express its creaturely character–its essential pigness or wolfness or chickenness. Aristotle speaks of each creature’s “characteristic form of life.” For domesticated species, the good life, if we can call it that, cannot be achieved apart from humans–apart from our farms and, therefore, our meat eating. This, it seems to me, is where animal rightists betray a profound ignorance about the workings of nature. To think of domestication as a form of enslavement or even exploitation is to misconstrue the whole relationship, to project a human idea of power onto what is, in fact, an instance of mutualism between species. Domestication is an evolutionary, rather than a political, development. It is certainly not a regime humans imposed on animals some 10,000 years ago. Rather, domestication happened when a small handful of especially opportunistic species discovered through Darwinian trial and error that they were more likely to survive and prosper in an alliance with humans than on their own. Humans provided the animals with food and protection, in exchange for which the animals provided the humans their milk and eggs and–yes–their flesh. Both parties were transformed by the relationship: animals grew tame and lost their ability to fend for themselves (evolution tends to edit out unneeded traits), and the humans gave up their hunter-gatherer ways for the settled life of agriculturists. (Humans changed biologically, too, evolving such new traits as a tolerance for lactose as adults.) From the animals’ point of view, the bargain with humanity has been a great success, at least until our own time. Cows, pigs, dogs, cats and chickens have thrived, while their wild ancestors have languished. (There are 10,000 wolves in North America, 50,000,000 dogs.) Nor does their loss of autonomy seem to trouble these creatures. It is wrong, the rightists say, to treat animals as “means” rather than “ends,” yet the happiness of a working animal like the dog consists precisely in serving as a “means.” Liberation is the last thing such a creature wants. To say of one of Joel Salatin’s caged chickens that “the life of freedom is to be preferred” betrays an ignorance about chicken preferences–which on this farm are heavily focused on not getting their heads bitten off by weasels. But haven’t these chickens simply traded one predator for another–weasels for humans? True enough, and for the chickens this is probably not a bad deal. For brief as it is, the life expectancy of a farm animal would be considerably briefer in the world beyond the pasture fence or chicken coop. A sheep farmer told me that a bear will eat a lactating ewe alive, starting with her udders. “As a rule,” he explained, “animals don’t get ‘good deaths’ surrounded by their loved ones.” The very existence of predation–animals eating animals–is the cause of much anguished hand-wringing in animal rights circles. “It must be admitted,” Singer writes, “that the existence of carnivorous animals does pose one problem for the ethics of Animal Liberation, and that is whether we should do anything about it.” Some animal rightists train their dogs and cats to become vegetarians. (Note: cats will require nutritional supplements to stay healthy.) Matthew Scully calls predation “the intrinsic evil in nature’s design . . . among the hardest of all things to fathom.” Really? A deep Puritan streak pervades animal rights activists, an abiding discomfort not only with our animality, but with the animals’ animality too. However it may appear to us, predation is not a matter of morality or politics; it, also, is a matter of symbiosis. Hard as the wolf may be on the deer he eats, the herd depends on him for its well-being; without predators to cull the herd, deer overrun their habitat and starve. In many places, human hunters have taken over the predator’s ecological role. Chickens also depend for their continued well-being on their human predators–not individual chickens, but chickens as a species. The surest way to achieve the extinction of the chicken would be to grant chickens a “right to life.” Yet here’s the rub: the animal rightist is not concerned with species, only individuals. Tom Regan, author of “The Case for Animal Rights,” bluntly asserts that because “species are not individuals . . . the rights view does not recognize the moral rights of species to anything, including survival.” Singer concurs, insisting that only sentient individuals have interests. But surely a species can have interests–in its survival, say–just as a nation or community or a corporation can. The animal rights movement’s exclusive concern with individual animals makes perfect sense given its roots in a culture of liberal individualism, but does it make any sense in nature? Consider this hypothetical scenario: In 1611 Juan da Goma (aka Juan the Disoriented) made accidental landfall on Wrightson Island, a six-square-mile rock in the Indian Ocean. The island’s sole distinction is as the only known home of the Arcania tree and the bird that nests in it, the Wrightson giant sea sparrow. Da Goma and his crew stayed a week, much of that time spent in a failed bid to recapture the ship’s escaped goat — who happened to be pregnant. Nearly four centuries later, Wrightson Island is home to 380 goats that have consumed virtually every scrap of vegetation in their reach. The youngest Arcania tree on the island is more than 300 years old, and only 52 sea sparrows remain. In the animal rights view, any one of those goats have at least as much right to life as the last Wrightson sparrow on earth, and the trees, because they are not sentient, warrant no moral consideration whatsoever. (In the mid-80’s a British environmental group set out to shoot the goats, but was forced to cancel the expedition after the Mammal Liberation Front bombed its offices.) The story of Wrightson Island (recounted by the biologist David Ehrenfeld in “Beginning Again”) suggests at the very least that a human morality based on individual rights makes for an awkward fit when applied to the natural world. This should come as no surprise: morality is an artifact of human culture, devised to help us negotiate social relations. It’s very good for that. But just as we recognize that nature doesn’t provide an adequate guide for human social conduct, isn’t it anthropocentric to assume that our moral system offers an adequate guide for nature? We may require a different set of ethics to guide our dealings with the natural world, one as well suited to the particular needs of plants and animals and habitats (where sentience counts for little) as rights suit us humans today. To contemplate such questions from the vantage of a farm is to appreciate just how parochial and urban an ideology animals rights really is. It could thrive only in a world where people have lost contact with the natural world, where animals no longer pose a threat to us and human mastery of nature seems absolute. “In our normal life,” Singer writes, “there is no serious clash of interests between human and nonhuman animals.” Such a statement assumes a decidedly urbanized “normal life,” one that certainly no farmer would recognize. The farmer would point out that even vegans have a “serious clash of interests” with other animals. The grain that the vegan eats is harvested with a combine that shreds field mice, while the farmer’s tractor crushes woodchucks in their burrows, and his pesticides drop songbirds from the sky. Steve Davis, an animal scientist at Oregon State University, has estimated that if America were to adopt a strictly vegetarian diet, the total number of animals killed every year would actually increase, as animal pasture gave way to row crops. Davis contends that if our goal is to kill as few animals as possible, then people should eat the largest possible animal that can live on the least intensively cultivated land: grass-fed beef for everybody. It would appear that killing animals is unavoidable no matter what we choose to eat. When I talked to Joel Salatin about the vegetarian utopia, he pointed out that it would also condemn him and his neighbors to importing their food from distant places, since the Shenandoah Valley receives too little rainfall to grow many row crops. Much the same would hold true where I live, in New England. We get plenty of rain, but the hilliness of the land has dictated an agriculture based on animals since the time of the Pilgrims. The world is full of places where the best, if not the only, way to obtain food from the land is by grazing animals on it–especially ruminants, which alone can transform grass into protein and whose presence can actually improve the health of the land. The vegetarian utopia would make us even more dependent than we already are on an industrialized national food chain. That food chain would in turn be even more dependent than it already is on fossil fuels and chemical fertilizer, since food would need to travel farther and manure would be in short supply. Indeed, it is doubtful that you can build a more sustainable agriculture without animals to cycle nutrients and support local food production. If our concern is for the health of nature–rather than, say, the internal consistency of our moral code or the condition of our souls–then eating animals may sometimes be the most ethical thing to do. There is, too, the fact that we humans have been eating animals as long as we have lived on this earth. Humans may not need to eat meat in order to survive, yet doing so is part of our evolutionary heritage, reflected in the design of our teeth and the structure of our digestion. Eating meat helped make us what we are, in a social and biological sense. Under the pressure of the hunt, the human brain grew in size and complexity, and around the fire where the meat was cooked, human culture first flourished. Granting rights to animals may lift us up from the brutal world of predation, but it will entail the sacrifice of part of our identity–our own animality. Surely this is one of the odder paradoxes of animal rights doctrine. It asks us to recognize all that we share with animals and then demands that we act toward them in a most unanimalistic way. Whether or not this is a good idea, we should at least acknowledge that our desire to eat meat is not a trivial matter, no mere “gastronomic preference.” We might as well call sex–also now technically unnecessary–a mere “recreational preference.” Whatever else it is, our meat eating is something very deep indeed. Are any of these good enough reasons to eat animals? I’m mindful of Ben Franklin’s definition of the reasonable creature as one who can come up with reasons for whatever he wants to do. So I decided I would track down Peter Singer and ask him what he thought. In an e-mail message, I described Polyface and asked him about the implications for his position of the Good Farm–one where animals got to live according to their nature and to all appearances did not suffer. “I agree with you that it is better for these animals to have lived and died than not to have lived at all,” Singer wrote back. Since the utilitarian is concerned exclusively with the sum of happiness and suffering and the slaughter of an animal that doesn’t comprehend that death need not involve suffering, the Good Farm adds to the total of animal happiness, provided you replace the slaughtered animal with a new one. However, he added, this line of thinking doesn’t obviate the wrongness of killing an animal that “has a sense of its own existence over time and can have preferences for its own future.” In other words, it’s O.K. to eat the chicken, but he’s not so sure about the pig. Yet, he wrote, “I would not be sufficiently confident of my arguments to condemn someone who purchased meat from one of these farms.” Singer went on to express serious doubts that such farms could be practical on a large scale, since the pressures of the marketplace will lead their owners to cut costs and corners at the expense of the animals. He suggested, too, that killing animals is not conducive to treating them with respect. Also, since humanely raised food will be more expensive, only the well-to-do can afford morally defensible animal protein. These are important considerations, but they don’t alter my essential point: what’s wrong with animal agriculture–with eating animals–is the practice, not the principle. What this suggests to me is that people who care should be working not for animal rights but animal welfare–to ensure that farm animals don’t suffer and that their deaths are swift and painless. In fact, the decent-life-merciful-death line is how Jeremy Bentham justified his own meat eating. Yes, the philosophical father of animal rights was himself a carnivore. In a passage rather less frequently quoted by animal rightists, Bentham defended eating animals on the grounds that “we are the better for it, and they are never the worse. . . . The death they suffer in our hands commonly is, and always may be, a speedier and, by that means, a less painful one than that which would await them in the inevitable course of nature.” My guess is that Bentham never looked too closely at what happens in a slaughterhouse, but the argument suggests that, in theory at least, a utilitarian can justify the killing of humanely treated animals–for meat or, presumably, for clothing. (Though leather and fur pose distinct moral problems. Leather is a byproduct of raising domestic animals for food, which can be done humanely. However, furs are usually made from wild animals that die brutal deaths–usually in leg-hold traps–and since most fur species aren’t domesticated, raising them on farms isn’t necessarily more humane.) But whether the issue is food or fur or hunting, what should concern us is the suffering, not the killing. All of which I was feeling pretty good about–until I remembered that utilitarians can also justify killing retarded orphans. Killing just isn’t the problem for them that it is for other people, including me. During my visit to Polyface Farm, I asked Salatin where his animals were slaughtered. He does the chickens and rabbits right on the farm, and would do the cattle, pigs and sheep there too if only the U.S.D.A. would let him. Salatin showed me the open-air abattoir he built behind the farmhouse–a sort of outdoor kitchen on a concrete slab, with stainless-steel sinks, scalding tanks, a feather-plucking machine and metal cones to hold the birds upside down while they’re being bled. Processing chickens is not a pleasant job, but Salatin insists on doing it himself because he’s convinced he can do it more humanely and cleanly than any processing plant. He slaughters every other Saturday through the summer. Anyone’s welcome to watch. I asked Salatin how he could bring himself to kill a chicken. “People have a soul; animals don’t,” he said. “It’s a bedrock belief of mine.” Salatin is a devout Christian. “Unlike us, animals are not created in God’s image, so when they die, they just die.” The notion that only in modern times have people grown uneasy about killing animals is a flattering conceit. Taking a life is momentous, and people have been working to justify the slaughter of animals for thousands of years. Religion and especially ritual has played a crucial part in helping us reckon the moral costs. Native Americans and other hunter-gathers would give thanks to their prey for giving up its life so the eater might live (sort of like saying grace). Many cultures have offered sacrificial animals to the gods, perhaps as a way to convince themselves that it was the gods’ desires that demanded the slaughter, not their own. In ancient Greece, the priests responsible for the slaughter (priests!–now we entrust the job to minimum-wage workers) would sprinkle holy water on the sacrificial animal’s brow. The beast would promptly shake its head, and this was taken as a sign of assent. Slaughter doesn’t necessarily preclude respect. For all these people, it was the ceremony that allowed them to look, then to eat. Apart from a few surviving religious practices, we no longer have any rituals governing the slaughter or eating of animals, which perhaps helps to explain why we find ourselves where we do, feeling that our only choice is to either look away or give up meat. Frank Perdue is happy to serve the first customer; Peter Singer, the second. Until my visit to Polyface Farm, I had assumed these were the only two options. But on Salatin’s farm, the eye contact between people and animals whose loss John Berger mourned is still a fact of life–and of death, for neither the lives nor the deaths of these animals have been secreted behind steel walls. “Food with a face,” Salatin likes to call what he’s selling, a slogan that probably scares off some customers. People see very different things when they look into the eyes of a pig or a chicken or a steer–a being without a soul, a “subject of a life” entitled to rights, a link in a food chain, a vessel for pain and pleasure, a tasty lunch. But figuring out what we do think, and what we can eat, might begin with the looking. We certainly won’t philosophize our way to an answer. Salatin told me the story of a man who showed up at the farm one Saturday morning. When Salatin noticed a PETA bumper sticker on the man’s car, he figured he was in for it. But the man had a different agenda. He explained that after 16 years as a vegetarian, he had decided that the only way he could ever eat meat again was if he killed the animal himself. He had come to look. “Ten minutes later we were in the processing shed with a chicken,” Salatin recalled. “He slit the bird’s throat and watched it die. He saw that the animal did not look at him accusingly, didn’t do a Disney double take. The animal had been treated with respect when it was alive, and he saw that it could also have a respectful death–that it wasn’t being treated as a pile of protoplasm.” Salatin’s open-air abattoir is a morally powerful idea. Someone slaughtering a chicken in a place where he can be watched is apt to do it scrupulously, with consideration for the animal as well as for the eater. This is going to sound quixotic, but maybe all we need to do to redeem industrial animal agriculture in this country is to pass a law requiring that the steel and concrete walls of the CAFO’s and slaughterhouses be replaced with . . . glass. If there’s any new “right” we need to establish, maybe it’s this one: the right to look. No doubt the sight of some of these places would turn many people into vegetarians. Many others would look elsewhere for their meat, to farmers like Salatin. There are more of them than I would have imagined. Despite the relentless consolidation of the American meat industry, there has been a revival of small farms where animals still live their “characteristic form of life.” I’m thinking of the ranches where cattle still spend their lives on grass, the poultry farms where chickens still go outside and the hog farms where pigs live as they did 50 years ago–in contact with the sun, the earth and the gaze of a farmer. For my own part, I’ve discovered that if you’re willing to make the effort, it’s entirely possible to limit the meat you eat to nonindustrial animals. I’m tempted to think that we need a new dietary category, to go with the vegan and lactovegetarian and piscatorian. I don’t have a catchy name for it yet (humanocarnivore?), but this is the only sort of meat eating I feel comfortable with these days. I’ve become the sort of shopper who looks for labels indicating that his meat and eggs have been humanely grown (the American Humane Association’s new “Free Farmed” label seems to be catching on), who visits the farms where his chicken and pork come from and who asks kinky-sounding questions about touring slaughterhouses. I’ve actually found a couple of small processing plants willing to let a customer onto the kill floor, including one, in Cannon Falls, Minn., with a glass abattoir. The industrialization–and dehumanization–of American animal farming is a relatively new, evitable and local phenomenon: no other country raises and slaughters its food animals quite as intensively or as brutally as we do. Were the walls of our meat industry to become transparent, literally or even figuratively, we would not long continue to do it this way. Tail-docking and sow crates and beak-clipping would disappear overnight, and the days of slaughtering 400 head of cattle an hour would come to an end. For who could stand the sight? Yes, meat would get more expensive. We’d probably eat less of it, too, but maybe when we did eat animals, we’d eat them with the consciousness, ceremony and respect they deserve.  

      I think that Pollan did an amazing job in this piece here. He showed signs of reading with the grain while alos arguing against the animal topic by preaching his own beleifs.

    2. Native Americans and other hunter-gathers would give thanks to their prey for giving up its life so the eater might live (sort of like saying grace). Many cultures have offered sacrificial animals to the gods, perhaps as a way to convince themselves that it was the gods’ desires that demanded the slaughter, not their own. In ancient Greece, the priests responsible for the slaughter (priests!–now we entrust the job to minimum-wage workers) would sprinkle holy water on the sacrificial animal’s brow. The beast would promptly shake its head, and this was taken as a sign of assent. Slaughter doesn’t necessarily preclude respect. For all these people, it was the ceremony that allowed them to look, then to eat.

      This whole argument just proves that we as humans hunted thousands and thousands of years ago and it was part of rituals, diets, and ESPECIALLY how we grew up eating. Now why would you want to take that away from our food chain- it's been in our system for years

    1. This is valid javascript! Or harmony or es6 or whatever, but importantly, it's not happening outside the js environment. This also allows us to use our standard tooling: the traceur compiler knows how to turn jsx`<div>Hello</div>`; into the equivalent browser compatible es3, and hence we can use anything the traceur compile accepts!
    1. In the past century, the Atlantic has risen more than a foot along the coast near here and could rise an additional 5 feet by 2100

      Considering the massive amount of flooding that already occurs with just an extra foot over a one hundred year time period, I can't even begin to imagine the disasters that would come along with an additional five feet by the next century. It's scary to think that within my lifetime the water will rise to a height that's taller than me.

    1. This was an interesting story to read, though the lack of emotions being portrayed in it was a bit jarring at first. It feels like it's like someone's journal entry or something similar rather than an actual story with a serious plot. Honestly, the entire thing caught me off guard. The dad character's obsession with the pole was a little jarring as well, considering he changed how it looked for practically every season and holiday and even made it look like death when his wife dies. It's a very strange thing to be obsessed with, so maybe the pole meant something more to the dad? The ending of the story where the kid just sold the house and the new owners just tossed the pole was even more jarring, however. It's like the kid didn't really care about their father since they basically just tossed the pole, and that makes me wonder if they hated their dad because of how frugal/controlling he was. Overall, it was an interesting read!

    2. I think it's interesting that this story is in a collection of stories called "Tenth of December." At first, one might think of the exciting time when Christmas is nearing and the overall holiday season is already upon them. However, the negative tone of this short story makes me think that the tenth of December is more a sign that we are getting closer to the dead of winter. Personally, I'm one of those people that is rather ill-tempered all winter because the cold and short few hours of sunlight just really affects my mood. "Tenth of December" may then rather suggest a bleak, cold connotation.

    1. You cant mix no dialects at work; how would peeps who aint from yo hood understand you?” They say, “You just gotta use standard Eng-lish.” Yet, even folks with good jobs in the corporate world dont follow no standard English.

      I feel like it's hard to stick with just speaking standard english because we have multiple tongues that we are so used to using.Speaking standard english only is just not who we are.

    1. I have a journey, sir, shortly to go;My master calls me, I must not say no.

      I love these short lines. If i've come to appreciate anything in this class, it's the language used. I love this play, and this ending because what's written is just the surface of what's meant. So we're here in the end of the play, Lear is dead, and Kent is talking about a journey, and masters, and needing to go. This can mean so much, like a literal master, and a real journey needing to be done, but I think it can also be a journey of life, and Death being the master one can't refuse, Lear just died, dramatically, and here it's this game of dominance between life and death, and who makes those decisions. I think this speaks a lot that it doesn't matter who you were alive, Death has the final say.

    1. "We are one of the worst states in the country for animal protection," says Humane Society of Utah's Advocacy Director Rachel Heatley, who hopes to implement inter-agency reporting for both human and animal cases in the future. "It's really difficult to enforce anti-cruelty provisions when it takes 30 minutes to get to a call for an animal control agent, we have very few agents and a large amount of space for them to cover."

      This is from an interview with Rachel Heatley, who is the Humane Society of Utah's Advocacy Director. She is working to implement inter-agency reporting for both human and animal cases in the future. She says in her interview that it is really difficult to enforce any anti-cruelty provisions when it takes so long to get a call from an animal control agent. She explains how there isn't many agents and it is just too little for the amount of space they have to cover. I think that by talking about how little animal control agents there are as well as the amount of time it takes to be able to get anything done, shows just how much work we have to do in order to get something done.

    1. OLD MAN: Drink your.tea, Semiramis. [-Of course.there is no tea.]

      I think that it's easy to lose this line in the scheme of the more obvious hidden elements of this play (because of how it seems to be the Old Man simply dismissing his wife), but I think that every line in this play is very intentional, so it's important to consider that the "tea" the Old Man is referencing is invisible to the audience. As an audience member, I think that initially this line just strikes you as odd and unsettling, since there obviously isn't any tea, or something that would be reminiscent of tea, onstage. It also gives the impression that there is something off or different about the way that normal behaviors or activities, such as that of drinking tea or having guests over, take shape in the world of this play. Deeper than that though, I think the invisibility of the tea here grows more complex considering the interaction it stems from and the fact that the Old Man repeats I believe twice more for the Old Woman to drink said invisible tea. This order and it's inability to be fulfilled (or perhaps the Old Woman's unwillingness to fulfill it) points to the greater dynamic and relationship between the couple and almost divides them; which is interesting to consider in terms of how other invisibilities in the play quite literally separate and drive the couple apart. I also thought that the naming of the Old Woman, on the part of the Old Man, as Semiramis while the Old Man went unnamed was also interesting and a further kind of invisibility as the name has some hidden context which isn't directly revealed to us or referenced during the work.

    1. social and ecological consequences they had for indigenous peoples and the american bison that lived on the lands that the railroads colonized with the help of the federal governmen

      Throughout the video I have been thinking about the effect of this railroad expansion on indigenous tribes and lands and how careless the government acted during this period. As these railroads expanded into the west, they would encounter indigenous land and forced them to relocate or murdered them just to place railroad tracks. Moreover, it's not surprising when the video lecture talked about how the federal government would freely "grant" these lands to railroad companies and glorify the westward expansion. In other words, Americans paint this expansion as a new age and a "Manifest Destiny" when in reality they justified the stealing of other people's land by "exploring" the west.

    1. He has held up a mirror to American society, and it has reflected back a grotesque image that many people had until now refused to see: an image not just of the racism still coursing through the country, but also of the reflex to deny that reality.

      Trump is the embodiment of America. He has always been racist, except now he doesn't have to hide it because it's tolerated and accepted.

    1. They remind us just how long it’s been clear there’s something wrong with what we’re doing as well as just how little progress we’ve made in acting on that realization.

      I love seeing this laid out, I really do feel like there is another, better way that we have just not explored

    1. Therefore, for my principal example of a discourse community, I have deliberately chosen one that is not academic, but which nevertheless is probably typical enough of many others.

      I assumed that a discourse community was mostly just academics so seeing that he chooses a non-academic group and further on in the paragraph, the reader sees its a hobby group, it's a very interesting fact to know.

    2. This specialization may involve using lexical items known to the wider speech communities in special and technical ways,

      It's crazy that a group can just come up with and use specific languages that some understand and some don't. But I guess it's the same with teenagers and their slang words that older people can't understand.

    1. Countries that permit medically assisted dying respond to the first question in significantly different ways. While discussion has been tak-ing place for years in the Netherlands over whether to legalize euthanasia for those who are tired of life—suggest-ing a rather low threshold for what falls into the domain of sufficiently hopeless—in the United States, ev-ery state that has legalized medically assisted dying to date requires that natural death is foreseeable within the next six months.58 This suggests that there is little agreement on the appro-priate amount of hopelessness to re-quire before permitting one medical assistance in dying.

      Every Country that responds to these questions, have different cultures, which hold different values, and moralities. Among these values and moralities is justification of ADs. It's funny how other countries are very hesitant to proceed with the practice, while the US is just like, 'sure, okay, why not. Your choice, who am I to stop you going out on your own terms if you are already almost there?' The US reached a balance that I am thoroughly satisfied with.

    2. Do these differences in hope justify differential treatment of psychologi-cal suffering and physical suffering in requests for medical assistance in dying? Two important questions are embedded in this one: How much is enough hopelessness to justify an individual’s request for a medically assisted death?57 And whose hope should provide justification for either the approval or denial of such a re-quest?

      For a lot of people they do. But nothing is ever that simple. For the first part of the second question, I'd have to answer once again that it's relative. As we're all individuals with different experience there is no fair baseline for how hopeless one has to feel to justify wanting to die. As for the second part, no ones. Don't go placing yourself above others, don't assume you know what is best for others. We're all imperfect and that is okay. One doesn't have the right to decide for others just because of what they find to be morally acceptable to them.

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    1. However, that he assumes the best political ideological model that captures professors and students is "Right" versus "Left" is unwise. Despite media shorthand, American politics is poorly reduced to just two opposing stances. It isn't just that there might be a third, some "Middle," but that there are more (for instance, "libertarian" variants that are not well captured as either Right or Left or Middle, and such folks are easily found in university and college faculties).

      This is a problem I faced in my own research, but unfortunately everyone uses that terminology. The terminology isn't accurate, but because no one uses a more nuanced description it's all we've got.

    1. Slowing down to check whether content is true before sharing it is far less compelling than reinforcing to your “audience” on these platforms that you love or hate a certain policy.

      Some people might just be impatient and try to get to the point as quick as possible without even digging deeper to see if it's true or not.

    1. Server Rules & Info Here are some general guidelines and rules for our humble little server! Breaking these rules will result in a warning, kick, or ban from an admin/moderator depending on the level of severity. (1) This should be an unsaid rule, but: treat each other with RESPECT. There's enough disrespect and toxicity in the League community, let's keep that out of this server or there shall be dire consequences. • No threats or harassment towards members. • No offensive profile pictures or names. You know the ones. • It's all fun and games, but there will be no jokes at the expense of others: No offensive jokes of a discriminatory/sexist/racist nature. (2) Keep content in their appropriate channels: • NSFW content (e.g. the jokes we don't want our employers to see...) is strictly limited to the NSFW channel. • By all means, share music and use the array of Groovy Bot commands! Just make sure that you're doing that in the text and voice channels. • The #spam channel is for spamming memes and shitposting; go crazy, as long as you keep the crazy contained within the channel. (3) No content of an extreme graphic nature is permitted within the server (e.g. gore). (4) No excessive advertising! There's enough of that everywhere else we look. (5) Do not @everyone without reason unless you want an angry mob at your door. No seriously, don't do it. (6) No other bots. If you have questions about anything or have a concern regarding the server, please feel free to reach out to an admin! This server is pretty relaxed, all we ask is that you keep things civil , exercise common sense, and have a good time chatting with other Ahri lovers!

      Many Discord servers have separate channels for rules, unless they're small/private groups that don't require much regulation.

      The rules are listed, and bullet-points are used to delve into specific information underneath them.

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    1. but where is your Renaissance? Sir, it is locked in them sea-sands out there past the reef’s moiling shelf, where the men-o’-war floated down; strop on these goggles, I’ll guide you there myself.

      I believe that Walcott's metaphor that compares the sea to history is an incredibly good comparison. As I am not too familiar with biblical references and stories it was a bit hard to follow at times. As one of my peers has written, the sea is vast, hard to explore and we may never fully explore it in the history of our race. There are many aspects of history long forgotten or never recorded. However, it is all there. I believe that when Walcott asks this question, he is asking not just his brethren, but all people, where is your rebirth. Where does History stop for those before you and start for you. As the child of immigrants, it's an incredibly relatable thought. Who am I, and what does my heritage mean to me? Who do I ask, and how do I decide? Walcott states "strop on these goggles, I'll guide you there myself." I find this idea to be incredibly interesting. Not everyone has a guide to help them find themselves. Some people must explore and find it on their own. I did not expect to like this poem as much as I do.

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    1. The teachers were struck by the voracity of students’ claims and howthe game, particularly the roles, enabled them to argue positions—some-thing they reported that students do infrequently.

      I think the reason this is infrequent is because in most standard learning situations, it's just about having the right answers to questions. It matters what you know, rather than what you think

    2. 2580 Teachers College RecordStudent 1: When I was a wildlife ecologist I learned a lot about whatthey actually do instead of “you’re a wildlife ecologist.” Ididn’t know until I played it.Student 2: Before we did the game, I had no clue what a waterchemist was, and when I played the game, I kind a foundout what they do. It’s a pretty interesting job. I had thejob, and I was really doing what they do. It was kind ofinteresting.Student 3:Same thing with the wildlife ecologist. I thought thatthey played with animals.

      These students' responses show that learning through application is what actually makes the information not just stay with them, but also makes it valuable

    1. An inversion may hold the air mass over a city in place for some days. When that happens, as it did in New York City in November 1965, pollutants may ac-cumulate to the point of an emergency

      I did not know what an inversion was before reading this, it's. very interesting just how many different weather emergencies there are.

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    1. High bandwidth first, scale second. Clarity is capacity, not consumption. We’re very likely to need tech for the scaling dimension of the process to happen in time and autopoietically. We’ll need tech that feed us back the capacity-building we outsourced to its capacity. We’ve failed with all tech. Facebook is high sample size, high diversity, low bandwidth. We need to experiment, fail and iterate at embodying the transformations we'll have to masterfully unfold at scale on time. We need the experience (and some of the affect) of failing ourselves, of selling out.I can imagine low bandwidth, low-fidelity VR where the thing in your ear is actually allowing you to train your body into more manoeuvrability or more intuition in real time in sync with others or with difficult real-life situations you are training on. At early stages of the person’s development the VR can provide the immersive conflict (see good conflicts, good challenges); this makes it low-stakes, heightening intensity. At later stages the person sees just the real world but interfaces procedurally with an ability to tune sharp or tune flat their reactions. In such a way that if they take the device off the change stays. The device is only needed to tune, not to maintain. Like psychedelics, it should tap into that person’s personal connections, memories and existing neural circuitries via chemicals (how does it access and assess the circuitries? via the chemicals?) Also like psychedelics or sex, once you finish the exercise, some phantom memory of the motion should remain as a counterpoint to your other selves. Remember: alcohol is why you learned you have different selves. The trick is we don’t admit scale or technology until it actually helps us become antifragile. Work with Jordan Hall on online-offline communities and network theories; include Jamie Wheal.Part of it is you don’t grow to fast: you take on too much scale, take on failure, and metabolize the learning. always trial by fire, always water nearby. Jamie Wheal: if failure doesn’t come, how will i know when i’m scaling too fast? It needs to run away from itself when it would run away with itself.We need to communicate these experiments between each other. What do we practice for communication across differentiation? The complicated and complex correct themselves by revealing each other. The design of collaboration should shape concentric cell walls that require the group to conform its design to systematically more resolved (OODA) in order to pass through. Technology design that makes a scaled person more anti-fragile and more complex through the relationship. You want most things available through practice and only things you constrained by precedent and inertia delegated to design. And design should be subtle and changeable. At some point, the point is to connect the transition to the localized context. The context is the fuel you need to burn off, to reveal. What’s the context right now in Waterloo, for people my age… they don’t know how to tackle the problems directly.  First reveal then learn to show yourself. The accident is preparation and intent to be practiced skillfully. Then excorporating to the scale of others with timing and skill.How do I get these groups (https://www.microsolidarity.cc/crewing) synergizing their findings?Case clinic (https://www.presencing.org/resource/tools/case-clinic-desc)It has a practical output (helping someone with a challenge they're currently facing), and it tends to produce a lot of insight and interpersonal bonding. It's an excellent place to start, you can get a long way in one meeting.Metagame mastermindIt tends to produce a lot of insight and interpersonal bonding. It's an excellent place to start, you can get a long way in one meetingThe Scuttlebutt and Faerie Rings:o  Documentation currently focuses on how to do matchmaking to form crews within a congregation. Faerie Rings are mostly "get to know you" spaces for people who are participating in a big distributed project, but don't have many opportunities to connect face to face.The Consciousness and Wisdom Studies Lab

      Move to Unity / Transition Pathway?

    2. High bandwidth first, scale second. Clarity is capacity, not consumption. We’re very likely to need tech for the scaling dimension of the process to happen in time and autopoietically. We’ll need tech that feed us back the capacity-building we outsourced to its capacity. We’ve failed with all tech. Facebook is high sample size, high diversity, low bandwidth. We need to experiment, fail and iterate at embodying the transformations we'll have to masterfully unfold at scale on time. We need the experience (and some of the affect) of failing ourselves, of selling out.I can imagine low bandwidth, low-fidelity VR where the thing in your ear is actually allowing you to train your body into more manoeuvrability or more intuition in real time in sync with others or with difficult real-life situations you are training on. At early stages of the person’s development the VR can provide the immersive conflict (see good conflicts, good challenges); this makes it low-stakes, heightening intensity. At later stages the person sees just the real world but interfaces procedurally with an ability to tune sharp or tune flat their reactions. In such a way that if they take the device off the change stays. The device is only needed to tune, not to maintain. Like psychedelics, it should tap into that person’s personal connections, memories and existing neural circuitries via chemicals (how does it access and assess the circuitries? via the chemicals?) Also like psychedelics or sex, once you finish the exercise, some phantom memory of the motion should remain as a counterpoint to your other selves. Remember: alcohol is why you learned you have different selves. The trick is we don’t admit scale or technology until it actually helps us become antifragile. Work with Jordan Hall on online-offline communities and network theories; include Jamie Wheal.Part of it is you don’t grow to fast: you take on too much scale, take on failure, and metabolize the learning. always trial by fire, always water nearby. Jamie Wheal: if failure doesn’t come, how will i know when i’m scaling too fast? It needs to run away from itself when it would run away with itself.We need to communicate these experiments between each other. What do we practice for communication across differentiation? The complicated and complex correct themselves by revealing each other. The design of collaboration should shape concentric cell walls that require the group to conform its design to systematically more resolved (OODA) in order to pass through. Technology design that makes a scaled person more anti-fragile and more complex through the relationship. You want most things available through practice and only things you constrained by precedent and inertia delegated to design. And design should be subtle and changeable. At some point, the point is to connect the transition to the localized context. The context is the fuel you need to burn off, to reveal. What’s the context right now in Waterloo, for people my age… they don’t know how to tackle the problems directly.  First reveal then learn to show yourself. The accident is preparation and intent to be practiced skillfully. Then excorporating to the scale of others with timing and skill.How do I get these groups (https://www.microsolidarity.cc/crewing) synergizing their findings?Case clinic (https://www.presencing.org/resource/tools/case-clinic-desc)It has a practical output (helping someone with a challenge they're currently facing), and it tends to produce a lot of insight and interpersonal bonding. It's an excellent place to start, you can get a long way in one meeting.Metagame mastermindIt tends to produce a lot of insight and interpersonal bonding. It's an excellent place to start, you can get a long way in one meetingThe Scuttlebutt and Faerie Rings:o  Documentation currently focuses on how to do matchmaking to form crews within a congregation. Faerie Rings are mostly "get to know you" spaces for people who are participating in a big distributed project, but don't have many opportunities to connect face to face.The Consciousness and Wisdom Studies Lab

      Move into Scaling.

    1. Hey, my buddy .Null and I decided to make a quick lofi loop. Nothing crazy, just a couple of friends trying to make some music over discord while keeping that social distancing and staying safe.. The image and voice clip are both from FL CL, it's a pretty cool anime with some killer music. Also, so I don't get in shit for stealing the image I found it off a random print site on Google images. Not mine, I just edited our names on to it so we can look cooler lol. Did it work? Anyways, all the best and thanks for listening :)

      Youtube videos all include a description, usually these contain contextual information pertaining to the video. In my video I included: the artists who created the music, what was sampled, and the origin of the image. |There was also a sign off thanking viewers for their time.

    1. The one on the right I treated like cut flowers. It’s a living organism, cut the slice off, stuck it in a vase of water, it was all right for another two weeks after this.

      I like this because a big part of food waste i'm sure is just not knowing how to store the food properly so that it can last longer and not go to waste.

    2. a way of confronting large businesses in the business of wasting food, and exposing, most importantly, to the public, that when we’re talking about food being thrown away, we’re not talking about rotten stuff, we’re not talking about stuff that’s beyond the pale. We’re talking about good, fresh food that is being wasted on a colossal scale.

      This is interesting, when you think of food waste you might think of scraps of food that can't be eaten. According to the speaker, not only can this food waste be eaten instead of thrown away, it's causing a massive scale of perfectly good that people are just tossing out. I wonder why all this food is just getting tossed.

    1. How do the numbers get misrepresented? There are often suggestions that going vegan is the most important step people can take to solve the global warming problem.  While reducing meat consumption (particularly beef and lamb) reduces greenhouse gas emissions, this claim is an exaggeration. An oft-used comparison is that globally, animal agriculture is responsible for a larger proportion of human-caused greenhouse gas emissions (14-18%) than transportation (13.5%).  While this is true, transportation is just one of the many sources of human fossil fuel combustion.  Electricity and heat generation account for about 25% of global human greenhouse gas emissions alone. Moreover, in developed countries where the 'veganism will solve the problem' argument is most frequently made, animal agriculture is responsible for an even smaller share of the global warming problem than fossil fuels.  For example, in the USA, fossil fuels are responsible for over 10 times more human-caused greenhouse gas emissions than animal agriculture. That's not to minimize the significant global warming impact of animal agriculture (as well as its other adverse environmental impacts), especially from beef and lamb, but it's also important not to exaggerate its contribution or minimize the much larger contribution of fossil fuels. Last upda

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    1. Meanwhile, politicians from the two major political parties have been hammering these companies, albeit for completely different reasons. Some have been complaining about how these platforms have potentially allowed for foreign interference in our elections.3 3. A Conversation with Mark Warner: Russia, Facebook and the Trump Campaign, Radio IQ|WVTF Music (Apr. 6, 2018), https://www.wvtf.org/post/conversation-mark-warner-russia-facebook-and-trump-campaign#stream/0 (statement of Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.): “I first called out Facebook and some of the social media platforms in December of 2016. For the first six months, the companies just kind of blew off these allegations, but these proved to be true; that Russia used their social media platforms with fake accounts to spread false information, they paid for political advertising on their platforms. Facebook says those tactics are no longer allowed—that they've kicked this firm off their site, but I think they've got a lot of explaining to do.”). Others have complained about how they’ve been used to spread disinformation and propaganda.4 4. Nicholas Confessore & Matthew Rosenberg, Facebook Fallout Ruptures Democrats’ Longtime Alliance with Silicon Valley, N.Y. Times (Nov. 17, 2018), https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/17/technology/facebook-democrats-congress.html (referencing statement by Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.): “Mr. Tester, the departing chief of the Senate Democrats’ campaign arm, looked at social media companies like Facebook and saw propaganda platforms that could cost his party the 2018 elections, according to two congressional aides. If Russian agents mounted a disinformation campaign like the one that had just helped elect Mr. Trump, he told Mr. Schumer, ‘we will lose every seat.’”). Some have charged that the platforms are just too powerful.5 5. Julia Carrie Wong, #Breaking Up Big Tech: Elizabeth Warren Says Facebook Just Proved Her Point, The Guardian (Mar. 11, 2019), https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/11/elizabeth-warren-facebook-ads-break-up-big-tech (statement of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.)) (“Curious why I think FB has too much power? Let's start with their ability to shut down a debate over whether FB has too much power. Thanks for restoring my posts. But I want a social media marketplace that isn't dominated by a single censor. #BreakUpBigTech.”). Others have called attention to inappropriate account and content takedowns,6 6. Jessica Guynn, Ted Cruz Threatens to Regulate Facebook, Google and Twitter Over Charges of Anti-Conservative Bias, USA Today (Apr. 10, 2019), https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/04/10/ted-cruz-threatens-regulate-facebook-twitter-over-alleged-bias/3423095002/ (statement of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.)) (“What makes the threat of political censorship so problematic is the lack of transparency, the invisibility, the ability for a handful of giant tech companies to decide if a particular speaker is disfavored.”). while some have argued that the attempts to moderate discriminate against certain political viewpoints.

      Most of these problems can all fall under the subheading of the problems that result when social media platforms algorithmically push or accelerate content on their platforms. An individual with an extreme view can publish a piece of vile or disruptive content and because it's inflammatory the silos promote it which provides even more eyeballs and the acceleration becomes a positive feedback loop. As a result the social silo benefits from engagement for advertising purposes, but the community and the commons are irreparably harmed.

      If this one piece were removed, then the commons would be much healthier, fringe ideas and abuse that are abhorrent to most would be removed, and the broader democratic views of the "masses" (good or bad) would prevail. Without the algorithmic push of fringe ideas, that sort of content would be marginalized in the same way we want our inane content like this morning's coffee or today's lunch marginalized.

      To analogize it, we've provided social media machine guns to the most vile and fringe members of our society and the social platforms are helping them drag the rest of us down.

      If all ideas and content were provided the same linear, non-promotion we would all be much better off, and we wouldn't have the need for as much human curation.

    2. It would allow end users to determine their own tolerances for different types of speech but make it much easier for most people to avoid the most problematic speech, without silencing anyone entirely or having the platforms themselves make the decisions about who is allowed to speak.

      But platforms are making huge decisions about who is allowed to speak. While they're generally allowing everyone to have a voice, they're also very subtly privileging many voices over others. While they're providing space for even the least among us to have a voice, they're making far too many of the worst and most powerful among us logarithmic-ally louder.

      It's not broadly obvious, but their algorithms are plainly handing massive megaphones to people who society broadly thinks shouldn't have a voice at all. These megaphones come in the algorithmic amplification of fringe ideas which accelerate them into the broader public discourse toward the aim of these platforms getting more engagement and therefore more eyeballs for their advertising and surveillance capitalism ends.

      The issue we ought to be looking at is the dynamic range between people and the messages they're able to send through social platforms.

      We could also analogize this to the voting situation in the United States. When we disadvantage the poor, disabled, differently abled, or marginalized people from voting while simultaneously giving the uber-rich outsized influence because of what they're able to buy, we're imposing the same sorts of problems. Social media is just able to do this at an even larger scale and magnify the effects to make their harms more obvious.

      If I follow 5,000 people on social media and one of them is a racist-policy-supporting, white nationalist president, those messages will get drowned out because I can only consume so much content. But when the algorithm consistently pushes that content to the top of my feed and attention, it is only going to accelerate it and create more harm. If I get a linear presentation of the content, then I'd have to actively search that content out for it to cause me that sort of harm.

    1. That is to say: if the problem has not been the centralized, corporatized control of the individual voice, the individual’s data, but rather a deeper failure of sociality that precedes that control, then merely reclaiming ownership of our voices and our data isn’t enough. If the goal is creating more authentic, more productive forms of online sociality, we need to rethink our platforms, the ways they function, and our relationships to them from the ground up. It’s not just a matter of functionality, or privacy controls, or even of business models. It’s a matter of governance.