reply to zk developer at https://reddit.com/r/Zettelkasten/comments/1qiwfp0/im_researching_why_zettelkasten_fails_for_a_lot/

Before you do this sort of user research, have you done the research on the dozens and dozens of apps that are already out there (prior art)? What do you think is good about them? Bad? Why are some doing well and others not?

You realize that at once a week since 2019, at least one app a week pops up in the zettelkasten, note taking, productivity/GTD space? Very, very few pass the 6 week mark, let alone the 6 month mark. Why do you want to reinvent the wheel? What are you hoping to get out of it?

Are you self-dogfooding/eating your own cooking? If you're not using and enjoying your own app, why would others?

Simply reading through this sub will give you most of the research and friction points you could want to know about without impinging on our time for something that I'd be willing to bet won't even reach alpha.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onyx_Boox/comments/1q42cxn/update_on_the_reading_app_i_always_wanted_recall/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecco_Pro<br /> Ecco Pro

https://github.com/lumen-notes/lumen

https://app.inq.live/

You just need an APK file to install it on Android, no need for a developer account as such (only for Playstore distribution).

Android Studio is the official IDE for Android app dev. There is a MacOS version.

#openvraag is this usable to code up a personal app for mobile?

History suggests this is the likely path. Most people will accept the phone, ipads and computers as they are. Like IndieWeb there is a population of people going against that current, but not a tide. Unless e.g. interoperability reqs from DSA, DMA force the issue. Sideloading is actually installing.

Linkbook — A Notebook that Thinks in Links<br /> by [[Michael Herrick]]<br /> accessed on 2025-12-14T14:37:24

Found via u/michael_matterform at https://www.reddit.com/r/commonplacebook/comments/1pjbwvc/comment/ntcdt91/

u/michael_matterform IS Michael Herrick<br /> See evidence in his video at https://youtu.be/VwPtRNXwX7E?si=d9MUQ_4DTareFUmM&t=79

• Companies aggressively push app downloads, especially in places like Taiwan, offering discounts but often installing without full consent, leading to spam and unwanted data collection.
• Avoid handing over your phone to staff and never download apps, as they provide minimal benefits compared to the risks involved.
• Primary risks include surveillance capitalism: apps enable extensive data tracking for targeted ads and "surveillance pricing," where prices vary based on inferred financial status (e.g., charging more after payday).
• This undermines fair pricing, giving corporations power over individual costs beyond market forces.
• Apps enforce binding arbitration clauses in Terms of Service, waiving rights to court, jury trials, or oversight; examples include Disney attempting to force arbitration in a wrongful death case linked to a Disney+ trial.
• Predictions highlight future abuses, like arbitration forced via unrelated services (e.g., Uber Eats leading to self-driving car disputes).
• Recommendation: Use websites or PWAs instead to preserve privacy and rights.

Hacker News Discussion

• Users debate apps vs. websites/PWAs: many praise PWAs (e.g., Mastodon, Photoprism) for performance when implemented well, criticizing poor web apps and noting apps often wrap webviews with extra tracking.
• Privacy concerns dominate: native apps access more device data (contacts, SMS, biometrics, etc.) even with permissions, unlike sandboxed PWAs; tools like NetGuard suggested for blocking app internet access.
• Loyalty discounts viewed as modern coupons by some, saving money despite data sharing, but others warn of surveillance pricing via purchase patterns and arbitration risks.
• Experiences shared: retailers reject Apple Pay to force accounts; global pushiness for apps noted; arbitrage limits price discrimination viability.
• Calls for better OS controls, open-source apps without tracking, and skepticism of app store security.

How to make the best possible translation of a book? | Derek Sivers<br /> by [[Derek Sivers]]<br /> accessed on 2025-10-15T19:19:44

https://www.marginnote.com/<br /> Note taking application with audio recording

Amazon is shutting down its Android app store next weekl<br /> by [[Nickolas Diaz]] for Android Central<br /> accessed on 2025-08-18T18:57:29

Tom Hanks' love of typewriters by [[CBS Sunday Morning]] by Lee Cowan

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BaseballNotation.com<br /> Free baseball scorecard app

found via https://www.reddit.com/r/BaseballScorecards/comments/1jjb6mj/new_york_yankees_at_new_york_mets_32425/ and created by u/machinedlens

for - adjacency - attention economy - NOT people-centered - competing apps - status quo internet - JOIN ME

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I wish this appended the URL of the excerpt to the note.

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Reply Cards https://reply.cards/

By Adam Newbold

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bellerophon/id1508038196

Peerdraft

Collaboration for Obsidian – Sync, Share, and Edit anywhere

https://notebooklm.google/

https://writingmonth.org/ Writing Month

A writing tracking project started in 2024 as a replacement for NaNoWriMo infrastructure

Example: Terence Eden https://writingmonth.org/~edent/

https://omnivore.app

https://storm.genie.stanford.edu/

STORM Get a Wikipedia-like report on your topic<br /> STORM is a research prototype for automating the knowledge curation process.

https://www.literatureandlatte.com/scapple/overview

https://pinokio.computer/<br /> Pinokio is a browser that lets you install, run, and programmatically control ANY application, automatically.

https://flux1.ai/<br /> Flux AI Image Generator

https://glif.app/glifs

https://www.edvo.com/

Beta app for note taking/productivity.

The Computational Democracy Project

We bring data science to deliberative democracy, so that governance may better reflect the multidimensionality of the public's will.

https://moshi.chat/

Moshi is an experimental conversational AI.

SillyTavern<br /> https://sillytavernai.com/

https://once.com/writebook

Writebook<br /> Instantly publish your own books on the web for free, no publisher required.

ᔥ[[Evan Hildreth]] in Downloaded 37Signals’ Writebook at 2024-07-04 (accessed:: 2024-07-04 08:29 AM)

Downloaded 37Signals’ Writebook because free. I might try to run it locally as a Scrivener replacement, but I’m bristling at the thought of running a full Rails app on the server for what should be static files.

https://coda.io/blog/about-coda/introducing-coda-brain

Nebo is a Mac app for handwritten notes. Its OCR claims to do English plus one of 66 other languages both. First time I've seen that. Q remains: does it do so simultaneously in a single note, or as selected per note? My e-ink device allows a range of languages but not at the same time, I need to switch the setting, and applies one language to one note. This clashes with the fact that multilingual users will use multiple languages inside their notes at the same time. n:: [[Multilingual is not multiple monolingual 20191019072010]] obv https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2019/10/adding-better-language-support-ii/

Much of the available resources have been written in English and then back-translated, which is a problem; I need to find a way to ensure that's not a problem when doing my master's. I will need linguistic experts in each language. Where do I find these unicorns?

I need to make contact and ask how it's going because I don't know if the study has been ended and if the subsequent studies have been published. Ask Bianca.

This is an app for multilingual language learning. Mine will focus on the mother tongue.

I tried it out for a bit and found the audio very repetitive, which could be problematic. Minecraft had such good audio - C14 or C11? It is fantastically immersive, and the popularity of the game and audio is irrefutable if you look at longevity (games come and go often, and very few manage to stick and have a continuous impact, Minecraft is a good example of an exception to this, alongside other well adjusted and designed games.

I had fun learning the clicks in isiXhoso - something I want to practice, but the audio became too much as i hit the image repeatedly.

There's room for more resources. This application does not speak to all children, and no one application ever will, hence the need for many across a broad range of cultures and diversities.

Two links are broken here - Reviews and Help and Support and that makes me so suspicious because those are such important links. Also the free stuff is a headache to download I am so tired of creating accounts just do download a free image and I hate giving out my data.

I think there is plenty of room for applications that cater for different tastes and cultures and this wouldn't speak to me as a kid and it might not speak to other kids. My research shows we need a lot more resources, there is a lot of room for more applications

Just an observation here but I remember my godchild using You tube kids whilst they stayed here and we had to double check because it wasn't all good content, you tube is kind of notorious with their bad content checks and algorithms. Elsa Gate Scandal comes to mind.

Is this the tablet Bianca mentioned? It sounds great but an entire tablet? I want to reach consumers on already owned devices. Edit no it's the one who expanded - they just launched english lit en are still launching afrikaans this year.

Variety is the spice of life. I don't think there is room for only one application, personally I wouldn't have enjoyed those graphics as a child, not all children like the same things and learn the same way, so to address that we would need many different applications carering to different tastes.

This is what Ziggy uses in Australia I think - must check with his parents.

I loved Toca Boca as well. That was the first example found that I felt was worth it. Use that as my main influence in the proposal if I have not already done so. Was a crazy week.

Human-centered design aims to prioritize the needs of their target audience, in this instance that is children under the age of 10.

ShareOpenly https://shareopenly.org/<br /> built by Ben Werdmuller

There's so much research! I think I might be getting lost in the sea... Where is North?

Most reviews don't seem positive and this is not a free app an dthey have a lot of complaints about the quality

• Go look at Endless Reader

zapier alternative to integrate apps

Monday.com

in select what you'd like to focus on has: - academic research - resource management - task management - curriculum & syllabus management** - portfolio management - project management

Zenkit Suite

• Zenkit ToDo (interested in)

also has: Zen Hypernotes (knowledge, notes & Wiki)* interesting ZenProjects zenForms (forms & surveys) ZenChat Base (all-in-one collaboration platform)

https://subethaedit.net/

Similar to hackmd and etherpad... perhaps related to them genealogically?

https://pi.ai/talk

clasp-env available on NPM https://www.npmjs.com/package/clasp-env. clasp-env is a command-line utility that allows you to switch between various Google Apps Script environments.

https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-use-camera-lucida-app-for-drawing/

• for: quote, quote - Jason Hong, quote - health apps, health care app, idea spread through social network, mental health app, physical health app, transform app
• quote
• paraphrase
  • Health care is an area that will likely see many innovations. -There are already multiple research prototypes underway looking at monitoring of one’s
    • physical and
    • mental health.
  • Some of my colleagues (and myself as well) are also looking at
    • social behaviors, and how those behaviors
      • not only impact one’s health but also
      • how innovations spread through one’s social network.

https://thepalaceproject.org/

Mentioned by Dan Cohen

https://teuxdeux.com/

https://xtiles.app/en

https://linkingmanifesto.org/

Manifesto for Ubiquitous Linking

Some interesting early signers here... Brett Terpstra, Frode Alexander Hegland, Mark Bernstein (Tinderbox)...

https://mangolanguages.com/

Mango Languages

https://eveharms.itch.io/stimuwrite<br /> StimuWrite by Eve Harms

Make writing as addictive as social media

<small><cite class='h-cite via'>ᔥ <span class='p-author h-card'>Kieryn Darkwater :vtrain:</span> in "omg so I remembered seeing a #writing app for #ADHD a long time ago that is actually stimulating instead of a massive white space, and I found it again today. I thought I'd try it out and I've been able to get 1600 words done with less pain than starting at a blank google doc. The hearts and stuff as I type is all the serotonins I need for this. It's worth paying for.https://eveharms.itch.io/stimuwrite " - towns.gay on Jan 11, 2023, 04:12 (<time class='dt-published'>01/24/2023 12:35:14</time>)</cite></small>

https://wildrye.com/roundup-of-67-tools-for-thought-to-build-your-second-brain/

List of tools for thought apps

https://clay.earth/

https://mochi.cards

<small><cite class='h-cite via'>ᔥ <span class='p-author h-card'>Fernando Borretti</span> in Unbundling Tools for Thought (<time class='dt-published'>12/29/2022 15:59:17</time>)</cite></small>

https://tellico-project.org/

Tellico<br /> Collection management software, free and simple

<small><cite class='h-cite via'>ᔥ <span class='p-author h-card'>Fernando Borretti</span> in Unbundling Tools for Thought (<time class='dt-published'>12/29/2022 15:59:17</time>)</cite></small>

While I will not download this app -- points for creativity.

https://www.methexis.ai/join-the-collaboration

https://github.com/shaunabanana/snowball

https://github.com/shaunabanana/intrigue

https://listfollowers.com/

https://scrivanolabs.github.io/

https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/16/bending-spoons-acquires-evernote-marking-the-end-of-an-era/

https://9to5google.com/2022/11/03/best-mastodon-apps-download-android/

https://pinafore.social/

Pinafore is a web client for Mastodon, designed for speed and simplicity.

<small><cite class='h-cite via'>ᔥ <span class='p-author h-card'>Jessica Smith</span> in Small Web - Jayeless.net (<time class='dt-published'>07/03/2021 23:34:42</time>)</cite></small>

https://www.indxd.ink/

A digital, web-based index tool for your analog notebooks. Ostensibly allows one to digitally index their paper notebooks (page numbers optional).

It emails you weekly text updates, so you've got a back up of your data if the site/service disappears.

This could potentially be used by those who have analog zettelkasten practices, but want the digital search and some back up of their system.

<small><cite class='h-cite via'>ᔥ <span class='p-author h-card'>sgtstretch </span> in @Gaby @pimoore so a good friend of mine makes [INDXD](https://www.indxd.ink/) which is for indexing analog notebooks and being able to find things. I don't personally use it, but I know @patrickrhone has written about it before. (<time class='dt-published'>10/27/2022 17:59:32</time>)</cite></small>

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cardnotes-zettelkasten-notes/id1611515089

Someone looking for handwriting apps that allow one to use handwriting in digital contexts.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Zettelkasten/comments/ydwl32/handwriting_zettelkasten/

https://app.sane.fyi/space/ida-ida-josefiina-75044

https://glasp.co/

Glasp is a recent entrant to the social web highlighting and note taking space.

https://mleddy.blogspot.com/2005/05/tools-for-serious-readers.html

Interesting (now discontinued) reading list product from Levenger that in previous generations may have been covered by a commonplace book but was quickly replaced by digital social products (bookmark applications or things like Goodreads.com or LibraryThing.com).

Presently I keep a lot of this sort of data digitally myself using either/both: Calibre or Zotero.

This part of the article is extremly pertinent to todays world. With social media being a core aspect of many individuals personalities, socializing and attention in the real world has been affected. Apps like Tiktok with short videos have made many individuals attention span extremely short. Often affecting their time spent on work and other activities. Seeing the long term affects on human attention due to social media apps will be interesting to watch.

https://myhub.ai/

https://www.shiply.com/us

https://badge.design/

This looks like the sort of tool that @cogdog or the DS106 crowd would appreciate.

<small><cite class='h-cite via'>ᔥ <span class='p-author h-card'>gRegor Love</span> in David Shanske was awarded the First Time Eating an Ear of Corn at Homebrew Website Club badge on May 18, 2022. Context: pretty self-explanatory. :) When David said it was the first time he had eaten an ear of corn at Homebrew Website Club, I said I would make the badge for him. I used https://badge.design/ to throw this together. — gRegorLove.com (<time class='dt-published'>05/23/2022 00:38:31</time>)</cite></small>

https://wordpress.org/plugins/slippy/

This WordPress plugin looks like it's a solid custom post type for creating a digital zettelkasten. Looks like it relies on tags/categories for linking, though has a custom link function. This in combination with Webmention could be a useful bi-directional link set up.

https://heptabase.com/

A visual note-taking tool for learning complex topics. (YC W22)

Create a list of tools that feature [[wikilink]] functionality.

• WikiMedia
• TiddlyWiki
• other wikis...
• Roam Research
• Obsidian
• other note taking apps...
• Trello
• Notion
• Airtable
• GitHub

https://www.connectedpapers.com/

See also: - Research Rabbit - Open Knowledge Maps